CLEVELAND, Ohio - Humane society members wearing protective masks removed nearly 300 animals including pigeons, chickens and rabbits from an Ohio man's reeking house this week.
Most of the animals are expected to survive including some that were sick, Sheila Marquis, an officer with the Humane Society of Dayton, Ohio, told Reuters on Saturday.
Workers on Thursday took away 60 pigeons, chickens and roosters from the house in Huber Heights, a suburb of Dayton. They returned the following day for 223 animals including 100 pigeons and 30 rabbits.
The sheer number of pigeons, which can carry airborne diseases, created a health hazard inside the house, Marquis said.
Authorities were tipped off by complaints about a stench coming from the property.
The animals' owner, who has not been identified, was very cooperative and knowledgeable about the birds, which included homing pigeons, Marquis said.
She said she thinks he just got overwhelmed taking care of so many animals.
"He told us he took some animals from other people and other pigeon organizations. That's how the cycle happens. He kept getting more birds and building more cages," Marquis said.
The man will be allowed to keep two dogs and some cats living in the house.
There was no word on whether he will be charged with animal neglect or abuse, a misdemeanor for the first offense in Ohio. Huber Heights has a ban on farm animals but does not limit the number of pets residents can own.
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Sounds a lot like my house, except I don't live in Ohio & I don't have any animals.
Does anyone know if animal hoarding, or hoarding in general, was added to the DSM - V?
It must be a frustrating disorder to both experience and to treat.
I did a research paper on animal hoarding for Psychology last semester. Hoarding Disorder is supposed to be added to the DSM-V that is due to be published this spring. Unfortunately there is no national database of case studies or standard of treatment for this disorder and recidivism is almost 100% without extensive therapy.
There is a house in Jacksonville Florida reportedly running a Cockroach Farm with many hundreds of Cockroaches. Who can a person call to report this neighbor and his hoarding. Who knows how many of these poor Cockroaches will survive the day. Maybe we should start a collection to Save the Cockroach.
This guy is no doubt a bird brain, or one that flew over the Cuckoo's nest.
Animal Hoarding is often accompanied by Dementia and/or Depression (clinically diagnosed) in those over 50. Alzheimer's drugs have some effect.
Suppose the only real problem I see is that depending on neighborhood, proximity to others, social activities... there could've been or maybe was spread of disease. Otherwise, although some birds reported sick, this is a mental, psychological disorder and though I may get flack for this, it wasn't dogs and cats, moreso pigeons, chickens, other fowl.
For whatever reason, he seems to have displaced passion for pigeons, especially as noted, and also may be quite the loner. Hoarding is serious, and hard for most to understand; how can any let it get so far out of hand? There are definately problems that need addressed but face it.... dude ain't so far gone as the other fellow in Ohio that released lions and tigers and bears then shooting himself.... oh my!
You buffoons make me laugh. You sound as if you are these psychological intellectuals. You aren't. You seem to think that you have no psychological problems. I have news for you. Reading your posts, you do. That condescending this man is obviously so and so makes me laugh at you blatherskites. 5 minutes talking to any of you and I could find at least 3 emotional and psychological issues you have. Have any of you imbeciles stopped to think that having all these animals maybe was not this man's intention, but he simply did not have the heart to leave them out in the streets to fend for themselves? Have you thought that he just didn't have the heart to say no when someone brought an animal for him to to look after? I doubt it. If any of you ever become, or are psychologists, or psychiatrists, it's clear to see why this country is in the mess it is currently in, you jackasses. If you want to see a person with mental problems, look in the mirror if your abnormally deformed ego will allow you to do that.
@Fre-2427257
If name calling was a mental illness you would certainly qualify. Gosh, how sad to be you and not be able to write a paragraph without resorting to such childish behavior. And BTW, "condescending this man" is not English.
I agree, JPRhedd #1.8. Poster Fre has nothing worthwhile to offer, so he goes on a foolish rant resorting to name calling of people he doesn't know, in addition to disparaging innocent donkeys. He would not, however, be willing to say these things face to face. Thus, in addition to being a crude individual with a garbage mouth, he is a coward.
