Nothing like having a good solid door as a first line of defense. Also, the owner didn't use a rifle, he used a pellet gun.Personally, I would have had a bat handy.But that is just me.That is something our family did growing up near the woods with wildlife nearby. We saved the weapons for things like bears,cougars and such during hunting season. Though we did keep one inside if needed for emergencies. Otherwise our dogs inside were protection enough for animal problems we found.

You could have used a grenade or your RPG on them, you wouldn't have to physically hit them with bullets, just hit close to them.

GM WDS.

Good morning stonepipe2, nice seeing you today:-D

yea, a shot gun filled with rock salt, they may think twice next time.

IL is a gun control state, no wonder he only had a BB gun.

Should have had a Great Pyrenees dog. A coyotes worst nightmare, for good reason.

They were introduced in Ohio to control deer (thanks to the insurramce companies) and now are a huge nuisance as well as breeding with domesticated dogs making a coyote that is NOT afraid of people according to some of our friends from the rangers office. Shoot on sight is their suggestion....they are a voracious. If you never seen what they do to a deer it is something out of a horror movie with intestines strung around like garland on a Christmas tree. A better deer control would of been extending the hunting limits to hunters and an extended season every few years for sportsmen, something I am not----deer jerky is ok, but I'll compare a good fillet Mignon to your deer back straps ANYDAY! To each their own. Almost as much of a pest as the Japanese beetles put here to save the honey bees with no natural predator in the bird world.

Live in central Illinois. Have had several instances of coyotes in the field behind my house. Have a 4 foot chain link fence in back yard for my dogs to run. Have had in the past two German Shepherds and a Black Lab. The last time I had problems was when I opened up the door to let my Black Lab and Rottweiller out, there were six coyotes sneaking up to the neighbors back yard. (They had three very small ankle biter dogs) When my two big dogs saw the coyotes, they sprinted to the back of the fence barking and the six coyotes turned tail and ran. I am fairly certain my two saved the neighbors smaller dogs because it appeared they were sneaking up to snatch one or more of them. I believe in guns, own guns and have had mandatory firearm training for work at the sheriff's office. But just pointing out they weren't even needed when my dogs took care of things for me (and the neighbors).

Part of the problem is there are far TOO MANY coyotes, they are everywhere anymore and they are losing their fear of humans. A bad, bad combination. I even heard one person say that if everything else on the face of the earth were to become extinct, the coyote would be left. That is how cunning, manipulative and sneaky they are. I have seen many of them in action and it's not too far a stretch to believe that.

Long live the Red Rider BB gun with the compass in the stock.

Shoot their eye out. No, really.

Next pet should be, hmm, Luke Skywalker. Make sure he brings a back up light saber for you :)

Sadly, in fact, this is a great example of loss of habitat. Where are they supposed to go? A conundrum.

Hummmmm ... If you haven't lived with wild animals to understand how dangerous they can be........ you can't understand the need to keep them under control !

I love all the wildlife around me ... BUT you learn that if they can be extremely dangerous and a real threat to life ... especially your pets!

I live less than 10 miles from the Chesapeake Bay ..across from its mouth in to the Atlantic Ocean ( about as east as you can get) and a acquaintance last week spotted a cougar within five miles of me, even got a photo.

Who would have ever thought we'd see a "Mountain Lion" in this area?

Wildlife has to be kept under control .... if you don't, the results can be devastating ... as this story shows ..

It's not especially habitat loss, the coyotes have discovered that the pickin's are easier in urban areas...garbage cans, small animals, foolish humans who actually feed them. Foxes learned this some time ago, but are much less aggressive.

6 ft fences will not deter a coyote, they can and do climb. sadly just because the big dogs scared them off once doesn't mean the coyotes don't know the dogs are contained and cant harm them, coyotes will lure bigger dogs away including a Pyrenees and mob kill it.

The coyote population in America is getting out of control. There are now coyotes living in parts of the US that they did not live in before. This is a direct result of the decimation by man of their natural rivals, the wolf. Coyotes have moved into those locations once populated by wolves and without wolves to cull their numbers coyotes are constantly moving into new areas and seeking out new food sources.

Three and a half feet is the height of a standard hurdle..I know my border collie can leap higher than me,these city folks have forgotten what wildlife is..It is good he didn't have a doggy door.

I have coyotes where I live and even though I have a large dog, if I hear coyotes I'm very careful about letting her out. The area is wooded and I have to judge from the howls how close they are. There have been many many quick outside bathroom trips.

A lot of this problem is being caused by people who do not secure their garbage cans, leave bowls of dog food outside, and even feed the coyotes. They learn that there are easy food sources in the neighborhood and this encourages them to come in. Then small pets are put at risk. People need to be aware that there is wildlife in the area and not do things that will draw the wild animals in. Also, a 3.5 foot fence is not something that will contain even a modest size dog, let alone keep wild animals out. This person should seriously consider a higher fence. I used to live right next to Mission Trails Park and we had coyotes in the neighborhood all the time. Everyone knew that you did not let small dogs out at night or they were likely to end up dead. There was even one case where someone was walking their small dog on a long leash at night and a coyote took the dog right off the leash. If you are going to have small dogs out at night in an area where there are coyotes you either better have a tall fence or walk them on a short leash, otherwise you are asking to lose those pets.

If you have a Great Pyrenees dog in your back yard, you will not have a coyote problem. You may, from time to time, have to pick up and remove the coyote carcasses, but that is about the only problem youwill have.

Just get a donkey and you can leave your guns in the safe where your kids can't get them and kill themselves or others accidentally or intentionally.

This story seems a bit odd to me. First off, I live in the AZ desert, phx, where I see coyotes running down the streets almost weekly...dogs are eaten regularly, but it has never made the news...if you left your Chihuahua running around the neighborhood on its own, because "well he always comes home on his own", and then suddenly little barky face is gone, we all know its the coyotes...and the FACT THAT YOU LEFT YOUR DOG TO RUN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT A LEASE.....simply begging for coyote to show up at your door.

Id like to see a coyote try anything with my Chihuahua while shes got her big brother riddick (110 fuzzy bull mastif)...they run when he barks!! Its this amazing deep "rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrhhhh rrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhh" sound, shakes everything around, i love it.

A few weeks ago one of our friends lost a pony when coyotes went into their barn and killed and ate most of it. It is just a matter of time before they attack a child or an elderly person out for a walk. These coyotes appear to have cross bred with large dogs which makes them much more dangerous. The proper response is to remove the danger or move from the area.

Windancersong-1494878

WOW saving ones life with a bat nice thought, so how many hits does a coyote take?? times 4 hmmm hope you can swing fast.

roadlesstraveled

.........dogs are eaten regularly, but it has never made the news.

NBCNEWS has an agenda
The story involved Chicago where they have been killing each other at better than one a day with guns, where it is ILLEGAL to have a firearm outside the home, for the past several years
The homeowner used his "non lethal" BB gun to defend his property...

Enough said.

I am not a hunter, cupcake, but if a wild animal like a wolf was lunging toward me, I would want to be armed with more than a BB gun whether I was a man or a woman.

cupcake, it is obvious that you have never had to hunt wolves:

I don't understand why someone would need a high power fire arm to kill wolves.

First thing that you need is range (er distance), second wolves do weigh up to 120# and a .22 would most likely just irritate them. The kill zone for a small weapon on a wolf is not very large and they do not sit still very often.

The comment about "it is best to have them and not need them, than need them and not have them" is spot on.

'betcha we see at least a coyote a day where I live, have actually watched two take down a full size deer....they definitely made a mess and ignored my two huskies.

