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Two New York police officers were shot by an armed subway rider in Brooklyn and an off-duty officer was shot during an attempted robbery at a Bronx auto shop in the span of an hour Thursday, bringing the number of NYPD cops wounded by gunfire in the first three days of 2013 to a quarter of the total shot all of last year, authorities said.
In Brooklyn, a lieutenant and three officers assigned to the transit division were in plainclothes on patrol in two subway cars of a Manhattan-bound N train shortly after 7:30 p.m. when they noticed a man moving illegally between the cars. Officers Lukasz Kozicki and Michael Levay stopped the man as the train pulled up to the Fort Hamilton Parkway stop in Dyker Heights, intending to question him and pull him off the subway, Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said Thursday evening.
When asked for identification, the suspect appeared to reach for a wallet, but pulled out a 9-millimeter Taurus and opened fire on the officers, Kelly said. Kozicki, 32, was hit three times -- once in each thigh and once in the groin. Levay, 27, was hit once in the lower back but was able to return fire, fatally shooting the suspect.
One passenger was grazed in the gunfire exchange and wasn't seriously hurt, Kelly said. Other passengers on the train were able to flee onto the platform when the gunfire erupted. The station was not crowded at the time of the incident, Kelly said.
Kozicki and Levay were taken to Lutheran Medical Center, where they were listed in stable condition and are expected to make full recoveries. A witness told police the gunman appeared to notice the officers' bullet-resistant vests and aimed low before he fired.
The unidentified suspect had a past criminal record of five assaults, including one with a knife, officials said.
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Earlier Thursday, an off-duty officer was shot in the Bronx during an apparent robbery attempt. Officer Juan Pichardo was working at his family's dealership when two men, one of them armed with a handgun, walked into the store and, after pretending to be interested in a vehicle, brandished the weapon.
Pichardo was shot in the leg during the fracas that ensued; he was not armed. He and another employee managed to wrestle one of the suspects to the ground and disarm him. The second suspect who had entered the store fled to a getaway vehicle outside the building, while Pichardo held the other suspect until police arrived. Police caught up with the getaway car a short time later and arrested three occupants inside. Their identities are unknown.
Pichardo was taken to the hospital with a bullet wound to the leg, but is expected to be OK. He was the third NYPD officer to be shot on Thursday, the third day of the year. Only 12 police officers were shot in all of 2012, Mayor Michael Bloomberg said Thursday.
“In recent weeks, we've heard some people say that the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. But sometimes the good guys get shot – and sometimes, they are killed," the mayor said Thursday night from the hospital where the two officers wounded in the Brooklyn incident were recovering. "Tonight, thank God, three good guys – three New York City police officers, who acted heroically – are going to make it. But we owe it to the good guys to do whatever we can to protect them – just as they do whatever they can to protect us. Instead, Washington is letting the bad guys shoot our police officers, our children, our neighbors – and it just has to stop."
Bloomberg's "good guys with guns" remark was an apparent retort to the National Rifle Association'srecent statement that "the only thing that stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." The mayor has been a vocal advocate for tighter gun control.
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As usual Bloomberg makes an irrelevant anti-legal gun ownership comment. None of the shooters had a LEGAL right to the gun, can't tell if they were legally purchased or not because the media does NOT tell the full story. In America gun sales are up through the roof thanks to Obama, Bloomberg, Feinstein, ETAL. No causal analysis supports their claims. Whether or not my AR 15 has a bayonet lug on it or not will save no one. If these criminals knew there might be legally armed citizens ready to support/protect themselves and others the outcome might be different. If you assume Bloomberg and his cronies are able to enact a TOTAL ban of ALL guns it would make NO difference. The US cannot afford to buy back all legal guns even if their owners were to surrender them and in those places (Australia) where this has happened, these policies are being reevaluated because they are simply ineffective. The issue is the Mental Health System and Criminals with guns- the police can NOT be everywhere citizens must be prepared to protect themselves and others. We tried gun controls for 10 years did NOT make a significant difference. In California guns went up from 600K to 850K gun crime is done 28%- significantly greater than the Gun Control Act. It is a dangerous world WHO are YOU willing to fight to protect? I carried a gun for 30 years in uniform to protect foreign innocents- I sure as hell intent to do the same in my own country. Grow up Bloomberg and acknowledge real problem so we can begin to protect our children and fellow citizens. Interesting that Mr. Bloomberg and Ms Hanssen (Lower Hudson Valley News/Journal) don't want the unwashed masses to be able to own a gun but yet they protect themselves with them? Violence can NOT be stopped by pseudo-intellectuals with good intentions - we have an obligation and the right to protect ourselves and the innocent - our great law enforcement personnel can NOT. In most European countries (includes Great Britan, Germany, France, Italy), law enforcement carry automatic weapons do we want that in American?
