GA Scooter

Seems this New York guy bought into the story of the CA "chef" that slow cooked his wife a few months ago at his restaurant up near Yosemite, Wonder what kind of herbs and seasoning he planned for?

telling a co-conspirator that his oven is "big enough to fit one of these girls if I folded their legs."

I guess he could truss her up like you bake a turkey ;>)

Silience of The Lambs anyone???

Jame "Buffalo Bill" Gumb: It rubs the lotion on its skin. It does this whenever it is told.
Catherine Martin: Mister... my family will pay cash. Whatever ransom you're askin' for, they pay it.
Jame "Buffalo Bill" Gumb: It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.
[to his dog, Precious]
Jame "Buffalo Bill" Gumb: Yes, it will, Precious, won't it? It will get the hose!
Catherine Martin: Okay... okay... okay. Mister, if you let me go, I won't - I won't press charges I promise. See, my mom is a real important woman... I guess you already know that.
Jame "Buffalo Bill" Gumb: Now it places the lotion in the basket.
Catherine Martin: Please! Please I wanna go home! I wanna go home please!
Jame "Buffalo Bill" Gumb: It places the lotion in the basket.
Catherine Martin: I wanna see my mommy! Please I wanna see my...
Jame "Buffalo Bill" Gumb: Put the *f-ing* lotion in the basket!

That was a good read. The cop in that book was a demon.

Funny stuff Dawg Pound!

Defense lawyer Julia Gato had said in court Valle's online chats were "just idle talk," pointing out no ropes, chemicals or other suspicious material were found in his home.

"We're talking about someone with a fantasy, in a deviant world where people talk about unreal things," said Gato. "At worst, he has sexual fantasies about people he knows."

And I'll bet you that defense lawyer Julia Gato isn't one of the below:

According to the criminal complaint, Valle had files on his computer that referred to at least 100 women, including photographs, addresses and physical descriptions.

If she was, a totally different story huh, Julia?

Is it just me, or do people who claim "this is all just fantasy stuff" not realize how foched up they are?

I have fantasized about winning the lottery, travelling the world, maybe even having hot crazy sex with famous people...

but ya know i've never fantasized about killing people, ever.

and i think if you do, you've crossed a line that suggests society is right to limit your freedoms.

it's merely a matter of time before a sick f'er like this guys goes from fantasizing to acting out on his desires.

you know, i play the lottery hoping my fantasies come true...what do you think this guy is doing to satisfy his current desires?

People are nuts, crazy, ... did these people never eat bacon.

Bacon is so much better than anything on this planet, or even worse its Mexican evil big brother the chicharon. BACON !

"According to court papers, Vanhise and 28-year-old (NYPD Police Officer) Gilberto Valle, who was arrested in October, may have plotted via e-mail to kidnap and eat women"

This should serve as an object lesson. Always speak to an officer of the law respectfully, and never, never, EVER use the slang expressions "bite me" or "eat me"!!!

;-)

Always speak to an officer of the law respectfully, and never, never, EVER use the slang expressions "bite me" or "eat me"!!!

LOL

This make believe on-line BS chatter describing crazy fantacies only brings out the "real" mental degenerates that will act out for real. If they believe someone else suggests having similar and "real" tendancies towards this type of behavior as being normal like them...disaster waiting to happen.

The whole idea makes my skin crawl. Just to imagine that these people think this way makes me believe that I do not have enough ammunition for my guns. Another reason for people to fear all the crazies out in the world. It could be that one of these persons may be living next door to your family?

So! This officer was suspended from the NYPD pending the outcome of this case, eh?

Well, regardless of the outcome of the case, PLEASE don't allow him to come back.

He may have broken no law, but it seems to me that anyone whose sensual thoughts, fantasies, and/or entertainments are of such a bizarre, warped nature...should NOT be appointed a public safety officer. Please don't eat the citizens.

the sad part about this story is that the lawyer says it's all a fantasy. People wonder what could have been done to help the killer of Sandy Hook or the killer in Colorado. They say there must be ways that we can identify this and stop it. Now they have a crack pot with stuff all over his computer , being laid off at his job fantasizing over the craziest unthinkable acts and the best the lawyer can come up with is that it means nothing, it's all just a make believe..lock them both up.....

