Silver Star is what I'd give him. I was an ARMY GRUNT in Vietnam!!! 1st Cav!!! GARRY OWEN!!!!

Some things you just don't photograph; this would be one of those things, bachelor parties are the other.

RT They have done more then that to our kids. We shouldn't be wasting our time on this nonsense. Yes disrespectful but we are war.

The Taliban are the biggest knuckle draggers on the planet and I'm happy to have our soldiers kill them. Desecrating their corpses is counter productive though and demeans our military.

These Marines should have been given a warning and released.

Warning? They should be given a medal!

The Taliban are not fighting for a legal state.

They are not guaranteed the same rights as Iraqi soldiers under the Geneva Conventions are given wearing a state uniform representing a sovereign state.

The Taliban are not Afghanistan soldiers.

They are religious zealots not following the Ten Commandments that say "Thou shalt not kill" which they claim to believe in. They deserve to be urinated on.

It might be a violation of military regulations, but it is exactly what they deserve.

I agree that their should be nothing left to show what they did. Don't take photos or video. You are creating the evidence against yourself. I can understand how they felt though. Fighting an enemy that doesn't wear a uniform would be extremely difficult, not knowing who is friendly. I can also understand their elation when they could tell the difference for once. But that doesn't play into the facade American politicians try to create, does it?

Soooo, Karzai condemned what they did? Excuse me, but if they were Taliban or al queda shouldn't they have been enemies of the state of Afghanistan? I am so sick of him playing both sides. GET OUT and let them kill each other and rot.

They should not worry the Taliban does worse to their own people and what do they do to some of the troops that they kidnap Behead them// This is the militarys view upper commanders,, DON'T OFFEND ANY ONE. BS

Vince-545056

I have to ask. Are we over their to actually kill our enemies, or to play politics? Who the @!$%# cares what they think of the US if we honestly believe we are ridding the world of scum.

But, if it is politics, replace our boys in uniform with congressmen and see how far they get.

WTF? So what? Are they really going to punish this guy for this? To those who say that we're supposed to be better than the Taliban I say, 'who says?' We, as a society are definitely better than the Taliban. I don't think there's much argument about that. But when you're talking about our fighting personnel in a war situation I think the individual fighting man is about he same as any other. But, if you really need a marine to be better than a Taliban fighter all you have to do is assess the qualitative difference between taking a leak on a dead body and the Taliban's practice of mutilating dead enemies by cutting off their heads, private parts, legs and arms. Compared to that, what's a little water?

And while we're at it, a marine is not a soldier, or a troop. He is a marine. Period.

It's no wonder that so many are choosing to take their own life. They return to face a bleeding heart home. It's war! I would piss on those pointing their rifles at me, my fellows in arms, my family and friends back home... and even my enemies back at home. Ask your grampa what they did back in the day.

We are better. But war is not civilized. Moments before this event, the taliban was alive and trying his best to see theses marines dead. We put these young men in hellish situations and then expect them to act like they are in Sunday school? Reduction in rank, yes. Vilifying them , no.

RTypo--if my son or daughter had defected and joined a repressive, brutal, misogynistic group like the Taliban or Al Quaeda, the Marines wouldn't have to pee on their corpses--I'd do it first. The Taliban butcher captives, brutalize their own people and target children for assassination and Al Quaeda does that and worse while publishing a manual on torture and beheading civilian captives on the internet, and our Marines are disciplined for peeing on dead bodies? Seriously??

Anonamoose1

I agree that they shouldn't have documented it. The sad thing is, is that it was probably meant for family and friends. And I tend to bet the reaction from them would have been "YES! MY BOY IS ALIVE! YOU GO! SO YOU CAN COME HOME ALIVE!" And in hindsight, all of them are probably not regretting what they did, just that it was documented.

Hey vince, PISS ON YOU

f%$k our military and our government, they tell these poor enlisted grunts who seem to have a misplaced sence of patriotism, "Go fight our war, but be f@#kin nice about it, Damn it!" Until our congressmen are required to send their able bodied children to fight, I say forget you Washington DC. If one of you dbags dies in a car crash coming home from one of your "look how good we are" parties, we take the flags to half mast and its all over the news. When a soldier comes home in a bodybag, the @!$%# who voted to send him there doesn't even think to show up to his/her funeral.... COME ON MIDDLE CLASS!!! wise up! who really gives a flying F*** if they pissed on some dead, camel f**king, towel head's corpse? OUR KIDS SHOULD NOT BE FIGHTING THIER WAR FOR THEM ANYWAYS!!!

