‘Totally lost’: Chicago woman loses fourth child to gun violence

At least five people were gunned down Saturday in Chicago, including a 34-year-old man whose mother had already lost her three other children to shootings.


Ronnie Chambers, who was his mother Shirley's youngest child, was shot in the head while sitting in a parked car on the city's West Side. A 21-year-old man who was also in the car was wounded, police said.

Shirley Chambers, whose two other sons and daughter were shot in separate attacks more than a decade ago, was left grieving again on Saturday, WLS-TV reported.


"Right now, I'm totally lost because Ronnie was my only surviving son," Chambers said.

Shirley Chambers' first child, Carlos, was shot and killed by a high school classmate in 1995 after an argument. He was 18. Her daughter Latoya, then 15, and her other son Jerome were shot and killed within months of one another in 2000.

"What did I do wrong? I was there for them. We didn't have everything we wanted but we had what we needed," she asked Saturday.

Chambers said despite this latest tragic chapter in her life, she's not bitter or angry.

"They took my only child. I have nobody right now. That's my only baby," she said.

A few hours after Ronnie Chambers was killed, a gunman opened fire on three men near a South Side eatery, killing two of them and wounding the third, police said.

On Saturday afternoon, detectives were called to the scene of another shooting in which a man in his 30s and a teenager were shot to death. There had been no arrests.

Chicago's homicide count eclipsed 500 last year for the first time since 2008. Although grim, Chicago's homicide rate was nearly double that in the early 1990s — averaging around 900 — before violent crime began dropping in cities across America.

Last year's increase, though, stood in sharp contrast to New York City, where homicides fell 21 percent from 2011.

-- Reporting by The Associated Press

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I just have to quote Fed Up, because it was that good. This is a message I've been preaching for some time, but Fed Up says it very well:

"What did I do wrong?" she asked... well how about.....

you let the same old Good Ole Boy Democrats that used to burn crosses on your lawn and take your men out in the woods and hang them... who put you in the back of the bus... who made you eat at separate counters and drink at separate water fountains...

you let them lead you "eyes open" onto the New Welfare Ghetto Plantation... you get free stuff, free food, and free health care... also rat and roach infested section 8 housing, schools that educate you at a fourth grade level if you're lucky, rampant crime, and rampant drugs... oh, and to keep you there, they've hellped you flip your values upside down... dropping out of school is "cool", work is for "suckers", anyone who does escape from the Ghetto and becomes successful is an "Uncle Tom", not just rich people, but all successful people are "evil"... the Welfare structure is designed to break up your families, and leave single Moms holding the bag for raising children with Uncle Sam as the father and provider, and of course, it goes without saying that all Honkies are keeping you down... with that mentaility those Good Ole Boys know that the odds of escape from their Ghetto prison are about half a percent...

Sure, they don't have you picking cotton anymore... but now it's not your body, but your mind that's in chains.... I think Dr King would be appalled at the new slavery the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have sold you into...

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Reply#594 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:39 PM EST

It is tragic, that only 150 years after so many hard-working blue-collar middle-class conservative Republicans (like President Abraham Lincoln) laid down their very lives to free the blacks from their rich elitist pseudo-intelletual liberal DemoKKKrat slave owners, that the DemoKKKrat party has managed to fool so many blacks into once again becoming enslaved to the DemoKKKrat party.

And they did it by using a Harvard educated millionaire attorney lifetime career politician who is so out of touch with the middle class, he thinks there are more than 57 states in the union. They voted for him purely because they think he's black, but the truth is, his mother is completely white- he is no more black than he is white.

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#594.1 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:45 PM EST

Republican President Abraham Lincoln was assassinated by DemoKKKrat John Wilkes Booth, in retaliation for the Republicans freeing the blacks from their DemoKKKrat slave owners.

Republican civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated by DemoKKKrat James Earl Ray, for Dr. King's position on black rights.

DemoKKKrat John Hinkley Jr. attempted to assassinate Republican President Ronald Reagan, who led the Republicans to create the MLK holiday.

And yet the DemoKKKrats have still managed to fool the majority of blacks into voting for them, by using a half-black presidential candidate as a front man.

