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Subscribe to RSSWest Virginia motorists were urged to use caution as conditions from a winter snow storm left roadways hazardous. WVVA's Josh Frketic reports.
Parts of the Southeast were digging out Friday from a winter storm that dumped up to a foot of snow around the region and played a role in at least one death.
In central Alabama, hundreds of people spent a cold night trapped on Interstate 65 in Cullman County after snow caused a series of wrecks that snarled traffic for miles.
Hundreds of cars and 18-wheelers were at a standstill on the highway early Friday, County emergency management director Phyllis Little said.
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The backup began Thursday afternoon as a winter storm blanketed the area with as much as 4 inches of snow. Little said 120 motorists made it to a shelter in Cullman, but many more couldn't.
Officials hoped rising temperatures would thaw the snow and ice and get traffic moving sometime Friday.
In Virginia, the areas hardest hit Thursday and Friday were in the southwest, where the National Weather Service says 13 inches were reported in Giles County, while Grayson County and the Galax area received about a foot.
Road crews in that part of the state were out in force early Friday to plow and treat roads. Hardest hit was Interstate 77. The highway still had snow cover and there were reports of disabled vehicles along the roadway.
While the winter storm wasn't as severe as initially feared, icy roads remained a concern Friday morning and some school systems decided to open late.
Parts of Mississippi saw 2 to 4 inches of snow on the ground Thursday. In Lowndes County, Highway Patrol spokesman Cpl. Criss Turnipseed said Johnnie A. Matthews, 64, of West Point died when his car collided with a downed tree about 5 a.m. on Mississippi Highway 50.
Turnipseed says the large pine tree in the roadway appeared to have been uprooted by wind and ground saturation due to excessive rainfall. The winter blitz follows days of heavy rain across much of the Southeast.
No other fatalities were reported but thousands lost power.
Virginia State Police say they were swamped with calls at the height of the storm. Dispatchers fielded more than 760 calls reporting crashes and disabled vehicles.
In Bland County, Virginia, heavy snow, downed trees, disabled vehicles and numerous crashes partially closed I-77, said Virginia State Police spokeswoman Corinne Geller. Traffic was moving slowly Thursday night and Geller said officials would work through the night to reopen all lanes.
In Alabama, scores of schools, businesses and government offices as far south as metro Birmingham pushed back their opening times for Friday because of the threat of icy roads after freezing temperatures overnight.
Dusty Compton / Tuscaloosa News via AP
A vehicle that slid off Highway 86 near Carrollton, Ala. is seen Thursday.
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Six inches of snow is a storm?
In southern virginia it is. Everything will be closed for lease half a week.
Right on, Deon. In Minneapolis, where I'm from, this would not be a big deal. We have plenty of snow removal equipment and paid, trained people to help keep our roads safe and passable. In your part of the country this is unusual and it doesn't make great sense to have lots of snow removal equipment sit idle for many years.
Yes, it is, moron.
did that car really crash in that much snow ?????.....most of it fell after the crash.
Coming down the hill, around a curve. Probably thought that if they slow down to 70 mph, they would be ok.
In New Jersey it would be a national emergency! Usually the first small snow, an inch or two or three, can bring the state to an absolute standstill. Then by the end of the year, if it's a snowy one, even 20+ inch storms induce yawns.... Good luck to my countrymen down south!
In the south 6 inches is a ton of snow. I live in SC and we go years and years without a snowflake so yes that is a lot of snow. Schools around here close if there is even a strong chance of snow.
Leave it to MSN and the general media to over exaggerate. I've never been battered by snow flakes.
And 6 inches of snow in winter is NOT a storm. It is a snow shower.
It is in a state where they shut down schools when they see it in the sky.
its not the amount you get, idiot. it is the storm itself....thats why they are called storms....for thier intensity and what happens during them. not the totals after....such an assinnine comment!
Missed the beach. It pays to know how to drive. It always amazes me that states where drivers ed is mandatory, there is a concentration of people who can only drive a vehicle when the raod is dry and no wind is blowing. Drop of water hits the windshield, traffic slows by 19-20 mph. If it snows, forget about it. I drive around in it just to get a laugh.
It only takes a little snow to ice up a road.
Its climate change! Dont you guys get it! Global cooling in the winter and global warming in the summer! We are all gonna die!
What a bunch of baby's, 6 inches of snow you should enjoy it not cry about it.
Some of the ignorance in this seed is amazing. Any amount of snow and ice in a location where they aren't used to getting snow and ice is in fact a problem.
Also, snow in the south...how about that. At least climate isn't changing...
Oh, wait.
If you go off the road in the amount of snow in that picture, your best staying home when it's cloudy out too!!
