A judge set a preliminary hearing for accused Colorado movie theater gunman James Holmes for next Monday, The Denver Post reported Wednesday, the most crucial court hearing that the Aurora mass shooting suspect has faced yet.
The hearing, which is to begin at 9 a.m., is expected to last the entire week, the newspaper reported. Hundreds of people, including victims, their family members, and members of the public are expected to come.
Prosecutors and defense lawyers in the Colorado theater shooting headed back to court after State District Judge William B. Sylvester told both sides to appear before him to ensure everything is ready for next week's preliminary hearing, when prosecutors will outline their case against Holmes.
At the conclusion of the preliminary hearing, Sylvester will decide if the evidence is sufficient to put Holmes on trial.

AP
This undated photo provided Sept. 20, 2012 by the Arapahoe County Sheriff's Office shows Colorado movie-theater shooting suspect James Holmes.
Holmes is charged with killing 12 people and wounding 58 on July 20 in a movie theater in the Denver suburb of Aurora. Prosecutors say he opened fire during a midnight showing of the Batman movie "The Dark Night Rises."
The preliminary hearing will give the public its first officially sanctioned look at much of the evidence against Holmes.
According to The Denver Post, there will be at least two overflow rooms with audio and video feeds for the hundreds of people expected to attend.
Holmes faces multiple counts of first-degree murder and attempted murder and hasn't yet entered a plea. His lawyers have said he suffers from mental illness.
Sylvester imposed a gag order shortly after Holmes' arrest barring attorneys and investigators from speaking publicly about the case, and many documents have been sealed.
The University of Colorado, where Holmes was a graduate student, has also been tight-lipped about the case.
At prosecutors' request, Sylvester barred the university from releasing records requested by numerous media organizations. Prosecutors argued that the information could jeopardize Holmes' right to a fair trial. Sylvester initially agreed, but amended his order last month to allow the release after media organizations objected in court.
Holmes was enrolled in a Ph.D. neuroscience program at the university. He allegedly began stockpiling firearms and ammunition while taking classes in the spring.
In June, he made threats to a professor and on June 10 filed withdrawal papers after failing a year-end exam, prosecutors said. The next day he saw his school psychiatrist who tried to report him to a campus security committee, according to Holmes' lawyers.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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why all the Hoopla ? Judicial circus for gawkers ?
He should be shot sane or otherwise.
Hopefully he gets the help he needs and can get back into the world at some point as a productive member of society. He is obviously dealing with some issues and should have another chance.
Hang him and get it over with already !!!
@ VIV
People like that will never be able to rejoin society. At best they will spend their lives in a mental institution .
Vivian -
Good thing I wasn't sipping coffee, I would have spit it all over my monitor!
That's about all your comment, and opinion, are good for.
If you want to open your wallet to cover his care, go ahead and donate. If you want to open your home and rent a room to him, go right ahead.
What's that? You won't?
Vivian....are you stupid? He should have another chance? Well, it obviously wasn't YOUR family he shot and killed. It wasn't YOUR daughter or son or small child that he SHOT COLD HEARTEDLY. So why don't you just button your lip with such stupidity. Psychos such as him have NO PLACE in society. As far as I'm concerned, who cares about the moral implications of it when they are such a social liability....they should be placed in front of the firing squad.
I'm thinking Vivian was joking. If not, then she should be in a mental institution.
sorry Vivian... I just clicked the "no value" marker for the very first time. You think love can correct this problem? Love in this case is to simply and effectively remove the problem and the problem is this crazy guy Holmes. Do you beat a massochist because he enjoys pain? Do you let people hurt others so they can adjust to normal? Do you kill someone because they do that to others and should expect the same? In this case it doesn't really matter because the price is life for life and that is historically correct.
Thats terrible Amanda! And it was my family that was shot, my family is everyone sharing the same journey on this wonderful planet Earth. He was just as much a victim as everyone else.
Crazy, Sane, Stupid, WHATEVER! Just take this thing out! The sooner the better! Sheesh!
Wow, no regards for human life. And if you have a problem, then take it to Congress jerkoff.
Vivian, you sound like James Holmes' mother, grandmother, or aunt.....which is it?? Only those type people will defend their kids....out of 'motherly instinct'......yeah right...
You're argument won't fly in these skies...
It's terrible that you defend such a terrible happening. You say nothing about the victims families but insist on defending the murderer. you are a freak of nature. And they weren't your family. You are obviously just as psychotic as Holmes. You should be his bunk buddy.
You've got to be kidding. Please tell me these bleeding hearts aren't stupid enough to hope this P.O.S. gets out. He needs, and I do mean NEEDS, a nice shiny new bullet between the eyes and that's it. This is half, no 75% of the problem in this country. Quit it with the PC crap and bleeding hearts. Fix these problems before they become bigger problems. WHat a joke. Vivian, it's folks like you that no longer have a place here either.
Oooh crap sorry everyone I thought this was the ferris wheel on staten island article
How about Guilty or otherwise? does that figure into your rationale? Is he psychotic or did someone give him a dose of scpolamine?