"But they did worse that that to us...."

That is NEVER a valid reason for doing the very things you would condemn "them" for.

These marines should have also pissed on their higher ups and even more so, the politicians who send soldiers to fight in BS wars. Anyone who is offended by the behavior of these guys doesn't have the slightest clue as to what war is. There is no such thing as a clean war or a war where only bad guys die. Unless you are willing to take these guys place on the battlefield, sit down and STFU about how uncivilized it is to piss on a dead enemy body.

These kinds of pictures, along with dead bodies and just blown off arms and legs etc., are exactly what the citizens need to have shoved in their face daily. People need to understand that war is nasty and bad things happen all too often. Maybe that will be enough to get people united enough to demand that the government stop engaging in ignorant wars.

Don't blame 18, 19, and 20 year old kids for their war actions, blame yourself for not demanding that wars of aggression be stopped. Get involved instead of showing moral outrage, or you are part of the problem, not the solution.

Frankly, quacked, if the worst the Taliban and Al Quaeda ever did was pee on a few bodies, I'd applaud their humanity. And, yes, there IS a range of atrocities. And this one hardly bears mentioning.

Much as I despise the taliban and all they stand for, the actions of these Marines were ill-advised, unconscionable, and reprehensible.

That being said: These Marines should have remembered their desert survival training and not risk dehydration on a hot July day with such a stunt!

Better still: Pity the Marines weren't on a high-fiber diet at the time... if you get my drift.

what they did is nothing in comparison of what the Taliban does every day , screw world leaders leave the battlefield to the ones that have to work there, my opinion give them all a promotion and a medal, bury the Taliban with a dead pig. better yet feed them to live pigs. do that for a short time and you wont see them around bothering anyone, especially little girls. if you are going to fight a war and want to win then do it, or get out. there is no Politically correct in combat, its do or die Simper Fi. cant believe we treat our combat troops this way when they are subject to witness things ten times as horrible as a little wetting. the Islamistpiss on bodies of our troops they drag them through the streets, spit on them, hang them up and set them a blaze, dismember them, decapitate them and sometimes they enjoy doing this while they are still alive or for as long as they can drag it out. that F'n war could have been over with six weeks after it was started if we didn't have to be so damned politically correct. they don't fear death but they do fear filth there fore as a super weapon against Muslims I give you the pig yes Miss Piggy could end that war in a couple of weeks. worked in the Philippines study your history. about 1911 or so Le June look it up. simple use there fear and their superstitions against them, fight them with 7th century methods with a 21st century delivery system, soak them down with pigs blood. that they are afraid of. not enough blood pig s#it works as well, those guys had the right idea piss on them. and burry them facing west, with their privates removed. you have to take the fight out of them not insure them there goals of heaven and virgins. how the hell do you justify fighting a war if you are afraid of hurting the enemies feelings.

If anything, the person who released the video should be given a dishonorable discharge. The others who pissed on the dead talibans should all be given medals.

D Buck i couldn't have said it better. Hit the c**^%$*&^#s where it matters. Let's everybody cook up some hog feet for dinner and dedicate it just to them. To all those of you who are embarrassed by this or think you have been insulted or ( YOUR ) country disgraced by it please feel free to go over there and meet with these knuckle draggers and apologize. Go explain to them about how embarrassed and civilized you are.

Are you f***ing kidding me?!?! So I can put a 7.62 or 5.56 round through their melon, but for the love of Pete don't piss on them!!! Anybody who has been to combat can tell you, there is way worse than this. Glad to see the Marine was merely reduced and not anything else. Let's get on to bigger and better things, huh?

I agree with what everyone here is saying, Okicize Wicasa you hit the nail on the head, Roadhead you too, and that judge that stated that she wished she could be more strict in handing out the punishment, I hope they "promote" her Ambassador to Afghanistan and see how "civilized" the Taliban is going to be if she falls into their hands.

John,

to kill obviously but we used to have a little thing called respecting the dead. All soldiers are someones freedom fighter, hero, religious warrior. Stuff like this only fans the flames that cause these kinds of conflicts.

Thats what ya get when you make the dumb ass move of the year....

Considering the Taliban are the same barbarians that would happily parade a dead Marine's body through the streets or desecrate our soldier's bodies, I don't see the issue with peeing on Taliban bodies. The Marines involved should've gotten a pay raise

RTyp0

How would you guys feel if they pissed on your son or daughter's dead body?

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If my son or daughter were a terrorist ............. I would piss on them myself.