Year--1951---We raised white rabbits--to kill them --they were clubbed---the hides were nailed onto the out house wall to dry--WILD rabbits--the so called swamp rabbit you could not eat ---had wolves--a two inch worm--the cotten tail rabbit you could eat--WHY---I do not know----But in 1951--there were not illegals running loose ---Hardee--County--Florida
Appallingly inhumane behavior, in my opinion. May the rabbits some day take their revenge.
MOZZIE-600--But we had to eat--no food stamps--the soft shell turtle --lived in lakes -ditches-the water table was higher in -----1951----- you waded ----used a pitch fork to gig them thru the back--feeling in the water with the sharp end of the fork-also got many eggs--the same way with squirell--shot with a rifle--the best part of a squirrel is the brain- after the squirrel is boiled--the brain can be sucked out of the skull--also many would bleed a chicken while the chicken was alive--hanging the chicken on a clothes line untill the chicken expired--all the blood coming out thru the mouth of the chicken--I wold never do that--but now we have immigrants from Haiti keeping animals in the trunks of cars untill they perfor their rituials--all approved by a US Federal Judge--Dade County--Florida
But, nothing. It was not necessary to torture and eat animals. No justification for that behavior. There is all the protein a person needs in vegetarian food. Legumes, nuts, seeds, garbanzo beans, kidney beans, lentils, lima beans, navy beans, soybeans, split peas, barley, brown rice, buckwheat, millet, oatmeal, quinoa, rye, wheat germ, wheat, wild rice, artichokes, beets, broccoli, brussels sprouts, cabbage, cauliflower, cucumbers, eggplant, green peas, green pepper, kale, lettuce, mushroom, mustard green, onions, potatoes, spinach, tomatoes, turnip greens, watercress, yams, zucchini, apple, banana, cantaloupe, grape, grapefruit, honeydew melon, orange, papaya, peach, pear, pineapple, strawberry, tangerine, watermelon, almonds, cashews, filberts, hemp seeds, peanuts, pumpkin seeds, sesame seeds, sunflower seeds, walnuts.
All these foods have more than enough protein required for humans.
kk3971 - what is the theorized cause for the disorder?
Why do people assume since he had that many animals he's a hoarder? Sounds like to me he just got overwhelmed.
And sorry Mozzie. But I'll happily kill an animal and eat it. It's called hunting. You can eat all the beans you want.
Humanity didn't crawl it's way up the food chain to eat salad.
As self-assessed, non-imbecile, one might expect fre to know that.
He also seems unaware of the concept of a paragraph.
But compared to him we are all imbeciles and psychological misfits... so he says.
Come on, Mozzie, you are brighter than that. The behavior related by Alan Fischer, has been part and parcel of human culture since the stone age.
A diet such as you describe may in fact be healthier than one laden with red meat, but I have no moral qualms about eating a steak, or meat rendered from almost any non-threatened species.
BTW: even a totally vegetarian society kills animals, by expanding into their habitat and monopolizing land use. To live and survive is to limit and take the lives of other living things.
MOZZIE-600--Remember we are talking about 1951--Never heard of some of these things you are talking about--I was raised on Mullet and Macorani--whatever we could raise in the garden--we built out of blocks--we hauled the sand from a gravel bar -----Peace River---made a wooden mold --made the blocks--no walls in our house--had a out house for a bath room--shower was outside in the pump room--no water heater--made my money by raing orange trees --by 16- I had one thousand fruit trees for sale--all on lemon root stock--my Aunt--Polk County raised cattle---but the SCREW WORM FLY ended that-but I do understand about the chickens and other animals--as I am a ---Gopoher Tortise---tracker for Volusia-County Florida--Long live the South and our Southern Heritage--in memory of the Civil War of 1861-1865 when the North invaded the south to kill and burn
Alan Fischer---- do you----- know how to write a coherent sentence ---- and communicate like an educated person ---- but maybe not --- being a swamp rat from 1951 Florida ---- who thinks the North attacked the South ---- in the Civil War that was started by the South ---- bombing Fort Sumter ---- in 1861 ---- you probably regret the end of slavery --- like a mentally challenged cretin---- babbling about screw worm flies --- and wild rabbits---- go chase after your "Gopoher Tortise" whatever the hell those are---- ????
Rah, Rah humanity! For its cunningness to rise to the top of the food chain by trampling on the right to live of other beings who share the planet. We are supposed to be evolving, not regressing as a species. Philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer said, "Man has made living on the earth a hell for animals." I have more compassion for other beings than you do; but it's probably not your fault. It's that we were raised differently, I suppose.