Here in Northern Alabama they try to prepare by salting overpasses etc, but drivers are inexperianced in driving in snow. It quickly turned to ice which had cars piling up all over the place. Funny, they showed ONE car in a ditch, but failed to mention that a ten mile stretch of I 65 in northern Alabama was at a complete standstill for over 9 hours Thursday evening apparently with multiple wrecks. No one injured, but a lot of cold, hungry and tired people. I hear it is still slow going this morning. Clean up?
It must be a storm because The Weather Channel named it Lago, when did they start naming weather systems that are land based? We had an 1/2" of snow last night lets name that storm "Al Gore" because it was their but not with a lot of substance.
i live in new hampshire 6 inchs is a dusting. if the weatherman called for the overnite to be still and clear. it meant still snowing and clear up up your azz. i lived in ga just outside of atlanta if it snowed 3 in it was a nightmare for them. they cannot drive in snow in the south!
I am just glad that the Southeast is getting some much needed moisture!
In wyoming 6 inches of snow doesnt even cancel school very often. I have driven my old camaro through that much. But it is a different story when you only have to deal with snow every other year.
The north had a hurricane and called it a "Superstorm" and the south has a devastating 6" of snow We really are a country of whiners. But southerners truly don't know how to drive in snow and ice. Or rain or fog. In Houston, it's a toss up as to whether or not they can drive in the sunshine.
Where i live the snow started as sleet about 12:30 pm and by 7:00 pm it had left us 8 inches and the snow had stopped. The sky started clearing around 11:00 pm. No big deal.
Houston driving is a culture similar to the way new york driving and LA driving is a culture..... but snow in the south is rare and far in between so its best not to judge us because we are not used to it we wouldnt judge a northerner for trying to roll his honda through a flood (why do you think there are so many trucks down here) or a New Englander for not knowing to not drive his car during the middle of a Tornado. Foreign elemental disturbance in different ecologies interrupt the natural way of things in life and snow in the south is an example of that.
The Alabama photos----a typical Spring day in Michigan. It takes several feet of snow to slow us down.
I'm a natural born southerner but have family up north. What they, and other people from around the country fail to realize is that 6 inches is a big deal down here. Whereas states like Ohio and Minnesota get a lot of snow, they may not get the ice that comes along with it. When it rains for days and then the temperature drops below freezing, it results in dangerously invisible black ice. And, unlike northern states, we do not have tons of salt in storage waiting to be distributed by salt trucks (nor snow tires/chains for the cars). We have to redistribute dump trucks full of sand, gravel, and rock salt to even begin making the roads passable. Southerners aren't just wimps (although that's part of it)--we honestly don't have the resources to cope with winter storms, nor the experience to understand proper driving maneuvers to work with the snowy/icy elements.
eleminopee - Having worked & driven around the Gulf Coast, keep your rain, I feel safer driving in the snow & ice. Remember one year in Birmingham, 4" of snow in April, starting to melt pretty quick, the Interstate just wet by now with temps above freezing. My SUV & I just trucked along & friends that seen me called me nuts. But the torrential rain, that has scared me quite a few times.
For all you northerners complaining that we can't drive in snow... you're right.
But, to be fair, bring yourselves down here and deal with our outrageous heat and humidity. Can you spot when a road has buckled (trickier than you might think)? Do you know what a tornado sounds like? Or what those sirens mean when you hear them? Can you spot the difference between a flooded roadway and one with just a 1-inch puddle of water?
Can you deal with a bunch of A-holes on the roadway without becoming a gun-toting rage-a-holic?
I am not sure that even the lack of snow removal equipment is the biggest deal; it is the lack of experience driving in snow. If you have never driven in it much, you are not going to realize how early you need to stop, and just how much you should slow down. They also don't realize rule one: I have 40 years of driving experience in New Hampshire, and a four-wheel drive vehicle, but I STILL don't drive during a big snow storm unless I absolutely MUST.
You're right Kevin. Down here, every idiot with a car flocks to the grocery store to stock up on bread and water, then wrecks on the way there because they slam on the breaks when they hit ice, or turn against the spinout should they have one. If you don't know what you're doing, stay home!
When you aren't use to snow 6" is a huge storm. Why; when the state officials knew about this, didn't they get the sand and salt trucks out before it started snowing and cover those highways?
That is one small point I will miss when we PCS back to America from Germany. The Germans are always ready for snow and ice storms. The roads are Never a mess.
Every idiot in Pennsylvania runs out for bread, eggs, and milk with just the hint of a snowstorm, too. What is it about snowstorms that makes people want to make French Toast?
maryann that is too funny.
