It's not humanity hitting rock bottom repeatedly; it's the humanity crawling out from under the rocks that keeps makes me sick!!!!!!!

Evil's greatest asset is that you do not belive it exists. This story show is is alive and doing more.

HSI and partner law enforcement agencies arrested 245 people.

I wish they would publish names and pictures of these despicable individuals all over the internet and on the front pages of every major newspaper for weeks. This is not a violation of their rights; not when they have totally destroyed the lives of these children.

We need to bring back public humiliation and executions. Everyone of these disgusting individuals need to have their names and face plastered across the news and internet, along with names and addresses! We need a way to recognize these people when we see them, a tattoo on their forehead would work as long as it was big enough it couldn't be covered with a scarf or hat.

Trouble is, I have yet to read one news story about a bust like this that reveals the perp's names. They are, for whatever reason, always kept secret.

Pedophiles should not be treated. Nor should they be imprisoned for life. When caught, they should be killed. Immediately. And don't waste bullets on them. Garotting should be the method of killing, since the same instrument can be used over and over again without wasting taxpayer dollars.

If I ever caught someone sexually molesting my child I would kill them. I would become a monster to kill one, as it is I think anyone who is caught watching, distributing and/or filming child porn should have their information plastered all over the news for everyone to see. These people are sick and shouldn't have any rights to the privacy....or protection.

249 arrests, but what about punishments? To me, I think a year or two in jail is too lenient. I really think caning people who physically abuse children must be considered.

As a past paralegal these criminals were the ones I loathed the most, and I hated dealing with them. When would see them in public and they acknowledged me I always told them I may have to pretend to be nice to you because my boss represents you, but when I am outside of that office, I don't owe you a thing. I pray these victims find stable loving homes if they have been taken from their care givers or parents; and I pray the perps get everything bad that they deserve.

I think pedophiles should get the death penalty. And if anyone hurt my niece, they wouldn't get a trial.

Most notably, younger children were more often abused and more women were directly involved in carrying out the abuse, he said.

Just a part of the article that struck me as a new twist in the twisted tale of this.

I keep saying vote in no more PROTECTIVE CUSTODY for these PERPS. When arrested they go to main line. Just like a murderer or a thief. Their crime is worse in my book so why protect them in custody?

Life sentences at minimum should also be handed out.

F***ing atrocious. WTF has happened to this country? People in general?

It is not humanity. It is pure EVIL.

I agree with most of you, these people need to be erased from the population,,we're running out of room anyway so lets start with these. Be consistent on crime across the board let our prosecutors and judges be schooled in one location so they're all on the same page, these vial crap people will eventually get the message.

Unfortunately in our Society, every one of these cases needs to go to trial and considered in an individual basis, like every other crime. I wish we would have a moral standard for these type of crimes, but we don't. We consider the severity of the damage on the victim according to the intensity of the crime as well as the criminal's mind and rights under the law. This, I see as the disgusting price we pay for our law system.

Their names will be available to anyone (who cares to read the pages available Online for sex offenders) after they serve their short, or longer sentences. The victims are and always be the ones damaged for life.

Morton said the only answer to child exploitation is "a relentless fight." and then turn the perp over to the families or put them in the general population with a specially colored uniform for child molesters.

This is the most horrible crime there is, the punishment these so called humans, people or what ever they think they are. Is not by any means enough they take everything from these children, People say they understand, but I am sorry I don't care what you have seen or what degree you have. You can't unless it has been taken from you. I have studied law and psychology also worked in and around law enforcement for 12 years. I have studied and have done several papers on the horrific acts of crimes done by serial, mass murderers, rapists and sadists, but none are as horrible and do as much damage as a sexual predator. That is the key word Predator (preying on the helpless) this is what they live for. They spend every second of their lives trying to find their next victim. Until that day they relive by simple things as sounds, smells, pictures and now a touch of a mouse until they have the real thing. These evil beings are every where. The ones you least expect are usually the ones you need to watch for. The nice man next door who has a pretty garden he loves to show the kids. The perfect couple next door who have three kids, a dog and you see them at church every Sunday. The kids soccer coach who is always nice to the single parent usually a mother and is always their to help. Never ever second guess yourself if you have a bad feeling about someone it is not worth any child. Always be aware who is around your neighborhood. Watch for strange activity watching of kids when they do not have any with them. They like to watch it is part of the game to them, it excites to return to areas where he or she may have exposed himself or took pictures of kids. These are just some things you can do just to make things a little more safe. Some cases are solved from the smallest things. We all have to take a part and stop looking the other way or not wanting to get involved. When it is your child that is the last thing you want to here is I didn't want to get involved. You can find more information on how to help and protect our children by going to the sights listed above. There is no justice given back to these helpless victims. The only thing we can do is vow as people, to serve justice in their name by capturing, convicting and saving what we have left as a just society. I believe in law and justice in times like these it is the hardest too. The fight will go on in the names and the hearts that poor out to these victims. The pain will never end for them but you will survive I have. Those who fight every day also have to survive the evil they see just so they can save the children they too need prayers to help guide them. Please every day say a prayer for these children they need all the help they can get. To law officers who do this work day in and day out I know it pulls on the soul and I thank everyone of you for putting your self peace and life in danger for these lost but not forgotten children.

