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A Bronx robbery crew posing as police officers planned to rob a heroin distribution ring Wednesday but walked into a Drug Enforcement Administration sting operation instead, law enforcement officials said. The crew were armed with guns, fake police vests and shirts.
NEW YORK — A robbery crew posing as police officers planned to rob a heroin distribution ring Wednesday but walked into a Drug Enforcement Administration sting operation instead, law enforcement officials said.
Using informants, DEA agents were able to infiltrate the Bronx gang which planned to carry out the drug deal rip-off and arrest the 16 suspected gangsters. The crew, allegedly led by Javion "King Kong" Camacho, were armed with guns, fake police vests and shirts.
Prosecutors said Camacho boasted to an informant that the "wolves are hungry" and that he liked the sound of "the job." In addition to recordings, investigators said there were text messages about the plot.
DEA agents said the suspects were set to carry out the holdup using a caravan of six cars, guns, ski masks, police T-shirts and a police scanner. Camacho admitted he was caught "red-handed," according to court papers.
"As alleged, this was a marauding gang of armed and violent thieves in the Bronx who masqueraded as police officers in order to trick their narcotics-dealing targets so they could steal their drugs and their cash," U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said.
Read more stories on NBCNewYork.com
Others arrested and charged include Gary Sanchez, Ramon Jiminez, Victor Morel and Joshua Roman. The suspects were expected to be arraigned in Manhattan federal court late Thursday.
Attorney information on the suspects was not immediately available.
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Cops that do this sort of thing ought to get life in prison, or better yet executed. They are like 5 times the threat to the public than a regular criminal. They are the worst of all bottom feeders and should just be exterminated.
Try reading it again! They were FAKE COPS! A GANG in the Bronx That was infiltrated. Wow, dont comment if you dont read the article.
Home schooled Rocky?
In Los Angeles, the LAPD's Rampart Division, Lt Perez did exact that. He and his gang of policemen extorted, robbed, looted, stole drugs from traffickers, suspected traffickers and innocent illegal immigrants. When some refused to cooperate, he shot some of them, One victim was paralysed. To keep the traffickers in line, he would arrest some of innocent bystanders and had them imprisoned by submitting perjury testimoney.
As the huge profit of the narcotic trade proves too enticing, many cops have joined the drug business directly and indirectly. Some of the "shoot out" between cops and a shooter is not what the police report had claimed. The narcotic trade is dirty business.
WallSt...WOW! ONE whole example! That PROVES your pathetic point!
they weren't real cops,fake,dressed up.
Probably more like public schooled.
John, more likely Public/Union school dropout.
Rocky,
What cell block are you posting from?
Rocky Rhode - All I can say is I hope you are not working in air traffic control, or in any other field where others are dependent upon the acuity of your observations.
i figure the dirty cops got the other dirty cops...get'n into their cookie jar...you pay for police protection when you're big time...may be i watched scar face to many times...but you can never watch to much scar face...
Something's not right about this somehow. Can one be prosecuted for attempting to steal drugs from dealers?
Guess dealers reading this story will sleep better tonight knowing cops are protecting their trade.
Cynical, yeah I know . . . sorry.
Just more stupidity surrounding the so-called war on drugs.
hope and rocky,
are you both senile or just don't have any reading comprehension skills?
They were armed? Impossible, guns are illegal in NYC!
Hey john537378, my son is home schooled....he will be taking his 12th grade CA star exam this year.
Yeah, he does have issues though, the main one being that I wont let him go to college until he's at least 17, I think 13 is too young don't you?
Take it Easy Rocky, Please read the article in depth; then eat a doughnut and get a good night's sleep.
I never said these guys were cops. I said cops that do this sort of thing..........
You all assumed too much here. I have known bad cops. One I knew from high school. He was a total drug addict and used to rob places and cigarette vending machines. He became a Detroit narcotics officer. He bragged to me while he was drunk ( and I was not drinking), that he was "rolling" crack dealers.
I knew others that were convicted of sale of police evidence room contraband. I also knew others that were drinking while on patrol ( I gave them whiskey and coke 50/50 mix ), I also have had cops lie under oath during a court case against me. They said I was drunk off my ass and I was lucky they let me go when I passed 2 breathalyzers and I was shown the results. The cop gave me a reckless driving ticket which I was fighting. I got the ticket because I almost hit them as they were standing in the middle of the road in pitch black of night and their cars were parked about 50 feet away with all lights off.