I find it very disconcerting that most of these posters want death, immediately. No reasons, no proof, no compassion. Lets just make sure this guy gets the blame and lets kill the m****f****r NOW, so we can get back to the basketball or the Man v Food channel, then we'll be happy and feel better about it.
Please tell me that you are joking Vivian. Please tell me that you really don't think this jackwagon needs a second chance. "A victim" you say??? Are you freekin' kidding me? What planet are you from? NO IT ISN'T your damn family you idiot. It wasn't your sister, daughter, mother or brother....if it were, you would think differently. Go climb back in your VW Vanagon and go back to your fantasy world.
(David N.'s wife here.) @ Vivian #1.7: Terrible? Time you had a wake-up call Miss Vivian. Statiscally 25% of adult Americans have or will experience a Mental Health issue in their life time, but few will ever, ever, ever turn to cold-blooded murder. Take your head out of the sand and accept that those who are like Mr. Holmes are beyond clinical care or law-abiding repair and are just pure evil. IMO, in a case like his the compassionate thing to do for him, would be to extinguish him and put him out of his misery.
Red Sailor...how much proof do you need man? He walked in and SHOT people...killed them. And you need more proof? wow....smh.
Agreed, stop wasting time and money, and get rid of him. Something is definitely wrong with society when we keep people like this alive.
You guys are the SAME ones who wanted Casey Anthony's blood! And she turned out to be completley innocent! But not before you people ruined that poor grief striken mothers life.
Wait, we haven't ended this turds life yet? Are we not sure he's guilty?
A cop on the scene should have just shot him in the head that very day in the parking lot!
If he isn't a waste of air I don't know what is!
Vivian...shut up TROLL.
No kidding. Guess we need a DNA sample. I understand his point as far as everyone, ME INCLUDED, wanting death. But heck yes, in this case, no question, sure, fair trial and then kill him if it makes you feel better. As long as he's dead by the end of 13, who cares.
WHere did he get the training to rig such an elaborate bombs in his apartment?
False Flag
Black PsyOp's
Witness's state multiple shooters multiple smoke grenades coming form opposite directions.
Short memories.
This is all leading up to a gun grab and civil war
They staged the Gulf of Tonkin they will stage things like this to get what they want.
The AMERICAN UNARMED SHEEPLE.
What year is that volkswagon, Vivian? Is it the highly sought after split window, or are you cheating with an automatic vanagon? It's a shame he didn't do himself
Sheepled....time for your meds sweetie.
If you do the research you will find that almost 100% of these mass murders are done by people who have seen a psychiatrist/have taken psych meds. Those are the real killers of these innocent people - the "crazy" murderers are the tools being used. Psychiatry KILLS - the mental health treatment is a cruel and deadly joke. Look it up - in their own words the psychs admit that they can't cure anyone. Check the warning labels on the drugs. Side effects include homicidal/suicidal thoughts.
We won't be safe until we eradicate psychiatry off the face of the earth. They are the true face of evil and anyone in their clutches is doomed along with the people around them. There is a solution - and it is not hard to find. Do a search for help with mental issues but stay away from all psychiatric websites. Honestly, does anyone really believe there is a "math disorder"? It's in the psych "bible" along with all the other made-up disorders including one of the biggest hoaxes of all - ADD/ADHD. This disorder came about when Ritalin was created. Hmmm... we have this nifty new drug that we could make billions on so what can we make up to treat with it? How about little children - mostly boys - who want to act like little children instead of docile robots??? Yeah, we can sell millions of pills to those people. Suicide?? Who cares as long as we are getting RICH!!!!
Umm, becasue Casey Anthony killed her baby cold heartedly....there was enough proof for that as well. Vvian---go away. You are one of the ones who DEFEND the EVIL in this world. Vivian=Beelzebub
Casey Anthony is a wonderful person who doesnt deserve the evil you spread Amanda.
After reading all these posts, I believe most Americans have lost all their humanity...just like what happened at that holding prison...remember when the American GI's were torturing the prisoners?....how did this guy who was so mentally ill get the gun? He sought help, but none was given...if he had been bleeding from his head he would have got medical attention....but not in this country....mental illness is still tabu...and all of you who choose to condemn, I think you are mentally ill too...
According to his lawyers Mr. Holmes is insane; yeah, until he gets an insanity verdict during trial and then gets sent to mental hospital for a few years, and then it'll be just like the man who shot Reagan. I think he's getting unsupervised visits with his parents now, having been deemed a threat no more. I suppose just as soon as he gets access to another gun, and goes after some other celeb. he'll continue to be considered CURED. Mr. Holmes should get the same sentence he administered to those in the theater, DEATH by firing squad within 24 hours of being found guilty.
What Drugs was he prescribed and by who and if they knew about suicidal and homicidal thoughts caused from those drugs.
yes
Then hang the pharm executives for profiting off of dangerous drugs to the public.
