Actually Minnesota has endured mild winters for quite a while, this is now truly a Minnesota winter..Anyway I need seasons,yes it may be cold but its better than a tornado raging thru your neighborhood or a hurricane wiping out the entire coastline only to follow by flooding and hampering heat..Yes I'll take a little bit of winter.

Yes it is cold here, if you peed outside I swear it would be icicles when it hit the ground.

Ah, finally some decent tailgating weather. Now if we'd just get a foot or two of snow.

Sometimes I think these Minnesota winters are going a bit soft...

In 1970 I was in Korea and we had an exceptionly cold day and high winds, the windchill factor was -60. I have never been in such chill you through to the Bone cold. I feel for the people there.

I was at a site in the middle of Alaska, -20, -30 before wind chill was the "norm" for this time of year.

stonepipe2

Yes it is cold here, if you peed outside I swear it would be icicles when it hit the ground.

If you could find the "spout" and turn it on in the first place.

Wow. Sub-zero temps in Minnesota and snow in New England. In JANUARY?

What a surprise.

We have a saying in the construction trades up here (MN/ND)---Six inches of clothes, four inches of c**k, now what? LOL

Definately very cold, but not the worst I've seen. I remember some -40 wind chills one winter when I was in college. I'd rather have the snow than the bitter cold though. Plus we need more precipitation with this stupid drought.

Where is Al Gore??!!

Who cares?

inmissouri

Plus we need more precipitation with this stupid drought.

Stonepipes trying.....

Snow and cold temperatures aren't anything new, but living in Ohio it sucks when it happens, especially where I live.... very rural, so plows are maybe once a day. But, used to it.

What's hard to get used to is that every article, this one no exception, all states are mentioned around Ohio, but somehow Ohio is never mentioned for what's projected. Sure, can look it up myself, but the point is why is Ohio always left off the news? Is it going to be skipped, even though all surrounding states are involved? Maybe cuz of the Lakes it's hard to predict, but so is Michigan and Pa.

Maybe we will be safe; they're sending off our crews to help elswhere. Last time that happened, we got knocked with power outages, too, and were left hanging for a few......

Yes it is cold here, if you peed outside I swear it would be icicles when it hit the ground.

Well, be sure not to touch any flag poles!

5 field seasons in ANTARCTICA

37 years in Mini-Soda

5 years in Chicago

Mini-Soda was ALWAYS COLDER and the people studier & more friendly,

the only wussies in MN are the ones who moved there .

Extreme variations in climate demonstrate the veracity of human-influenced Global Warming.

If you don't accept this now, you will be forced to accept this in another 50 years...which is 50 years too late.

History will record what "Party" was cognizant of, and tried to make changes, to prevent Global Warming.

"Extreme variations in climate demonstrate the veracity of human-influenced Global Warming.

If you don't accept this now, you will be forced to accept this in another 50 years...which is 50 years too late.

History will record what "Party" was cognizant of, and tried to make changes, to prevent Global Warming."

Simply put, you and the other global warming nut-jobs, have not been alive long enough throughout the history of the planet top make such preposterous statements. Now go smoke some more crap and kumbaya some more...

I'll be long gone in 50 years Never Stop, so I don't care. Also, this is NORMAL WEATHER for that region this time of year...the last year or two have been mild.

It is NOT an extreme variation in CLIMATE. Please learn some science so you don't have to reveal your ignorance. From Wikipedia:

Climate encompasses the statistics of temperature, humidity, atmospheric pressure, wind, precipitation, atmospheric particle count and other meteorological elemental measurements in a given region over long periods. Climate can be contrasted to weather, which is the present condition of these elements and their variations over shorter periods.

This is why I live in Fl.

Yeah, when I lived in Minnesota it was pretty common to see -15 to -25 just about every night all winter long, so if the wind is blowing at 20 knots a wind chill of -50 isn't uncommon for Minnesota either. I have seen 10-15 ft snow drifts plenty of times in Minnesota too. Thinking back, I have seen a standing air temperature of -27F in Gary, IN and -28F in Kalamazoo, MI since 1975 too, and in both cases the wind was blowing the drifting snow sideways too. I have even seen 14 inches of snow in Memphis, Nashville, and Knoxville on the same day too, as I drove right through it!

