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Three members of a Southern California family have been missing for nearly a month after taking a trip to Mexico, loved ones say.
Roberto Muñoz, his wife Cecilia, and their grandson Armando Salinas, had gone to Mexico to visit relatives over the holidays. But just as the three were beginning their trip home, family members lost contact with them.
Relative Delphina Layton said the family had reached out to the U.S. Embassy and the FBI, to no avail.
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Cellphones belonging to the missing group appear to have been turned off, and border records show that they never crossed back into the United States, she said.
Mexico's drug war is also part of a drug culture with roots in music, movies and even religion
Layton expressed frustration with the pace of the investigation.
“I need returned calls,” she said. “Somebody get back to me and tell me that you’re doing something.”
A Palm Springs, Calif., television station reported that the family had been traveling through Chihuahua, Mexico, and passing through the rough border town of Ciudad Juarez. U.S. relatives were reported to be living in the Coachella Valley, northeast of San Diego.
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Mexico really is as dangerous as Afghanistan or Pakistan, regardless of what vacationers who have yet to be killed will tell you. Drug cartels don't care where you're from.
Even a family who is familiar with Mexico isnt safe, but lets be honest it also happens here. Its just in Mexico with their police we may never know what happened. At least in the US law enforcement would probably find out what happened.
Has anyone checked the jails or INS? Was their paper work/pass port in order? Why with this family did they go to Mexico instead of having their family come to America? Is this what Romney calls self deportation? It's not really working is it?
What, you put that little comment in there to be PC?
Yes, it might happen here, but it is not an every day occurrence as it is in Mexico, particularly in the area this family was travelling.
I'm very sorry for the pain of the family left behind, but just what she expects American authorities, or the Mexican authorities for that matter, to do is a huge question mark. Anyone going into Mexico is taking a risk when there are reports of killers walking up to vehicles waiting in line to cross the border check points and firing point blank into them without consequence from authorities.
And as far as I know, the extreme travel advisory issued by our government against Mexico has not been rescinded. Help from the Mexican authorities? What a joke. Their own "authorities" are either being murdered or running like rabbits for our border. The ones left behind are in the pockets of the killers.
Too bad for the family, quite anguishing I'm sure. At least in the U.S., you have the 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms for protection.
and we are opening our doors to this? I'm sure the bad illegals are going to change or turn themselves in.
SUCKERS!!!!!
That's about the most idiotic comment I've seen this week.
Confussed. What does Romney have to do with any of this? Last time I checked he wasn't president, so his views really shouldn't matter one bit.
Personally, I feel the same about the people who travel to Mexico as I do the ones who go backpacking in Iran or North Korea.
Once you cross the border into their country, you're on your own.
Yes--- But it also depends on where in Mexico you go, for example, I wouldn't go where they went. But, thats probably hard for them since they have family.
However--- I have a freaking blast in Cancun and never once felt threatened or scared. NOT ONCE!
I can't begin to imagine the horror of being assaulted, kidnapped, or worse. Certain members of our species need to be put on an island and left there. Would be great if people could leave one another alone.
As Janine said above, once you cross the border it's another place altogether.
People just don't get it- Mexico is dangerous! Stay away from there. There's a reason people are trying to leave there and come here.
And with the sentiment regarding current immigration policies the 11 million+ illegals will probably have their dreams come true soon. As well as their families and extended familes. Heck, just stay here- we're becoming assimilated by Mexico as it is!
Mexico was a failed state for the last 200 years.
If they live near San Diego, why were they going through the Juarez border?
after visiting relatives in Chihuahua...it seems awfully strange to take the long way home.
my gut says they were drug runners...and as such, they likely met a fate they were bound to meet at sometime.
I crossed the bridge by foot into Nuevo Progreso this past Christmas to buy some boots. I only went in about 5 blocks during the morning hours and found it to be quite nerve wracking. If a little border town that is mostly for tourists is that bad, I can't imagine the bigger cities.
So what, they probably where illegals anyway.
To: bdjbforfun. My thoughts exactly.
With Mexico's history, I would say that it would be prudent, at this point, to have relatives who reside in Mexico to travel north to see me. It appears to me, that Mexi-hole has taken three more lives, more than likely. And for the person or persons who say that Mexico is safe or what happened to those family members could happen here, just who are you trying to convince? Yourself?
Mexico is like detroit 100%, they will take ur life for a dollar
Confussed-15...., I guess you are.
Where is the President of Mexico in all of this? He is the one who complains like a brat that the Mexican citizens are not treated fairly in the US and demand from President Obama that changes be made.
Funny how when a US citizen(s) gets treated badly while in Mexico both administrations are silent.
Sad that the US Embassy has not returned their calls.
I've vacationed in Mexico EVERY YEAR for the past 7yrs. I roam the towns and feel 100% safe. The people in Mazatlan are the nicest people you will ever meet. I'm appalled at some comments here. People forget that in the US, we have gang bangers & drug dealers here just as they do everywhere else in the world. Grow up people. And to those who said 'Oh Well, must be illegals, so who cares?' - ya'll must be right wing "Christians" who care so much about humanity, right? (eyes roll)
There are enough places I would like to see here in the United States - I have no desire whatsoever to vacation in Mexico.