  • 3 votes
#594.2 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:46 PM EST

DemoKKKrats conduct their War Against Women, Children, Minorities, and the Poor, through "Planned Parenthood", the BILLION dollar a year for-profit abortuary chain founded by Nazi eugenicist Margaret Sanger as a way to control the black population.

Fully 70% of the infanticides committed by aborticians there, are committed against black victims.

They've even been caught accepting donations earmarked specifically to murder only black babies.

And after 230+ years, blacks still only make up about 12% of the population.

And yet the DemoKKKrats have still managed to fool the majority of blacks into voting for them, by using a half-black presidential candidate as a front man.

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#594.3 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:47 PM EST

The Ku Klux Klan has always served as the militant arm of the DemoKKKrat party, all the way back to DemoKKKrat Grand Wizard Nathan Bedford Forrest.

And although the DemoKKKrats will try to play it off, this ain't exactly ancient history either- DemoKKKrat Senator Robert Byrd served in office for over 60 years, never losing an election. The DemoKKKrats would STILL be voting his Klan butt back into office, but he died of old age recently (at the age of 92), still in office.

Look it up.

  • 3 votes
#594.4 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:48 PM EST

The DemoKKKrat part is the largest hate organization currently operating in America.

When will the blacks realize that they're being played by them.

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#594.5 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:51 PM EST

The same day you realize that your comments above are ignorant at best. DemoKKKrat? Really? KKK with a black POTUS? LMAO!!! If the Dems are so called KKK. Then RepubliCON (artists) are capitalist war mongers. Sending innocents to their death so they can make a quick buck. At least I'm just playing around. You may actually be serious. You don't own any guns do you???

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#594.6 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:10 AM EST

Barack Hussein is no more black than he is white.

And yes, it is a well-documented fact that the Ku Klux Klan has served ONLY the DemoKKKrat party, since it's inception.

Do you have some actual argument to put up, or are you just bitter about being made aware of the truth?

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#594.7 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:55 AM EST
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OK, so in Connecticut, 19 white children and one black were killed by a gunman, and Obama and Feinsein want to outlaw the second amendment. But 500 mostly black children are killed in Chicago, and nothing is said - just maybe because Rahmbo and O'bammy have already outlawed them there? Racism, maybe? Or just that since the mayor, congressmen and prez are all Democrat, there is nobody that they can blame? Surely with all the benefits and entitlements they have handed out, everybody in Chicago should be happy, carefree citizens? Or could it be, just maybe, that all this smoke and mirrors doesn't work, and that people working and carrying guns actually have less crime?

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Reply#595 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:45 PM EST

Feinswine is white. Barack Hussein is half white.

I suspect that they valued 19 white children more highly than 500 black people, because they're racists. They certainly represent the party of racism- the DemoKKKrat party.

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#595.1 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:55 PM EST
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All my baby was doing is slinging a little dope,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,why did they shoot him?

When you raise criminals and scumbags, this sort of thing happens.

536 people killed in Chicago last year. If the Department of Justice stats hold true,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,70% were felons or criminals in the act of a crime.

3% were with a rifle of any kind and less than half of them were so called, assault rifles".

Why doesn't this upset Democrats and cause them to demand a gun ban???

These people are not white,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,democrats really get upset when white, liberal, leftist children from well to do families get killed.

When black inner-city kids get killed, they could care less. There is no danger of losing your vote if you are an inner-city welfare parasite so there is no reason to act.

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Reply#596 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:47 PM EST

The DemoKKKrat's "entitlement" programs render the black man impotent in his own family- he has no value, because there is no need for him.

And with all the government hand-outs, there is no reason to actually be a man, by getting a job to support yourself and your family.

The resulting lack of self-worth, multiplied by many generations of welfare mooches, brings us to where we are today.

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Reply#597 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:11 PM EST

The DemoKKKrats just pack them like rats into roach-infested Section-8 housing projects, toss them an occassional block of government cheese, and only take them out on voting day.

How the blacks fall for this, is beyond comprehension.