Again, it was a general statement, and was only related to the article in topic.
Yes, Rocky, we all assumed your observances would be related to the story, which was not about bad cops.
Our mistake. We didn't realize you were just trying to hijack the thread and discuss something you experienced in your life ...which is oh, so interesting to all of us [insert yawn here].
...or perhaps you are now just trying to cover the fact that you had no !@#$ idea what your were talking about.
Funny, I always thought the squirrel was the brains of that old cartoon duo. I guess it was the moose after all.
Wonder how many of their guns were legally registered, OH wait I know NONE, THUG LIFE. Not to worry though they will be out in no time and right back at it, moneys to good for them to stop.
Ah Ah Ah I ain't done nothn officer, I was ah ah ah headed to a costume party, yeah that's it a costume party.
How many guns was legally registered ?/ _— most likely most or all of them but a majority that was registered was to people that had their legal guns stolen from their homes or place of business . Plus there are many a gun shops have ways of selling without registering the guns and the manufacturers are "gun runners' as well.
Did any of the DEA agents have any hookers for hire?
That right they only supply hookers to the Secret Service that isn't so secret about their preferred sexual apatite's? Hookers
Now which country did this heroin do you suppose came from? Afghanistan 800% poppy production since American occupation. 800% higher than the TALIBAN'S POPPY PRODUCTION EVER!
AMERICAN GOVERNMENT THROUGH AFGHANISTAN ARE THE DRUG DEALERS & PIMPS OF WORLD FOR HEROIN
Why do you think they killed PAT TILLMAN? He was going to blow the whistle...
HOW IS GUN CONTROL GOING TO HELP THESE KIDS?
It is speculated that many of these missing children have been
sold on the human sex slave market that exist world wide.
Losing children is not something unique to New York City or the
District of
Columbia. The State of Illinois has managed to lose track of a number of
children in its care.[12]
The Illinois Department of Children and Family Services has also
managed to
lose track of the availability of its own foster homes, its system having been
described by the Chicago Tribune as: "a ludicrous tracking system
that
amounts to three-by-five file cards kept in piles by placement workers."[13]
The ubiquitous three-by-five index card would appear to be
something of an
industry fixture.
After a young boy was raped in a Massachusetts foster home, it
came to light
that Department of Social Services caseworkers and supervisors had apparently
managed to overlook a pattern of nine foster children having run away from the
home.
When asked how they could have overlooked such a pattern, DSS
Commissioner
Linda Carlisle said that with the Department's outdated computer system, there
is no way to check how many children have run away from any given home, adding:
"We have 3-by-5 index cards, manual records."[14]
But both the computer and the index cards were more than
sufficient for
department spokesperson Lorraine Carli just a few years earlier. After a
scathing legislative report revealing serious deficiencies in foster care
tracking was released, Carli said the agency had a good tracking system and
reviewed each placement every six months.
"We found that not to be the case," said Gloria Fox, a
member of the House
subcommittee on foster care, which released the report.
"Clearly, they're working on that," Fox said, but
"some people haven't seen
their social worker in years."[15]
Among the conclusions reached in the 306-page report:
court backlogs leave children's lives dangling from childhood to
adolescence; children shift from home to home in a pattern of "foster care
drift."
increasing numbers of children were entering foster care, DSS had
no reliable means for tracking the location of children in its care.
had, on several occasions, failed to qualify for federal
funding because it had not been in compliance with federal regulations.
shortage of foster homes in the state had resulted in many
children being placed in "marginal homes" only slightly better than
those from
which they were removed.
parents did not receive vital information about the children they
accepted, often resulting in less than adequate care.
minority children were entering the foster care system than ever
before, but because the system had few minority homes for them, they were being
placed outside their ethnic or racial groups.
"I feel we have condemned children to limbo," said
Representative Marie
Parente, one of four former foster children on the seven-member subcommittee.
"They are suffering silently."
Gerald W. Robinson, then the newly appointed Commissioner of the
Department,
took issue with several of the report's criticisms. He maintained that DSS did
have a reliable tracking system for its children, noting that confidentiality
requirements prevented the agency from furnishing the legislators with specific
information about children in its care.
