Buck, is it just me or does this guy have the same "nobody home" look in his eyes just like the nut jobs that shot up Aurora and Newtown?

Okee, he called 911 after 4:35 am. I'm willing to bet he hadn't slept for at least 24 hours when that mug shot was taken.

Most likely grandma couldn't afford a second tv out of her social security check after paying to feed and house her low life mooching grandson. You actually think if he had any kind of job he would at least have his own tv. Oh well now he gets to argue with his fellow murders which show to watch if they even have a tv.

What does it matter if they had a second tv or not; this guy is a nut job, he KILLED his grandmother. There is no justification. If he didn't kill her over that, then it may have been something else. Maybe over what to have for dinner. How can you actually take the life of someone you raised you over a tv show? I hope Bubba gets a hold of him and let him know killing grandma was a really bad idea.

Condolences to the family and friends. These senseless tragedies are usually a result of a dysfunctional individual, our system is very broken in this respect.

Our thoughts and prayers are with you.

Note to "parents" and elderly caregivers... if he/she is over 21, not going to school, and still living at home... it is not going to get better.

I have one living on both sides of my home. One is 25 and the other is 29. One mom says "he is trying to save money to move out" and the other has just given up. Where is the pride and shame nowadays? How can I reach the keeds?! When I was that age I could not wait to get out.

I think it looks like somebody is home...and they are ANGRY.

Guys that kill their own grand ma don't have a very good track record.

"I realize that a gun was not used in this murder, but..." I was just pissing my pants for any opportunity to make my pointless point.

Cheetah......Good one. Wish I would have said that. LOL!!

If there were two TVs in the house he would have killed her for serving the wrong kind of oatmeal. He is a lose cannon. The article said there was no reports of abuse in the past. Who knows how much the old woman put up with over the years; she said nothing to no one, and just endured.

ME generation strikes again.

At 25, you think he could have purchased his own TV, especially since he probably wasn't paying any rent or buying food.

He reminds me of my 7 year old nephew who is growing up with his great grandmother and great grandfather. At Christmas, he received presents first at one grandparents home, then my niece's home (his other grandmother) then at my sisters home (his great grandparents). I estimated by what I paid for my present and how many he got, around $1000 - $1200 must have been spent on him. Then his aunt told him that there was no more presents and he screamed, "I WANT MORE TOYS!!!" For me, that would have been it, I would have had him donate all of his new toys right then and there. But no, instead there was actually one more toy for him, one of those electric motorized cars which I don't know how much it cost (maybe $500 or so?), but add that to the $1000 - $1200 in presents he got. Maybe an hour later, I was outside and he tried to run me over with that car from behind. I heard him and turned around and got hit at full speed in the shin. What was said? Why couldn't I get out of the way in time!

Why do I think this man was unemployed, had no income of his own, and had been allowed, by his grandmother, to live there like an adult child?

Unless he is severely handicapped, at 25, he should either have his own TV, purchased with his own money, which he has earned, or, better yet, have his own apartment, social life, and maybe even a girl friend.

There is probably a long sad story behind this murder. The slaying of his grandmother was just the culminating event.

PJ, clearly you ARE wrong. This type of rage killing and the mass murderers are often white guys. The huge number of young men who are involved in killing in some other places are most often killing to defend some city block that they think is their territory--defending gang territory.

It is often the white guy who is going to go off on grandma, or kill his dad, or don a black ninja suit and arm himself with legally purchased guns and mow down a crowd.

I hear comments about how we, as a society, are not doing what we can to prevent these types of things. Really, though, what can WE do? How is any manner of "system" supposed to function that would prevent and intercede with these people? We cannot save some people from themselves, nor, can we save their victims. We cannot identify, commit, or lock up all the guys like these. That type of action by a civil society would be fraught with all manner of controversy and danger, of a different kind. That is the stuff of sci=fi movies.

He wanted to watch "The Devil You Know" but she lived it.

This happens all too often with these free loaders. They're brats. If they can't get their way, they rant and rave like a wuss. POS.

Grandma raised him from 3 yrs old and he returns the favor by killing her. Ugh....

Oh well..........guess he can now free load with Bubba...

I don't watch much TV, so for me the $64K question is:

What program could possibly be worth killing for?

And if I were the guy's defense attorney, I would try to get the court to accept this mitigating factor:

"Your Honor, my client tried to persuade his beloved grandmother to turn off the set, but she refused. The constant stream of violence, inanity, and blatant commercialism pushed him over the edge. We plead temporary insanity."

If I were on the jury. . . who knows?

Kahn K: Ge that kid some help or we will be reading about him in the headlines in a few years. If I had been in your situation I would have taken that car and deep sixed it and told him hit me again and you will spend the next four hours in time out and all your toys will be given away. Violence in one that young indicates a sociopath in the making.

he killed his grandmother following a debate over what to watch on TV.