19 days old????!!!! WHAT THE EFF!!!!

Time to experiment on these creatures, lets see if the "a clockwork orange" treatment (or something very like it) actually works. leave these creatures violently and uncontrollably wretching whenever a naked child is seen by them.

it might keep them away from kids for good, even if they do get released from prison.

Why should we be surprised. We abuse them both sexually, physically and psychologically. We kill them. We abandon them. We abort them. I tell myself to quit reading these stories. 19 days old.

Why should we be surprised. We abuse them both sexually, physically and psychologically. We kill them. We abandon them. We abort them. I tell myself to quit reading these stories. 19 days old.

we brainwash them into hating those that are different...

usually in the name of some deity

Iseeconfusedpeople; I agree. When life has no value and society condones the murdering of innocent babies, what can you expect from the evil ones. When society condones and legalizes homosexuality, the most perverted life a human being can live, what do you expect from the evil ones. The only cure for this and even this will not completly stop it is for these inhuman excrements of society to be publicly executed. But these things are even on the benches of our court system, they are your physician, your teachers, your ministers, they are everywhere and they will continue to abuse until they are dead. Putting them in prison does not work, castration does not work, therapy does not work, these things are the lowest form of life and when caught they must be executed.

I do believe these perverts should be branded on the forehead, chest, back, both hands (both sides) and both cheeks of their asses with the letters SEXUAL PERVERT in big bold caps (so it will hurt like hell) so that they will be known for all time EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE. Then cast them loose in an open prison environment- making certain the guards have the day off.

I don't think society is necessarily getting sicker, just that with today's media technology, this stuff is getting noticed more. The Internet is only 20 to 30 years old.

That said, I just can't fathom why somebody would do these things to innocent children. Is it money? Were these adults involved abused as children themselves?

Children are supposed to trust adults and adults are supposed to be trustworthy. I just don't get it...

Its called freedom of information act. The same crap you libs are saying when it comes to printing the names and adresses of legal gun owners. Its not right what they are doing, but, all the same, it the same thing. And that was according to the "Angry Black Man"'s words last night.

What about protected organizations like North American Man/Boy Love Association? These are children as well being molested by adult perverts.

Once found, arrested, and rightfully convicted, EVERY ONE of these completely sick, twisted, non-human POS should be EXECUTED no less than 2 days after conviction. No prison, no rehabilitation, no re-entry back into society, just DEATH! And, don't make it nice and easy, make these Scum Bag BA$TARDS suffer severely before they DIE!!!!

JS

While there may be a kernel of truth in what you say, the youngest victim I have worked with was one-week old.... and it was NOT a casual photo, it was a full sexual assault. So I would be loathe to presume that a casual photo was the case for this 19 day old merely on the basis of the incredibly young age.

There is any illegal immigrant in those cases?

There is any foreign prostitution ring involve in those crimes?

We have the border open , criminals crossing the fence everyday nobody stop them until they commit a crime.

sick

I"m all for televised public executions Got no problem with hanging these criminals

This is just sick. Someone above mentioned she didn't belive anything actually happened to the 19 day old infant.... I disagree. It happens all the time, unfortunately. I think she's just trying to prove to herself that no one could be that sick to use and abuse an infant that young.

I think this is one of those times we need to get creative in our punishments. Castration, and a Lorena Bobbit treatment and see how they get off that way. Literally and figuratively! None of this just putting them in jail, or if they do - no more segregation for sex offenders.

