Police shoot and kill an accused rapist who allegedly kidnapped and sexually assaulted a woman before she managed to escape and hide in a home where a 14-year-old boy and his 11-year-old sister sheltered her. WEYI's Jane Park reports.
It was a night of mayhem and bravery that central Michigan will not soon forget.
A young woman who was abducted at gunpoint made a daring escape Wednesday night from her rapist into a house full of kids that was later set on fire by her attacker, police said.
The suspect, identified as Eric Lee Ramsey, 30, of Mt. Pleasant, Mich., was later fatally shot by police after he got into a series of hit and runs with police vehicles in a sanitation truck he had stolen. But before he died, he apparently tweeted that he was going to be shot.
The incident began Wednesday when Ramsey allegedly kidnapped the woman from Central Michigan University's campus, and brought her to a home where he bound and sexually assaulted her, according to a statement from Isabella County Sheriff Leo Mioduszewski.
Ramsey then put the woman in the back of a car, retrieved two gas cans and began driving. He purportedly told the woman “he was going to take her life,” Mioduszewski said. After hearing that, the woman jumped out of the car and ran to a nearby home, she told police.

Michigan Department of Corrections via AP
Eric Ramsey, a Michigan Dept. of Corrections parolee, was shot and killed by police after allegedly abducting and sexually assaulting a CMU student, setting a house on fire and stealing a sanitation truck that he rammed into police vehicles.
Alone inside that Lincoln Township home were a 14-year-old boy and his 11-year-old sister and 2-year-old brother. The teenager, James Persyn III, told Mlive.com that he let the woman in, locked the door and grabbed his hunting knife.
While the woman called 911 from inside the home, the suspect “ended up pouring gasoline on the house and then lit it on fire,” and fled the scene, Mioduszewski said. One of the homeowners arrived soon after and was able to extinguish the fire.
Mioduszewski said police were given a description of the suspect’s vehicle and obtained a search warrant for the house where the sexual assault occurred.
Several hours later, a vehicle matching the description rammed a Michigan state trooper's car. The suspect fled the scene, stole a sanitation truck and then rammed another state police trooper’s car.
A short time later, a Crawford County deputy located the sanitation truck and his vehicle also was rammed by the suspect. The deputy got out of the car, ran up to the cab of the pickup and fired shots, fatally wounding Ramsey.
On Thursday, CMU Campus Police Chief Bill Yeagley told The Associated Press that the suspect told the woman that he chose her at random outside the Student Activity Center on campus. The chief said the woman saved her own life by fleeing from the car.

Colleen Harrison / AP
James Persyn III, right, 14, was in his Lincoln Township home with his 11 year-old sister and 2 year-old brother when an abducted CMU student banged on their door.
“I believe she made all the right choices,” Yeagley said. “She’s the true hero in this.”
In a statement on the CMU website, President George Ross said students, faculty and staff received texts and emails of the "horrible but isolated incident" shortly after midnight Thursday, and that the university would bolster campus security.
"Each of us needs to be prepared, to be wise, to look out for each other," Ross said. "Not only do we want you to be safe, we want you to feel safe and we will continue to work hard to maintain a safe environment."
Ramsey had been on parole since last summer after serving the minimum five-year prison sentence for assault with the intent to do great bodily harm, according to the Michigan State Department of Corrections.
“The parole board generally doesn’t give a rationale for why or why they don’t parole (an inmate),” Russ Marlan, a Corrections Department spokesman told the AP. “I looked at his behavior in prison. He was pretty good. He had six misconducts over five years. That’s a small amount. He was in minimum security the entire time.”
Ramsey had a job, regularly met with his parole officer and had tested negative for drugs, Marlan said.
His record also included convictions for destruction of police or fire property, resisting police and assault with a dangerous weapon.
The case remains under investigation by the Isabella County Sheriff’s Department and the Central Michigan University Police Department and the Michigan State Police.


Good job. No "insanity defense" for that scumbag, and no tax dollars keeping him alive for years in prison.
Exactly. I hope all cops can learn from this, and when they get a hold of a serial rapist/killer. They should just shoot and be done with one more insane fruit loop. And this should happen all around the world. Its the only way to get rid of them. Why keep them sheltered ?? So they can be let go in too society, so they can do it again. Fuuugh No. Kill these fricken losers.Way to go kid. You are one good brave soul. We need more peeps like you. Job well done.
If you're going to judge a book by it's cover, then this guy...... well, you know...
Oh man.....I love to hear a story where a young kid does everything he was taught. It could have turned out worse considering the perp had a gun and could have broke into the house. Whew!!!
Thank God (expression for some of you) she's OK. I am also glad for her that he's dead because if caught alive, she'd know he's alive and while in jail would be thinking and talking about what he'd done to her. Fk'n POS man.
At least she can have "some" closure knowing he's dead. You know, a little relief....
Best part for the consumer is, we/they don't have to pay for trials, public defenders and the three square meals, cable TV and a roof over his head for the rest of his life.
Now, if the same outcome could happen to "ALL" criminals, we'd all have enough $ to buy a second house........
Personally, I am extremely happy that one less subhuman piece of excrement is now walking this earth. Shooting this perp was the only viable solution, and he will no longer be able to victimize others. After he gets buried in potters field, they should dig him up and riddle him with bullets some more, until there is nothing larger than a dime left. Then set the debris on fire, shovel up the ashes afterward, and pour them into the intake of a sewage plant. That would be complete justice. As one of my favorite songs says, "I hope he dies twenty times more!". Yay, police!!! Excellent shooting! Hope you emptied two or three magazines into this piece of garbage.
Great outcome but the headline is misleading. It sounds like Crocodile Dundee whipped out a machete in the woods and he actually got his pocket knife behind closed doors. Still nice job kid to let her in, get your .45 next time and shoot through the door to save a fire.......
Too bad he didnt suffer.
Why? Because article 3, section 2 of the CONSTITUTION says you get a trial. I know... I know... Americans only care about the second amendment.
IXLR8, Oh yeah! Give a 14 year old access to a gun. Granted this 14 year may actually be the exception, but the biggest part of the problem with school shootings is the fact that parents don't lock up their guns as they should because they think they taught their kids responsible gun ownership. -- A kid may know how to drive at 14. Parents may even take the kid out to drive at 14 in isolated areas, but no way should the parents make car keys & car available for the kids to use at their teenage discretion. Same thing should apply to guns.
sam adams
Why? Because article 3, section 2 of the CONSTITUTION says you get a trial. I know... I know... Americans only care about the second amendment.
Sam,
"DEAD" no trial no jail term and tax payers save $. Too bad the constitution is for good people only.
This is the way I like it regardless of your point.
Nobody gives a @!$%# about article 3 section 2 when it comes to people like this guy. BTW, love my guns....
Is that your real pic?!
sam adams - You only get that trial when you surrender. When you try to run down the police with a truck you get bullets instead. Seeing how he was out on parole for another violent crime I think it was all around good ending.
