Porn actress-turned-teacher unfit to return to school, judges say

NBC Los Angeles

Stacie Halas, the eighth-grade teacher at the center of an adult film controversy, appears outside an administrative court hearing in Oxnard on Oct. 25.

An eighth-grade teacher in Oxnard who appeared in adult films for the money before she became a teacher was deemed unfit to teach, a three-member panel of California state administrative judges has ruled.


"Her inclination to simultaneously engage in employment in pornography and teaching demonstrates her unfitness for service as a teacher," wrote administrative law judge Julie Cabos-Owen.

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"Respondent, Stacie Halas, shall be dismissed," according to the ruling, which was also signed by commission members Karen Rapien and Cara Comstock.

The judges on the Commission on Professional Competence said Halas, who taught at Haydock Intermediate School, was being dishonest when she was confronted by school officials about her appearance in adult films as "Tiffany Six."


The 32-year-old teacher was in the spotlight when a video featuring her surfaced on the Internet in April and school district officials voted to fire her, saying she would become a distraction and that she lied about her past.

Halas appealed the decision, telling an administrative law panel in October that she denied being intentionally misleading about her role in an adult film that surfaced in April and that it preceded her teaching career.

She said that she didn't think any videos featuring her remained on the Internet when she was confronted by officials and removed from her teaching post.

A message left for Halas' attorney, Robert Schwab, was not immediately returned. He told the Ventura County Star that he was considering appealing the decision.

"With all due respect to the commission's decision, we do believe Ms. Halas was being honest and forthright but was extremely embarrassed and humiliated by her previous experience in the adult industry,” Schwab told the Star.

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Pretty sad they are going to force her back into porn.

Amazing coming from the fruitcakes in CA.

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Reply#1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:29 PM EST

Well, if she can't teach the next best thing is politics since they are so good at screwing people and she's already trained for that.

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#2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:29 PM EST

The only thing she'll have to learn to make a politician is how to keep screwing people after they are dead.

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#2.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:40 PM EST

A panel of 3 female judges.

Sounds like a fair hearing. These are the same kind of women that catch their husbands looking at p0rn and become "outraged".

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#2.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:13 PM EST

Seems like if they think she'd be a distraction b/c of her past, and thus not fit to be a teacher, they should still find another position for her within the school system. Yes, I said position.

  • 18 votes
#2.3 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:25 PM EST

My first thought was this was not fair. THEN I put her name in a Google search >WOW !!

I have known Dancers that stripped at night and then they would teach in the day, that is ok the kids can't see them!

She put it ALL out there and now she has to live with it! Stay away from the kids "lady"

  • 7 votes
#2.4 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:09 PM EST

Why can't I reply to the first posting?

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#2.5 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:13 PM EST

"Her inclination to simultaneously engage in employment in pornography and teaching demonstrates her unfitness for service as a teacher," wrote administrative law judge Julie Cabos-Owen.

Something doesn't square. The judge says she simultaneously engaged in pornography but the article also says it was prior to teaching. The commenter above who googled her name seemed to have NO TROUBLE finding countless instances of her exploits on the internet, giving little credence to the comment she made about "believing no instances of her career were left on the internet."

There HAVE to be better role models for our kids than her. I can about bet every 8th grade boy at her school has googled (and then ogled) "Tiffany Six"!

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#2.6 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:13 PM EST

America the Prud.

Oh I see you went streaking across your college campus when you were 19. WELL, you're just unfit to do anything productive in society.

.

  • 32 votes
#2.7 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:24 PM EST

Look on the bright side people, if you are an executive that screws your investors, cheats on your wife and squanders/embezzles your employees pension plans you can just get a "golden parachute" and be back at another fortune 500 company in no time.

The ridiculous moral litmus test that people apply to others is despicable. So if someone is intelligent, educated and wants to do something to help the future leaders of the world by teaching children, they can do so as long as they haven't committed any sins in their previous years. How does that work for tel-evangelists, crooked politicians and so many of you "devoutly religious" folk out there? Funny, I thought Jesus taught about forgiveness, but in America we liberally interpret which religious tenets we follow and which are more so guidelines right?

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#2.8 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:06 PM EST

My first instinct was to say this wasnt fair either, but then I gave it some thought and concluded that IF her students can google and find her in porn, end of story.

and sadly, this is the internet, nothing ever REALLY goes away...

Sometimes when we make choices in life, they follow us for a long long time.

Stinks that this woman made such a huge mistake that she's paying for now, but thats just how it goes.

I have little respect for women who go into the service industry of prostitution, porn, stripping or anything along those lines to "pay their way through college"...

and yes, I have far less respect for the men who make these professions even possible.

it all just ruins so many lives in so many ways, it's just mind numbing. sad really.

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#2.9 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:09 PM EST

Chris - you're looking at it from a weird angle.

It's not about "screwing up" or "making bad choices" - its about the children you teach, having access to those bad choices you make via google.

do you think you're employer would keep you employed if your customers, or fellow employee's started passing around a video of you burning kittens when you were 21 and drunk?

again, it's not about some "dumb thing" you did long ago, it's about the embarrassment and distraction those actions are causing NOW.

welcome to to the digital age, you're past is most definitely going to haunt you if it possibly can.