Keep a .410 above the door just in case they get too close.

sorry cupcake, but you seem to be alittle ignorant as to what a BB gun can kill, it might sting and scare a coyote off but not much else, need atleast a 22 with good shot placement. I live in Az and have two large labs. Coyotes aren't a problem unless they would be out numbered. small dogs and cats are a good meal to a coyote. for the other ignorant post that coyotes were introduced in Ohio for deer control, sorry they weren't! coyotes have just taken advantage of their ability to adapt very well to living around people and living in cities.

2little

Just why do you think that a coyote can not breed with a dog? After all they are part of the canine breed.

I routinely get the same coyotes outside my office window, even get the occasional one in our neighborhood a couple miles removed from any real open area. They look quite healthy and have beautiful coats - humans provide lots of good food, inlcuding pets as that food source. And a 3.5 foot fence is nothing to them, true. They don't bother me. They are bold enough to wander areas that people frequent, but they aren't agressive towards humans - they avoid. I've camped with packs of them howling very nearby, never worried me in the least. Feral dogs have certainly made me consider how to defend myself though.

Cupcake - RobWI is right - a wolf is larger than most dog breeds. You're not going to drop one easily with a .22. And I also agree that I would rather have coyotes and wolves around and not need them, than to need them and not have them.

2little2late-7381371 - Where do you get your information? Coyotes absolutely can breed with domestic dogs, as can wolves. It is a well known occurrence. Wahpeti is correct. A coyote-domestic cross tends to keep the wild nature combined with less fear of humans, and they can be more destructive to human values than coyotes or domestics. But really, feral dogs are more dangerous to humans than coyotes. Feral dogs are what we should really exterminate.

Worked on a ranch in Nebraska, saw a kill site where coyotes had taken down a three hundred pound steer. Be glad they are still afraid of humans. Let them breed with dogs, feed them and let them multiply, then we will see what the headlines say. A BB gun, or a bat will not make a difference. They are increadibly tough; can travel for miles after being shot with a high powered rifle.

This story should have read "Coyotes Break Glass".

They didn't break thru a normal door.

WIld animals need to eat. Pets are just on the food chain for them in populated areas that have crowded out natural habitats.

Any large dog that is fit, and is of a breed that is used for sheperding or attack, can hold it's own against a single coyote. It's when the coyotes lure them out, and mob them in hit and run attacks, that even the largest and fiercest dog can be brought down eventually.

Just by firing a firearm, most coyotes will turn tail. A revolver, shotgun, or carbine( I prefer a lever action .44) is more than sufficient to scare off, or shoot a few coyotes. Our ancestors held their own, before hi ammo cap mags in semi auto rifles were available.

It doesn't take Rambo with ARs(or other military style rifles) with more than 10 round capacities to get rid of/scare off a few coyotes (unless you are a horrible shot and need practice with your own firearm)

I've held off wild mountain dogs with a club/branch. Now that I own a nice machete, the first coyote/dog that tries to bite me, will get a quick slice(and maybe lose a limb). You can swing a machete a lot faster than a bat.

@Scott-- Your dead right. They breed with dogs and I've seen them as big as wolfs. They call them coydogs.

The coyote-dog mix is called a coydog. Texas A & M had an ineresting post on these animals here:

http://wild-wonderings.blogspot.com/2012/05/coyote-or-coydog-another-interesting.html

I find it odd. In Michigan where I grew-up, out in farm country, in Colorado's mountains, or even in west suburban Chicago nobody is afraid to shoot a coyote or even a fox, a mountain lion, or a wolf if it gets aggressive and goes after pets or livestock. In fact, just 40 miles west of Denver, a mountain lion killed and ate some luckless 18 year old jogger within the city limits of Idaho Springs 20 years ago too, a coyote bit a jogger in Boulder, CO last week, and several times in the last two years there have been coyote attacks on people in the upscale Denver suburb of Broomfield, CO too. There have been plenty of other attacks by large carnivores on humans over many years too.

However, where I live now, northwest suburban Denver, we have very aggressive coyotes that run in packs, that kill people's pets almost every night. I have personally seen packs of 15 and 20 adult coyotes at night on the golf course behind my house or even just walking down the sidewalk like a gang of teenagers. Every week our local paper is full of stories of dead pets and even of joggers and small children being attacked. But don't call our local police or even Colorado State wildlife officials, because all that you will get is a lecture on why we need to be nice to the coyotes from some animal rights activist.

If a coyote comes into my yard after one of my dogs or even after one of my grandchildren I have a 12-gauge with six shells in it, and even though I'll probably get in trouble for shooting it within city limits, when the cops show up there will several dead coyotes to serve as a lesson, both to the other coyotes and to my neighbors, as an example of what most people do with nuisance predatory wild carnivores in urban neighborhoods all over the rest of America.

• First let me preface my remarks by stating that I am not a 'gun guy'. I do not hunt. I do not target shoot. I do not collect guns. I do not belong to the NRA. I do not live in a 'rough' part of town. I own no guns, nor have I ever needed to have one. The last time I fired a shot in anger was in 1968.

  That being said, there are many people today, (myself included), who have a deep, (and a legitimate), distrust of the government.

  They believe that it is in the nature of governments to accumulate and to concentrate more and more power over people's lives. More power leads to more control.

  It has always been so. As Lord Acton so famously stated, "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." Meaning that those who are given power over others will use that power.

  Even if the government is not specifically intending to do so, it is the nature of large governments that this occurs.

  Now the government may espouse their desire to help the citizenry, but when individuals disagree with what the government determines is in their best interest, then those in power use coersion. Sometimes subtle sometimes not so subtle.

  This concentration of power and increasing coersion can be gradual (like slowly turning up the heat on a lobster in a pot), or sudden (like dropping him into boiling water).

  One need only be a casual student of history to see the process at work again and again and again.

  The Second Amendment is *our* garauntee that this loss of individual freedom and increasing control of our lives cannot be done with impunity.

  One need only look at what is occurring in Syria today or in Mexico, or any of a dozen other locations around the globe to see examples of what happens when the government controls the people and when the people are defenseless to resist.

  Now you may feel that this distrust is not warrented, or that it verges on paranoia. Many might agree with you. However many more, would not.

  The Founding Fathers believed fervently that ordinary citizens needed to be protected from an oppressive government. If they had not, then there would not have been a Second Amendment in the first instance.

  They were *very* distrustful of the concentration of power into the hands of the few. They set up safeguards against it by diluting that power into different branches and different levels. They tried to define precisely just who could do what, and what things they could not do. They added further protections in the Bill of Rights.

  The Founding Fathers, I am certain, would be aghast at the degree to which the government controls the lives of Americans today. Indeed, they went into rebellion over transgressions less onerous than what we today have allowed to be imposed upon us.

  Read the Declaration of Independence. Look at the reasons that are enumerated there. They speak of an oppressive government seeking to impose it's will upon the citizenry.

  The Second Amendment was NEVER about what type of arms citizens might own or about what the technological developments of the future might bring. It was not about hunting. It was not about home defense. It was not about target shooting. It was about the ability of citizens to oppose and resist the oppression of a tyrannical government.

  There are those Americans that honestly feel that this point of view is not applicable to the 21st century; that such concerns are the things of history. They label those like myself, as 'gun nuts' or as paranoid, even dangerous.

  If you are one that believes that this distrust is stuff out of a dusty history book, and has no relevance in the 21st century, then I urge you again to to look around more carefully.

  Those of us that support the Second Amendment feel that it's relevence is as valid now as it was when it was first penned.

@Lobo My friend Jen goes hunting with her AR because she likes the feel. Now her sister uses a bolt action. To each their own.

So semi-auto pistols are now assault pistols, and that BB gun is now a "high powered BB gun". Well done nbc, you have hyperbole down to a fine art.