I am from the south and now live here in Alabama again, but live in Wyoming for awhile. Snow there is different and they are better equipped for it. While living there we experienced the worst blizzard they had in 30 years (or so we were told). It only shut them down a day. Here, that would have been a week. But here in Alabama the snow was different, plus the temperature was expected to get higher than it did. The weather channels said that it would be anywhere from 1-3 inches of snow, but should not effect travel. So everyone went to work, but then temps did not rise and it froze. People had to get home and no, we are not accustom to having to drive on ice. But guess what, I saw plenty of people in Wyoming/Colorado wreck on ice too bc there is not much you can do about it. We also experienced "thunder-snow" yesterday in some areas which produces large amounts quickly. So YES 6" is a lot for places that go years without seeing any.
Debora, the point is the South doesn't own salt trucks. It's doesn't make sense, economically, to buy and maintain trucks that may only see use once or twice a year. So they make do with what they have. They do prepare the dump trucks and tractors with whatever they can scrounge up for "salt", but the amount of trucks vs. the demand is not nearly enough to make a difference.
Haha maryann. That does sound good. I guess my "idiot" remark was more aimed at the people who can't drive in the elements but risk their lives for baked goods anyway.
Down South, people don't know how to prepare or handle winter weather like this. As others have said, they don't have the equipment for removal or pre-storm preparedness. Plus, Northerners prepare at the start of every winter by keeping supplies in their vehicle just in case they get stuck like this. It is not the Southeners fault. They just don't deal with it enough. Just like the Northerners don't know how to handle when the temps get above 90.
Mmmmm...french toast sounds really good. I hope people aren't stuck in the cold in their cars right now. That would really be miserable.
I see several took offense at my pathetic attempt at humor up above. Here in Denver, our weather forecasts usually don't gain nationwide coverage unless we're talking about a foot or more. Even southern states should be prepared for slick roads, especially on the interstates and main drags in the cities. Freezing rain is also more likely back east and down south.
I feel badly for those that were trapped and for the family of the man who died. That said, lets remember that tornadoes, floods, snow, black ice, etc; can and do happen everywhere ( well, nearly anywhere) in the continental United States. Yes, Janstince; I know what a tornado is and what the sirens sound like, just so you know. p.s. who doesnt love french toast? yummy. lol.
So with some people here six inches of snow is nothing? I bet it would be if it had be to shoveled. I'm from the northeast and I suspect that snow down there is the heavy stuff, not the fluffy stuff. Oh, and I bet they don't have the stockpiles of salt either so to salt every single mile of road.
Score another one for the brilliant NBCNews.com writers!!! Snow and ice don't "thaw", Einstein. They melt. A frozen steak thaws.
Those of you who are commenting about 6 inches of snow being a "dusting", etc...who really cares that you have several feet of snow each winter? Each section of the country has its own normal and abnormal weather events. You aren't special merely because you live in an area that gets lots of snow. Act like adults rather than 5-year-olds.
Russ - you apparently lack substance, as well. That should be "there", not the possessive pronoun "their". Ever hear the saying, "It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool rather than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt"? Ask your third grader to explain it to you.
Southern theory of snow removal: God put it there, God can take it away.
Good grief !!! WHere is my snow !!.. We used to get plenty here in Eastern part of WV, but no more. It seems like when a winter storm moves towards us, it always splits in half before it gets to us, half goes north of us, and the other half goes south of us. OR.. when the precip comes , it warms up and its just rain, and if the precip moves out, then it gets freezing cold here. Can never seem to get the two at the same time any more, really sad. Now places like Alabama, and tenessee getting tons of snow.. Its not fair :(
Winter of 1972/73, Parris Island, SC received 6"+snow and Jacksonville, NC received 30"+snow and sub-freezing weather for 10+days...
During the mid 1960s in western VA, 24"+snows were common...
Just more justification for the AGW crowd... Ha! Ha!
I can't begin to guess how many times we had 6 or more inches of snow and it didn't stop us from going to work, school or the grocery store (or skiing!). Many times I cleaned more snow then that off my car that collected while I was at work.
I remember living in Oklahoma for a couple of years back around 1994 and a friend who had moved down there from Minnesota told me to be very careful when out driving if it was only raining there in Oklahoma, when I asked why he was saying this he told me that everyone down there drives so fast that when it rained they would end up hydroplaning because they wouldn't slow down and cause wrecks!
Sure enough the first time it rained while I was down there I would see all the people who were in the ditch or in an auto wreck, what a change from living in a northern climate my whole life. It was like relearning how to drive defensively all over again because of how they all drove down there.
Now with that all being known, throw in freezing rain or even snow and it was totally insane to go out in any weather that they were not used to down there! You would be putting your life on the line by going out to the store or wherever you wanted to go.
If you don't believe me in what I tell you then I suggest you visit any area down south during a time when the weather will change quickly and see what happens for yourself. Hopefully you will be in tank because otherwise your asking for trouble and injury.
I mean no disrespect to any of the folks down south either, its just what I witnessed while I lived down there and many locals told me the same thing. Its hard for people to learn how to drive in all types of conditions when they don't experience those conditions on a normal basis.
