New Jersey Governor Chris Christie criticizes Congress for delaying relief funds for the victims of Hurricane Sandy.
The House GOP came under a blistering bipartisan assault Wednesday for punting on Sandy relief, with Republican New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie complaining he couldn’t even get Speaker John Boehner to return his calls.
Fallout from the surprise vote pullback on a $60 billion aid package mounted by the hour with cries of outrage and calls for revenge.
By late afternoon, it seemed like the onslaught was having an effect. The House scheduled a Friday vote on $9 billion in flood insurance funds, to be followed by a Jan. 15 vote on another $51 billion in assistance.
It was unclear if the larger allocation would pass – or if the belated vote would mollify the New York and New Jersey politicians who unleashed unusually personal attacks against Boehner and other House Republicans.
House to vote on Sandy funding Friday, placating outraged lawmakers
Earlier, New York Rep. Pete King said his Republican colleagues had exposed a bias against the blue states of the Northeast and that anyone from the area who donates money to them “should have his head examined.”
“They can’t count on any vote from me now,” he said on MSNBC.
Christie, who has been touted as a possible White House contender, put the blame for the delay squarely on Boehner and marveled that he called the Ohioan four times before he would take his call.
“Shame on you, Congress,” he said, adding that he has received no explanation for the “disappointing and disgusting” decision.
The $60 billion request for assistance for to victims of Superstorm Sandy has been passed by the Senate, and House supporters were pushing for a Tuesday night vote.
House Speaker John Boehner had quietly decided the House should not pass billions more in spending for Sandy relief, stunning both Democrats and Republicans from the storm-ravaged region. But after being subjected to intense pressure, a vote on some emergency aid will now be held on Friday. NBC's Kelly O'Donnell reports.
Instead, King said, Boehner “just walked off” the floor and had an aide break the news that there would be no vote. The House adjourned on Wednesday without considering the measure; lawmakers are back Thursday for an hour before they gavel in the 113th Congress.
While some Republicans have criticized the aid package for funds not directly linked to Sandy, Boehner spokesman Michael Steel said the speaker is “committed to getting this bill passed this month.”
That promise didn’t quiet the fury.
“Totally obscene,” said Tom Jordan, a former firefighter whose house in Rockaway, Queens, was flooded by the storm that killed 120 people and damaged almost 400,000 homes.
“They’re quibbling about $60 billion? That’s nothing as far as the federal budget goes. They should come down here and see what the beach looks like. They want to wait? We need repairs before the next hurricane season.”
Rep. Michael Grimm, a Republican who represents parts of Staten Island and Brooklyn, called the delay “a personal betrayal.” Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand dared Boehner to visit Staten Island, then added that she doubts “he has the dignity nor the guts to do it.”
First Read: 'Betrayal': Congress punts on Sandy recovery funding, infuriating local lawmakers
“They’re a bunch of idiots,” Staten Island Borough President James Molinaro, a Conservative, said of House Republicans. “There’s no other logical reason they’d be doing this.”
Those hit hardest by Hurricane Sandy say they are close to the breaking point, their faith in government flagging. NBC's Anne Thompson reports.
In a joint statement, Christie and New York’s Gov. Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat, accused the house of a “dereliction of duty.”
“When American citizens are in need we come to their aid,” they said. “That tradition was abandoned in the House last night.”
But it was King who really let his Republican colleagues have it.
“The fact is that the dismissive attitude that was shown last night toward New York, New Jersey and Connecticut typifies, I believe, a strain in the Republican Party,” he said on the House floor.
“I can’t imagine that type of indifference, that cavalier attitude being shown to any other part of the country,” he added.
“We cannot believe this cruel knife in the back was delivered to our region… This is not the United States of America! This should not be the Republican Party. This should not be the Republican leadership.”
Although he said he is not thinking of switching parties, King suggested New Yorkers should hit House Republicans who don’t support the bill where it hurts – in the campaign coffer.
“These people have no problem finding New York when it comes to raising money. They only have a problem when it comes to allocating,” he fumed.
“If this is not delivered and very quickly…anyone from New York or New Jersey who contributes one penny to congressional Republicans after this should have their head examined,” he added on MSNBC.
Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., blasts Speaker John Boehner and Congress for delaying action on a bill that would provide aid toward Hurricane Sandy relief efforts.
Boehner is supposed to meet with Republican members of the New York and New Jersey delegations on Wednesday to reassure them that the relief bill will be passed.
But King expressed skepticism about a quick vote, noting a majority of House Republicans don’t support the bill and Washington will be soon be preoccupied with the inauguration and the State of the Union.
President Obama called on the House to bring the bill to a vote immediately and “pass it without delay for our fellow Americans.”
It’s unclear what impact the vote delay with have. The head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency testified this month that it had enough funding to “respond to the immediate needs.”
Rep. Darrell Issa (R-California) defended Boehner’s move, blaming the Senate for padding the relief package with non-essential funding.
“The Senate didn’t do their job. They sent us a bunch of pork, and then left town,” he said on “Fox and Friends.”
NBC News' Tom Curry and Frank Thorp contributed to this report.
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Let the cannabilism begin!!!
What are they surprised about?... There were only people affected... No corporations to rescue there
Standard GOP practice under the Boehner/TP caucus
I am more than happy for my taxes to be used to help out fellow Americans who have suffered devastation from natural disasters...and I am not a Christian.
How can the amoral, Party of No (which attempts to legislate morality), not care about their fellow citizens and yet wrap themselves in God and the flag?
Pathetic, Party of No.
RamFla, U.S. Law states that Corporations are people(entitled to all the rights of a citizen). The sad thing is, I'm not making that up.
New Orleans , the city in a bowl below sea level got tons of money .
What is wrong with the good people of Long Island ??? They vote , pay their taxes and live AT ( not below ) sea level . Sandy did more damage to the Island than Katrina did to New Orleans. Come on congress, get your shi* together and help those people out. My god we are still sending money to Haiti for how long now and the place is still as bad or worse than before. Take care of our own first.
Why the surprise? This is now the party of Ayn Rand worshipers. This is the party that believes that even the concept of a society that shares, supports, and sacrifices for others is a sign of weakness. Society = socialism.
Government workers are to be reviled. Praise only the wealthy. Help only those who can help you with contributions. Quid pro quo. Quid pro quo. If you can't do anything for me, then screw you. Didn't you listen to Paul Ryan? to Trump? to Romney? They despise the poor, the sick, the elderly, the needy.
These are the nastiest, greediest, unchristian bastards on earth. And yet folks vote for them. Stop complaining if you are Republican or vote Republican. This is who they are. NO SURPRISE HERE.
Not sure why I'm always surprised by this type of stuff. But what do you expect from the party who chose Romney and his idea of Sandy relief was to hold a campaign event complete with his Biography repeating on the big screen, where they asked people to bring in canned food or clothes and blankets so they could donate it to Red Cross for Sandy Relief. The problem with Romney's Red Cross Aid Event, is that if the Romney Campaign would have visited the Red Cross website or involved one Red Cross employee they would know that the Red Cross does not accept material donations of any sort because they don't have the space to store it, or the resources and manpower to sort and distribute random donations.
And since when did wanting to vote no on something mean you just don't vote on it at all. If your political views go against any piece of legislation, you express those concerns to you peers and then use your power to vote no instead of blocking the vote because you know it will pass. There are some good, intelligent, caring Republicans out there, but if you look at the party's choices and actions you can see that they aren't the ones in power.
Typical of the 112th Congress, led by Boehner the Crying Bonehead. He can't get his Plan B passed by his own party, defers to the VP and Senate Minority Speaker for the fiscal cliff talks, and now this, even criticized by people in his party. Pathetic. It won't happen, but it would serve him right for him to lose the Speakership in the House.
"Park Avenue: Money, Power and the American Dream". Find it on-line, watch and learn what and who our leaders care about. Politics in America has nothing to do with our society or individual needs. It is all about who has the most ($) at the end of the game. Our government will send trillions of dollars out of the country "to help" (read: influence) our fellow citizens of planet Earth, but argue over helping our families and neighbors in times of desperate need. Every time mother nature guts this country, it is a war over who gets what ($) and how best to take advantage, financially, of the pain and suffering of our fellow citizens. All we can depend on are each other and prepare for the time when we are sacrificed for the "good" of our political system.
Just as a side comment:
After the town of Joplin, Missouri, was devastated by a tornado in 2011, everyone there was so happy to have the President and FEMA rush in with disaster relief. Then, after receiving over half a BILLION dollars from FEMA to rebuild that town, Joplin citizens voted overwhelmingly for Mitt Romney who wanted to do away with FEMA altogether (he proposed having individual states take care of their own community disasters).
LOL
Nice gratitude, Joplin!
NY and NJ contribute far more $ than we receive from the federal government-yet when we need help, we have to wait longer than anyone else?
Hospitals need money to rebuild to provide care. Businesses need help to rebuild. Families need help to get out of the trailers and temporary housing they are living in and back into their homes. And they are playing politics?
Really an emergency $60 billion that the Congressional Budget office says that $9 billion would be spent in 2013, $13 billion in 2014 and $11.6 billion in 2015. The bill contains $2 million to fix the roof of the Smithsonian, $336 million for Amtrak, $8 million for new cars for federal agencies, $150 million for fisheries in Mississippi and Alaska and $4 million for the Kennedy Space Center. Sound like it took lots of arm twisting to even get the bill to the house. Maybe the media should start to do the people's business and report the real news. Stop playing politics and wasting my money. People want higher taxes on the rich for what reason? Lets help the people who need our aid and tell our congressmen to go to hell with the rest. Sen Reid state that we need to hurry? What a joke.
Obama promised he was going to take care of the hurricane victims...cut the red tape and he was going to see to it himself...oh wait, that was before the election. By the way, unemployment benefits have been extended yet another year and i don't know why seeing as how Obama said that jobs were his #1 priority....oh wait, that was before the election. He also promised...oh, never mind, it's useless.
Quick. Have those towns change their names to Bank of America, Chase Manhattan, Citibank...and they'll get trillions instantly.
Please stop rewarding these elected officials by RE-ELECTING them over and over. They are simply ripping you off, working 1/3rd of the year and then voting themselves pay and benefit increases.
You tend to get the govt you created for yourself.
And King hit the nail on the head. The GOP/TP see everything as a 'Us vs Them', forgetting that these are Americans too. Rep. King, there's an easy solution; see to it that federal monies paid to a state don't exceed the amount the state pays to the federal government. Seeing how the majority of states that get more than they pay are red, let these morons cut services and benefits to their constituents and see how they like it.