Hey teach. Humanity is for the ones who still want a semi normal life, a good life in this country. I feel for them and would try to help all I could. Those who try to ruin that, can fry in a pool of gas in the middle of the street for all I care. We can't help everyone. We haven't the time or money to do so. If you want to live somewhere and help all that, you go ahead and go broke doing it too. I'll stay where it is safe and we have them behind bars or the dirt. Enough is enough. Screw em. If they don't fit in society, they need to go.
VIV
I would not bet the farm on Casey Anthony being innocent . The more you look at her case the more you suspect that she was in it up to her eye balls. Remember she was a party girl, liked the boys, booze and drugs. She is not what her lawyer made her out to be. The rest of her family were no great shakes either.
@ Vivian. If I were at juror at Casey Anthony's trial I would've said GUILTY. I blame the incompetent prosecutors. They didn't do a good job at all. And as for this shooter, letting him back into the world? Let him go shoot up more people? Mental illness was a big factor I'm sure but there are millions of people who have a mental illness and don't shoot up people because they are good. This guy was evil. I have an idea. Since no sane person would take him home about you let him stay with you! Sounds like a perfect plan since this guy sounds so nice! tell me how that works out for you.
I'm just going to throw this out there- Vivian is a troll.
Ignore her, so she slinks back into the abyss she came out of.
Amazon should seriously consider a service where they home deliver pitchforks and torches.
Sog-
Just checked, Amazon sells both pitchforks AND torches (albeit not the ideal torches you're looking for).
& UPS will deliver them to your home.
;)
He was drugged. Look at MKULTRA.
This guy was majoring in psychiatric disorders, if anyone can successfully fake it, he can. If they find him incompetent, he will do a few years in a hospital, make a remarkable "recovery" and then proceed to publish papers and an autobiography on how he screwed the legal system.
I agree with Vivian (in a way) I think he is as "innocent" as that skank in Florida!! (yes, that was sarcasm)
Good work, NBC News. You successfully confused “night” with “knight” in the fifth paragraph.
Allegedly.
Mind control; seeing quite a bit of random craziness lately. Read up on Scopolamine; it's been around a while. The CIA used in back in the 40's. It turns people into Zombies; go ahead and laugh. Then do the research! There's no knowing what synthetic drugs the Military Industrial Complex has come up with since then. Do you think someone suddenly says to themselves, "I'm going to go out and kill a bunch of innocent people then give myself up or maybe I'll shoot myself in the head"
Watch the new Bourne Movie; that's put out their for their plausible deniability cop out, just like the Philadelphia Experiment.
For the sceptics............
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra
Thanks Sheepled; you see more than most.
I dont care if it was mind control, voodoo or witch craft...who cares, doesnt change the fact that he killed people. So give it a break. And yes, I do believe there are wicked people who dont care and would just say "f" it and shoot innocent people. it's a little naive to think all people are good isnt it?
And I've read about MKUltra ya reject. If youre so worried about conspiracies you wouldnt be posting all about it on a site that I'm sure the governemtn looks at, since they want to know our every move their conspiracy theory. Did you see the smoke stacks too?
The death penalty has been around for many years and these tradgedies still happen. How would the death penalty work as a deterrent to future incidents. Most times attackers either want to die or don't care if they survive as long as they get their point across.
The only hearing we need to know about is the one concerning assault weapons and high-capacity ammo clips.
You know the one I mean, where owning these items becomes a felony.
And NO, there is NOT anything in the Constitution that gives anyone a right to own these things. You would know that if you read it. The word "assault" does not appear anywhere in it.
The right to bear arms means firearms. Is an assault weapon a firearm?
Thanks DB2. So where are you being held prisoner? Be very careful the guards do not catch you sneaking in the office while using the innertube machine. Let us know your location and a few of us freedom fighters will assault the fortress and liberate you! Pssst---mums the word!
P Prisoner pull your butt cheeks together words are falling out again.
Stop being sarcastic a-holes. It really does nothing for your defense/pov. It wouldnt matter if it were an automatic weapon or not....they all kill when someone who is sadistic, psychotic, sociopathic, etc is using it. We dont need a crack down on weapons, we need a crack down on behaviors. I bet he was exhibiting this type of behavior before but no body paid any attention to it/informed the police about it. No one ever wants to be the "tattle tale" so people like him end up going ape sh!t. If it wasn't a gun, he would have found some other way like making bombs and placing them in the theatre. Its the same smart ass people who wouldnt have turned him in when he was first acting weird. Whatever, people in general just want a scapegoat instead of looking at the real issue. The consumption of anti depressants, anti psychotics, anti anxiety medicines are on the RISE, you think there's people out there that don't bother going to the doctor to get medicine for their depression, mania, anxiety, psychosis? And those people dont buy house hold oroducts that they can make bombs out of? Or those people dont know how to plot, plan, etc? Or buy a gun for that matter...legally or illegally? Even if all the guns were illegal, you REALLY think people wouldn't be able to get ahold of a gun if they really wanted to? Stop being so naive. We have a mental health epidemic that people are giving a blind eye to because no one wants to deal with the idea that their NEIGHBOR might be a whack job. Instead you'll blame it on guns, have them taken away so the crazies can just bomb, run over or stab us to death...while we're unarmed. YAY! You're all such rocket scientists.