Your argument is specious. (Boy, do I not want to get into this; but I will.) It’s the amount of land required to raise cattle versus raising crops that is the problem with your statement. Raising animals for food requires far more land than growing crops. The reason is that animals eat a lot more food than they provide as meat. It takes 16 pounds of grain and 2,500-5,200 gallons of water to make one pound of beef. That's 94% more land and 94% more pesticides than is required to grow crops. Livestock eat 70% of all the grain we produce. Animal farming wastes huge amounts of land. The point is that a vegetarian diet requires far, far less land and other resources than carnivorous eating habits do.
We must put the needs of the planet over our own needs if we are to survive as a species. If we grow a great deal more grain than we have to, that means we're not merely using more land, we're also using tremendous amounts more of (ever diminishing supplies of) fresh water, energy and pesticides. Thus, extra energy use means we're creating more pollution and greenhouse gases. The fact that we put far more grain into livestock than they return as meat is at the heart of why animal agriculture is so bad for the planet.
Yes, mozzie, your point about relative amounts of land needed to raise cattle vs grain crops is very true, and irrelevant to the point you raised, and to which I responded:
If your reason for promoting vegetarianism is moral, that it is wrong to "torture and eat animals", then how much more amoral is it to deny them habitat to live, eat and breed, condemning some to starvation and eventual extinction.
Whether an acre is planted with corn for cattle-feed, or wheat, to feed humans, it is still land unavailable as a food source to rodents, wild pigs, deer, fox, wolves, bears, other wild species.
Cattle breeding, as an example, may be a grossly inefficient means of raising food, but if the human race continues to double in population every 30 years, it matters little. At some point virtually all of the earth's resources will be absorbed by human needs, at which point you will only see wild animals in the zoo, or in zoological books on extinct species. If the human population levels off in the near future, or even declines slightly, then the raising of animals for meat will continue to be sustainable.
But neither scenario makes the killing and eating of animals amoral or evil, not unless you believe that every predatory species from spiders to sharks are intrinsically evil. Man, by his physiology and his culture is an omnivore, and we have been eating a varied diet of grains, fruit, vegetables and meat since at least the paleolithic era [old stone age].
If you choose to view all these past generations of human beings as aberrant criminals, you are, or course, welcome to do so. But I do not.
Humane society members wearing protective masks removed nearly 300 animals including pigeons, chickens and rabbits from an Ohio man's reeking house this week.
They took the animals and left the human in the reeking house....hmmmm - odd behavior.
I"m highly compassionate. I haven't eaten my cats.
However, I do believe in hunting for food. I don't give a damn what others do, eat all the fruits you want kiddo, but don't demand someone else stops eating meat cause you want to act superior.
But have you woked your dog?
CaerRaven----Hunt for what--plenty of stores to buy meat---Publix--Winn Dixie--Dollar General Market and many more stores--why slaughter animals while hunting--Hunting for food is a big myth--some hunters get their kicks by killing some innocent animal--SAD SAD
I don't hunt, Alan Fischer, but I see no moral issue with hunting wild animals, unless they are endangered. How is it less moral to shoot a deer with a 30.06 rifle, than to buy a steak at the supermarket, which is effectively the same as hiring somebody to kill and butcher a cow for your benefit.
At least the deer had half a chance.
You people Do realize, that without hunting our deer, elk, etc populations would just explode, right? Without hunting disease and such would run rampant and we would be forced to deal with all those diseases they can potentially carry, hopping over to our farm stock like our cattle, horses and such? Thanks to humanity nearly wiping out most predators such as mountain lions, wolves and coyotes in some regions we would be literally up to our arses in deer and elk.
That and well, personally I'd rather have someone in my family know how to hunt just in case someday those supermarkets aren't able to provide those tasty cows for us. It's cheaper to buy an elk tag and bring home meat that way than it is to buy 5lbs of hamburger a grocery trip.
mozzie-600 I still eat meat. But I sympathize with you. I cannot contribute much above what you are stating in this vine. However, if you do not know about Planet Raw, search it to find out about some of the best vegetarian food in the world
CaerRaven, before modern armaments, do you really think that enough hunters existed on the face of the Earth to control the huge populations of animals that existed. Or, just for one example, were the millions of buffalo crowded into the North American pre-railroad plains riddled with disease?