That bill is full of pork, environmental program monies, global warming initiatives and very little for the victims of huricanes. I'm glad they are still discussing it more and plan to hack out the pork before signing it. Quit exploiting those vitims for monitary gain for special interest programs.
This is nothing more than a continuation by the obstructionists to interfere with any, and everything President Obama sets forth. He promised Gov. Chris Christie, a Republican, that the government would do whatever it takes to make them whole again, and now these useless republican obstructionists are at it once again.
It's truly pathetic.....and I submit, will probably get worst once Cantor overthrows Boehner tomorrow since Cantor is one of the original 13 obstructionists who met on January 20, 2009 during President Obamas inauguration to disrupt, and obstruct his administration.
bob1/28
Yes they did but the GOP made them wait. If you remember, Pres. GWB was our great leader (Yes, sarcasm intended) at the time and placed New Orleans on a back burner. But when it was Texas, later that year he put it front and center. So, as per usual, GOP doesn't care about states unless they, the GOP leaders, are directly affected. In this case the states were considered blue so the reds don't care.
Heck, according to Commonsense53 and ToldYouSo, Gov. Chris Christie and Sen. Peter King are two of the biggest liars, thieves, and crooks in Republican't history.
You'll never guess what the Tea Party newsies did here as news on the fiscal cliff progressed. On the tv guide station that tells what's on tv tonight - the listings showed that The Ed Show was pre-empted by Lockup, to be followed by Lockup: Arizona, not Maddow. Being a man, I flipped through the channels and there was Ed on in his usual time slot, giving you-know-who what-for. That was not coincidence. Then this morning the scroll under the local newscast read, "President Obama approves of fiscal cliff deal that is unjustly skewed raising taxes only on the wealthiest Americans." That's exactly what we have come to expect from the Republican right, the smell and smear of human excrement.
Stumblin'n have you read the bill yet?
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr1eas/pdf/BILLS-112hr1eas.pdf
Watching the Republicans this morning was like watching a dog pound where all the cage doors were accidentally allowed to open. Chaos, growling, snipping, and outright bitch-slapping, to extend a canine metaphor.
Maybe Boehner should simply allow his run as Speaker to expire. Cantor can then have a go and we can see him exposed for the conniving wimp that we all know him to be.
Stumblin'n - It seems your lack factual content and vulgarities seem to overshadow your ability to convey anything that separates you from the handle you chose to use here.
Look at all the libs that believe that NBC news is the bible. You stupid @!$%#s, read the damn bill. It is so filled with pork that it isn't even funny. Boehner did say that he will take care of the hurricane victims, just not with this bill. Why is Alaska even in the bill if it's funding for the hurricane? Alaska is no where close, and that is only one of the pork portions of the bill.
If the senate wanted a bill to help the hurricane victims then they should have written a bill to help the hurricane victims.
You libs make me sick with your ignorance. Try reading something other than nbc for your news since they couldn't report balanced news to save themselves. Tracy Connor needs to invest in a different career.
To quote Boehner with his comment to Reid... Go @!$%# yourself.
Stumblin'n thinks he's actually different from a Fox News believer. In other words, he's so drowned in his extremist position, he shames anything he says he's promoting. Quoting the Ed show. Really? Why not just lick your own rear end while you are at it and call it food?
The vaporhead extremists cause these problems and should be forced to swim to another country. King is right....Boehner should have the guts to take on the idiots who would even think not to pass this bill. I don't even blame Boehner. I blame the dumb ass knuckledraggers who sound like they tried to force him to not put the bill forward. Like the Kentucky Congressman.
Pretend thinkers like Stumblin'n just get more gas to act through their regressive childhood when a dope extremist can't think to pass a bill that helps people. If you listen to King, his criticism is perfectly emotional while being level headed. Force the naysayers in the open.
And if you vote for only one party, regardless of which one, you should remove yourself from this country on account of not bothering to understand how it works.
Alex posts here on NBCNews.com but wants US to look elsewhere for our news. Typical.
@Alex. If you watch the videos with the story, you'll see that the pork was taken out of the bill when it got to the House so they would have been voting on a pure assistance bill.
And the Taliban teapublicans refer to themselves as "compassionate conservatives". My behind !!!
When was the outrage from these Washington folks when it came to the Pork attached to the bill that was approved last night? That money could have been used towards the Hurricane Sandy cause instead of NASCAR, Rum and Hollywood.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/02/from-nascar-to-rum-the-10-weirdest-parts-of-the-fiscal-cliff-deal/
The worst House of Representatives in the NATION"S HISTORY
a total CLOWN CIRCUS led by the TEA PARTY RADICAL NUT JOBS!
Hey, AlexM, didn't you see that the pork is going to some Red states? Now how could that be. It's okay if you show your immaturity and swear at me. I'll just laugh harder.
thanks for the input, though, no need to lambast, insult fellow commentors. I agree with the pork-laden part...the rest is unecessary, thanks.
Welcome to the world of Ayn Rand republikans. They do not believe in collectivism, or government assistance. To them, for the average citizen, it's every man for himself. Frankly, if the right wing, TP conservatives were fully running this country this bill would never be passed... ever!!
Alex posts here on NBCNews.com but wants US to look elsewhere for our news. Typical.
I happen to read many different news sites so that I can both sides of the story. There is not one single news site that will post all the facts to give the reader a balanced view, so I do my own investigation if I'm curious enough to put in the time.
Hey, AlexM, didn't you see that the pork is going to some Red states? Now how could that be.
Why does the color of the state matter? I'm an independent and almost despise both parties equally (I despise the left a tad bit more).
If you watch the videos with the story, you'll see that the pork was taken out of the bill when it got to the House so they would have been voting on a pure assistance bill.
I'll admit I don't watch the videos here, reading what is written in the articles is enough for me. According to the house website, that bill is still in the process (don't know if the link will go through)
If the link didn't go through, it's www dot rules dot house dot gov slash Legistlation slash legislationdetails dot aspx ? NewsID=991
Welcome to the world of Ayn Rand republikans.
Ayn Rand was not against helping people in need, she was against the dependency and class warfare that comes with giving hand outs. It's human nature to want to give a hand up, regrettably it's also human nature for most to take the easy way out (hand out). Ayn Rand wasn't against helping people, she was against crossing that line in to become a welfare state, which is what we are. You need to read up on her a bit more and do some thinking instead of believing everything you're told (including what I'm telling you :) ) Do your own research and come to your own conclusions.
Oh for God's sake. So it's delayed for 2 days. It's not like they voted it down.
"Obama promised he was going to take care of the hurricane victims...cut the red tape and he was going to see to it himself...oh wait, that was before the election. By the way, unemployment benefits have been extended yetanother year and i don't know why seeing as how Obama said that jobs were his #1 priority....oh wait, that was before the election. He also promised...oh, never mind, it's useless."
The Democrats and the President are the ones pushing to get the relief to Sandy victims. While the Republicans are doing everything they can to stop the help.Yet,some people on here attack Obama for this. Not a brain cell working. No wonder the Republican/teabagger's have made us a laughingstock in the world.
It just gets better and better. The great GOP. The party who kicks their own ass over and over. Can't wait for 2016.
New Jersey Governor Chris Christie blasts House speaker John Boehner for delaying a vote on funding Superstorm Sandy clean-up efforts, and New York Rep. Michael Grimm discusses the continuing fallout.
The House GOP came under a blistering bipartisan assault Wednesday for punting on Sandy relief, with Republican New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie complaining he couldn't even get Speaker John Boehner to return his calls. Why should he Mr. Christie? Go speak to your man Obama. You was kissing his a-s then, don't look for congress look for the president.
Yeah what's the big deal? It's not like they participated in the Democratic process and voted no on it as it is their right to do, they just stopped the whole vote from happening because they knew it would pass and they don't want it to.
What is the matter with you, other than the fact that you are yet another anti-Obama conservative who blames the President for everything, no matter what?
The Republicans in the House of Representatives are the problem here. If and when they finally get their act together and pass the legislation you can bet that he will sign the bill. President Obama is leading on this issue, but it is ridiculous to expect that anyone can lead a group that refuses to be led, refuses to do the peoples' business, refuses to tell its tea party fringe that they don't always get their way.
We get it, opine. You don't like the President. You will always blame him, no matter who is really at fault and you will never give him credit for what he does. Your obvious bias renders your opinion worthless.
Give me a break! Can you whiners cry any louder? You sound like a bunch of give me bitches instead of Americans. If they can't do it themselves than what the hell can they do. Do us a favor fat guy and step down like the sissy you are. If this is all you are worried about as our country struggles to be what it once was, then what the hell good are any of you? No good!!! So for all you wimps and pussy's out there get the hell off your ass and give up your pay checks. (ALL OF IT) if your so holy and the ones who won't just give up hard earned(IF ANY OF YOU KNOW WHAT HARD EARNED MEANS) tax money are not as holy as you. Any body? N.J. is waiting for your pay check donation and your hypocrisy to follow. But I'm sure not one of you big talkers will give it up before the G.O.P. does. Go figure you thought nobody knew you were full it.
The 200 or so liberals who comment here, are obvious that they hate the Republican Party. They do not do their party any justice by being biased. Boehner will be re-elected no matter how bad you make him or the Conservatives look.
In light of developments over the past weeks, I'm given to wonder if the remaining mainstream majority of the currently-existing Republican Party will look back upon the 112th Congress and consider how it's been co-opted from within, take stock of its core values, and purge the toxic elements that are the tea party... before it's too late.
Then again, the repercussions for their failure to do so would be seriously hellacool for the Democratic Party vis-a-vis the 2014 election!
Either way, sounds like a win-win to me. Whoo-hoo!!
This is what you get when you depend on the government. Unlike private charities when the government abandons you, they still take your money at gunpoint. Make fun of the "preppers" all you want. They are the only ones who were ready and able to take care of themselves during this. Now who's crazy? lol
Always with the lets blame someone else, when America needed that cheap labor from Mexico it was lets look the other way but now since everything is made in China oh lets blame the illegals, that guy in Mexico is RICH because he minds his own business and does not play World policeman, the racist here needs to get a clue, envy is jealousy in disguise ... The truth is REPUBLICANS SUCK, thoughtless and selfish that's their MO.
What part of broke do you liberal idiots not understand. We just added $4 trillion to the national debt and you want a pork laden bill with everything but the kitchen sink in it to sail through?
The bill would pay out over years and you idiots are wetting your pants over a few days? Pathetic.
Let's not forget Hurricane Katrina and the absolute devestation that New ORleans is still cleaning up and how long it took the Government to come to their aid.