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#597.1 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:13 PM EST

And I suppose "Where we are today", has NOTHING to do with 2 unfunded wars by your beloved Bush? You know, the guy who sent thousands of innocent Americans to their death because he thought they had WMD's over seas. Or it could have been to drive up the price of oil, since he is an oil man himself, to make some quick cash? Just a thought.

    #597.2 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:21 AM EST

    Bush? You know, the guy who sent thousands of innocent Americans to their death

    630 soldiers lost their lives in Afghanistan under President Bush.

    1324 soldiers (so far) have lost their lives in Afghanistan under Barack Hussein. That's more than TWICE as many.

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    #597.3 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:23 AM EST
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    This cannot be???? Home of "Mr. Gun Control I will not let you down" Barry Obama? This does not compute - more gun control = less murders/violence. I am confused,,,oh,,,,I forgot,,,,,it is GW's fault!

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    Reply#598 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:25 PM EST

    Being that America was founded by Christians fleeing religious persecution (from the state church in England), we believe that man was created in God's likeness, and that God doesn't make mistakes. This is reflected in Republican Thomas Jefferson's words in The Declaration Of Independance, "...all men are created equal.".

    Republicans welcome the blacks, with open arms. We have no problem with a black president- an ACTUAL black president, as opposed to the guy born to a white mother that the DemoKKKrats used to fool black voters with. Alan Keyes is COMPLETELY black, and he would do a MUCH better job than Barack Hussein.

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    Reply#599 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:27 PM EST

    Do not interfere with social Darwinism Chicago-style.

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    Reply#600 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:32 PM EST

    You people are sick individuals

      Reply#601 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:51 PM EST

      If semiautomatic rifles with 30 round magazines are not need for personal protection, why is the DHS buying 7000 Assault Rifles (Fully Automatic) with at least 30 round magazines and classifying them as Personal Defense Weapons?

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      Reply#602 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:34 PM EST

      The fact is we'll never know if sweeping gun legislation will help or not (even though it's done a great job of cutting down gun violence in Austrailia) because it won't happen in a country that loves its guns and lovs its violence.

      Chicago aside, just about every, if not every, mass shooting that we've seen (Columbine, Aurora, and the most recent one in CT have been committed by angry, white young men who have access to family guns. So here's a thought, let's hold the parents/guardians responsible for what these lovely youngsters are doing. Maybe then responsible gun owners would actually act responsibly.

        Reply#603 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:06 PM EST

        You lie about Austrailia.

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        #603.1 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:25 PM EST

        Australia gun ban, 19% of their homicides are committed with
        firearms, criminals don’t obey laws they still get guns.

        35 % of their homicides are with knife, these are mostly the
        domestic disputes, and not having guns didn’t stop the killing. We are way lower
        in knife deaths

        8% baseball bats and similar weapons, the killings go on.

        55% of the homicides happen in the home, those that aren’t
        domestic disputes were defenseless individuals without guns to protect
        themselves Australia gun ban aids the criminals.

        24% of the homicides in the streets, again Australia gun ban
        helping the criminals.

        Do they have fewer murders than us? Of course they do they
        are far more civilized than we are as a people. Does the Gun ban protect their
        people? The ones that want to commit crime without the fear of being killed, so
        yes.

        My question is whom are we trying to protect with gun bans.

        And for those who are going to say I’m making these stats up
        you can easily find them they change slightly by year, but this is it. I wait
        for you to let me know how to interpret them differently.

        It’s reported that gun are used in the U.S. two million times a
        year to prevent crime, bodily harm. No way to verify that it’s a pole way to
        subjective, But if it is only 5% of that it is a hundred thousand live saved.
        I’m not seeing the positive side to banning guns

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        #603.2 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:51 PM EST
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        ....let me guess....he was black!!.............

        Although their were no photos with this story -I can just take it a wild guess and picture this happening in the ghetto.

        This is a sad commentary for Obama.....he just lost another constituent!! But we just saved money as he can no longer get food stamps, welfare, free cell phones, etc. Oh, I'm sorry....his mom will not report the death....so the benefits keep coming!!!