Wow, I can't believe what I'm reading!
Alan's experiences in 1951 remind me of the slave who was forced to eat whatever food her master threw at her, so that she could eat (and survive). Back then, slaves ate every part of the animal (e.g., intestines, head, tails, feet) because they didn't know if (or when) they'd receive their next meal. The same occurs in other cultures today. (Ever been to China, Mozzie-600? Africa? Europe?)
As a vegetarian, I'm offended at Mozzie-600's comments. While I share his basic principles re vegetarianism, I cannot share in his arrogance. Mozzie-600's unbeseeming comments show how uncultured he is, and how he really has no clue about the world around him. Mozzie-600 should get out more.
Thanks for the tip and your kind words. I just had dinner, but would do it all over again if I was at the Planet Raw restaurant. What a great place. I recently discovered WaterCourse in Denver. Just terrific.
To dman, Verry and CaerRaven: It's not worth my time, nor do I have the energy or the desire, to argue with you guys, so I'll just wish you a nice day.
If you choose to be offended, that's your problem. My comments are not arrogant; I just stated facts. Your interpretation is solely your own.
Unlike you, I won't make the assumption that you are arrogant since I don't know you; but you certainly are rude.
No, he's right, you're coming off like an arrogant ass demanding others to stop eating meat. That's arrogant and just rude on your part.
I agree. Interspersed with some very valid facts, such as the practical suitibility of vegetarian nutrition are some rather arrogantly voiced, and, frankly somewhat unrealistic opinions:
Says who, and in what direction should we be evolving?
That's a pretty haughty self-assessment regarding oneself, coupled with a rather dimissive attitude towards those who do not feel as you do. I wonder what you do when you see a mosquito on your arm, or find carpenter ants in your house.
Are you compassionate to those beings too?
Evidence of an arrogant attitude? Perhaps myopic might be a better adjective.
Wonder no longer. Not that it's any of your business, but your assumption that death is in store for these creatures who come to be in my presence is erroneous. They are allowed to live. There is nothing unusual about that in this household.
It is your arm and your house.
They are encouraged to go outside, and they do.
Need any help?
Assuming you are not referring to either you arm or your house, I would just observe that carpenter ants do not leave a structure of their own accord, nor do mosquitoes refrain from biting while outside, and that insects "encouraged to go outside" in winter, generally die of exposure. But out of sight, out of mind, huh?
I'm still searching for some sustainable logic in your argument, that the killing of animals to sustain life is somehow avoidable or intrinsically evil.
At this point I think Mozzie is a mentally ill troll.
CaerRaven: Nobody cares what you think. You are contributing nothing to this conversation, so bug off.
Where I live, we don't have insects in winter.
I'll bite. It's totally avoidable. It's not only avoidable, it's completely unnecessary. I have been vegetarian for most of my life, and am not only still alive, but thriving nicely. According to the Eastern philosophers, there is neither good nor bad, there just is. Therefore, there is no "evil". "Evil" is a manmade concept.
As I previously pointed out to you, whether you are a vegetarian, or a meat eater, the resources used to sustain you are resources which are not available to other living things. Your survival demands that other living creatures be unable to live. The difference is only a question of degree.
Then why to you carry on so about "Appallingly inhumane behavior" and bewail that others "torture and eat animals"?? The concepts of humane and inhumane behavior, or of torture are also man-made concepts.
I doubt it. I live in New England, and even in the coldest of winters, insects do survive and they do find their way into one's house, as does the occasional field mouse, and if you put them outside they are going to die, just as certainly as if you set the heal of your boot on them and crushed them flat.
BTW: It really is not for you to say that "Nobody cares" what CaerRaven thinks. You don't speak for me, or, I suspect for any of the other 7-plus billion people on this planet.
hhhmmmm... Why would anybody apply that label to you?
In Breckenridge, Colorado, 9,600 ft. above sea level, you'd be hard pressed to find any mosquitoes or ants in winter. Ask anybody.
I've tried to be polite, but you don't believe anything I say; and I've really lost interest in this conversation. Bye now! ;)
...and you step aside from questions, and vault over uncomfortable facts with the agility of an Olympic athlete. Sadly there is no Gold Medal to be awarded for such mental gymnastics.
dman: No, you just got really boring!