6 inches is a storm, not a huge one but now days winter in many parts of the country is becoming more a rain event. Good news is some of these states were in drought for a while, so this might help them this summer.
12 inches of snow is equal to about 1 inch of rain. Not much to help any drought conditions.
true starbuck 12-1 ratio, however snow melts slowly increasing ground moisture. Rain however for the most part runs off. that's why around here farmers love a good snowpack.
Thanks Starbuck, I was just wondering about that and you answered my question.
Your 12 to 1 ratio is not so accurate. It depends on how much air is in the snow, which varies greatly.
okay Mr Wizard.
http://www.erh.noaa.gov/box/tables/snowfall-meltwater.html
Snow / Rain ratio chart.
We had about four inches here in east TN. It is a big deal to us because we don't have the necessary snow removal equipment, not to mention that this storm hit us after several days of torrential rains, flooding and landslides. Road conditions before the snow were already bad. Hamblen County's idea of snow removal is a man with a shovel and some rock salt.
We would love to get that much snow in Michigan. We are still in the drought from last summer and it doesn't look good for this summer either. Where I am we may have gotten 5 inches this winter and our average is 20 inches by now.
Flatlanders don't understand what snowfall means in the hills.
I know snow in the southern states caused problems, that's nothing new...."Parts of Mississippi saw 2 to 4 inches of snow on the ground Thursday. In Lowndes County, Highway Patrol spokesman Cpl. Criss Turnipseed...", but geez, sure would have liked to have seen a photo of - Cpl. Turnipseed! Really?? Now that surname is a new one on me, too funny.
6" of snow is no big thing, unless you live on the East Coast. People back east thinks the world starts and ends on the East Coast. There is one heck of a lot more snow on some of the mountains in the Cascade Range than that.
@Owner, you are correct, that is a light dusting of snow. Now if they had freezing rains then I could see everything being shut down for awhile. But 6" of snow? Gimme a break, this isn't news, it's stupidity.
You're the one who's stupid. Yes, places like Buffalo, NY gets snow measured in feet, but in the south, it's a rarity to even get an inch.
I live in Buffalo and right now it seems the south has more snow on the ground than we do. But when we do get it we are prepared to deal with it.
It doesn't happy there everyday that's why its called NEWS Duhh
Sally, I live on the East Coast..and 6" of snow isn't that much a big deal here. I don't know where you come from but anything less than 8-10" is nothing more than a nusense
It's all relative to where you are. Sally if you had to deal with 95 deg. heat for three months straight you would think I worthy of a story. In Texas that's a cool summer. Besides have you ever seen people not used to snow drive in it? Now that is scary, even in Michigan.
Speaking of stupidity. Your comment "People back east thinks the world starts and ends on the East Coast." Now that is stupidity.
We had two days straight of constant downpour leading into the snow and plumiting tempuratures yesterday. That made for lots of black ice on roads.
We certainly aren't prepared here in the south for snow. But why should we be. We have the occassional winter with one or two measurable snow storms. Beyond that, we can go years without seeing more than a few fluries during the winter. The investment by individuals to purchase snow tires or chains would be absurd. Even more absurd would be the municipalities investing in fleets of trucks to salt roads or investing in the stockpile of road salt.
I am not sure you are aware that we have had rain for the past week here in central Alabama. The temps fell rather quickly and the snow came very fast. We also had thunder snow where you have thunder and lighting with snow which equals more snow. We can go yrs without seeing snow and Alabama is very mountainess. It is a very beautiful state with the best lakes and beaches anywhere. So make fun of us for 6" of snow who cares, but when it comes to tornados and hurricanes I will put up the state of Alabama against any state with being more than prepared.
Jan 1966 Roanoke, VA received 22"+snow in one 24-hour period. The total for the month was 41.2" of snow...
It is just the youngsters that are afraid of a little snow...
6 inches my sweet backside!!! I'm in SW Virginia and there's 11"
Seeing that I am posting this 2 hours after the story was released, I'm sure they could've called a local news affiliate in my area to confirm how much snow actually DID fall.
Hate the stuff personally, but I got a free day off and so did my students. I know some are breathing a sigh of relief since there was a major essay due and I'm quite sure most of them weren't finished yet LOL.
NOTICE: If you like snow, come to where I-77 and I-81 intersect in SW Virginia, we got plenty!! Just hope the interstates are open now. As of 10pm EST both were at a stand still and had been for 4 hours due to:
--idiots who didn't check the weather forecast
--idiots who did check the weather forecast and chose to drive here anyway
--idiots who think they can drive in snow and inclement weather and ended up wrecking out
...and I can only hope that you are not an English teacher.
Zapain~That sounds like news to me. Be safe.
Idiots who post stupid comments.
I agree, I hope you're not an English teacher. Heaven forbid the next generation it you are.