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        Reply#604 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:58 PM EST

        I thought the great Obama fixed Chicago? Or did he just pimp idiots for his own gain?

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        Reply#605 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:48 PM EST

        Lets have the background of all these "kids" I'll bet they were hoodlum gang members killed in some sort of turf war. Not just poor innocent good children.

        PS: Strange there is no mention of a "Mr. Chambers"; don't suppose this was the reason her kids ran wild?

        Chicago has gun restrictions and I'll bet the guns used were not legally obtained.

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        Reply#606 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:23 PM EST

        Lost in all this political rhetoric is the fact that Shirley Chambers has lost her child. She has lost all her children. I lost a child many years ago, not to violence but in a car accident. Shirley, my heart goes out to you. Your loses are

        devastating. I hope you find the strength to carry on. My deepest sympathy is with you at this time. I have four adult children and cannot imagine what your loss must feel like. Please take care.SFR

          Reply#607 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:55 PM EST

          Lost in all this political rhetoric is the fact that Shirley Chambers has lost her last child. Shirley, I lost a child, not to violence but a car accident years ago. I understand your pain. Please find the strength to carry on. My deepest sympathy is with you at this time. May you find quiet and calm and a brighter future in your life. I don't care if you are Black or White, live in the inner city or suburbs, are rich or poor - burying 4 children is too much for any mother. Please take care of yourself. SFR

            Reply#608 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:02 PM EST

            Chicago,what a great example.The libtards know it all of us in reallity know it.Gun control will never work.Litards will not be happy until they control every thing about all our lives (that includes libtard supporters too), Piers Morgan said to the NRA chief (youre an incredibly stupid man arent you),well I say to him,you are an incredibly cowardly man(and I use the term man loosely).A libterd like that ,lets just say if he and his kids were in say YellowStone National Park hiking and a bear started chasing them ,he would trip one his own kids to get away.Libterds are cowards and they want everybody else to be cowards too.Well I have some bad news for you libtards ,AINT GONNA HAPPEN!You can have my gun when you prye it from MY COLD DEAD FINGERS! Not too worry though you are petrified of guns ! BTW. liberals are killing our once great nation .We can do something about ,next election vote these coward takers out . Protect your family protect your property dont trust the government .

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            Reply#609 - Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:52 PM EST

            Wait!...Isn't Illinois one of the fine states that doesn't allow the permit to carry?? If they don't allow guns in Chi-town,....how could this happen?! Oh, that's right,....only law abiding citizens can't have a gun,..the crooks can have all they can get their hands on. I'd hazard a guess that gun contol isn't working for them,....and it won't work for any other state for that matter.

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            Reply#610 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:53 AM EST

            These constant shootings and murders are gang related. Take all the gang bangers and put them on the chain gang. Quit putting gov money into prisons...let these people pay their dues. Misery loves company!

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            Reply#611 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:04 AM EST

            I feel for the mother. Has to be horrible to go through what she has had to. But I now understand why the "Guns nuts" are so upset about the new bill. If they have to go through a mental evaluation, they might fail and lose their weapons. Well, if your mentally sick, you don't NEED a gun! I'm all for the 2nd amendment, but this is the 21st century. NOT the 1800's. We no longer use muskets. So to me, the ownership of hunting equipment would be ok. Hunting rifles, hand guns, and shot guns should be allowed. But, there's no need for assault rifles or large magazines. Unless your paranoid and constantly think we will be invaded. Other than military or law enforcement use, civilians do not NEED them. Notice I said "NEED", air and food we need. I would like to have an M4A1. But all I could do with it is target practice. Would be a waste of money. If you CAN'T defend your home against a few criminals with a pistol or shotgun, then you have no right to use an assault weapon. Assault weapons are designed for killing. Why do you think the M16 round tumbles through the air, end over end, and not like a hunting rifle bullet?

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            Reply#612 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:36 AM EST

            Are you high?

            Why do you think the M16 round tumbles through the air, end over end, and not like a hunting rifle bullet?

            They don't. The 1x7 barrel twist of the M16 actually OVER-stabilizes the 62 grain SS109 tungsten-core penetrator projectile from the standard U.S. military issue M855 ammunition.