Well, at least he didn't shoot a 14 year old girl in the head for just wanting an education. It's nothing compared to what Muslims have done to our own troops in the past. Remember Somalia where they dragged the naked body of a US soldier behind a truck through the streets and hanging it over a bridge? Or how about attacking Marines who were handing out food for the red cross? I can go on and probably find a hundred things worse than this Muslims have done for each action such as this done by a US soldier. Most of the people reading this article as well as those political soldiers in Washington judging this case have never served on the front lines seeing their friends blown up and killed so have no understanding of the anger a soldier feels living under such stress every day for years.

Considering the Taliban are the same barbarians that would happily parade a dead Marine's body through the streets or desecrate our soldier's bodies, I don't see the issue with peeing on Taliban bodies

In case you forgot, we are the occupiers. We are in their yard. Imagine if the situation were reversed and they were peeing on our fighter's corpses a block from your trailer park...

@RTypo - actually, the Taliban aren't from Afghanistan either, they are from the northern Pakistan area of Kashmir. They are insurgents who were once occupiers who wish to occupy Afghanistan once again. When they were in control of Afghanistan, they did not even consider the Afghan people as humans. I remember one family I met there, they showed me their daughter who the Taliban chopped her arms and legs off when she was an infant to force the father to work on the roads. People like this, their minds are a cesspool of crap and urine anyhow.

So you know for a fact these fighters weren't local Afghans? The point is moot anyway because nothing justifies such a lack of discipline from our soldiers. I suppose you support what happened at Abu Grahib in Iraq as well?

I never said I supported the actions, just that I understand how such things can happen. The Taliban are known for doing far worse. As far as Abu Grahib, anyone who doesn't think that those soldiers were under orders to do what they did are just blind. No officers where convicted in that case, the highest ranking person was only E5. Have you ever "ever" worked at a job where you could parade 40 people around your work spaces naked and not have your bosses know about it? Those soldiers were using the photos as screen savers right there at work, so if they weren't at their desk, those photos popped up where everyone could see them. So to say none of their officers in charge knew nothing is an out-and-out lie. Those junior soldiers were scapegoats to protect people who made more money than they did. I think it is more likely they were the only ones telling the truth when they said they were following orders from their officers and the CIA.

I think death would suffice. No need for taking it to the next level and humiliate the already deceased person, as if the fact that they're not breathing any longer isn't enough. Now look who's humiliated...

Anyone who wears the uniform of this country and engages in behavior like this gets what they deserve; the official policy of the United States is that US troops do not behave in this manner, and it will not be tolerated. When people do stupid things like this, it's almost always in packs and it's usually something that's talked about in some capacity during casual conversations. This was not a spur-of-the-moment type of incident, but it was not the organized, mass idiocy we saw at Abu Ghraib, either.

Everything boils down to being able to trust the judgment of these guys, and the answer there is no. Anyone who is given command of troops is expected to refrain from such behavior and not tolerate it from troops under their command. This was basically a group decision by a bunch of guys to make a spectacle of themselves around a bunch of dead people. Makes you wonder how they'd handle themselves under less subdued conditions.

I also see plenty of people who see no problem with what went on here. To that I say this: when the tables get turned, don't bitch about it. I have zero problems whatsoever with vale tudo rules of engagement, but I also know such rules are a two-way street. And you never, ever want to walk that street thinking that the other guy is going to just roll over for you.

JP-345944

Someone needs to piss on the judge and all the people that continue to attack our military with politically correct bull crap. RTYPO - I wish people like you would just shut the fu_k up. We are fighting barbarians that butcher little kids, decapitate POW's, shoot little girls and would cut your friggin penis off and stick it in your mouth if they had half the opportunity. We should be crapping on them and hanging their rotten carcasses on mosques! Talk to vets of WW2, Korea, and Vietnam and ask them what THEY sometimes did to their enemy. You have no idea what it takes to win wars, and you live in a fantasy land about what warriors do in combat. It's not a question of "being better", it's a question of WINNING

Tell me then oh Charlie Sheen worshiper, what possible contribution to WINNING did pissing on enemy corpses provide? The only possible outcome from that act was a lot more pissed off camel jockeys. Those guys basically held up a sign saying we're no better than the guys we just pissed on. As a result even more jackasses will have picked up AK-47's and start sniping at our troops.

We are better than that.

p.s. before you even attempt it, know that I have 13 years on active duty.

A mere reduction of only one pay grade is certainly not enough. We stoop to the same low level as our enemy by committing such acts.