He described the state's foster care system as
"excellent" and "one of the
best in the country," and said that though "all the problems the
report points
out have some validity, it just doesn't focus on the positive part of the
system."[16]
Javion "King Kong" Camacho, Gary Sanchez, Ramon Jiminez, Victor Morel and Joshua Roman
My guns are not registered--I am a Florida cracker--we love guns--the yankee tryed to take our guns in 1861--1865-we lost because of the number of newly arrived immigrants in New York--Honest Abe Lincoln put a gun in their hands and told them to go south to kill--burn--torture--burn our cotton fields--and no free labor to pick the cotton--and they put the picture of Lincoln on a penney--was he gay--read your history books
THIS PROVES THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS RUNNING THE GANGS.
If they can infiltrate meaning send in provacators to get gangs to do things... The Government is using gangsters and ganster rap to control a whole generation of people to become criminals. Psych Operations
Why? So the Gov can come in a save you from the criminals by taking your guns.
PRISON PLANET
Alan,
Honest Abe was all about human rights........
When will the cop's investigate CWA in NY to find all the missing children?
Too busy destroying the 2nd in the name of children!!??...
Cuoma where are all the missing children from NYC and NY state?
How is gun control going to protect children in state foster care?
How are you protecting these children that have been shuffled so many times CWA lost track of them and where are they?
All illegal aliens?
The DEA should have just shot all of them. It's a win win. Less criminals on the street, less lowlifes making lowlife kin, less drugs on the street, and less guns on the street. I may be exaggerating a little bit, but come on people if they are going to break the law then lets give them a real punishment!
Asking if they are all illegal aliens because of their Hispanic surname is tantamount to asking if all Anglo-Saxon surnamed people are child molesters.
In my county 80% of crime is done by illegal aliens. They are talking about increasing property taxes to build a bigger jail to house these criminals. The question is fair. I don't mind regular working illegals that much - they are better for the country than imports from China. But the Latino gangs and criminals should be sent to hard labor camps for life.
In my country 80% of the Child molesting is done by Anglo-Saxons ( Dahmer, Sandusky, Gacy, ad nauseum). I don't mind regular working Anglos that much........... Blah, Blah, Blah.
My comment is just as absurd as yours. Stereotypes.
or if they are mass murders...............it seems the latest round of mass killings has been done by anglo-saxon Americans. Maybe they go on killing sprees because they are mad about the immigration issues. Republicans and gun nuts like to blame things on unions, teachers, hispanics, the government, gays, disadvantaged, Obama, Hillary, etc...............it is easier that trying to understand complex problems. If the answer is bumper stickert sized they like it.
I agree marklepew. 'Us against them.' 'If you aint with us, you're against us.' 'RWNJ, Libtard, Muslim, Redneck, darky, marxist, commie, raghead, etc.' As one we were invincible, now there is discernable division.
Another sad commentary on our 'house divided'. Some people seem to want a 'Balkanization' of our country. There is strength in 'a Union'.
P.S. The terrorists do NOT want us United!
One good thing about stereotypes is that they are usually statistically valid.
d
What? The drug dealers did not have a heroin guarding alligator?
El Feo, good answer to Max 108. What a large lie by a Sheriff Arpaio type he bought into. So what happened to the gangsters that would have been robbery victims? Why arrest one set and not the other? Lots of stuff for the DEA to answer.
Hey Alan, what union do you belong to? If you don't please stop calling yourself a red neck!
Thank God the drug dealers' rights to free commerce is protected by the DEA. Could you imagine if those poor drug dealers would have gotten robbed?
So let me get this right, the DEA setup a sting to nab thieves posing as cops who had intentions of robbing drug dealers?
Seems to me that instead of using the tax payers money to setup a fake sting, why not setup real drug dealers with the fake cops, let the fake cops take down the real drug dealers, then the DEA can take down the fake cops and the drug dealers.
The beauty of this is, if the fake cops and drug dealers get into a shootout, then it's dirtbags taking out dirtbags. Once the shooting stops the DEA agents can go in and take down whatever dirtbags are left. This scenario saves the taxpayers money, i.e. judicial and prision costs, and saves lives of legitimate agents and cops.