No, a wind chill of -50 in most of northern America is pretty normal winter weather, but one thing that makes me laugh is when Southerners have to put-up with cold weather too! Have you ever seen the weatherman giving-out wind chill readings when the outside air temperature was 60 degrees? Have you ever flown to LA or Phoenix in mid-winter and seen those poor folks putting-on the winter coats, hats, and gloves when it is 55 degrees outside, while you head outside in a t-shirt thinking how nice it is instead of that -20F at home?

Get used to it, eh?

Not nearly as cold here in mideastern Ohio (18 F at this writing), but I'm bringing the brass monkey in off the porch... if you get my drift.

When we fully enter into the next Ice Age, I wonder what spin the "climate change" and "global warming" enthusiasts will come up with? Maybe the countries that create the most carbon emissions can confiscate everything Al Gore and goons have to make up the damage created by their very ingenious get-rich scheme.

Extreme variations in climate demonstrate the veracity of human-influenced Global Warming.

If you don't accept this now, you will be forced to accept this in another 50 years...which is 50 years too late.

History will record what "Party" was cognizant of, and tried to make changes, to prevent Global Warming.

Simply put, Whether it's Warm in the summer and cold in the winter we can still blame it on global warming because it's considered climate change.

Wind chill is nothing. I live in Minnesota. I've walked to the bus stop when the temperature was 30 degrees below zero (making the wind chill around minus 80 or so).

What is alarming is that we are not getting the amount of snow that we used to, which translates into drought in the summer.

Deny global climate change all that you want, but it is moisture, not temperature, that truly indicates it.

They also fly north for the summer.

This only applies to birds that are above the equator, below the equator birds fly north for the winter and south for the summer.

However humans are not birds, We tend to settle in one place and call it home, There was a time when human populations were nomadic and followed traditional routes based on the seasons of the year.

There are however growing numbers of birds that are not choosing to migrate and are becoming resident populations in placrs the used to make as stopovers on migration routes, Resident Canada goose populations in NJ have risen dramatically over the last few decades , These geese are not going north or south, They are simply staying put here in NJ, Other states are having similar problems.

Lostsomewheredude,

Are you sure about all that now? My feeble attempt at humor was just that, an attempt at humor, not a feeble attempt at scientific discourse.

Oh well, you'll probably miss that one too.

Awww look...Plotinus made a funny with my screen name...aren't you the clever one...I understood your humor, Did I make you feel like you were being attacked, Are you lacking in self confidence. I simply added to what you had written, There was no criticism direct or implied.

Poor Plotinus...feeling picked on.

Now...about that avatar of yours, Did you pilfer that from Wikipedia, That looks just like the photo displayed there, Do you think the great philosopher Plutinus would approve of theft of someones elses property.

and yes I realize I spelled Plotinus wrong!

Naw, not picked on at all. Just poking fun at someone who needs it. Actually I AM Plotinus, just hanging out in a new body.

Hey, I am fine with being poked fun at my wife does it all the time!

I see you avoided the question of your avatar pic...

Will repeat it for you. I AM Plotinus. I do not need permission from myself. Only multiple personalities would have to do that.

I see you are still approving your own posts. Naughty naughty.

LOL...you are a common thief, You have pilfered a photo from Wiki and are using it for your own personal use.

As for the approving my own post...I don't have to, There are plenty of people around to either approve or disapprove.

Common thief? I steal from no one. Actually I did not want that bust to be made of me in the first place. Why leave an image of an image for posterity to gawk at, but to satisfy my patrons I allowed it. But you would probably not understand that.

Be honest now. Who is going to find our back and forth here worth approving or disapproving?

Evidently someone has because neither you nor I have the ability to add more than 1 check to our posts.