If the boy had a gun, the rapist maggot would have been dead a lot sooner, saving the state lots of money in damaged property. I kept my guns locked but told my kids to break the glass door of my gun cabinet if they were ever in danger.
"Isn't" for good people only...............my bad....
Sam Adams -- I think most of us believe in trials, but this guy already had his days in court and punishment for more than one violent crime. Apparently he learned nothing in those 5 years.
Ramming 3 cop cars proved he wasn't about to give up. Sounds like shooting him was right and justified. People wouldn't celebrate his death if there hadn't been so many cases where repeat violent offenders are still getting light sentences, and often suing the police, city or state regarding their injuries during apprehension. I too am glad this is a "closed case".
Our society should not condone police being judge, jury and executioner (they have in the past gotten the wrong person). Of course if a person is stupid enough to attack the police the police should then effeciently take them out.
Creek dog - I would take exception to your first post. I suspect the 14 year old was not taught to open the door to a stranger. Personally I love it when a 14 year old shows good judgment and does the right thing - which is exactly what this kid did - he saw a person in trouble, I doubt he knew for sure who was the threat, but he reacted instinctively and saved her life.
The 14-year-old deserves a reward! He took a huge chance that could have ended up costing him his life. I also commend the young woman for saving herself. I wish all stories of this type ended up with an ending like this.
Yep. It's a good thing the kid didn't also have a gun. the perp would never have gotten to cream 2 police cars (about $80,000 in damages). so let's figure out if the new gun laws would have prevented this perp from getting a gun. Nice try.....
Had the woman been carrying her own weapon (as she SHOULD be able to do) a 14 year old wouldn't have been involved, and the perp may have been just as dead.
Stories with happy endings sure are great! Perp is killed, victim gets free, and young boy helps save day. Good job to this kid and I hope the victim is able to get the help she needs to get thru this ordeal. As for the POS that attacked the women, a plastic bag and trip to the local dump should work, no need to waste space or time on burying him. Or I suppose donate to a medical school, probably even easier and don't have to let a good practice specimen go to waste.
Holly - you are spot on with your first part and he did attack the police but this wasn't his first run in with the law, simply put this man was a failure at life and his permanate removal from society is for the better of us all. The officer did the right thing this time.
It is time
Ron, the criminal rammed THREE police cars and also damaged the stolen sanitation truck. He set fire to the house with four people inside, three kids and the kidnapping/rape victim. I know you are being sacrcastic, but this kid took a huge chance letting the victim in and surely could have used a firearm. I congratulate the officer who put society out of the misery of this piece of garbage...
FYI, the police are trained to shoot to kill, not wound or maim. They are also trained not to shoot for the sake of shooting. Given the fact pattern of this incident and the background of the criminal, the police were well justified in taking his life.
Yes, taxpayers were saved the cost of a trial, etc.; however, that is merely a bonus in this case. Seems rather obvious had this man simply been arrested, he would have perpetrated these crimes over and over again.
Too bad the 14 yr. old is not given more credit. That woman probably would have been killed by the criminal if the young man did not let her in the house.
I would not wish for that young hero to have to deal with the psychological consequences of taking another human life, even if for excellent reason. Far better for that burden to fall onto a police officer, who has been trained to handle it.
In this case the suspect, if the reporting is correct, resisted arrest, and attacked the cop with a potentially lethal weapon (a car). The use of lethal force in this situation I think is fully justified. If he had surrendered peacefully without resistance then yeah, I would not want police officers to be capping suspects execution-style.
She was kidnapped at gunpoint and sexually assaulted. So unfortunately I don't think she's "OK", and if there really is a God worth praying to this kind of thing should never happen in the first place. But it is good that she is alive.
""He had six misconducts over five years. That’s a small amount." Not when you consider that the reason he was incarcerated in the first place was that he committed assualt "with the intent to do great bodily harm," not to mention his other convictions. It appears the Parole Boards in this country are in need of rehabilitation, not prisoners of this monster's ilk. He should have received another five years.
That kid deserves a medal. He did what many adults refuse to do and he helped someone in need despite the risk. He saved that woman's life and that makes this young man is a hero. As for the rapist, he got what he deserved. . . a bullet (or three). That bullet spared the people of Michigan ALOT of money; for his lawyer, his court expenses, his expenses for his ultimately short time in prison, his therapy in prison, then the pay for parole board and parole officer and finally it will spare other women getting raped and murdered by this man since there is NO CURE for a sexual sadist and as we all know they WILL release more sexual sadists and pedophiles even though there is NO CURE for that type of person.
Amphetamines..another speed junky burnout..wait for the autopsy..( methhead )
@Basil Romeo
Thank you for making the point I was about to make! You left out one important component, however! That would be our courts, who should be ashamed of themselves for giving pitifully short sentences to repeat violent offenders! At least some judge won't let him off easy this time!
Basil Romeo, you said it! The way that parole boards determine whether a person should be let out needs to be changed. Too many times, prisoners learn how to "work the system", either from their own past experience, or from listening to other prisoners. Too often, violent, repeat offenders are let out because "they found G-d". Don't get me wrong, there are a few that actually do change their ways, but more often than not, they eventually go back to their old ways and the cycle continues.
They just better be glad he didn't kick the door in. The boy had the right idea but having a knife in a gun fight usually don't work out to well. At least he was gonna try.
amphiox
Sooooooo, what's your point?!
Besides playing "This is what I think about your post" police.....
Okicize Wicasa Yata Pi
I would think that the perp may have thought that adults were home and maybe that's why he didn't try to enter.
Hey, I'm all for freedom and all of the things in the bill of rights, I like guns, and think banning assault rifles is stupid.
But, holy cow, dudes. Everyone deserves a trial, including this guy--if hadn't been so stupid to have exempted himself of it.
His stupid mistake was ramming police cars with a truck. That behavior is a free ticket to whatever is "next."
Or if he had of had a gun, he could have been nervous or scared enough that he shot and missed, the drugged up rapist, broken in got the gun and killed them all plus some police, etc. Come on people we just don't know. The young man did exhib courage and wisdom.
@Hollykb: I do see what you are saying. I think the police were trying to make a point though.
I don't know exact statistics, but it's something like this:
Get in the car: 99% chance of death
Run: 50% chance the perp will actually shoot. If he does shoot, maybe a 50% chance of getting a hit. Of that 50%, most gunshots aren't actually fatal. (Just an aside: running in a unpredictable zig-zag pattern makes oneself an almost impossible target to hit with a handgun)
So, Run = ~10% chance of death
I think that is why, the police chief was saying she lived because she ran. Even if the kid hadn't opened the door, if she went tearing off down the street she probably still would have escaped.
If she were my wife or daughter, i would take her to the local gun shop and shooting range to fit her with a Glock..There is no therapy like the power of life or death in your hands..
The first amendment gives you fredom of speech; doesnt mean you can't be silent
The second gives you the right to bear arms, doesn't say you have to.
Yes, he has (had) the right to a trial...he chose to pass on that right.
", and if there really is a God worth praying to this kind of thing should never happen in the first place."