I thank jebus when I was dumb and young, no one had cell phones let alone ones with video camera's. kids today, they dont know how bad they are screwing themselves over...and their parents dont appear to get it either.

they will when they are 35 years old and still unable to keep a full time job because of all the idotic crap they did and posted to the internet.

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#2.10 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:13 PM EST

Good point, US'76. I was a male stripper in a womens' club while in grad school and everybody knew it. The professors, even the department head, constantly joked about it. I was teaching classes and labs at the time, got a PhD, and was later hired onto the faculty. I'm seeing discrimination and its totally not fair. Its also stupid to lose a good teacher. A lot of people, male and female, have a lot of sex when they're young. Seems only the females get stigmatized.

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#2.11 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:14 PM EST

We are so conservative around here when it comes to sex and the human body. She did nothing illegal, saved her money, went to college, got a degree, left the business and tried to turn her life around. I swear we treat ex-convicts better than we treat these people.

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#2.12 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:25 PM EST
Comment author avataro_qExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

@2liberal

Are your pics on the internet? If so I would have no problem firing YOU

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#2.13 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:27 PM EST

What she does on her own time is her own business, as long as she doesn't bring it into the classroom.

If the school wants to mandate a moral policy, they need to compensate her to live the life of a prude outside of her hours working at the school.

If the students at the elementary school had parents which were capable of parenting in this century, they would be able to block their innocent children's access to indecent materials on the Internet.

I hope she sues the pants off of the school.

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#2.14 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:07 PM EST

Freakin people in this country. Everyone wants a person to be self-sufficient...so this woman did what she had to do to be a productive member of society and now they are going to punish her? And then they wonder why people just go on welfare.

If I was a principle she would have a job at my school. As long as she wasn't hurting children it isn't any of my business how she made her living. Ef this place!

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#2.15 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:10 PM EST

So... exactly how did her films come to the attention of the school officials?

Did they stumble across these films by accident, or do they routinely search porn sites looking for teachers?

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#2.16 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:23 PM EST

What does being in the porn industry have to do with Teaching 8th graders? I can understand if she was into child porn or something, but doing porn for adult entertainment should not have anything to do with teaching. With this logic, then anyone who has watched porn or looked at porn should not be able to teach either because they are condoning the porn industry. Wonder if the 3 better then thou judges have ever looked at porn?

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#2.17 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:42 PM EST

This is complete BS and hopefully this ruling will be overturned on appeal. I find it very interesting that the three judge panel that ruled against her was made up of all women. This in itself make me question the fairness of the hearing. As for the case, her adult film activities were completely legal and took place before she became a teacher. There was nothing illegal about those activities so they should have no bearing on a determination of her fitness to be a teacher. By all accounts, she is a very good teacher who is well liked by her colleagues and her students. Had the school administration not made such a big deal out of this, the odds are that none of her students would ever have found out about her past. She was teaching at an intermediate school, so her students were not likely to be surfing porn, particularly if they have responsible parents who are paying attention to their kid's on-line activity. This woman has done nothing illegal and there is absolutely no evidence that her past had in any way intruded into her classroom and affected her ability to teach. Other articles indicated that she was considered to be a very good teacher and that her students did very well. It is a complete travesty and miscarriage of justice to be removing her from teaching. This is nothing more than a bunch of prudish administrators and prudish female administrative judges voicing their moral opinions of her past through this process. Their actions are legally indefensible and this ruling should be overturned on appeal. Of course because of all of the press generated by these self righteous prudes, it may now become an issue that intrudes into the classroom as everyone, including students and their parents, now know about her past. I can see parents who otherwise would have been perfectly happy having their kids taught by a good, well liked teacher now objecting to having their kids in her class for absurd, judgemental reasons that have nothing to do with her teaching ability. This woman needs to sue the school system for their actions and their handling of this entire matter as, even if she wins, returning to the classroom may turn out to be almost impossible.

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#2.18 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:21 PM EST

This is like an AIG Insurance executive who raped America not being allowed to teach Jr. High........After a 2nd thought maybe there are limitations of potential educators. I hope she wins her case.

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#2.19 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:31 PM EST

@SpcTorres - What do you mean... These People! lol

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#2.20 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:33 PM EST

You would be surprised (not really) how many lady (and some male) doctors and lawyers and judges stripped and screwed their way through school. If she is capable of doing her job well then she should be allowed to keep working.

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#2.21 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:35 PM EST

What's the big deal?

There are nothing but WHORES in Washington

AND NO ONE SEEMS TO MIND

THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE IS THE BIGGEST WHORE HOUSE IN THE WORLD

  • 7 votes
#2.22 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:18 PM EST

Wonder what the reaction would be if it were a male engaging in male to male porn? Always different rules for the sicko women teachers.

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#2.23 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:25 PM EST

So the big deal is she looks good enough to/and has been in porn? How does this play into her "Professional Competence?" It doesn't! If the school is worried about teenaged boys seeing her naked, well that falls on the parents to regulate their internet use. I hope she sues the hell out of the school system and screws them all!