Actually, if you look into the Second Amendment, it was written to ensure against governmental tyranny. As such, there should not be the limitations you suggest. FYI - You evaluate from ignorance as one can put twice as much lead downrange in half the time with a pump shotgun. Are you gonna ban those too?
Political Prisoner 2012 is correct. The Constitution does not guarantee that we can own semi-automatic rifles with standard capacity magazines. It's actually, the Bill of Rights which guarantees that.
ALL WEAPONS ARE EITHER OFFENCIVE or Defensive.
Hammers are weapons. Many robberies and assaults with a hammer in hand so that hammer is an assault weapon when it is used as a assault weapon.
Otherwise it would just be a hammer.
Do you blame the hammer or the the person using a hammer as an assault weapon?
Take hammers away from everyone that is not a carpenter and registered as a carpenter?
Fools.
Illinois is trying to pass a total gun ban today!
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the people who drew up the Constitution(Well most of them anyway) were aware that the people needed to be able to protect themselves from government tyranny, as well as personal protection. I mean The founders had just revolted against Britain. A revolt which would not have been successful without guns. I think if the constitution didn't want us to have guns it would say so, though I'm pretty sure there wasn't anyone stupid enough back then that would pass an amendment to take away guns. Also the problems we are having with shooting is not a gun problem. You could blow up a school just as easily as shoot it up. It is a person problem.
GUN CONTROL is a
dangerous road as HISTORY SHOWS
Gun control advocates
are naive about AUTHORITARIANISM.
AUTHORITARIANISM is
easily implemented with an unarmed civil population… THE RED COATS ARE COMING
for Your GUNS AND AMMO TO RENER YOU INTO HELPLESS SHEEPLE.
UNARMED PEOPLE ARE
SHEEPLE TO ANY AUTHORITARIAN OR MAD MAN
Noah Webster (Founding Father) believed that having an armed public would
prevent the government from becoming corrupted because the people would have
more power than the government itself. He wrote:
"Before a standing
army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom
in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the
sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force
superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in
the United States."
GUN Control by King
George FORCED the writing of the Declaration of Independence
In early American
colonial times, this right to bear arms was carried on by the English colonists
who needed arms to defend their property from the Native Americans. Families
were often alone on the frontier and they needed to be able to defend
themselves.
Only you can protect
yourself!
Even if there had been
an army, it would have taken too long for it to arrive in the event of trouble.
Many of the early colonial constitutions included a mention of the right to
bear arms for defensive purposes for this very reason.
The dangers of having a
Standing Army
Standing armies were
very unpopular to the colonists and to many Europeans because Europe had seen
many armies come to power that ended up ruling over the people. Instead of
having standing armies, the colonists would train together for purposes of
local defense, using their own arms during their training and in actual
military events. These local groups were called "militia" and are
somewhat equivalent to our National Guard today.
The Federal Government
and the United Nations want your guns so you can be sheeple instead of people
with arms to fight back.
During the Revolutionary
War era, the British recognized the colonists would use their weapons to
defend themselves, so they made efforts to confiscate as many weapons as they
could. If you recall, this was the primary instigation of the Battles of
Lexington and Concord, the first battles of the Revolution. These battles
erupted when the British were trying to capture the colonists' weapons and
ammunition stores at Concord.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the people who drew up the Constitution were also aware that the government needs to protect itself from well armed militias that want the union to be destroyed. Cause you know, it would only make sense that after all their trouble they wouldn't want the country to descend into anarchy because a few so called "patriotic defenders of freedom" (idiots) banded together to storm the White House.
Everyone is always so quick to blame the gun, like it grew legs and arms and up and unloaded by itself. Blame the person firing the weapon, semi automatic or not! Banning them isnt' the answer at all! People die in car accidents every day, you don't see the government taking that right away! People die of cancer from smoking every minute, and no one is taking that away! And to argue "you can have a hand gun but not a semi automatic weapon" is absolute ignorance. That is like saying "It's ok to drive drunk if you only had beer, but not with vodka, thats some serious stuff!!" I agree with everyone with a brain on here, give the guy his fair trial and when he is proven guilty by a jury of his peers pull the trigger. Wasting our tax dollars for him to sit in prison, or in a mental facility with him playing video games and getting 3 hot meals a day is not the answer!
You guys, gals getting worked up over what Vivian says are playing right into his hand (yes I said he since most women don't get this bored to try and get a rise out of people). Hes just just like the media, trying to create another story.
Sheepled - 'Fools' is a bold statement. I read your comment and was wondering who you were referring to?
In the hands of a skilled person, I suppose anything could be an 'assault weapon'. Hammers, knives, cars, this pen on my desk. Can you use a gun to build a house? Carve a turkey? Drive to work? Sign your name?
