Tens of thousands of dead fish wash ashore on South Carolina beach

Experts believe a lack of oxygen caused thousands of dead menhaden to wash up on a South Carolina shore. WMBF's Ken Baker reports.

Thousands of dead fish washed up on a mile and a half stretch of beach in South Carolina Tuesday, officials said, at least the second such occurrence in the region in a week.

Roughly 30,000 to 40,000 menhaden fish, 6 to 8 inches long, were spread along the shore from DeBordieu Beach in Georgetown County, S.C., to Pawleys Island, a town on the state's Atlantic Coast, and thousands more were expected, Pawleys Island Police Chief Michael Fanning said.

Similar incidents have happened in the area before, including late last week when hundreds of thousands of the small, oily fish were washed ashore near Masonboro Island, N.C., and last year when an influx of dead starfish were found on the same beaches.

The fish were first spotted by beachgoers taking advantage of the unseasonably warm weather.


"We came down to the beach for the day just to have, you know, a nice day on the beach, smell the fish smell, came down to look for shells and all these fish -- dead," Pawleys Island resident Pat Hawkins told NBC station WMBF in Myrtle Beach, S.C. "It's a shame. I don't know what's causing it."

Officials from the Department of Health and Environmental Control and the Department of Natural Resources visited the area Tuesday and took water samples in an effort to determine what killed the fish.

Marine experts determined the fish died from hypoxia, which occurs when the amount of oxygen in the water drops.

Pawleys Island Police

Thousands of dead fish washed up on a Pawleys Island, S.C., beach Tuesday afternoon.

Mel Bell, director of the Office of Fisheries Management for the South Carolina Department of Natural Resources, said the occurrence was an entirely natural event.

“On Friday we had a new moon (which caused) real high high tides and real low low tides,” Bell told The Sun News. “Probably what happened was a school (of menhaden) got in an area of water on a high tide, in a hole or depression, and at low tide they were trapped and depleted the oxygen in the water. Then, all the fish would suffocate. Then, when the tide came back in, it washed the dead fish out and they washed up on the beach.”

"When it's one species like that, that's usually indicative of a low dissolved oxygen situation because they tend to be more fragile," added Dan Hitchcock, an assistant professor at the Baruch Institute of Coastal Ecology and Forest Science at Clemson University in Georgetown, S.C.

Fanning said the city has no plans to clean up the fish and will let the seagulls and the tide clear the sand. 

“We’re just dealing with it as a force of nature," Fanning said. "There are some residual fish, most of it has gotten washed away, there were a ton of birds down there. If you went down there (Thursday), you’d get more birds than fish.”  

Menhaden fish, typically used by fishermen as bait, are a small, silver fish, whose oil is used in vitamin supplements, lipstick and livestock feed. 

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I'm sure this has something to do with man made climate change.... I just know it does! LOL

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#1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:08 PM EST

yuuup Al Gore said so.

  • 15 votes
#1.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:40 PM EST

Al Gore is right, and your a fool. yuuuuuuuuupppp

  • 24 votes
#1.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:43 PM EST

chemtrell!!!!!! poisoning our air. look at all the jets flying high above in the morning

  • 8 votes
#1.3 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:45 PM EST

Send money to Al Gore and this will never happen again. People sent him money and the world didnt end as he predicted if he received no money.

  • 11 votes
#1.4 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:50 PM EST

looks like it's time for some fish head soup...

  • 4 votes
#1.5 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:54 PM EST

those darn GOP, Bush admin, greedy republicans and global warming!!!! Grrrrrrrrrrr ....

HAHAHAHA yes I am being super sarcastic!!!

  • 20 votes
#1.6 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:54 PM EST

Repent!!!!! You godless heathens...before you drag us all down with you!

  • 1 vote
#1.7 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:58 PM EST

Well, if rapid gloabl climate change isn't caused by humanity then the American Taliban ain't praying hard enough.

Tell your angry god to back TF off and focus his wraith on violent video games and movies.

  • 3 votes
#1.8 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:07 PM EST

Sea's warmed so much it cooked 'em!

  • 5 votes
#1.9 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:13 PM EST

Well let me see, I’ll try to explain what is happening to the oxygen in the water. “Lose C", carbon (from excessive air pollution) in the air is combining with O2, oxygen in the water, creating CO2. Therefore, more air pollution = more CO2 in the air = less oxygen in the water = dead fish on our beaches. Simple, isn’t it?