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#2.24 - Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:19 AM EST

Big deal, she worked in one legal profession before she worked in another. If the kids she teach get distracted by *their parents allowing them to watch the porn* (which is illegal for kids, right?) then that's another good lesson for the kids - women have sex, and are still great professionals and you'd better respect them. Weird virgin/whore complex this society has. I sure hope she sues and wins millions.

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#2.25 - Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:18 AM EST
Comment author avatarMargaret Murphyvia Facebook

I agree. She did this to survive and put herself through school...her past life..now she is a teacher...not doing porn...let her teach.

Middle school kids should not be watching this stuff....

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#2.26 - Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:12 AM EST

I'm pretty liberal, but I also have young kids in school. A long time ago, I too was in 8th grade, albeit without a 4G iPhone.

But today, even middle-school kids have iPhones, or an iSomething that can store and replay mp4's, mpeg's, wmv's, etc.

Once any of the kids have any of her "scenes" on a portable store-and-replay device, she can no longer effectively teach at that school.

Any of you who think a teacher can be effective in the classroom while all the boys in the school are trading files from her "porn" days are being foolish. Yep, I get it, it's middle-school and not every kid has an i-Phone. But welcome to 2013 where enough 8th-grade kids do have a store-and-replay device. All it takes is a couple of boys to show the videos in the bathroom. And when the source of those videos (the internet) can't be shut off, then kid after kid will seek those videos and share them.

It's IMPOSSIBLE for a teacher to be effective when the boys in the school are file swapping her porn days. It doesn't sound possible "in theory" and I sure don't see how it would be plausible "in practice".

    #2.27 - Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:21 PM EST

    Hmmmm...now that decision by that pack of fruitcake judges was downright un-liberal and, dare I say, very intolerant.

    I believe they should rewrite their decision to read: An illegal alien's inclination to simultaneously engage in felonious behavior by breaching our border without proper documentation, and sucking up America's resources like an ungrateful parasite, demonstrates their unfitness to reside in this country under ANY circumstances - ever!

    There, now that's better.

      #2.28 - Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:48 PM EST

      "Her inclination to simultaneously engage in employment in pornography and teaching demonstrates her unfitness for service as a teacher," wrote administrative law judge Julie Cabos-Owen.

      Talk about a hate crime! A judge finds a teacher who committed no crime unfit. The judge has just demonstrated she is unfit for her job and should lose it immediately along with the other two.

        #2.29 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:23 PM EST
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        I don't have a problem with her. Come on now, people they hire with "clean" backgrounds sometimes turn out to be awful people. Also, attendance at PTA meetings by dads would be up by at least 75%.

        As long as she's not doing anything sexual with a child, why should it matter? Should we exclude teachers that watch porn, too?

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        #3 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:31 PM EST

        It's not that people have an issue, it's that with the kids walking around with her videos on their phones it makes a healthy learning atmosphere pretty impossible, too much of a scandal.

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        #3.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:41 PM EST

        That sounds like a problem with the parents not monitoring what their kids are viewing or putting them on their smart phones.

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        #3.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:45 PM EST

        Get out here every device in the world has open access to the internet, you can't police that. Once the word is out all kids have access to her vids, they're all over bing videos, I looked at like five last night (pretty good stuff). You think it's possible to police every kid in the school even if you are monitoring your kids web usage? It's not...

        You go into porn for the quick money, you go in knowing your career options are limited, a run for office is probably out too.

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        #3.3 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:50 PM EST

        If my son was in eight grade (or any age, really) with porn on a phone I'm paying for, he's not going to have a phone anymore unless it's a decrepit old flip phone with no texting capabilities.

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        #3.4 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:54 PM EST

        Her career options are limited because of bigoted people based on archaic religious BS. Oh noes! It's SEX! Everybody hide! Turn the channel to something with bodies being ripped apart instead!

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        #3.5 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:54 PM EST

        What about his ten friends with access to any one of the thousands of sites that have her videos online? How are you going to deal with that? Claiming your kids won't be able to see it because you're just that good at monitoring them is unbelievably naive. Odds are your kids are 10 times smarter on how to hide things on their phone than you anyway.

        Literally kids were playing her videos in class, walking the hallways showing them to each other, it's a huge scandal, no way she could keep her job after this came out.

        • 11 votes
        #3.6 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:57 PM EST

        Maybe that is why an 8th grader shouldn't have a smartphone.....mine wont.

        I'm torn on this one actually. On one hand I don't want a porn actress to teach my children, on the other hand she likely was just some young woman needing cash and saw a quick payday. I believe people do change (as I have greatly in my life) but unfortunately her great mistake was on camera and lives forever on the internet.....thank the lord that my actions of late teen/early twenties weren't recorded for the world to see.....I certainly wouldn't have the place in life I do today.

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        #3.7 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:58 PM EST

        "Maybe that is why an 8th grader shouldn't have a smartphone.....mine wont."

        Again incredibly naive, his ten friends will...