You can kill them but not piss on them? When enemies attack from hiding with sneak attacks, strap bombs on and kill innocent civilians they aren't deserving of respect.

The men who performed this honorable urination on wild barbaric enemy dead in Afghanistan should ALL be given awards and extra promotion points adequate to reduce their time needed for promotion by half! As a retired commissioned officer and combat veteran, if I were the judge, and had to be politically correct and please superiors desiring promotions, I would award all of these men suspended sentences, and tell them to go home and enjoy an evening with their families.

they should receive some sort of slap on the wrist for letting someone take a picture. people in combat some times do crazy things. for all of you who have never served or been in combat try being away from your family and loved ones for a year fighting an enemy that you cant identify . im sure our troops have seen worse things done to are troops by these scumbags who have no moral compass . as we used to say kill them all and let god sort them out or in this case allah. god bless our troops and keep them safe. Hillbilly usn corpsman 1970-74.

Honestly, they have been doing ** like this for years. It's a tradition if you will. Do I agree with it? No. Do I support it? No. Is it disgusting? I think so. But it's nothing knew. Again, this has been a tradition for years, decades even. What's the difference now, that they took a picture of it? And no one makes a fuss when the Taliban or other radical terrorist dirt bags burn our flag or worse. Why is it always so one sided?

Instead of "Man Pleads Guilty" it should have read "Man Takes Credit".

Chris from Yucaipa...oh Dr. Phil worshipper, maybe what they accomplished was a little morale booster?

"JeanValjean"

A mere reduction of only one pay grade is certainly not enough. We stoop to the same low level as our enemy by committing such acts.

I wouldnt call this even close to stooping to the same level. You equate peeing on a dead body to rape, beheading and filming it?

I'd sentence him to a month "hard" labor at the Mustang Ranch.

@RTyp0How would you guys feel if they pissed on your son or daughter's dead body?

Just an FYI, last time I peed on your daughter, she loved it.

RTyp0

How would you guys feel if they pissed on your son or daughter's dead body?

I thought American troops be supposed to be better than them. I thought we were supposed to be looked up to around the world. Sadly, I guess not...

#1.4 - Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:21 PM EST

You may want to clime out from under your felt lined rock and see what's going on in the real world.

Guess you haven't seen the vids of them dragging USA comrades through the streets by their necks tied to a bumber.

Guess you haven't seen the vids of them hanging USA comrades by there necks from a bridge and riddleing their bodies with bullets for days...

Guess you haven't seen the vids of USA comrades being beheaded alive.

So, does the World look up to us after we post pics showing half their heads blown off or the pics of us taking a leak on 'em? Hmmm?! Which one?!

And by looking at most of these comments here, you wonder why USA gets attacked on things like 911, and still does not understand--the only thing they can do to combat this harassment of other religions, and this in spite of millions live right here, with 10,600 registered religions just in NY State (mostly for tax write offs off course (Republican cover))--But I guess we had to do something about the brawn, since it has become unpopular to attack the black people (at least here), after all some of those are now married to your daughter or son, a few years ago they were just used among other things--sex slaves!

Yes the same happened in Vietnam, I have hired lots of GI Bill Engineers, and seen hundreds of pictures with the "live in" girls on there causing about 600,000 unwanted children--like we did in the Viking ages in Island, Norway, Sweden, France and UK, but we gave that up 1000 years ago!--So you can see it will take a long time to get rid of these controlling brawn freaks.

Do not bother I was also in the mill six years full time, I know what goes on!

Hey RT if my child was apart of a group of people that kill and behead like it was a common day occurance I say piss on him.....

Well, I guess it's not enough that we killed them.

@ Satanick-if there was no such thing as winning a war you would not enjoy the freedoms you have.

As for pissing on them, big deal, they could do worse and should! These muslim terrorists have no value of life nor do muslims period. What exactly do they respect about us. They are being trained by us and turning on our soldiers and we are just supposed to sit back and take it like a bunch of cowardly wussies. War is war and we should not be backing down to these people, why even go to war if you have to watch every little step you make while you are trying to protect your life and the life of your fellow soldiers. Is not blowing our soldiers body parts off not disrepectful, cutting off heads not disrespectful. Was not the dragging of our Ambassador Stevens through the streets and raping him disrespectful. The muslims are not there to show compassion and love for us and neither should we be. If someone is trying to kill me and I had to fight back and defend my life, I would piss on them too. Thank you soldiers for all you do for us and those who do not support the fact that you are giving your lives for us and this country are not at all American and should go live with the Taliban, let's see how long you stay!