Accordingly, I conclude that we are to blame for the death of the fish via the increase in the air “polluting” carbon and resulting increase in CO2. This is also responsible for the Climate Warming, increases in sea levels and bigger than ever hurricanes. Mr. Gore is talking about this extensively all the time, should listen to him sometimes. LOL!!!!

  • 15 votes
#1.10 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:18 PM EST

For all we know, there was a sudden methane leak in the same area. These people are just taking guesses on the oxygen thing.

  • 8 votes
#1.11 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:19 PM EST

The fact that these fish got stuck high and dry do too an extremely high tide (caused by the moon)the global warming alarmist people will still thank it's man made.

  • 10 votes
#1.12 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:27 PM EST

Nothing to see here folks...no man made causes. This is just another environmentalist/liberal conspiracy.

  • 14 votes
#1.13 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:50 PM EST

Hey, you forgot to say communistic, pinko, fag, left-wing, commie and conspiritorial. Go to your room, please.

  • 9 votes
#1.14 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:07 PM EST

Shouldn't we at least ban something?

  • 18 votes
#1.15 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:18 PM EST

I would listen to Al Gore if he didnt create a carbon footprint equivilant to 15-20 average american housholds. Just saying you should practice what you preach.

  • 9 votes
#1.16 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:20 PM EST

inot eating nothing out of either ocean. japan got west coast. bp got east. did article say oil on fish. v

    #1.17 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:22 PM EST

    we should just ban going to the beach....employ the ostrich method if the public dont see it, it is not really happening! ha ha ha

    • 3 votes
    #1.18 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:30 PM EST

    This not just an islolated incident. It has happened lately around the world.

    It is a sign of the end of times. REPENT

    • 3 votes
    #1.19 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:55 PM EST

    Well, at least it's not hypodermic needles, or tar oil, or red tide, or raw sewage, or.....!

    • 3 votes
    #1.20 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:07 PM EST

    Where is Exxon? The fish died, most likely from pollution. Then the fish were eaten by birds, so they will get a sickness and die. Next the guys with the guns, the NRA will hunt and eat those sick birds, maybe that will thin out the NRA. Kill two birds with one stone! Huh? Did I make a joke? Oh you know it's funny. Aren't you tired of all these pompous posters? The NRA? The elitists? Where's my contract for a sit-com?

    • 1 vote
    #1.21 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:23 PM EST

    I think its pretty @!$%#ing pathetic and stupid that you all think this stuff is a joke. And the fact that they said this has happed several times in a few weeks and it has been not just fish but star fish tells me right away this isnt an issue of oxygen. One of these days it wont be fish but people who start dieing by the million. Will you morons still find it funny? The climate will change naturally anyway, but that doesnt mean @!$%#s like you need to be helping it by being dirty city living dump your chemical @!$%# and throw your @!$%#ing trash wherever you feel like pieces of @!$%#. The least you can all do is get yourselves sterilized so you dont put anymore moron out there. You whats a joke is the fact that all you idiots think these things about 9/11 or these fish dieing or sandy hook and the every single day shootings since the aurora theater are all just conspiracy theory nut case @!$%#. One car devours over 80 lbs of air in an hour. Can any of you morons even contemplate how much air that is? Air is practically weightless, 80 lbs worth is more than your entire house can hold. And there are how many billion of them? Then add in what people and animals consume, and how many trees there ARENT to change that carbon back to oxygen because we cut tham all down to build big filth ridden @!$%# holes like new york and la. Yeah I think this stuff is real @!$%#ing funny.

    • 12 votes
    #1.22 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:53 PM EST

    umm, I will go with what the expert ecologist said. I do know that larg oil spills cause "dead zones" where microbes feeding on the oil multiply like mad and eat up all the oxygen in that spill zone but like the ecologist explained it was just one species and if a man made cause was the culprit we'd most likely see many different species washed up on shore.

    RE to: wtw of KC, please tell me you're joking right? C can't just bind to O2 magically, it takes a reaction, namely combustion..plus most of the free floating "Carbon" in the air is already in CO2 form and wouldn't react with dissolved O2 in water. It would however increase the acidity of the ocean waters ;)

    Brandon, toxicology and tests done on the fish and starfish indicated that the cause of death was lack of oxygen, can't argue with that...I do know that we rape the planet for our benefit and we pay less attention to the oceans than anything else but this is the internet, joking will occur ;)

    • 5 votes
    #1.23 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:54 PM EST

    Amen Brandon Schmitz.