Excuse me, but didn't anybody have insurance? If you buy or build next to a ocean there is always the possibility of a hurricane. Why should all of the rest of the tax payers, pay for your choices. When you build your house upon the sand, you should know what to expect when the storm comes. I say just clean the beaches and don't rebuild. Otherwise, everybody else has to pay. I never heard anybody crying when it flooded in Nashville, they just took care of it.
Not all preppers are crazy but you still are, sorry just answering your question. Unless a prepper on Breezy Point or Coney Island had another home in their underground bunker's pantry they are SoL. Most Preppers don't have airtight, watertight, oxygen tank system bunkers, so the type of damage Sandy caused in most areas would just have more of a negative financial impact on preppers who lost all their preparations during the storm.
You can bet your last dollar that if some sort of natural disaster hit Cantor's or Boehner's district they'd be first in line to get federal aid. But since it didn't directly affect them they say "no". They, and the entire GOP/Tea Party are un-American hypocrites! Yet, there are weak minded people that vote for them. Mostly in the South, where re-districting is done to be the biggest advantage to the GOP, where they scream about "secession" all the time...let 'em secede! Then they will all be dependent on Texas to pay for their welfare and other "entitlements". How long do you think that would last???
http://www.selectsmart.com/commentary/blog.php?m=1440
Gary
That makes to much sense. the tax payers should pay for what the tax payers (government) owns, any health and safety issues and emergency food, medical and short term lodging (lodging should be included in the insurance policy). Every one should of had insurance.
We also need to cut the pork out of any relief bill.
You people are so quick to start with the political insults. Open your eyes and comprehend what you are reading.
The reason for the delay of the vote was because the bill was full of pork. More uncontrolled spending of money we dont have.
Nobody is trying to deny the Sandy victims. The republicans are being responsible by not signing a bill with more runaway spending.
The people who are crying politics and pointing the finger are doing it because they have been exposed and are pissed because they didnt get their way. Somebody has to start watching the dollars.
The repubs did it here, and now being villified for it and all you overemotional jerks just start blindly spitting out insults as usual.
Get a clue before we get spent into oblivion. And I dont want to hear any comments about how the republicans spent this or that in the past. Its time we started to keep an eye on both parties and stop cheerleading and playing into their hands.
Its a big dangerous game everyone is playing and its time everyone grew up.
I will say it....the need was not dark enough.....
The gov't didn't help much with Katrina either, it was money donated that helped and NOLA still has not recovered. You drive through there and you still see all of what has not been repaired. Where are all the famous hollywood stars, how come they don't donate their millions. I will say like people had to tell those living in NOLA-what are you doing living on the water???? Why didn't you listen to the warnings to get out-you were warned well enough in advance, and at least not so many died as did in NOLA. And as for Christi...shame on you for turning on your party right before the election, sitting there praising Obama for what he was doing when actually what has he done to help these people--where is he now-heading back to Hawaii to vacation some more..don't you think that 4 million dollar vacation could have helped these people. This country sucks when it comes to helping the very people who built it, it's our money, it's our country, it's our hard work, and we should have the say-so in where our money goes, not the lawmakers, but let something happen in another country and my oh my... we send millions to help people who hate us-something very wrong with this picture. Don't blame congress Christi, blame your pal Obama-all he did was go there for a little election coverage to make himself look good and now he could care less what happens there.
The Republican Party is a sinking ship without a captain. They are quite amusing - no support for New Jersey, they have a Republican Governor, so obviously you have some supporters in that state, but when it comes to assisting them in tragedy, you instead screw them over! I hope other die-hard citizens who vote Republican are watching - this could be you! It's January, freezing, snow covering the ground and these people are still out in the ice and cold thanks to what has to be the most uncaring House ever in history! I'm sure if it were an oil corporation that needed saving, billions of US tax dollars would be on its way before you could say Alacazam!!!
By the way, the Republicans may have gotten it voted into law that Corporations are people - but they are not humans! They are giant conglomerates of wealthy individuals who care only about lining their own pockets at the expense of all else!
Christie is a liberal now? Hmmmm... good to know.
Continue feasting on your own.
Valhalla Phil
What part of broke do you liberal idiots not understand. We just added $4 trillion to the national debt and you want a pork laden bill with everything but the kitchen sink in it to sail through?
The bill would pay out over years and you idiots are wetting your pants over a few days? Pathetic.
OK Phil, and how the hell did we go broke? Bush got us into 2 wars on credit, & lowered the Clinton tax rates (Thus the Bush tax cuts), He then saw the pile of @!$%# and went oh wait I'd better do my own stimulus & gave the banks as well as his bud's on wall street the power to screw us 7 ways from Sunday.
Any President coming into that mess would have faced a budget shortfall/deficit and would had to have had raised the debt ceiling.
Bush Sr.: "Read my lips....No new taxes". Nine short months later an increase due to a war and economic slump (deficit).
As far as a few days....ask the business's and the people that can't work because oh the business's aren't there, and the people that have been waiting now for months, how they feel about a few more days.
My guess is if this was happening to you or someone you loved you'd not only wet yourself screaming you'd @!$%#
Most of you people make me sick. This problem is a creation of both parties. I am fed up with having to work my ass off so the fvcking government can take away the majority of what we earn and give it to people who don't feel like working- and don't think they don't! There are so many hidden taxes it would give you nightmares to see how much the federal government steals from us each year.
If a couple has one spouse that constantly spends money they don't have and does this uncontrollably despite repeated efforts of the other spouse to stop the out-of-control spending you are heading for disaster. How is it worse for a party to say "NO" than for a party to demand spiraling out of control spending with no effort to stop despite the fact that that party is bankrupting the country? You fvcking Democrats, with your unlimited entitlements, are dooming what was once the greatest country on earth. Not anymore now that the parasitic handout peoples are "in charge".
Why don't the Democrats try to be a little more fiscally responsible and get us out of debt? How about that? Despite the math showing that spending has got to get under control this moronic, megalomaniac president wants to spend even more. Well sure, he's got to make good on all those bribes he promised in order to win the election.
keep Blaming the GOP, We dont mind, the question has to be why is it we have to pay for everything, people had insurance, and where is this so called money coming from, This is Obama's katrina but NO ONE IS BLAMING HIM, you liberal retards you really need to take a hard look inside yourself. Do you really want to become a third world Country, because were heading that way. Concerned Veteran
shame on congress? you flippin kidding me! good for congress! why cant they put through a bill helping sandy victims with out all the other crap attached to it. all for helping out the people hert by this disaster but screw all the other crap in this bill. no wonder they cant get anything done someones always attaching hidden agendas.
Oh and who hasnt passed a balanced Budget yet, Oh yeah Thats the Senate and who is in Charge of the Senate, oh wait that would be reid and the democrats. you liberal make me sick, you are so anti American as it can go. well there will be a time when you have to choose a side, I choose America and freedom but right now you want Socialism which is a hop skip to communism. but hey you voted for it, oh check your receipts, OBAMACARE is a TAX and its on there now. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhAHAHA
So the story is about REPUBLICANS blaming other REPUBLICANS for this... and all the repubs on this board are trying to divert the conversation into blaming liberals.
The desperation from the conservatives here is hilarious. The GOP is eating their own, and you kids are trying so hard to blame liberals for it. But when your own party is this broken, I guess desperation takes over.
Wow. Just wow.
I hope Chris Christie runs for Pres in 2016. He'd have got my vote this past election if he ran. He seems like a cool dude.
Here's my idea: New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut can stop exporting surplus dollars to the south. Don't send the money in an emergency?
Fine, you don't get any for everyday expenses, then.
Throw the one party voters into the ocean!
@seymour-well said, and I am tired of hearing people say it's Bush's fault, getting into war and blah blah... War was declared on us on 09/11 and Bush was right on the weapons of mass destruction-they are all in Syria now. Bush was blamed for Katrina when it was the governors fault, but yet I don't hear anyone blaming Obama for Sandy. This country is in the mess it is in not because of Bush, but because of the lazy people in this country who don't want to go to work and because of those who try to live outside of their means spending more than they have coming in and too uneducated and too stupid to know how to live within their means-that is how this country got broke and now those same people want the hard working people to pay for their mess and their stupidity. We have a president who refuses to stop spending and has put us in more debt than any president in history has, where is the outrage for that! You liberals are about to see what you have done to this country and you are the blame this country is spiraling downward. It makes me sick to see how many uneducated people voted for Obama cause he's cute (barf), cause he's likable, most of those who voted for him don't even know what is going in this country, just sit around and smoke your marijuana cause that's what ya'll think is so important-what a future this country has-it's pathetic. Kids of today have no future-it's scary to see what will be running our country in the future.
Robert D. Clarkson ....
Maybe you ought to look at your party. Love your "leadership" telling Harry Reid to go f himself. Seems like your little apple didn't fall far from that tree. As for most of the people posting today, this is about country and doing what's best for it and for those affected by Sandy.
Never an original thought in your little pea-picker, just the same ol' crap, different day. Get over yourself.
Nobody is trying to blame the liberals, they are to blame. EVERY time they introduce a bill it is bloated with unnecessary extras called PORK. It has been this way with the liberals turds in washington for decades. If perhaps any of you armchair politicians or economists would ever get that through your heads, you might see where the real blame has always been. There is plenty to go around if the libtards would just rein in the spending just a little bit. For all of you conservatives who are swaying with the prevailing winds, just hold strong. We need to FORCE this unbelievably irresponsible congress to learn to control their out of contrtol frieght train like spending habits, and get this country on the path to strong fiscal policies. Perhaps if all of the liberal spin doctor tactics and their feel good for the people B.S. hadn't tempted them into using this as a means of siphoning just a few more billions from the coffers, then they would have had a bill that would have been passed and nobody would have been having this conversation.
Did any reasonable, educated person actually realize that high elected officials really give a rat's ass about us? They voted themselves an increase in pay then voted to make us pay for it.
If and when Iran does develope a nuclear weapon, I hope they drop it in the middle of the Capital Building. I will die of course as I am in close proximity to Washington and I am sure the chicken @!$%# lawmakers will be well out of harms way in their underground bunkers, but at least I will have solice in knowing that these bastards are a target from foreing soil. The start of the revolution.
So you don't like what you sheople voted for now? Here you go, your now really getting what you voted for, twice now. Shut up and enjoy your marxist ride!!! You have no room to bitch now, you were warned ahead of time, but you chose to ignore the truth about what is coming.