As I said dman, she's a troll.
CaerRaven - Actually, annoying as some of Mozzie's posts may be, I wouldn't call her (or him) a troll. That is at least a couple of rungs lower on the social ladder. I also have no basis by which judge his or her gender.
Whatever his or her gender may be, I would call Mozzie somebody who stopped doing any honest thinking about this subject some time ago.
So, anyway, good luck and safety to you when and if you next go hunting. While you'll never catch me gutting or butchering a freshly killed dear, not as long my supermarket will sell me a steak, I've nothing against those who do hunt and do so responsibly.
Later...
I don't hunt, physically unable to unfortunately, my husband does so he's schooled me in a lot of ways of the rules of hunting. I actually never realized there were a ton of restrictions on what you can and cannot hunt or when and where until I met him.
I prefer my steak pre-prepared myself but I certainly don't mind some fresh venison steak now and again. :)
This is why you see any type of pigeon coops outside-when their poo turns to dust and is inhaled it causes a disease process that will eventually cause your lungs to look like swiss cheese on an x-ray.
Mozzie-600-------------I said that we killed the white rabbits with a large club--stick-hitting them over the head--how else would would you do it--the rabbit was food--a source of protein--to kill a wild rabbit a person had to fire a bullet---the 1951 way was to hold the rabbit by the neck and hit it over the head--a humane way to kill the rabbit--the hide was nailed to the out house wall to dry and cure--made gloves out of the hides and belts for kids--what a way for a animal to provide a resource --excuse me --the President is about to make a speech---explaning why we have 35,000,0000 illegals and they have their rights and should be be given citizenship--all manorities--first preference for jobs over Americans.
Incidentally, preference for wellfare benefits too.
Animal hoarding always starts out with good intentions and then becomes over-whelming--good intentions. Can't image conditions of the home, but bet it has to be bulldozed--hope animals find good homes, and owner gets help.
Try can't imagine, you illiterate.
Fre, give skyparrot a break. Anyone can miss a word. Spell check catches spelling mistakes, not wrong word errors.
@Fre - This coming from the literary master who posted "condescending this man"? You know what they say about those who live in glass houses.
Free range all of those removed animals .
Let them have some fun .
Yeah, let them be subject to predators again, hit by cars, sucked into airplane intakes and generally slaughtered. Some animal rights loons near us raided a medical lab and "free ranged" a good number of animals who died wholesale by starvation, weather, cars, other animals like dogs and cats got them.....
It'd be fun to free range you off your couch and out into the woods about now. We have about -10 and a howling wind. I'm sure your tank top and hat would fix everything.
Jeesh Steve, lighten up dude.
How about we Free Range you,and as Steve says off your couch and right out into the below zero weather.You'd look like a statue,frozen with your tank top and base ball cap!
Maybe the pigeons can come and settle on your head,and use it for a poop dropper! How's that?
Now that would be Funny!
Gee Anil, get a brain.
"Maybe the pigeons can come and settle on your head,and use it for a poop dropper! How's that?
Now that would be Funny!" The poop would be in familiar territory inside that skull.
Good one Fre!
Let the pigeons loose as I am sure they can live nicely on their own-albeit there is a risk of predators having them for lunch.
Got pigeons in your town? No?
Gas 'em, they're nothing by sky rats. Good for falconry at best.
Gassing and poisoning gets in everything else. Let them free, the hawks will eat them if you need to get rid of them.
It did say some of the animals (and whoever wrote this: Pigeons, chickens etc. are BIRDS....say it!) were sick. But it didn't indicate any of the animals were starving or mistreated. So...if you get 223 humans or any other species together a few will be sick. Go to the mall today to illustrate that.
What was his offense?
If you take a skunk to church, will he sit in his own pew?
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!
The following movie is rated Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! for Pirate content.
It seems like he was taking good care of all the animals. None deceased and some sick yet will fully recover. None of the animals exotic or illegal. No crime, just overwhelmed I'm sure. Hoarding and neglect of animals does not read out like this story. Anyone looking to adopt some rabbits or chickens, call this guy's local rescue league. Just let the pigeons go they will be fine.