    • 2 votes
    #1.24 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:57 PM EST

    I agree, these pea brained so-called conservative drones know nothing about science and they'll be laughing out the other end when a Hurricane Andrew or tropical storm sandy hits their neighborhood. Actually Al Gore was only touching the tip of the iceburg..........it is much bigger now then it was then. Global Warming is one of the biggest issues this world has ever faced.

    • 5 votes
    #1.25 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:04 PM EST

    :-(

    Breathe Brandon!...B-R-E-A-T-H-E !!!

    Watch the grammar and spell check your post next time so people will take you seriously...I'm supposed to say that, right?

    • 5 votes
    #1.26 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:05 PM EST

    Read the bible the answers there?????????????????

    • 4 votes
    #1.27 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:17 PM EST

    Brandon Schmitz mommy came home. He won't be on the computer any more tonight.

    • 3 votes
    #1.28 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:20 PM EST

    wootjuice....

    Thank you, I started to worry that my theory about what killed the fish took hold.

      #1.29 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:43 PM EST

      no answers in the bible im afraid...moral and ethical lessons I suppose could be drawn for any religious text but you will never get scientific answers or explainations from them...sorry not bashing but reading the bible will only at best make you a better person not explain things like global warming or how the dinosaurs went extinct :P

      wtw of KC, haha that's awesome

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      #1.30 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:46 PM EST

      Actually, wootjuice, the Bible DOES tell us most of those things that you say it does not. For example, dinosaurs died as a result of the flood (Noah's ark). And that's why there are sea shells and fish fossils on mountain tops. The book of Revelation tells us how the planet will change toward the end times. But you are right about the moral stories because it also tells us how mankind will become more selfish and self-centered as the end times get closer. And one of the results of selfish mankind is NOT taking care of the environment.

      • 5 votes
      #1.31 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:30 PM EST

      Didn't you notice the cloud patterns at sunset - it was HAARP! lol (i hope)

        #1.32 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:12 PM EST

        Samantha....

        Dinosaur’s extinction occurred around 65 million years ago, Noah began the Ark construction in 2427 BC and the flood you referred to occurred between 241000-100000 years ago!!!

        Now, I am really confused so please help me to clear up my confusion.

        • 3 votes
        #1.33 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:26 PM EST

        I farted in the water.

        Sorry.

        • 1 vote
        #1.34 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:26 PM EST

        The high concentration of toxic chemicals in the fish had nothing to do with it - it was natural. Yup - so says the guy who used to work for the off-shore oil drilling company.

          #1.35 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:03 PM EST

          I think it would be best to actually discover what actually caused this than listen to a government official who says, "Probably what happened." I mean, if I remember correctly, it was also the government who didn't tell people living in North Carolina that they had been drinking water contaminated with TCE for more than 10 years while their family members contracted various cancers. It's time we stopped trusting our government and soon it may become time to start shooting them if they become the enemy! They've priced most Americans out of holding government office so that only the wealthy can rule.

          • 1 vote
          #1.36 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:53 PM EST

          Could it be that the fish were downstream from the largest concentration of pig excrement in the world?

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          #1.37 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:54 PM EST

          Samantha-1783461, like I said, the bible and other religious texts were never intended to explain the world around us. They serve more as a moral and ethical compass for us to live our lives by. If you gathered that the story of Noah's ark was to describe how dinosaurs went extinct and the ice age occured then you completely missed the point of the story which is one of perseverence through faith in God. Science will explain the world around you not the bible. The sooner you realize that the better person you will become, trust me.

          Proverbs 11:2

          When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with the humble is wisdom.

          Right here, the bible is teaching you to be humble and accept that at times there will be things you don't know and at that time and place it is your duty to be humble, ask questions and turn to those who do know and rid yourself of your pride to accept the answers you are given.

          These fish died by natural causes due to the high and low tides...I'm done lol :)

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          #1.38 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:45 PM EST

          Hello Kubla, I agree that we should figure out exactly what is causing this. It's happening all over the world. And Brandon I agree that this isn't one bit funny, the people who think it is are the ones who walk way out into what was ocean when they see the beach receding wondering where it went.

            #1.39 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:58 PM EST

            Wow! Some people just need to lighten up a bit. Life is too short to be so serious and angry.

              #1.40 - Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:01 AM EST

              I'm sure this has something to do with man made climate change.... I just know it does! LOL

              My morning breath today was due to global warming, if you ask a leftists.