Pissing in their dead mouths is nothing compared to cutting a persons head off while he is alive. the sissys are running the show now, watch us loose everything gained!!!!

Only thing these good soldiers did was get caught. They should have known better than to take pictures in this social media PC world we live in. Personally I dont care if they piss on the bodies of dead enemy scum bags. The enemy we are fighting cuts off peoples heads and limbs while they are alive. They rape women and children and kill them with no thoughts. And to everyone saying we are better than this.....please we are at war. It is ugly and walking in with flowers trying to spread some type of love fest isnt going to work with animals like the ones we are fighting.

Geowil

If this video coming out caused outrage enough to cause our enemies to quit playing civilian peasants and show their faces to fight and be taken out, it was worth it. I understand the international community may feel otherwise, but I believe sometimes the ends justify the means.

There is a reason this war has taken so long, and that is because we can't tell the good guys from the bad.

NotAnotherZombie

Chris from Yucaipa...oh Dr. Phil worshipper, maybe what they accomplished was a little morale booster?

If it takes watching a guy whip his dick out and pissing on a dead body to make you feel better, you've got serious issues.

Marine pissing on Taliban = Good Marine

Dead Taliban with Marine piss on him = Good Taliban

RTyp0....you have got to be one of those bible-thumping believers talking to the invisible guy in the sky to post what you have...I bet you won't feel that way when some Muslim terrorist comes for you....

Because I support our troops and am sickened by soldiers that tarnish our military's image, possibly even putting more of our servicemen and women in danger, I must be a "bible-thumping believer"? I don't see the connection.. I'm far from it actually.

And yes creek dog, I have seen footage of the brutality and desecration of corpses by our enemies in the region. That doesn't mean we're not supposed to remain professional.

Should we have made an international spectacle of Osama Bin Laden's body after we took him out? Should we have let the soldiers urinate on his dead body? Maybe even strap his corpse to the top of a Humvee and parade him around Pakistan and Afghanistan? No, because we are superior.

Vince - I am curious. What branch of the military did you serve in? And where did you see active duty?

Mister X--dollars to doughnuts he's a Monday morning QB, more than happy to preach how the rest of us should fight a war while sitting all comfy in his Lazy Boy and passing judgment on those who make his cushy life possible. Personally, I think he's full of sanctimonious crap.

"Everyday 99% of soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines do their duty, protect this nation and do so with the honor, integrity, AND MISPLACED SENSE OF PATRIOTISM of American service personnel"

-just though I would add that

Our soldiers are not given the opportunity to discriminate between the morality of causing the enemy damage or humiliation. Our soldiers are trained, without question, to seek out and destroy targets that have been deemed....frankly...the enemy.

Do not judge this individual for pissing on the pigs he was sent to destroy. Hang a medal on his chest and tell him we appreciate his survival and the statement he made.

Thanks to GWB, this is WAR!! We cannot simultaneously kill these butchering bastards, then apologize for treating them badly. Where is the sense in that?

Until somebody figures out how to un-do two wars started by that dumbass Texan, we should stand by our troops and Generals and continue to un-apologetically @!$%# those people up. That's what the soldiers are trained to do and anyone who diplomatically scolds them for doing it should be scrutinized for their cushy jobs themselves.

This ain't a Country Club, you fatcats...this is REAL men and women in danger who could easily be brought back home NOW!

"Our soldiers are trained, without question, to seek out and destroy targets that have been deemed....frankly...the enemy."

That is "without question" completely false. The military trains its members to follow lawful orders, not to kill without restraint or restriction. To suggest otherwise is to unjustly insult the servicemen who are doing the job that they're actually being paid to do.

Vince,

Stuff your idealistic rhetoric and leave combat to the big boys and girls. Go help Mama in the kitchen...

I have a question: the soldier who plead guilty said himself that what he had done was wrong. Now is he a liberal bleeding heart pansy, or is he a coward who refuses to stand up for the principle that the bodies of the enemy ought to be desecrated?

@lido672 you had my attention till you started blaming the dumb ass Bush do you remember the dumb ass Clintons and all the dumb ass Democrats that were right their with him do you remember 911, stay out of politics you do not belong but do keep supporting our troops even if they do attract negative attention, best wishes to ya, you will figure it out in time after you realize just who the backstabber's are. it requires a open mind. first you have to dump the collective thinking and look at all the facts, yes all the facts. really! one of the two sides changed their minds/story after the fact, that is the side that you can not trust, need a hint??? theydrink the koolaid, they follow the flock, they act like lemming's, they behave like sheep, I rember almost every Democrat voted to go to war on both issues/both wars so cut the crap there both equally guilty, end of discussion. you cant blame one party when they both did it. that is unless you are a lying Democrat.

no they shouldnt have pissed on the dead. they should have cut their damn heads off and put them on a stick high up in the air.if i were the president id let it be known that if one american even chokes on a chicken bone we are going to blow your country off the map!!!