They're so afraid of being hurt that the prisons have to keep all of them in a separate area away from other criminals because they could be hurt, or even killed. Well, what the hell is wrong with that? The sex offender is "scared"??... well too damn bad. Just imagine what those little kids felt like when you were abusing them, and multiply it by a gazillion as they have to live with this for the rest of their lives. You just go to jail and get out on parole and do it all over again because there is no changing you.

I'm sure there are some offenders that do stop offending, but I bet the majority of them keep on doing it as long as they can get away with it. The only problem I have is for these poor18-19 yr old teenagers who date a girl underage and her parents have him arrested and basically screw him for life with having to go to jail and registering as a sex offender. That's just wrong and should never happen. I understand as a parent the need to protect your child - but that's going just a bit overboard.

If sexual assault/rape of a 19 day old doesn't get you the death penalty nothing should.

Devi's son:

at least part of me agrees completely...it seems it would take more depravity it would seem to purposefully exploit and hurt an infant than pull the trigger of a gun, say. THre are people who might shoot someone in the heat of the moment (but not planned) who have gotten the death penalty and have been killed. They may have been lost but not irretrevable in their humanity. (I don't support the death penalty in general).

this is a totally lower level

what a disgusting world we live in.

Yet shootings to seem to bother Americans one bit.

People just do not get it, what the hell is wrong with them. An abused child will most likely grow to become the abuser. Execution of a child sex abuser is the only punishment that is exceptable and it needs to apply to anyone above the age of sixteen. If you sexually abuse a child you must know that if and when you are caught and are proven guilty without a doubt, you will be executed. The end, period.

In Operation Sunflower, led by agents from Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security Investigation unit from Nov. 1 to Dec. 7, 123 victims of child sexual exploitation were identified, ICE Director John Morton said at a press conference in Washington.

Kudos to one of the best law enforcement creations in our country. These are the good guys who's contributions help and protect our society. I can't imagine the psychological stress agents put themselves through everyday. They deserve our utmost respect and gratitude. Any person willing to exploit and harm children, elderly and the disabled needs to be stopped and put someplace where they can't harm anyone else ever again. Unfortunately, the abuse described in the article almost always comes from inside the home or by a trusted friend of the family. If you know someone that is being harmed, do the right thing and tell someone.

People seem to forget that this kind of thing is not new. What is new is the fact that it is being disseminated through the internet.

And it has nothing to do with current social issues such as gay marriage, "godlessness", a person's nationality or legal status, who the current President is, or any other thing people with agendas like to blame it on.

Pedophilia is a disorder in and of itself.

Wake up, people. Pedophiles are marching for their rights already. Have you ever heard of NAMBLA? What are you going to do?

Joe..thanks for the direction. I just looked up NAMBLA website. Ick and I will say it over Ick.

It is time that we as a society make a committment to protect our children and all minors.

I'm guessing the only reason the perpetrators names and faces are NOT being shown everywhere is to keep their cover...if they are selling online, perhaps it's easier to find their customers if the customers don't know they've been busted.

Not a fan of the death penatly, but for cases like this, I would shed no tears.

@JS in SD,

While I've read of stories where children have been taken away from their parents after photos of the children at bath time developed at a store were mistaken for porn, you need to google 'mother sells baby..' and you'll see the most recent case of a woman in Indiana who was paid to allow a man to sexually abuse her infant daughter to create child porn It stopped when the baby was 18months old when the man shared his secret with someone that he thought would enjoy it but she contacted the authorities.

I don't know how these people's minds cwork tocome up with tese sick thoguths but, they can't be cured so they need to be locked away for a long time.

@DisabledVet68 -

The only problem with moving sex offenders in with the general population to sort of get a taste of their own medicine is that there have been cases where parents take innocent pictures of their babies at bath time or just in their undies playing in the baby pool who were accused of creating porn as well as the 18 year old boy who has sex with his 16 year old girl friend and is prosecuted for statutory rape. I would not want them subjected to thesame brutality as actual child predators.

The percentage of children who are sexually abused probably hasn't changed much throughout history. Kudos to the internet for giving us an effective tool for catching the perpetrators. The reason they don't publish the names of the accused until they are convicted is to protect the innocent from the social stigma that goes along with just being accused of sexually abusing a child.

Yes, it is very messed up. But it should be known that child exploitation is much, MUCH lower than it was 10 or 15+ years ago...

It is things like ICE's involvement, stricter laws, and general public education that is helping to reduce the numbers. Unfortunately, it will be a never ending job.