                #1.41 - Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:30 PM EST
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                This type of baitfish travel in large schools, when attacked they get pushed up to shallow water where there's less oxygen. In the NE we call them bunker.

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                Reply#2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:11 PM EST

                Hello folks, we are only eighteen days into 2013 and we have already seen a rash of bird and fish deaths. While some may be due to explainable causes many go unexplained. It wouldn’t hurt for us to determine what is causing these mass die offs. The sooner we understand that we have symbiotic relationship with mother earth the better chances we have for survival. We can't kill our planet, she will shake us off like fleas if we continue to pollute our water, land and air.

                List of Mass Animal Deaths Event Summary for 2013 - 27 Known Mass Death Events in 13 Countries

                17th January 2013 - Thousands of dead Fish found near the Jatiluhur dam in West Java, Indonesia. Link

                16th January 2013 - 2,000 Fish found dead in Grand Island Lake, Nebraska, America. Link

                15th January 2013 - 30+ Birds found dead in Duson, Louisiana, America. Link

                15th January 2013 - Thousands of dead Fish washed up on Pawleys Island, in South Carolina, America. Link

                11th January 2013 - Thousands of dead Birds are washing up on Michigan's shoreline in America. Link

                11th January 2013 - Hundreds of thousands of dead Fish washed up on Masonboro Island in America. Link

                10th January 2013 - Tonnes of Fish have died off Hanura Beach in Indonesia. Link

                9th January 2013 - 770 Geese, plus large numbers of Ducks and Fish killed China. http://ah.anhuinews.com/system/2013/01/09/005398894.shtml%26hl%3Den%26tbo%3Dd%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D653&sa=X&ei=lh3vUN2XH-qZ0QWw-oCQCg&ved=0CDIQ7gEwAA" target="_blank">Link

                9th January 2013 - 25,500+ Ducks and Chickens dead in South Sulawesi, Indonesia. Link

                9th January 2013 - 284,000+ Birds killed due to Avian Influenza in Mexico. http://noticias.lainformacion.com/economia-negocios-y-finanzas/ganaderia/el-gobierno-mexicano-ataja-un-nuevo-brote-de-gripe-aviar_mkDxtNWoiwIFvjl8kJ5AA6/%26hl%3Den%26tbo%3Dd%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D653&sa=X&ei=b83tUO3hOImV0QWDuoGwDw&ved=0CDMQ7gEwAA" target="_blank">Link

                7th January 2013 - 50 baby sharks found dead along Nukulau beachfront in Fiji. Link

                4th January 2013 - Several thousand dead Fish found along the shores of Altus-Lugert Lake, Oklahoma, America. Link

                4th January 2013 - Massive Fish kill along 10km of Coromandel beaches in New Zealand. Link

                4th January 2013 - Hundreds of Ducks die suddenly in Bali, Indonesia. Link

                4th January 2013 - 30 Turtles wash ashore dead in Chennai, India. Link

                4th January 2013 - Mass Fish kill in the Boca Grande Causeway, Florida, America. Link

                4th January 2013 - Thousands of dead Sardines washing ashore on Sanibel Island, Florida, America. Link

                3rd January 2013 - Mass Fish kills happening 2 or 3 times every year on Phra Prong River in Thailand. Link

                2nd January 2013 - Thousands of Fish "Freeze to death" in Yunlin County, China. Link

                2nd January 2013 - Fish kill on the Condamine River in Australia. Link

                1st January 2013 - 150,000 lbs of Fish found dead in Bazhou District, China. Link

                Throughout history we have not seen animals dying in these kinds of numbers all around the world. Oil drilling permits in our oceans and land are common place, were even drilling in Anwar. But the earth and the seas are so polluted now from man made chemicals and oil spills, the animals just don't stand a chance! Is it to late to reverse this trend?

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                #2.1 - Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:51 PM EST
                Comment author avatarJohn Bryantvia Facebook

                Take a poll about which is more important, money or the environment and money wins, every time. This attitude needs to change. There are ways to make money without trashing the planet, Too many of them take money out of the big energy fuel corporations.

                • 1 vote
                #2.2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:35 PM EST
                Reply

                Send them to japan. They'll eat anything with fins. Should be worth something if they'll pay 1.7 million for a tuna.

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                #3 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:12 PM EST

                The high price tuna is a marketing ploy between a Japanese Ginza district resturant and a Hong Kong resturant. It gets their name in the news and sends people to their resturants.