Scooter

"At worst, he has sexual fantasies about people he knows."

At best he needs to be locked away for a long long time. He is a tragedy waiting to occur.

Oddly enough, Krispy Kreme stock is up over 10% today!

I wonder if they're playing to their stereotypical police market by experimenting with a new meat-filled doughnut.

Was the world always so sad and sick only we didn't know without chatrooms to lure the deranged into confessing?

when I think "I'd like to eat her", I am NOT thinking about putting her in a freaking oven!

"Gato said Valle was a respected officer in the NYPD, with six and a half years on the force. He was suspended from the NYPD pending the outcome of the case."

Respected for what his culinary skills? This is just one example of the quality of Bloomberg's "Army".

Next

Well, he's either mentally unbalanced, or a goat of some kind.

What do attorneys think when they manage to convince a judge/jury of the innocence of someone they know is guilty? It's just a job? You win some, you lose some? I wonder if surgeons have similar thoughts.

Notsosure10 wrote:

"...This is just one example of the quality of Bloomberg's "Army". Next"

Gosh, that's a pretty broad brush you are holding. The NYPD consists of more than 34,500 uniformed officers. You seem quite confident to characterize that entire police force by the thoughts and actions of one cop.

I remember the hundreds of NYPD police officers, sworn to protect and serve, who ran TOWARD the burning World Trade Center towers on the morning of 9/11/2001; many of them sacrificed their own lives that day in a incredibly courageous act of humanity, attempting to save the lives of strangers.

As you stand on the sidelines and cast aspersions about the men and women of the NYPD, ask yourself if you would have done the same that morning. Never-mind, your comment has already revealed your character to us. "Next."

34,500! Thats a lot of donuts.

"Cannibal Cop"???

Now THAT'S a new WB Television series plotline if I ever saw one!

New Reality Series?

Soylent green. In the not to distant future we will hear about mass production of a human based protein food. Mmmm, tastes like chicken. That'll be their corporate slogan. Oh, wait, ad campaign - Why eat soy? Eat real meat. News Flash - Halliburton diversifies! The greedy fokkers will probably charge you big time to bury them, and they will make "recycling" the affordable alternative, you will only pay a handling fee. Maybe I should go public with options now and secure my childrens financial future.

I would be willing to bet your right, just like the Michigan Militia nuts who were "planning" er, just "talking" about killing the cops at the funeral didnt get any punishment.

They were just exercising their "free speech" rights...

Here in America, we prefer to wait until they kill someone to "do something about it"...

And it sure makes me want to put a few of them at each public school too. Not...

I will trust a copy long before I trust you.

It should be enough to put him on a watch list and allow the woman to obtain restraining orders from him! And hopefully force them into some mental health treatment. We need to start addressing this stuff rather than just ignoring it since no one is dead yet..... yet....

I agree Kate! Hopefully nothing bad has to happen like the death of a woman before they can make charges stick to these creeps!

When someone starts talking about eating people, collecting information about their potential victims, and savoring how they might taste, in my mind it doesn't matter if they actually did it or not. They're sick and twisted individuals that do not belong free within society, ever again.

Not necessarily, Mindie. I'm no legal expert but in the State where I live, what he said sounds a lot like a "terroristic threat" comment. And if so, he could get convicted on such a charge.

I realize the laws vary by State, but I would think at least this is grounds for an injunction and a restraining order--or whatever the correct legal term is.

In any case, no one with that sort of sick-fantasy propensity should be in law enforcement. Ever.

Hmm, good catch. I missed that. Maybe they're also raising 'fryers'?

;-)

PS. And yes, I do feel ashamed for making that comment.

Wow I saw that too and was like WTF!? Good one Robert ;)

hey...baby back ribs...

well there's a local kid who said he was going to do something in school after the last school shooting, nothing more than talk and he's on trial tomorrow. It doesn't have to be against the law to be run through the legal system and besides there's more than the law to consider, the department may have rules against what he did and can dismiss him for it.

History addict-

Not sure what your point is. There very well might be a "local kid" on trial for saying something. But, saying something is not enough to CONVICT someone of something. That's what I said in my post above. Being "run through the legal system" is not the same as convicting.

Dumb.

They convict people all the time for planning to commit a crime.