In my lifetime, I've known a lot of different people from many different walks of life. It has been my experience that the people whose work is physical are the ones who work the hardest. They are the ones that crawl under your car in an unheated garage on cold cement and sweat and struggle to take things apart and fix them and put them back on the car. They are the waitresses who work split shifts five or six days a week to feed their kids. Go ahead, you carry a heavy tray with a dozen fully loaded plates for nine hours a day and see if you're tired after spending all of those hours on your feet. They're the guys repairing your roof in hundred degree heat. They're the guys driving trucks for hours and hours in heavy traffic. They're all the people that do the hard labor and dirty jobs you don't want to do. They bust their butts and don't get any medical benefits and are treated like crap by people like you.
Most of the rich folks I've known take two hour lunches, go to symphony performances, schmooze with other rich guys so they can scratch each other's itch for more contracts, more money, more power. A whole lot of those rich folks don't really do much work at all. Their secretaries do the work and they take the credit. Half of them don't know what they're doing. They only have jobs because daddy knows someone at the top of the company food chain.
The rich guys I know who actually work for their money are not contemptuous of other people's hard work. They don't look down their noses at people who have to work at menial jobs. They treat the people who work for them with respect.
Only people who have always had it easy complain about those who have not. Walking a mile in the other man's shoes is always a good idea before judging him.
"Sorry Governor, but Mr. Speaker is weeping and locked in his bedroom. May I help you with some funny anti-Obama jokes instead?"
The reason why: "New York and New Jersey politicians unleashed unusually personal attacks against Boehner and other House Republicans" is because We, as in the U.S. help each other when a catastrophe strikes. And here we're talking about the most populated and (in part) most expensive area in our country.
Good luck GOP, you're failing even your own Party.
Gee, lilirocks, whatever does this being the most expensive area in our country have to do with anything? I'm truly curious.
If you are not in the top 2%, you are voting against your own self interest if you vote for any Republican. And now it sounds like some people in the top 2% even need help from government.
Where is your personal responsibility Republicans? I shouldn't have to bail you out because you ignored all the scientists who told you to get away from the coasts, and you stayed. I feel for the poor and uninsured, because typically they are the ones left to clean the mess and are more severely affected. I think the night time sky speaks volumes about NYC and where they put their priorities. Which building was the only one that still had lighting? Can you say, Goldman Sachs?
If once, just once a bill to fund disaster recovery would be written ONLY for the areas directly impacted we might see all parties agree to pass it. But when elected officials throw in allot of crap that is for their own benefit I have to support those not letting the bill be voted on. I'm tired of all of the non-disaster items being included in something that is so critical. Typical . . . use those in need as pawns for unrelated waste. I live in So CA and I can remember our last big quake and we didn't have Congress running around to help us. We got FEMA disqualifying people left and right even though we lost our homes. Things sure have changed, now everyone believe the Gov. should help everyone no matter what happens.
Oh stop shovelling the spontaneous-impulsive antiGOP bulls**t, D AntiX. Why should the government automatically start paying for everybody's damage in New Jersey...or anyplace else? Don't any of these people have homeowners or business insurance that should cover a lot of damage before the donations need to begin? And people in the 2% won't need help from the government because they are doers and achievers who take care of themselves and don't want to rely on somebody else for their well being. Oh, by the way, I'm not in the 2%, but I keep striving for it.
Where is Obama, he went for a photo ops , made promises to help them, now Obama is in Hawaii, but the victims of Sandy are still waiting. But anyway this bill is full of pork, like porkimulus Im glad Republicans do not pass a law without reading it.
underemployed speaks the truth. He should get a job as a political consultant (but that would make too much sense and would only happen in a perfect world).
Other than Governor Christie, I have yet to be convinced that any of our elected officials give a rat's a$$ about any of their constituents. Top down, regardless of political party. I'm not much for conspiracy theories but I'm certainly not drinking anybody's koolaid either. If any of us ran our personal finances the way the government handles the county's finances, we'd have all our assets seized and be thrown in prison. They're all at fault, President on down. They've become very good at taking care of their own interests and manipulating their media to stir us up against one another.
HEY!! DUMB ASS HONKIES.. can't get @!$%# done IF congress DOESN'T OK IT! HENCE the whole cliff deal BULL@!$%#!!!!!!
spider-737231
Was your question a serious one or you're just trolling here and begging for attention?
Regular workers in the NY area, as well as minimum wage, are subject to the region prices. The square footage in some very populated areas is $271 per. Add this to many millions concentrated in those areas, you get a few billions in damage. Are you alright? Do you need any help?
Democrats in Senate add 600 million dollars for EPA an many more millions for things that got nothing to Sandy, and now ignorants are parroting base on what other people say. Be educated, read the bill.
I have another perspective from those posting here. There is a thing called insurance - property, auto, homeowners, fire and flood. If you live in an area prone to flooding, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, etc., you should be properly insured. IMHO, FEMA should not exist, period! Federal money should only go to restore federally-owned property. The states should be responsible to have a rainy day fund to cover repairs needed to state-owned property. I do not live in a low lying area or on the beach, and I do not want to pay for other people's choices when mother nature deals a bad blow. Grow up and be responsible for yourselves.
Whoa there douglas oates. Dem dumb ass honkies be da ones dat pay da bills. Boy you sho nuff needs to sho sum appreciation. Den learn how to spell and compose a sentence that is near complete. You are a joke !
Let's see, Republicans never, ever load a bill with pork, LMFAO!!!!
Yeah. Just like your post.
Boy they sure are showing their patriotism, yeah their patriotism to the rich only!
Maybe Chrisite will turn Democrate after his own party just threw him and other Republicans under the bus. I sure hope all Republicans are watching just what your party is really all about, "the rich" and to h.... with the rest of you.
The time has come for this nation to have an impeachment party. Many members of Congress failed the American People and Nation last night by not agreeing to provide aid to the victims of Sandy's wrath.
Therefore, I believe that those who voted against such so late after the fact are unfit to fulfill their vow and responsibilities.
Forget about the up coming election IMPEACHMENT THEM NOW!
Told You So - I'm not sure why you think it's a good thing to delay this measure. Above you complained about appropriations for the Smithsonian.
From the bill (page 75)
"SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTION
5 SALARIES AND EXPENSES
6 For an additional amount for ‘‘Salaries and Ex
7 penses’’ for necessary expenses related to the consequences
8 of Hurricane Sandy, $2,000,000, to remain available until
9 expended: Provided, That such amount is designated by the
10 Congress as being for an emergency requirement pursuant
11 to section 251(b)(2)(A)(i) of the Balanced Budget and
12 Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985."
If the museum was damaged by this storm, it needs to be repaired. There's a provision regarding the storm. I read the bill and it seems to be fine as is. It's straight forward and there's nothing untoward about it. I'd like to see it on a spreadsheet without all the therefores and furthermores but I don't see any reason not to pass it. These people need help. Now.
think how much money the rich are saving by ignoring those poor and middle class republicans.poor and middle class republicans what in the world made you think you have anything in common with the rich that own that party.i expect the speaker to be given the boot anytime now.his masters got a tax increase.they dont tolerate failure
stand your ground ...dont let mother nature win...
FMA said they have enough for immediate needs yet everyone wants them to pass a bill filled with pork. Message received loud and clear. Fork out the borrowed money immediately, hard and heavy.
Why should the USA federal government provide any funds for private property? No way! Federal money should ONLY go to federal properties!!!!!!
There is a thing called i-n-s-u-r-a-n-e. If you build on the beach, you should expect damage with storms of any level.
Witchking
1/6 of said money was not for the sandy victims but for other things which should not have any bearing on this BUT the senate ear marked their funds for contributors of the Obama campaign. So tell us why we as citizens should pay for this and also help the sandy victims?? I do believe it would have passed if it where not for the extra 10 Billion added on. BUt then it is only our and my money, unless you do not contribute.
Please stop rewarding these elected officials by RE-ELECTING them over and over. They are simply ripping you off, working 1/3rd of the year and then voting themselves pay and benefit increases.
You tend to get the govt you created for yourself.
When will people stop blaming themselves and realize most politicians are the same, just the names are different and it doesn't much matter who is voted in by us. It's our system which allows the mess with which we are governed. Our "voting rights" are played up as some valuable gift allotted the little people; but in reality, are basically worthless.
too much icing on the cake ...time to dig a hole and eat the cake.
sillyshrinks
impeach them for?? not voting ?? I believe they will impeach everyone who voted against it last night. Opps no one voted get your cranial cavity removed from you anal orifice.
"Rep. Darrell Issa (R-California) defended Boehner’s move, blaming the Senate for padding the relief package with non-essential funding.
“The Senate didn’t do their job. They sent us a bunch of pork, and then left town,” he said on “Fox and Friends.”"
I find this whole statement by a politican revolting when you consider every politican adds "pork" to every bill they get..both houses, both parties. I doubt that is very few if any bills ever passed that did not have "pork" tied to it in some way.
As a person who can give, I sent money to several organizations for aid to the storm's vitamin. I am totally against any tax payer's money going to any aid other than federal owned properties.
I will vote against any Rep or Senator that voted in favor of any money going to private property owners. If you cannot afford the price of insurance, then you cannot afford the cost of owning the property. Self responsibility!!!
Debi-1314897
Obama gave them the raise not the Congress
Just watch the Republican votes go away the next four years.
The Republican Party is finished! They are the sick minds they talk about..
What a BS article. I live in NY and the hurricane had personally affected, thankfully not in any serious way. But why does everything that comes out of congress have to be loaded with pork??? I am sure if that wasn't the case then it would have been approved by now. MSN how about some journalism and report a well-rounded factual story...enough of the bias.
rocky:
Sorry, I forgot to put the italics around the first two sentences of my post. They were someone else's statement, not mine.
Thanks for allowing me to clarify.
What needs to be asked is how the bill went from $33B in aid to $60B in aid. How did they pork barrel all of the other crap in the aid package?
@Homer Adams
You are exactly correct. Are Americans to depend on the charity of other Americans for all their needs? Is flood insurance & property insurance not available for these folks? No, they just wanted to spend their money on fancy cars and jewelery. It is not up to government to take care of this matter, only Federal property.
@Dave Simpson
You better hope the Dems don't have control of the House. We would all be living in the streets due to their reckless spending to gain votes. They are the twisted ones who can't get a grip on the countries financial problems. Sad.
i got slammed by Sandy ,but the only thing i got from FEMA was a" FEMA BONE !" as they dick you around promising everything then give you nothing but headaches and paperwork trail ,cost me another $50.00 just to get around to them just do the paperwork just to tell you a month later your getting nothing or appeal for it ! ,its who you know that you will get paid ,there was rich people who shouldn't have gotten a dime,but they got 10's to hundreds of thousands of dollars ,also they had $190 million to pay the NYPD ,WTF the taxes already pay those bums ,they double dip without paying the victims ,its all bull@!$%#
The problem with this is that the DEMOCRATS, yes those weird folks, decided that this was a chance to hide stupid money garnering for other things. This bill had very little to do with helping the victims of this storm but a way for them to ad pork to it. Those of you that are stupid democrats need to figure this out. Most of this bill went to pork not to victims.