If these people are legal Americans they will be "Bumps in the Road", you know like Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods.
What does an Americans death mean to this government "anyways".
Quick Joe Biden search their house for guns.
Same thing happened to coworker. Same last name, someone should see if it is connected. His father went missing. Coworker lives in Colorado.
@Jessica-1170252
Here's a hint, look at a map. Then let us know what route there is from Baja to the mainland!
@Chris from Yucaipa
Perhaps you should try reading your own! But hey, it's only Mon. morning, so you have plenty of time to top it!
A little off topic, but I had to comment on the "eyes roll" comment by Lucieinthesky. It's a shame the media emphasizes right wing "Christians" who make mistakes or don't follow Jesus much at all. As with many things, the media doesn't often tell us about the Christians who do give their lives for others and follow God's word to love one another as ourselves. To bring it back to topic, i have had similar experieinces to lucie. I've been to Mexico many times myself and never felt threatened.
It's sad to say but these people are likely dead and buried somewhere out in the desert down there.. Their car and belongings now the property of some murdering drug cartel members or the gangs of bandits that just look for people to rob and murder.. It doesn't matter to them if they are Mexican, American, white or black.. They will murder for the last dime in a person's pocket!
I have some very good friends that live in Mexico City and I worry about them a lot.. They told me just recently that their neighborhood, which was fairly free from crime, has recently had some incursions by drug gangs.. All I can do is pray they stay safe but their safety is now questionable, especially since law enforcement if virtually useless down there.. The whole aim of these gangs is to get a solid hold on the city.. They go from neighborhood to neighborhood recruiting people, especially young people, through fear and intimidation until each area is under their control.. Then they go on murdering rampages with drive by shootings, etc.. A lot of innocent people are dying because the cops look the other way.. They have NO power and are completely intimidated by the cartels.. Really sad..
What a bunch of stupid comments, it's not that Mexico is not safe, is that people who search for trouble find it. But I guess is easier to condemn others without noticing that in the US besides drug dealers, and gangs you let crazy people shoot dozens of kids on their schools and students in their university...yeah, because that makes totally sense.
OldDog. Sorry, I have to agree with Chris. Smooty Patooty's comment was just as dumb as the one made by Confussed. Hey Smooty. Guess where all the guns come from that are used to kill both innocent Mexicans and the Narco People? Texas and Arizona. The border state with the least amount of guns trafficked into Mexico is California because we actually require useful things like background checks. Adios!
I know Christian missionaries who are in Mexico and some live in safe places and some in dangerous. Their love for the people is what keeps them there. They could easily choose to come back to the states so lucieinthesky shouldnt sterotype. The person who made the comment about who cares didnt claim to be Christian. Did you notice lucie said "must be Christians"? No proof so lucie is out of line.
Why the hell do people continue traveling to arts of the world where they are not liked or wanted.
Sad that they are missing, probably dead, but gee, it's time to start using some goddamn common sense when making travel plans.
RandogM- there was also the fast and furious scandal. Some guns may have come from Eric Holder via the ATF fast and furious scandal.
"Puff Piece" ..get use to it. Most likely be going on all week.
Prehaps the phone call demanding ransom was missed and the three have now taken up residency in a pit that has sense been filled in.
No, we don't forget. But obviously things are not as bad as in Mexico since millions of Mexicans, along with every other brand of refugee from every other country in the world, will die trying to get to the US instead of staying in the cesspool that is Mexico.
Some will even abandon their children for the chance to come to America. And you know, like, we really need more common trash who will walk off and abandon their children, don't we? Like we don't already have enough of that with our own citizens.
Hi, Scooter.
Yeah, we'll be inundated with these things trying to keep us feeling sorry for the millions of criminal illegals who are about to get amnesty.
GM Sremin,
It wont fly they way this wish. expect a bunch of other diversions when it doesn't. Also expect tomorrows speech to say....WE, will get this done. By "we" of course he means Himself and his new executive "action" pen.
Obama= Amnesty
Ried = Anchor baby
And before you mokes start screaming Reagan, Bush, etc...... THEY ARE NOT in office .....
Our entire family took two trips to Juarez every year. Loved the culture, food and friendly vibrant family atmosphere. Left the cars with young men to wash and wax. They took extremely good care of the cars, guarding, watching to be sure no one touched them, best wax jobs Ever, for a reasonable price. Came back to ABQ New Mexico with our cars loaded with well made merchandise at reasonable prices. That was BEFORE LBJ's Congress of 'Redistribution'.