                • 2 votes
                #3.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:27 PM EST

                There should not be "less oxygen". the "less oxygen" part is man made. Sorry , I have to throw the BS flag. five yard penalty, polluters, forth down. the clock is running out.

                • 8 votes
                #3.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:41 PM EST

                @ Codger64: You're right it's all part of their marketing strategy and if I may add, to give them reasons to sell the tuna for more per oz.

                  #3.3 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:43 PM EST

                  Wow, don't you sound like the racist type...... and I thought we had enough jerks on this world already.

                  • 1 vote
                  #3.4 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:44 PM EST

                  george,

                  It'sscientific fact that hot water hold less oxygen. Shallow water heats up faster than deep water. Therefore, shallow water, which is warmer, holds less oxygen. Amazing isn't it?

                  • 3 votes
                  #3.5 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:15 PM EST

                  @dharmabeachbum chill out i skim through a-lot of articles to get the important detail. Don't get all bent out of shape for his comment. (:

                    #3.6 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:18 PM EST

                    .

                      #3.7 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:21 PM EST

                      i tend to be a smart ass aswell. :)

                        #3.8 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:22 PM EST

                        lol, i tend to push that suspend envelope. But only at people like that.

                          #3.9 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:37 PM EST

                          A gift from Jersey for not supporting the Sandy Relief Bill you grits. You will sleep with the fishes.

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                          #3.10 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:28 PM EST

                          Clearly a right wing, Rush Limbaugh driven, bible thumping, gun toting conspiracy in retribution for the new gun dictates...The fish, being solid Repubicans decided to be the Kamikaze's of the Republican Party. They volunteered to watch episode after episode of Obama, claiming that the rich must pay their fair share.....over, and over, and over again until the fish were driven to madness, and determined suicide was a better alternative than to living under Obama. They then breathed as hard as they could to deplete the oxygen in the shallow pools to suffocate themselves, thereby letting liberals claim it is due to global warming, and making Al "Jezerra" Gore and themselves look even more ridiculous then they already do.

                          At least someone in the Republican Party has some strength(I wanted to use a different word) since our Republican politicians can't fight their way out of a paper bag anymore.

                          • 1 vote
                          #3.11 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:36 PM EST

                          Could be the SOVIET Nuclear SUBS.floating around the US Coastline ...REALLY

                            #3.12 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:55 PM EST

                            It probaly was humans, but no officail is gonna say that because it may start a panic.

                            • 2 votes
                            #3.13 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:06 PM EST

                            its coorporate waste, acid rain or some coorporate neglectful dumping anything big business, coke bros. fossil fuel burning you name it,,,,,why dont they go into the water themselves and dive down and remove the nuclear waste that they dumped there years ago, its unaccountable, unresponsible coorporate policy..destroy the planet as long as they make a profit...screw the planet were coorporate america and we dont answer to anyone, just keep buying our products especially the absolutly useless ones //////////

                            • 1 vote
                            #3.14 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:08 PM EST

                            LOL...

                            We once had a cottage on lake erie, maybe once a year we would have fish kills wash ashore. No big deal, but we had a dog who just loved rolling around in them. Needless to say, she got an early bath every time.

                              #3.15 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:23 PM EST

                              It may very well be that these fish died from Hypoxia, but it certainly goes to show that the balance of nature can sometimes be a delicate thing.. We humans would do well to learn that our heavy-handed and abusive treatment of this planet may someday come back to bite us on our collective butts....hard!

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                              #3.16 - Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:12 AM EST
                              Comment author avatarJohn Bryantvia Facebook

                              Living most of my life in Florida, I've seen lots of fish kills, some caused by weather. Several years ago we had a large kill, caused by a severe cold front. Areas not near deep water lost several species, a kill we still feel. Others due to pollution due in large part to overuse and overpopulation. Just because some can be explained away as natural, you can't assume they all can.

                                #3.17 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:50 PM EST
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                                And what's depleting the oxygen in the ocean? Scary times we are in.

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                                #4 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:39 PM EST

                                According to the article it was the fish breathing that depleted the oxygen most likely... not that I disagree with you, just saying this might not be as huge a deal as it looks.

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                                #4.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:46 PM EST

                                I admit I skimmed through the article, so I guess that could be it. Maybe its because its now reported more, but I don't remember stuff like this all my years.