Hey, major Mudd - I'll bet that I know A) the age group to which you belong, and B) where you grew up.
LOL, WTF do I teach have anything to do with my post???
I would think most people on here are trolls, but I'm quite sure they are just stupid!
And I'm not being childish, but you're just being a bunch of big doody heads ;)
NorCal via Boston,
I grew-up shoveling snow in VA, you want to compare GPA after 8+years of college, plus the additional years of technical schools?
BTY - I retired @ 48 and now live where it seldom reaches lower than 45F. I hate snow... Ha! Ha!
News media is running out of important news..!!!!!
They have not reported any of the shootings stopped by law abiding citizens across the country, they have not reported any news about what our elected officials are doing to fix the economy, they have reported nothing on any items on bringing our troops home. Oh, that's right, that news would mean that someone is actually helping people and doing thier job. Sorry I brought it up.
The south should start preparing for this! Isnt the first time in the last couple years snow has fallen. Yes, waste of an article.
The south should prepare for what? We don't get enough snow to justify spending the money to let equipment sit idol most of the time. You yam dankies don't have a brain in your head.
I have often wondered why, when New York City gets three inches of snow, it receives national coverage, but when an unusual storm in the West leaves a region without power and communication for nearly two weeks, it barely receives a mention in the local broadcast media.
John, because they do not give a crap about anyone other than themselves and that is where they live.
Flintlock-4771495 us dam yankies may not have a brain, but we can drive in 6 inches of snow even before the plows come out.
I find it interesting that the southern states are getting all this snow of late, we barely have a trace and that is unusual for us. It just now got cold, at 6 degrees this morning.
Drive safe southern neighbors, wear your seat belt, go slow, put the cell phone down and turn into the spin, slowly.
Mon,
You still don't get it do you? If we lived in an area where snow is common, then we wouldn't have trouble driving in it either. BTW, I can drive, and know how to drive in snow. I miss my VW Beetle. It was the best car ever for snow.
@flintlock:
The south isn't prepared for anything except for more money from Uncle Sam. Proven FACT each southern state gets more back then what is paid in, and the blue yankee states pay in more and get less in return. That explains the mentatility of the southern people.
With this weather change that the pukebags don't believe in, who cares how much damn snow they get, they won't be prepared for it anyway. flintlock just said so.
Chucklehead: Why would you call Jay a Moron? Moron. The guy is right. Keeping expensive snow removal euipment when it only snows every ten years is stupid. All they have to do is wait a couple of days, it warms back up and it's gone.
As a transplant 25 years ago (go Bills) down south when the news says It's Going To Snow ..... people will run to the store and load up on ......... Milk and Bread
It's the strangest thing I have ever seen ... Oh yea and plowing the streets with a Motor Grader !!!
And as for driving in it you might as well call in sick ... it's a circus !
And I only got 2'' last nite .... today it has gone to about 1/2 of ice .... Ice is the problem in the south !!
Sally Ann- You should pull your bottom lip over your head and swallow. Where do you get your information from?
Out of her Bottom
SallyAnn-4595694,
Research Texas and how much their refineries pay in taxes. Texas has led the nation in export revenue since 2002 and has the second-highest gross state product of $1.207 trillion...
Or the 27 military bases in VA, 8 military bases in NC and 15 military bases in TX. Fort Bragg NC is one of the largest and busiest of all military complexes in the world covering 251 sq. miles.
Naval Station Norfolk is the world's largest naval station, supporting 75 ships and 134 aircraft alongside 14 piers and 11 aircraft hangars. More than 3,100 ships' movements annually and over 100,000 flight operations each year. Their facilities, runways, sonar & bombing ranges cover over a thousand square miles...
Camp Lejeune NC military base occupies 246-square-miles. The land that is occupied by the Federal Government for their Military bases & ports in the south is larger than most Yankee States...
I'm sure you also counted the Military pay as money received by these southern states that support large populations of US Military personnel...
AC Robertson:
When did they start paying taxes in "tax free zones". And if they don't have tax free zones, then why is the XL pipeline they want to build going to end up at a tax free zone?
Read the fiscal reports on how much each state gets back for each dollar they send in. It explains it all, and it's not because of any military bases or ships or tanks, etc.
Also, most of the largest states are in the Western part of the US. I believe Alaska is the largest, then Texas is 2nd largest, right? Ever drive in any Eastern states where they have signs stating it's over 100 miles to the next gas station. And they mean it, because it is over 100 miles before you see civilization.
SallyAnn- I think you and I have been through this untruth before Texas gets .90 for every 1.00. We are quite capable of holding our own thank you very much.
AC- I live near Ft Hood which is the largest military post in the free world, (336sq miles) I love it here!
As far as snow I've lived in Texas for 13 years now and it's only snowed a handful of times (in the areas I've lived) our towns just shut down lol.