The title of this article should have been "Debate turns deadly, without moderator."

This country has many people with mental health problems that are not getting the care they should. They just give them meds to take and most quit after they start feeling better. As a parent, I would not have a 25 year old sponging off of me unless they were seeking employment daily. The poor grandmother was trying to be helpful and ended up dead. What a pity.

good old fashioned TV violence in 3D !!!

Taken from 1.3...

... low life mooching grandson. You actually think if he had any kind of job he would at least have his own tv. Oh well now he gets to argue with his fellow murders which show to watch if they even have a tv.

I am always interested to see how quickly these things digress into pure partisan responses or response that are just juvenile uniformed judging. In this case 4.

This is another example of why the US needs to start to implement population controls. We have too many people and not enough jobs or resources for them. My first question is why is why is a 25 yr old man still living with his grandmother? Because we live in an enabling society? Because he is fat and lazy? We need to start holding people accountable at an earlier age and make them earn what they get. They will appreciate it more, and may even appreciate a human life !!! When it's an easy come easy go world people start to disregard everything.

@Nick Birke

I am always interested to see how quickly these things digress into pure partisan responses or response that are just juvenile uniformed judging. In this case 4.

What's partisan about the comment you referenced? Or for that matter "juvenile uninformed judging"? If anyone is guilty of the latter it would be you! By the way, at 25 I had a family and a home of my own, with more than 1 TV!

@hanne, stereotyping is of course wrong. That's what I tried to say in a sarcastic manner.

esox42, population control is a good idea but only the decent people will follow any rules. Going to get worse with 4 more years of the handout king in the white house. What a legacy he is going to leave.

Wow, there sure is a lot of JUDGING going on here. Truth is that none of you keyboard commandos knows what really happened, let alone whether the guy had a job or not.

But I guess all of your lives are so damn perfect that nothing ever makes you mad.

davedfromdanapoin...: once convicted of a felony or a crime of domestic violence, you are ineligible to own, purchase, posses, have in you home or auto a firearm, FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE !

"...stereotyping is of course wrong..."

Why is it? Every day we all stereotype, it is also called being aware of your surroundings and the people around you. Ignore all our experiences and wake up in a new world every day? Like a goose?

I could drop you off in a neighborhood that would make you bite button-holes in the seat of your pants before you walked a hundred yards. Why? Because you would stereotype.

TheKhanKubla. You know that little brat ran into you on purpose. On his way to a rough life unless someone puts a muzzle on his behaviour...Parents fault! If that would have been one of my kin's kid, or heck, even my son's kid, I would have taken him out of the car and destroyed it right in front of him..into a million pieces.

ban T.V. and these high capacity program packages from dish and direct...it's to much for the public to handle...T.V. kills...

The guy was a college graduate and known to his freinds as a very gentle person. I am in no way defending his actions just trying to point out that just cause the guy is overweight and took a bad mug shot is not the reason to judge!!

Any of my fellow "vertically challenged' freinds out there know what I mean.

Imma guess he voted for Obama...

esox42

This is another example of why the US needs to start to implement population controls.

You get to go first -- the sterilization clinic is over that way.....

J R Browenstein

Imma guess he voted for Obama...

Imma guess you be a stupid, hateful, JUDGMENTAL jackass.

"How come he is not Black or Hispanic or Gay or Asian or East European or ... whatever?

I thought only those people did these kind of things. Clearly I am wrong."

How come if he is Black or Hispanic or Gay or Asian or East European or ... whatever, We almost never see a photo?

hahahahaha seems Obama is involved in every forum (relevant or not).. but really get a life people you LOST and move on....are you guys really that pathetic....seriously???

Wrong Kamanda, we all lost with Obama....

SIESTASIS

Kahn K: Ge that kid some help or we will be reading about him in the headlines in a few years. If I had been in your situation I would have taken that car and deep sixed it and told him hit me again and you will spend the next four hours in time out and all your toys will be given away. Violence in one that young indicates a sociopath in the making.

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While I don't disagree with you at all, there's a major problem with your solution. If you're NOT the custodial parent or if you don't have the support of the custodial parents ( and the way you describe the unfettered lavishing of gifts, I don't think you do), all you stand to do is make yourself the 'villain' and feed this brat's sense of self-entitlement. Unfortunately, I believe HE will get the family's sympathy and not YOU!

BAN HANDS...more people are killed because people have hands...now i think i'll go tie up my grand ma with her support hose and watch sponge bob...don't blame the nut's for these violent crimes...blame the object they use to commit them...granD ma is a big support hose enthusiast...LOL...