And while you may not consider it theft and a lot of people do this the simple fact is that copying someone else's work and converting it to your own personal use is indeed theft.

Now back to your original post and my original response, I simply added to it, I did not criticize or ridicule anything you said. Maybe you should have a cup of jo and relax, If you don't like coffee then try some tea, I recommend TAZO Zen, I find it very smooth and refreshing yet relaxing.

Hey Plotinus and Lostinthepinebarrens,

What does any of your back and forth comments have to do with anything ?

monstahead

its called communication....so far looks pretty much an even match

Hey Monstahead, absolutely nothing after Plotinus first post and my comment, But if you do not want to see them you can simply put us on ignore.

But since you brought it up, What does your comment have to do with the current wind chills in Minnesota or snow in New England.

And just to bring us back on topic, I personally enjoy all four season of the year and especially enjoy the winters.

I fail to see how I could steal from myself. As I said, I did not want that bust made to begin with.

I'm drinking some mighty fine Peruvian coffee right now, looking out at snow covered Vermont mountains where it is below zero outside.

I never took your response to my post as criticism or ridicule. I just wondered why you went to an effort to explain bird migrations when obviously I was poking fun at people like me who for some reason or another don't have sense enough to head south when the deep freeze up here begins. I'm in a mighty cold climate here. Yesterday we had 50/60 mph winds with snow. Go figure.

Monstahead,

Lostdude and I have poked fun at each other a few times in the past. We enjoy a little mental sparring every now and then. I try not to call him stupid, and he returns the favor by not calling me criminally insane. If you will notice we brought the conversation back to snow, ice, and cold temps. Sorry if our playing bothered you. Well, I'm not really sorry about it. It's been enjoyable. Time for some more of that strong Peruvian coffee. And off to work, guys. Gotta pay my bills.

Well a hot cup of coffee is always a good start to a bitter cold morning.

I would imagine if I were in Minnesota I would be on my 3rd or 4th cup by now.

Yesterday here in NJ it hit 50 degrees with wind gusts to 35mph, This morning at 5am it was 19 degrees with winds under 10 mph, I am still hoping for more cold here so I can do a bit of ice fishing and eel spearing.

LITPB-Are you psychic? #3. Lol, have a great day.

I am still hoping for more cold here so I can do a bit of ice fishing and eel spearing.

its coming lost. was 54 here Friday, wind gust's hit 50+ most of Friday night and bingo...4 degrees sat. hasnt been above 12 since. sure am glad i paid way ahead on my gas bill back when i had a job.

eel spearing? gotta look that up.

Eel pout maybe? Ugly, fugly.

Looked it up , round here we call it "gigging" , about the same thing, we do it with spears and reeled bow & arrows but for fish...not eel's, round here eels are killed due to endangering the fish.

The eels we spear are eels that have bedded down in the soft mud at the mouths of salt water estuaries, Most of these eels will die anyway, The method is dependent on how thick the ice is, If it is thick enough to walk on then you simply walk out cut a hole and using a spear head(usually 4-6 barbed prongs on a long wooden pole(12-20 ft) If the ice is not thick enough to walk on the we use our boats usually a Garvey with sheet metal fastened along the waterline to protect from the ice cutting the wooden hull and break water out to the area you want to spears from. You plunge the spear down into the mud and keep plunging until you feel an eel on, Eels are a very tasty fish and are not a danger to the other fish in my area, They are one of the more expensive fish meats here. We used to be able to trap them in the fall using fish traps and broken up horseshoe crabs as bait, There is currently a moratorium on taking any horseshoe crabs here in NJ so we use winkles(whelks) snails or conchs but they are not as effective as horseshoe crabs, personally I just enjoy getting out on the water even if it is frozen.

LostInThePineBarrens #3.21 - Most of them will die anyway? The rest are immortal? Quiet about that, or they will be hunted to extinction for their powers of immortality!

Snow? It's 85 here.

You must be some kind of evil elitist like Mitt Romney. How dare you be somewhere warm.