Bloomberg says: "Tonight, thank God, three good guys – three New York City police officers, who acted heroically – are going to make it." Thank God? Not too swift on intervention, though, is the Invisible Master?! This is why good guys with guns, if we are lucky enough to have one of them at a crime scene, makes more sense even though faith will always take the credit.
The main problem that I see in the gun debate is that its too one dimensional - In my humble opinion there are at least three (3) issues that have to be addressed, none of them about disarming law-abiding Americans: 1). The issue of too many killer weapon assault rifles/clips, being sold - 2). The issue of a broken mental-health delivery system, destined to become more broken if the Congressional GOP get their way - 3). the issue of prison sentencing & parole - Any legitimate dialogue about the uptick on violent incidents in this country have to be discussing all three simultaneously in conressional hearings!
Once the findings are consolidated, then adequate national legislation must ensue!!!
Rah,
This killer assault weapon "issue" is buzz word bull@!$%#. You can put more lead downrange and faster with a pump shotgun of a 80 year old design than with an AR-15 (range to target notwithstanding but most shootings occur closer than 40 yds). BTW - The term "assault weapon" was coined by the Germans in WWII to describe a rifle that could shoot full auto and semi-auto. The M-16 can do so. The only similarity between an M-16 (not legal unless you are a Class III dealer) and an AR-15 is their appearance.
Yes, but they are all too busy banning hi-cap magazines to bothere with REAL issues that will make us safe. What I find "Feinstein obtuse" is that I can perform a tactical reload while on the run, and shooting, in less than a second. I am fat and old and out of shape and i can do that proficiently. So do you really think that a ten round mag is a significant impediment to me? If I am a criminal and or crazy instead of a law abiding citizen I would just carry more mags and do more swift tactical reloads. The left wing nut media panders the magazine ban as if it will give the victims a huge advantage to get away and make the world a safe meadow full of bunnies and flowers. How stupid.
If everyone on the subway had a gun the cops would probably be alive.
No cops died, only the perp at the subway.
Perp at the car lot arrested.
But do agree, the more armed we are, the safer we are.
What's a guy like that doing out of prison? I mean besides more of the same.
Bloomberg seems to think that the only "good guys" in the world wear badges. He can kiss it. Best wishes to the officers.
In regards to 2nd Amendment Rights, Mr. Obama will try to back door ending this right by signing the UN Small Arms Treaty
Here we go again. Mayor Bloomberg will hit the airwaves with his crusade to get stricter gun controls yet not mention one word about getting stricter laws for people committing crimes while using a gun. Get with it folks, get the scum off of the streets and you won't have to worry about having guns in the wrong hands. That's the problem. A firearm, properly used can save a person's life. Improperly gotten, improperly used it can kill. Notice the emphasis on improper. Make laws that put criminals in jail for a long time for using a firearm in commision of a crime..and keep them in for the full time with no parole. Maybe if these idiots see that using a firearm to kill or injure someone will cost them a minimum of twenty-five years of solid prison time maybe they'll think twice about committing the crime. If not, then they deserve every punishment they get.
Another death penalty done by third world style police force, I wonder if they even have head of the US Constitution----Yes, no matter what the idiot did, they could have gone to school at least 4 years, before they get to be judge, accuser, and executioner.--No wonder EU people are staying away from here and Iraq/Afghanistan with all the killings by US "force"!
As usual Bloomberg answer to any problem,is ban.ban.ban,...Tight gun control doesn't work..there are hundreds of millions of guns,and even if a thug couldn't get a gun a thug will find other ways to commit their evil and the innocent would suffer even more. And all we're going to hear in the liberal media is the demonizing of guns and no stories about how guns do good in protecting the innocent,and there will be blackouts on other assaults and killing that doesn't involve a gun...and they're many...This is the spreading of propaganda and blacking out stories by the media for their liberal agenda, just like the media did all through the election. Bloomberg's own a$$ is well protected by armed security and he has no problem in issuing carry permits to his rich friends,a right he denies to everyone else. This sounds more and more like a dictatorship,and this the direction we're headed with the likes of Bloomberg and his ilk...Bloomberg and Emanuel,and all of those foaming hypocritical liberal politicians are concerned only with their "over the top progressive liberal ideology",and bury their empty heads in the sand to the real truth.
As long as the economy is this bad sick individuals will take suicide by POLICE as a way out. Police waers bullet proof vests as part of their uniforms,they were shot in the lower part of thei body, what does that tell you? ???? Crimes rises with bad economy, goes down with good economy... If the economy does not improve there will be more senseless suicide by POLICE..