What's even better out here is you can drive at least 300 miles before you run across someone like SallyAnn.
We got 5 inches of snow here in Western NY overnight. I think when I went to work this morning at 5:00 that there might have been 1 road plowed on my 20 mile commute. There was not mass hysteria. Schools, businesses and the state were not closed. People just didn't drive 85 mph to get to work, and they left more than 5 mins before they had to be someplace 10 miles away. It's called common sense. When there is snow on the road, it will be slippery. SLOW DOWN AND USE CAUTION.
a 3 inch snowfall back in march 1993 closed the schools for week in charlotte, nc it took a hell of a lot more snow and wind to get out of school in Iowa !
Iowa gets enough snow to justify buying removal equipment. Where I live, it snowed once last year, and lasted 2 days. This year, it hasn't snowed at all, so far.
In Central/Southern New Mexico we are in a severe drought. We have had only a trace of snow in the lasst five years thanks to climate change. This week we got our first snow and it was just enough to make the ground partially white. Whoopee!!! the Rio Grande is like a mud puddle.
You only got 3 inches of snow during the storm that came through in 93". I was in college at Auburn University and we received 14 inches that year. It was the most I have seen in my lifetime in the south. Power Lines went down, with many stuck without power for over one week. The snow was one thing, but it would melt during the day and then freeze up at night, creating terrible black ice conditions.
We were stationed in Illinois (but lived in Iowa) a couple of years ago, I've never been so freakin cold in my entire life! It took me almost a year to thaw out when we got back to Texas lol.
Snow is a vast relief (barely an inch in the NW Ga) after torrents of rain for a week or so. Drought is almost over here in the foothills of the Appalachians but having lived in mountains of NY I find the hysteria prior to this "storm" Iago ridiculous. And when did storms get names?
SallyAnn - Are you always this bitchy?
Not really bitchy steve, just can't stand low informed people who think they know everything about nothing. But what I said is the truth, the people on the East Coast think that is the only place that matters. History shows that Nixon, when he changed the speed limit to 55 MPH, he used the East Coast as a measuring stick.
Go to Montanna, some people live 75 miles or more from a town, hospital, Dr, etc etc. The people on the east coast should realize that they are jammed together, west of the Mississippi River, people are really spread out. Some farms/ranches are thousands of acres of land. What is the largest ranch/farm in NJ?
And I'm not trying to insult anyone on the east coast either, just stating a FACT.
PMS maybe get a life and stay your a...s out of the South
sally you are a disgrace to all of us real montanaians who want nothing more than to have the governmnet keep their hands off of our smokeless tobacco and wrestle with our hogs when we's high off of tha herb. So wat if I've gots me a dirtbike? I pay fir da gas and go really fass so who are you mista obaaama to tell me wats a do wit my own herd? sally you gotta either shape yourself or git da ell outta my montayyna cause wen you gets to being all self-justified like this it makes everyone here wanna tarr and featharr you back to the east ocean where you originally crawled out of.
SallyAnn-4595694,
My mother's father owned a 1,000+acre farm in Southside VA, both livestock & crops. The nearest town/hospital was 50+miles, though we had a local Post Office & Doctor 5+miles...
I have 6+acre next to a 150+thousand acre National forest, nearest town/hospital 30+miles. Nearest neighbor 1/2+miles, which is too close, and NEW schools 5+miles in Eastern NC, on the ocean...
The Eastern US is not all like NYC or DC...
Six inches of snow, what a disaster better turn on the weather channel and have Jim Cacciatore (or whatever the name is) whip us into a frenzy, better get down to the shelter folks ! My relatives in Birmingham,AL called yesterday they went outside stood next to their car with 4-5 inches snow on it laughed and went back in. They also thought the TV folks where hoping the governor would send out the National Guard !
6" give me a break, move to North Dakota? try 6 feet. Go back to bed and enjoy your day off.
tomorrow is will be gone.
Yep! Live along the Canadian border. This morning the snow was waste deep and still comin' down; temperature below zero with gail force winds. Wife just stares through the kitchen window. Gets much worse I'll have to let her in.
@nervous wreck:
1st, ND normally does get more than 6' of snow, normally not at one time. 2nd, thanks for the laugh. Yes, you better let her in, soon!
Thanks for the laugh N W....
Nervous-LOL!
I went and visited my cousin in ND a couple of years ago, made the mistake of being there for New Years -38 degrees! yes, NEGATIVE 38 degrees, now I understand why y'all plug your vehicles in, thankfully my cousin had a heated garage as our truck doesn't have a plug in thingy. There was so much snow that my dog kept getting out of his yard just by stepping over the fence.
Y'all can keep your snow, I hope I never see it again! lol have a great weekend y'all.
lmao NW, that's funny thanks for the humor!