After 'THE GREAT SOCIETY' 'war on poverty' changed the USA into a Perpetually Dependency Addicted nation, Everything changed. With the US Government mandated 'war on Traditional Family', has come World Class USA Drug addiction, causing Mexico to suffer drastically in the, predictable as the supplier, 'Collateral damage'. The USA is now the Most Drug Addicted Nation in all of HISTORY. Thank you LBJ and your Liberal Left (D) Congress, You done Good. Now for History to once again 'exact it's toll'...on the perpetrator of one of the greatest acts of Traditional Family Destruction in history.
I don't care if you have relatives there Mexico is a dangerous hole. Go there at your own risk. As a poster stated earlier. There are plenty of places in the US to visit. Why risk your life going to Mexico? That and with the Mexican government actively promoting illegal immigration to the US I think I'll spend my money elsewhere.
What a lot of incredibly disrespectful and stupid replies from racists and ethnocentricists.
Mexico is not a "failed state", and it isn't even as dangerous as the USA where folks are apparently much more afraid than in Mexico since you can't even have an adult conversation about "regulating" firearms without gun-hugging nutcases putting the NRA before the USA.
Unlike the USA, our Congreso is actually working together to attend to Mexico's problems, and we expect our economy to grow more than the USA's this year.
The "narco violence" everyone likes to blame everything on is simply an extension of the US "war on drugs" fueled by US dollars from US consumers thanks to a stupid US prohibition of popular intoxicating substances that creates a multi-billion dollar a year black market defended with US-bought weapons. It involves narcos and police and the military, not civilian travellers or tourists.
As for all those "criminal illegals", I wish all those wonderful hard-working folks would all come back to Mexico so the racists would have to eat their words since they wouldn't be able to afford their food or the lifestyle to which they've become accustomed since it's those "criminal illegals" who make their lives affordable.
Really, most of you folks who responded with hatred and ignorance to this article bring SHAME to the USA. You don't deserve the good fortune of having been born anywhere in North America.
I see the liberal feel-good police are out and about early, acting as if they actually care about this family of Mexicans.
All you care about is that three of your votes for the next election are missing.
Just calling it like it is...
Randog,
Obama and Holder's Fast & Furious provided those guns with their half baked attempt at trumping up straw purchsing activity. It's pretty obvious that they only wanted to target border states where the 2nd Amendment is still regarded as part of the Constitution. Besides, Lord O certainly didn't want to offend his voting base in Mexico Norte(CA for the dim).
I love you halfwit neocon religious hypocrites, so precocious
Mexico IS part of North America.
All you hear in the news for the last several years is how dangerous Mexico is....hey, let's go to Mexico! ...says a lot about their lack of brain cells..........
Hopefully these guys get found, but every day that passed reduces their chances exponentially.
I have Hispanic friends in El Paso that will not go back to Mexico to visit their families any longer because it is too dangerous for them. They tell me that as much as it isn't safe for Whites to cross the border, it really isn't safe for them. Supposedly they are looked at as traitors by some of the more dangerous ones down there. I know for a fact that one of the engineers down there showed me his pickup which was riddled with bullet holes. Claims he went across to watch the world cup with family and when he went to walk out to the truck, two people opened fire. Missed him and his brother, but managed to put about 20 rounds in his truck. Just one of many incidents I have been told about.
That whole machismo, drug culture thing going on down there is bad news from where I stand.
NC,
when did that happened? I thought it was it's own country? im not trying to argue just a bit confused
As my 'souvenir' shirt from El Paso says, "Juarez, it isn't Kansas". Even from 10 miles away it just screams of violence.
Anyone going to that @!$%#-hole Mexico, risk their lives. I guess this is a known fact, but not necessarily followed. Well, that is what you get.
I love how nearly everyone on this board refers to that @$#@hole Mexico... like it's one freakin city. It's kinda like saying, you know what, the United States is a really dangerous Sh@#$hole, because you went to Compton or to Detroit. There are cities that are dangerous in Mexico - for example, the one that this family went to. The majority of the places in Mexico are safe. Your condemning every part of a country for the worst areas... I'm pretty sure you could do that with every country on the planet.
Oh, and for the amazingly ignorant who's posts are summarized as "OMG I went to the border town and it was sooooo bad, the rest of the country must be worse!"... the border towns are the ONLY really bad areas of Mexico. You should always avoid the border towns at all costs. Once you get about 100 miles south, it's pretty nice.
Source: American who lived in Mexican border towns for three years, whose wife is from Matamoros (eastern border town). We haven't visited her hometown in 4 years, too dangerous. We fly her family up here to visit.
Why do I hear people saying "Round up the criminals and put em on an island somewhere"? I say screw that let the criminals stay and let me go to an island somewhere, I think those of us that obey the law should be rewarded.
Rose, North America is a continent, not a country. Mexico, the US, and Canada are all part of North America. Kind of like France, Germany, Switzerland, etc. are all part of "Europe". Residents of the United States have appropriated the term 'American', but they really have no exclusive right to it.