You know as much as I loathe all that Obama stands for this had nothing to do with him.

This person was probably raised from birth being given anything and everything he wanted. Nothing was his fault, it was always someone else. How dare someone not allow him what he wanted?! At 25 he should have been living a life on his own: Why bother with granny is gonna take care of him?

If they had had 2 TV's the issue would have been that he wanted to watch the other TV. Until we change our parenting styles as well as the school system and stop telling these kids they can do nothing wrong and deserve to be catered to in every way; we will continue to see this happen. We are raising a lot of little sociopaths right now and if does not stop this will happen more and more.

TheKhanKubla

He reminds me of my 7 year old nephew who is growing up with his great grandmother and great grandfather.

I dated a gal for a short time who had a son who had been basically raised by his grandparents, same deal, spoiled beyond all comprehension and the angriest child I've ever met by a LONG shot.

But if this is your nephew and he's living with his great grandparents it sounds like you may be the closest thing to a father he may have the chance to get. Instead of bitching about him on the net why not try to step up and take charge? Even if there is no legal remedy you could surely be the father figure he obviously desperately needs.

What this guy did was horrific, but at least he called 911 and fessed up instead of blaming an intruder. Clearly, he has some kind of problem to have become so violent, but he may not be "insane". He could have severe anger management problems. One punch could have killed Grandma. Don't get me wrong- he deserves prison, and will get it. One can't assume, however, that he is a remorseless sociopath. There are far too few facts in the story to support the wild allegations being made.

Man kills grandmother over what to watch on TV

What man????? If you mean that punky moron in the picture of this article, please correct your headline. That is not a man and he will find this out when he becomes somebody's bitch in prison.

I dated a gal for a short time who had a son who had been basically raised by his grandparents, same deal, spoiled beyond all comprehension and the angriest child I've ever met by a LONG shot.

I wonder about men who date a woman who has not raised her own children. Do you like 'em messed up in the head?????

The number of people in jail who were raised by other than their biological parents is a symptom of a bigger problem....people having kids who should not.

The common thread in all these murders is the gun. We should ban guns now.....what did you say, a gun was not used...well we should ban guns anyway there must be a gun there some were in this story what else could it be?????

ARE YOU SERIOUS??? Because I'm MORE wondering about the reason this lazy, fat POS at age 25.. is still living and BUMMING off of his grandmother!?? Where the hell are his worthless parents??? Since he was 3?? His parents should be held partly responsible.

tom-1768340

I wonder about men who date a woman who has not raised her own children. Do you like 'em messed up in the head?????

Actually she had her son when she was a teenager and lived with her parents for a number of years after. After she moved out with her son she still relied on them heavily for day care etc because of her financial situation. So as I said, he was BASICALLY raised by his grandparents.

Maybe a little more effort on reading comp and a little less on speculative judgement and you'd waste less of your time "wondering" about things.

Kari-398894

ARE YOU SERIOUS??? Because I'm MORE wondering about the reason this lazy, fat POS at age 25.. is still living and BUMMING off of his grandmother!??

Was he "bumming" off his grandmother or helping to care for her because she was too old to live by herself?

I'm not sure, the article doesn't say either way so what makes YOU so sure?

That's the thanks she got for raising the dirty little prick since he was three years old.

BACKCOUNTRY: You put it out there. When you say, "basically raised by grandparents" what are we supposed to think you meant?

Your the one with the reading comp problem. Say what you mean. Now I basically get that the child was raised by her mother AND maternal grandparents....still no dad.

I dated a gal for a short time who had a son who had been basically raised by his grandparents, same deal, spoiled beyond all comprehension and the angriest child I've ever met by a LONG shot.

Children raised in a loving home do not turn out to be the angriest children you've ever met. Do ya' get it??????

The part that pissed you off was when I said I wonder about men who date....., huh? Yes, I did note you said "for a short time".

Defence attorney: "This man did not commit this crime, his hands did".

Jury: "Innocent".

President Obama: "This cannot happen again, so I am banning the use of hands".

NRA: "If we ban hands,then only criminals will have hands".

Congress: "We are for banning the use of 'assault hands' only".

Etc.

I think the gun put him up to it, clearly trying to direct attention from its kind. Now we must focus our efforts on banning all tvs. That or making sure there are two in every home in America.