Or we can just be a humble slave sissy like you. Waiting with the vaseline jar in hand.

use a short leash

All this does it keep you close to the slaughter of your pet and then you. You need to teach coyotes to be afraid of you. The best way is with a shotgun loaded with a hazing round which still kill at close range, if you are close to neighbours or BB shot if you are in the country. Kill one and the others will learn to stay clear.

While, genetically, there is no reason coyotes can't breed with domestic dogs, it would be EXTREMELY rare if they did. In most encounters with domestic dogs, they kill the dog. There are very few domestic dogs that are a match for a coyote in a fight and, I don't care how big and mean you think your dog is, they are no match for a pack of hungry coyotes.

I've seen my 10 lb. cat chase a 100+ lb. dog out of the yard because he startled the dog. If your Rottweiler, Pit Bull, or German Shepherd has chased a coyote out of your yard, consider yourself lucky because, if the coyote had not run you would, probably, have a dead dog, especially in the case of a pack of coyotes.

2little2late-7381371

brutaltruth.........coyotes CANNOT breed with dogs....sorry to ruin your story.

Nice fail dude. Might I suggest you go look it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coydog

Coydogs are common enough and can be purchased from breeders as can wolfdogs. I've been in close, prolonged contact with both and they are formidable animals...loyal, fearless and actually great companions if you like a stoic type of pet rather than one who seeks affection all the time.

I have wild coyotes (and black bears) on my property just about every night. The coyotes are too numerous and getting bolder as time goes by. I don't hunt them but would take a shot at one if i thought I could kill it outright.

The amount of foolishness and outright stupidity in far too many of theses comments underscore what is really wrong with the U.S. It makes it evident why we are sliding toward 3rd world status.

People really need to get out of their bunkers more.

@jkatze-- I take it that your from the city and don't have any stock. They are nothing but pests. There used to be a $25.00 bounty on them. Then came PETA.

#1.10 Geo - I even heard one person say that if everything else on the face of the earth were to become extinct, the coyote would be left. That is how cunning, manipulative and sneaky they are. I have seen many of them in action and it's not too far a stretch to believe that.

I don't think so. It will be the cockroach.

Old Timer-88224 - I want to watch you shoot that coyote with a shotgun while it's biting your grandchild. You must be an amazing shot to keep all the pellets on the yote and none on the child.

If a coyote was biting my son, I'd hit it with my machete, or use the butt/stock of my lever action to make it back away from my son. THEN I'd shoot it.

Or fire the firearm, which would probably startle the coyote(s) enough to run them off, or at least drop it's hold on my kid(and the next round would be into the coyote). Once one coyote is dropped, not many other coyotes will stick around(unless they are rabid).

Why take a chance of hitting the child, by shooting the animal that has him/her. The only way I'd do so, is if it was a large enough animal(bear), that it wasn't going to be too hard to miss or go thru the animal and hit the kid.

Even as good of a shot as I am with my own weapons, I'd still make sure the animal/coyote wasn' too close to my son, before letting shots fly at it.

Another reason I will never give up my guns. You never know when you might need one, and it is sooooo much better to have one and not need it than to need one and not have it.

There is no reason to give up your guns. The woman in Newton should have known better than to keep loaded weapons in the house with an emotionally troubled teen.

Firearms aren't right for every family.

But it's no reason to do away with them.

I suggest they change their windows to a much more sturdier design and they'll get much more security.

Those glass panes are of a decades old, obsolete design from the early 1960's of the last century; thin, very easily breakable into a mess of sharp glass shards (seen children bloody their hands and feet around those fragile panes when they bust, one atop another, pancaking down), and those panes are easily removable by hand from either side of the window, no tools needed at all.

When prospecting house burglars case the neighborhood and see those types of old windows, it's like an invitation, calling them to go inside.

Scott-369576

At 50 feet the spray from my shotgun is only 6 inches. At 50 feet I would love to see you even hit the coyote with your handgun when it has its jaws around your dog's neck or your grandson's too! Not only that, but every time that you miss you run the risk of a ricochet injuring or killing somebody else too!

the story went from talking about coyote's to some dude being sarcastic about an RPG or something along that line. there is always a sniveler just looking for a reason to segregate the gun owner. its like white and black all over again. americans hating americans for their beliefs. someone also said why would you shoot it with a shotgun while it is biting your grand daughter? Well what would you rather do throw it a steak? coyotes are pests all over the country. in florida a farmer will gladly pay you to kill them so he doesnt lose cattle. ive seen dozens of them in the middle of the night through a night scope stalking cows. the numbers are out of control. All i have to say is we the american people are going so low with the amount of disrespect that we creat to one another. oooohhh you own a gun..... bad guy bad guy. dont go around that person. ohhhhhh you dont own a gun...... sissy sissy. everyone has different beliefs. the truth is there are more people that believe in the need of the gun than there are those that dont. so get over it. climb down off your soap boxes youre not getting an award for picking on a gun owner or a non gun owner. in fact youre just helping the media make more money. ohh and the more you boost the gun issue, the more they are going to sell. so if you think you are hurting the gun industry by whining and telling stupid stories, you need to wake up. the gun is more popular than NIKE right now. say thank you news media. its just sad to watch us pick each other apart.

Enneagram1

#1.10 Geo - I even heard one person say that if everything else on the face of the earth were to become extinct, the coyote would be left. That is how cunning, manipulative and sneaky they are. I have seen many of them in action and it's not too far a stretch to believe that.

I don't think so. It will be the cockroach.

The cockroaches will have to share space with Rattus norvegicus though. Both of the latter species have extremely short generational times, giving them an edge over coyotes.

Enneagram1--"cunning, manipulative and sneaky" are words with negative connotations best reserved for describing humans and their motives.

@davebg/ The second amendment came into existence in order to provide the army with access to people with guns in case the british returned. The founders were not interested in having irate bozos shooting at the government they had worked to hard to create.

If you want to find out what the flounders actually thought about uproarious and rebellious citizens, do a little research on the Whiskey Rebellion. You'll see the answer in deeds.

That being said, there are many people today, (myself included), who have a deep, (and a legitimate), distrust of the government.

They believe that it is in the nature of governments to accumulate and to concentrate more and more power over people's lives. More power leads to more control.

....

The Second Amendment is *our* garauntee that this loss of individual freedom and increasing control of our lives cannot be done with impunity.

It's a valid argument, the only issue is that it nowhere near backs up what you are trying to say. The 2nd Amendment became obsolete as soon as the US Government built tanks, aircraft carriers and nuclear weapons, and the Supreme Court declared that private citizen possession of such was not legal.

Bottom line is that the citizenry has now no armed recourse against the power of the US Government, and hasn't for a long time. The gun industry wants you to believe that you might have a chance. They are lying. You don't.

What DOES guarantee against - or at least - tries to prevent government overreach is government oversight, and that is when citizens are vigilant against creeping laws such as the poorly named PATRIOT act. The funny thing is that it is liberals who are actually the ones who are vigilant against these, and they are the ones who are maligned as "terrorist lovers" and the like.

cupcake, it is obvious that you have never had to hunt wolves:

It's obvious that you didn't read the article all the way through. Let me offer an excerpt from the relevant part:

The coyotes were finally scared away when Nelson fired a high-powered BB gun at them, striking two of them, police said. Nelson's dogs were unharmed.

Robbob, it's 7.62x39 or 7.62x51 not 69.

2little2late states: brutaltruth.........coyotes CANNOT breed with dogs....sorry to ruin your story...Wahpeti...ditto...what you are seeing is well fed large coyotes...I grew up in Wyoming where there are thousands....and some get really big...but they do NOT interbreed.

Wrong: http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/coydog.htm

http://www.ct.gov/dep/cwp/view.asp?A=2723&Q=325992

The fact that this idiot has large dogs and he only has a 3ft fence is disturbing in and of itself. Dogs can clear that, so can people, and most definitely so can coyotes. A 7-8ft fence would be better since coyotes can easily clear a 6ft fence.