Scott, The eels that do not return to the Sargasso Sea and instead bed down in the mud generally die in the mud, Those that return to the Sargasso Sea mate and deposit their eggs which hatch and then the newly hatched eels make their way to the east coast of the US(American eel) or to Europe (European eel) There are no immortal eels. The reason they are allowed to be speared while bedded down in the mud is because they will die anyway so it does not hurt or reduce their numbers

Thanks, Lost. I'm not really so dense to think there are immortal eels. But I didn't know all that about the eel's life cycle. Quite interesting. What is the selective advantage to that behavior, just burying itself in mud and dying? I notice though that you say "generally die".

Hi Scott, You made me laugh, Yes I never actually thought that you really meant immortal, I caught the joviality, While most of the eels that bury in the mud die there are some that do survive and reemerge from the mud, The American eel is a unique fish in that it can live in both fresh and salt water and can travel between salt and fresh water, Some of those that survive do return to the Sargasso Sea to reproduce and others will make their way to inland freshwater areas and spend the rest of their lives in fresh water, As to why they bed down in the mud, I really do not know, I do know that they do generally congregate in groups when they bed down and when your spear hits one eel you are usually in a pocket where others are, Sometimes hooking more than 1 eel at a time on the spear .

I have to dig into this. There must be something beneficial to them for this burying behavior. Happy spearing!

Only an idiot would make such an inane comment.

Only an idiot would not understand the sarcasm of the comment.

LITPB,

Don't tap on the aquarium .... it annoys the fish.

Morning Bill, You are up early, Hey... Sometimes I enjoy annoying the fish {;~]

Give it a break.

gm guys

Lm guessing either mike

A. Is one of those who just dont get it

B . He learned a new word and was dying to use it.

Mark-1955856

Give it a break.

Arm or leg? ......either way its pretty easy to do in this weather.

Are you dudes daring to say Al Bore was wrong?

If a liberal says something about anything, and there's not a conservative around to correct them, are they still wrong?

yes

Unfortunately we here in Iowa do. the snow replenishes the fields streams and rivers, and we are number 3 nation wide in wind power, ( CA, TX, IA,) , so yeah we need it....don't much like it mind ya...but its weather, what ya going to do about it?

Unfortunately we here in Iowa do. the snow replenishes the fields streams and rivers,

Something many people do not understand, Snow melts slowly and is absorbed down into the aquifers and helps replenish the fields,streams and rivers, Rain generally just rapidly runs off into streams,lakes and bays taking with it all pollutants,soil and debris.

and we are number 3 nation wide in wind power,

Not many places here in NJ where wind power would be effective, Too small a state, We have a growing numner of solar farms going up around here, Problem is they are taking existing productive farmlands and orchards and converting to solar panel farms so basically any reduction in pollution by using solar panels is cancelled out by the elimination of crops and trees. They were talking of putting wind turbines off shore but that underwater transmission lines causes problems with fishing grounds, shellfish harvesting and the blades harm/kill some migratory birds.

We need the snow, but not so much the single digit temps. Of course the snow's been missing us lately, but we have the crazy cold wind.

I was under the impression that the frozen ground was not very absorbant so most snow melt ended up in rivers or overland flooding.

Just roll over?

ice holes.......( in some places )

Ice holes are bad for Ice Skating and Ice Sailing but good for Ice Fishing

....or did you mean that other type of ice hole?

gee ....me?... insinuate, a nasty thing like iceholes in chitown, detriot, etc.? ....naw not me lost

But cutting a few ice-holes on a skating pond and then fishing out your "catch" does sound kinda fun.

I bet!

And speaking of iceholes, wasn't that Roman Maroni's (character from the movie Johnny Dangerously) favorite words as in, "Yer a Fahrrgin icehole"?

JBW...good post!