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        #3.8 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:01 PM EST

        Just very sad situation. It is called sex, mostly everyone does it, but some people put it on film and get paid for it and that makes it bad?? The people who look down their noses at her and what she did in her past probably don't want anyone knowing what they do behind closed doors right now and want everyone to think they are saints. Don't like the thought of those people teaching my kids either.

        • 21 votes
        #3.9 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:13 PM EST

        I agree, what she did is not against the law. I would think a different grade level might help her since 8th graders can still be quite immature at times. Sometimes things stink because you spray them with stink.

        • 8 votes
        #3.10 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:15 PM EST

        If she is teaching elementary, this is not a big deal.

        IF she is teaching middle school, again this is not a big deal.

        Personally, if she is teaching high school, its not a big deal....

        how many of the kids would know her porn name? Hell, if the School Board just kept it quiet, 99 percent of us wouldnt ever put her real name to her porn name UNLESS we went looking for it...

        • 18 votes
        #3.11 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:33 PM EST

        So... 8th graders walking around with smart phones looking at porn, and we're upset about the teacher, not the fact, that 8th graders are walking around with smart phones looking at porn.

        Right... priorities... it's all about the children, after all....

        • 41 votes
        #3.12 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:33 PM EST

        Matt..so right there. Are those 8th graders getting punished for watching it, having it on their phones, for sharing it, for using their phones watching it going down the halls in school??? my kids' schools don't allow the kids to have their phones on at school or they get taken away. Their priorities are all wrong here on who is doing the wrong thing.

        • 21 votes
        #3.13 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:37 PM EST

        Have her teach sex ed.

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        #3.14 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:39 PM EST

        Mike you have quite the imagination.

          #3.15 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:39 PM EST

          "Hot for Teacher" Van Halen is playing out.........

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          #3.16 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:05 PM EST

          There is no way to possibly keep the word of the teacher's former life secret from the class. Middle school children know how to google, and will undoubtedly put the teacher's name in to a search and come across these videos. There is no amount of hiding away that can be done. The cat is out of the bag, and all it takes is one person that stumbles across something, and he whole class is in the know.

          If you've even ever met a middle school child, you will understand that all respect that the teacher commands in the classroom will fall out the window as soon as her entire class has seen her in the most sexual positions these young horn-ball minds have ever seen. I doubt you would be able to find a single kid in the class, especially amongst the boys, who would have the proper respect for her. It has nothing to do with the right or wrong of pornography, and everything to do with the fact that teaching within this environment will not be effective.

          • 6 votes
          #3.17 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:31 PM EST

          Get real- word travels fast amongst kids and with this press coverage you can bet every kid in that school watched teacher do the bang bang.

          You want your kids to see what teach used to do? She sure gave them quite an education eh?

          • 3 votes
          #3.18 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:25 PM EST

          lot's of delusional parents on these boards, it's kinda hilarious

          but yeah, im sure YOUR KID wont ever be THAT KID looking and laughing at porn, showing their friends or looking on their friends phone. nope, not YOUR KID, because you're that awesome parent who's there every second of every day capable of knowing every last thing.

          I was shocked to learn that my nephew, who's 7, spends an hour or two every day surfing youtube for football video's, and it horrified me to think what kind of OTHER video's are catching his eye - while his parents are busy making dinner.

          yeah, it's just football...but all it takes is something pornish with the word football in it for him to SEE something he shouldnt.

          kids dont always mean to stumble on porn, but it's like a bad accident...few are going to look away.

          • 2 votes
          #3.19 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:31 PM EST

          Wow...she took some massive wang. And a whole lot of it.

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          #3.20 - Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:54 AM EST

          Amazingly how pompous our society is. Three up tight, better than though, women that are absolutely without any skeletons in their closet(I doubt), probably virgins too, make the decision on whether or not someone is not "good" enough for one profession because she excelled at another.

          Then again...maybe they are jealous.

          As to kids and access to the internet, since any responsible adult would not give any adolescent access to media without supervision...how can this be a problem?

          My youngest son had the good fortune to spend a semester as a foreign exchange student in Marseille, France about 15 years ago, it really opened my eyes to how puritanical we are here in the States. His sponser's home was directly across the road from the beach and it was quite obvious that clothing was optional...and nobody got their panties in a wad over it.

          • 2 votes
          #3.21 - Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:01 PM EST
          Reply

          So how many of you just ran to bing and looked up tiffany six videos? dont' lie...

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          Reply#4 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:31 PM EST

          You got me!!!

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          #4.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:53 PM EST

          Well I didn't!

          I just pulled her video from my collection and watched it. LOL

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          #4.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:10 PM EST

          Guilty. Why didn't we have teachers like that when I was in middle school? She would definately have my full attention!

          • 12 votes
          #4.3 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:12 PM EST

          I saw one of her films some time ago. It would be difficult to explain to a teenager some of the sex acts depicted. Certainly wouldn't want kids trying this stuff. She was quite talented but this type of sex is generally for adult professionals only. Should have disclaimers on the video I saw- Do not try this at home!

          • 1 vote
          #4.4 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:12 PM EST

          I needed more information before coming to a conclusion on this.