I seriously doubt mental health was at question here or anywhere else that there have been lives taken. (sarcasm)

Get a clue folks and lets not pretend that we know so much of what exactly is going on with every scenario. I see a lot of people with their *jump-to* conclusions and pass judgment so carlessly. Putting the cart before the horse does not get you were your trying to get to. For all of you anti-gun nuts and people screaming how violence is on the rise, well violence has been happening for a very long time and in more sinister ways, we just never had the oportunity to hear about it or see it as much as we do today. The media is our hook and we are constantly biting with ever increasing fervor. If you really want to make your *changes*, the first place to look would be to get people the help that need it and or get them off the streets or in some sort of care. There are a lot of people out there that give off strong indications that something bad will happen and we as a society are left to deal with outcome with no real tools to help them. I agree that there does need to be some stricter gun control but this is not the thing that will cure the diseases. You will spend your efforts to change something and end up with the same terrible results. MENTAL HEALTH is first concern and then other things can follow. Our focus is twisted and as askew as some of these other people that eventually end up snapping......and we wonder how it happens.

tom-1768340

BACKCOUNTRY: You put it out there. When you say, "basically raised by grandparents" what are we supposed to think you meant?

I assumed people would think it meant what I said not that she didn't raise the child at all.

Your the one with the reading comp problem. Say what you mean. Now I basically get that the child was raised by her mother AND maternal grandparents....still no dad.

LOL! Dude, I was making a simple statement. I'm terrible sorry that I didn't lay out in detail her child's entire life story. I certainly didn't mean to upset you so.

Children raised in a loving home do not turn out to be the angriest children you've ever met. Do ya' get it??????

Sigh, more speculative judgement. The child was spoiled horribly by her parents. They were good people and well intentioned but they just could not say no to him. He wasn't angry all the time but when he didn't get his way he had problems.

The part that pissed you off was when I said I wonder about men who date....., huh?

??? What makes you think I'm pissed off and why on Earth would anyone get pissed by that statement? Dating is a pretty normal thing to do and if things don't work out you go your separate ways. What's the big deal?

Yes, I did note you said "for a short time".

Whoops, sorry for that again. I know how frustrated you get when there are no specifics. So the "short time" was 9 months. Just let me know if there are any other details you can't live without. I think I may still have some pictures if you want me to post them LOL!

What's partisan about the comment you referenced? Or for that matter "juvenile uninformed judging"? If anyone is guilty of the latter it would be you! By the way, at 25 I had a family and a home of my own, with more than 1 TV!

There was no partisan comment in the comment per se. In this case as far as juvenile and uniformed judgement... well how about:

low life mooching grandson. You actually think if he had any kind of job he would at least have his own tv.

"Low life mooching grandson" I would say this is at least uninformed, and really just a childish lash. With respect to the latter portion... to say that someone who has any kind of job could afford a T.V... this is also pretty uninformed.

@spike - You need to read Malcom Gladwell's "Tipping Point". It makes a good case for stereotyping and not. I don't disagree that stereotyping is a fundamental human survival instinct.

@Johnny - may be your turn blind when you see one of those photos.

After sharing a bathroom and doing chores the #1 issue of people living together (with 33% of the vote) is what to watch on TV.

This country is truly getting pathetic. Commenters on here are actually saying that a lack of a second TV is a factor in this murder. What are we going to legislate next? Every person in the country needs their own TV? Set up a department of televisions? Free TVs for the needy? This is ridiculous. We have zero accountability for anything in our society. It is never anyone's fault. There is the problem, people!

Kari, while I agree he was a worthless pos, who are you to blame his parents? Maybe they were killed in a car accident when he was 3. Or murdered themselves, which would open the window of emotional distress that created the sociopathy that he just displayed. More blaming somebody else or something else instead of the ACTUAL person responsible, yeah that will move this country into a better situation.

Lets say OUTPATIENT MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES..... Why was this sick young man in the care of his grandmother? Where were his biological parents??? To all of you spouting vitreol about him being "worthless" and grown children living with parents "worthless": You have no right to generalize especially in the current economy. People do all kinds of things to survive. Yes this boy had "issues". That is the understatement of the year.

Problem is, there were no appropriate services to address those "issues", so the "nonsystem" rolled the dice, decided not to keep him as an inpatient AND this time it LOST. Now we have one more mentally ill prison inmate. I guess he has the attention of the "nonsystem"now. I am terribly sorry for both of these people...Awful .

Meg-267733

Lets say OUTPATIENT MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.....

With all due respect you have NO IDEA what this guys problem is or if he suffers from any real mental health issues. For Christs sake the woman was 83 years old, for all we know he gave her a little push and she fell over and broke her hip or hit her head.

It's also worth noting that outpatient care is entirely voluntary unless ordered by the court. Since there was no history of violence there is no reason to believe this guy (or anyone else for that matter) would just seek out help on his own.

Meg-267733! Your following question is both thoughtless and naive...

Lets say OUTPATIENT MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES..... Why was this sick young man in the care of his grandmother? Where were his biological parents???