I have similar reaction but a bit different stlant

I don't blame the disgusting world or humans

my reaction was more like

"wow...I thought I understood what evil was, I thought I understood the darkest end of possilbe human behavior...but I didn't"

I am no saint myself but have never hurt a person on purpose. I've worked in inner city hospitals and seen some dark things in my life (though not more than say police officiers).

But still...I cannot imagine or fathom (usually I can) how someone can sexually abuse a newborn. It is simply beyond my ken both logistically and emotionally.I have worked with newborns infants older babies toddlers. I understand what they are at different ages.

the depravity required to objectify them and hurt them purposefully is astounding. These perpertrators are lost people, completely utterly lost

Correction, they are not lost people, they are below the lowest form of animal life and that is an insult to animals.

Disgusting. Despicable. Revolting. Sordid. Repulsive. Ghastly. Nauseating. Sick. Appalling. Terrible. Awful. Inexcusable. Horrendous. Atrocious. Unspeakable. Evil.

And yet those still aren't strong enough for the absolute disgust and horror...

These dirtbags need to die. Don't let them out.

Indiana Engineer,It is every word you said and more.I think that the death penalty should be the punishment for these monsters.

Congratulations on the birth of your little girl. We have a 4 month old and I can't help but imagine her in that scenario and I get a black rage at the thought. I'm a peaceful person but if someone hurt my little girl like that, death would be too quick and too good for them, I will be the type of evil the abusers never knew existed.

T.Neville, these evil scum do not have a soul. No God would claim them as there children or kind. Public executions, where these filthy, worthless pieces of trash are made to suffer greatly before they are killed should be the order of the day. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THIS TYPE OF ABUSE, NONE!

see, the trick is as humans is not to disown these perpertrators in saying they don't have a soul or they are not human (you may not be coming from there yourself Brian)

In hearing about these kinds of horrific acts I've noticed we have a tendancy to separate the perperators out from the rest of humanity, which in a way is distancing them from ourselves.

THey are us. They are part of humanity. Until we own that (or as owning that) we can ;discover and address the circumtances that MAY lead to an adult growing up to be someone that would sexually abuse an infant.

I do not think (and I doubt science thinks) these people were born with the urge to sexually abuse infants NOR the mindset that they would be able to rationalize the act (rather than the urge if that's what they have) as "ok". These people are MADE, not born. Maybe some of them ARE born with psychopathy/sociopathy (there are young children that seem to lack ability to develop empathy but it is debatable that with teaching/therapy it doesn't develop ie with xtra help they can learn it) but we as a society, and as parents and others that care about kids, CAN make a difference.

Not if we just act like these perperators of horrific unspeakable crimes are monsters. (you hear that alot "monsters" aka not human, not us). They are part of us, icky as it is.

That said it's normal to have the emotional reaction that we all are haviing. Just know that some of these people were made not born. Probably some of them, if not most, had it done to them. We all need to be vigilant around how children are treated and who they are around.

in case anyone mistakes my above post as empathy for the sadistic abusers of tiny children, please let me say that I feel no empathy for them. As adults they are responsible for everythign they do.

As society we need to own their existance as part of us, is my point, so we can intervene with children perhaps BEFORE some of them become what they do become

I posted other posts agreeing with how horrific what they did is, full stop. Incluing not being able to fathom that human beings could be so evil, so low. take my above post in that context

Laurali

I get what you're trying to say, but I don't fully agree with it. There are plenty of people who were abused as children who did not grow up to be child abusers.

However, I do believe that our present culture does everything it can to encourage pedophilia, from shows like Toddlers in Tiaras to pornographic clothing commercials featuring children. And it's not only media. Almost every day I see little girls dressed like streetwalkers, wearing provacative hairstyles and more makeup than I do as a mature woman. Their parents should be arrested and found guilty of pandering, IMO.

So long as we sexualize children, we need not pretend to be so terribly shocked when a certain percentage takes us up on our offer.