Why don't people just stay home? There's a woman missing in Turkey right now who went there alone, and left a spouse and two kids at home. The article said she was on a vacation and sight seeing trip alone. Just stay home people, I get tired of reading about this stuff every day. Just stay home! It gives a lot of people a lot of anguish when this stuff happens and it's easily prevented. Just stay home!
to bad the citizens dont have the 2nd amendment
LOL - Obama wants your precious Latino vote, but just don't ask for anything in return.
Anyone seen our Ambassador to Mexico lately? His body guards were given two bullets and a small Icee courtesy of the generous Mayor Bloomberg.
Why not just stay home? Because nothing could ever happen at home -- where most accidents happen. Or in several US cities where you are more likely to be killed than you are in Mexico.
You can stay home, enjoy your flat screen, and try to pretend that the bad guys have not actually defeated you!
Well waffledr, how many foreign vistors to the U.S. end up missing? I can answer that. Scant few. How many Americans end up getting killed, kidnapped, or jailed on trumped up charges abroad every year? That one I can't answer but dozens make the news, dozens more probably don't.
Many years ago, around 1990, a Mexican friend of mine told me that he never allows his American family to walk alone on the streets of Mexico when they visit.
When I asked why he replied, "Because you don't know my people!"
The United Nations does NOT consider Mexico part of North America. It is in Central America along with Guatemala, Belize, Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Costa Rica and Panama.
The people of the world consider Americans from the United States to be the only "Americans". If I, a white 3rd generation American, go to Mexico, I am an "Americano". If a Mexican who is a US citizen goes to Mexico, he is called a "Mexicano".
See....the world calls us Americans because us Americans fought in all those wars. Where was Mexico?
By the way: Europe and Asia are one big LAND MASS but they are separated into 2 continents.
Why is that do you suppose?
There is no "continent" of "Central America". That is a political designation (and who cares what the UN recognizes?). From Panama up, it's North America, from Panama south is South America. And regardless, they are ALL AMERICA and the people that live in any of the countries are ALL AMERICAN. Europe is a continent, like it or not. I don't make the rules.
Actually, the reason they call us Americans is because "United Statians" sounds incredibly stupid (the founding fathers really didn't think that whole thing through, at the time people still identified more with their home state) and eventually there needed to be a way to lump everyone into a common label. So we appropriated 'American', ignoring the fact that there are a lot of other countries that make up the American continent. Much like the people in India aren't all that happy that even though they are part of Asia, they are not considered 'Asian'. Russia too, for that matter. Would it be ok for the Somalians to say they are the only Africans?
Not sure why you think 'fighting in wars' has anything to do with anything.
O.H. - you are just incredibly massively retarded, all the way around. Mexico is part of Central America??? Oh my God... you are just such an ignorant stereotypical piece of white trash it's not even funny.oh, and I'mnotlost - I think ya just might be:
In Mexico last year, 120 foreigners (Americans) were killed. While that's awful, according to the same crime ratio, you're twice as likely to be killed in Texas. Three times as likely to be killed in Houston. So would you visit Houston, or Mexico?
Most major US cities continue to have a much higher murder ratio for visitors than Mexico.
I still wouldn't go anywhere near the border, though.
Why does everybody accept that number? That's the number BushII put on it back around 2001. I read an article last year that illegal border crossings were down to 750,000 a year. It has to be double that if not more.
oh well...that's three less illegals to have to worry about
1st rule on a trip to Mexico:
1) Don't go.
I went to Mexico a long time ago. Had a great time. I wouldn't go today.
Suspect its perfectly safe to fly to one of the resort areas but touring Mexico by car probably isnt.
2nd rule on a trip to Mexico:
2) Don't go.
Amen. If you want to go there, then do so, but expect it to be a permanent vacation. Gump has it right. Stupid is as stupid does. If I had relatives in Obama land ( Chicago ) I would not visit them either.
I am going to Cancun this Spring but will not be venturing away from the all inclusive resort at which I am staying.
Good rules Heavenandearth, and may I add a third?
3.) HELL Don't go
Go to Cancun every year- have a blast. the locals are very nice and accomidating (tips) but I would stay within the resort strip of Cancun and when we go to night clubs or bars we travel with the Hotel group. Its a blast, I truly never once felt scared or threatened. One time in the airport I felt a little uncomfortable, there were 3 cops in the airport that were just STARING at me. I was nervous they were going to single me out for whatever reason--- but they never did anything-- but STARE.
Other than that . All my trips to cancun are awesome and I am going again this summer!
Oh and if you want illegal drug paraphernalia --- dont go anywhere sketchy or up to random people- just go up to teh doors of the bathroom at any club you are at lol.... i do not know this from experience but i have witnessed it everytime- everywhere we went. Its pretty out in the open- everyone knows who the two guysstanding by the restrooms are but they dont force it on you or nag you to buy it- they just wait for people to go up and signal them. Hm.Not my kind of thing --- but just a tip
Mom2five- and there were human heads in a bag found in a Cancun resort in recent times. Don't assume that things are safe anywhere in Mexico.
Came in to say this, but then I saw the name, then I saw relatives. Makes sense. No place is safe in Mexico.