Once again, the gun grabbing Liberals twist a story into a call for more gun control. The first gunman had a criminal record, including a felony which means he was breaking the law just by having the gun. I fail to see how 'tighter gun control' would have made any difference with this criminal. The second also involved criminals who were, I'm sure, in possession of illegal firearms. What your average Liberal fails to grasp is the concept that criminals do not follow the rule of law. That is why they are a criminals. Tighter gun control would have done nothing to help these 2 situations. Gotta love how Liberals never fail to exploit a tragedy - no matter how big or small - to advance their agenda. At least you idiots are predictable.
independent...good posting...and Absolutely.. the media will twist a story to fit their liberal agenda...and that's mostly all they do now,and the real unbiased truth rarely is known..Our news sources has become a liberal propaganda outlet...and America is becoming more and more socialistic,and it's frightening that this is happening in plain sight,and most of the people don't even realize how were being "conditioned" to think.
brass: Absolutely. A real mind-grabbing opening line - "..the gun grabbing Liberals..". Just rings with critical thinking and objectivity - don't you think? I'm going to subscribe today - right after my lobotomy.
"..most of the people don't even realize how were being "conditioned" to think." Can you imagine?
You don't need another lobotomy..the first one is enough.
I can't help but wonder, how many of you gun grabbers have been in a position where you or someoneone you loved was killed or severely wounded by some thug, and the situation would've turned out better if you or someone around you would've only been armed? I'm guessing the answer is none. Well, I have been in those situations before, and I'm ONLY still here because I WAS, and STILL am armed. I live in Kentucky 'ya see, one of those evil gun toting, bible hugging, YOU keep your change states that all of you rat race chasing fools like to retire in, cause it's so slow and peaceful. Then your cripts and bloods etc. grandchildren come to visit you and decide that all us slow talking, backwoods, rednecks make easy prey, when they try something, everyone in town sticks a .45 in their face and hauls them to the poky, PEACEFULLY, without having to fire a shot. Yeah, I think I'll keep my legally owned firearms, 'cause I'd like to live long enough to retire too.
I wish I ws still in KY.
I didn't have a 45 I had a 38 snub nose. But same effect when I stick it under your nose and and tell you I am going to give you a bigger hole to breathe thru....
The results are always the same, kid pees his pants, backs up, and decides oops wrong house.
This guy had assault charges against him, which I assume are felonys in New York. Felony=no firearms. Another case that tighter gun control will NOT work.
Sure it will. If the guy he stole it from hadn't had it in the first place, there wouldn't be one to steal.
You're not very smart.
If you can't think that clearly, you can't be a responsible gun owner.
God, or whatever....
There are hundreds of millions of guns in this country..and do you really think that if there were gun bans these guns would disappear ?? typical liberal thinking.
Who said he stole his gun? They are readily available on the street. You can find pretty much anything on the black market. Including military grade weapons. You could eliminate every gun in this country and the criminals will still have them. You don't think drugs are the only thing smuggled across our borders, do you? Typical Liberal. Can't think past your own agenda.
Ya gotta start somewhere. Better than not starting at all.
Or, you can dream of a future where every gun buyer gets screened (without using tax dollars, of course) for mental stability. Or where teachers are armed and students are on lockdown until the final bell. Or where every gun owner acts responsibly (LOL!!!!!!!). Or where guns grow on trees and you can plant AK's and AR's out in the backyard.
Typical cement-head thinking.
And where do those street guns come from, you dumb sh!t? And don't say Mexico, that would be retarded even for you.
Apparently you left your brains on the dresser this morning you idiot. Assuming you had any to begin with. I try not to waste my time with witless wonders but here we are. Go back to playing video games in your mom's basement and smoke some more weed. Because you obviously don't have a clue.
Independent...there's no reasoning with a mindless head rotted fool like this "god" moron they haven't the capability of thinking outside of their liberal box,because they're so conditioned.
Lots of meaningless words, stevo. Insult me all you want, but answer the goddamned question (you, too, brass):
Where do you think those street guns come from, you dumb sh!ts?
Neither one of you is smart enough to be a responsible gun owner.
god....Look... By far the most gun violence in this country is done by thugs shooting other thugs with illegally owned guns...Thugs get guns either by stealing them or buying them illegally ..and at the same time it's the law abiding citizen who are being demonized by the clueless...Now do you get it ??
"You could eliminate every gun in this country and the criminals will still have them." Hmmmm.
-god Let me know when rifles start growing on trees. I need an AK. I can save some money.