Guns have a singular purpose - kill something or shoot at a target as a hobby. To make matters worse, you don't really need much skill or strength to wield a gun, unlike other potential weapons.
Sorry but the phrase you are getting at 'People kill people, guns don't kill people' just doesn't fly anymore. Combine mentally disturbed people with a seemingly endless supply of guns and this is what happens. We can't get rid of the crazy people, but we can get rid of their weapons.
What a freak this guy is. If he avoids the death penalty due to mental illness, let's crack open that skull and see what makes him tick.
He's gotten the attention he wanted, made the point he wanted to make (whatever it was). Now it's time for him to go away permanently.
What Drugs was he prescribed and by who and if they knew about suicidal and homicidal thoughts caused from those drugs.
yes
Then hang the pharm executives for profiting off of dangerous drugs to the public.
an now this @!$%#bag and his @!$%#bag attorneys will cost the state of colorado millions of tax payer dollars when all that really needs to happen is a bullet to the back of his head. good job libs.
I agree Uncle Henry. I bet more nut jobs would think twice if they knew they were gonna pay with their lives. Of course not all of them as some committ suicide.
What Drugs was he prescribed and by who and if they knew about suicidal and homicidal thoughts caused from those drugs.
yes
Then hang the pharm executives for profiting off of dangerous drugs to the public.
@ Uncle Henry,
Hell, why even bother with a trial; let's just lynch him right now. I'm sure you have a tree and a rope down there in swamp country?
Seriously? How much freakin evidence do you need? A higher body count?
Holmes is another example of how screwed up decades of knee jerk liberalism has made our justice system. There is no doubt the scum bag is guilty. And if things still worked the way the founding fathers had intended, he would have already been tried, convicted and hanged. But thanks to the efforts of criminal loving liberals who have added all kinds of concocted "rights" to the penal codes, this sordid mess is being dragged out interminably at considerable cost to taxpayers. He will probably wind up being declared criminally insane and spend many years in a plush looney bin paid for with taxpayers' money.
I feel bad for him, and he needs help. Hopefully he will be well again someday and can get away from total jerks like you!
The best way he can get away from 'jerks' like us is to hang him right after the trial.
Bazinga.
Vivian, I sincerely hope that some day some nut sack like Holmes kills one of your loved ones. Then we will see if your liberal heart still bleeds for murdering human garbage.
My heart bleeds for you Catzenjammer! You need to learn to love all people and animals like I do rather than be mad all the time. I love all people, cultures, and religions and believe we all will live together in harmony one day with the help of people like our president. Because of this, that poor guy Holmes did kill many of my loved ones because he did not get the love he needed at that time.
Vivian
Do you adopt ex-con (even though they all should never be let out of jail) murders, rapists and pedophiles to live with you? They need a home with love too as you suggest to all the "jerks" out there.
Hey, maybe Hollywierd will make a reality show with household that adopt violent criminals to "love".
He is beyond help. He is a murderer. Execute him.
Vivian, YOU need help.
Please stop; Vivian is obviously trolling for responses. In any murder, sex offender, type cases; if guilty with NO DOUBT they should be executed within a month. How many people are killed, raped, etc...by previously convicted offenders? Too many. If proof positive, execute within a month. It might actually work as a deterrent if carried out swiftly. Only change, I would make it excruciatingly painful before they died.
I would gladly invite him into my home, all he needs is a little love. That will change everything, you will see
Dear Lord Vivian. Put down the pipe NOW! There is NOTHING WRONG with him. Look at the mugshot. Fake as can be. HE IS PLAYING THE SYSTEM. HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING! Anyone who can plan a tactic like that clearly has all the marbles in the bag.
The guy is insane. Sane people do not shoot strangers for no reason. You cannot punish an insane person. They won't even know you are punishing them. Case in point: Charles Manson is serving life as a "punishment". If you ask him if he's being punished, he will tell you he is doing his service to Satan and will be rewarded for his time. The only positive thing we can do with and for this guy, is to isolate him from society so that he can do no more harm to it.
Vivian, on the outside chance your are not just a troll, you cannot fix whats wrong with this guy. there is no surgery, no therapy, no nothing that can fix this. This is not a case of "mommy din't love me enough'. in order to kill innocent people, you either have to hate them, or have no empathy at all. In most cases like this, the part of the brain that feels empathy does not work. it's broken.
Catzenjammer. you contradict yourself. you called him a "nut sack". if he is a "nut" then he is not responsible for his actions and must be isolated. ty for making my point.
Vivian, you are an idiot. Those people did NOTHING to him. they did not love or did they hate him and he murdered them. He took their life away. How can you sanely defend that? Loving all people is great, but when someone is WRONG they are WRONG. And we are all responsible for our OWN actions. There are consequences for everything we do and hopefully he learns that lesson soon. and hopefully you do too.
Uhhhhhh.....nooooooooooooo... Catzenjammer called him a nut sak be cause he is beneath even that.