Laurali and patter...Actually, science DOES show that these people are born "that way." Pedophilia is not only an illness (and please believe me when I say it is an illness, and an evil, and I am not coming out on the side of the pedophiles here) it is a sexual orientation, much the same way a heterosexual is attracted to the opposite sex. That is why these people need to be incarcerated for life, because they cannot change and most likely will offend again. Yes, there is data that shows a child who is sexually abused grows up to be an abuser, but that is not the only scenario. In that case, rehabilitation may be possible (I don't know, I'm not a psychologist). This kind of thing has affected me personally, so don't think I don't have strong feelings against these actions. However, state sanctioned murder is still murder and I don't believe in the death penalty, even in these horrific cases.

jerry, Laurali, ECF222 - I have been reading through the comments, and I could not help but notice that each of you (to varying degrees) seems to be of the opinion that the Victims of sexual Abuse are likely Ruined as Normal individuals, and will become the Abuser.... based on "Data". I suspect that the "Data" comes from Inmate Psyche Evaluations, where a claim of prior abuse is made by nearly every single offender who is caught, in an effort to blame someone else for their crime. I would be willing to bet it is a lie, most of the time.

a man started molesting me when I was 5 years old. he did not threaten me or cause me any physical pain, or I never would have Tolerated it... I was pretty strong willed, even at 5 y.o.

it went on till I hit the age where I reached maturity (10 y.o.). and in fact, it was the very day that I reached maturity (the physical change) that I knew all at once, what had been happening... and worse than that, I knew that I had been permitting it to happen... I cannot describe what a fool I felt like. and I was utterly mortified to have my eyes opened to Everything... mother nature, in all its wonder (yeah, right ! )... and to my humiliation, at the hands of a Deviant, a liar, a thief... in just a few moments. and I can even remember the song playing on my brothers stereo, as I was sitting there trying to take it all in... it was The WHO - "I Can See for Miles"... It seemed appropriate somehow... but in no way comforting.

Awesome, isn't it ?

BUT - I digress... I am 45 years old now. and what wanted to say is that after reading what you nice, well adjusted folks believe to be true about the character of those of us who were Abused,.. well it was just sad... it reminded me of what It felt like when I was in collage, and our priest arranged for me to rent a room from a Catholic family living by the collage. I was turned away by that family because they had previously been members of our parish when I was a boy, and they recognized me... "the molested boy"... and since they had boys of their own,.. of course they couldn't invite the Devil into their Home, now could they ?... what an indescribably special feeling that was. I guess that "better safe than sorry" kind of thinking, is hard to argue with... considering what happened to me. but I cannot express strongly enough to you folks who assume it is "Likely" that folks like myself could, or would harm anyone the way we were harmed.... is not only "unlikely", but it takes the stigma of being a victim, to a whole new level, as we are now Suspect in the very same crime that was done to us.

Awesome, isn't it ?

I have Been a Hospice Nurse for 18 years now, I love working with the elderly... it has been a privilege to serve people, and be a comfort to their families, where I can. I do not seek validation. I don't need it, because I learned who I am along time ago... and I understand the fear that drives folks to fear the past of people like me, however insane it seems to me... I mean, who could possibly realize your fears any better ?

but I think you should all take a look at the "DATA" and realize that it "LIKELY" comes from criminals who are using a claim of childhood molestation, whether its true or not, to somehow Validate or Excuse their criminal acts...

the REAL victims can be found in 12 step groups, like alcoholics anonymous... or something similar, trying to heal their wounds.. or perhaps the real victims will be less obvious... perhaps someone like that good natured fellow that you met, that came from your local Hospice when a loved one was passing away....

its hard to say... isn't it ?

I was on some silly web page, and they had a thing..."20 of the most bizarre sex toys"...caught my attention so I started clicking through it...there was one toy that the author stated was a tiny gremlin sex doll...but as a mom I could clearly see it was a baby in a hooded bath towel, you know the kind with ears...the author of this list either was clearly confused (thinking the sex toy had the ears?) or blowing it off...either way, it was a simulated infant sex toy. I was so sickened by it. Yes, those people are out there.

Thank you MurderofCrows. As a person who has been through this type of abuse and knows others who have been sexually abused, nobody I know in that sad group would ever touch a child, because the memories are too horrific and the sense of the wrongness of it is even greater when it has been done to you. I have only ever gotten a pedo-vibe off of one person and that person is never allowed near my children. Sadly, it is my mother's new husband. He doesn't seem to like children, yet has trained to be a clown to be near children. He ignored my daughter while in my home yet tried to give her back massages and get her alone when she was at my Moms. It's disgusting that people like that exist. Be vigilant for your kids sake, but don't instantly assume that we abused are doing all the abusing.

exactly

@kjposee; you pretty much nailed it. Too many excuses, too many heads buried in the sand and too many sickos taking advantage of it all!!!

You and me both!!!

It makes me physically ill. My stomach is in knots.

