Just goes to show you that if you are rich, you are held to a different standard. If that was a low income family, the parents would have gotten life in prison, no doubt about it. My guess is they were covering for the girls older brother.

Sadly it happens everyday.

After reading this - i actually think the Jury voted on emotions and their beliefs as opposed to facts. The prosecutor indeed is a hero who avoided miscarriage of justice.

He was like 9 years old! I think they missed the real perp by focusing on the parents.

@lib50-- She was like 9 years old. But I'am not one of those brain swelled morons that always correct you. I'am just getting in here before they do. He made a error.

It always seemed to me that it was probably a pedophile who had fallen for her while watching a kiddie beauty pageant.

I don't know if they did it but I have a feeling they were involved somewhere in this mess regardless with covering it up or lying to the prosecutor, etc. This is one we will never know what happened

Jae-2463678 the white race??? What the hell is that supposed to mean?

ANY TRAINED PROSECUTOR CAN GET A GRAND JURY To INDICT A HAM SANDWICH; in a child death the investigation will always focus on a family member first; those who have studied the case always come to the same conclusion, no DNA match with the family members, no motive, no history of child neglect, unknown footprints outside of the basement window, no mental problems with any of the family adult members, and most of all no evidence pointing to any of the adult family members; no DA in his right mind would take a case such as that to a jury trial.

If I recall, Daddy found her in the basement but it wasn't until hrs after he started searching which gave the police suspicion.

I remember a couple times in my life where I turned around for a second and my daughter wandered off in the house. I shouted her name and ran all over the house immediately.

There's this hot flash slow motion feeling rush that starts from the front of your body and worked towards your back when this happens.

Jae:

WOW. Just goes to show racism is just fine as long as it's against whites. Shame on you.

People of ALL races are sick, including YOU for making that asinine statement.

Like the joke from the TV show Law & Order, you could get a ham sandwich indicted at a grand jury. The grand jury usually only hears the prosecution side of the case. The accused is allowed to speak before the grand jury but is not allowed a lawyer in the process and there is no ability to cross examine prosecution witnesses. Getting an indictment is far easier than actually proving a case in court. From the statement of the grand juror

"We didn't know who did what," a juror told the Daily Camera on the condition of anonymity. "[B]ut we feel the adults in the house may have done something that they certainly could have prevented, or they could have helped her, and they didn't."

it is pretty apparent that the grand jury indicted on emotion and supposition, not on any hard facts. The subsequent DNA test proving someone else was in the house shows that the prosecutor did the right thing in not pursuing the case. I think that the police and other investigators were so focused on the parents in the beginning that they overlooked contradictory evidence and failed to pursue other leads that may have lead to the real perpetrator. The parents were put on trial in the news media and were basically convicted until the DNA tests came back many years later that cleared them. This investigation was botched from the start by the prejudices of the investigators who leapt to conclusions without facts to support them and refused to consider other options even with the evidence staring them in the face. The worst part is that the person responsible will likely never be caught because the early investigation was botched so badly. The only way the person responsible will be caught at this point is if they commit another crime and a DNA match pops up.

As the DA's office is normally the one who takes a case to the grand jury, I have to wonder why he/she sent it to them. I don't know if they did or did not contribute to the child's death, it just seems odd to me that they would send the case and then complain about the indictment.

@Absolutely right, PJ..

There was NEVER any physical evidence to prove the Ramsey's were lying, in fact, just the opposite! There is no doubt in my mind, as well as most of law enforcement now, that JonBenet was murdered by a child molester who broke in when the family was asleep.. He probably saw JonBenet, either around the neighborhood or on TV.. I think the Ramsey family was treated horribly all through the investigation.. With not one speck of evidence to link them to the death they were STILL crucified by both the police AND the public! What a despicable miscarriage of justice the whole affair was and what's even more scary is it could happen to you, me or any other innocent family in this country!