Mom2five....plenty of places in the US to go for spring break.
Williamof Rites,I had a customer go to Puerta Vallarta for an eight day vacation with a tour group.They came back safe and sound and had a great time.They stayed at a resort and in the day time went with a group to local restaurants.It isn't even wise for tourists who come to the U.S. to go off the beaten path by themselves.I'd name a few places in California but don't like using a broad brush to paint an entire community of people.
BUT.....BUT.....BUT......it's cheap.
I had always wanted to go to Mexico so I finally went in August 2011. Never EVER again. The water and scenery were beautiful but that about sums up the good part of my wasted money and vacation. Very disappointed and scary with soldiers at check points with assault weapons draped over their shoulders. That was my first experience/impression once we left the Cancun airport. I can now say "been there, done that."
"Stupid is as stupid does."
Maybe they immigrated back to their homeland................You know, since the violence in America is so bad..... What, it could happen..
mom2five - have your will in place. if you are not taking children have in place what will happen to them should you not return. (do not take any children by the way) do not wear any jewelry or any substance. cover up your blonde hair. you have to go through customes, the airport itself and the parking lot (all places of concer) before getting on the bus which will take you to your resort - along the way keep your fingers crossed nothing happens to your bus. i could go on and on - the place is a cess pool - lawlless and crime ridden. good luck .....
mom2five- Have fun in Cancun! Don't let these people who never leave their own homes convince you not to live your life. Bad things can and do happen everywhere. That's not reason to curl up in a ball and stop living (as these people have apparently done). Enjoy your vacation! I recently went to Cozumel, Mexico. Couldn't have had a better time and never felt the least bit uneasy.
By all means travel and enjoy your lives while being intelligent and cautious. HOWEVER, those of you who travel to Cozumel or Cancun and say that you "go" to Mexico. NO, that is like some European going to Disney World and then returning home saying that they saw the U.S.
gmk - I am taking the kids to Disney World for Spring Break.
DoWhatsRight - I will take precautions and I am traveling with a male; no children.
Allielcea - I have friends that travel to Cancun every year without issue. I know I will have fun.
Randog - I totally agree with you; traveling to Cancun is not the same as the towns I visited as a child with my grandparents. Even 25 - 30 years ago - My parents and grandparents surrounded me to stop random people from coming up and touching me. They were attracted to my blonde hair and pale skin.
If you are going to a tourist resort, they are usually fairly well protected. I vacationed at a beautiful place right on the beach; most of the people there were other tourists and I felt quite safe. However; I live about 45 minutes from the Mexican border in AZ, and I often would cross over into Nogales to bargain shop. It is very poor there and people do follow you; I haven't gone there in years. Naco is close by, and that too is very poor...People stare at you and give hostile looks; not very welcoming. I went to Juarez years ago, and even then I felt creepy. This is one place that is off limits unless you want to take a chance...Lots of cartel activity there.Also, Tijuana near CA border is not very secure. We do have a very large population of Mexican nationals that shop in our town from Mexico; I found them not to be especially pleasant towards Americans, and their children tend to be left in the toy aisles where they play with everything without supervision. However; I am sure that there are plenty of Americans who treat them with hostility, so it works both ways.
My dad is married to a woman who is from Mexico (Tampico - on the East coast about 6 hours South of the border). They used to drive down to go visit her family once or twice a year, but they haven't been down there in 4 or 5 years now because it is not worth the risk. Dad said he would fly his wife directly there to avoid the worst of the problems in the border towns, but even then he doesn't want their children going with her. They have been told that because my dad is white, their children would be targeted for kidnapping to collect ransom (because all white people/Americans are rich). Her parents still drive up once a year, but even they do so with the understanding that it may cost their lives. Sure there are nice places in Mexico still, but if these people were going to visit family in the cities that were reported, they did so at their own risk. They knew about the risks and chose to go anyway. I hope it was worth it to them.
The world is a dangerous place. More dangerous in certain locations that you are wise to avoid.
Dorthy said it best......There is no place like home!
Unless you are from Chicago.
Good one Crisp haha
LOL Crisp, I just got back from a weekend in Chicago. It is a fun city if you stick to the northern downtown areas you are perfectly safe.
Dorothy was just another Kansas runaway, she left this note.
"Auntie EM, hate you, hate Kansas, took the dog."
signed Dorothy
I visit chicago every year, have never found it to be a scary place.
granted, I dont go hang out on the south side...
on the other hand, i've visited a few places in the south where I was terrified - in a "female going to get raped and killed" kind of way. i hope to jebus my car never breaks down in georgia again...and I never have to endure a few hours of bubba and his brother billy bob, in overalls and no shirts, chewing on straw...staring me down for endless hours while I wait for my car to get repaired. I am GRATEFUL there was a man with me when that car broke down, because im certain i'd have been raped the way they were staring at me and my friend.
anywho...given how many people go missing, are found murdered, or have been raped in America...
i'd say we better refrain from patting ourselves on the back for being a "safe" country.
we've got far too many homicides and dead children to EVER believe that to be inherently true.