This Vivian chick is cracking me up!! She can't be serious. There's absolutely no friggin way!! Or is there? Is she the Anti-Christ!!??? Or a tree hugger!??
wasn't there a poem by some chick named Emily? A nut , is a nut , is a nut, by any other name is still a nut" lol I understand your point, but to me my nuts are good things. I don't equate my man parts as something negative. and so i missed that possibility.
Amanda, insane people are NOT responsible for their actions, which is why we lock them up in a proper facility. not shoot them.
She's James Holmes' sex slave. He has obviously beaten her into bending to his will so that he would have someone to actually defend him to the public. Team Holmes!
Seve. First of all, you forgot the T. second of all, I am a tree hugger. God gave us trees. trees give us food to eat, air to breath, shade, fire wood, furniture etc. I hug trees and say "thank you God, these are wonderful gifts of life. thank you, thank you, thank you." And that's why I became a tree hugging liberal and a do gooder. lol
George-people know right from wrong. You don't do the "right" thing for years then suddenly do the "wrong" thing and get to say "I didnt know any better" If he were a true psycho, with no ability to know right from wrong, this wouldnt hae been his first offense. I'm not willing to have my tax dollars pay for murdering psychos, so firing squad it is. Thanks for your two cents Georgie!
Vivian
Your heart is in the right place but this mad man killed 12 people and wounded another 70. Yes he needs help and he will probably get it. I doubt he will ever see a jail cell but rather be put in a mental hospital for the rest of his life. Now I am Canadian and we abolished the death penalty a long time ago because we didnt feel it should be "an eye for an eye" so for me to feel as all these other people here do means that when horrific things like this happen I have no compassion for this shooter or any other shooter who takes lives be he sane or not. Yes they can control his illness with meds to a point but to let him out with the the public again is insane. He will stop taking them, they all do cause they are really terrible meds to handle, and then without a doubt we will have another incident like this one. Without a doubt. So you are free to have your own opinion and compassion but dont you think that compassion should be for the people and their families whose lives were forever changed that day. I doubt he will get the death penalty but if he does I say "good he has nothing to contribute to society anyway".
Amanda, you missed the part of not having the ability to feel empathy. not all crazy people are the same.
however: The son of sam killer was always insane but did not commit his first murder till he was nearly thirty. Explanation? Manson was over thirty when he sent his people out to kill. explanation?
are you saying they are not crazy? A crazy person can know that something is wrong as far as society says, but their brain may not be able to understand why. Again, to kill people you don't even know takes either hate, or insanity, or even fear they will do you harm. the only one that makes any sense in this situation, is insanity. ei: his brain is broken, there is no fix, a civilized person would call for his permanent isolation from society. period. if he did this for money, or political reasons, etc. then shoot him. but alas, he is just plain crazy.
*pay for murdering psychos to be in jail.... oops! left that out!
plain crazy. so then why would you have other people risk THIER LIVES to take care of him for the rest of his life rather then just putting him down? They are crazy and a liability no matter where they are-in society or in a cage so why possibly put other people in harms way? Why should some psychiatric hospital nurse with kids and a family poosibly be killed because she's taking care of James Holmes in a psychiatric ward when the rest of society did not want to deal with him? Hmmm Death penalty.
Tell you what Amanda, you shoot him, and when you meet god. just tell him that it was just cheaper to kill him. I hope i'm standing right behind you on judgement day when you say that. lol should be fun. for me anyway.
obviously you have never seen a max security mental ward.
Um George... Hey George!! I didn't forget the T, moron!! LOL!! Thats my name, Seve (say it with me.. Sevy... like chevy) UGHHHH!!! Really???
Seve, sorry, i was just being a wise @$$. trying to lighten things up,,,no offense was meant. :)
Obviously, you dont work in one. And if someone were to shoot my 4 year old in a theatre because he just wanted to, because he didnt give a sh!t about anyone but his self, because the he was made fun of when he was little and had a complex, because he's a coward and thought he could only prove his worth by shooting innocent people including children....you're right, I would shoot him! I would take his life knowing that I probably saved someone else from his murderous intent and that he has no place in our society . god knows whats in your heart, not what man thinks of you. So you go ahead and stand behind me in line.
And you totally were being a smart ass in a rude way with Seve's name. It's pretty obvious. Back down when someone calls you out. You are completely right. We are cut from a different cloth, you are a wuss who would let his family be killed by someone rather then taking up for your family and ending the murderers life. You are pathetic.
None taken GP... ;)
STOP CALLING HIM A CRAZY NUT JOB!!!! You are giving the defense all the fodder it needs. That man attended psychology classes, dropped out, stock piled weapons and rigged his entire building to blow up if someone entered his apartment. That is not the work of one that is insane. It is the work of a cold calculating sadistic individual with no moral compass. It makes it easier for us as a society to accept his actions if we can say he's bat $hit crazy. It makes it easier to slide him into the category 'crazy' , put him away for life and go on with ours. It makes it easier to believe that all men are inherently good, not all of us are. History is filled with people like James Holmes. Hitler wasn't crazy, he was hateful. Stalin wasn't crazy, he was hateful. Raznatovic wasn't crazy, he was hateful. McVeigh wasn't crazy, he was hateful. See a pattern? All of these men were 100% aware of their planned calculated actions. Sorry Vivian but some people are beyond help, beyond love, regardless of how hard you try.