In December 2003, forensic investigators extracted enough material from a mixed blood sample found on JonBenét's underwear to establish a DNA profile. The DNA belongs to an unknown male. The DNA was submitted to the FBI's Combined DNA Index System (CODIS), a database containing more than 1.6 million DNA profiles, mainly from convicted felons. The sample has yet to find a match in the database, although it continues to be checked for partial matches on a weekly basis, as are all unmatched samples. Later investigations also discovered that there were more than 100 burglaries in the Ramseys' neighborhood in the months before JonBenét's murder, and that 38 registered sex offenders were living within a two-mile (3 km) radius of the Ramseys' home—an area that encompasses half the population of the city of Boulder—but that none of the sex offenders could be proven to have had any involvement in the murder.

But one thing is fairly certain, the Ramsey's had NO involvement in the death of their beloved daughter, though I'm sure there are still many people out there, that refuse to believe it.. Really sad, considering no one is suppose to be pronounced guilty of a crime WITHOUT a fair and impartial trial! But once the police state publicly who they suspect of a crime that person is automatically assumed to be guilty in the eyes of the world and, often, even when found innocent by evidence in the crime, it's too late.. The public will never forget you were a suspect, even for a moment!

JoeDirt--the DNA said it couldn't be the older boy (at least not directly)

A Grand Jury opperates on a different level of evidence, so its much easier to indite that to prosecute

The DNA absolved the family of the crime. but I for one would not enter a child in a pageant where she was dressed like in suggestive clothes and wore adult make-up. I believe a child should be a child while they can, they have a lifetime to be adult.

The parents are guilty for sexualizing their very young daughter. Just look at Toddlers and Tiaras the pedophiles' dream show. When we do that to our daughters it invites predators both in and outside of our homes. Read this week's NY Times Magazine about the thriving child pornography world and the father's, uncles and other family members of these young girls who contribute to that world. It's horrendous and disgraceful. The punishments don't seem to fit the crimes in most cases.

Since the DA is the one to take a case before the Grand Jury which they do "supposedly" when they feel they have sufficient evidence or a belief that they have the guilty parties...........then why bring it before them if you feel that you don't have enough evidence. I don't have a clue who killed her or if her parents had any involvement in this but the whole thing doesn't sound right from the DA's office.

Our and for that matter all criminal justice systems in the world are iffy. Only once in my life have I been on the worng side of the law and I was innocent. In fact it was easy to show how It could not have been me as I was not even in the city at the time it happened. I secured what was thought to be a reputable lawyer and he told me to plead guilty cause they had good evidence that I did it. I fired him and later found out they (some lawyers) make deals for their more high profile clients by getting things "off the books for the DA's" so they can get a better deal for their richer clients. I go another lawyer and the case was thrown out as meritless.

Every day we see another person walking out of jail as new evidence comes out that they were jailed wrongly. This is why there are people who oppose the maximum death penalty because we will neve know for sure in some cases whether the person being executed was the right person or some pelt in a DA's belt as he wanders on to his political career later in life. I am mystified that this went to a grand jury when they had insufficient evodence to prosecute or they were up against a timeline and had to take it there while they tried to prove the case. I always felt sorry for the Ramsey's for the badgering they took over this. A lot of times people get away with crimes because the Nancy Grace type prosecutors go down one path they think is right and ignore everything that does not fit their thoughts. The entire justice system in America needs fixing all the way up to the Supreme court.

"JSinSD" & "Seabreezin'" .... Excellent Post! .....

@creek dog..I know what you mean , I was in Sam Ash Music once about 14 years ago with my youngest daughter, she was 3 at the time and I became briefly distracted checking out a guitar when she decided to play hide & seek on me....my God for 3 minutes I was in an absolute state of panic in the store looking for her...till she came out of a round rack of t-shirts she was hiding in giggling....after that I said the hek with the guitars , I'm going home

There has never been a doubt in my mind the Ramsey were innocent, from the start. They adored the daughter and in my minds eye, they suffered because of the prejudice the media and the public had against them The only crime, they were responsible for, was allowing their daughter, to participate in beauty pageants. Pageants like this must be a pedophiles dream.