You can fantasize all you want, but they went beyond that, and started planning. I am pretty sure the women they planned to eat didn't regard it as just fantasy.

What I would like to know is how did they figure it out, is the FBI mining our emails, there doesn't seem to be any other possibility. I have read about this case several times and there is never a mention of it, no one accidentally spotted an email or whatever, just that the FBI found the emails.

What is your proof of them planning to kidnap and cannibalize?

They convict people all the time for planning to commit a crime.

You can fantasize all you want, but they went beyond that, and started planning. I am pretty sure the women they planned to eat didn't regard it as just fantasy.

They talked about it just like people talk about their dream home or dream vacation or sleeping with someone. Just because they spoke it doesn't mean they can be convicted. If they didn't actively plan it i.e. buy/obtain the ropes, plan the kidnapping, or whatever else then they can't be convicted of anything. You can charge them with something but that doesn't mean they will be convicted of it.

OK Monkeys, you are arguing points that aren't true.

A second man has been arrested in connection with the case of an NYPD officer who allegedly threatened to kidnap, cook and eat women

Notice the word 'threatened'.

Valle, of Queens, was previously charged with two counts of attempted kidnapping in the shocking case that includes online transcripts of his alleged plans

Notice the word 'plans'.

Obviously it's impossible to argue either way without the actual transcripts, but I highly doubt the FBI would get involved if it was actually idle chit/chat. The only person making that claim is a defense attorney, not exactly a reliable source.

They had files on 100 women, but the FBI only interviewed 10. I am guessing those are the 10 they did more than fantasize about, but again, without the actual transcripts it's impossible to know. One can only make educated guesses.

But more importantly, this country has shifted in regards to free speech. How many people have we convicted of planning terrorist activities that didn't posses any explosive or guns of anything beyond the desire to do it.

And as far as a conviction, are you serious, there is no way a jury lets people walk who desire to eat other people. There is no way this loser and an unemployed cop retain the council needed to get out of this. The real question is what are they going to be charged with.

You always call others names that have a difference of opinion than yours?

ALLEGEDLY threatened.

Notice the word allegedly. It means he might have and he might not have.

Valle, of Queens, was previously charged with two counts of attempted kidnapping in the shocking case that includes online transcripts of his alleged plans

Notice he was PREVIOUSLY charged. Means the charges didn't hold. He wasn't convicted.

I'm not saying these guys don't deserve to be tossed in some windowless hole together for all of eternity. I'm just saying they have to find something that sticks.

Oh and I'm not a monkey I'm a girl.

"previously charged with two counts of attempted kidnapping..." You don't get charged with attempted kidnapping if the evidence is no more than idle email chatter about sick fantasies. The FBI clearly has more than is being released to the media -- perhaps details of an actual plan.

Hopefully they do have more evidence than what they are saying, AZskibum. I'm sure it would make those girls they have pictures of feel a whole lot better.

Notice the word allegedly. It means he might have and he might not have.

What ? The term allegedly is always used before the trial, it's only removed after a conviction. The media is obsessed with the term. I remember when they kept using it with Sandusky and to me it's so irritating. They could have HD video, and would still say the crime is alleged. Sometimes the evidence, not this case, is so overwhelming that drop the alleged moniker IMO.

There are girl Monkeys, and I was only kidding.

And I really hope they have more than just fantasy in this case, that they are going to put away 2 men for just discussing their innermost desires.

I think in the end we both want the same thing. For these disgusting, vile, pathetic whatever they may be to be convicted. I'm just speaking the fact that I'm afraid they may not. If all they have is what they talked to each other about then I don't think it will be enough. Everyone in the world hated Casey Anthony and was so sure the jury would convict and they didn't! I just hope it doesn't end up being a situation that it has to get really bad before they can do anything about it.

Mindie, Mindie, Mindie

The word "allegedly" is used by news journalists to protect themselves from libel lawsuits for saying someone has committed a crime before they have been convicted. It is the right to presumption of innocence that forces news organizations to use the word "allegedly." That's all there is to it. The word "alleged" means someone has claimed that a certain event or situation happened. Example, "the shooter alleged self defense after he allegedly shot the rapist."

If you'll read news more carefully, they always put the word "allegedly" for stories published prior to conviction. OR, they can say "police said he murdered his mistress," instead of printing, "he murdered his mistress."