          • 4 votes
          #4.5 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:24 PM EST

          Yes, of course! Nasty stuff. Those kids who saw her got quite an education no doubt.

          • 2 votes
          #4.6 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:36 PM EST

          I didn't look at them - I'm gay.

          • 1 vote
          #4.7 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:11 PM EST

          i did. Nice. Man, I love porn....

            #4.8 - Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:56 AM EST

            Absolutely! Can't say I blame the board's decision. She didn't do just a little bit of porn. There's quite a bit out there and she was a dirty dirty nasty little girl who did not discriminate who it was coming from! No question it would have been a distraction for her students.

              #4.9 - Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:22 AM EST

              God forbid that someone have sex and enjoy. Of course, that she would do whatever you deem "dirty" just makes her some filthy skank-whore who deserves nothing better. Of course, you watched it. Wonder which is worse--the person doing it, or the person who creates the market and demand for it to be done.

              It's just sex, people. I don't care who "dirty" or "nasty" it was--it was just sex. If kids are watching it in the halls and the classrooms--that's a discipline problem in the school--not a problem with her past. When did we stop having expectations of behavior from kids?

              As far as the whole "they won't respect her anymore" argument--that's because they're being taught by their prudish, uptight parents that anyone who has or enjoys sex doesn't deserve any respect. Once again--not a problem with her, a problem with the @!$%#s doing the parenting who can't get outside some puritanical mindset about "propriety."

              • 3 votes
              #4.10 - Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:23 AM EST

              Guilty, your Honor. Where were these teachers when I was in high school ? And before internet porn, there were your dad's Playboys. How come dads all across the US weren't being arrested ?

              • 1 vote
              #4.11 - Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:57 PM EST

              voiceontheleft, I think you've made a giant leap between sex and pornography. Sex is one thing, porn is another. For the record, I'm on the left too.

              To say "it's just sex, people" is disingenuous. It's not just sex, it's pornography and there is a difference.

              Kids watching her vids in school isn't just "a discipline problem in the school".. it's an ADDITIONAL discipline problem on top of all the other discipline problems the school has to deal with. All due to the baggage brought in by one of the teachers.

              Prudes aren't claiming that this woman deserves less respect because she enjoys sex. What people do in the PRIVACY of their own homes is their own business and almost everyone agrees with that. Prudes are claiming she deserves less respect because she was a SEX WORKER. I see the difference.... maybe you don't.

              I also believe it's disingenuous to declare those put off by sex workers as "puritanical". When my kid is in 8th grade, I definitely don't want him being taught in school by an ex-sex worker (male or female). Not because they "enjoy sex", but because they worked in the sex industry. I see a big difference between the two.

                #4.12 - Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:52 PM EST

                Why should she be barred from teaching for having been a sex worker? It's a legal profession. She did nothing illegal. What about her past makes her incapable of teaching? Give me solid, actual evidence that someone who has worked as a sex worker is incapable of being a teacher. You can't, because the only reasoning comes from the puritanical idea of her as a tainted person because she deviated from what you consider acceptable behavior.

                There are plenty of people I would rather my child was not taught by, but I don't get to make that call. So long as they are qualified, competent teachers, they have the right to work in their profession. According to the reports, she was a good teacher.

                On the other hand, what are these kids doing looking at porn? Where are their parents? Perhaps they should be more concerned about their own lack of parenting skills that led their children to be watching porn than they should be about what this teacher did in the past.

                And porn is just sex. It's sex on camera, but it's just sex. Get over it.

                • 4 votes
                #4.13 - Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:39 PM EST
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                If we had this same standard for our policitians in Washington, many of them would never be there. Of course, porn has a higher approval rating then congress did last year.

                The teacher should not have lost her job because of her previous job.. but then again, she should have provided full disclosure as well.

                • 21 votes
                Reply#5 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:32 PM EST

                Well at least with porn you get to choose to look at it or not. Politicians screw everybody they possibly can and we don't really get to choose if we participate or not.

                As for her. Let this be another lesson to people to be more careful what they do in life. Your past has a way of catching up to you unless you are powerful enough to keep it buried.

                Alas, everyone thinks they are immune to something like this happening to them.

                • 5 votes
                #5.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:50 PM EST

                If she were a politician, she would simply go to rehab, state she was born again and then create new anti-porn legislation.

                • 5 votes
                #5.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:13 PM EST
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                This is retarded. They act as if sex is illegal and no respectable teacher would ever engage in such acts!

                Meanwhile, one of the board members quietly enjoys watching porn and riding a sex swing with her husband 3 nights per week.

                So absurd.

                • 40 votes
                Reply#6 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:32 PM EST

                Nope, that's not it. After the children have seen her in various sexual acts, they will NOT respect her. She will be a joke, especially among the boys. I'm not saying that she deserves to be fired. It's just that the learning environment totally changes. It would just be too difficult to keep their attention when all they can think about is her giving head.

                The Board member has every right to watch porn and ride her swing. She just shouldn't video tape it.

                • 3 votes
                #6.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:15 PM EST

                All porn sites require that you be at least 18 to watch them, so the students were actually in the wrong. They should have been expelled for harassing her. I think she should still be allowed to teach, but of course not at that school, her reputation there has been ruined.