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            #612.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:57 PM EST

            The Second Amendment does not contain the word "need".

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            #612.2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:58 PM EST

            I don't know where you got your information on the ballistics of the M-16 . Or more precisely, the 5.56mm ball ammunition, but the bullet does not tumble through the air. If it did, a shooter wouldn't be able to hit the side of a barn from inside. I think where you got confused is since the 5.56 fires such a light bullet, it has a tendency to yaw on impact. The front slows down and the back is still going fast which causes the bullet to tumble or swap ends and break up. The design was used to help prevent over penetration and cause a large enough wound to stop an enemy solder from continuing the fight. A wounded man takes a couple of his buddies out of the fight as well. A dead soldier can wait until the fight is over. Why do you think it takes multiple rounds to kill? When you talk about how the AR or AK rifles are " high powered " weapons, perhaps you should look up the ballistic of the rounds used. Most common hunting rifles will pack a bigger punch. This is why the 5.56/.223 round is at the bottom of the list for deer or other bigger game animals. The .223/ 5.56 is a great round for smaller animals like coyotes or wood chuck. Accurate out to 500 yards, light to carry in bulk, light recoil, easily to control the rifles that use it. Not recommended on game animals over 75 pounds.

              #612.3 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:56 PM EST

              I got my M-16 stats from a friend (war vet) that has used one and he told me his did tumble end over end. It could be that he was mistaken about it tumbling through the air. His C.O. told him they do that so when it hits a person, the bullet will bounce around inside them and tear as much apart as possible. And 5.56 ball ammo? It's not a ball by any means. That would be a musket, with a different sized ball. And no, the Second Amendment does not say "Need". Says we have the right to bear arms. Is a pistol, shotgun, or hunting rifle not an arm? That's all we "need" to have. There is NO need for assault rifles to be in the hands of civilians is all I'm saying. Law enforcement and military need them.

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              #612.4 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:36 AM EST

              You know nothing of the subject matter of which you speak, and the more you try to make it sound like you know something, the more you simply make a fool of yourself.

              "Ball" refers to standard FMJ (Full Metal Jacket) ammunition, not the shape of the projectile.

              No bullet "when it hits a person, the bullet will bounce around inside them and tear as much apart as possible.".

              And most of what old dog in al. told you about civilian .223 Remington and military 5.56x45 NATO is pretty much correct...although they can be accurate WAY beyond 500 yards, and appropriate loads are suitable for large game- Winchester recommends their 64 grain Power Point .223 load for bear, and I personally have used the 64 grain Power Point to instantly turn off mulie bucks up to about 175 pounds or so.

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              #612.5 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:41 AM EST
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              Michelle from the woods,

              I get you...but regular citizens also have no reason to have assault weapons. Have your rifle, shotgun handgun.LEGALLY. Hell I do, but I am not crying or worried about having a background check or being told I have no reason to have an assault gun either. Assault guns are just that, there should be a strict ban on assault weapons and they should be restricted to homeland security. I grew up in a home with guns, I hunted long side my dad and 3 brothers and host of uncles and aunts, I'm an excellent shot. But hunting guns were for hunting deer, etc in season, not human beings.

              To others, drug and gun crimes are not just in poor impoverished areas, really how do you think drugs get to this country, because the last time I checked not one person in the ghetto had a plane or yacht to bring them in on. I've in a rich area, million dollar homes, etc. and there were more drugs floating through my neighborhood than Compton. Reality Check. The ghetto is second home to drugs and dealers, the rich take ownership in the first home. You could coat the walls with cocaine in the rich high school my kids went to.

              To the gentleman who advises others to go back to their native countries, maybe you are not up on your history, but just in case you forgot, this country is only native to Native Americans, your Native country is most likely somewhere in Europe and last time I checked that's across the Atlantic, depending which coast you're on.

              To whoever said guns don't kill people, you're right!! people kill people, people with GUNS, the main reason those people who do kill with guns need to have stricter background checks, anyone with more than 2 guns in a household should have to be listed with homeland security. Felons have no rights to guns.