@Jessica - you're an idiot. When was the last time we found a beheaded body in the US? It happens all the time in Mexico - usually a dozen at a time, an entire family often. When was the last time a journalist was found beheaded here after she wrote an unflattering article about druggers? Mexico is a mess and has always been a mess, even when the Spanish were in charge. It is well know for its lawlessness and for the past 3 centuries at least has been a haven for criminals and deposed politicians of all nationalities from around the world. Stalin had Trotsky assassinated there for a few pesos - and there are many stories like that. All you idiots who go to Mexican resorts and talk about how wonderful the locals are are morons - they kiss your butts to get your money, because they have no other way of earning a living. They talk about how fat, lazy, and ugly Americans are.
If you can afford it, splurging a little for a hotel with a concierge is worth it, especially in big cities when you're clueless about the area. This applies to Chicago, Mexico and anywhere else in the world.
Ya know, I'm willing to bet that Jessica is over 200 pounds, under 5'6", ugly as homemade sin, has chronic halitosis, and FANTASIZES about losing her virginity. One of those fantasies is being raped by Bubba and his brother Billy Bob who probably wouldn't TOUCH her nasty a$$ if she PAID them. It never ceases to amaze me that people ab-so-LUTELY love to bash the south (in any way possible, mind you). I'm from the midwest and I've been all thru the south in my years. Not once did I encounter the 'hillbilly' culture you people believe permeates the region. I suggest that those who have something against the south try living there for awhile or visiting. There is not much of a greater imbecile than one who gives opinions without a lick of sense to do so...
Dootiumus,
Good post and your description of Jessica is probably too kind.
@FloridaMaggie You shouldn't throw stones if you live in a glass house, everywhere in the world there is violence, granted in Mexico there are beheaded bodies and all that sadistic stuff Narcos love to do, but please, google "school shootings in Mexico" and let us know what you will find... every country, region, culture, etc have their own demons to fight. One person's opinion is right, if you don't know the area you are visiting, stay alert, and don't put yourself in danger, Survival 101
This derail's unfortunate. The relative safety of different areas is somewhat on-topic, but the worst-place-to-visit-Olympics is always going to turn personal.
FloridaMaggie, Dootiumus, Logic4U, you're each suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor. Sharing an anecdote or calling a city/region unsafe aren't great contributions, but they're not excuses for personal attacks.

Tyler quick question how did you get the top part where your name is highlighted?
What is wrong with Chicago is that not enough of the people haven't got feed up with the killings yet. Just wait until those gang bangers start in on a white suburb. I know if it happened here, they gang bangers would be full of holes from all the neighbors opening up on them.
Gun laws be damned, when someone is shooting at you, or putting rounds into your house, fire back or else be a victim. Make the gang bangers pay the price for being stupid, they keep it in their hood, not in our areas where people act like people, not animals.
And if that insults someone, well, I'm sorry I think that way (not), but how else do you explain what those people are acting like?
Are you going to mention where you live?
Yes, until it hits the white neighborhoods, it's just thinning the herd, killing their own.
@SallyAnn--- Are you from Chicago? Really. Because I grew up there. It wasn't that bad then but getting there. I loved Old Town.
I'm sure it's like every other big city in the US. Some areas are nice and safe and others you just know not to wonder into.
NO CHERYL,,Detroit has no nice areas,,the whole city is a cesspool
I highly suspect we are not getting all of the facts on this!
I am highly suspicious anyone on here gives a hoot.
GM Tramp--- Dito.
We will get more facts once the Mexican authorities match the heads to the mutilated bodies.
i wonder if mexicans watch news stories in mexico about families that go to america and never come back...
24/7 news
I'm sure they do, but it's called escape.
I think most Mexican famlies that come here and don't go back are known as Illegals and there are far too many of them to be reported on, even on a 24/7 news station!
Bigchapp the difference is they hear from their families who have come here, and are told how easy it is to collect welfare (Using their cousins sisters brothers uncles next door neighbors SS #) while working under the table at the same time. How great it is to get FREE health care and education for their multitude of kids.
They have to do something while they just sit around and wait for the money grams and directions.
Hey self deportation does work...way to go Mitt!!!
Mitt who? ...oh my bad your still thinking in BLACK and WHITE terms.
Dee Ten...what a stupid comment.
Hey GMK-
I was thinking the SAME thing about stupid ass Dee Tens comment!!!!
KKK????
What does Mitt have to do with anything?
I say give Chicago to China to pay our debt to them. That should help with the crime rate. They can have Obama, too.
I would not got to Mexico, even if a won an all expenses paid vacation to Mexico. The drug cartels run the place and there are far too many people with extremely evil, vile agendas. Traveling to certain parts of a huge portion of the world should come with a huge warning; “enter at your own risk, you are so not in America any more“. Too many people travel and act like they are still in America. Also, just maybe there is a missing, underlie piece of this story.