Idk what kind of god you assume but if there is a God im glad he's not like ur expectations. Id rather believe in a God that supports free-will... I guess your god forces people to pray, believe, and only be moral. Id proly kill myself, well, if ur god allowed it. It's strange how if people don't agree with a Christian God, Allah, or whatever a text pre-defines the divine as being, they assume they cant believe in some type of God.
Jim, the only problem is most college campuses are gun-free for incidents like VA TEch; and what's to say this man wouldn't have disarmed her by force before taking her hostage.
I'm a Democrat, but not a liberal bleeding heart. I suspect it is because of some bleeding heart defense lawyer that felt the guy had redeemable value that got Mr. Ramsey the short sentence. Mr. Ramsey played the cool reformed part until released on parole (shouldn't ever have happened). As for the young lady who was abducted and sexually attacked, I hope she can forgive the scumbag and go back to college and live a happy life.
@OldDog47: Agreed! "At least some judge won't let him off easy this time!" -- I hope.
@Mercury: Well said.
Great! She got "lucky" at the end........... Just that........... Fifty Americans are murdered everyday......... And, not all by guns....000000000000000000000000
p.s. I assume if she is now pregnant. The 'good' right-wingers conservatives will insist she should accept "the gift" and bear this lunatic's child...........unless of course her inner bio-chem had a defense mechanism
i think it is a wonderful thing that there is still people in this world who care more for others than themselves, espically children. one less piece of dirt for taxpayers to pay for. i would want someone or any one for that matter to help me
annasc5 Off topic changing to gun control. Sam Adams, usual Troll and will be promoting gun purchases on a different thread if it can enrage. LOL, have a great weekend everyone.......
This is why as a Democrat I support gun ownership, sometimes people may get lucky but really how often, imagine if this POS got into that house Do you really think he would have been able to protect those he wanted to, I doubt that, only a GUN would have saved them. Great Kid, brave as hell.
farmall48, while I support decent, law-abiding Americans carrying guns, we don't know that if she were armed that this "would not have happened." In some cases, the criminal takes the gun from the gun owner and uses it against him or her, because the gun owner hesitated, or was taken by surprise, from behind, etc. He had a gun, too; if he had pointed it at her, would she have been able to draw her own in time?
I'm not trying to be a PITA, but am just asking what I think are relevant questions regarding gun ownership. People have different reaction times; I know that I hesitate in many circumstances, preferring to confirm my impressions, so carrying a gun might not help me, for example.
So, I'm wondering about the idea suggesting the kid should have had a gun. I thinking that if the kid had a gun and fired on the rapist, the rapist would have returned fire. That outcome could have been disastrous.
Perhaps a better approach would be to avoid confrontation, gather up the children and woman, go to a room at the end of a dead end hallway, and when the guy came down the hallway, as a last resort, put a couple of rounds in him. See I like the idea of escalating only when absolutely necessary to avoid a firefight and putting yourself in the best possible situation, and having a limited fire zone. It’s hard to hit somebody with a handgun, but with a shotgun, you can pretty much fill the hallway...probably won't kill him, but you'd ruin his day.
Another approach would be when he comes in the front door, sneak out the back. One small problem with that approach is that it was in the low teens that night...a little cold for the children.
Good thing Mr.Obama is putting his new gun laws into effect, That woman would never have gotten kidnapped if that man hadn't been able to legally obtain the gun (cause we all know all criminals get their guns legally). Course I don't think a 14 year old boy should have a knife, He might kill someone!!! Nope, I think we should start regulating knife sales so that criminals don't have knives and if it stops a youth from obtaining one, more power to it! Common sense knife laws would do this country a wonder! And the gasoline, he could have blown the house up! Gasoline is way too dangerous to sell openly. I think you should be registered before you can buy gas and that there should be a limit on how much gas you can buy at one time. It's just the smart thing to do.
What a kid...just 14 years old. When called upon, he rose to the occasion. I hope this young man is rewarded for his bravery.
conservatelybiased,
We're fortunate that, in your case, brains are limited because if they weren't you might come up with something intelligible. There are all kinds of limitations on your freedom...wake up.
Oh, and by the way, all you gun lovers, we had a saying in the Army...this is my rifle, this is my gun, this is for fighting, this is for fun. What does that say about gun lovers...like to play with your gun?
Good Job officer!!!!!!!!
A hunting knife?!!! That sounds scary...are we sure a 14 yr. old should be in the possession of such a dangerous weapon? I don't know about you, but that scares me worst than a rapist/would-be-killer on the loose. Love is the answer. Just love one another!
Old man, heard this? These are my dentures, these are my gums, one is for eating and one if for fun The gums are for when the lights go out, be nice to Larry tonight........
This woman was so brave to attempt to get away from her attacker. The boy was so courageous to open his door to help the woman. I am so glad the kids were not harmed, the woman's life was spared and the criminal was stopped with lethal force. An excellent ending to a nightmare. He brought death on himself.
Wow, so happy this one ended well - and the officer killing the POS, is the best possible way this could have ended.
It's guys like this that cause women like me to be weary of all strange men who approach me, even if their intentions are the most innocent in the world like asking "what time is it" or "do you know where such and such is".
I don't hate men, I just fear some of them...and rightfully so.
I can't believe how goofy some of these comments are. I am hoping that some are being facetious. Others...I don't know. What bothers me most is the snide off-hand comments by those who think they are being cute by making political statements using lies and false assumptions about those they don't agree with. Usually, it all comes from the folks who have no problem lying...we all know who they are because throughout history that ideology has always lied in order to manipulate and mislead the people. I just can't believe how much it is happening here nowadays.
I'm also glad the thing is dead. Some humans simply need to be exterminated and it was one of them. It should've been liquidated before it harmed this woman and threatened these brave children who protected her.
Some human beings are not persons deserving of human rights and respect - they are vial, disgusting things and should, no, must be terminated.
Just Wrong.......
FYI, the police are trained to shoot to kill, not wound or maim. They are also trained not to shoot for the sake of shooting. Given the fact pattern of this incident and the background of the criminal, the police were well justified in taking his life
Law Enforcement Officers are trained to shoot "center of mass," to stop a threat, that would cause injury or death to themselves or others. You had part of it right, WE are not trained to injure or maim.
In this case, the officer did "stop" the threat because the perp did display the ability to destroy LEO's and or innocent civilians. Good call to the officer.
IXLR8,
Hadn't heard that one.
One other thing, just an observation, so many posters here are interested in ensuring their 2nd Amendment Rights, which I support, but then they are happy to see another's rights terminated. I agree that the system does not work all of the time. (or even most of the time)..I wouldn't argue otherwise, but judge, jury and executioner in one swoop. I don't know. Doesn't seem like something to celebrate.
In this case, the rapist didn't give the Police any choice. The rapist basically forced the police to shoot him. Here, it is a moot point. But the case isn't closed, some officer(s) pulled the trigger, I'm wondering if he thinks about it at night wondering when the next time will come when he will be forced to kill. I think in general police officers join the force to help people not to kill them. Some parent, brother, sister lost a loved one. The 14 year old boy, while a hero, and the woman who was truely victimized and assalted in a terrible way. won't forget soon.