My question to you is - Do you live in US or another planet outside of the Solar system? More than 50% of all American children are born out of wedlock, and almost all of them are raised by some kind of grandma or grandpa... Most of these out of wedlock children do not know or care about who their biological parents are. Our social services are overloaded and inundated by these (illegitimate) children untill they are 18. If these children don't have a grandma, they are raised by the DSS supervised (?) foster homes. I think this 25 year old is a social parasite, a moocher who he lived of his old grandma's social security and or retirement, if she had any... Its a disgrace, the old grandma who raised him from age 3 gets killed by this monster who did not let the old lady die a normal death. He should be charged with first degree murder and should get the chair. He has wasted enough of his grandma's resources (including her precious life!) and taxpayers have no obligation to feed and cloth him in the prison. If he lives another 55 yrs that is going to cost taxpayers $2.75 million, and his life is not worth it. Put him in the firing squad, it will cost only 25 cents....

good you take him in your house just make sure he get his own TV

One of the bag brothers, Scum, @!$%#, and Dirt. He should be forced to hear all these comments in public, while he gets physically beaten by Brian Mills from Taken and Taken 2

Wow, one person does a horrendous thing and it paints an entire generation? Each generation has their own losers.

@ JohnRN

You are probably right.

She was most likely a member of the GOP and he looks like a Democrat...

Share the wealth!!! And don't forget the television!!! It might save a life......

Hey John from CA "today's younger and utterly worthless generation", I can generalize too. Since you are from CA, you are obviously either an illegal alien or a worthless tax, borrow and spend tree-hugging pot-smoking lazy hippie.

hey JOHN,....from california. why don't you stfu! the only one useless here is you. great to see more morons like you lump people together.i know plenty of useless lazy 50-60 somethings who hardly worked a day in their lives and plenty of resourceful and hardworking 20 somethings and vicea - versa.you idiot.please don't breed and stay in california.

Now that's funny. either an illegal alien or a worthless tax, borrow and spend tree-hugging pot-smoking lazy hippie

Ah John,

Honey Boo Boo is making her family rich. What are you doing?

honey boo boo's moma is hotter than kim k...i thought that was why people watched...

PLAIN BOB:

Most of the time....I just spew coffee all over my monitor.

Congratulations....you are the first one who made me puke all over it.

I don't know which is grosser....BB or KimK

MEG:

Boo-Boo isn't doing anything....she is being exploited by a white-ghetto family of fat slobs....and those who watch it are more lame than they are.

I have watched the show twice to see "what it's about". I was over it when they showed "mom" talking about the gunk and crap in the folds of her neck rolls.

WTF is wrong with you who watch it?

Tom... you watched it one more time than I did... After they mentioned her "biscuit" I about threw up and turned it off for good. GROSS!

KARI:

Biscuit????? I am drawing a blank. What is a biscuit? I guess that was a different show.

Don't respond if it will make you barf.

:)

Living with Grandma for the last 20 years. Maybe she could barely afford the first. Doubt he pr4ovided much assistance.

He does look like a loser leech. Instead of fighting over a tv program, maybe he should've been working and living on his own instead of mooching off of grandma. Now we may be the ones paying for this worthless waste for the rest of his life.

don't worry, where he is going, he will get his in the "end"

Hey Buck, Maybe this family did not have a second TV due to the fact she was 82 years old and The lazy fat A$$ of a grandson didn't work.Who know what he was spending her check on.

I am wondering why you don't have a second or third house, so your judgmental self won't ever have to worry about your kids making too much noise while you're watching "Dancing With The Stars".....

bennyover;

Where does it say that he was not employed? WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT!?!

Damn, the people in this @!$%#ed up country have become a nation of judgmental @!$%#s......

Grandma probably had a 19 in BW no cable and was watching the 700 club!

the quacked one, You are right It doesn't say that and I am wrong for thinking that as for calling me or anyone else names you my friend can kiss my ass

"Gammy, I want to watch the Playboy channel"

"Sorry dear, there is a Golden Girls marathon on right now"

~Snap~

hey quacked one...or is it ducks ass.. I am withdrawing my apology for the fact that I was almost as stupid as you. seems weird doesn't it that some can just get it right and people like you can't

Thank you for posting this. You forgot to mention that he was recently suffering from headaches and other symptoms that are consistent with certain types of strokes. He did have job training, and his grandmother, at age 82, probably needed him at home to help her get out of bed in the morning and to assist her in the bathroom and to help her with groceries and paying her bills.

After reading the link that was posted, I agree. It seems there is a physical reason for his behaviour; as you said, possibly a tumor or something of that nature.

This is really a sad situation.

ElkMeadow, how is his grandmother needing him to help her with those things relavent - I'm not sure if i understand what you're trying to say?

ElkMeadow, how is his grandmother needing him to help her with those things relevant - I'm not sure if i understand what you're trying to say?