I had a chance to watch the "dance Moms" the other day. I could not believe my eyes, when I heard this dance instructor talk the way she did to these children. And the worst part, the mothers allowed her to do it! What are they thinking? I realize these people must be paid for their roles, in this farce but there is not enough money, in the world, that would allow this big mouth know nothing, treat my loved one, like she treats these impressionable girls. In another ten years, these same girls will be in therapy and some personality will interview them because they have low self esteem or an ego, that causes them, to be rejected by society. Either way, these "Dance Moms" should be ashamed for allowing this over inflated egotist, who cannot dance, to treat their daughters, with such disrespect.

Jon Bennet and was a cute little girl. So is my grand daughter. There are millions of little girls, in this world who do not wear makeup and wiggle their little bottoms, at the audience. Kids have enough pressure on them, in the high tech, competitive life. Why would anyone, want their child to live in a circus atmosphere, were in matters more about how you look and how you see yourself. Childhood goes by so fact. I have said this many times,"If I could go back and do it over again, knowing what I know now, I would not let other people's opinions matter."

I believe these beauty pageants are child abuse. It should be enough, for a child and their parents, to have a loving family, who all believe, their little one is special. The competition should be stopped. We need to build our children's egos by encouraging them to be themselves.

Again, I am so sorry for the Ramsey family. They could not even mourn their daughter's death because of all the publicity. Thank God for the district attorney Mr. Hunter was right in his actions and he deserves, cudos for not bending to public pressure.

There is only one subject that no one has address. This pedophile is still out there.

Ewent: Back to your meds please. You can go lay down and watch Harry Potter now. Don't you think the family was turned inside out?

Prosecutors send cases to a grand jury when they don't have the balls to take responsibility for the indictment themselves. If an easily led grand jury indicts then the prosecutor just says he is following their lead.Gutless bastards

I still believe, based on the parents actions just before the police arrived, that the Son accidentally killed his sister.

Keeping in mind that JonBenet received much more attention then he ever got, that siblings can develop envy issues and how the parents took him out of the house and hid him (I think at a neighbors) just before the police arrived--- states too much. Why would they hide him from the police under the disguise of trying to protect him for the scene which he had already seen.

I do believe that the kids were playing and that by accident he hit on the head a bit too hard; hence killing her. It could have been a stick, bat or hammer who knows but I do think that they were playing and it got out of hand.

The way the parents moved out of state so rapidly also initiates a thought that they wanted to get their son away from the police and potential questioning about the incident. Not once was their son's interviews, if any, ever publized as theirs were. Was the son interviewed or protected from possibly leeking the truth.

"There is no doubt in my mind, as well as most of law enforcement now, that JonBenet was murdered by a child molester who broke in when the family was asleep..

The DNA belongs to an unknown male. The DNA was submitted to the FBI's Combined DNA Index System (CODIS), a database containing more than 1.6 million DNA profiles, mainly from convicted felons. The sample has yet to find a match in the database . . "

No doubt Sea' is incapable of seeing the contradictions in his (?) assertions. The child was murdered by a child molester who, in 13 or more years, has never committed another crime? Cannot be found in a data base of 1.6 million? Unknown male? Unknown to whom? Were DNA samples gotten from every male who ever had any contact with the Ramseys? They may well have had a social relationship with the killer.

At the end of the day, Ramseys were, in fact, guilty of child abuse. From toddlerhood they tarted up that poor child to a pedophile's dream. There are pedophiles in boardrooms, people. They are not just creepy monsters lurking in alleys.

"Forensic pathologist Robert Kirschner also said that the injuries to JonBenet were consistent with long-term sexual abuse." [from the Jon Benet Ramsey case encyclopedia]

It is absurd to expect anyone to believe John and Patsy Ramsey did not know their child was routinely, and systematically used for someone's sick perversion. I posit that they found it expedient to ignore what was being done to her. It is not beyond the bounds of possibility that they were complicit. It's been said their was no mental illness in the family. Really? How, then, does one account for Patsy Ramsey? She may not have been mentally ill by DSM-R or legal standards but the woman was not mentally healthy. She used her own child for the gratification of her own ego at the very least. One has to wonder if John Ramsey has ever faced up to his role in his daughter's death.

jack...off the booze addiction? John Ramsey would have paid anything he had to keep it from ever being known anyone in his immediate family was a child murderer. How naive are you? A wealthy man has a lot at stake if his family name is smeared thusly. How would it have looked to John Ramsey's wealthy cronies to have a wife in prison for murdering her kid? Money talks. John Ramsey's did one whole hell of a lot of talking If they can solve the murder of Etan Patz after nearly 3 decades, why can't they solve this one?