Mister X-2515301

Vince - I am curious. What branch of the military did you serve in? And where did you see active duty?

Agdoc69

Mister X--dollars to doughnuts he's a Monday morning QB, more than happy to preach how the rest of us should fight a war while sitting all comfy in his Lazy Boy and passing judgment on those who make his cushy life possible. Personally, I think he's full of sanctimonious crap.

JS69

Vince,

Stuff your idealistic rhetoric and leave combat to the big boys and girls. Go help Mama in the kitchen...

I agree 100% with Vince and I've got 13 years in. So what now chumps? Simply because someone has a different view than you do, you immediately jump to the "he never served" rhetoric? Bull@!$%#. He's right and I don't know a single one of my buddies who would have pulled the same stunt.

Vince - I am curious. What branch of the military did you serve in? And where did you see active duty?

Mister X: I'd guess the girl scouts.

You have 13 years...awesome, you still sound like a bleeding heart little worm. Doesn't mean you've seen any combat either.

LevTolstoy2

"Our soldiers are trained, without question, to seek out and destroy targets that have been deemed....frankly...the enemy."

That is "without question" completely false. The military trains its members to follow lawful orders, not to kill without restraint or restriction. To suggest otherwise is to unjustly insult the servicemen who are doing the job that they're actually being paid to do.

#2.6 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:02 AM EST

Um, Lev,

Where do you get your information? Yes, the military does train members to follow lawful orders like, seek out and destroy our enemies.

This is the reason for our training. You say "not to kill without restraint or restriction."

It's a team effort, the scouts find the enemy, then we figure out the safest way to destroy them with no casualties on our behalf if possible. There "are" restrictions.

We have to weigh out the possiblities of civilian casualties. There is a lot of channels to go through to even pull the first trigger.

You'll have Marines being fired upon call into the Commander and actually ask permission to fire back.

@ Chris from Yucaipa - I accused nobody of anything. I just asked 2 simple questions. Personally, I cannot judge these soldiers actions, as I have never been in combat. I never enlisted in the military, though my dad and brother did. My dad was shot down in Vietnam, and was able to make it home. He took the life of a VC in hand-to-hand combat, and took a photo to document the kill. He couldn't sleep at night after he got home unless that same photo was on his nightstand. War does things to people that only people who have seen war can understand. Until I am in that situation, I don't think I can judge those that have been there. That being said, I can honestly say I don't feel any remorse for the dead enemy - after all, isn't that what war is about?

Morning Creek, well said.

I know for a fact all the training they gave us was geared toward ending the vital signs of those who we faced.

Should these guys have pissed on the dead bodies of our enemies? Probably not. Should they have photographed it? Absolutely not. Should this have been handled at a company or battalion level instead of in a court? Absophuckinlutely.

I personally can not stomach the convictions of soldiers that have served honorably for multiple tours in most cases while they let that little SOB Nidal Malik Hasan, play the system for all its worth. Call him a terrorist, shoot him and let them piss on him, without the cameras!

Ahahahaha....Chris, you nutty dog. Your agreeing with Vince makes our statements no less valid. I agree that the guys I served with and myself probably wouldn't have done the same. But that's some pretty strong sentiment he put if you have never been in that situation.

They must have learned this from the GI Joe episode where Duke explains its OK to piss on the dead if your on the good guy team. That's right kids, show enemies like Cobra Command who the good guys are by pissing on them! Gooooo Joe!

Many people commenting have never been part of a team. A team that lives, sleep, play and fight together. A team that has your back and you have theirs. You can trust a team more than you can trust a civilian. You do a job so the civilians can keep their hands clean, their minds elsewhere and maintain their uneventful lives free from threat of others. Civilians tell they to Mame, kill, destroy, disrupt and cause total confusion as if soldiers were only playing a computer game. Soldiers do these things with their heart, mind, feelings, and soul with less regard to their own lives as long as the team completes the mission. Civilians don't realise that death is final. But the smell, taste and memories linger. I say again THANK YOU MARINES FOR SERVING OUR COUNTRY.