                                • 1 vote
                                #4.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:47 PM EST

                                Did you read the article? Hypoxia is a naturally occurring event that happens more often than what people know. A few years ago in Myrtle Beach we had thousands of sand dollars wash up from the same phenomenon.

                                Scary times? No. Just paranoid people. The fish kill -- as indicated by just one fish species washing ashore -- had nothing to do with man.

                                • 14 votes
                                #4.3 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:49 PM EST

                                TFNJ, I just saw that you "skimmed" the article. But you felt it necessary to speculate about the cause. This is the way rumors get started. This is why, as you put it, we experience "scary times." People speculate instead of reading.

                                • 6 votes
                                #4.4 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:54 PM EST

                                Easy dharmabeach. If there was a meter of how much of a smartass people can be, I'd be at the top. So if you want to get bitchy over a comment, then I can have plenty of fun with you.

                                First of all you are believing what they said they "believe", not proven. So the cause could really be any number of things. Including pollution and bacteria.

                                • 4 votes
                                #4.5 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:56 PM EST

                                All the crap floating down the coast from Washington DC.

                                • 7 votes
                                #4.6 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:42 PM EST

                                then other fish would be dead tfnj... its one kind of fish that swims in a school...it makes sense that this is a natural occuring event.

                                • 3 votes
                                #4.7 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:44 PM EST

                                Snookie went for a swim.

                                • 8 votes
                                #4.8 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:45 PM EST

                                Oh you don't know the oxygen capacity of this fish to say that for certain Mr Romney. Stop guessing, dharmabeach doesn't like it.

                                • 2 votes
                                #4.9 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:46 PM EST

                                warm weather that warms the water and the cold currents aren't as prevalent to bring in the oxygen--lake or drop in oxygen will kill off certain plants and marine life in massive kills such as this--if it were bacteria or pollution there would be other species dead as well

                                • 5 votes
                                #4.10 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:12 PM EST

                                @dharmabeachbum chill out i skim through a-lot of articles to get the important detail. Don't get all bent out of shape for his comment. (:

                                  #4.11 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:21 PM EST

                                  Lol, do you see anything so incredibly wrong with what I wrote? LOL, he needs to chill out. But then again I like being a smartass. So I welcome his reply.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #4.12 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:22 PM EST

                                  That's true Kane. But it also backs up my original question in asking what caused the oxygen drop. Yeah it could be the hypoxia. But that is just a guess. I'm thinking that what Kane says carries more weight. Look at all the ice melt in the north, and what that is doing to jet streams.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #4.13 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:26 PM EST

                                  I've spent most of my life dealing with fisheries. These die offs happen all the time. It's noticeable when you have large schools trapped in depressions that are left isolated when the tide changes. Compare it to being locked in a bank vault with limited air, your fine until the door closes and shuts off that air supply. And TFNJ jet streams are in the air not in the water so the lack of ice doesn't do a lot. You may think of yourself as a "smartass" but it doesn't look like you qualify from here!

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                                  #4.14 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:36 PM EST

                                  Grind, because he never responded. You taking this up for him? LOl, let me know and I can get under your skin very easily. A fisherman does not equal scientist. Not unless you need a degree in fishing these days. lol

                                    #4.15 - Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:21 AM EST

                                    TFNJ Where did I claim to be a fisherman? Reread my entry, you may want to reread the story, try to understand it this time and quit jumping to conclusions. I'm not "taking" anything up. I'm simply pointing out the simplest reasoning behind fish die offs. You however, are offering all kinds of inane theories of which you know nothing about.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #4.16 - Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:16 AM EST
                                    Comment author avatarJohn Bryantvia Facebook

                                    Grind, You're right, hypoxia is a logical explanation, but that, as well as arguments to the contrary, are still speculation. Any large wildlife kill needs to be investigated, even when the cause seems to be totally obvious. Ninety-nine times out of a hundred, that will be the answer, but what about the one other one.

                                      #4.17 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:00 PM EST
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                                      Can't imagine how awful that beach must smell... but something tells me it'd would remind me of Philadelphia...

                                      • 2 votes
                                      Reply#5 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:49 PM EST

                                      Hmmm, that's funny, I grew up in Philly and still get down there and walk around the city pretty often. Doesn't smell anything like dead fish...

                                        #5.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:17 PM EST

                                        Kirk, I'm originally a Philadelphia native, just making a joke. There is that strange musty smell though, I always notice it whenever I get off the plane at the airport.