I have worked surveillance for a number of years, our official legal documents are exactly the same as police reports. They are legally binding court documents. We can see something that is obvious say...a pack of Marlboro cigarettes... but are you REALLY sure they are? Could be Marboro Candy Cigs pulled from the same area as real Marlboro Cigarettes. So you report... object that appeared to be... or a red and white rectangular box with red and white graphics and black lettering...if you want to get overly technical. SO... "allegedly" is also used by law enforcement because everyone is SUPPOSED to be "inncocent until proven otherwise" in this country. *laugh*

Some of you seem to think that the government is supposed to follow rules and laws. That is not the case and a-lot of you supported the last administration to sign away a-lot more of our rights "because I have nothing to hide...makes me feel safer...good ol georgie knows how to keep us safe." when that vile administration signed the PATRIOT Act and pushed it through. It was extended under our current administration with more vile changes. I am sure our next administration will do "just a little bit more".

Now... I don't know about you...if ANYONE had documents and did idle bantor of cooking someone up, details on how they plan on doing it etc etc...it sounds as if it is in a planning phase. This idiot AT THE VERY LEAST should be locked away in an institution.

I believe that plotting with another person to commit a crime is called 'conspiracy'. Using public communication systems to conspire is a federal offense.

I believe that plotting with another person to commit a crime is called 'conspiracy'. Using public communication systems to conspire is a federal offense.

Of course no guilt exists with no crime or evidence. But Mindie Knows, no they were not talking just like someone talking about a 'dream home, dream vacation, or sleeping with someone'. I hope you are not confused about why, because that may indicate that your 'elevator just cannot reach the top floor'.

Without evidence, it cannot be proven that they were going to actually kidnap, cook, and eat these women. That is what I mean by my post.

Mindie, are you still harping on this point after 4 days, by restating the obvious ad nauseum?

Of course you cannot convict someone beforehand, and we all agree that they haven't "eaten" anyone (in a "bad" way) that we know of.

We get that.

You can stop now.

But, allegedly, that is not the alleged crime allegedly alleged against them.

I was responding to something someone said to me. You didn't need to check it or respond to my post.

Not true, society has declined hundreds of times, and every society that is no longer with us, declined right out of existence, like say the Athenians or even Native Americans, and yet I don't remember reading that Normans were eating each other before they disappeared.

I suspect there is constant rate of this kind of defect throughout all of human history, and the more people on the planet, the more people who want to eat each other. I would love to know how these two met and how the topic of eating people came up, "Hey bro, I am starving, sure could go for a my hot neighbors arm..."

Native American society didn't decline from within - they were slaughtered/infected by Europeans along with every other native population of the Western Hemisphere.

bobs ur uncle-

How many people smoke pot?

How many of those same people eat other people's faces?

Your arguement is silly.

100% of murderers drink water...we should outlaw water.

With that great reasoning, everyone should be on pot, because non-pot smokers, like the kid in Connecticut, do a million times more really evil things than pot smokers. Nice try

bobs a troll. A terrible one at that At least when Vivian, trolls she/he/it is sometimes funny. bob is worthless.

That guy in Florida also had "undigested pills" in his stomach. The positive test for marijuana was only in the initial toxicology test, and the full toxicology report was never made public, probably because he was on something like PCP and it wouldn't fit in with the media's ranting about the dangers of marijuana.

If this police officer was also a pothead, it would confirm the suspicions of some who wonder what happens to all of the confiscated pot.

That is stupid like 10 different ways, but namely Barney isn't into women.

Go watch more Fox News so you entire brain will be mush and you won't bother the rest of us with your intellectual diarrhea.

Diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the brain often go together.

It really bothers me a woman would defend these slime

Ready when you are, Sgt.Pembry.

As a woman I admit it does put an unpleasant twist on a traffic stop

can we just take them out back of the court house and drop them in a hole so they dont use up tax dollars????

My idle chat is about camping to football, wow! These two arent fit to be around those of us that dont want to be eatin!

I have to agree but I do think it is odd we can all make jokes about it. I guess it is human nature to cover up our horror but some pretty messed up stuff has become normalized in our world.

Seriously. Idle chat my ass. Send 'em both to a maximum security mental health facility.

Let's hope so! How about a new program to lock up the criminally insane--forever.