Glad his dogs were ok, but he should've been out there with them. My dogs don't go outside by themselves (Weimaraner & American Bulldog)

Although coydogs can be bred, it is pretty unusual. Seems to me I recently heard some State authority on such biological topics say, "Rarely does the legitimate rape of a dog result in pregnancy, because the bitch's body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. "

As a hard core Progressive, I couldn't resist that last comment.

That said, being a country person who raises gamebirds and has a lot of coyotes around, I can tell you from personal experience that when a half dozen or more coyotes are ripping into your bird pens in the middle of night trying to make lunch out of your hard efforts and money spent, you'll wish you had an AR-15 with a 30 round magazine. Now I wouldn't recommend that in the suburbs, but that is a different situation. I don't have one, but I can justify it and wish I did. The only problem is that all the crazy talk by some of my political cohorts is driving up the cost of these to ridiculous levels.

I know to many non-gun owners and city types, you may see no "legitimate" reason for these kinds of weapons, but to many in farm and ranching type environments, these are very useful tools. If you feel you have no use for them, don't own one, but don't try to tell me what is right for me. Owning firearms including so-called "assault weapons", which are just cosmetically similar to military weapons, is a personal right. Just like the right of a women to choose what to do with her body in the case of an unwanted pregnancy or the right of gays to marry the ones they love. Gun ownership and protecting and maybe even expanding or solidifying the interpretation of the Second Amendment, ought to be a Liberal issue. It is about Constitutionally guaranteed personal rights.

Re: interbreeding, dogs, wolves, coyotes can certainly interbreed. wonder if the prey aspect is complicated by territoriality, hormones, and such? Are cats as likely to be victims as small dogs?

Re: interbreeding, dogs, wolves, coyotes can certainly interbreed. wonder if the prey aspect is complicated by territoriality, hormones, and such? Are cats as likely to be victims as small dogs?

All varieties of dogs, from Beagles to St. Bernards are of the same species as the wolf and the Coyote. But I don't ever expect to hear of a chihuahua-timber wolf crossbreed occurring naturally.

Yes, cats can be attacked by packs of coyotes. But cats can at least climb trees. One of those odd looking lap dogs would not stand a chance.

#1.68 1NewDay - Owning firearms including so-called "assault weapons", which are just cosmetically similar to military weapons, is a personal right. Just like the right of a woman to choose what to do with her body in the case of an unwanted pregnancy or the right of gays to marry the ones they love.

The "personal right" you state is guaranteed only if you are part of a well-organized militia. Are you part of a well-organized militia?

#1.60 Woodrat - Enneagram1--"cunning, manipulative and sneaky" are words with negative connotations best reserved for describing humans and their motives.

That quote is someone else's. not mine.

Harold

Robbob, it's 7.62x39 or 7.62x51 not 69.

.300 Lapua Magnum

enneagram-have the ability to FORM a militia(well regulated) my nieghbors and family will form that "well regulated militia" if NEED be,it doesn't say anything about a STANDING MILITIA. don't worry we will abide by the constitution BY FORMING A WELL REGULATED MILTIA. thank you

Enneagram1

#1.68 1NewDay - Owning firearms including so-called "assault weapons", which are just cosmetically similar to military weapons, is a personal right. Just like the right of a woman to choose what to do with her body in the case of an unwanted pregnancy or the right of gays to marry the ones they love.

The "personal right" you state is guaranteed only if you are part of a well-organized militia. Are you part of a well-organized militia?

#1.71

It is too bad, sad really, knowledge and intellect are limited and ignorance and stupidity know no bounds.

Reference SCOTUS v Keller 2008, the 2nd amendment is an individual right, not connected to the militia or military service. And again SCOTUS "Chicago Lawsuit"

And my guess is you think our rights are derived from the US Constitution.

I always wanted a coyote-skin rug. Meet my shotgun boys!

Forget a 30 rd magazine, I'll use my belt fed 7.62 x 51 Nato with a couple hundred rounds in the box, any day! There is no kill like over kill!

Oh, brother. So now you think you need an assault weapon to get rid of coyotes? Get a grip, gun lover. They never learn. And here is the reason we need both gun controls AND background checks. Including checking for testosterone poisoning:

'Forget a 30 rd magazine, I'll use my belt fed 7.62 x 51 Nato with a couple hundred rounds in the box, any day! There is no kill like over kill!'

Idiot.

Correct, he sounds like a maniac running around with a gun. Look at all the times the idiots shoot themselves..hehe.

A real man would use a bow and arrow, or just a large bowie knife.

I know accomplished hunters and the coyote is dangerous and quick. The Bushmaster is the gun of choice for a LOT of ranchers as well. The standard clip is 10 rounds, extended clips are bought for target shooters or for home defense purposes. Don't think you need a 30 round clip? Go live on the border where drug mules have killed how many? Isn't it ironic the people who put high powered weapons into the hands of criminals via fast and furious are going to make Americans safer while they had no care at all about Mexicans who would die as well as a border patrol agent?

Funnier yet are the people who talk of background checks who have NEVER bought a firearm. We are in the FBI database with the gun and it's serial numbers to our names. Wake up granola munchers.

brutaltruth,

What about all those folks in Virginia that are buying guns from gun dealers who pose as private sellers at the gun shows? They don't have any background checks on their weapons. You can be criminally insane and buy any kind of weapon or magazine or clip or ...

munch ... munch ...

Someone saying you don't need a particular weapon "to do what you need to do" demonstrates the typical arrogance of the anti-gun crowd who insist on pontificating on a subject they know nothing about. It's like someone who's not a carpenter telling a carpenter "A nail gun is not necessary to 'do what you need to do', a hammer is all you need". A weapon used for defensive purposes should be able to perform in the widest variety of scenarios possible, and anyone who's made a serious study of the issue will conclude that a powerful semi-auto with a high-capacity mag & telescopic sight is the most versatile. Are you gonna carry five or six weapons so you'll have the perfect tool for whatever? Forget BB guns, bolt action & lever actions, Biden's shotguns, crossbows, and pepper spray; when it gets down & dirty, get a hunk of 21st century technology in your hand. Don't agree? Fine, use what you think you need, but please don't try to get a law passed to force me to use only what you think is cool.

silverton-2953905

What about all those folks in Virginia that are buying guns from gun dealers who pose as private sellers at the gun shows?................

Have YOU attempted to purchase a firearm at a VA gun show? Even the 20/20 pukes have backtracked on that party line.

Exactly! That's a little detail that people like Robbob can't seem to comprehend...no one is going to take all of his guns!

Use the right tool for the job.

good thing those coyote were not rabid,huh? they would not have stopped with a bb gun.and people wanting to ban guns,LEAVE their guns alone,how about putting that energy into forcing congress to do their job?

Lets say that instead of being behind the door that you are 100 yards away from the house mucking out the horse stalls when the pack shows up. Coyotes have been responsible for the death of a draft cross (1400lbs) at our home a couple years ago. They have taken at least one dog right off the back porch of a neighbor. We listen to them making a kill at least 3 times a week when we just happen to be outside (can't hear it from within the house). Now that's a sound that makes the hair on the back of your neck stand right up. For those that have never witnessed a pack making a kill, I say to you that you have absolutely no idea how difficult a time you would have protecting yourself when they came after you or your loved ones. One bullet per kill on moving targets that can fight back in their way is not how it ends up working. Only those in the armed services that have been under fire have the right to be spouting off with what they think and my bet is that they wouldn't want to be held to less than 10 rounds with no hope of running behind closed doors.