                                          #5.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:01 PM EST
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                                          Too many people = too much polution = Death.

                                          • 4 votes
                                          Reply#6 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:37 PM EST

                                          Its the carbon track from Al (the blimp) Gores, private jet............. or maybe Christians or bush did it

                                          • 6 votes
                                          Reply#7 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:38 PM EST

                                          Washington will most likly do a study to find out why we can't make these fish live for ever...

                                          • 6 votes
                                          Reply#8 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:38 PM EST

                                          The "Officials" and Media would not lie...

                                          • 3 votes
                                          Reply#9 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:38 PM EST

                                          Ban fish

                                          • 8 votes
                                          Reply#10 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:39 PM EST

                                          It's the Russians offshore in their nuclear subs letting off radiation. Part of obama's more flexibility.

                                          • 4 votes
                                          Reply#11 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:39 PM EST

                                          Russians are our allies. If there are Russian subs off the coast. Good they'll keep people who aren't supposed to be there away.

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #11.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:29 PM EST
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                                          HAARP.

                                          • 3 votes
                                          Reply#12 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:39 PM EST

                                          Oh...you only received a few votes. HAARP really could do this. I guess this particular type of fishes frequency has now been determined. We are truly living in scary times, but not many will allow themselves to believe it. It's much easier to just watch all these sci-fi movies and then tell ourselves "that's not real" or "they can't really do that".

                                            #12.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:16 PM EST

                                            It's not scary it's interesting.

                                              #12.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:32 PM EST
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                                              When I read the plan for clean up, I immediately pictured a bunch of fat, burping sea gulls that could fly if they wanted too. LOL!

                                              • 2 votes
                                              Reply#13 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:41 PM EST

                                              Maybe one of those fat seagulls will fly over Obama.

                                              • 6 votes
                                              #13.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:43 PM EST

                                              Could be sonar

                                                #13.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:47 PM EST
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                                                Makes you glad you breath air and not water, doesn't it?

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                                                Reply#14 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:42 PM EST

                                                Hypoxia???? lol are you kidding me... Then why only that breed of fish, why isn't there any craps and other fish???

                                                Why do people come up with exotic and stupid reasons instead of just simply admiting that this is from God as stated in the Bible.

                                                Common sense tells you also, plus being in the winter, the chance of hypoxia occuring is a trillion to one and if, IF that was the case then why only that particular breed of fish?? Why not tuna, crap, and other sea life?

                                                • 2 votes
                                                Reply#15 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:43 PM EST

                                                Yes their are craps from Washington. HA!

                                                  #15.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:44 PM EST

                                                  This is God's earth, yes, but that does not mean he waves his magic wand. Perhaps he created high tides as a way of managing the fish population, but there is no magic wand of death. these fish died from something, but they did die from God's will.

                                                  • 4 votes
                                                  #15.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:47 PM EST

                                                  Yes Dan, these fish dying was God's will. Just like it was God's will to end the reign of the dinosaur on this little planet we live on. Sheesh! Get with it! Bible thumping is so 2012! Don't you know conspiracy theorists are in fashion now?

                                                  • 6 votes
                                                  #15.3 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:55 PM EST

                                                  If you read the article carefully and knew anything about high and low tide you would not make such stupid comments. The school of fish, typically all the same species, came in with the high tide and due to an extra low tide they got caught in a pool of water and had no way to get back out into the open sea.

                                                  The pool of water ran out of dissolved oxygen for the fish to take in so they all suffocated. The next tide rolled in and washed them up onto shore.

                                                  Not that complicated for the non-bible reading folk to figure out.

                                                  • 8 votes
                                                  #15.4 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:57 PM EST

                                                  FAR..too many craps in washington

                                                    #15.5 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:06 PM EST

                                                    Or the ill-mannered, right dizz?

                                                      #15.6 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:14 PM EST

                                                      I was kinda thinking the same as you & as "Georgepauljohn" (above)

                                                      If this especially had happened prior to December 21, 2012 I would be

                                                      more worried!!! But we already passed that presumed "Dooms Day"

                                                      stuff!!!! But still, not buying thaty BULL@!$%# they're trying to give us

                                                      as their "educated" explanation!!!!! I might be a little dumb but come

                                                      F$#@!@# ON MAN!!!!!