They were too busy getting beat up, pepper sprayed and arrested by the same law enforcement who could have caught a lot more child abusers, muggers, rapists and murderers across the country but get your dig at Occupy if it makes you feel better. They'ver been eaten into submission anyway for protesting, camping out in parks and holding signs against wage disparity, war for profit, decimation of our environment, and the never ending greed of "the corporate state" that due to constant budget slashing for programs like social services that has caseloads backed up like crazy for too few social workers, child abuse and neglect cases are falling through the cracks worse then ever before. But don't let that fact get in the way of your never wanting to pay TAXES for any of "that wasteful spending, better foster care and something as beneficial and cheap as childcare subsidies for those welfare mothers you all insist go out and get a job so they can AFFORD to stay at that crappy wage job until they get back on their feet and not have to leave their children with undependable people like the "boyfriend" step father who drinks or the parade of bad caregivers wh ultmately gets blamed for leaving her kid with when it's beat to @!$%# or killed because "WHERE WAS THE MOTHER!!!!?????" Note: But let's cut access to responsible things like affordabel preventative reproductive healthcare and GASP-BIRTH CONTROL because that is so "IMMORAL and DISGUSTING and nobody should be paying for THAT!!!!" Just a bazillion more unintended pregnancies!!!! Silly liberal me, thinking ahead again. Oh well. Somebody has to.
Of course this all happens "because we took god out of everything, too many violent movies and videos and all those perverted GAY people and those LIBERAL judges are responsible!!!" Typical conservative rants that get repeated verbatim on these dumbass forums that are the rw echo chamber called the internet.

No. What we need is a psychological evaluation before any one can sign up for an ISP.

The fact that you are using very non-clever and insensitive irony to comment on such a serious issue is offensive in so many levels. It's offensive to sex abuse victims, gun violence victims, families and just level-headed people that understand right from wrong.

That being said and since you want to talk about guns rather than what the article is about, yes, we do need to keep guns away from losers like you because they obviously cannot differentiate between right and wrong.

Your just an idiot.

Boris,

Actually you are right. Really you are. You see before digital cameras most sick people could not take and distribute pictures of this type. You certainly could not take your film to the local store to have it developed. If you did you would be receiving a visit from the local PD. So you see you are right. Digtal imaging is the problem just like the guns and high capacity magazines/clips you are lamely trying to defend.

I was taught how to develop rolls of film in High school. Do you really think scum who would knowingly photograph and record pictures and videos of children being abused and molested wouldn't have their own means to produce their material? Having a dark room to develop photo's is kinda par for the course with people like that. Besides, there are many a horror story where a person was taking a picture of their child in the bathtub, completely innocent, and had been arrested for 'child porn' while they where trying to have their pictures developed. Those that know they are doing wrong aren't typically stupid enough to take their negatives to a store.

You and David are both idiots.

Don't you see the problem with my argument? If it is ok to ban one tool because a possible result is school shooting, then I would submit it should be ok to ban another tool because it can be used in a heinous fashion such as this.

David-2009125 should settle down on the p.c. because this insensitivity goes both ways. I'm offended by those insensitive to what our founding fathers died for: freedom to bear arms among others.

Boris-The others may not have liked your post. I, however did. You make a very good point with your angle. I didn't intend to offend the victims of these porn crimes either. In fact, I hope they all see justice at the maximum because pedo's, no matter how "crazy" they are deserve justice. If someone "crazy" exists without harming anyone, then good for them. No different than a "sane" person. If they go batsh*t crazy and kill folks, then they deserve harsh punishment...just like a "sane" person! Once again Boris, nice post!

David,Thank you.I couldn't have stated it better.People making jokes about these types of things are themselves sick individuals.

So you would find it ok to shoot children in their school yet make fun of the most depraved thing to happen to living children - you are sicker than a coon dog after eating 3 week old road kill.

wow i have a difficult time with you jerks twisting hurting children to fit your agenda, and yes i stutter both when i try to talk and type fast

purpose of camera is not to hurt or exploit but to take pictures, some which can be of hurting and exploiting. Aiming a camera at a child and "triggering" it does not hurt or exploit children.

purpose of gun IS to hurt or kill..it is it's MAIN purpose. When aimed at people it hurts or kills them

I am not for gun bans but your analogy isn't quite right either

Boris, you are too stupid for words. Too make light of something this heinous to push your republican agenda is why people hate republicans. Which is not totally fair, a lot of them are sensible,nice people. They should be angry because asshates like you make them look bad.