If you’re a blue eyed blond female even if not, you’d probably be working for the cartel within a week if you’re male! They’ll find the corps minis the head! Its a good thing that our government is going to give them driver license’s so they can move back and forth without any problems! Expect more kidnapping and disappearances
Kim,
What makes you think it is safe to live in America?? Silly girl.....
Im betting that even with a Hispanic last name these people are Conservative voting, WORKING, American citizens.
If they were illegals, living on welfare,, and liberal agenda supporters they would have millions of dollars of government pay being spent on finding them. After all three people would be six votes for the dems.
As soon as i see a comment from texus mentioned, need i read further? Terry, get used to the Brown people, the majority in texus soon will be Hispanic, just like in California. That was a complete republican, racist fabricated exaggeration.
TerryFr---Are you for real? Good Grief!
ayeinfidel- My family is from TX. We are almost all progressive, liberal Dems; a blend of Hispanic, Anglo and
Native American. There are many more good people in TX than regressive bigots, it's just that until recently it was kind of dangerous to advertise your leanings. We are no longer a silent minority. We are finding our voice and working to change TX for the better. It will take time. We are up for the fight, hoping for the day that people like Terry will be an embarassing memory.
Detriot, Chicago,Mexico it doesnt matter if you travel to these places your asking to pay a high price. Should have told the Govt they voted for Obamass and they would have brought the whole family over
For me, when it comes to choosing vacation sites I tend to look for places that do NOT advertise that they hate Americans.
Yeah, maybe it's my lack of a sense of adventure, but maybe I will live longer this way.
Mexico is an armpit. If you have ever been to any town in Mexico, you have seen the whole country. Once you cross into that country, you give up any rights yoou may have had in the U.S.
H.Wilson,I've been to Mexico and it is not an armpit.the beaches are clean and beautiful and the people welcoming.
You go for the route o for airplane ?
Just a cleaning lady: The tourists areas are clean, the rest of the country is an armpit. I use to visit Mexico many years ago but I have no reason to visit it anymore. As for the American family, they probably were murdered by the drug cartel.
Shawn. Please list a few places that you have been that have not been a drunken quickie over the border to Tijuana, Laredo, etc. Go to places like San Miguel de Allende or Morelia or Guanajuato THEN we can have a discussion about Mexico....
People need to quit using illegal drugs and supporting the drug cartels. I'm sure many posters have family that party a little whether they realize it or not.
Mary, why do you think the business is so great in the US, we are the leading country for the use of drugs and so sales are going to be great here.. How about the US cartels ? They just never tell you about them. Now obama and the senate want to just open the door to illegal immigration, watch it really go to hell.
Bill K-1567373....You really are naive! This is simple supply and demand economics! As long as idiots in the US use drugs, the Mexican drug lords are happy to supply it...period! This has nothing to do with immigration reform! There were more than 11 million mexicans here illegally before Obama took office because all those who preceded him chose to look the other way! Now, as for the a-holes that continue to use drugs in this country, you are pathetic and weak and you will continue to fuel the cartels (Mexico and US) actions. There is not one person in this country that didn't know that drugs are a problem and addicting, yet they choose to try it anyway and the rest of us are now expected to pay for your bad decisions by way of rising healthcare costs and rise in violent crime....way to go!
This is a Universal problem here in USA, drug user everywere in all carers and profesions, In working places, institutions, state offices, etc. the money they expend give power to the drug cartels and promote corruption everywere in Mexico and here in USA also, the drug addiction star to breack down western cultures (and others...)
go have a margarita and dont come back.
If you travel to certain parts of Mexico you do so at your own risk. If you are unaware of the risks then you died of stupidity.
The State Dept. issues travel warnings for a reason. Mexico is on this list.
Carl, our Government wants these people to come to America - illegally and become citizens. Tell me, is our Government NUTS????
Last year in a census more of the 50% of the mexicans want move to USA (Viva Mexico ?), the drug cartels also, they want expand his business whit his paisans and fellow americans...
It does not matter if you have family in or you
used to be from Mexico, anybody going to ANY part of it, deserves what they get! What part of all the killings that go on each and every day do you people not understand? NOBODY, is safe it don't matter who you are. DON'T GO TO MEXICO!
jasonearl,Maybe they made a bad choice but nobody deserves to have harm done to them.Your way of thinking is just plain old spiteful and downright mean.
@Just a cleaning lady - if you choose to travel to mexico, you deserve what you get. That includes all the people who go the resorts - you should be spending your money here in the US. There are beautiful places here that need vacationers. People like you make me sick - there are differences among cultures and Mexico has ALWAYS been a cesspool and it is not going to change. We are nothing like them. I don't see any Americans paying to be smuggled across the Mexican border. You're a birdbrain and you don't deserve to live here.
I wouldn't say that anyone deserves to be murdered or robbed or arrested just because of where they decide to vacation, but you are certainly taking your life into your hands when you make decisions like that.