GOD, you are not only a moron you are also a hypocrite for telling people (whining about it really) not to call YOU names while you blatantly verbally assault ANYONE who tries to toss in ideas that involve compromise and solutions that would work for BOTH sides. You are also the most amazingly adept "human being" at ignoring base logic a five year old could see as easily as a Tom and Jerry cartoon. In Mexico it is illegal for civilians to own all but the most basic hunting weapon (you will find nothing more modern that a K98 Mauser rifle fielded first by Germany in 1898) and personal handguns are unheard of. Laws so strict yet more than 50,000 people have died at the hands of cartels better armed than that countries MILITARY? And go ahead, say it...the came from the U.S.. Now I'll break it to you...if they don't come from us then Brazil will be more than happy to boost their OWN economy as they have a large number of gun manufacturers and are very indiscriminate about who they sell to. Do you have ANY IDEA how many off the grid guns are in America? From current stolen production guns (recently here in Atlanta a train car was robbed of several CASES of AK-47 style rifles...think the thieves will file paper work on them?) going back to war trophies from WWI to present (anything from K98s M1A1s, to Lugers to P38s to Webleys to SKS' to...even your dumb ass must see the picture now). Every gun I own is bought legally, yet if I ever suffered from a momentary case of The Stupids (you, God, are apparently suffering from a chronic version that sadly has proven resistant to all known forms of treatment...knowledge, logic, compromise, reason, humility, and the most obvious, accepting COMMON SENSE) I can drive twenty-five miles from my house and purchase anything from an old H&R .32 revolver to a Desert Eagle .50 cal pistol to a nifty little Calico 9mm rifle with 50 round mag! There are THOUGHT to be something like 300,000,000 guns in the U.S. but you go on ahead and ban guns and you'll see how far off that figure is. God why don't you go troll somewhere else. I hear there's a wonderful discussion on Tampon in the health section...right up your alley you....
You redefine the term "dip@!$%#" and should change your name. God could never PRETEND to be as ignorant as you.
"When asked for identification, the suspect appeared to reach for a wallet, but pulled out a 9-millimeter Taurus and opened fire on the officers, Kelly said. Kozicki, 32, was hit three times -- once in each thigh and once in the groin. Levay, 27, was hit once in the lower back but was able to return fire, fatally shooting the suspect."
At this point, I think you can call him a perpetrater, not a suspect.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Thank G-d that those cops are going to make it .However this just goes to show you ,that even if you take guns away from law abiding citizens,criminals will always get their hand on them no matter what.also bloomberg is a friggin idiot.when are new yorkers going to finally get him out of office? If he didn't have all of his wealth he wouldn't be such a zealot.
Those who don't live by the sword, can STILL die by the sword.
Goodbye Bloomberg and good riddance. This billionaire elitist ass bought himself a 3rd term and circumvented the will of the people who voted for term limits in 2 seperate referendums. Bloombucks get lost already. Prior to the next blizzard please fly to the Caribean and don't come back.
Someday we won't vote a Mayor into office who isn't an idiot.
hahahaaha Bloomberg was spot on when he quoted that NRA statement about a good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy with a gun. THATS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED HERE! He didn't even own the gun legally because of the 5 assaults on his record. SO WHAT WOULD STOP HIM FROM BUYING AND USING A GUN UNDER RESTRICTION?
P.S. BLOOMBERG IS A FUGGIN IDIOT
the only good criminal is a dead criminal!!
Off duty Cop, NOT carrying a weapon? That is very strange. I carry when I am mowing my grass or playing Golf, and I am not a cop.
Do you shower with it, too?
I shower with mine...
Shower a spray of bullets at the targets in the range!
-god I like showering with my rifle. Takes the carbon off. I even talk to it once in awhile. We are going out on a date tonight. Jealous?
"The unidentified suspect had a past criminal record of five assaults, including one with a knife, officials said."
I will be impressed when Congress and our local leaders do something about the illegal guns in our country. Leave the legally obtained guns and law abiding gun owners alone. Bloomberg live in a cocoon of armed protection, but the lawful citizens of NY can't. Hypocrite!
Interesting things about "gun control" laws:
A) They only affect the law-abiding.
B) They do nothing to solve the underlying cause of violence in any form.
C) They create a new class of criminal.
D) They violate key parts of our constitution.
E) They keep no one safe.
We law-abiding citizens have an unalienable right to keep and bear arms for our defense and the defense of our prospective states. This right is ours regardless of what the constitution says, and all that the second amendment does is prevent congress from making any law infringing upon that right. Unfortunately, congress has already shown by their actions that they do not respect the second amendment and will look for every way they can find to defeat it. This is completely unacceptable.
If you really wish to halt the violence as opposed to infringing upon the rights of citizens, take a good hard look at the realities of those American cities with the lowest violent crime rates vs those with the highest violent crime rates and see what you find which makes the true differences. In other words, trust facts, not emotions.