Deweydan,

True the Taliban and the terrorists do terrible and horrible things to our dead or even the POWs. However this man was an NCO, a leader in charge of junior marines, he knew better and broke the rules for being a non-commissioned officer. As for all the crap talk about being in a combat zone.. who gives a @!$%# hell, I was too but did not think it gave me motive to act like an ass. I was a non-commissioned officer so i acted liked it.

I was in Vietnam...I woulh have pooped on these aholes...war is war...and what these pricks have done to childre , women and American Civilians...I think this celebration was needed...show those bastards...we are not the pussy liberals the media has made us out to be...

So being distinguished professionals and maintaining integrity is being a "pussy liberal" ? Wow, where do they find you people...

For every dead corpse that our soldiers urinate on we create more enemies. We hold our soldiers to a higher standard. If we want to be the light on the hill we need to act like it. Actions such as these disgrace the entire nation and bring us down in the world's eyes. An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.

Satanick - you are so full of crap I can smell it half way across the nation. War is violence, blood, and killing NOT friggin nation building or worrying about the rotten bodies of our enemies we leave behind. Only dimwits and politically correct yes-men and politicians hold our soldiers to this bull crap standard - the soldiers know better. Fu_k the world - we've already had to save their assess twice in the last 75 years!

Only a chicken hawk would support war over peace when war is not necessary.

Satanick, speak for yourself. I am not disgraced. Neither is the nation. If anything, this event was a language that these turds understand. And this war, however badly prolonged it was by Bush's obsession with Iraq, Was necessary. Only a plain chicken couldn't see that.

Poor bush gets all the blame, in reality it was cheney that pushed through the train of deceit that led to the invasion of Iraq. We'll not know the full story, but bush was no match for cheney's deviousness, his groping in the muck for more power and control. It's a sad and dishonorable saga in our history that the very few have laid at our feet. Kudos to our military that did not allow their emotions to overtake the values of our U.S. Words are not enough to honor our military who have stood by the Honor Code of our country.

Well, I say keep pissing on them, just don't take pictures so they don't have anything to come at you for. It is pathetic that these men and women are putting their lives on the line for us, dying for us, coming home with parts of their bodies missing and then the country that they are fighting for wants to criminalize them for pissing on the enemy. They should piss on the judge too!

The war in Iraq was not for nothing. What kind of message are we sending to the world that the muslims can come here and blow up buildings, attack our country, kill thousands of innocent civillians and we should not have gone to war. Bush was very correct on his decision, because all those weapons are in Syria which is where they brought them when it was advertised all over TV that we were coming. I remember them showing it on the news tha caravans that were hauling big truckloads out of Iraq and it went to Syria. You people who believe any different are fools. It's funny how muslims can make a lot Americans think like fools. Now we have a president who will do nothing to defend our country. Here again our Embassy was attacked in Benghazi on 9/11 and Americans were killed and our president has done nothing, in fact, he is responsible for it along with Clinton, but this will just get brushed under the rug just like all the other unconstitutional things Obama has done in this country. This just sends a message to the whole world that hey ya'll are free to attack Americans and America any time you want to and don't worry we won't do anything to you, it's okay, in fact we are in the process of taking the right away of our citizens to possess firearms, so that should make it even easier for you. Americans should be sticking together and fighting for what this country was founded on and it you don't you are not American and you don't belong here.

Satanick,

I'll buy you a one way ticket to afghanistan, Then you can bring the taliban some flower's and try to talk peace with them. Trust me, you won't need a round trip ticket.

don't forget the misplaced sense of patriotism of our soldiers who joined after 9/11, or anytime after vietnam for that matter. its time we tell our kids, "we have no right fighting the rich man's war! for if this was truly about defending our freedoms, wouldn't we be fighting in saudi arabia? sense that's where most of the camel f**king towel heads came from?

it's our government that is the problem, ass****'s can't balance a budget, but they can keep us at war!

the saddest thing is he couldnt muster a healthy sh.t.

Exactly. For every dead soldier we piss on, for every civilizan we kill with drone strikes, for every day we spend occupying their country we create more enemies. It's time we got the hell out of there. We have made enough enemies already.

Hey Satanick:

It's time for you to get your head out of the camel's anus. Our "occupation" as you put it is a piss poor excuse for their violence. I'll assume by your post that you believe the killings around the world by this self proclaimed religion of peace are all because of the US presence in the ME? Really? I also will assume that you believe our pull out of the hell hole of civilization will end the violence. So why the murders in Indonesia, the Philippines, Mali, Somalia, Tanzania, Yemen, Kenya....and on and on?