Oh gosh, maybe I should clip a couple more belts onto my belt fed, but darned that would make it heavy, have to fire from the waist, spray and pray, not exactly the Army way, but....if they take down a 1,400lb horse. Don't like coyotes, kill em all, let God sort em out! There is no kill like overkill!

I am a fairly liberal guy, an Obama voter, and I totally agree with you. If I lived where you do I too would want a 30 round clip. No problem. I am a Vietnam-era veteran and have nothing against guns. I do think that citizens don't need armor-piercing rounds. And, I do think that we should make it damn-tough for the nuts and the bad guys to purchase guns. Lastly, criminals who commit a crime while possessing a gun should be hammered by the law.

An AK or AR w/extended mag is an excellent 'yote gun...might not need 30 rounds every time, but have used that many once or twice.

Heck, finished as high as 2nd in National Comp and still went through a whole 30 rd mag once trying to get two 'yotes circling. And even then only managed to get one of them...15 yards from me!

I would like to have some black tips to shoot thru the engine block of those thieves coming around stealing metal to sell, it's become epidemic here. I had new steel stolen from by my house while a was gone, twice. Those darned coyotes! Well, actually last year they got a newborn calf next door, and there is nothing I'd rather do that watch a small calf nurse. Oh, Bill, WELCOME HOME!!!!!

Well Rob, you could build a 'Metal Storm' and use bait set up with a motion sensor, a firing rate of up to 1,000,000 rpm, there is no kill like overkill!

A real man would just loudly run at them. The coyotes wil scatter. I wouldn't be so confident of that appraoch with wolves though:0

BrutalTruth, the biggest wild animal danger, in Texas anyway, is wild pigs. Coyotes? Pfft. A donkey will take care of them, as a previous poster pointed out. I suspect that pack in the article was coydogs, most coyotes have more of a fear of humans than this pack exhibited.

And when you said that

We are in the FBI database with the gun and it's serial numbers to our names.

Wrong. By law, The NCIS is required to destroy all information pertaining to a gun purchase within 24 hours of the background check being completed. From their FAQ page:

Per Title 28, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 25.9(b)(1), (2), and (3), the NICS Section must destroy all identifying information on allowed transactions prior to the start of the next NICS operational day. If a potential purchaser is delayed or denied a firearm and successfully appeals the decision, the NICS Section cannot retain a record of the overturned appeal.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/general-information/fact-sheet

Andy the idiot.

But Andy sure manages to twist a whole lot of "grabber" panties, doesn't he?

Funny.

cbdbdm - My sister in law has had problems with coyotes and her horses too. Got a couple of mules last year and, voila!, no more issues. The mules go at the coyotes instead of running like the horses and will kill them if they can catch them. Coyotes know it too.

Bill from Corvillis,

Why do you say citizens don't need Armor Piercing bullets? Personally, I don't have the ability to look into the future to know if the bad guy will be behind sumpin' and I'll need APs, but I do know from studying shootouts from the past, that quite often opponents will not oblige by stayin' in the open where they're easy targets, but will cover behind/inside vehicles, buildings, walls, doors, trees, dumpsters, etc., and they may be wearing body armor or be behind a plate glass window. One of the most conspicuous failures of a SWAT team sniper was tryin' to take out a hostage taker by shooting through a store-front window with ball ammo (copper coated lead bullet). The shot was at an angle and shattered the window, but deflected and missed the bad guy who subsequently began shooting the hostages. If the sniper had used an AP, he would have been a Hero instead of a Zero.

yes actually, the AR platform is widely used for coyote. dont take my word on it. look it up. and for the uninformed out there. all rounds made for the AR platform are not armor piercing. god you guys are fools. will believe anything that the great news media and the GOV will tell you. evolution is Bliss. some of you missed the train for it i think.

A BB gun for home protection? Who would'a thunk!!!

Two things,

One, This story stiil brings out the anti gun nuts. One person said he would have had a ball bat. Big laught at your ingnorance in dealing with a PACK of wild animanl. I have had experience as I was was growing up where Ferel Dos (doge returned to the wild) attacked people and our farm animals and killed them People in the country carried guns and watched their children if they were young. I have seen the results of a pack of dogs and coyotes after they finished with an animal. I have seen cattle brought down and partially eaten. They were most often devoured from the Gut area and neck first. I was once "Treed" by a pack while hunting at the age of 10-11. I had to shoot several of them before they ran. But the funny thing is that after I shot the first one, the pack mortally attacked the wounded member and killed it.

Second, In several states in the West, they used to have a bounty on Coyotes and that did not stop their successful multiplication in numbers or the migration East. Why are the government officials not working with hunters or government agencies to eradicate this threat to humas. Recently the Ranchers in montana were alloyed to destroy the Wolf population because of the threat to their cattle. These Coyotes are much more brave and unafraid of Humans so theu are therefore a threat to human habitation. Young Children would be a definite addition to their menue. When the food source become scarce in the wild the wild comes a looking for a meal.

Lazarus

There is NO federal database with your name and serial numbers of guns you have purchased in it. None. There are separate and multiple databases with records of things like reported stolen weapons and weapons used in crimes. If a gun turns up during an arrest or investigation feds have to go to the wholesaler then to the retailer to find out who is the registered owner of the gun.

What the heck is a "Bichon-Poo"? When will people stop trying to put lipstick on a pig and call their mutts what they really are?

For some reason I didn't think you were. I believe it is called an AR 15, the AK would be the 47. But don't feel bad the media can't tell the difference either.

Trust me stonepipe2, I don't think most people know the difference between the different types of guns. Paint it black and it must be evil using their uniformed knowledge.

Correct stonepipe

It is called the AK 47 because it was the 47th version of that weapon in its design and development process. The AK 47 fires in semi automatic mode or in fully automatic mode.

As to the AR, the civilian version does not fire fully auto like the AK 47.

The M-16 and its offspring however, look like an AR "styled" rifle, but has a selectable switch to fire fully automatic or semi automatic just like the AK 47. In fully automatic mode, it had a rate of fire of slightly over 700 rounds per minute. I remember when I was the range officer and used to conduct live fire training on the M16 on the firing range that we would demonstrate this cyclic rate of fire by loading a 20 round magazine and pointing the weapon down range. The 20th round would be out the barrel before the first empty brass hit the ground.

Note to Ms. Feinstein. The M-16 is an assault rifle. The AR civilian grade rifles are not, but why let truth get in the way of your agenda?

Feinstein is too stupid to have an agenda. Don't give credit when it isn't due.

GeneralEclectic,

You don't graduate from Stanford University and serve in the Senate for twenty years by being stupid or lacking an agenda.

But your statement DOES imply ignorance. Try to work a little harder on your argument. Otherwise it is just a wasted post.

Well, let's just say that I like Ms. Feinstein's way of trying to fix the problem better than the NRA's way of NOT trying to fix it.

And she also packs heat herself, as does her security staff.

Good for her!

I am all for stricter gun laws, universal background checks, etc. and I am thinking about buying another weapon myself. I haven't owned a gun in many years, but I think I might need to defend myself against some of the crazy NRA nuts out there.

Hummmmm Steve ...

Lets just "modify" the situation just a tad ... and being in suburban Chicago, with a pack of coyotes, the Area is rural and the predators are a well armed biker gang ...

You gonna protect yourself and family with a baseball bat or a BB gun?

If police and military have access to a weapon ... so should any citizen ..that is what the constitution meant and says! ..

When our government becomes trustworthy again ... reintroduce the subject BUT ..the vast majority of Americans simply DON"T TRUST OUR GOVERNMENT ..(Nothing to do with any political party considerations) and will never willingly give up the right to bear arms !