Viv, Adam Lanza's mother loved him and look what it got her, DEAD. Adam, and Mr. Holmes are two alike but Adam killed himself rather than being taken captive. He probably knew if captured, he never see the light of day again, and perhaps would face the wrath of GOD for killing 20 children with an assault rifle which he should never have had possession of. The liberal beliefs of NRA though made that possible, just like they made it possible for Mr. Holmes to get his firearms.
Ed Orr- Do you think he couldve gotten them illegally? I'm betting yes. Or how about those household chemicals he used to make the bombs in his apartment? I agree with you Lauren-33, some people are just EVIL and like to see others in misery because they are hateful. Why is that so surprising to people? Not everyone is good. there are people who are just EVIL. there are people who do not care about anyone but themselves,, that no matter how much Haldol, Zoloft or Xanax you shove down their throats, they wont change their mind about wanting to see the world burn. Or people that find joy in killing others, in watching others suffer. There isn't a tablet for sadism.
Why did he fail at that??
from what ive gotten out of the articles i have eread, he failed at a class(es) related to the phd nueroscience program he was in.
could that have included a class where the physc was the prof ? i don't no, but also from what i recall holmes had been seeing the physc a few times for help.
Because they where more concerned about law suits then safety? Or maybe his shrink is just really bad at his job? which would explain why he is not in private practice. take your pick.
All covered by the gag order,buddy boy.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/10/did-colorado-shooter-single-out-cinemark-theater/
Thank you for that info.
I prefer to patronize those places I can carry or at least some other good guy is there for me to get behind when they shoot and hit the sociopaths bulls eye!
Economykiller, thank you for posting that link. It's a major detail that our mass media refuses to make headline. Almost ALL of these mass-shootings/killings happen in 'anti-gun zones'.
To everyone on the anti-gun band wagon....how many times you ever heard of a police station, gun retailer, or gun show being robbed or a 'massacre' happening under those roofs? You haven't....for a reason.
And why do we AR-15 owners 'feel like we need them'? Why do people think they need health insurance, a $500 cell phone, a automobile that will exceed 100mph, auto insurance, a big screen TV???? The list does on and on. My AR-15 is SECURED in a fire proof gun safe protected by a combination that only I have access to. My AR-15 is not a threat to society and neither am I. Why should anyone else have a say-so as to what I own???
Guess what was not mentioned by the national media...
The gunman entered a theater to shoot and an off duty cop with her conceal and carry took him down. Only 2 people were injured, think of how bad it would have been if someone with a weapon wasn't there to stop him.
Really.. how many people, percentage-wise, feel the need to go to a movie, heavily armed?
I'd say less that 10%. (and thats a high estimate) I am not a big movie theater patron, but the day I feel the need to have a loaded gun in my pocket, to go see the Hobbit, is the day I should should stop seeing movies, and start seeing a therapist for paranoid schizophrenia. Next, you folks will want to wear full body armour to go to church.
Damn, needing a loaded gun in your pocket to do normal everyday things? Thats disturbing. Sorry, I just can't live in that kind of fear. Its unhealthy.
But go on and live your Doomsday Prepper lifestyle. Its your freedom. Look out, watch over your shoulder, the boogie mans coming. Thats not life, thats just pathetic...
@Shawn...no ,pathetic is on your knees crying at the movie theatre while some whacko slaughters everybody,and the only thing you can do is wet your pants.
you bet your a$$ I'll be armed at the movie theatre after this crap.
Come on johnnyboy, you know sure as hell, the chances of being in a movie theater while some whacko is slaughtering patrons, is about as likely as getting hit by lightning (or LESS likely) Your rhetoric is just plain paranoid. Your right, I can "bet my a$$, that folks like you will feel the need be armed in a movie theater. And that my friend, IS pathetic. You need to calm down, stop planning on becoming a victim, stop thinking that your gonna have to take a life to defend your own, and try and just live life.
The more paranoid folks get, the more reactionary, and the more dangerous they become. Calm the Fk down, its gonna be alright. Go see a movie, get some pop corn, and PLEASE don't shoot anyone..
Tell the dead people all about the odds of getting shot at the movies.
If you're too big of a wimp to defend yourself,fine,I'm not.
Make sure you take a girl or boyfriend to the movie with you and you can use them for a human shield.
This is a waste of taxpayer money and a waste of time. This guy probably doesn't even know what's going on and after they deliver the inevitable 'life sentence' it still won't make any difference to him nor will justice be served.
Bring the FOCKER here to Texas... We've got no probelm killing the wicked!!
Texas? they have no problem killing anyone. isn't that the place where they dragged a guy behind a pick up truck till his head cam off? KILL KILL KILL Won't see me in Texas. lol
Yes that poor man, human being, was dragged to death behind their truck. And one of the three white trash SOB was put to death already. 2 more to go and justice will be served... TEXAS STYLE!!