              Why is everyone so scared to have a background check to get a gun? Maybe when someone walks into your kids school and kills your kid, or takes out your hubby in front of you at a movie theater or heck even blow your 5 yr old sons head off leaving church your song will change.

              This nation has been divided forever, Obama isn't doing that. No one is yelling that Gov. Christie is all out behind supporting Obama, I wonder why. My descendants are European, I will not deny that, you people want this to be about the fails of a black president it isn't.. there was not a black president in office during Columbine, or VT shootings, it just took this President to stand up and say .. this is enough crap, get bad, get glad, yell scream, cry, roll over in the mud, I'm sick of kids dying because everyone is afraid to step on the toes of the NRA and the gun fanatics. Finally!!!! Yes I voted for the better person for the job and if Chris Christie is about keeping kids safe and alive and guns out of the hands of criminal and fools, I will vote for him in 2016 too..

                Reply#613 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:38 AM EST

                Maybe you should sit down and breathe into a paper bag or something, so you don't tip over.

                Columbine happened right smack in the middle of the DemoKKKrat's "Assault" weapon ban.

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                #613.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:02 PM EST

                Vern-

                If the ban were to only removes a dozen "assault rifles" from getting on the streets. How many lives can that save? Is it not worth it to you? I personally DO NOT want to see my son (or ANYONE for that matter) get killed because we didn't act on banning "assault weapons". Law enforcement and military need them. Not civilians.

                  #613.2 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:45 AM EST

                  It wouldn't save any lives. I've never seen an "assault rifle" getting "on the streets", and I'm not aware of a single crime committed in the history of our nation, with ANY legally owned select-fire weapon. Select-fire weapons have been HEAVILY regulates since 1934, and there are NONE that have been produced since 1986 that ANY civilian can legally own. Not one.

                  The truth of the matter is, you don't even know what you're trying to ban- you're getting your panties in a twist about civilian sporting rifles that LOOK similar to military assault rifles.

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                  #613.3 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:15 AM EST

                  A better way to reduce gun deaths in the U.S., would be for Barack Hussein to quit arming Mexican drug cartels with machineguns to murder American police officers with.

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                  #613.4 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:27 AM EST

                  what else are you for banning and or limiting,the amount of alcohol one can purchase at one time, or one can stock pile, if you own a bar in your home your should also have to be listed with the atf. the band of cigarettes no carton sales or ban together they kill kids also,limit the cars they can drive,govern them to not exceed 55 mph,maybe you can explain to me how you made it this far in life with out these restrictions at a young age

                    #613.5 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:44 PM EST
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                    Sheesh! You would think that after the SECOND kid got shot, mom would have decided to frickin' MOVE!!!!! Sadly, these are the consequences, of having/raising children that you can NOT afford!! Gun control aside, if you're living in a neighborhood where people are getting shot EVERYDAY, it's time to move. This is coming from someone that currently lives in Chicago.

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                    Reply#614 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:00 PM EST

                    It's too bad that none of the four fathers could have helped out either.

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                    #614.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:06 PM EST

                    Forefathers. We did have more than four.

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                    #614.2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:31 PM EST

                    What are you talking about?

                    She had four off-spring that died. Odds are, there were probably four fathers- one for each spawn.

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                    #614.3 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:45 AM EST
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                    Reply#615 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:44 PM EST

                    the loss of a child must be the most painful thing to exprience,why not after the first or at the least death of a second child ,move out of chiago.the children grive at the loss of a sibling also.

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                    Reply#616 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:25 PM EST

                    Hers an idea genius...after your first kid gets shot, move the f#ck out of @!$%#cago! Man people are f#ckin' dumb!

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                    Reply#617 - Sat Feb 2, 2013 10:19 AM EST
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                    I am what most of you say with such disdain, a "liberal". However I personally feel as if the time for serious gun control in my country is not at hand , yet .

                    If this country continues to have such a large percentage of it's citizenry align itself ( against their own best interests ) with the Republican Party, then we are headed towards a second civil war. And I can see no better way for U.S. liberals to eliminate the Treasonous, Murderous, Greedy, Self Serving Cowards who make up the leadership of the Republican Party, as well as the millions of "ditto headed" morons who provide the few at the top with the votes necessary for them to rape our countries coffers, and destroy our countries future, then firearms.