For those who don't live in the south, GA got hit with what could be considered a major snowstorm for them, and the city was at a standstill for several days. The south is not prepared for snowy weather like the north, since this is not a common occurence down there. So, if you haven't lived there and gone through it, don't be so quick to judge what is or isn't a lot of snow.
Amen Jersey the South is totally different
6 inches aint nuthin ... now 8 inches is ....... oh wait ... were talking bout snow aint we .....
lol willie! Between you and NervousWreck I'm going to need a new keyboard! (y'all have made me spit my coffee out twice now)
I suspect there is a lot of exaggerated "knowledge" being utilized here. We live in Union Grove, Alabama where we received 3 1/2" more or less of snow. That was not a real problem. The real problem was the ice. We still have a few areas in the county that are iced over, as county roads are not treated like city roads and state roads. We do have sand trucks, however, they are not always in use in time. I think our biggest problem is that drivers really do not know how to drive in this mess. I will tell you though, although there were a few minor accidents I witnessed on my way home yesterday, almost everyone was driving more slowly and more carefully. We don't get much snow or ice as a general rule, so, yes, I suppose some folks who experience it all the time might feel free to put us down for our reaction to it. It would be nice to feel some empathy rather than disdain. We here in the South have been graced with a storm that was not too bad after all - we got enough snow for our neighbors' boys to make a 5' snowman, and that was fun. Have a great day all and I hope you stay safe and warm.
Yes in the South it is allot of snow. In SC we have a few snow plows not like the North or other states who see allot of snow. It is uncommon for us. I lived in PA for a while also NY, and CT so I am use to it others are not. Yes slow down and be careful. Today schools where delayed 2 hours due to black ice. Guys the south is just not use to it. I wish it would have blown over a foot like it had at my son's in the NC mountain. He had over a foot this morning nice schools where out. So this weekend we will get to ski the first time this year. Yes we are running out of news MSN, but at lease this morning it is not another shooting. God Bless all and Be safe and enjoy your weekend.
tragedy aafter traggedy like this keeps happening and still some idiots refuse to change their ways which is putting millions of lives in danger every day. I hope that everyone will stay safe despite the fact that the idiot north carolina mayor yet again doesn't give a f about his people and failed to declare a state of emergency or even advise people that they need to take precautions. just earlier i saw someone going at least 80 miles per hour on an icy road probably because he was listening to the news and didn't hear any warnings so he's likke "i'll risk a speeding ticket" when really he's risking his life. and now the stores are suffering from lack of inventory and when i go to buy a waffles later they probably won't have any and then my family will have to go hungry yet again because we weren't told to take out loans and stockk up on supplies ahead of this storm. so great work yet again you morons and i just hope that no innocent people have to be murdered again becuase of the incompotence thatt we have in the friggin' office.
You have to have the government tell you that the weather is bad? Does the government also tell you when to take a piss? Let me guess....you are on welfare and expect the government to take of every aspect of your life except for breathing....Time to quit blaming everybody else, put your big girl/boy panties/pants on, and take care of things yourself.
@Karl, reminds me of a joke. --- People would stop at this old native American's place and ask how the weather would be for the next couple of days. He would tell them, and he was close, not perfect, but very close to be correct all the time.
One day he was asked for the forecast, he shrugged his shoulders, said" Ugh, don't know, radio broken."
There is a moral to the joke if anyone can figure it out.
not that it's even one percent of your business karl but I actually deal-drugs to people who the healthcare system fails and charge an extremely fair price which is why I have so many customers but is also why I don't have any of the fancy things that you money-grubbers all have. and no i don't need the government to tell me everything but when it's a public-health issue, which this is, then it's their duty as a public entity to keep people informed of the conditions. since they are failing in that duty they should be either removed or made to publicily apologize to all of the victims that get killed here due to a idiot governor and his crew of goons and punks.
Maybe you should sell more and use less.
I say ... call in sick and go play in it... Looks like fun... :)
yeah brenda only some of us don't rely on mr. obama's generosity to keep our lives going and need our income to survive so while calling out to go stick our heads into this white crap and hoping that death takes us away may be an appealing option then how would i afford to feed my twelve cats and my rent-a-birde from russian who thinks that it's the funniest thing in the world when a tax-collector comes to my door and we get into a yelling-match because i don't have his money yet again but because she can't understand a f'ing word that's being yelled she probabl;y thinks that we're doing a shakespeare play and then i need to buy her flowers and malt liquor and wtf i'm not made of money i just wishthat global warming would hurry up and melt me.
If you can't afford to take a day off, you need our fine President far more than me!
Now, back on topic. It's snowing! (which i'm SURE is Obama's fault!)
Lets burry or ex husbands in it, and see if they can find them after the storm.. :/ We can make a game out of it.. lol
don't violate the restraining order that he has against you again brenda, either hire a nieghborhood kid to do it or stay the f away because you never deservved him to begin with.