You are SO correct! Our local newspaper recently ran an article about an individual who was arrested for having over 3,000 pornographic pictures of children in his possession. MANY of the (on-line) comments were from people saying they didn't understand WHY this guy was in trouble because "he hadn't actually touched the children" and it was "his right" to have them. Are kidding me?!? HOW in the world can they not see the fact that LOOKING at or BUYING this crap contributes to/is the ultimate reason these babies & children are abused!! 2nd Amendmend my a*s...

Its not just men who trade/buy/share these images. A woman named Erika Perdue was recently busted over this, and she was quite a wealthy woman as well.

Both problems need to be addressed. The gun control problem is one, child abuse is another. They are both out there and dropping one in favor of eliminating the other won't do. Why is everything twisted to meet the right-wing agenda?

read again you imbicele

BTW, are they now going to go after all of the baby product manufacturers, the ad agencies, and the parents of the babies, toddlers, and kids used in those commercials where the child is naked or near naked? Isn't all of that exploitation of a minor, the same as what they are prosecuting here?

@wondering. you need to read the article again, without the name calling. The author fails to actually identify the "method of rescue" of these victims, never defines what the violations actually were, and clearly states that it was more a case of "were identified in an international operation that found them depicted in child pornography on the Internet." Did the original photographers (maybe family members simply taking family photos and sharing them across the internet or through emails with other family members) actually share them with an international operation or were their computers hacked and the "family photos" made viral across the internet? That is the problem with our electronic age...nothing is private any more.

Do you understand what the definition of pornography is? Because if you did, you'd realize naked baby pictures, taken and shared by parents, do not qualify.

Clearly, these were not just run-of-the-mill bathtub funtime photos taken by parents. Things were being done to these children to qualify them as sexually abused. I can't believe I even have to clarify that for someone. Wow.

Let me second what @wondering said and add to it that you are an ignorant moron. If you cannot tell the difference between a baby picture and pornography, maybe you are a threat and MSNBC should trace your IP address to see what can be found in your hard drive. Just saying...

There have been very rare occasions in which an over zealous caseworker/prosecutor over reacted to nude family photos. Those days are, hopefully, behind us. These law enforcement officials are trained, and absolutely know child abuse when they see it. A child has to be abused in order to create pornography. The child has to be posed or touched, or forced to touch.I would hope your family photos don't have those characteristics.

amediamogul, ideally, you would be correct but, more than once, people have been arrested and prosecuted for just that; pictures of their kids that someone decided were pornographic. I don't think anyone was actually convicted but, once your name is splashed all over the media for something like that, you are pretty well screwed.

The problem is, no one has been able to come up with a definition for pornography that everyone is able to agree on. Even the Supreme Court hasn't been able to accomplish this to everyone's satisfaction.

Back in the 80s, a few places passed some anti-pornography laws they thought would stop some of the child exploitation. The laws were great but, they were so stringent that even showing a babies butt was illegal. Do you know how many commercials for diapers, baby power and such, show babies butts. Even the Coppertone adds were illegal.

If these are more than just "run-of-the-mill bathtub funtime photos taken by parents" these folks should be locked away, never to see the light of day again.

As someone who works with the victims of these crimes, tiredofhypocrites, I would like to say F*$# you but I'll be PC about this and tell you, straight up. These were NOT coppertone ads, nor were they "innocent pictures" of children "mistaken" by "others" as pornography. These were pictures of children engaged in sexual acts at the behest and for the pleasure of some adult who decided these children were theirs to exploit. Read your statutes and laws (for your state or any other) and find out what is required prior to filing charges for sending, receiving and/or creating child pornography.

On a hypothetical, lets say someone did take an "innocent picture" of their (or someone else's child) and upload it to a porn site.... What does this say about the person posting the picture to a child porn site??? Even if they hadn't touched that child (yet), it would be far from coming (no pun intended). Do you think the uploading of the picture to THAT site was an ACCIDENT??? (Oops, my fingers slipped officers...NOT) And how long do you think it would be before this person and their "innocent" posting turned into something much darker, evil? I don't know about anyone else, but if I visit a website, I don't just look at the first page that pops up, I click around on it... See what's there. So, given that these were CHILD PORNOGRAPHY WEBSITES, what do you think this "innocent' person was looking at and getting their jollies on in addition to posting their photo??? Reality check- you should cash one....