                    After we've rid ourselves of the few who have cost U.S. so much, and the many brain dead idiots who have been so easily manipulated into voting along a party line that is so completely against our countries best interests, then we can have a serious discussion about gun control. However with the demise of the Treasonous Republican Party, and the much more logical control of our countries vast wealth, the ensuing upgrade to our educational systems, and the increase of funding that would be gained from the reduction in monies now thrown away on the military, and corporate welfare, would no doubt spawn a more intelligent populace, a more gainfully employed populace, and a much less violent populace. A population in which this argument wouldn't even exist.

                    One more thing I'd like to point out to all you moronic right wingers. As per your argument that your right ( or "need") to own a firearm is to prohibit the Government from ever turning on the citizens of the United States and enslaving us all. A situation which is only the reality of a very delusional, and week mind ( like yours for instance ), do you have any idea as to what this countries military hardware and training consists of. I know dumb question, since most Right Wingers are not the types who have actually have fought, and died for their country. Try to educate yourselves a bit. That AR-15 my look like an M16, but there is a world of difference. And the p.o.s. Toyota sitting in your driveway, is no match for an M1A1 Abrams Tank.

                    My suggestion to you Right Wing Bozos' is to turn off the FOX Propaganda Network, stop voting along the lines that your masters tell you to, and start voting along the lines that make sense for you , your family, and your country, or continue has you have been and realize that when the @!$%# hits the fan, and all your treasonous, thieving, lying, masters have jumped ship and moved to Dubai, your worst nightmare will become reality as your hunted down by a citizens army of pissed off liberals, who are not only more intelligent then you, but are also very well armed !

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                    Reply#619 - Sat Feb 2, 2013 5:52 PM EST

                    If you are more intelligent than republicans then learn to not have a "week mind" or that your AR-15 "my look" (is not it might??)like an M-16. For which you are also completely ignorant as any competent person with the right tools and knowledge(not you) can transform into an automatic gun firing the same rounds. In a civil war no one would be using that range. Mostly they will be using .308 or .300 in a sniper form .Second.... go google your party history so you get to know that actually democrats wanted to keep slavery and where the ones with the most racist initiatives. If it were by democrats there will be no Obama and no Martin Luther King(which by the way was a republican).They actually had a face wash to win elections after the republicans abolished slavery. Replublicans are not racist as many think. They are just straigh and want things done in the old fashion way of moral and principles and sometimes in trying to enforce things they may look like hardliners but the thruth is all they want is to attack your liberal inmorality as hard as they can. The way you diminish a nation and make it weak is thru weakening its principles and morals and thats what you democrats have done by trying to show that theres no lines or stops, by accepting morally devious pervert persons and putting a gay agenda that had weakened ,confused and frustrated our youth into not having identity and putting themselves in a position that they feel rejected and reflecting this frustration by commiting violent crimes.Is not Hollywood the capital of gayness the one that put out this movies that show to kids that there are no limits in killing anyone? Are not this actors mostly democrats in a state that want to be all green and gun free while making the poison that twist our youth minds? Before posting and showing your stupidity please learn to write and read and learn history. One of the reasons japan never did a land strike in USA (said by their own generals) is that they made a report and found out that in every corner a normal citizen would be armed and they will be shot and killed by normal citizens before reaching any important spot. Military may have bigger weapons but here the ant mind prevails.. more ants against a single bigger enemy prevails.And you are not even counting in your fanatic mind that if something like that ever happens all this soldiers will be firing against their own families and friends and thats not going to happen.The National Guard is controlled by the state and the forces oath is to the constitution not the president so in a case like that , mostly the president will be deemed a traitor and removed by the military before killing their own citizens. You come as most ignorant regarding law ,guns , the military order and the constitution. Go educate yourself. I think you are not even american judging by your sloopy writing and general mindset.

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                    #619.1 - Wed Feb 6, 2013 6:38 PM EST
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