Well the Drug Enablement Agency isn't about that... if that sort of thing happened too often they might find themselves out of a job. On a related DEA note, see the latest article on this nbcnews titled... "EXCLUSIVE:
DEA agents arranged prostitute for Secret Service agent". Yeah, them DEA agents is good people.
I for one and very happy my tax money is being spent getting over a dozen gang members off the streets. Now if only they get a REAL judge who will actually sentence them to real prison time.
By the way, you are a little bi**h and your own mother pray that you die every night. You are a failure at life and an embarrassment to her. The next time you have those suicidal thoughts that have plagued you for years, your mom wants you to give in to them. It is her lifelong dream to walk in her basement and find you dead.
Politics, your idea sounds perfect... If this were a nighttime TV drama, but it's not. When law enforcement learns of a conspiracy to commit a crime, they're obligated to investigate and arrest those who have broken the law. If your plan worked in real life, the cops could sit back and let gangs fight their turf battles and destroy one another. Of course, the reason this doesn't work is because we can't have bullets flying through neighborhoods and killing innocent people.
Maybe those are the cops Rocky is referring to?
Shiftlock
DEA has a reputation among law enforcement as being out of control rogue nut cases. They make bad cops look like choir boys.
Let me re-post this here:
Something's not right about this somehow. Can one be prosecuted for attempting to steal drugs from dealers?
Guess dealers reading this story will sleep better tonight knowing cops are protecting their trade.
Cynical, yeah I know . . . sorry.
Just more stupidity surrounding the so-called war on drugs.
My question to the NBC staff is... what happened to the heroine ring? No mention of them being taken down in the article, so I'm assuming that wasn't the primary goal?
hope,
you can re-post it again but it still sounds like you're retarded with the logic you try to convey.
I think they were all male.
"Once the shooting stops the DEA agents can go in and take down whatever dirtbags are left. This scenario saves the taxpayers money, i.e. judicial and prison costs, and saves lives of legitimate agents and cops."
Too much paperwork.
It would appear that the DEA has taken a lesson from the FBI on how to create crimes that get you noticed and keep the funding in place.
LOL yeah right. Like most people on these boards, Politics seems to be living in a make believe world where police/security guards/private citizens packing heat have impeccable timing and never miss their intended targets. Save it for TV, reality proves otherwise.
Shiftlock,
" When law enforcement learns of a conspiracy to commit a crime, they're obligated to investigate and arrest those who have broken the law."
Close but no prize - just because people are conspiring to commit a crime, the conspiracy part is not a crime. It's only when they act on that conspiracy does it become a crime.
Do you have even the remotest idea how wrong you are?
Op, op op op op, oppan DEA style.
kid, there's stupid, and then there's you
uuuuuhhhhh, what?
I believe what you are seeing is a young troll, not much experience, referencing "gangnam" style in a manner that quite frankly exudes stupid.
So one gang robs another gang that sells death to your soul.
The best outcome is they all shoot each other, the worst is that some people who really aren't producing anything of value get screwed and they all live to keep contaminating the human race.
What the DEA should have done is manipulated the situation so that they did all kill each other, walked in, seized the cash and drugs and guns, call in the sanitation department to get rid of the carcasses and go have a beer.
Hell they may have even got a few of our own guns back they sold south of the border. A win win for the DEA.
LOL Don't worry, WOMBAT. 'King Kong" and his gang are going to be real popular around the 'hood after this.
So, maybe another gang will shoot them or blow them up or stab them, and you can read all about the blood you thirst for.
the DEA didn't sell the guns south of the border, American citizens probably bought them in a straw purchase to then sell to drug cartels for a tidy profit. After all we can't infringe on American's rights to purchase and sell arms. I'll bet Ted Nugent sold them the arms south of the border...........his record sales have slumped and he needed a little spending cash.
Fast&Furious run by the ATF per Eric Holder. Which means per Obama. I guess you are happy about the several hundred Mexicans killed as well as Terry and probably Zapada. Way to go markypoo.
And how much do you want to bet that every one of these guys is back on the streets by the end of this year. Free to get an illegal gun again.