As to these "pedophiles" being absued themselves, research shows that less that 1 in 3 abuse victims goes on to BE an abuser... And people may be born with a sexual preference, that doesn't mean we get to act on them.... We are not animals controlled by our natures and driven by instinct alone! We are human beings!! We have brains, souls (most of us) and the ability to realize the impact of OUR BEHAVIOR on others.... Only EVIL preys on the innocent....

Thank you, Calikat for injecting a little reality into the discussion! I've had people argue with me the same way when I spoke about pornography, acting as if the only thing law enforcement encounters when they deal with child porn or even adult porn is a few nude pictures! Wake up, for heaven's sake! People don't seem willing to acknowledge the extent of evil that exists in the world today, either completely tuning it out or desperately wanting to explain it away as something lesser than it is. I guess this is because of fear (or in some cases to cover their own criminal activity), but it doesn't make the evil go away. The only way to make it go away is to help the victims and make sure the perpetrators are brought to justice.

Besides, even if you took an innocent photo of your child and posted it then someone else posted it on a child porn website you'd have to ask WHY they posted it. They'd have to have some designs for getting off on it or on your child. Not to mention the fact that other pedophiles could become interested in your child.

Anti-trust proponent and Calikat71. I am glad you are, in a way, defending baby rapers and toddler molesters. It must comfort the worst perverts ever to exist that you are on their side and defending their right to look at filthy pictures of babies, not even able to hold their heads up yet, getting sexually assaulted. What a grand mind you have to link that, somehow, to diaper ads and family photos of kids in the buff playing in a kiddie pool. Screw you.

YES- These type of criminals can not be helped. And I do not wish to feed, clothe or keep them alive. Waste of my money. Our gov't is way to easy on criminals. Touchy- feely. They had a bad childhood. Get over it and grow up. These people need to die.

That and, there are just some crimes that should have 0 tolerance period. No matter who you are or what money you have. You should not be allowed to get away with it. I think you would not have to spay/ neuter/kill many before the word got out and children were once again able to play outside.

Or just let parents of victims choose punishment.. plain and simple.

Sir you molested 6 children..

Here are 12 parents choosing your punishment to be carried out 30 minutes after they decide..

String these perverts up by the balls then proceed to remove the penis with a dull butter knife dipped in salt. These sickos cannot be redeemed. Another thought, put them all on an island together and let them molest themselves to death.

Unfortunately, Cheryl, not all of them have balls because some of them are women. So you need to think of a creative and unusual way to punish them as well.

Yes, I think public castration and/or execution would go a long way.... Ain't like planet earth is SHORT ON PEOPLE! weed this garbage out of our gene pool!

Along with bigoted, racist Southerners. We should also follow the bible or is it the koran or both and execute women who commit adultery. Like you say, it isn't like the earth is short on people. Any other groups you can think of? How about illegal immigrants? I know some people feel that way about them. Shoot first and ask questions later would also work it appears from some comments.

Akconins -

Maybe so except pedophiles I think society as a whole except for that group of twisted (men and women) would want them banished.

Akcoins, I'm not for wholesale executions for any people group; but I find it interesting that people all over this site have been clamoring for the execution of pedophiles and you didn't respond negatively to any of them except the one you thought was Southern (presumably because of his/her use of the word "ain't.") Even though that commenter said nothing about religion or race-and I don't think anyone else has either-you also insisted on bringing those issues into your attack. Now why was that? Did someone hit a nerve? And who is stereotyping here?

You may attack me back, and perhaps I deserve it-but I'm not your enemy, at least I don't intend to be. Many people are angry and hurt about all those issues for good reason; and I do understand if you are one of them, believe it or not. My desire is that we listen to each other and learn to work together to solve our common problems-and surely you would agree that child abuse is a problem just as bigotry and religious abuse are problems.

Yeah, Akcoins, brilliant assesment. Any of those groups you named are quilty of heinousness on par with raping an infant. What a lovely way to push your agenda. *sarc*

Are you sure you aren't one of those perps? Do you have any naked photos of your kids lying around the house? Or even photos of them in their diapers or skimpy bathing suits could be considered "child porn" in the minds of some people.

Again. You need to brush up on what qualifies as pornography by law.

No normal person gets any type of excitement from a childhood photo memory. Stop trying to push your agenda in a really ridiculous way.

This goes on everywhere in the world, not just America.

Hanging sounds good all we need is witnesses and I will help.