Never heard of a AK 15. Is that a half AK and half AR15? And never heard of a magazine that can hold 50 rds. Maybe a drum but not a magazine.

the horribly misinformed thinking they have the right to tell people what they "NEED" or not,you guys suck.how about we start telling you what you need or don't need.and don't come back with we are already by wanting to keep our guns,you don't need it,don't get it. the crime argument is passe,as you are not even going in a remotely close direction. go after the gangs or shut up about the "gun violence" you are screeming about. what if this was a pack of 12 or more and they were REALLY HUNGRY? i for one am thankful his bb gun turned them away but what if people? as said above"i would rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it."

If you think that the coyotes are getting to be a problem just wait until their big brother the Yellowstone wolves show up. hey were wiped out once for a reason and the tree huggers just had to have them back. Now they are now 4-500 hundred miles from Yellowstone and still expanding, coming soon to your neighborhood.

I would think all those gun enthusiasts and hunters out there near Yellowstone would be giddy with excitement to have open season on wolves once in a while.

Heck, the gun-loving hunters around here would have the whole thing stuffed and put in their living room if they got the chance to shoot a wolf, and then have their photos displayed at the Bass Pro Shop.

Glenn #3.3 "The 20th round would be out the barrel before the first empty brass hit the ground." How true. The M-16 is quite remarkable,in more ways than one.

Feinstein: Communist. Can't have a fascist or communist government when the populace is armed. I'm sorry, but I look at all the oppressive governed countries and NOT ONE is even close to the prosperity of the FREE United States.

I will not vote for any politician who supports gun control ever again. I feel that 80 million gun owners are the same. This will be particularly damaging to the Democratic Party.

I wish there were a third (non Royal) party to vote for.

I wish there was a third party too, but one with reasonable gun laws, and no fanatic fringe groups on the left or right.

@Dav1 & Silverton - Check out the Libertarian party.

Thanks, win308165,

althought the Libertarian Party has some good middle of the road ideas, they do not support any gun control that I am aware of. So, it might be a good fit for some like Dav1, but not for someone like me.

I would like to see reasonable guns laws enacted and enforced.

Dav1bg

You might also check out the difference between gun CONTROL and a gun BAN. There actually is one.

Libertarians have a few good ideas, but they also have some really off the wall ideas. We need a third party that sits somewhere the RWNJ's and the LWNJ's. Yes you Democrats have your share of NJ's too.

so you're saying a bb gun is adequate defense against a 75 lb rabid coyote? I think I'll take a AK or an AR just to be on the safe side. You have NO idea how nasty a rabid animal is. I'll put money on a 75 lb rabid coyote against you with your red rider anyday..hell I'd even put money on a 25 lb rabid raccoon against your red rider. I guarentee you'll be in the emergency room in either situation with serious serious wounds (along with rabies shots) and you may be in the morgue when the coyote comes at you.

Lol wow. BB gun is not adequate at all. So you think just scaring the coyote away is ok? What if it comes back and kill your or neighbor's kids or pets?

It's to best fix it the first time around and kill the crazed coyote.

while working at my dads' this summer,we had a rabid fox running around(got the kids inside) laying block on the woods side of the house, i asked dad to bring me a gun and i would kill it. he came back with a bb gun, i shot that fox about 10 times,hitting it probably 9,thing just looked back at me,shot and hit in the face twice,just looked at me,then walked around house and got the 22 rifle out of the garage and killed the little guy(finally, guns ARE NEEDED folks) maybe YOU don't need them but how do YOU KNOW others don't?

@!$%#_you,... You may be right, some people may need guns. The problem we are faced with though is an excess of guns and the domestic arms race fueled by the gun lobby. I don't want easy access to guns where I live, that is why we have a police department and an animal control unit. But paranoia seems to rule the gun nuts in our country and that disease is wildly spreading out of control. The NRA and its most rabid members would do well to put a sock in it.

There is no justification here for any assault rifle or large capacity magazine.

Oh? That model BB gun holds 19 BBs. That's high capacity.

"I don't want easy access to guns where I live. That is why we have the police dept. and an animal control unit." Spoken like a true nanny state sheeple. Must be very "highly educated". Those who are willing to sacrifice liberty for security will end up with neither!

PS How are the Chicago PD and animal control doing in this case?

win308165... Gun nuts are so fond of the 2nd amendment while I and many others prefer "promote the domestic tranquility..." When is the last time you heard that phrase come out of NRA spokesmen? And seeing as how state boarders are essentially meaningless it doesn't take a highly educated person to realize local gun laws put in place in a sense of desperation essentially self fulfill the NRA Strangelove mantra, "When Guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns." I don't want or need to have a gun in my house because I may be tempted to use it and it wouldn't be against a coyote. There are many other pack animals in this country that need culling but for the time being I'll just have to depend upon the 1st amendment to let them know what I think of them.

I just hope for your sake, that one of them doesn't take offense to your first amendment expressions, and give you real cause to need the second. I don't agree with you, and I'll keep my guns thank you very much, but you, are entitled to your opinion. Just so you know, me and my guns stand ready to insure you keep that right, something which your ranting won't do. It's ok, no need to thank us, we too believe in freedom, for everyone, even those who won't fight for it.

I live in a residential neighborhood of a large city, with houses less than 50 feet apart, and yet coyotes frequently snatch pet cats at night. However, i would rather have that problem than to have a well-armed neighbor firing off rounds from his rifle through his front door at threatening coyotes. Shooting at agile targets like those, he would be almost certain to put some of those bullet through a neighbor's house.

I've owned a gun for 50 years. Yet when I read the gun lover posts here, there seems to be a level of insanity almost equal to that fanatical religious zealots. It is as if the devil is just around the corner and if they don't have their semi-automatic with them they will be swept off to hell. Or the black helicopters are hovering just behind the hill and if the populace is not armed to the teeth, they'll be dragged off to the concentration camps. And not only that, we find that there are rabid 75 pound coyotes out there, behind the bush. Grrr.

I'll tell you, that's one damn big coyote! Bigger, in fact, than 99.9999% of coyotes ever weighed. Yet such are the beasts that flit through the fevered nightmares of the gun worshipers.

So it seems to me that the posts of the gun fundamentalists make up one of the best arguments going for strict gun controls, including universal background checks, federal registration/licensing of guns, and the banning of auto and semi-automatic weapons.

As to the argument that your pea shooters are keeping you free of a tyrannical government, this is pure delusion. So the inevitable massacres will continue because Americans are too stupid or too irrational to solve relatively simple problems.

But watch out! That 75 pound rabid coyote will soon be in your backyard.

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away (even the best police force in the country.) Animal Control takes longer, especially for wild animals. Most local animal control units (if there is one in your area) are limited to domestic animals - they defer to the state wildlife agency for wild animals.

In Wyoming there were regular reports from the state fish and game department of coyotes up to 80 lbs. I have seen and shot coyotes in Wisconsin that weighed 75 lbs. Coy-dogs can be larger than that. If some one wants to call animal control for coyotes, they are free to do so. Just don't hold your breath for them to respond. Unless you live in an area where you can shoot with out endangering your neighbors, you don't shoot unless it is a life or death situation. That holds with any threat whether from animal or human. Not too many legal gun owners are willing to just shoot at anything that moves. In fact most of us don't want to kill anything just because we can, there has to be a purpose for shooting. Either for food or for eliminating a direct and immediate threat to persons or pets/live stock.

A long while back I was walking along a trail hunting elk. On the way back down the trail I looked down at my footprints in the snow and over the top of them were a set mountain lion prints. It was a very spooky feeling. Since then, I've always carried a gun whenever I go hiking. I just don't trust animal control to get there in time if I needed them. I also don't think the three 15 round magazines I carry are too great a precaution to take. I'm sort of attached to my skin (I've had it a long time).