                • 1 vote
                #6.2 - Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:33 AM EST

                God forbid we actually teach our children that teachers simply deserve respect and censure them for accessing material that's illegal for them to view. No, instead, we'll teach them that women who enjoy sex or engage in sex are shameful whores deserving of no respect at all. in fact, why don't we just teach them that they are all just filth on legs meant for breeding while we're at it? Heck, maybe we should start teaching that they are just meant for making babies and we can start excluding them from the professional world entirely--I mean, once you see your teacher is pregnant, then aren't you only going to think about the fact she had sex to make that baby? We could go back to that model where teachers are automatically fired the moment they get pregnant and are never allowed to teach again because they have children and we know they are no longer "pure"--that's how we used to do it.

                • 2 votes
                #6.3 - Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:29 AM EST

                voiceontheleft.... you continue to bring up every aspect of "socially acceptable" female sexuality, and completely IGNORE the fact that this story is about pornography, not sex.

                These kids aren't swapping stories about this woman and her husband and what they do in the privacy of their own home. They're file swapping mp4s from her porn days.

                There's a HUGE difference between all the aspects of sexuality that you describe... AND PORNOGRAPHY. Instead of using normal sexual behavior to support your position, use pornography to support your position.

                  #6.4 - Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:02 PM EST

                  And, Harold, you seem to think that the taboo against pornography is in and of itself justified. The arbitrary line of "socially acceptable" is not hard an fast. We used to fire teachers for being pregnant. We finally realized that was a bit over board.

                  Porn is a legal profession, and it was what she did at the time to pay the bills. She could have sold crack. She could have busted her ass 80 hours a week at McDonald's and not had time to do her studies, but instead she went into a lucrative, part-time profession that allowed her to finish her studies and get to where she wanted to be in life.

                  Just because you refuse to accept pornography doesn't mean it is inherently evil. Nothing about her having participated in it in the past affects her ability to teach in a classroom. (Heck, even if she was still doing it, it wouldn't affect her ability to teach.) The only "difference" between the "sexuality I describe" and pornography is a recording.

                  And as far as the kids swapping files--once again, that's a problem with parenting. It's not her issue.

                  • 2 votes
                  #6.5 - Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:45 PM EST

                  @ InMyDay

                  I'm sure they came accross her movies while being a consumer of the porn. F'in hypocrits. School administrators and the friggin' Parental Tyrant Association were always a bunch of tight arsed hypocrits when I was in school and still are.

                  She had a legal job and supported herself. Isn't that what we all want people to do. No government handouts to get by. Sure she could have made other choices and scraped by, maybe. She didn't break any laws and if this is accurate it was before she was a teacher and before she signed an moralality clauses in her teachers contract.

                  All of you with kids that got caught on girls gone wild planning on supporting your daughters forever so they don't sully the rest of us lilly white americans.

                    #6.6 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:41 PM EST
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                    I wish she was my teacher... Hot for Teacher!

                    • 9 votes
                    Reply#7 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:32 PM EST

                    Good point, Delta. I had a weekend fling with a very hot teacher when I was a high school senior. I still knew I had to turn in assigments, pass tests, and do exactly as she said. Seeing her in a porn show would be no different. (But personally, I like the real thing better).

                    • 1 vote
                    #7.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:22 PM EST
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                    She thought all of the evidence of her and porn were all off the internet. Are you kidding me? Once you post ANYTHING to the internet it spreads like wildfire. I do feel bad for her because it sounds like she wanted to change her life and make a difference being a teacher. People should be able to start over after mistakes as long as they didn't hurt anybody. She just caught busted for her past.

                    • 12 votes
                    Reply#8 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:32 PM EST

                    An eighth-grade teacher in Oxnard who appeared in adult films for the money before she became a teacher was deemed unfit to teach, a three-member panel of California state administrative judges has ruled.

                    "Her inclination to simultaneously engage in employment in pornography and teaching demonstrates her unfitness for service as a teacher," wrote administrative law judge Julie Cabos-Owen

                    Uh, Judge? I'm pretty sure 'simultaneously' means at the same time, or at least during the same time period.

                    • 23 votes
                    Reply#9 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:32 PM EST

                    Exactly. Everything I read saws she was not doing porn at the same time as teaching.

                    I don't know if there is an appeal route for her but I think this is absurd but remember it's Cali so the fruitcakes can get offended by things even if they are perfectly legal and in the past.

                    • 1 vote
                    #9.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:47 PM EST

                    It's not the fruitcakes getting upset. It's the religous (who think they're) right.

                    • 4 votes
                    #9.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:15 PM EST

                    It's mixed, really. Some of the people getting upset are liberals (who say things like "disrespectful," ect., ect.), and some of the people getting upset are conservatives (who say things like "immoral," ect., ect.).

                    Can't blame this one on either political inclination.

                    • 2 votes
                    #9.3 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:45 PM EST
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                    What can they do? The word was out her students were walking around with her videos on their iPhones, it was a scandal. It has nothing to do with the moral judgment but that it creates an impossible position for the school. I have nothing against porn, but really the school had no choice, when you go into porn, you go into knowing this may limit your career choices down the line.