I hope they do pass it then all you that say how bad republicans are for not voting. Make sure you keep track of where that money is going. Then in two years when all those victims are still looking to rebuild still. I want to see what you have to say. That Chris Christy is a democrat in republican clothes. All that money is going for all their cronies!
One has to wonder if this is pay back, for the majority re-electing President Obama. Or is about the Republicans pledge to Grover Norquist. I am from Ohio. I am proud of our state. Unfortunately, we turned out bawling baby, named John Boehner, who cannot or will not, stand up for his fellow Americans.
I am happy to share the wealth. Not that I have any! Most of my fellow buckeyes are generous, giving people, who want to see every one succeed. We want every one to have a chance. We want all of our children to be fed, educated, and sheltered. We want our children to have a sense of respect and responsibility and the learn good parenting.
The only way these goals can be achieved is, by making sure all classes, ethnicity's and religions; in all fifty states, receive the revenue, to succeed.
I have seen Governor Christie be eloquent and caring. I have also, seen him be rude and obnoxious. Hurricane Sandy may have taught him something he did not know before, President Obama is a sincere and caring man. Maybe Governor Christie saw what truth and honor really look like. He was able to see beyond the elitist and egotistical, personalities of the party, in which he belongs.
I admit, I am beginning, to like Governor Christie because he is showing leadership and compassion for the people, he vowed to represent. If only Boehner and Cantor would do their jobs, instead of follow the money, they might understand what the majority of Americans want, equality.
The Governor of New Jersey, Chris Christie has the potential, to earn the respect, of the majority, of Americans. To all of you "NAY SAYERS" , in Washington, drop the pooper scoopers, you use, to follow behind the greedy and selfish ninny-hammers. Do your jobs! This is not about you or your followers. This is about your fellow Americans! Get the lead out and send the aide the victims of hurricane Sandy. NOW!
DZ1900---Best question of the day, the problem is no one wants to know that. Big money for the fund but no accountability, best friend a politician could have. How about someone tell me why there is two packages? They want 9 billion for this year but want to lay out 60 billion for three years. I say they will give the 9 billion and loose the rest.
maryp i hope you dont get any bumps on your head from beating it against the wall! i dont think they understand common sense
How long will $60 Billion last in this effort?
What will it buy?
Who gets the money?
Why do they get it?
If the answer is no insurance, why is that my problem?
I am very sad these folks have this problem however we as a country are broke and must one day become frugal with other peoples money. How many nations have we helped when disaster struck and are we gonna remember this when we run to the aid of everybody else?
Washington is dysfunctional!
No "bill" passes without EARMARKS or PORK for the vote!
dont you just wish there was a party that represented the average american,wanted smaller government, less regulations,fiscally conservative,socially liberal and did something like ending free trade to raise our standard of living.BIG GOVERNMENT{the democrats}THE RICH{the republicans}THE MIDDLE CLASS{.....}
At last, we are bearing witness to the disintegration of the Republican Party, which,already is in shambles.
The GOP has Chutzpah, in having bellied up to the taxpayer trough every time, and very quickly, when Hurricanes,Oil Spills, Droughts,Tornadoes,Floods and locusts do damage to Republican States. And a unified Congress has always quickly come to the aid of GOP majority states....yet the Republicans have pulled back, and refused, like little sissies to aid Democratic leaning states.
This,all but insures that Chris Christie will NOT be re-elected as a Republican, perhaps he will defect..he seems like a straight shooter,and I don't see how he can stay with those nuts on the right. Do you ?
http://www.constitution.org/cons/constitu.htm
there is nothing in the US constitution that grants the federal government the ability to just hand out tax-payer money to states for disaster relief unless it affects national security which in this case does not. a lot of those areas are affluent with high taxes so why are they crying for money from other states? see the issue some of us have with this?these areas effected have lots of money to spend frivolously in the good years and bad but when it comes to spending on what they really needs (disaster relief/infrastructure) they ask for handouts from other states (federal government). this is not the job of the federal government, the can provide logistical oversight and additional security but thats about it in cases like this. the federal government also has no authority to give states money for state matters, thats up to the states to make budgets and the states would pay taxes to the government, government can only give tax-payer monies to states to pay for government programs/institutions, not state. if a state needs money from the federal government in order to operate then it is not a state anymore. you people do understand that a state is its own country? same definition. the federal government is like a project manager for all our states but by itself is nothing and owns nothing, if the federal government didnt exist then each state would be its own sovereign country by default -with a lot of green eyes.
read the US constitution and read each of our founders writings to get the truth. all of them would be ashamed and disappointed with how this country currently is and has been with regards to the constitution and society, maybe a couple would be saying "i told you so."
all societies in history have been enslaved at some point, its just a matter of timing, so dont think the USA wont succumb. its natural to want to conquer, basic predator instinct that we all have and some use, history tells all of this.
old fat guy-1144960
Why you must be an unpatriotic SOB for asking such questions. Don't you know that when the word "emergency" is used no one is supposed to ask but rather just act without thought?
The reality is that only 1/3 of the 60 billion dollars was for immediate use. Some of the money wasn't even going to be spent this year. ANYONE who thinks this should have been rushed through is a @!$%#ing idiot and can look in the mirror the next time they want to bitch at someone about how @!$%#ed up our government is because you are the ones enabling it.
National parks have signs that say "don't feed the bears". We needs signs all over that say "Don't feed the republicans". If you stop feeding them with votes, they WILL go away.
George, your comment about the bears is truer than you know. Those signs are there so that you don't get the bears dependant on handouts. When they get dependant they stop fending for themselves, people are the same way.
WAIT
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your town's stores and schools closed
your photos
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It's evident that lefty posters on this site and NBC are trying to bring down the GOP through their ridiculous socialist, communist, marxist rants and accusations... This bunch of leftist a-wholes are continuing the assault on the constitution and keep pushing for government control over almost every aspect of our lives... That's communism, folks. Commentor 1.121 has got it absolutely right!
The pork in that "rescue" bill doubled the cost from $30B to $60B... but that isn't enough to bother the tax and spend leftist democraps... Our nation is in deep doo doo if these jackass dems keep puffing up the budget and blaming the GOP for the disasterous results... They blew out the housing market by allowing deluded families to purchase homes they couldn't afford... They refused to come up with a vote on the budget until the 11th Hour, and ramrodded a piss poor bill that does nothing to solve our fiscal problems. It's time to wipe the floor with dems and their destructive ilk! Kick their lying, cheating, disingenuous butts out of the White House and Congress and get some sanity back into governing this country. Obama! Out! Reid! Out! Pelosi! Out!
It doesn't matter what the party affiliation is; it's difficult to believe ANYONE still has the ignorance or the audacity to defend our failed and corrupt so called representatives.
@Tony D-373561
Look closer and concentrate. In this particular article, it's actually the GOP, not "leftist @@@"(refrain from abuse), who are "trying to bring down the GOP through their ridiculous socialist, communist, marxist rants and accusations"???.
Get a grip on reality and grow a pair.
What about shame on MSNBC ?
Yes, the disaster victims deserve relief, but why does MSNBC take the side of Democrats with nearly every article they write ?
Hello MSNBC, 1% of the popular vote ring a bell ?
Their too busy passing an Amnesty for criminals and trying to disarm law abiding citizens, to help Americans in need.
stymie
How ignorant can you be? It is the Republicans who are blocking Americans in need .... the same Republicans who oppose reasonable gun laws and reasonable immigration policies.
Your ignorance shows in your very first word. It should be "they're," as in "they are" ..... not their. Illiterate and ignorant is a bad combination.
Of course had this storm affected areas where these gop'ers lived it would be an entirely different outcome
I hope all Americans REMEMBER this in 2016 when we elect again. I'm thinking about beginning a journal of Republican atrocities. What a bunch of 3 year olds.
I suffered much damage to my home and I don't think the government was cause. It would be nice if they could pitch in and help, and they will when the pork is taken out of it and there will be more for the victims.
Annie-I hope all Americans REMEMBER this in 2016 when we elect again.
True! There are house and senate seats in the Sandy affected area in Republican hands,WHY? They've shown they hate the Blue States. You need to turn them out in 2014,and elect people that actually support the American people. If any Republican,like King and Christie,want to keep their jobs,they need to switch parties,or become Independent. America can't afford to have the Party of NO in Government.They are destroying our country.
... well if that's the case, Representative Issa; then why don't you do your job and line out the statistically insignificant examples of "pork" that have set your hair on fire and send the amended bill back to the Senate? It never occurs to these clowns that the Senate might have just been attaching some small non-pork items to the bill in order to get them done in a timely fashion. But if that's still beyond their comprehension, they could have easily fixed this.
Annie, we won't need to wait that long. The House of Representatives offices become contested in 2014, not 2016.
EDIT: Ooops somebody else made the correction while I was posting.
Boehners actions are proof that all those tears he sheds are ONLY for the top 2-percent filthy rich!!! Hypocrite spineless disgusting heartless scum bag!
I like Christie but didn't he a lot of negative things to say about Obamas 1st term as president and when his state needs the $ he goes on a nice walk around to assess the damage. Now he starts complaining about the GOP not supporting a state bailout. Gov.Christie, either you are for limited government or your not. Just because every other state puts in for federal aid does not mean you should. Where is our federal government getting this money anyway? Trillions in debt whats another 60 million? Is NY still waiting as well? How about Conn.? It seems having ones hand out is no longer limited to the poor in America. As long as it gets you re-elected pride is not even an issue.
If the democrats REALLY cared about these victims, they would not try to wrap the bill full of BS spending.
Some of that "pork" was attached to Republican areas in order to win the votes of the Republican senators who wouldn't vote for disaster relief unless there was something in it for them.
Hopefully by 2016 we will have done away with Bibles and God altogether.
Oh I am sorry I forgot to mention that by 2016 we can do away with Bibles, God, and Republicans altogether.
Oh I apologize once again...I forgot to mention that by 2016 we can do away with Bibles, God, GOP and paying our debts. Yea Baby. This should also include working citizens...just keep raising the credit card limit and spend like a frenzy. I am in love with this. Wow I am finally catching on.