This is hoarding!! Read the article what you do not understand is the bird poo alone can make people seriously ill. This is too many animals for one person to properly take care of. I work for a shelter and this is serious hoarding here. The pigeons will have to go to experts first to see if they will be just"let loose" some of them may need to go to homes where they can be properly taken care of and the rabbits will have to be found homes due to the fact they are probably no longer afraid of people and other animals so you can't just let them loose. The chickens will have to be tested for illness before they can go to farms or other homes. This man started with good intentions but he ended up being overwhelmed and could not tell people no. This home will more than likely have to be condemned due to the health hazard and then torn down. If he allowed the pigeons to fly and roost in the house the floors, walls, etc. are behind repair.
he could not have been taking very good care of the animals--sheer numbers, and the stench.
The lady needs to sell her house and buy a farm.
Can't you eat pidgeons?
Yes, and they are tasty, but you can really only eat the breastmeat.
I keep mice in my place. They're not exactly invited guests though. Hope I don't go to jail for it.
Now, THAT was funny!!
Geeze, people get so flippin' uptight. It's one story. Does anyone ever watch "Hoarding" shows on TV? This is common. People do this all the time. The authorities are NOT just going to let these animals "free range". That would be irresponsible, at best.
Did you read the article? He's going to be allowed to keep some dogs & cats. (big mistake) So that seems like there will be no demolition of the dwelling (second mistake) But you know what? This story is not the worst problem we have in this country. Worry about yourselves, your family & your neighbors.
If we take out the psychological issue of animal hoarding out of the equation, are these people genetically predisposed to have absolutely NO SENSE OF SMELL? I don't understand this.
One of the symptoms of Dementia is animal hoarding, and yes, one indicator of Dementia is loss of the sense of smell. Treatment is difficult.
Animal hoarding... Some people are just nuts...
Ever see a factory farm? Take a good look where any of your food comes from and you will be shocked at those conditions. That includes the milk and eggs you eat. I am sure this mans birds were getting better care than any farm animal, their were just too many of them for one man to care for. He is not nuts just a caring individual with well meaning intentions.
I grew up about 7 miles from Huber Heights and, depending on where in Huber Heights, the guy could have had a house with a VERY large lot (several acres) or he could have been right next door to some folks. I am guessing the former and not the latter because that is a lot of birds. Sounds like the guy was just being kind to animals and took on too much. Hope he gets a little help and takes great care of the animals they leave with him.
The story didn't really convince me it was anything different than your average poorly kept, sloppy, messy, FARM. In some states we actually call it that.
Many farms are overcrowded, poorly kept up, and reeking.
I can see why he wasn't charged. He had a lot of animals and they stunk. Uhh...big deal. No story here!
The headline should read: Homeowner seized, hundreds of animals rescued.
And do what with those said animals? What diff does it make the animals are still being caged and will die that way, at least the man tried to prevent that. He was trying to do what you say you want but you want to put him behind bars. Typical. Tell me do you eat chicken or eggs?
It sounds like about 60 pigeons flew over the cuckoo's nest.
So now they are going to give Medical aid to these pigeons and rabbits? Are they crazy spending money on rodents and birds. They should be taken to the nearest zoo and fed to the animals there. We can't afford health care for people but we can for Pigeons and rabbits. Crazy.
Like your job at McDonald contributes anything to our tax base.
Rabbits are not rodents, guess you failed Biology in school, huh?
Pigeons are pretty darn tasty!! So are rabbits. I'll pass on the dogs and cats.
Agree, sautéed pigeon breats and hasenpfeffer are tasty. They can sell the dogs and cats to the local Korean and Chinese meat markets.
First time I've heard of hoarding with a bunch of pigeons and rabbits! Unusual. Well, I hope all survive and get good homes.
Depending on how long the pigeons have been in captivity they may not be able to just be released. It sounds like at least some of these pigeons have spent their whole life in captivity. They know nothing about being ware of predators.
Give his animals back you dicks!
Ace Ventura moved to Ohio.
Was his house made out GOPHER WOOD smeared inside and out with pitch ,300 cubits long, 50 wide,and 30 high? With a large door on th side ?
how very sad that in this country, people with good intentions can end up in such miserable conditions. I just pray he isnt charged with some stupid law or crime of hoarding. This is a mental illness, no matter what they are hoarding. Hope he gets the help that he needs from animal societies or whatever.