                    • 12 votes
                    Reply#10 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:33 PM EST

                    Why should it limit them?? The school had a choice...I'm tired of these moral blowhards that pretend to be all squeaky clean, but when they go home surf the web for porn....

                    • 14 votes
                    #10.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:53 PM EST

                    It had nothing to do with moral blowhards, they aren't bringing that back to school. She was a public porn figure and the children were viewing and sharing her videos at school, it was a complete scandal, she also lied multiple times to administrators, something that will get you fired everytime.

                    • 6 votes
                    #10.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:59 PM EST

                    Mike it IS the moral blowhards...We all have skeletons in our closet...Her's just happens to be a naked one...BUT i'm curious and i might have missed it, but what did she lie about?

                    • 2 votes
                    #10.3 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:23 PM EST

                    She denied for weeks it was her in the videos... It has everything to do with the children now knowing about it and able to look up her videos. If she made private videos no one would've cared, once you put it out there now it creates a messed up work environment for her and the children can't go to school to learn.

                    • 3 votes
                    #10.4 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:38 PM EST

                    Rob - it is ALL about the moral blowhards. If a student is showing porn around school to underage kids - regardless of who is in the video they should be suspended and arrested.

                    The school didn't take that route and gave the kids a free pass.

                    While they go home and fondle their puppies they pass judgement on a woman who by all accounts was a great teacher before the porn thing came out.

                    • 2 votes
                    #10.5 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:51 PM EST

                    Mike I don't see anywhere where it says she lied...The school CLAIMS it, but of course they will to make it easier to fire her...If she did, though, then she should be fired....But she shouldn't be fired because she worked in a LEGAL business and that is a reason why they are firing her....

                    Blame her for the kids not learning because there is NO control in the home in regards to internet use and porn downloading....

                    • 4 votes
                    #10.6 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:39 PM EST

                    Rob68... porn isn't a "skeleton in the closet". It's a skeleton on a billboard. If it's in the closet, it's hidden from view. When it's on a billboard, it's there for all to see.

                    She walked into that studio knowing that the sex she was about to have was going on a billboard, not in some closet.

                    This isn't about what she did in the privacy of her own home. This isn't about sex. It's about pornography.

                      #10.7 - Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:07 PM EST
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                      Good decision. If you have ever engaged in sex outside of marriage you are not fit to be in politics or teach. You can only go into the ministry- those guys just have to confess at everybody loves them again! Why is it that sex is more important than knowledge or experience in judging Americans?

                      • 6 votes
                      Reply#11 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:33 PM EST

                      What did she do that was illegal?

                      • 27 votes
                      Reply#12 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:34 PM EST

                      you go grrrl. the world is your oyster.....er...maybe your world is just porn, after all.

                      Doh!

                      women seem to think they're entitled to anything simply based upon their gender.

                      A man in this situation would be vilified, no doubt. Not just denied. VILIFIED and demonized !

                      the pussy pass is real, and working overtime !

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#13 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:36 PM EST

                      wild-P

                      you go grrrl. the world is your oyster.....

                      All the way until your oyster is on view all over the world.

                      • 4 votes
                      #13.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:42 PM EST

                      A man would be vilified? We've had male politicians who posed nude for cosmo and nobody thought twice about it. Just because you'd vilify them doesn't mean they did anything wrong.

                      • 7 votes
                      #13.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:06 PM EST

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                        #13.3 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:24 PM EST
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                        I'll be happy to offer her a job home schooling my kids.

                        • 10 votes
                        Reply#14 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:39 PM EST

                        Cause these are the real problems that are facing america......Who cares?

                        • 5 votes
                        Reply#15 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:41 PM EST

                        I'm sorry, but she has shown really poor problem-solving skills. Many people have struggled economically and still managed to achieve their goals by doing honorable work. I had a Master's degree and couldn't find a teaching job I wanted, so I worked three jobs at the same time for a year - during the day I was an administrative assistant and at night I had two different waitressing jobs. It was really hard, but I hung on and finally got the career I wanted without resorting to pornography.

                        This speaks to how poor young people's problem-solving skills have become. I saw it constantly while teaching and I see the results everywhere in incompetence in the work force. It's really scary!

                        She did lie about her background. That alone is grounds for dismissal. Plus, with all the problems recently with teachers having sexual relations with students, why would a school district want to hire someone who has engaged in pornography!

                        Duh...

                        • 8 votes
                        Reply#16 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:42 PM EST

                        What's so dishonorable about porn?

                        Because you disapprove?

                        • 17 votes
                        #16.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:02 PM EST

                        Seems like maybe she managed to make a living with only one, completely legal, job. She sounds pretty smart to me compared to someone that would work three jobs. America needs more people who understand economics better -- and what better jobs for those people than to teach our youth. It's just stupid to work three jobs when one would do leaving free time for good works (for example, volunteering, or improving one's own education, or training for a new career -- like teaching.)