But oh yeah...it is the GUN'S fault...not the criminal, or the ultra liberal judges that sentence these criminals to hugs and unicorns instead of making them PAY for their crimes.
yes,I agree,build more prisons if you can't keep them locked up,put them to work.They spends thousands in court fee's only to let them back out.I would love to see the cost of a single repeat offender over his or her lifetime.
It must be the criminal's fault. The story didn't say anything about anyone being shot
Going to jail for robbing a drug gang is not a good idea. Some of those inmates could be members of the gang you tried to rob. They'll be really happy to see you. You won't be really happy to see them.
big deal,everyone will be out in no time, committing more crimes,murder's etc.It's like a revolving door,in and out.Build more prisons,we have to keep these criminals off the street,who have no have no concern for anything or anybody.I bet every one of them has been arrested before.
When is Bloomberg going to outlaw fake cops in NYC? That should fix everything.
They are still busy enforcing the soft drink limit law. Priorities, people. Duh.
i give them 30 days and they walk the streets again
good ol injustice system
they need to serve at least 20 years or more
keep this junk off the street so the other junk stays off the street to
heroin idiots they like it so much i got a sentence for them
O.D.
Go suck an egg and get off our posts.
Almost sounds as IF, the DEA was PROTECTING the Heroin Dealers here ??
Did they ALSO bust the Dealers that were to be robbed, or did they ONLY bust the Fake Cops robbing them??
Really?! There were no dealers. The cops set up the scene to "look" like dealers.
What?! Do you think the dealers called the cops and said that there are fake cops out there and they're stealing all our drugs and money?!
Then the cops came to the rescue and said "There you go, we got 'em for ya. Now you have a nice day and keep your drugs safe from these bad guys!?" OMG man....
It was a sting operation, There were no real drug dealers.
hmmm still sounds weird, I mean these guys are robbing Drug Dealers or have robbed Drug Dealers.... So the DEA set up a sting Operation to STOP or Catch these thieves from Robbing Drug Dealers....
If they instead stopped the Drug Dealers, they would not have to worry about thieves trying to rob them or set up Stings to catch the robbers....
Shelter,
What's the difference? The fake cops would simply "redistribute" the drugs making them drug dealers also. So the real cops "did" stop drug dealers.
The big difference is they (fake cops) wouldn't have to give a "drug supplier" his cut of the drug money...
Shelter,
I can reason why you are confused based only on the point that you did not read the entire article. The gang was robbing the dealers of their drugs and money (and weapons and any other valued materials) and THEN selling the drugs and other aquired items on the street themselves. They didn't steal the 'product' and materials for themselves (as if that would make this any better Shelter?).
As to your second made point, what makes you think the deal these gansters make to get short term sentencing will not include the names and contact details of every drug dealers and drug syndicate they have stolen from in the past as well as all the future targets they intended upon? People as a whole need to think things through before asking silly questions or making snide remarks but then, this wouldn't be a public poll of baseless trendy opinions and most of you thus wouldn't be here.
So they can set up an elaborate sting but can't stop the real drug dealers from getting their stuff? I guess any criminal off the streets, even for a few hours, is better than nothing. And, they get to put a mark on their board, get a few slaps on the back, awards, and maybe even a promotion. Meanwhile, the drugs are still on the street.
HEY!!!! STATE GOVERNMENTS AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS
YOUR ON NOTICE
HOW IS GUN CONTROL GOING TO HELP THESE KIDS?
It is speculated that many of these missing children have been
sold on the human sex slave market that exist world wide.
Losing children is not something unique to New York City or the
District of
Columbia. The State of Illinois has managed to lose track of a number of
children in its care.[12]
The Illinois Department of Children and Family Services has also
managed to
lose track of the availability of its own foster homes, its system having been
described by the Chicago Tribune as: "a ludicrous tracking system
that
amounts to three-by-five file cards kept in piles by placement workers."[13]
The ubiquitous three-by-five index card would appear to be
something of an
industry fixture.
After a young boy was raped in a Massachusetts foster home, it
came to light
that Department of Social Services caseworkers and supervisors had apparently
managed to overlook a pattern of nine foster children having run away from the
home.