Amused Muse was implying that because he lived with the grandmother he was a loser, lying around just living off her "probably" SS payments sponging off her. The link he posted tells a story of a young man who was intelligent with friends of many years standing, who completed college and had lived with his grandmother since the age of three.

Just in recent days, he had a personality change, and was complaining of severe headaches and was hearing buzzing noises in his head. His personality had not been so radical that it stopped a neighbor from offering him a place to sleep for the night.

I hope there is follow up to this story following medical examination. Everyone says he was very protective of his grandmother. This sounds like a tumor.

ElkMeadow, he was unemployed and had never moved out. Also, a neighbor said that she was afraid of him. It's true that he developed strange symptoms recently, but I also stated that the TV was not the issue.

The neighbor said she was afraid of him, but she also said she offered to let him come in and spend the night.

Check out his FB page - he graduated in 2010 (graphic design) but was unemployed. I wonder how recently his symptoms developed.

Since this article leaves us no opportunity to call for gun bans, I suggest we ban FB pages!!!!!!!!

There are a great number of unemployed children living in their parents homes these days.

He is probably an anti-social loser who never grew up, sponged off of his grandmother, with a low tolerance for frustration and no job.

Doesn't make them "anti-social losers", clearly there is something else going on here.

Clarence Newcomb was supposed to be charged by the district attorney on Friday, although that was delayed when he was sent to the hospital with several health concerns, according to the police spokesman.

This man was an inappropriately treated mental patient. Being mentally ill does not make a person "a loser". Mental illness a scourge as dreadful as AIDS, Cancer or any other dread disease. The lack of compassion demonstrated by some of you reflects a dearth of education. Anyone who has suffered from a severe mental illness would not say the things you are saying here. People do recover, but it requires treatment. I am proud to say I spent my life working with mentally ill people and most of them were intelligent, wonderful and interesting individuals. I am equally proud to say I helped many of them find their way out of that dark night. To those so severely impaired, I atleast gave them support and the comfort of being with someone who truly cared about them as people. Shame on all you judgemental fools. You know nothing about people.

Amused Muse

I doubt that this guy killed his grandmother over television shows; they were merely the trigger. He is probably an anti-social loser who never grew up, sponged off of his grandmother, with a low tolerance for frustration and no job.

And you are probably an anti-social greedy pig who thinks that just because you like to work yourself to death and have no life outside of work that anyone who dares to not be employed for any reason is just a worthless @!$%#.

Hey, it's so easy to be JUDGMENTAL.

Thank You. I just love people who actually understand....

Amused Muse

Check out his FB page - he graduated in 2010 (graphic design) but was unemployed. I wonder how recently his symptoms developed.

And YOU have the perfect high-paying job, I suppose...... Do you happen to believe that there is a job at McDonald's for everyone in the entire U.S., too?

Amused Muse

ElkMeadow, he was unemployed and had never moved out. Also, a neighbor said that she was afraid of him. It's true that he developed strange symptoms recently, but I also stated that the TV was not the issue.

You "know" that the TV was not issue...how? Did you happen to actually know him or his grandmother, or have some kind of interaction with them? Or are you just being JUDGMENTAL and basing your JUDGMENT on the fact that you're lucky enough to have a paying job and don't live with your parents?

Or are you, just like this tortured young man, UNEMPLOYED BECAUSE YOU JUST CAN'T FIND A JOB?

Oh, hey, I heard there were job openings in Sri Lanka last week, maybe he should have gone there and applied for a job...... Or maybe YOU should.

The Quacked One'

there you have it unemployed and as far as people being judgmental you take the gold medal. You are no better than anyone else so take your BS with you

By your name calling and rudeness you are either a punk or a wannabee. Take a hike

The Quacked One

Or are you just being JUDGMENTAL and basing your JUDGMENT on the fact that you're lucky enough to have a paying job and don't live with your parents?

Whoa, sounds like a nerve was struck. Don't worry dude, you'll get back on your feet and out of your parents basement eventually. lol

or they can just feed him a bullet and save the taxpayers millions of dollars and prevent future murders

just kill him and save the tax payor some money

robert,

It is taxpayer.

If ROBERT-1824614 happens to work for the Government (in any way at all, even if only as a street cleaner), I say we remove ROBERT-1824614 from Society and lock him up somewhere -- to save the "tax payor" a lot of money by not having to fix his mistakes.

QUACKED ONE:

This is just an observation of the postings you have made to this point (I read fast):

You seem to be expressing a LOT of anger toward other posters......I sure hope you don't live in a one TV home.

sure he called he was thinking well grandma cant fix my loser fat ass something to eat anymore so i can go to jail and eat for free maybe i can now get a obama phone one thing is for sure i still don't have to work.and i will have my own TV.