Yeah, Georgie....don't confuse crime with governmental action.
His trial, incarceration (life?) and treatments are going to cost many millions of dollars.
Is his life worth that? Is society best served by this course of action?
Some guard should save the American taxpayer the millions of dollars it's going to cost to keep this worthless sack of flesh alive and just accidentally push him down some stairs when he's cuffed and shackled....or make sure the vehicle exhaust is directed back into his section of the van when they transfer him from prison to court :)
This sociopath can only be cured by hanging until dead.
So why waste the money with the cost of a trial?
He had been seeing a Military Shrink long before the shooting & was put on the drugs he was on & there were multiple witnesses to there being more than ONE shooter,same with the temple shooting in Wisc.
you win the conspiracy award for being the first to bring the gov./military and J.F.K. (by proxy) as being tied to this. Now if only we could find the likes of Jack Ruby or That Booth lad to bring this air tight argument to a close.
Why do we need a trial? On the way to the court just direct the exhaust back into the van...he's dead, money is saved, and justice is done.
Just shoot the looney in the head and get it over with....
Political prisoner....
The only person that can stop a bad man with a gun is a good man with a gun.
In every case the automatice "assult" rifle was STOLEN! How is banning them going to effect a mental case that cares not what the law says?
It is a sad state when law enforcement is "out gunned" by a whack job!
I own and carry a gun. When someone shoots at me in the movie theater, I will shoot back. I usually hit what I aim at. Semper Fi
He had approached a couple of shrinks for treatment, had been treated and he still ended up committing a heinous crime. The rehabilitative process in this country needs a second look, along with 4,000 beds short in psychiatric units. The result is that we now have more whack jobs loose in society. Combine that with MORE GUNS also easily accessible and you have a recipe for disaster. Instead of building more prisons, we need to build more looney bins to remove these whack jobs from society, thus making "normal" gun owners happy.
Why are we wasting so much time and energy of this "person"...just get Judge Roy Bean, and be done with it...
or judge Judy.
How did he get through an emergency door when there locked from the outside?
Can anyone answer this question?
Morgan, if I recall right, he had been in the movie watching it for a while. A number of witnesses remembered seeing him sitting towards the front on the right (probably the weird hair.) He faked a phone call, and went out the emergency door, and returned a few minutes later. Ostensibly to get his weapons and costume on. Then he returned.
I have read articles were people claimed he was not alone. I always figured someone let him in?
He was alone when he threatened the professor and psychotherapist at college. He was alone when he flunked his exam. He was alone when he booby trapped his apartment. Those articles were doubtless written by someone eager to start a conspiracy theory and stir things up for excitement. Bottom line, SURVIVORS of the attack saw him sitting alone before exiting and re-emerging in costume. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it IS a duck...and no conspiracy needs to be sought out. Best regards, fair-n-square
Vivian: You are a troll. Or you are insane expecting a mass murderer to eventually become a *productive member of society.*
she did, however, offer up her house as a place of refuge and rehabilitation. I am guessing that he would have to be a cat lover and not mind the smell of feces. (vieled reference to a 'Cat Woman' - you know, 200 cats running lose and being 'free' in her trailer)
Yes I live alone with my cats.. so what?
Do the cats talk to you? do they say mean things? Do they guide you?
"Vivian" is a character Timmie plays when being male is just too much stress. He/she purposely tries to set off outrage so he/she can snicker about it at your expense.
To the cats, huh Timmie?
TIMMAY!
Lets run him through a wood chipper in front of violent felons!!
Ban the ban on cruel & unusual punishment!
Amanda, banning high capacity magazines and semi-automatic firearms isn’t going to do anything. In the hands of a responsible and knowledge able person it’s considered a firearm. In the hands of a psychopath it is considered a weapon. Items like these can be banned and taken away all you want. Criminal’s and crazy’s are going to get their hands on it weather it’s legal or not because that is what they do.
Give this a-hole “the chair” He obviously won’t last in the normal every day society. Nor does he deserve it.
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As a country we do not take care of the young, the elderly, the poor or the mentally ill.
We beat our chest and lie to ourselves how we are the greatest country in the world, in the mean time we have a government that doesn't work, the congress works 124 days of the year and do nothing to help the country go forward, you have these regressive Bible thumping and gun nuts holding the entire country hostage
How did we get here?
We let the right wing wave the flag, tell us that we are the commies, and pave the way for a new world order. The hidden rich tried using Hitler but that didn't work, so now they use religion and propaganda to control the world. oh! and a very large military.
RCMcL & Laztstrall easy now on th VW's!!!( mine just squished her headlights being grouped with the crazy people) please don't lump all of us VW owners in the same catergory as Vivian... I own one, would love some world peace etc... but want this evil, POS executed as well :) Not all of us VW owners are crazy whack jobs that want to love and cuddle these murderers. :)
Vivian is a troll- stop feeding her