Wow I have a great addition to the plans above. Just have a President and a military with a sidekick white teethed Joe Biden and they can make all the laws and discard all the laws they want. Meanwhile give them power to run as many terms as they like. Obama can go for 30 years and if Biden isn't to old he and Obama can vote Biden in for 15 years. What a great plan and we can allow the US debt to go over 300 Trillion dollars and eliminate the military altogether. Yea what a great plan. Looks like we are in agreement on this one.
Donald, this article is about the GOP delaying a vote for a couple days, I don't see any reference to that in your comments. Your posts make about as much sense as saying "the NFL decided to cover all head-trauma medical costs for former players, wow they might as well bulldoze the half the stadiums and require all fans to wear cheese heads and only allowed to root for the Patriots." You're taking something small that is beneficial to Americans who need help, running off on about 7 tangents, and saying it will turn our country into a dictorial environment. Reality misses you, come back.
so do you think that we should spend the extra 10 billion on non sandy items then??
Yes I think we should spend 10+ billion on extra initiatives that improve our country in the long run. Google United States Foreign Aid and then tell me how much you think 10 billion is? Has the United States of America sank so low that we can't renovate one of the country's greatest landmarks, a building filled with more patriotism and history than arguably any other location in the U.S? I believe America can still do great things, don't you? Maybe we cut our aid to Pakistan for a month to help Americans? As for the other "pork" tell me how climate measures are non-Sandy items, and I'm not preaching about global warming and that humans are to blame, even Romney said "Climate change is real, we just don't have the data to know what's causing it." Some of the pork was added per Republican request so they would gain something like those silly dems who somehow make a correlation between the climate destroying that area and the climate change initiatives they want. That's how this works and that's how it has always worked. How dare the dems ask for funding to save fisheries in Alaska and Mississippi, those are red states the dems should stay out of their business. Who cares if Americans have access to seafood or not, America has no greatness left anymore, remember? The issue here is the non-vote, a democracy shouldn't cancel a vote because the person in power of scheduling the vote doesn't want to vote "yes" and knows everyone else will.
Hope you have alot of paper (or alot of ram).
Jon Stewart had to shame the GOP in congress into passing a bill to compensate 911 first responders.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYH0HD2CpXQ
Hypnotoad!
Everybody loves hypnotoad.. Obey. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX6s-9hv800
This is absolutely pathetic. What a pitiful excuse for a political party the Republicans are.
Goodbye and good riddance to the GOP in the 2014 midterms.
ahh yes lets all just throw money around like its made of paper and backed by nothing -oh wait, thats exactly how its is lol. do you even listen to yourself? whose money do you think it is that is being spent? sure the fk aint the governments. what value is getting trashed every time we add to the debt? US dollar.
the federal government does not own this country, it does not own our currency, it owns nothing and is nothing without state support and the public to back it, they are the equivalent of managers we pay to do a job under contract of the US constitution, thats it and they do it horribly.
the states have their own tax base and if they cannot prepare/rebuild after a predictable storm then i feel ashamed to have them part of this union and pissed that they keep asking for money after every severe storm. not my duty to keep giving you money because you choose to live where you do, i would not be asking you for money so dont ask me.
Looks like socialism is a good thing when it benefits you . But not when it benefits someone else .
NO KIDDING!! mike soooooo true
American's Help American's.. Do you follow that GOP? Get off your a$$e$ and help these people get their life back to normal, If you can't do that then go home and don't come back because no one wants you to work or so called work for the people!! GOP NO more stalls like you just did this last week, people are tired of this drama you guys call policy!!!
I forgot to add that they had no problem with getting their raise did they!! Real POS GOP!!!
That bill is full of pork, environmental program monies, global warming initiatives and very little for the victims of huricanes. I'm glad the GOP is still discussing it more and plan to hack out the pork before signing it. Quit exploiting those vitims for monitary gain for special interest programs
Your prez ok'd the pay raise -- time for him to take responsibility....oh wait, he's a dem and they never take any responsibility always blame it on someone else. Talk about 3 yr olds, you lapdogs are nothing but hypocrites! Remove the pork and they'll get the money. By the way it's a STATE problem, they need to take care of themselves -- WE ARE BROKE
The raise which the president signed in as an executive order was voted down by the GOP - ModelTrainMan.
Prayers go out to the ModeTrainMan who actually never read the bill.
The Teaparty and any other members of the GOP who have vowed to oppose the President at any cost, down to and including abandoning the victims of Sandy, are guilty of sedition. They should be impeached and then arrested. Please check out the definition of sedition.... it perfectly describes the actions of these congressional fascists. Everyone who voted for them is also to blame but voters are often short sighted and selfish. This isn't healthy debate and isn't about politics. These people will destroy America if we can't figure out a way to get them out of any position of authority.
Guilty of Sedition? That would be mountainlady. The victims deserve more than the 12% of the monies allocated to them in that Bill. Stop your democrat "bot" directive of senseless name calling on the concervatives and write your congress to approve a larger amount for them in the negotiations.
It is mighty hard to reply when the McDonald's ad takes up the entire area. To the two Goverenors, now you know how we feel about the arrogant Republicans that we have representing us. Or should I say not representing us?
@mountainlady-just like Obama should be impeached and arrested for abandoning 4 Americans killed in Benghazi! Do you really think Obama gives a damn about these people in NJ? He went for a visit there after the storm right before the election for a political picture to make himself look good and now it is all over. People in NOLA are still trying to recover from Katrina, so these people need to get over it, do for themselves and get their sh*& together just like NOLA had to do.
This is the real Obama....Those of you who voted for him and his administration should be in line for the hand outs.......dont tell me that along with the Obama phones you have computers too.....with internet....Stop the Madness!!!!!!!!! Chris Christy is a demo, Fat from the head to toe, and will be shuned forever as the piece that he is.
Apply for a job and not for assistance!
Sorry Dottie, but the President does not set salaries or approve raises, not even for himself. This is a spending function and spending is controlled by the House. At least according to that pesky Constitution you tea partiers like to worship (at least on part).
The House is controlled by the GOP and the GOP is controlled by the Tea Party. Apparently, the teabaggers have no problem increasing theor own salaries or paying for their own healthcare or their own pensions. They don't even pay into Social security. Try the facts instead of FAUX propaganda.
ToldYouSo - you are missing the real issue.
Where's the communication and coordination within the Republican Party? How could the vote be pulled and Republicans be caught by surprise? The party is in complete and total disarray!
Also, your comment that only 12% of the money from the bill is going to Sandy relief is simply wrong. That either makes you a fool or a liar. Those aren't insults, they are simply facts based on your own posts.
The Senate nor the house did not pass the pay raise.
Regarding the pay raise you all seem to think the GOP voted in, Obama signed an executive order lifting the pay freeze last week and that would take effect on 3/1/2013 had the House not voted to re-freeze the pay increases. Good grief, do a little research before you come on here just to slam the GOP. It's your slimeball Obama that did that. And also notice when you find the list of what the new salaries were to be, they all stayed under his proposed $250,000 to be affected by tax increases.
Chris 854277 - Have you read the bill they wouldn't sign yet? I have posted the link for you. Please do some research. I have not called you or anyone any names and I only ask you do the same.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr1eas/pdf/BILLS-112hr1eas.pdf
Actually, I did ... did you? I am thinking you just skimmed it and then thought were an expert.
12% of $60 Billion is $7.2 Billion. So according to your idiotic post, the bill has $52.8 Billion in non-Sandy related expenses. Seriously?
Why don't you list where the other $52.8 Billion is going? That would actually require you to do a little more than cut and paste a link. It would also actually require you to think.
So put up or shut up - moron.
GOP at it's finest moment, the true GOP shows it colors, wake up America. And now they are planning on holding the debit ceiling hostage, it's time our voices are heard loud and clear. They do not represent America, they represent themselves and the rich only.
ToldYouSo- Thanks for the link
Called my Rep after reading it and told him what a boondongle it is, he agreed. Paul Ryan.
ToldYouSo.....I just read the bill and if I am correct there are a lot of section that disbuse the money to several different agenies. All are related to or dealing with coastal storms of 2012 including Hurricane Sandy. Even if you say it was full of pork this is a matter to be dealt with now, not when the speaker feels it should be. It took me a few minutes to read through the whole thing and I believe congressman have staffers to read through it for them. I not for any party but the speaker was really wrong on this one and it most likely will come back to bite him and cost the party later. Face it.....the speakers leadership skills really stink and he MUST be replaced or the dems will control everything in 2 years.... Think about it.
told you so-there's no sense trying to talk sense to a leftie leaning douche,they do not read or investigate anything but these news articles before they spew. i personally am glad they didn't vote this PORK LADEN BILL in,but am also disappointed that the repubs caved on the "fiscal cliff" scare tactic and voted in the taxes without the SPENDING CUTS part of that fiascoe. meanwhile these fools are screaming "get something done" blaming repubs when the repubs had already agreed on the tax portion days before, the dems didn't want the spending cuts"we can do that later" that very same thing was done two years prior to this false cliff warning when they extended bushes tax cuts(that helped the poor too)because the dems didn't want to REDUCE SPENDING. smoke and mirrors are what dems are good at, they got their way on the taxes and they didn't have to pass meaningful spending cuts,that won't be taken care of either,there will be another bill they try to shove down our throats that repubs will reject(thank god they READ THEM before passing them,unlike our democratic representation)and back to square one!
Keep drinking the cool aid dtrx. It served the republicans so well in the November election, so please, have another great big glass!
all the "Pork " that is associaited with this bill should be recognized by their authors and removed. I'm sure the Smithsonian needs a new roof however it should be in an appropriate bill.
I think I also remember that when Joplin MO was devestated by tornados that Mr cantor did not want relief to that area either
Listen to the video. Rep King said that those items were all removed from the House bill that was to be voted on.
The "pork" isn't the issue. Most people agree that it should be eliminated and funds ONLY go for damage directly related to Sandy.
The issue is that the House walked out -- led by its "leader".
I seem to remember that to... Can't Do Cantor is a snake!!!
What you ask for was already done. The $60B bill was cut into two pieces - a barebones $27B aid bill and a $33B amendment containing all the "pork". This was done specifically so House Republicans could send the aid while still looking like they wanted to cut spending. And they still walked out.
Thanks, I'm at work and didn't have a chance to watch the video, just recalling other articles I had read on this
yeahbuhwha: who broke the bill into 2 separate parts, The House or Senate?
Oh Boo Hoo to all of you in New Jersey!! So you need to wait a day to get the House to approve your money. Your Governor is glad to make a political statement out of the little delay, but not for your benefit, but his own...because that is who he is. Texas is still waiting for the President to show some support for the people on the Texas border, but we are still waiting...why is that you say, because the President doesn't like Texas. You will get your money, Texas will not get its support and more people will die because of the Federal governments lack of support for border security, than died from your storm. I truly am sorry the storm happened, but get real NJ.