Bobaloo... Just so you don't get the wrong idea, I grew up with guns in Wisconsin before the Kennedy administration. My brother had a shotgun and 22 hanging above his bed on a gun rack built in a school project. In the army in Europe I carried the 7.62 mm M-14 rifle that I could shoot with some accuracy to 300 meters with open sights. I enjoyed guns at that time and even now would like to have that weapon to play with. But here on the East Coast with its high density population, I don't see it as a good idea. I don't like shooting animals as that seems like an awfully cruel thing to do to a creature who is only trying to make a living. It would be just about useless in a home invasion. I suppose a hand gun would be better for that, but one must take into account that moments of terror are offset by years of uneventful boredom. The most likely outcome would be that some invader running on adrenalin would rouse you from your slumber, take your Glock, and beat you senseless with it. I don't even know what the local requirements are for possessing a gun around here. I can't say that I am a hunter because I am not. Home protection, I think guns counter productive to that task. The only reason I would like to have a rifle would be for long range target practice and for me that skill does not justify the effort. The final reason for arming ones household is getting swept up in a paranoia driven domestic arms race. In other words I would need an AR-15 because a bunch of my neighbors have military styled arsenals and they don't appear to be sane to me. The only thing I request from the NRA and its followers is a bit of common sense. Don't force a domestic MAD policy upon America.

The most likely outcome would be that some invader running on adrenalin would rouse you from your slumber, take your Glock, and beat you senseless with it.

This is totally not true. There are absolutely no data to back up this claim.

a bunch of my neighbors have military styled arsenals

Styled is the key word there. AR-15s are not military weapons. They are military "styled" weapons. They just look like military weapons.

Learn to live with it. They need to live, too. Good grief but humans are nasty things.

Shiboof , I think you need to come out of your Obama induced fantacy and realise that the real world is indeed a nasty place. There is no place for packs of wild coyotes in an urban environment! As BigBearcatBill pointed out they are not endangered.

BigBearcatBill---Possums ar a southern food--also squriell--fried and the best part is the brain--has to be sucked out of the skull or the brain will fall apart--Rabbit--we raised them to eat--dispatched with a club--hides were nailed to the wall of the out house to dry--the white rabbits had pink eyes--the wild rabbits--you could not eat the swamp rabbit--but the cotton tail was ok to fry up--the cooter soft shell turtle was a good food source--hunted them with a pitch fork in the water--have to be careful and not swallow a toe nail--Honest Abe Lincoln runied all that in 1861--1865---all free labor gone--the yankee has now taken all of our southern state---and then they talk like the wolf will harm people--get out of the stone age yankees---all yankees should have a skunk wrapped around their necks

Shiboof would probably prefer a Rabid Animal or a Raccoon with a severe case of Mange over Human Safety. A Pig Avatar with Lipstick says it all!

Alan Fischer

BigBearcatBill---Possums ar a southern food--also squriell--fried and the best part is the brain--has to be sucked out of the skull or the brain will fall apart--Rabbit--we raised them to eat--dispatched with a club--hides were nailed to the wall of the out house to dry--the white rabbits had pink eyes--the wild rabbits--you could not eat the swamp rabbit--but the cotton tail was ok to fry up--the cooter soft shell turtle was a good food source--hunted them with a pitch fork in the water--have to be careful and not swallow a toe nail--Honest Abe Lincoln runied all that in 1861--1865---all free labor gone--the yankee has now taken all of our southern state---and then they talk like the wolf will harm people--get out of the stone age yankees---all yankees should have a skunk wrapped around their necks

I find it ironic that the guy telling yankees to get out of the stone age is telling people how to eat squirrels.

Packs of wild animals running around terrorizing people, sounds like a day that ends in Y on the south side

what's wrong with squirrel? those greys' up heeyah in mayun are purty tasty little critters,the reds' don't taste that great but those fat little greys', oh man, dem dare greys' is gud eatin' mistah!

If feral cats only killed rats, mice and other vermin. They also kill in great numbers - pheasants, quail, dove partridge, ducks, chickens etc . etc. as well as any and all song birds you care to imagine. Kill all feral cats on sight. Talk about an invasive species.

Oh, BTW Feral cats make great coyote bait if you are interested in baiting a coyote in for the kill.

Shoot on sight all feral animals, especially cats. Housecats kill alot more than mice and rats when let to roam free. Cats can also spread disease throughout the ecosystem. Personally have killed multiple 70 lb coydogs over the last couple years(verified by dna tests) and feral dogs. Racoons, coys, and skunks all carrying rabies, distemper, parovirus, andenovirus, etc which can be transmitted to pets and humans also. A semi-aoto with a large magazine is the best medicine for reducing a coy pack in a hurry, and those damn kitty cats are hard to hit!!

@Joebob- couldn't agree more!!

You people are disgusting excuses for human beings.

Never watch NASCAR. What i do know after having a run in with coyotes I would rather have too much gun and too much ammo then nothing or worse a BB gun which would tend to just piss them off. Even worse then coyotes is feral hogs which will be coming most everyone's way soon.

nascar,haha,is that what you think? personally, i don't have any time or desire to watch cars go around in a circle for hours. we should probably ban that too,right? i don't NEED NASCAR,so we should ban it right? dummies

Personally have killed many coys at midday.

Mike, take another hit and stay off the posts, coyotes hunt 24/7. That was the dumbest post I've seen this week. Why show the public what an idiot you are?

Another example of a human not understanding their ecosystem.

If anything, it sound more like you don't understand your ecosystem. You are food for other animals. You are also the target for aggression from other humans. Limiting your ability to defend yourself could probably be considered natural selection weeding out defective mental attitudes.

"Ecosystem"? Are your for real? My sister lives in a subdivision on the Illinois side of metro St Louis. There are woods (and an active quarry) behind the houses, so there is plenty of wildlife: deer, fox, coyote, raccoon, even bobcat. She mentioned one day seeing several coyotes sitting quietly watching the cars & construction vehicles driving up and down her street. They weren't in the woods, they were near the street, in one of the vacant lots. Down the street, children were out playing in their yards. IT WAS DAYTIME!!! Obviously, they weren't hungry, just curious (or wanting to be entertained?), but you should never generalize or predict the actions of wild animals, or humans for that matter.

Mike you are a perfect profile for bowing down in ovomits lap ignorant comments like yours need ignorant replies but then you are probably a rabid dimowit anyhow sure hope you live in a area that isnt patrolled very much and your next door neighbor puts a sign in his yard with a arrow pointing at yours explaining you are a gun hater have fun with that!

Oh, by the way, Mike, you just insulted gun owners and NASCAR viewers with one statement. Isn't that a form of bigotry? Isn't that a big no-no? But I suppose certain types of bigotry are OK, depending on who's doing the trash talk . . . .

Man down sasquatch which is what you would be if facing a bear or pack of coyote without a suitable weapon. Trust me you can not run that fast. For the most part you leave them alone they leave you alone but I would not bet your life on it.

are you in the united states? we've been having wildlife problems since coming here,so...what's that about? and man up chicken little? i'll bet you don't go to the grocery store and buy meat,right? you think that comes from heaven knucklehead? where do you suppose we should raise these animals you eat? new york city? man up piss ant!

When I was growing up and became an adult there was no coyotes to worry about. We lived in the country with woods and farm land around us. We had to worry about rabid animals and snakes in the yard. We did not encroach on the coyotes, they are a danger and a pest now. There was not any animals in our area that hunted in packs. The coyotes have now increased to packs of 20 or more now. To protect my family and livestock this also increases the need for more firepower not less.

So "nothing else" considers the corrupt and gang-bangers of Chitcago wildlife? Where do I buy my license? Is it one per tag? How long does the season run?

No Win you get a season long license and no limit!

My wife did the same thing when she found out about the massage girl.