I heard it explained once that a lot of them are jealous because they believe all civilization arose from their geographic region, yet they are just a bunch of goat herders, rug makers, and fruit stand vendors today. They have allowed themselves to fall behind on the civilization end, as much of the rest of the world builds their shining towers and are the smart and glamorous ones who seem to have everything they need and want.

That is why the Twin Towers were such a coveted target by them. What they actually did in their ignorance, is inflame our masses with their blatantly indiscriminately violent act of sabotage.

Today, Muslims have no interest in doing anything productive, and have descended into vile beasts lower than any life form on Earth, and I now believe the best answer to to exterminate every last one of them for the betterment of mankind.

I also will assume that you believe our pull out of the hell hole of civilization will end the violence.
It will end the violence against American soldiers, yeah.

Today, Muslims have no interest in doing anything productive, and have descended into vile beasts lower than any life form on Earth, and I now believe the best answer to to exterminate every last one of them for the betterment of mankind.

Ok Hitler.

X,

Would you still say that if America was the one being occupied by a foreign power and we were the ones killing our oppressors and people from the other nation where saying what you just did? Try the shoe on the other foot and get back to me.

Geowil

X,

Would you still say that if America was the one being occupied by a foreign power and we were the ones killing our oppressors and people from the other nation where saying what you just did? Try the shoe on the other foot and get back to me.

OK, I'm back. Let's look at the history of our "occupation". After WWII once the Axis and their allies the Arabs were defeated our, the US's, involvement in the Middle East grew due to the development of the oil fields. (Although this did start around 1932). We were not there as a military force. We were invited there to develop their natural resources. You know, the same ones which have brought trillions of dollars to the economies of those nations possessing the oil. Unfortunately for the citizens of those countries, the ruling powers decided to maintain their positions, at the expense of those not in power. The hatred that grew out of the despotic and tyrannical ruling of the people was turned outward instead of towards the real culprits. (By the way, this still continues today, but the 'regular folks' over there are starting to smell the coffee). Now add to that the hatred of Israel, which has for almost 70 years been driven by the rulers of the Arab nations in order to keep their masses at bay. Are we innocent in this picture? Absolutely not. Our support of dictatorships in defense of oil is a major thorn in the paw. But if the rulers of the oil producing nations had used their funds to educate the masses and foster peace among the religions, yeah that'll happen, instead of building massive "temples of power" in homage to their greatness, things might be a little different.

There is no higher bar. There is only high-enough bar in war. And that bar is staying alive and killing the other guy. Nothing else matters.

Chill out! You're making it worse with your trumped up anger.

This event should never have been photographed or discussed.

One of the weakest arguments I have ever read.

It wasn't a "mistake", but a selfish gesture on the soldier's part. Don't try to defend his actions, there's not enough lipstick for that pig.

Hey, MoneyChanger, are you as a Marine saying you want to get your Commander-in-Chief killed? Good thing you're probably just an internet Marine.

@!$%# you Astro. That @!$%# Obama is a god damned traitor.

As a former "grunt in an asymetrical (sic) war", I don't think it's in the best judgement to relieve yourself on the dead enemy and then capture it on video. I certainly understand that people get caught up in the moment, the rage, the adrenaline, the revenge, etc., which may lead men to do things they might not otherwise do, that they might not be proud of. I don't understand putting it on video. Why? Gonna show that to your daughter some day?

When I was in the Army, there was a general consensus that we were better than the animals we were fighting against; those who would commit atrocities against us or our allies were beneath us. Apparently, several people on this board are also there.

Hey, Rocky. Way to prove my point. If you're a Marine, I'm the king of Siam.

dms2222 - As a former combat soldier with 32 years active-duty, the Marines are lucky you're not with them anymore, and probably never were to begin with. If you were, you had to be a clerk, cook, and never fired a shot in anger or seen a buddy die. REAL marines do far worse when politically corrent morons with cameras aren't in sight, and I hope they KEEP ON DOING IT. NO war was ever won by being nicer than your enemy. Where do people like you come from??????

It's a war zone. The only rule is that you kill the other guy before he kills you. THAT'S IT! No other rules matter!

I hope you never end up in one.

Amen Brother...Amen.

gen patton also slapped traumatized soldiers and blame them for dereliction of duty. he was not a favorite of the troops, but of the media. ol' blood and gut was referred to by his soldiers with a slogan, its our blood and his gut. defending such acts is horrific. as a war vet, i was and am ashamed of such acts.

Agreed. This guy is a disgrace to the US Military!

what no scalps?