I say "no."

more similar to william spengler killing his granny,then going on, to everyones surprise and killing again years later.

Real World david?

It is the "real world" that refuses to address the problem of untreated mental illness. That is the "real world". Grow up, grow a heart and DO something about it...other than blame the victim...

Now that sh1t is funny

I was thinking more along the lines of "Locked Up"

So that the TV-regulation crowd knows which shows need to be more tightly controlled.

Hi, DB.

Sounds like this young man might have a very real physical problem that caused his break from reality. Hope they follow up on this, but without a gun involved it will probably fade from interest.

Sensationalism. More grubbing useless details by talking heads for a 24-hour news feed.

Well it ain't so funny when you've got cockroaches like this living in YOUR house. Now myself I've got TWO of them...a coupla thirty somethings from my wife's previous marriage to a hillbilly petty thief from Missouri. I'm hopeful because one of them actually landed (Finally) a living wage paying IT job and is looking at moving out and getting his own place maybe next year (When he turns 36).

My daughter on the other hand, just turned 20 in November, has her own house across the river, and is working as a Physical Therapy Assistant making over $50k a year. She's been out of the house for over a year, and she still has about 4-1/2 more years of college to get her PT Doctorate (because that's what they require for the license now).

But a word of warning, I read one of these stories a coupla times every month, and invariably it's the same disgusting scenario. They find the old woman dead, the victim of a vicious physical assault, the neighbors are all shocked because she was such a sweet woman and lived alone...with her POS freeloader son or grandson, and they just can't imagine who would do such a thing...until the POS is arrested and charged (Usually within a day of two).

Why? Simple really. The loser has been sponging off momma all his worthless life, and now suddenly she's too old to sustain herself (Let alone a full grown bum piece of baggage) so she's facing the nursing home. Problem is, that with not much left in the way of savings after supporting the loser for all those years, she's also looking at public aid homes (because the average cost for a nursing home is about $5000 a month), and under most state laws (In Illinois it's definitely the law), her assets and holdings become the property of the state once she enters the home (even her SSI check).

So the POS panics. He KNOWS he's gonna be out on his worthless @ss, and since he's too lazy to work...he croaks the old lady in some stoned out stupid attempt to get the house and what's left of her money in an inheritance. The cops however aren't buying his mindless BS and they drag his punk @ss off to jail (Well at least he'll get 3 hots and a cot...just no more XBOX)

Now myself, I keep a ball bat, an 18' combat knife, and a 9mm within reach as I'm laying in my bed. That's the reality of having loser adult kids living in your home. Have I ever been physically attacked by them? You bet, lots of times. Just didn't work out so well for them that's all. But time is my enemy, because I'm just getting older (and gradually weaker) and they're just getting stronger and more stupid.

So if you think it's just sensationalism and invented drama, think again. It's actually an epidemic in this Country, an unspoken epidemic of almost an entire generation of worthless loser parasites, who contribute nothing to society, and contribute only expense, legal problems, emotional grief, and hardship to their families. And when you hear about these murders, and most of the mass killings like Aurora and Newtown as well, it's these worthless basement dwellers who are committing these crimes.

Hi James,

I read your post... My condolences. Congratulations to your daughter. I have an idea for you. Why dont you sell your house, move into into a senior complex and leave your step children to fend for themselves?? Why should you have to sleep with a big knife and baseball bat in your OWN HOUSE.

Get out of there before something awful happens. Good LUCK

JamesGriffin - Im praying you make a better choice in partners next time.

Amused Muse

Sensationalism. More grubbing useless details by talking heads for a 24-hour news feed.

You mean just like your own sensationalising of your "anti-social loser who never grew up, sponged off of his grandmother, with a low tolerance for frustration and no job"? Yep, you are so quick to JUDGE others.....

James Griffin-302437-330428

Time was when kids would live with the parents all their lives, because of how much love the kids and parents had for each other. Everyone would actually help one another, and the kids were not required to pay rent because they were Family... But now kids are "required" to move out as soon as they graduate high school.

Tel us all, James, does you daughter hate you so damn much that she just couldn't wait to get the @!$%# out of your house?

WOW, QUACKED ONE..... you REALLY DO have major anger issues.

JAMES: I have 2 sons. My older son got into a similar relationship. There is one BLARINGLY OBVIOUS solution which you (nor he) could see till it was almost too late.

I have been in a place in my own life that I recognize a frustrated "help" when I see it.

To heck with the kids, and to heck with your "wife?". For several years I watched him be abused, physically and mentally/emotionally. Yes, she was even arrested for it. My son plays semi-pro football at about 265lb and she was about 140lb soaking wet.