I work in a Christian Prison Ministry...some of the guys have committed terrible crimes. The recidivism rate among the general prison population (according to my recollection) is about 75%. The recidivism rate among inmates who have gone through Chuck Colson's program (IFI) and Kairos is about 16%. So, the Christian program cuts the return rate by 84%. To those of you who believe in Christ, I say, Never doubt the redemptive power of Christ.
My wife and I went to CMU in Mt Pleasant...
@conservativelybiased14: I think your sarcastic response has much merit. It is interesting that while the criminal had a hand gun, he decided gasoline would be an even more powerful weapon.
He also probably didn't kick the door in, for fear of getting shot by the people inside. (As of 1/18/2013 civilian ownership of firearms is still legal). Thus he launched his attack on the outside the home and fled.
Great job young man! However, this might not have ended as well if the idiot rapist had just kicked the door in. Even if the hero boy, 14, had a hunting knife the idiot rapist might have had a physical advantage and could possibly have taken it away from him. One reason I suspect the rapist did NOT kick the door in was that he surmised somebody in the house MIGHT have a gun and he didn't. And, if the rapist DID have a gun and had kicked the door in, well, a different outcome would now be the case. Never take a knife to a gunfight. So, I calculate if there was some sort of gun ban, the rapist would have felt safe and WOULD have kicked the door in.
This 14 year old boy is a real man. This is what being a man is all about. Not some cowardly rapist POS who happens to be an adult male. God bless this kid and his family. He's a brave soul and I'm very proud of him.
Old Man, you rock if you do Prison Ministry. Thanks for your service. John 8:36
Ban Gas Cans!
Will anyone be surprised if Diane Feinstein tries to introduce legislation to ban hunting knives next?
“I looked at his behavior in prison. He was pretty good. He had six misconducts over five years. That’s a small amount. He was in minimum security the entire time.”
Six misconducts???? That was not enough to keep him in there? What would it have taken to keep his @ss behind bars and why does law enforcement always wait until someone gets hurt before doing the right thing? Shouldn't they be out there being PROactive instead of REactive when it comes to criminals?!?!
Gridlock ~~~ Don't you think that is HER choice, NOT YOUR's!!!
I think you feel differently if your wife, daughter, or sister had been one his victims. Maybe you would understand how the victim feels knowing her assailant is still around somewhere. Also you do notice the comment you replied to is about serial rapists/killers?
Kinda reminds me of my ex, who was violent and whom I had to escape, who kept telling me he could kill me if he wanted, and he would just go to prison for a few years (no death penalty in the State where I used to live).
Yes a real phuken angel he was. Maybe the parole boards should be held accountable and explain their reason to the public before letting vermin out on the street again. This guy had 5 incidents while behind bars. That should have resulted in time added to his original sentence.
Well at least that loser is dead now good riddence!!!
The guy was just doing what a couple of the pukebag politicians were saying it was OK to do. They think raping women is OK, so he did also, right?
What politician said it was ok to rape women? I don't remember hearing that. Can you provide a quote?
SallyAnn, I'm as liberal as they come, but you're making liberals look bad. No politician has said rape is OK, even the Todd Akins of this country.
Sallyann, you are truly an idiot, that is all.
The terms "legitimate rape" and "God's will" says it all...
no ok per se, but most definitely a "gift from god" if he impregnated her...
Maybe you are just confused with the latest rant from the right. Rush thinks that abortions should be performed with a gun.
Sam,
I gotta 45 for sale.....Interested?! Let me know. Other people are also inquiring
WE (liberals or moderates) should not go down the same path as the right wing. By confalting those horrific statements it is the same type of hyperbole as they spewed.
Amazing how Sam's pic coincides with his posts....
GA CD
Seems Sam's nose grows longer with each post he makes!
I tend to believe that kids are good for the most part. It's just that the news only highlights the bad eggs.
This kid is great. His parents should be very proud of him.
Congrats to you James. You're a fine young man.
3ric <<<~~~~~~~>>> Except that Todd Akin has admitted his words were awkward and came out wrong, not as he had intended. In any case, he has apologized. When are you going to apologize for trying to keep it going even after he has publicly eaten the humble pie.
First of all, good job kid, well done. Second why was this pos out of jail anyway. We sure have a people problem, nut cases all over.
And again, good job kid!
Don't you see? This is the problem. He was in jail for one "assault with intent to do great bodily harm." How long is a state supposed to keep someone behind bars, feed them, clothe them, give them everything they need? How does the state determine who will and will not be a repeat offender? Who will go straight and lead a good life? Who will do worse things when they get out?
Human beings are messy, complicated creatures.
Want more? Go to the philly dot com website to see the video of the multiple times arrested criminal attack a young woman and ultimately throw her onto the subway tracks. Too many criminals are getting too many chances to prey on society...
@StandUpJokeOff
How about when their crime is not the first of it's type for them! The guy had been convicted of a serious assault at least twice!
This happened in my back yard. It worked out for this Kid this time. But I am not sure I would have wanted my kid to put my other kids in that danger. This crazy guy witch had a gun, Could have just as easy broke the door down and killed them all. Hell he tried to burn the house down. This could have turned out much different. I comment the young man for his bravery, but he was wrong to put his younger siblings in danger. This happened just a few doors down from My Daughters house. I am glad it turned out the way it did. I just ask the question as a father of 8. If that were my 15 YO Daughter and she was home alone and something like that happened, Well her safety is first in my mind. At 15 she don't need to put her life on the line to help someone else. That is for grownups. We could have just as easy been reading about a crazy man that killed a woman and 4 kids that tried to help her. I am glad that didn't happen. Where did another Crazy man get his Gun????? Gun show maybe, or stolen maybe?
chuck - I understand your point, but do not agree with it. Too many citizen's feel like you do and are too willing to turn their head away. This has created a situation where criminals will commit crime in public, during the day, and without impedance. Criminals know that we have turned into a society of victims, which is why crime is on the rise.
He probably got the gun off the street, they are cheaper and easier to obtain then at a show. You truly are naive. That is the problem with what is happening today on this so called gun control. Criminals don't follow laws!! Making more laws doesn't change ANYTHING!!!!
I will always teach my children to help others when they are in need. And I'm glad that this family did too.
The thing is, with gun control there would be less guns on the street for the bad guys to steal. The thing is, all the gun nuts have gone crazy and purchased an arsenal perhaps bigger than their police force has and I just wonder how many of those same guns will be used in commission of a crime somewhere down the line. I support the ownership of standard rifles, shotguns, and pistols but just don't believe every tom, dick, and harry needs assault rifles.
Why was this violent, repeat offender paroled in the first place? I've known non-violent offenders who received more time for possession of pot. Sure, pot's illegal, but it's time we got our priorities straight when it comes to sentencing. Damn.
You're right Lordraven. The only thing evil needs to gain a foothold in our communities is for good people to do nothing. This boy is a hero--at 14 he is already a shining example of what a real man is like.