When asked how they could have overlooked such a pattern, DSS
Commissioner
Linda Carlisle said that with the Department's outdated computer system, there
is no way to check how many children have run away from any given home, adding:
"We have 3-by-5 index cards, manual records."[14]
But both the computer and the index cards were more than
sufficient for
department spokesperson Lorraine Carli just a few years earlier. After a
scathing legislative report revealing serious deficiencies in foster care
tracking was released, Carli said the agency had a good tracking system and
reviewed each placement every six months.
"We found that not to be the case," said Gloria Fox, a
member of the House
subcommittee on foster care, which released the report.
"Clearly, they're working on that," Fox said, but
"some people haven't seen
their social worker in years."[15]
Among the conclusions reached in the 306-page report:
court backlogs leave children's lives dangling from childhood to
adolescence; children shift from home to home in a pattern of "foster care
drift."
increasing numbers of children were entering foster care, DSS had
no reliable means for tracking the location of children in its care.
had, on several occasions, failed to qualify for federal
funding because it had not been in compliance with federal regulations.
shortage of foster homes in the state had resulted in many
children being placed in "marginal homes" only slightly better than
those from
which they were removed.
parents did not receive vital information about the children they
accepted, often resulting in less than adequate care.
minority children were entering the foster care system than ever
before, but because the system had few minority homes for them, they were being
placed outside their ethnic or racial groups.
"I feel we have condemned children to limbo," said
Representative Marie
Parente, one of four former foster children on the seven-member subcommittee.
"They are suffering silently."
Gerald W. Robinson, then the newly appointed Commissioner of the
Department,
took issue with several of the report's criticisms. He maintained that DSS did
have a reliable tracking system for its children, noting that confidentiality
requirements prevented the agency from furnishing the legislators with specific
information about children in its care.
He described the state's foster care system as
"excellent" and "one of the
best in the country," and said that though "all the problems the
report points
out have some validity, it just doesn't focus on the positive part of the
system."[16]
Are you stupid? Why do you keep posting this asinine comment about missing children on an article about a drug sting?
Let him rob them who the hell cares if they lose their money, make them fair game so they must do business with a bit more fear.
While drug dealers are selling drugs to children, the police are spend their time, and resources protecting them? What's wrong with this picture?
Root, how do you figure the DEA are protecting them? It clearly said in the article "DEA sting operation"
why are there so many posters out today that either don't read the article, prior to posting, or that have serious reading comprehension problems?
Mark, that's not just today, nor is it just this article. These comments are always full of people who only read the headline and then start commenting.
Marklepew, it's called poor reading retention which is quite common these days in schools around the country. The article said, this one drug gang were preparing to dress as DEA cops in order to rob another drug gang of their drugs by using fake vests, police t-shirts, etc. Somehow the real DEA must have got wind of this and stopped that possible bloodbath before it could happen. I did notice the names of some of the would-be DEA agents had Hispanic names but whether they are illegal aliens or not is hard to tell.
"Using informants, DEA agents were able to infiltrate the Bronx gang which planned to carry out the drug deal rip-off and arrest the 16 suspected gangsters. The crew, allegedly led by Javion "King Kong" Camacho, were armed with guns, fake police vests and shirts."
Poor reading retention, by whom? If they were able to "infiltrate" the gang, there are many scenario's that would have put a bigger crimp in the drug trade. Like finding out their targets, and busting them "before" this gang hit them! But my poor reading retention skills prevent me from understanding why it's more important to arrest those ripping off drug dealers, and harming, or killing a few of them. Than going after their targets, and those they sell the drugs to after the robberies! The people who sell the poison to our children on the streets.
Would one of you sophisticated, and intelligent posters explain that to me?
Ok, I will explain it to you. The target was fake. Understand that? They hung a fake target under their nose, and then arrested them when they went after that. There was no drug ring that they were protecting. It was a FAKE drug ring. Understand that now? Or do I need to break it down more for you?
"That target" was fake.
"As alleged, this was a marauding gang of armed and violent thieves in the Bronx who masqueraded as police officers in order to trick their narcotics-dealing targets so they could steal their drugs and their cash," U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said."
"Targets" is plural, meaning more than one. And my poor reading skills have given me the impression that the above indicates these people have been doing this for awhile. And I'm sure there are drug dealers breathing a sigh of relief knowing this gang is no longer a threat to their business.