Well we have an an abundant absence of heat today. Unfortunate we have an absence of slight breeze also.

after about a week our winds are calm, but its early it will pick up....weather around here is kinda like us that way, its gotta get up, scratch its privates, take a leak, drink some coffee, then head on out to do its job...smiling and whistling all the way..... i swear i heard it many times

Don't worry, Obama and the dems will outlaw winter if deaths occur, LOL

They can't outlaw it, but they may tax us for it. It will be an accross the board 1.5% tax for every American, then the lower 50% will be given a 3% tax credit so they don't have to suffer financially. They'll then spend the money that they did not make by studying the effects that ice fishing has on the Boeing 787 eletrical systems. Clear?

it makes us "tough" and "resilient" and all that crap... remember now?.....he states through chattering teeth....

No mosquito's. Few tornado's. Teeny tiny earthquakes if ever. No hurricane's (although imagine if they hit in the middle of winter-snowfall would be feet per hour and windchills would be worse!).

Lots of lakes to play in!

Come down here. We have a nice even balance of frying and freezing :)

inmissouri, i do about every 6 weeks. cigs here $54. a carton there $35 a carton. bet your state loves the extra tax money these dopes up here lose.

Come on down to New Mexico where we have about 400 days of clear blue skies every year.

BRING WATER!

Mr. R- no water to spare here in drought country... and I like our crazy back and forth weather. When I get tired of one thing, it's time to look forward to the next season :). In a few weeks, temps will start creeping back up, and in 2 months, spring is here!

I am so glad I live in Florida, LOL

Glad and Florida used in the same sentence? not according to the news as of late.

if it wasn't for global warming we could not possibly have all this long frigid winters now, Huh?,

Long frigid winter? Actually, it has been quite mild in Minnesota. This used to be the norm. It's very cold, but it could be worse. Cold is when you have to squint because your eyeballs start freezing.

Last winter was mild. The three before that were damned cold and snowy. In 2008 I had to replace my boiler when the old one quit in November. It turned out to be a major operation and we got by on a few space heaters until Jan 1. It was repeatedly 20 to 30 below in December that year, and spent the month huddled in sleeping bags watching TV.

Unlike you, he understand that is irrelevant to the debate that is not even relevant to this article.

You don't understand representative sampling, do you?

EngEsq

You don't understand representative sampling, do you?

You don't have to understand representative sampling if you are always the one who gets to say which samples are representative.

It's called manipulating the data, or throwing out if it doesn't support the preordained conclusion.

not sounding very friendly there gadget............

I'm sure Min has a lot of up sides also.

It does.....as all places do, well most anyway. Worked a small town up there all last winter great people. but i do declare mention snow and cold and they go bonkers with joy, causing me in many instances to qoute an old southern friend of mine, and state...."ya'all just tain't ryght"...

LOL

Congratulations on being the BIGGEST stereo type of a stupid Southerner who is intolerant and can't get over things that happened over 100 years ago (freeing slaves was what the GOOD GUYS did, by the way).

Haitians? I'm in MN. LOL. I don't know ONE Hatian. They don't come here, Dumb A$$.

If they did I would say "Hi, Welcome. Tell me about your homeland and your journey so I can learn and we can be friends."

Your a TURD.

Another classic example of why Florida is becoming the armpit of the country...

I worked with some Hatians once (and Cubans and Puerto Ricans)- while I was in Florida for a landscaping internship at Disney. Nice guys, hard workers, if a bit sexist (had to fight over who would do the heavy lifting- the 21 year old girl or a 70 year old guy named Guillermo. I had to be quick to beat him to it.)

@fossafun: Thank you very much for pointing out that (freeing slaves was what the GOOD GUYS did, by the way). Lincoln was a Republican!

R.Bondy

Just goes to show how that party has declined. He would be called a stinkin' liberal, today, by kooky right wingers.

I'm laughing at your post and I don't know why. Must be the non-sequitarality of it.

So back at ya: What do you have when ten tall jewish men are on a basketball court?

A real estate seminar.

86 and sunny, with a light breeze.

I want to move in with YOU.

Golfur; being a goofball doesn't make you tough. I live under fifty feet of water without the use of a breathing apparatus. Thank you . Signed, Melvin Mudfish.