                                                        #15.7 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:36 PM EST
                                                        Comment author avatarAlonzo Garciavia Facebook

                                                        as a fiherman those manhayden probally got chased to the beach by bigger fish feedin on them..since they are a baitfish that alot of kingmackeral fishers call "poagies"..being in less water on the shores they have less oxygen to breath and manhayden form a VERY tight school together..they die very easily with less oxygen cause manhayden usual take it to deeper waters

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                                                        #15.8 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:14 PM EST

                                                        I hope this is a joke.

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                                                        #15.9 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:19 PM EST

                                                        wow. seriously? that's your theory? maybe they swam ashore to endorse Appalachian Sanford's candidacy for governor.....

                                                          #15.10 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:03 PM EST
                                                          Comment author avatarJohn Bryantvia Facebook

                                                          Hey Bidondi, What kind of fish is crap? I'll bet that doesn't sell too well. I think you'd be a little happier to shut off that evil computer and go back to reading the Bible.

                                                            #15.11 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:07 PM EST
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                                                            Too many people = too much pollution = too many fish = too many polluted people that won't eat dead polluted fish.

                                                              Reply#16 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:43 PM EST

                                                              Another Government high pitched radio frequency noise experiment that kill these fish. just like the one in the state of Washington were by the way the caught two mermaid one dead and one alive and thousand of dead fish.

                                                                Reply#17 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:44 PM EST
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                                                                um, that a large shoal of fish got caught up in a tidal pool during low tide and suffocated because they used all the oxygen isn't a stretch at all and is known to happen. The fish just landed in the wrong place, got trapped together, and the unfortunate circumstance led them to their early end and then they got washed ashore when the tide came back in. Period. End of story. I think that last comment was really unnecessary, TFNJ. So now you're proud of yourself because you're nasty? Good going. This is one of those articles that shouldn't be posted on anyway because it's just a typical reporting of events....which is lovely for a change, in my opinion. But, of course, it's opened up for commenting and this is what we wind up with. Skeptics, nay-sayers, conspiracy theroists....and on and on and on it goes. Life isn't all mystery and hokum, kids. Some should have payed more attention in school.....and yes, now you're free to tell me what a complete ignorant sob i am, too. Have at it kiddoes.

                                                                • 10 votes
                                                                Reply#18 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:44 PM EST

                                                                Bravo!

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                                                                #18.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:48 PM EST
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                                                                Comment author avatarAaron Backhusvia Facebook

                                                                Blame Guns!!!!!

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                                                                Reply#19 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:45 PM EST

                                                                Warm Day? dead fish, bad combination...

                                                                • 1 vote
                                                                Reply#20 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:46 PM EST

                                                                I bet that beach smells like Honey Boo Boo's mom.

                                                                • 6 votes
                                                                Reply#21 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:47 PM EST

                                                                It is the dieing away of the animals. Today its fish tomarrow its birds, next week its bees. Its the dieing away of the animals. Regardless of what caused it to occur its is still the same thing spoke of in the Bible.

                                                                • 1 vote
                                                                Reply#22 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:48 PM EST

                                                                Fish kills are a naturally occuring phenomenon that have been happening as long as fish have been in the water.

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                                                                #22.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:21 PM EST

                                                                Too bad something like this could not happen to our congress, every 3 years would be great...

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                                                                #22.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:24 PM EST
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                                                                “On Friday we had a new moon (which caused) real high high tides and real low low tides,” Bell told The Sun News. “Probably what happened was a school (of menhaden) got in an area of water on a high tide, in a hole or depression, and at low tide they were trapped and depleted the oxygen in the water. Then, all the fish would suffocate. Then, when the tide came back in, it washed the dead fish out and they washed up on the beach.”

                                                                That's more than likely what happened...

                                                                But it looks like most in here didn't even READ the article. Much more fun to just make crap up I guess.

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                                                                Reply#23 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:49 PM EST

                                                                Full moon?!?! My balls!!!!

                                                                  #23.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:15 PM EST
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                                                                  Something's very fishy about this story a ohhhhhhhhhhh!!!

                                                                  • 1 vote
                                                                  Reply#24 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:51 PM EST

                                                                  They can't put anything on the Internet unless it's true. Bonjoure

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                                                                  #24.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:58 PM EST
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                                                                  no, last time i ever seen anything like this it was sound waves that killed the fish, they washed up on the beach...it was a long time ago but that look's exactly like this.

                                                                  • 1 vote
                                                                  Reply#25 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:53 PM EST

                                                                  Loser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                                                                  #25.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:35 PM EST
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