Parole system is a mess. We imprison drug offenders and yet let horrible repeat violent offenders run the streets. We arrest prostitutes and allow repeat violent offenders to victimize more innocent people. Kudos to that quick thinking boy and to the woman herself who took the opportunity to escape. All the good people did the right thing. Thank You to the police for getting rid of this miscreant once and for all. Now, how about removing violent offfenders from society before they can do this much damage?
A rapist and and arsonist. A scum bag who multitasks.
Car thief, too. I don't see where the article mentioned that the woman was originally kidnapped during a car-jacking of her own vehicle, but that's what our local news has reported. He stole a "sanitation" vehicle, too--a garbage truck???
Essie222 my local news witch covers the era where this happened said, He kidnapped her outside of building at CMU. He took her to some house and Rapped her then put her in a car and drove north, with 2 cans of gas. Now maybe that was her car. But it sounds like he was going to kill her and burn her body. I didn't see it was a carjacking. But it might have been. We will find out more. The rush to get the story makes for bad information.
chuck-2111043. He "rapped her?" Well, yeah, I can see where rapping somebody when you make them listen to it is also a horrible crime! The only thing good about that sort of NOISE is the background music/ rhythm which does have a good beat. Now, if they could only take out the vocals, well they really aren't vocals, just some idiot talking and talking stupidly at that.
Making someone listen to the rapping music is not a good thing.
The title of this story is misleading. It makes it sound as if the boy 14, defended this women from the attacker, when in reality he really had nothing to with the attacker fleeing the home. Not to say the boy wasn't brave, or wouldn't have defended her if the intruder came in the home. But misleading none the less.
This headline sells more papers though! Duh. Anyway, the boy is a hero also - I know a lot of people who wouldn't let a stranger in their house. His instincts were on track this time.
The knife makes for a splashy headline, but the biggest thing the kid did was opening the door for a stranger in distress. Not everyone will do that anymore.
There had to be some sort of interaction between the woman and teenager. Do you think teenagers are just going to open the door for strange women asking to come in? And the Rapist had to come banging on the door or something. Who knows (because the reporting sucks) if there was interaction between the kid & the rapist. At the very least there must have been an exchange of words. That was a brave kid! He had to protect his siblings (2 year old brother at that) and still felt obliged to defend/protect/shelter the strange woman. Most people would choose not to open the door or in any way get involved. And then for a parent to come home and find out what happened...they must be so proud of him but at the same time might wanted to give him a noogie for opening the door. That was a tough choice that kid made!!!
Are you fracking stupid? The 14 year old child thought quickly - acted correctly and did what he had to do to protect his woman.
Did you NOT read the part where the killer was banging on the door trying to get in - not being able to he set the house on fire?
If the boy had not acted accordingly - she would not be with us today!
This 14 year old boy deserves a lot of credit! And this woman owes this young boy her life.
Great job. Parents should be proud of this child.
No arguement the 14 yo saved her life. If I were his mother I would be proud as all get out that he did what he did, he used great judgment in what had to be a snap judgment situation. But I would be pissed as all get out that he opened the door to a stranger. Kid home alone with younger siblings - I suspect his parents had driven him crazy over time reminding him never to open the door to a stranger. But again the kid quickly assesed the situation and saved that young ladies life.
WHat I find sad about the article is that the college police chief noted that the oung lady saved her life by escaping and called her the hero of the story WRONG the hero of the story is the kid.
They both exhibited heroic actions under extreme duress. The woman had been abducted and raped at gunpoint, the teen risked his life and his younger siblings by opening the door. She had enough courage to risk being shot when she ran away from him. There were enough risks to all involved, including the officers on the wrong end of the stolen truck driven by the criminal. It took the efforts of many to put down this animal...good shooting, after all...
I would hope the parents of this young man don't allow anyone to make this kid out a hero. Its the wrong Message. I mean he was brave, but as a parent I wouldn't have wanted him to put the whole family in danger like that, witch is what he did. They all could have been killed.
Current thought in the public sector is that running away is always the answer. NEVER fight back. Running makes you a hero. Fighting back makes you a criminal.
People wonder why the 14 year old opened the door to a stranger. I imagine the woman was disheveled, and crying, and possibly even missing some clothing.
There were probably several clues for the kid that this was a person in distress, and not a psycho chick trying to do a home invasion.
The OP is right about the title being misleading. They didn't say the boy was any less of a hero, which some of you read into that for some reason. The OP just pointed out that the boy didn't use a knife in a physical confrontation like the headline implied. Some of you are so quick to use mean spirited attacks because you can't accept an objective observation.
I am not sure the article describes the boys actions one way or the other. I would suspect that the rapist, knowing the victim went through the front door, probably worked the front door over a bit before returning to get gas cans.
A boy that age would have been pretty brave to hold his ground in this sort of position (no warning or clear idea of what was going on). A lesser person might have run or turned out the victim to save his own skin. Instead he was preparing himself for a fight - which meant he at the very minimum had "man'd up" in my mind.
If he did more than that, even more kudos are due. If my son acts as well in that scenario, I will consider myself a good father.
Chuck, a Hero is someone who knows the danger, but does it anyway.
This kid shows all the makings of a Hero in my book.
The kid did the right thing and he's a hero in my book. Certainly it must have been obvious the woman was in distress, or else he wouldn't have opened the door, he followed his instinct, and he did good. I understand the parents who don't like the idea that he opened the door, they care more about their kids then anyone else, but on the other hand there is no way I would have yelled at my son for doing something like that, I would have been proud of him for doing the right thing, what any human being should have done, not let a person get killed at his doorstep.
Remember Trayvon Martin and Georges Zimmerman? one of them was yelling (I don't want to argue about which one was yelling), asking for help, but no one wanted to get involved, no one helped, everybody called the cops and waited, and one person died.
Yes the world is a dangerous place, but if you can't help your fellow citizens I don't see what the point is anymore, that's why we live in society, we are supposed to help each other.
Anna.
You are so right. Somebody better care.
This is where I went to school...
addressing a few statements here.............
the headline here is misleading because the woman had unfortunately already been raped and the child actually saved her from possible death by giving her shelter. He then armed himself with a knife just in case the man got into the house.
The local news also states that the woman had her body somewhat bound and taped still when she arrived at the home where the children were because it mentions the kids helping her get it off while hiding in the bathroom. The boy when answering the door could probably see that, and it was mentioned that he did see the car pulling up into the yard driven by the criminal. In that case I believe it was obvious she was in trouble and kudos to him.
Lastly, his father had left to pick up his fiance from work, was gone maybe 20 min tops. While the woman called 911, the boy called his father. Luckily he was out because had he also been in the house, it may not have been apparent the house was on fire until it was too late.
thankfully the woman had no further damage done to her physically and hopefully she will heal from what was done in time, thankful that the kids and everyone else who did no harm are ok. And that the trooper can heal from taking a life.
Really brave actions by everyone concerned, except of course the pervert.
Glad he's dead, and that we don't have to listen to attorneys explaining how he was not really at fault.
A teen without a gun stops an armed criminal from harming a woman. NRA respond please.