The House never took up the bill at all and so the "pork" could not have already been removed. As for Rep. King, he loves pork as long as it is for his state. If King were serious, he would offer an amedment to actually identify and remove the prok spending but he won't.
Mike430 - Pork has been a fact of life for congresses going back decades. I am not saying it is right, but both parties are responsible for it, and the GOP suddenly wants to address it now?
Doesn't the GOP have a PR company (or maybe common sense) to tell them now is probably not the best time to pick that fight?
Hey Texan1955 - wasn't it your state that wanted to seceed when Prez. Obama won?
I sure wish they would HURRY the HE_LL up and go. Then maybe we can get down to doing the people's business. Oh and the people that had flood insurance can't get it.
See this is what is wrong, people refuse to read and go to other news sources. They go to ONE source and then stick their heads in the sand or up their own behinds.
I don't blame Texas nor any other state that wants to get away from this mess. The problem we have is they want all the pork and spending they can get. The underlying factor that no one seems to get here is you, me and all the rest of the commentators here are picking up the tab. We, republicans, democrats and liberals need to quit blaming each other and concentrate getting rid of the lot. One term only, they pay into social security, if they miss that day of work they don't get paid. They each would fall under Obamacare. Their retirement pension would be on what they paid in. Then we would see some balances and checks because no lobbying for their pet projects paying into their campaign funds. You would then see not too many want to run for political seating. We the people have allowed them to keep screwing us. No body bothers to keep educated on what they are up too.
To all of you from NY or NJ or Conn. Texan 1955 does not speak for all of Texas. As a proud Texan myself, I don't want to trivilize the disaster that has taken your homes away from you. Please don't judge my whole state for one idiot.
Comment # 6 deleted, derail.
Katrina in New Orleans, Rita in Texas. Tornadoes in Joplin and Tuscaloosa. The Democrats and Republicans have supported disaster aid spending on a multitude of occasions. The GOP leadership has demonstrated their true shamefulness. Shame on all of them. May the republicans never have the senate or White House for the next 100 years!
I want to know where all that money thats been donated went to? We have seen concert after concert to raise money. Im sure the homeowners had insurance. It would be nice if we had an endless supply of money. I suggest people in New YORK do like they did in Nasville and take care of their own. After all obama doesnt seem to be to worried now that the election is over. He may send in a text message from Hawaii urging them to pass it but thats about all you going to get from him hes on vaction.
High rolla...............What the F are you talking about? Obama has told them to pass the bill and give Sandy people relief. And he's not in Hawaii. Are you on drugs? Oh, I get it............you're a Republican!!! You want us to forget what you basstards are doing and blame the President. You fing twit.
He is in Hawaii fool he took off late last night. Like I said he sent them a text message but make no mistake about hes soaking uo the rays right about now.
High rolla, I'm sure any normal person would want to resume their vacation after having to come back to deal with a bunch of 3 year old teapartiers trying to ruin the country.
I know one easter I had 4 days off well my wifes granny died and we spent My entire vaction dealing with that. Well that Monday I had to go back to work i was not allowed to take another vaction. See us regular folks cant just take off anytime we want of course for some reason Obama made like he could relate to regular folks. Well the only people I know that can jet off to anywhere they want are peoplE like Mitt Romney. So it looks to me like Obama isnt relating to us regular folks after all.
High rolla..............Maybe you should have gone to college and become president. Oh, you're not smart enough to do that. No kidding.
High rolla............And as far as Obama being the same as Romney.............I haven't heard yet that Obama wants to stick things up women's hooha's against their will. Have you????
All I know is only the top 1% get to do stuff like that. I will tell you the difference when Obama does it we taxpayers pay for it. Now dont get me wrong I think all politicians are scumbags but I just have to laugh at the fact that all we heard was how Romney couldnt relate and how Obama could.
He relates to me High rolla. If you're unhappy, why don't you go and give Romney a phone call, and see if he wants to talk to you. Really, High rolla. Obama hasn't done anything other presidents have done as far as things like vacations...........in fact Dubya took lots more vacations. AND he got us into two wars that cost us trillions, and we're still paying. But, LET ME GUESS, you loved old Dubya, didn't you. People like you should go back under your rock.
High rolla............the House closes down for a week every month even when Congress is in session. They don't return even in an emergency. The GOP shut down the House altogether last week and they hold debate and voting only 3 days a week. Talk to the GOP about doing their job. As for visits to Hawaii, Obama will never match the monthly Bush visits to Crawford TX let alone the two weeks bush spent in beijing watching the Olympic games rather than using the TV. Imagine the hotel costs for his entourage. No complainst then !
Hey SoSicoftheGop, Obama went back to Hawaii about midnight last night. On our dime, so he could be reunited with his Moochelle.
HEY TEXAN....I thought YOU mother@!$%#kkers wanted to declare yourselves seperate from the union ? what happened? need a negra's help? HONKIES ARE EVIL!!!!!!!
Say now thats not a very nice way to talk.
I have never seen anything in these vines that insulted or slandered Laura Bush. You talk about liberals and democrats being nasty, but the things the right wing says about the wife and daughters of the President are disgusting, distasteful and clearly illustrate their lack of common decency. You will never persuade me that you have a legitimate political position so long as you insist on being so hateful to the President's family. You're disgusting.
This article actually made me cry. Our politcal system is so messed up that our elected officials cannot even remember what their jobs are. People - our citizens - are homeless, devastated, empty, and our elected officials cannot see that. It is really a very sad day in America.
Why is this surprising? Unless it affects the Republicans directly, they do not care about anyone else. Maybe if one of them lost a child in Connecticut , gun control would be a consideration. The devastation in New Jersey and Staten Island should be our first consideration now in terms of repairing the country and helping those taxpayers. On one of his shows, Jon Stewart remarked to Chris Christie that the Republicans are more than willing to accept help (i.e. Sandy) but when it does not directly affect them, they vote against it. Christie unconvincingly denied it. Unless they need Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, rebuilding after a disaster, the Republicans are not interested. Boehner walking off the floor last night without this vote is apalling. And now they want to ruin Obama by not agreeing to pay the bills they voted for - the debt ceiling. Immoral.
as an independent, i would like to know how many billions
were in the bill that had nothing to do with sandy recovery?
Probably aboput 50%. What's more relevant is that only $9 billion is needed for costs to be paid in 2013. Approve that and take up the rest this year............and handle the pork spending separately.
Less than one-half of 1%. Bet you dollars to donuts it was put in to get GOP votes.
xander4, approximately $9 Billion could be connected directly to the damage done by Sandy. $51 Billion had no direct connection to Sandy's damage.
Of the $9 Billion, less than half would be directed to personal property relief.
Believe if you read the bill and take out all the stuff not specific to damage done by Sandy(not including any preventive stuff, as that was not there before) and replacing only $1 for $1 damage not covered by private insurance, less than $2.7 Billion would be used to help individuals.
you are 100% correct robwi,wish my other fellow americans were as aware of what is going on in this country,less of the BAD REPUBLICANS or BAD DEMOCRATS and lets take the country back by actually finding out what they are doing in washington(instead of throwing hate back and forth,i have democrat friends AND republican friends,find out the specifics BEFORE you unleash the dragons on each other!
LOL. I'm glad some of the bad bahavior by the repubs is finally coming back to bite their on their gigantic butts. I think I understand why the did it: this will increase the debt and some of them don't want to be seen viting to increase that without some cuts to balance it. However, Boehner's behavior was inexcusable and rude. At least he should have the cajones to say why he wasn't allowing it to be voted on.
Speaking of Boehner, so what did he really say to McConnell when he called him a dictator? Did he use the F word or what? Regardless that is typical of the Repubs. They think it's ok to call the president a traitor or UnAmerican or anything else disgusting, but ok to yell "You lie!" during his speech, give the finger to the Majority leader (remember crazy Cheney) and now Boehner thinks he can just cuss McConnell, since that is ok? I guess that they think they can treat others rudely, but oh no, if someone is rude to them, they go ballistic. I've seen this too many times to think it just an exceptional happening. It's a pattern and goes along with their idea that they are Royalty and have to be treated in an exceptional way, but they can treat the "commoners" any way they want and get away with it. But I think it is finally coming back on them...finally!
It was Harry Reid(D), Senate Majority Leader, that Boehner said it to. Mitch McConnell is a Republican like Boehner. I can't repeat it on these forums, but yes, he used that word. You can read about the incident here, which was confirmed by multiple sources:
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/the-fiscal-cliff-deal-that-almost-wasnt-85663.html
hahaaha,you say the republicans don't want to cut spending? hahahaaha what about the "fiscal cliff" delays? the repubs didn't want to pass it WITHOUT the spending cuts that were necessary,i recall it happened two years ago when the dems just agreed to extend bushes tax cuts(that helped the poor too,contrary to belief) because they didn't want to address....you guessed it! SPENDING CUTS! they didn't want to cut spending so they agreed to keep bushes tax cuts rolling....to a future date(2 yrs.) which now the repubs have caved and signed the tax portion WITHOUT the spending cuts portion. or have you no memory? we can do that later,i think i heard that a few years ago too! how funny(not)
I dunno' f%$# sure describes Harry Reid to me....
True Christian Values and Good Moral standing!
I will change to the repub party for how to live the christian life!
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LOL!! Rebub and Christian life have nothing in common anymore. Quite the opposite, actually.
GOP and christian are now oxymorons.....
hate to break it to you guys,but i'm republican( i believe that one should work for what you want AND i care about my fellow man) and i have probably taken in and fed more homeless people then i can count,and helped them get back on their feet and self sustainable. the key is SELF susainable, i also believe we should take care of those that cannot(elderly that already worked their life,ssi is not a handout..never was, and the infirm, single moms who are damned if they do and damned if they don't work)so how is republican unchristian? i would like some input as to how i can become more christian in your eyes,how many people have you helped where it has hurt you financially? and i've been hurt financially but knew it would only be for a little while and then i could get back to my life after my fellow man was back up on his feet.(and it should be fellow men because i have helped others to my hurt for over thirty years and am not gonna stop now if i hear that knock on the door. so please tell me what is unchristian about republicans and be specific so i can correct those attributes thank you
2013 - Stop paying your Federal & State Income tax. they can't put all of us in jail. plus they will not
have the money.