If you're saying this was their first job, and it was. You're right! If it wasn't, and you're wrong. What do you find wrong with my assertion that they should've used this gang to locate other drug dealers they weren't aware of, since they had an informant on the inside?
If it was up to me, I'd let the gang operate as long as they turned in the drugs, they could keep the money they took from the scumbag dealers.
The NY police really get ticked when amateurs try to horn in on their racket! These boys are in for a BAD time! And here, they just emigrated into USA to work hard and get the opportunities we offer - after all, the Irish and Italians came here and joined the NY police force.
I have to agree that these clowns off the street is cool Jazzman.
These are some hardcore criminals, willing to dress up like cops and gang up in six cars? They were planning an invasion! Cops would need a warrant to do the invasion they were trying to pull off.
Javion "King Kong" Camacho, you know he's dead meat. He's the ringleader and he got his whole gang tossed under the bus because he couldn't tell a cop from a dope dealer, he's an idiot. You know they're going to turn on him and rip his guts out. His legal troubles are the least of his worries. The law may not sentence him to death, but the gang sure will. Ain't nobody about to sell this clown a life insurance policy.
What was the name of that stupid biker gang on "Any Which Way But Loose" with Clint Eastwood? Wasn't it the "Black Widows" or something like that? They got their asses kicked and then they had infighting for getting their asses kicked.
This is going to be the same thing. You know this gang ain't getting back together happy. That entire gang got owned by the cops because the leader was a stone cold idiot. They'll kill the guy. I have no doubt in my mind that "King Kong" Camacho is a dead man on the street. He screwed over a dozen gangbangers. He probably doesn't even WANT out of jail because he's a walking dead man.
Never underestimate the stupidity of some people, especially the criminal element.
Wait a goddamn minute....who the fuk CARES if thugs rob other thugs? A gang of crooks goes around robbing dope dealers, and you want to stop them???
Although it would take out a few bad guys, that wouldn't get the drugs off the street.
Not only that, but it would put the drugs in the hands of the badder bad guys. That is not exactly an improvement.
We had a running gun battle between gangs here in Phoenix about two years ago and one thing about bad guys is they tend to skip target practice. They're not very good shots. They tend to hit bystanders more than they do each other. They missed each other but they shot the town to Hell. If you're unlucky enough to be around when gangbangers start throwing lead then sucks to be you because they make Elmer Fudd look like a sniper.
My idea of gun control is simple. Death penalty for any felony crime committed while in possession of a firearm. Mandatory sentencing, no judicial discretion, no mercy. If you hold a gun and commit a felony crime, then you hang for it. No parole, no probation, no plea deals. The fight against gun crime may turn into a war of attrition, but they'll get the point eventually.
Why is it that our police, agents, government, are all experts at catching these folks, while they are all so bad at catching real criminals?
I have guns that are not registered. They were given to me over the years. I have had these guns longer than most of you have been on this earth and now my eye sight is not what it use to be and if I did shoot someone. I would have to shuffle away…running is out of the question. What would be the benefit of restricting these guns? What would be the motivation of taking them away from me? And what would it cost me if I shot someone trying to take them away from me…after all life in prison is not very long anymore.
You would get 3 hots and a cot plus the best medical care available, all for free.
Get a 12 gauge and 000 buckshot. You don't have to be accurate as each of the 5 shells sends out nine .38 chunks of lead. That's 45 shots in 5 seconds or 540 rounds a minute.
Or you can fill the shells with washers and ball bearings down the middle and really screw some stuff up.
These guys ripped me off for 1/4 million worth of BC bud just last year. I'm glad they got caught - hope they get long sentences.
Somewhere down the line, there's going to be an elaborate combination of sting operations and infiltrators that results in a denouement that involves only various law enforcement people - no actual criminals. In fact, haven't I seen this in a comedy movie somewhere?
Seems to me I've seen this in some movie. 2 sting operations set up against each other by the hero of the movie, who was himself once set up in a sting.
Besides "The Sting"
And New York city is worried about whether you can have a super sized soda. Also, it appears the DEA had to handle this and the NYC cops were clueless -- or involved. Thank you Nanny Bloomberg.
So you're suggesting that the DEA should be doing law enforcement only in places that don't have their own police force? How would that work?