You obviously didn't read the article, the teen without the gun locked the door to the house and got out his knife, just in case. Perp sets house on fire, hits several police and trooper cars, is SHOT and died of fatal wounds.
cameron ford...U dumb Fk!
If the bad guy had decided to kick down the door, the hunting knife wouldn't have done anything. A grown man can take a knife away from a child without much difficulty.
annon...You are just repeating what Cameron said, you realize that right?
A lot of people (gun-totters) are going to say that had the kid had a gun, the rapist wouldn't have caused as much damage. But then it would be criminal for the parents to have given a 14 year old access to a gun. A kid, without a gun was brave enough to face this horrendous circumstance. Most adults and especially most gun-totters, only feel brave when behind a gun.
I'm not NRA. However...Michigan CURRENT LAW says, 1) "No rifle, shotgun or handgun may be sold to a minor under 18 years of age, a convicted felon, or a person under indictment," 2) "To purchase a handgun from either a dealer or private individual, the buyer must obtain a license to purchase from the chief of police if the buyer lives in a city, or the county sheriff if he lives in an area without an organized police department," 3) "The buyer must be 18 years of age, a U.S. citizen, a resident of Michigan, have no felony conviction, have never been adjudged insane (unless later restored by court order), and score 70 percent on a basic pistol safety review questionnaire," 4) "Every person within the state who owns or obtains a handgun, in any manner, must present the handgun to either the city chief of police or the county sheriff of the locality where he resides," and the list goes on and on, to include a ban of carrying any weapon at schools (where the abduction took place). This scumbag broke every one of these laws, and several more, JUST TO GET THE WEAPON, to say nothing of the kidnapping, rape, attempted murder, etc. So, pleeeeeeeeze explain how more laws will suddenly make him see the light and turn away from a life of crime?
You nitwit.
This is a great example of people helping others, especially when such a young teen voluntarily got involved. And it appears as if he was also baby sitting his younger siblings. That's even riskier. We are here to help each other, it is one of our primary duties as humans. This case has a happy ending, and I'm glad to hear that. (Except for that poor woman who will suffer for a very long time from the horrors of being assaulted).
Lame try Cameron, and EPIC FAIL. Now, go read the article again, and make an attempt to understand it.
In the story about someone pushing a victim onto the subway tracks, a bunch of commentators said something about the state of African American males. I wonder where they are now for this story?
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/18/16580464-attacker-throws-victim-onto-subway-tracks-in-philadelphia?lite
Doesn't fit their stereotype, so they can't handle it. All the cognitive dissonance would deafen them.
There is good and bad in all races.
Did I miss something where is race even pertinenet to this story?
It wasn't important to the story I linked to either, but someone brought it up there. I'm just making a point. Hope you're ok with that and if not I hope you find a way to deal with it.
BLS is just a bigot using anonymity to broadcast his negative views about African-Americans in a public forum. A simple mind can only think in absolutes. Like Tony said, every race has good and bad.
JPJohnson, You are completely wrong about the point BLS is making. He is calling out the racists who do not seem to be posting that ALL YOUNG WHITE MALES are the problem, as they seem to blame all African American young males on the other story...
If he really wanted to be a hero, he should have gone outside and stabbed that piece of $hit like Anthony Perkins in Psycho.
Seriously? He's a 14 y.o. boy with his sister and baby brother in the house and you want him to confront an ex-con. He was heroic by letting the woman in the home and protecting his family.
Ok, so if this ex-con had broken down the door and ran after the kid, what would you have him do then? Stand by and hold the knife and threaten the guy until the cops came?
tony, ever heard the expression bringing a knife to a gun fight? there's a reason for it. your second comment is about as intelligent as the first. you don't go looking for trouble but you prepare for it. if the guy had come in the kid would have had to and should defend himself but that's no reason to go looking for the fight.
Well, the story said the ex-con abducted the woman at gunpoint, so I'd assume he had a gun.
I don't back down from a fight, I'd kill this fool just because he brought trouble to my door.
Tonyj77, you're either a kid with no common sense or a retarded adult.
Hey TonyJ77 - You are an IDIOT. The pervert had a gun. A knife is not much of a chance against a gun. Do you think before you act? Guess not.
Tony would put on his superman cape and...well.... the rest is HIS story!
You all can call me names if it makes you feel better. Doesn't speak much to your intelligence level to resort to childish name calling.
poor tony...nobody will believe his fantasy....awwwwwww. The 14 year old version of Tony would likely hold the door closed to protect himself while the rape victim is banging on the other side and begging him to open it...The kid in the story is a hero!...Tony?...not so much
James, do you know me? I bet you would have offered up your sibling to the killer if he came barging through your door, just so you could save your sorry ass.
Well, this is detereorating fast. Let me interject something here. I honestly think that the term 'fight or flight' is a misnomer. I know for certain from past experience there is no flight in my personality. I don't have enough sense to be afraid. I immediately get po'ed and get ready to fight. It chould be that Tony is the same way. I don't know him, but can't say he would run.
If you want to be a Hero, you arn't one.
Real heros save others without worrying about their social status for doing so.
Whoever said I wanted to be a hero? I just know that if I had been in this kid's shoes that I would have saved the girl's life and protected my siblings. My family and their safety comes first, everything else is irrelevant.
Tony - Talk is cheap.
No one really knows what they will do in a situation like this until it is staring them in the face.
Uh, that, in fact is EXACTLY what the kid did. So Tony, what, exactly is the point of ANY of your posts?
Tony, the attacker had a gun. The kid on the other side of the door had a knife,,and a younger brother and sister to protect. He had much more to lose. He did the right thing.
I don't understand the headline...what does the hunting knife have to do with this? The headline makes it sound like the boy used it on the perp. He didn't. He locked the door and grabbed a hunting knife, then his house was set on fire. Or did I miss something?
The kid was brave, don't get me wrong, but the knife was of no consequence, other than the boy thought of it and was prepared to use it.
The headline detail of the story is that she decided to not accept her fate and escaped.
Obviously they had no idea what they bad guy was going to do next and probably expected him to try and get in, that's common sense. The boy grabbed the knife to try and protect them, he was brave. Of course it would have been better to have had a gun available and knowledge of how to use it.
Yes the girl decided to not be a victim, very brave also.
Davis-C, A teenager should NEVER have access to a gun. So, now gun-totters not only want to arm teachers (who MAY be child molesters or abusers) they want to arm baby-sitters too??? Nutcases.
anaasc, save your irrelevant ranting for criminals. They're not going to EVER say, "I'm going out to rape a coed and set her on fire but I won't take a gun--that's ILLEGAL."
Moron.
Guns... the cure for common cold and common sense, or the lack thereof
@anaasc5
Says who? When I was 14 I had a .22 and a shotgun. Never shot anyone with either! I was still a teenager when the federal government issued me a gun, and allowed me to carry it around loaded! Sounds like you're the nutcase to me!