Myself, I have never felt a reason to backpack in Iran, or travel to North Korea, or Mexico either for that matter.
Get a clue! How safe is America? Let's ask the parents of the 20 dead children in Conn, no?? Clearly, you don't get OUT of the US much....
yeah.....ur just a bonehead cleaning goon
@Janine, I think you might want to add having your kids in a school anywhere in the US.
Bugsy,I own the cleaning business.I retired from ATT in a technical job.What is it that you do?Remember that when posting you are supposed to be respectful and your name calling is juvenile and disrespectful.
Florida Maggie,don't see how my opinion would make you sick.I love Ensenada Mexico and Acapulco.You are assuming that I spend money traveling.I haven't been to Baja in years.I have no plans to go to Florida ever,I live in California and if I want to see beauty and spend money I can travel to Yosemite or the coast in 2 hours.
To bad for this family they are going to miss out on the new sweeping immigration policy.
shallowmind,What kind of remark is that to make about an American missing family?
And now our disgusting scum in Congress want to give all the illegals citizenship - sure, why try to stop it at the border, let's let the whole Southwest go to drugs and gangs. I suggest we give them the southern half of California, especially LA and San Francisco, then put up the iron curtain - nothing else comes across. Either that or we forget about calling the United States a country, just let if fade into history. A country without laws is - Afghanistan or the mid-East! Coming soon to a state near YOU!
We have given California to them, and Texas. Now both parties have to compete for their votes. That should work out great.
shallowmind is a perfect username for you. We took Texas and California FROM Mexico you nitwit...as in they were there first.LOL
WTF,
Yes, Mexico took it from the Indians.
And the Indians took it from the Clovis...they took it from somebody else we don't have a good handle on yet. The Mexicans who've "taken" Texas and CA are actually Americans too, as much as people hate to acknowledge ti.
Nothing shady looking about that family just innocent victims on a holiday trip...
if they were blue eyed blondes, there would be a better effort to find what happened to them. as it stands they are on their own.
Sargent Pepper,That is a racist comment and not acceptable.
Looks like we have room for three more Illegals now.
Sargent pepper: Well it's not like we have a shortage of Mexicans in this country. There is more coming in every day.
Sargeant I don't care what their nationality is. It's like the idiots who travel to Iran or China or North korea. They are on their own the moment they cross the border. I don't believe our government should intervene at all.
justacleaninglady-Sargent's comment was not racist, its true. Sad but true. A fact. And sadly white privilege is acceptable to the majority of Americans or it wouldn't be true.
HollyLolly,I'm white.so what is your point/He made a racist remark,that's the bottom life.It is shameful that ignorance abounds in this country.
Mexico isn't much different than parts of Texas and California. Swm people. Same culture. Same foreigners.
it's not even safe to go to Mexico even if your mexican.....drug country inc.
Yes it is. you just have to know what you are doing and not get mixed up in anything.
No it is not safe, what part of daily killings do numnuts like you not understand? I live in Mission, Tx that's about 10 minutes away from the border, I used to cross over when it used to be safe. I am Hispanic and I used to have family across the border, but just because I know the streets and the way things run over there across or just because I am hispanic that does not make it safe for even myself to go over now. It has been around 6 years since the last time that I crossed over and it will probably be another 6 or more years before I do it again. A stray bullet is not prejudice. You morons need to listen to people such as myself (Hispanic with knowledge of the way things are currently working in Mexico) and do not go! It does not matter where you go, NO WHERE in Mexico is it safe. If you don't get shot, even if it's accidental then you will get kidnapped. If you do decide to go then good riddance that will be one less moron in the GREAT old US of A.
The U.S. has time and again advised people not to travel to Mexico unless it is to a tourist destination with a tour group.I am hoping that this family is found safe and sound.If it were my family, the not knowing would kill me.
The US give the warnings to their educated citizens, this guys are no citizens are mexicans,don't care about our concern or laws, are mexicans ! and the know their country, their thing,,,
Dude, LMAO, you need to go back to school and get some added education. Either that or have your mommy fill out the blank little square for you with words. Please.
Cellphones turned off equals probably dead. Maybe the local criminals wanted their car. As bad as this is, there is plenty of bad stuff happening every day in these United States. Where is the outrage?
Perhaps 0bammy cell phones don't work in messyco?
You obviously do not know Mexico these days, but if you really want to know, look it up, watch the video's if your stomach can handle it. People are decapitated by knife alive ect... you have no choice there anymore if you want to join a gang, your told you will, if you try to get off drugs, you will die. For all those that say Resorts are safe, think again, the crimes there have reached every resort city. The US has had advised not going anywhere in to Mexico for quite some time now, LISTEN! Dont Travel to Mexico, if you do, remember, you are risking your life! I would rather travel to Chicago anyday!
cell phones are turned off because don't wanted be located for the autorithies
You don't have to travel to Mexico. The U.S. is now a Suburb of Mexico. Thank you Greedy Businesses.
Maybe they just decided to stay