If you have a checking or savings account in a bank, they will put a lien on them and deny you any access to the money until the tax is paid. If you receive your earned income in the form of a check, they will put a 15% lien on that also on top of what the laws say to deduct automatically until the tax is paid. If you own a home or vehicle, they can confiscate that also and sell it. They probably won't come after you if you don't file by April 15th. they already have your money and they will file for you with no deductions.
LOL, go ahead and try that and see what happens. You might not get arrested, but you'll have your bank accounts frozen and all your assets seized. Good luck!
Well, nothing like getting the shaft to find out what your fellow Republicans really think, right Mr King? They never cared about you or your district and the people you represent. Gov Christie found out how much Republicans cared when they blasted him for dropping politics during a critical time in his state. Now that elections are over, the Republicans aren't even pretending to care about the blue states of NJ, NY and CT. You Republicans in those states just learned a lot about your fellow party members...
I think it is about time for the Real Republican Party to step up to the plate. Rep. King, please look around for all the like minded Northern States Republicans who feel that the reign of the Tea Party should end. Then take this group of Sane Republicans over to the democratic side to talk to some Conservative Democrats. Then get to work framing some really good Bi-partisan Legislation. If enough Republicans start voting with the Democratics after haggling on the bills, then Rep. King you could have the power to help you constituents. Let Boehner stew, with 218 votes you don't need him to bring legislation to the House floor for votes. You could set the agenda.
It doesn't work that way. Boner schedules what can and can't be voted on. Yoiu can't bypas the speaker regardless of your support.
tag,
If 17 or 18 alienated disenfranchised republicans switched to the democratic party Boehner would no-longer be the Speaker.
And you think both parties are to blame for not beiing able to work together. Think again. There is only one party of No!
and one party of spend spend spend!
Spend spend spend? You mean like fighting two wars off the books, and adding the largest entitlement ( unfunded) since Social Security? That would be the Republicans. They don't give a rats behind about spending, they care about controlling it.
Congress including Hillary Clinton voted for the Iraq wars.
ToldYouSo, ..."and one party of spend, spend, spend "?
Please, stop Bashing Bush, he could not help it that the republican Congress forced a no-limit credit card upon him to pay for his two senseless wars, tax cuts for the rich, no-bid contracts for Cheney's Haliburton or Medicare part-D which transfers taxpayer dollars to private insurance companies.
Please, Bush and the republican controlled Congress are gone, so let by-gones be by-gones..
No one forced Bush and Gingrich to borrow money for the wars. They wanted to make sure that tax rate cuts were given to the wealthy. The GOP borrowed the war funds and Cheney himself said that "deficits don't matter".
So here we go. We can't learn by the mistakes of others, we have to commit worse atrocities to the fiscal health of our nation than they did, to prove we deserve atrocities of our own?
Ellis Baumgarner, Sounds good to me. How do you suggest we curtail and reverse the spending that the Bush administration built up?
Compassionate republican conservatism in action. The hate driven tea party controls the GOP and these guys deplore the north east coast states. The grownups better take back the party or it will fade away.
G.O.P.
R.I.P.
The sooner the better for all of us.
Spoken like someone who likes to spend spend spend.
or someone without a job who likes sitting home collecting a check
hm thats funny....last i checked it's the RED states who suck up all the welfare. Crazy what happens when someone presents facts....people on the right look stupid
Mike 3234995 could you actually present us with where you got those facts you are quoting?
Representative King says, "...anyone from New York or New Jersey who contributes one penny to congressional Republicans after this should have their head examined." Unfortunately, this has been true for a very long time, not only in NY and NJ but everywhere else. Unless of course, you are a super rich corporate big shot. With them, it is not a contribution, but an investment that is expected to pay handsome dividends.
The GOP is so riled up now they're going after each other. Way to go, Mr. Speaker. Will continue to see more sour grapes from your office?
John...
Seriously. I they bleat about the lack of leadership in the WH while their own "Rome" is burning to the ground. They're likethe Keystone Cops but without the humor element.
the only pork getting pulled is their own!
Impeach them all.
Why?
$80 BILLION A YEAR!!!----that is the amount (yearly) that it costs to finance Congress!!!----Lets start by cutting that!!!!!!!!-----------"Not a 'peep' about it?----right!"
They did start today, when they voted down the pay rate increase Prez Obama tried to give them.
Read more, speak less.
President Obama did not give it to them.....it is automatic and they should vote it down....they do not deserve what they get now!
thank you suz.....how about you tazke your own advice toldyouso
Suz47, it's not automatic when there is a freeze on pay increases. Obama wrote an executive order (something he's very fond of doing) to lift the pay freeze. The House voted to re-freeze increases. Geez, just a tiny bit of research and you'd know that.
Obama has nothing to do with Congressional raises. Obama did not lift any freeze on congressional pay. He in fact extended the existing pay freezes on federal workers as a whole.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/01/michele-bachmann_n_2392512.html
This is a quote from the Huffington Post, Mike 430 and Mike 3234995. Thank you for asking me to prove what I stated earlier by reading more.
The GOP "leadership" is probably the most evil group of Americans ever, if you exclude actual felons. And even then I have to think about it.
The DEMOCRAT leadership is definitely the most evil and lazy group and they are only leading us down a path of financial destruction. I'm proud the GOP are taking a stand and doing what they were sent to Washington to do. STOP Obama and Reid from robbing my 7 year old son and the rest of his generation of a chance to live the American dream.
Bush and Cheney robbed your 7 year old of his "chances" by going into dedt to fight two wars while decreasing revenues with tax cuts for the wealthy. You increase revenues to pay for a war......
The GOP is hoisting itself on its own Petard. And I cant say I am unhappy about it. As people have pointed out, this is who they are. This is what they stand for, and always have.
Whats sad is, the losers that vote for them arent much better. Its all good until they need something. Then we're all Americans... The rest of the time, screw you commie.
These people cant be out of politics soon enough.
I disagree in part. The Republican Party used to be very different. What we have now is an abomination. And the Tea Party... well, they should be in jail for treason.
Its been a long time. Maybe you cant see it. But I have seen this kind of selfishness for 40+ years. Ever since Reagan. Its just gotten worse over time. They have been pushing the social agendas just as long.
I think these losers are trying to punish America for not being republicans like them. After all they consider everyone else unAmerican right.
I guess there are fewer and fewer people left alive who remember the days of the "Rockefeller Republicans"------the present day 'lunatic fringe' are purely an aberation----"this too will pass!!"
----"this too will pass!!"
unlike anything of worth from this Congress.
Every single day, John Boehner asks himself, "What can I do today to further destroy my party's future?"
There isn't much Boehner can do, and I feel no sympathy for the corner into which he painted himself. He embraced the radical Tea Party anarchists into his party, never spoke out against the awful, extremist and sometimes racist things they said, and they helped win the House majority in 2010.
Now he's stuck with them, and they absolutely refuse to respect his position, compromise or be reasonable in any way. I hate to use another cliche, but the man did make his own bed.
He voted for your socialistic bill didn't he? It just goes to show no matter what we do to make you happy you will never accept us.
Sorry Told you so over and over, you just can't force us to accept your immoral lifestyle. What you do in private is your own business, but being @!$%#s publically is just wrong.
Thank you tag2907728, for proving my point.
it's called sarcasm....you're an idiot
Good job to you also mike-32344995
Told, I think you repubs threw the first rock and have keep up with the rocks over the past 4 years and we want Obama a one term president, everything was a total NO by your party as america was trying to come back, held hostage!! So NO I will never accept this type of policy or your party after the past 4 years, if the democrats did the same thing I would not accept them, But guess what the democrats didn't do that and have been working on getting america back on track!!! SO NO I WILL NEVER ACCEPT YOUR PARTY OF NO!!!
The House Republicans vividly remind me of a gang of bullies. Congress is supposed to work like a team. Everyone supposedly signed on to work together for the team's good - the country. But here is a small group of bullies who are only interested in their own agenda and satisfaction, and the team is there to serve them. If they can't have their way, then at least they will go for the mean smug satisfaction of spoiling it for everyone else.
The ones to"blame" are the voters who keep voting them in - esp the "leadership" cabal of Boehner, Cantor, and McCarthy. They are only interested in their political future/careers. Then VOTE THEM OUT in 2014.
Here's a slogan for the 2014 elections - VOTE ALL THE BULLIES OUT!!!!
Their "power" right now is their majority - their number of people - so break it up - VOTE THEM OUT.
Vote for adult people who will WORK legislation (ie. listen & compromise), not petulant immature people who just scream and stomp their feet that they are not getting their way.
As so many have said, if we acted this way at work - complain & do nothing - we would be fired - so let's vote them out.
I guess the Boner showed you New Yorkers and New Jerseyites who's the boss.
They will get their money, and more than the Democrats offered them in that bill, once the pork is removed.
Both parties have filled thousands of bills with pork for decades - and this is the bill the GOP decides is the right one to make a stand?
How stupid are they? This is a concern of many moderate Americans - that the GOP is simply out of touch with reality. They thought they were going to take back the White House and Senate as well as make gains in the House. Instead, they got a smack down by the majority of Americans.
Instead of learning from that lesson and adjusting their strategy accordingly, they choose to act like a bunch of petulant children throwing a fit.
Chris,earlier you have indicated that the GOP is the party of "No", obstructionists so to speak. You are right, because they have constantly stopped and opposed overspending in legislative bills in the past.
Your latest statement contradicts all the others you've written. They are the party of "no" it's true. And it's not just this bill. Remember even yesterday, the fiscal cliff bill?
Your actions here, in the comments you've written, are more like someone hired to write any ole thing negative, without fact, or reason about the GOP.
Your underlying hate exhibited is too extreme to just be an opinion or a comment.
Told, Go sale your used car somewhere else, because no one wants your GOP Yogo, and is a true bunch your party runs about like a yugo did and is running now, NOT!!!
We must remember that the Tea Party portion of the GOP is the Party of the Void, the Naysayers of Nada. They do not believe in government and that is why they are pulling down government salaries: to tell you there shouldn't be a government. So why are we surprised if they do not want to aid their fellow Americans in time of disaster? People should be prepared for disasters and not be expecting others to foot the bill for their negligence. They shouldn't live in a place that has hurricanes, or tornaoes, or earthquakes, or rising rivers, or volcanoes, or blizzards, or heat waves, or ice storms. They should all live in...West Virginia. Just stay out of the Right to Work mines.
Mark, ther is nothing wrong with living in West Virginia, I use to live there before moving to Florida. When I lived in West Virginia, we also had Tornados, Blizzards, Floods, ETC, so it would not help you to escape these things that you mention.
You are truly blind if you really believe your drool. Or should I say the Democrats drool.