I have a dear friend who is alive today because his 15 year old had access to a gun and knew how to use it. My friend walked in on someone who had broken into his house and the man started stabbing my friend. He was stabbed 22 times. The only thing that made the intruder stop was the teenager went to his father's bedroom, brought his gun out and shot and killed the intruder in their kitchen. Did he have nightmares? Yes. But what kind of nightmares would he have had had he watched his father die and done nothing. You state your opinion as though it is fact. It is not.
To say teenagers should never have access to a gun is naive. In Michigan, many kids grow up hunting. When I was in high school most of they boys were out of class on opening day of deer season. My husband grew up not far from where this happened and he hunted all the time. The kid in this story has likely used a gun for hunting. 14 is not that young. I'd bet there are guns in that house, but the parents are responsible enough to keep them locked up when they're not around to supervise. I'm very glad for this young woman that the boy showed good judgement and allowed her into the house.
anaasc5
Davis-C, A teenager should NEVER have access to a gun. So, now gun-totters not only want to arm teachers (who MAY be child molesters or abusers) they want to arm baby-sitters too??? Nutcases.
I'm sorry to interject here BUT, I so disagree with your statement. I am 40 years old, I've been around guns my entire life. When left alone my dad said, you know where the gun is, use it if you need it, don't touch it if you don't. To this day, if I'm house sitting I get the same speach. I have 3 kids of my own, 2 boys and a girl. They know how to shoot a gun and when to shoot it. They know where they are and how to get to them. They have had training and many hours of practice using each one. When they go psycho, I'll let ya know. I haven't YET :) Your stereo-typing is really in need of a tune up!
So many grammatical errors in this story. Seriously MSNBC, hire somebody to proof-read this crap!
They alleged did not edit the article.
Sorry but they outsourced editing and you know how expensive spelling/grammer checkers are.
Yea, probably to a country that doesn't speak English. That's not said in the least offensive way either to countries that don't speak English, I'm sure they wouldn't want their periodicals edited by someone who doesn't speak or write the language well enough to represent their native language. At any rate the articles only seem to get worse where grammar should be concerned.
funny, two of the comments in this sub section about grammar and spelling have problems in them. maybe we shouldn't be so hypocritical?
is it possible? internet news editor chooses not to edit for purpose of (1) first to publicate, (2) maintain authenticity of "outsource" news, and lastly (3) maximize time to enjoy a sneakers bar (chocolate candy) at the office byway of outsourcing for news?
anyway, nice to read good outcome of news. Letting a stranger in with intend to help could end up bad. The level of chaos of having a lunatic outside trying to burn down the house using gasoline as fire accelerant is too much chaos.
The 'issue' of grammar & spelling seems to always come up in the 'comments' section following every story I read. It could just be a f@#ked up computer they're working on. I run into problems all the time on MY laptop. Certain letters will NOT show up....even though I know I hit the correct key. Then I have to constantly go back & proof-read what I just typed.......I'll see all sorts of missing stuff. CAPS where there should be none....or NO caps where they are required. On the subject of the kid. GOOD JOB! However, I have also heard of cases where criminals will intentionally send a screaming female to someone's door.......to bait the occupent into opening up. That's when the rest of the gang comes running in.
@cameron - You did read where the criminal set fire to the home with gasoline, and had already planned to burn the woman at another location before she escaped, didn't you? Just another type of weapon used by a criminal but not one politician has stepped up to ban gasoline.
Are you advocating that everyone should carry around gasoline at all times in case they have to use it against other people carrying around gasoline?
No, just that people carry around guns to stop people who try to use illegaly obtained guns, gasoline or vehicles, or anything else as a weapon to harm them, their family, or others...you know common f-king sense. The gun laws didn't stop this guy and they won't stop others...the only thing that will limit this kind of behavior is...tougher jail sentences, putting crazy people back in institutions instead of on the street with pills they can choose not to take, and an armed population. Gun control laws are fine the way they are except for the gun free zone parts.
What stopped the whole thing? Thats right: A GUN
A cop's gun, not a random citizen
Well I think if you'd been in that house you'd have been very much wishing you had a gun.
That's right, he could have killed others in his rampage. Maybe even been the next nut-job murderer....
Without the threat of the knife, would the guy have kicked down the door, rapped the woman & killed everyone in the fire he planned to set?
The only thing that STOPS an evil man is a good man.... in this case, young man
ryan-28...you could have yell at him, you are breaking the law stop stop and then called the police, and bled out waiting..DA
This guy was halted by a kid with a knife and a cop with a gun.
I expect the boy, and the girl, would have been very happy had their been an AR15 with a 30 round mag available to them in that house to defend themselves against that nut. And I bet that boys family and girl will be at a local gun store soon getting themselves a weapon or two.
...seriously...very happy...strange words to use...very happy. Random neighborhood...girl-victim was able to break free and apparently ran for A house. The young man did a great job....let the victim in, locked the door, got a hunting knife (we don't know if this family had a gun in the house) and stood his ground. Victim called 911.
Armchair quarterbacking...easy to say it worked out ok. Now, place that AR15 with a 30 round mag in this young man's hands and you have an entirely different story with no idea how it would end. Young man did a great job - evidently kept his wits about him. Parents should be proud. Enough said. Am sorry for all involved. While we will never know, a gun would not have prevented the entire event from happening.
And then the NRA wonders why rational people call Gun-totters paranoid, crazy, & idiots. Oh Yeah, arm all teenage babysitters with AR15's. So rational and safe, idiots.
Most of the cops shot by CRIMINALS have a high capacity gun and are trained to use it but having a gun does not guarantee your( or a cop's) safety.
Mono, thats because society has become so restrictive to people (including cops) protecting themselves...and so focused on criminals rights...when you are commiting a crime with a weapon and are evading capture, a cop shouldn't have to wait until a criminal shoots one of them before putting him down. Also the cop's Ar-15's are locked in the car, I bet is they carried their weapons and were allowed to shoot armed suspects to begin with, there would be alot fewed police deaths and alot fewer murders, rapes, and other violent crimes out there.
anaasnc =
Who are all these firearm owners who walk with an unsteady gait? Perhaps they have an inner ear issue?
Look up the term "totter."
@anaanc: weren't you the one just saying that teachers shouldn't be armed because they could possibly be child molesters? Who is really paranoid here?
Why was this guy paroled? Why a minimum 5 year sentence? How long was he in jail? Where was his parole officer? Did he even report to his parole officer?
So many questions so little answers.
All your questions were answered in the story.
Yep, he was plplaying authorities just waiting his chance to do wrong again.
Why is there even such a thing as "Parole", let the dreggs serve out their entire sentence! That's what they got, that's what they should be made to pull. Parole, Parole Boards are a bad joke...
Actually, North Carolina does just that. You serve the minimum of your sentence at the very least, no time off for good behavior or early parole, NC doesn't have parole.
While I dont disagree with letting people serve out their full sentances - I am not sure I can afford the taxes to pay for the prisons. Prsion guards make good money, we do have to feed the inmates, provide them better health care than the working poor, etc. ANd then the conservatives dont ant to pay any taxes so how will it work.
Also if a person serves his entire sentance say for robbery, when he is released the state has no control over him as they would if he was out on parole.