Not sure what state you live in but if any of those animals cause damage to property or threaten you or your family you can blast them.

I live in the country with coons, skunks, rabits and everything else under the sun but the only thing I have shot and killed are coyotes.

I live in Virginia where national forest lands comprise a portion of our land; all of the county is dotted with farms - livestock and poultry - and coyotes have been an increasing threat, wandering into the suburban neighborhoods regularly. I see them in the early morning quite frequently. However; the county has taken a proactive approach to the threat by enacting a bounty on the coyote from time to time, making it LEGAL to hunt the vermin and paying for their control. It does not eliminate them, they are much too plentiful, but it does keep the population in check.

Some of the municipalities have had to sanction extended hunting season on deer, as well ... deer, too, do a lot of damage in a suburban setting, property damage and accidents, when the herds wander freely through the neighborhoods and city streets. The meat is then donated to food banks and shelters.

I had a friend who was trying to start a small cattle herd, after a couple years he never got a single calf to survive. So he got someone to trap coyotes for him; even though he had never seen a single coyote. The first week they trapped 24 coyotes, and got another 15 the next week. So if you are seeing coyotes then there must be a lot of coyotes around.

Put a pan of anti freeze out they like the taste best known poison for them but chances are you will have other critters dead in your yard!

dav1bg-right on man,if you're seeing them around the house, it's time to go hunting,call some friends and clean some out.

30 rounds are not meant for hunting they are nice when just target shooting. Especially someone with dexterity problems in the fingers which makes frequent loading less painful. Bit of a cliché' but you need the right gun for the game. Now just because Annie Oakley can drop a bear with one shot through the eye does not mean everyone can do it. You have one round and you miss you become the hunted not the hunter.

Although I believe he was joking to a certain point, I'm sure when faced with a packed of mind set coyotes frothing and snarling at your back door, you'd want to do more than ready, aim, fire.

I was in the family room when I heard a dog fight going on under our deck. When I went out to see what was going on, I found our neighbor's dog in a vicious fight with a coyote. Two others were standing back watching.

When they finally noticed me (after much yelling & screaming) they all took off into the bush; the coyotes, the dog and my orange tabby cat right after them.

The coyotes then circled the pond and the one that had instigated the original fight, was coming across the ice ready to take on our neighbor's dog again. By this time I had my husband up. When he shot the closer, more aggresive one, the other two took off.

We called a local guy who traps coyotes, and he came and set a bunch of traps (well away from the house) In a 2 week period, he trapped over two dozen coyotes.

The coyotes are bad again this year. Also, in our part of Nebraska, they very mangy. This might make them a little more unpredictable.

Normally, coyotes are more afraid of you than the other way around. But when they're onto prey, all bets are off. Be careful and be aware. The lives of your pets depend on you.

Wolfhound,First off the weapon you had in Nam is not outside of looks the same as the ones you can buy, the ones in Nam had a Full Auto selector the ones we buy leagally do not unless you pay the fee to the Goverment to have a Full auto license and I dont think you want that! Way to many questions about you way lot more than we had back in the 60's to join the army or anyother branch.

Thank you Walt! Chicago truly is a haven for criminals,illegals and huge deficits. So glad Obama will have another four years to clear all this up for us lowly taxpayers.

Thanks Walt I needed the laugh I am in N. In. not far from that rats nest called hellinois and there crap flows this way too often Thank God I live in a state where I can defend myself and family!

Your a Liberal Democrat and you have a gun? Obama will get you

Dandy416,

Good shot.. :-)

As for me I never use an Assault rifle to shoot at vermin, I find the range a little excessive.. Besides a good Mossberg 12 gauge pump with 3.5" Magnums Triple 00 buck seems to scare or kill anything I shoot at. And I don't have to worry about my neighbors home getting struck with a stray bullet a 1/2 mile away. People common sense with weapons please. When I was in combat I used weapons like the one I'm photo'd in, it was necessary. When at home and being attacked by a group of unruly squirrels a shotgun makes them flee and has a very short range of damage.

Die hard Constitutionalist, SF Combat Vet, 6th generation "red-neck" Texan.. :-)

Tell you what Grandnapper. Why don't you go and explain how funny this all is to the parents of the dead Newtown children who are out marching with the "Anti gun" crowd. I'm sure they could use the "entertainment value".

Grandnapper- For some reason that is so true in the AR-15's, but not so much in the "Russian" 30 caliber rifles. I'm not sure why that is. Perhaps it the tighter tolerances used in the AR's. Anyone else here have a thought on this? I mean anyone that knows what the difference between an assault rifle and a civilian semi-automatic AR-15 that is.

you're probably correct in your assumption justapilot

AK actually has looser tolerances than AR. Jamming with high cap mags usually due to weak mag spring generally caused by letting mag sit a long time loaded or cheap crap. Gas piston AR (similar design to AK) also less prone to misfeeding. Gas impingment ARs need to be cleaned quite often, especially with cheaper ammo. Also soft or hollow point bullets seem to misfeed most often.

Proof of wolves and coys interbreeding? Know for sure dogs and coys interbreeding in the wild, which does generally result in an animal not very afraid of humans or canines.

Rob, the coyotes here in So. Cal are the same as in most of the Southwest, but once they invade more populated areas they lose their fear of humans quickly. There are many neighborhoods in urban areas where packs can be seen roaming every night, and they'll ignore all attempts to scare them off.

Seems like if coyotes and wolves were breeding they'd have produced a hybrid species long ago.

They will keep coming back for dessert.

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

rex- upeeya in mayun days 45 minuts way,ifin day aint on anuder call sumware else,we'all don need dem dare rifles,we tro stiks at 'em ifin we havum,if nut we tro a meen rok mistah,yessah! we'all uppin da kuntree heer in mayun wants to tank yuse guys fer tri-in to tak ar rites awaa,we no dem dare crimnuls aint gut nuttin to do wid dis heer gun vilins,rite folks?

This is very simple, they're hungry and running out food for there youngs. We have limited there space and food resources. SO , what would you do if you're hungry and have little ones crying to you for food? I Call it survivor, just like any other species. They're HUNGRY.

Kill as many coyotes as you can and help solve the problem where they were brought in the first place. If you had a roach or rat problem I would hope you eliminate them. I don't believe in animal cruelity, but coyotes are way to overpopulated and have become a danger to everything. The gopher tortoise is almost extinct because of coyotes.

TITUS, The problem with coyotes is not that we have limited their (note the correct use of their not there) space and food resources, but that they have severely overpopulated. The coyote population in North America is estimated to be at an all-time high. (per Nat. Geo.) They now populate areas where they were never found before. Humans haven't encroached on their territory, they've encroached on ours!

SUZ722-----Sad to the United States go down the road of ancient Rome----American troops sprea around the world with no troops to protect Americans from the millions of illegals and homosexuality---Obama and Biden want to take my mony--I have worked since I was fourteen--raising orange trees--Hardee County--I know alot of people who will not work--to easy to get food stamps--supplementary social security--medicaid--subdized housing---free phone---millions of illegals have taken American jobs--but Obama says that these illegals come to America to better themselves--Obama HE IS--as the old saying goes---A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING

I am an animal lover, until it comes to the coyote. This vermin makes my blood run cold. I know they have to eat too, but fence or no fence these detestible creatures go after our beloved pets for a quick snack and I'm sick of it!!!!Coyotes are a menace to society and should be distroyed!.... Plus their fur makes a beautiful coat.

Suzi,my mother used to be married to an oilman who owned a few thousand acres in north Texas. She learned how to shoot and killed enough coyotes to make a full length coat. You're right, it was beautiful.

That said I kind of admire them. They've taken everything we can throw at them and still their population grows. Love them or hate them you have to admit that they know how to survive.