@litterhater, why did you need a russian mail order bride? Too freaking ugly and low informed that not one American girl would touch with a ten foot pole, right? Yeesh. You want to throw insults around, it works both ways dude.
uhh actaully sally I never insulted a single anyone and I did the mail-orderr craze after a bunch of research and not because of the way I look but because there were no suitable girls to marry in my town and I didn't want to waste my time courting other chicks plus i had a few stalkers becuase they were always obssessing over previous one or two night-engagements that we'd had when i used to drink and lie to women so i figured that being culturred and marrying a foreigner would fix all of my problems and for the most part it did so stop hating on it wehn the results are in my favour.
Here in NJ we've had rain and gloom for days. Today the sun is out - yahoo!!! A few days ago the weather service said we would be getting snow and I'm glad that didn't happen after all this stinkin rain. I lived in Tampa Bay FL for nine years and paid a fortune for homeowner's insurance due to hurricanes. Tampa Bay seldom has hurricane problems, but it didn't matter. Now that I live back in NJ, a forced move, I've had far more weather-related problems and my homeowner's is one quarter what I paid in FL - go figure!
OMG!!!
where is that blithering dumass AlGORE to kiss his feet and to save us all from the world evaporating?!?!?!
6 inches doesn't seem like much snow to me because I am from northern Massachusetts. However I have lived in Memphis,TN and I can tell you there is no snow removal and anything over a dusting is rare. Many people can't drive in snow because they don't have the joy of doing it for months on end. Now I live in Houston,TX Snow would bring this city to a grinding halt. Again no snow removal equipment or people with experience with winter driving. We have had cold fronts moving through Houston and it still hasn't hit below freezing. Good luck Bama!
Hell rain brings y'all to a grinding halt, Houston didn't do a very good job of planning for water run off when it rains. Concrete jungle (no offence intended as I'm a fellow Texan just an observation)
So a car slides off the roadway and sits there until it is covered in snow. Where I come from, we just drive back onto the road and go on our merry way. Why abondon your car? It's not stuck or crashed. Leaving it on the shoulder so someone else can run into it I guess.
All season radials that are probably bald. It didn't help that they were probably going 70mph coming down the hill around a curve. Bottom of the IQ pool driver.
This area has seen torrential rains for the past several days. Chances are that the ground is too soggy for the tires to grip.
Well, where you come from, no one ever gets stuck? You don't know if that car is stuck or not. Yeah, clearly, people immediately think the best thing is to abandon a car and see if someone hits it, rather than just backing up and driving away. Go figure. Or, maybe you are not the omniscient being who actually knows what went on in that photo.
driving back to Canada from Florida we got stuck in that snowstorm. Unbelievable. We've never seen anything like it. The interstate at a standstill for 4 hours, with no emergency vehicles to help or direct. We managed to plow through eventually only to come to the tunnels in Virginia and find them closed, they turned us back and we needed to take a 4 hour detour due to it. We have never in our life seen so many miles and miles of transport trucks at a standstill with smaller cars stuck in between. Obviously the Virginias are not prepared for a "small" snowstorm like this - small in Canadian terms.
So Blitzy... What part of "it seldom snows here" don't you get? These folks aren't prepared because they don't have snow removal or treatment equipment and probably or salt or much sand. How well is your part of Canada prepared for hurricanes or tornados? No chance of those right?
If you checked the weather forecast and planned ahead you might have considered what could happen in Virginia. Then chose a different route.
I rest my case...
Goodness I don't believe blitzy was trying to offend anyone, I have a very good friend in Canada and as he puts it there they have winter and three months of bad skiing.
No snow in Va Beach. The sky is crystal clear with no trace of clouds. Grew up in SC and watched this happen every year. Ice is a bigger problem. Being prepared?? have a generator because down south with an ice storm, you will lose power because the power lines are still on poles, not underground. Do not drive unless you have too and when you do slow down. It is not a real mater of being prepared for it or not being used to it. It is a matter of having an IQ higher than 20 and not going out acting a fool. Drive slow, do not hit the brakes hard, keep long distances between you and other vehicles (that way you can laugh as they spin out and not get caught in their stupidity), and give yourself plenty of time to get where you are going. And by all means, put the cell phone, bluetooth, cd holders, coffee cups, etc. down and just drive. Sorry all of this is just common sense, which this country as a whole has lost alot of over the last twenty years.
You're talking too much common sense there Gunner. People aren't used to needing that.
Be prepared? Yes. While it may not snow down south very often it DOES happen, so being prepared is always a good idea. Give yourself time to get to your destination, or simply stay home till the roads are cleared if you can.
I'm in New England and there's a local monument firm that has a sign on the main drag. "Slow down, we will wait for you".
That says it all.