One. If your wife had the love and respect that a wife has for a husband, kids would be gone. Living in fear and resentment ain't living. You deserve to not live with the below quoted circumstances:

Now myself, I keep a ball bat, an 18' combat knife, and a 9mm within reach as I'm laying in my bed. That's the reality of having loser adult kids living in your home. Have I ever been physically attacked by them? You bet, lots of times. Just didn't work out so well for them that's all. But time is my enemy, because I'm just getting older (and gradually weaker) and they're just getting stronger and more stupid.

They may be getting more stupid, but you are STAYING stupid.

Here is some tough love for ya' buddy.....................

How badly do you feel about yourself that you subject yourself to this kind of treatment? I expect you do love your wife, but the feeling ain't mutual. I would be willing to bet that you are the meal ticket for all three of them; am I right?

In case you can't tell, it was horribly painful for me to watch my son live it.

Take responsibility for your own happiness. In a way, you are exactly like the kids...afraid to be out on your own.

Okay, I kicked your ass in public. If you would like some meaningful communictation which may help YOU, click on my avatar and email me. I don't candy-coat. Live is too short.

Here's to hoping someone beats some sense into you.

Well Quacked One,

I don't know how many times you had your ass kicked but by reading your ignorance it must not have been enough. from what I have been reading you are one of the most ignorant jerks i have ever seen on here.Hows that for Judgmental.. wow such a big word

@Alex5150

thank goodness grandma didn't keep guns in the house, or this very average american would have taken a few other people out.........

How do you know grandma didn't have guns in the house? You don't! There could easily have been guns there. Troll much?

You must be a left wing nut job or on your knees for Obozo.

I am really torn by the gun debate but I do know that every time a pro gun post goes up that also includes insults to the President or calls anti gun people "legt wing nut jobs" you are only hurting your cause.

BTW, It cuts the other way as well!!

And your reply stands out above the rest because of what? lol if you have nothing to say, why bother?

Clarence Newcomb told police that he physically assaulted her and did not use a weapon.

Why?

At the link I posted, a neighbor claims that he had a black belt in karate.

I watch Dexter....muuuuu...aaawwwww, muuuuu...aaaawww.....but I don't medicate.......

Ray. Sarcasm, that's why.

Just not very good sarcasm.

no, just time to blame you for being such a total Dick

@Alex5150

I watch Dexter....muuuuu...aaawwwww, muuuuu...aaaawww.....but I don't medicate.......

Perhaps you should!

Yeah but he was watching a show about gun control.

I would not be surprised if his parents were not in the picture, and perhaps were never even married, and if he and his grandmother devolved into routine verbal abuse and sniping that I have seen with adults living with lifelong caregivers.

However, the angry twenty-something ICP ne'er-do-well who lived next door to me (and who I think stole my laundry) was raised by two parents - two very dysfunctional, uncommunicative parents. When the family started vandalizing our fence and threatening to beat us, we sold the house and moved away.

Wow! I know that must have been scary. I'm meeting more and more parents who have adult children who've never left home and they're experiencing problems. It's not surprising that they are because many of them allow their adult children to live at home without any stipulations. Many parents don't know how to parent.

Has everyone noticed that every one of these individuals who have murdered people lately all have the same blank mad-dog facial expressions - especially the murderous look in their eyes. WHAT GIVES?

Actually AQ I'm thinking it was the TV's fault. Call your congress person and demand an immediate TV ban.

Managed to sneak back in after being banned yesterday, and mention the NRA as well?

We were really looking forward to the week without you!!!!!!!!!!

LOL, you wish, sorry that the truth gets out even in the face of censors who demand that parts of the Constitution are held up as biblical truth as others are trampled. The NRA will always be in the discussion of rational gun sales and availability because that is where they put themselves. Sorry for the return to issues that we CAN deal with rather than talking points coming out of the NRA.

Maybe you can answer the question: Where do the high capacity assault weapons in the hands of criminals and the insane originate? Are they just showing up in the closets of gun owners from outer space, or are they being purchased by delusional fanatics as a result of NRA paranoia spread over the last few decades by extreme right wing fanatics who took over the NRA in the 70's?

I stand with those who hold the latter. YOU?

PS, the only way to expose the lies and distortions coming out of the NRA (designed to satisfy the funding sources of the excessive salaries of people who publicly admit they are crazy) is to bring the reality of their impact on society forward. For once, think about it and let go of the mantra spouted over and over about the rights of people in the 18th Century as though it applies to us today.

the NRA doesn't sell guns dip@!$%#

"NRA does not sell guns" now there is a mentally ill person in a very serious way!

The NRA is an arm of the gun industry, weruledaworld. So now you see it is you who is the dip@!$%# with a @!$%#ing stupid avatar to boot.