I'm very proud of James he should really feel good that he helped save this young
women's life. Why give that creep anymore attention... Is there a way that we can donate
some money to help his family with the fire damage?
"Parole" is French meaning "word" which meant that a convict gave his word not to commit crimes again and set free. Totally useless today. They need to change it to something else.
annon -
THE NORTH CAROLINA POST-RELEASE SUPERVISON and PAROLE Commission will be surprised to hear this.
Hollykb, The prolem with the judicial system is that prisoners now days have more rights and protections than civilians do. Most prisons now have A/C. Cable TV, recreation areas, alot outsource laundry and food now...hell, if you are in prison and kill another prisoner you get the death penalty in the state of Texas, automajically...yet someone can kill someone, get out in 10 years, kill someone else, get ou in 20 years, kill someone else...the judicial system is messed up an until that gets fixed, there should be no talk of taking away peoples rights to defend themselves, But on the cost of prisons. They should have bare minimums...heat but no A/C...everything the prisoners need should come from the prison, meals, laundry, it should be a self sustaining comunity, grow their own food and livestock, ect ect. If they want better food and clothing, then they will work harder, if not they can suffer, They should at minimum be supporting themselves in prison if not giving back by building roads and other things society can use (you know like they used to do 50+ years ago), but we deemed that a violation to their rights? WHAT RIGHTS? we deemed their votes are worht less in the political process, but god help us if we think they should do work and pay for their existence instead of living for free.
Caesar Augustus...where did you learn French? Parole does not mean word.
"Also if a person serves his entire sentance say for robbery, when he is released the state has no control over him as they would if he was out on parole."
Sorry Hollykb, it looks like they don't have any now...I totally agree with Legalize, put the bastards to work and make 'em really pay back society...
Legalize, I agree with your comments 100%, sadly, I think there are way too many bleeding heart liberal defense lawyers that believe their client did no wrong and should not be given life with no parole. I think, as in the case being discussed, the defense lawyer should be forced to house the parolee for at least 10 years (if he/she lives that long, lol).
Someone, don't remember who, mentioned the closing of mental institutions and letting the mentally disturbed out on streets and they are probably 99% correct. There might be that 1% who got moved to another institution but with laxer rules.
ECF, Caesar Augustus is correct. "Parole" comes from French meaning "word" or "speech." It meant to give word of honor the prisoner would not escape.
Shoot him again?
yes and eat his heart mwahahahahahah im a phsyco
Hurry up and ban all dump trucks, gasoline cans, and unleaded gas! The bad guys are using a new "tools" to inflcit carnage across America. Diane Fienstien where are you! Please protect me!
The kid did what he could do, let the woman inside, grabbed a weapon & STOOD his ground. Wonder why the would-be rapist didn't kick the door down? Probably had something to do with the KNIFE waiting for him on the other side of the door, don't you think?
Good job young man, YOU are what makes America proud
Steve... he wasn't a WHOULD BE... he WAS... didn't you even read?
Also, the kid grabbed the knife AFTER he locked the door.. The perp didn't have a clue to who was home.
The kid was really brave. No doubt about it. But I think the perv lit the fire rather than break in, because he was intent on burning someone. Maybe not because the kid had a knife. Glad he didn't have time to wait around with that gun while the house kept burning.
Also glad the girl escaped. Authorities say you should never go along with the perp hoping they will leave after the assault. You yell, fight and try to get away. Once they have you alone and away from public areas, you're dead.
Oh, let me get this right, he has multiple convictions for violent behaviour, and, he gets paroled after serving 5 years?
As a deterrant, the state that paroles a felon, should require that felon to live next door to one of those who voted to parole him, or, live near to the judge that gave him a wimpy sentence.
ya, if you think thats bad go to LA, 3 strikes your out, why didnt that work again?
we have the highest prison per capita by far in the world
this lack of understanding about how much it costs , 40-50 k per year, not including the loss of say 20-30 k if the prisoner was remotley useful in society
the reason we have crime is lack of morals, whether it be religious or farmboy or single black father in boys in the hood, these crimes have a root, they dont care if they live or die because they are mad that the american dream is not for them, because they get ruined by racism, poverty, but mostly just white people that buy houses where they cant live
keep spinning your wheels of incompetence
I commend this young man for many things, but the thing that stands out the most is the fact that he recognized this woman needed help and allowed her into his house. How many times have we seen where strangers are turned away begging for help? He undoubtedly saved her life, and he showed extraordinary courage that most of us would like to think we'd show if we were in that same position. And kudos to the police for finishing the job.
Agree. Some folks have wondered why the 14 year old opened the door to a stranger. I imagine the woman was disheveled, and crying, and possibly even missing some clothing.
There were probably several clues for the kid that this was a person in distress, and not a psycho chick trying to do a home invasion.
Yes, she did save herself by fleeing, and good for her for having the presence of mind to do so. However, it takes great courage for a 14 year old boy to be instantly prepared to defend her against an adult male in a killing rage, too. Had he not been willing to open the door to her, which took a huge amount of courage in itself, this story would have had a very different ending, I think.
Yes, the title was badly worded, but I honestly think this young man deserves some recognition as well and simply saying, "Well, she saved herself" also doesn't tell the entire story. It was, from all indications, a combination of both her actions and the actions of the 14 year old that saved her life.
...hit the nail on the head.
Key work here is "parollee," Sex offenders of all kinds are not able to be rehabilitated. Life in prison or execution is the only cure. How many have to be victims before we get this! The parole officer says,"“I looked at his behavior in prison. He was pretty good...." Gee let's see. A sexual deviat is surrounded by a group of other convicts that do not generally care for sexual offenders of any kind. I bet he was a good boy.
Just allow me to respond to a few of the stupid remarks made in this, puck, story;
Ramsey had been on parole since last summer after serving the minimum five-year prison sentence for assault with the intent to do great bodily harm, according to the Michigan State Department of Corrections.
“The parole board generally doesn’t give a rationale for why or why they don’t parole (an inmate),” Russ Marlan, a Corrections Department spokesman told the AP. “I looked at his behavior in prison. He was pretty good. He had six misconducts over five years. That’s a small amount. He was in minimum security the entire time.”
six misconducts...misconducts WTF does that mean?? that is at least one a year...move on
Ramsey had a job, regularly met with his parole officer and had tested negative for drugs, Marlan said.
Bullsht!!!
His record also included convictions for destruction of police or fire property, resisting police and assault with a dangerous weapon.
Oh just that also...is that not a misconduct or two????
Ban the parole board! and those that caused this hold them accountable!
The best way to cut spending in this country is to cut what is spent on prisinors by 70%
Turn their cells into crash compactors!
Yourmomdid -
Yeah, we need more tightly-compacted crashes.
they will alll be animals then
and prison are owned by republicans that need that money to buy elections
The Central Michigan University should offer the kids who gave the victim shelter full scholarships when they graduate high school. They're a credit to the community, and should be a major source of pride for their parents. Congratulations to everyone who was able to walk away from this alive, and good job, officer, for making sure the perp wasn't one of them.