                        Yes, I do have a problem with any misrepresentation she made. However, if having engaged in a popular legal profession previously somehow disqualifies you from being a teacher, that's also wrong and should be changed so applicants wouldn't have to lie to get a job.

                        As far as the teacher being a distraction... That's not her problem - students need to learn how not to be distracted and to get their work done. They are going to have distracting bosses, customers, personal issues and situations throughout their life - best to learn to compartmentalize appropriately as early as possible.

                        Anyway, a teacher with 'lazy eye' can be quite distracting, should we ban them also? A teacher missing a leg due to an encounter with a IED in Iraq would be somewhat distracting, should we ban them also? I had one gay teacher that was so effeminate he was distracting to some students because he didn't fit their model of what a male teacher was like, should he have been fired?

                        I would expect the teacher in this case to deal with her class maturely and have good answers for any kids who bring up her past in class (for example, when asked about her past, she could simply tell students something like "Over a person's lifetime, they often work many different jobs. I am currently a teacher and have no other jobs. Now, since I'm your teacher, please get back to working on your assignment."

                        • 8 votes
                        #16.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:52 PM EST

                        Why would they hire her? Maybe she's an awesome teacher. You worked 3 jobs to make it. She worked one job and made it. Sounds like she worked smarter than you.

                        • 10 votes
                        #16.3 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:53 PM EST

                        Why is it so horrible to have differences of opinion or in morals? Is it not okay to disagree with someone without trashing them? Typically speaking, men have less issues with porn than do women. Are you really going to insult someone who chooses not to perform sexual acts on tape? And those that don't, do you really have to look down on someone who does? These are all PERSONAL preferences and so long as it doesn't affect your life in a negative way, why are you worried about it? Sure they are making this national news, GREAT, now the entire world knows for sure just exactly who Tiffany 6 is. I'm sure that's not something she wanted every person in her life to know about and so now she has to endure the humiliation of being national smut rather than just around the area where she lives. Live and let live, we all do things that come back to haunt us, thankfully, for most of us, it never makes national news.

                          #16.4 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:22 PM EST
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                          That is the one state I thought anything goes. I am sure she will appeal and have lots of support from the nuts out there.

                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#17 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:42 PM EST

                          Sounds like discrimination, I hope she sues. If teaching doesn't work out for her maybe she can go back into acting.

                          • 11 votes
                          Reply#18 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:42 PM EST

                          i dont know if she can be effective as a teacher..... you'd beg to be spanked by her, but for an entirely different reason. that, more than her past, would be grounds for termination.

                          now, if she's teaching an online class......

                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#19 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:43 PM EST

                          California allows gay teachers but denies a person the opportunity to teach because of a past that is not illegal but based on someone's morals? What about someone who uses drugs but has been through rehab they shouldn't teach either base on this stance. Hypocrites.

                          • 16 votes
                          Reply#20 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:45 PM EST

                          Yes, sexual orientation discrimination in process. Gay male homosexuals are allowed to teach, in spite of the extraordinarily high percentage who are promiscuous in that population. Apparently it is more acceptable for a gay to have indiscriminate sex with many dozens or hundreds of strangers than a heterosexual woman.

                          • 3 votes
                          #20.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:56 PM EST

                          Paduki, you sound jealous, or maybe in denial. Be true to yourself, no more highway rest stops or airport bathrooms...

                          • 2 votes
                          #20.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:24 PM EST

                          Hmmmmmmmmm........does smell a bit like discrimination. It will be quite interesting to see if those who preach tolerance will speak out in favor of her.

                          • 2 votes
                          #20.3 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:25 PM EST

                          Question.....If a teacher sextexed a photo to somebody (boyfriend/girlfriend..husband/wife) and it wound up on the internet, would they be fired also. It wasn't meant for the internet, it just got there. They are posing in front of a camera. As did this girl. Does the money make it more "dirty"? I guess Paris Hilton will never talk in front of a camera again......oh, the shame. What's she going to do now!!!

                          • 4 votes
                          #20.4 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:10 PM EST

                          If a teacher sextexed a photo to somebody (boyfriend/girlfriend..husband/wife) and it wound up on the internet, would they be fired also.

                          Yes. Teachers have been fired over something as small as posting a pictures drinking a umbrella drink on a cruise.

                          • 3 votes
                          #20.5 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:36 PM EST

                          My husband's a teacher. We carefully monitor all photography of him, to make sure that any pictures taken are "safe." It is insane, and not right. I also remember the news about the teacher who had a glass of wine in her hand while vacationing abroad. The picture ended up on Facebook, and she got fired.

                          She sued, and she won. She still had to deal with getting fired and then the expense and time of going forward with the lawsuit.

                          Teachers are humans, too. We shouldn't have to be this careful, but we can't afford to risk his job.

                          • 6 votes
                          #20.6 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:53 PM EST

                          Teachers have been fired over something as small as posting a pictures drinking a umbrella drink on a cruise

                          I remeber a story about a teacher in Florida who was fired for posing in a bikini for a calender during the summer, after school was let out. Unbelieveable!

                          • 3 votes
                          #20.7 - Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:18 AM EST
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