NO...they didn't turn the Ramsey's inside out. They gave them the gentle hand because John Ramsey's money has clout. Only a stupid person wouldn't know that.

We didn't know who did what," a juror told the Daily Camera on the condition of anonymity. "[B]ut we feel the adults in the house may have done something that they certainly could have prevented, or they could have helped her, and they didn't."

How about this grand jury reasoning for an indictment? They may have, or they could have.

I suppose this is why it is said grand juries are intentionally comprised of a collection of idiots so prosecutors could get an indictment against a ham sandwich if they wanted to. Grand juries are for show only as it's the Prosecutors that determine whether an indictment is returned, and if the grand jurors do something else, they're ignored.

Ewent...Apparently it is not just your politics that are crazy. You are really weird on a whole range of subjects. You can just speculate on any subject and urge lifetime imprisonment for whoever. Why would we need courts, jurys, judges, etc. when you could just spend full time telling the world what is right and wrong and who is guilty and who is innocent. Forget that other crazy thing...you know the proof thing...

It was Patsy Ramsey who claimed to have found a ransom note on their staircase. If the son's killed his sister, that makes no sense. The son surely wouldn't have taken the time at 9 years old to write a ransom note, would he? And, the fact that Patsy Ramsey was the one who found the note and not John Ramsey ties her more directly to the case than anyone else. The evidence was botched. Today, handwriting experts would be able to identify the writer of the ransom note. Why haven't they?

JA...when you scrape away all of the contrived "evidence," it still comes down to the central focus on Patsy Ramsey. Patsy Ramsey found the ransom note. Where is the writer of that ransom note? Magically disappeared?

If your child was murdered, would you adopt John Ramsey's passive attitude about finding your child's murderer? He isn't pursuing it and even moved out of CO to distance himself from it. What kind of father of a murdered child does that? As for your attitude...pure rightie...can't stand truth or facts. Proof is what determines guilt but righties like you don't ever feel they can be guilty of anything. It's called irresponsible lack of accountability.

ewent

why do you say Patsy was sickly and "riddled with cancer"? She died of cancer 10 years after her daughter's death. She was not dying or sick at the time of JonBenet's murder.

That said. They did do handwriting analysis on the note and could not rule Patsy out as the writer. I personally have always felt that it was the son, who had mental stability issues even before his sister's death, and that the parents tried to cover it up. I don't blame them really fro this. They'd lost their daughter and there was nothing to do about that, but they could try to protect their son.

Even if this isn't the case, the move out-of-state is obvious. Would you want to stay where your child was killed, where you'd been front page news for months? Or would you go looking for a little anonimity somewhere new?

Apparently it is a very slow news day for the media to feel the need to rehash news from 1999. The facts are that this was a tragedy and the police failed to attempt to find anyone other than a family member as the murderer. To rehash it years later is pointless.

With all this talk as of late about how mentally ill persons should not be able to get a gun......well. ewent is Exhibit A.

Good gawd lady, get some mental health help. I've read your other posts on other stories. You're a stark raving lunatic. I hope you are NEVER considered for any jury trial.

Jenn..Not true...Patsy underwent medical testing for cancer six months before her daughter's death. The cancer was detected shortly after her daughter's death. One of the reasons for their move to VA was for medical treatment that she was to begin. Yes. She did die 10 years after. Apparently, there was a family history of cancer on her maternal side. She wasn't from CO originally. I believe one of the southern states. She also had other lesser medical ailments, not life threatening. I recall reading about her younger days as a beauty queen. I believe she managed to win a state pageant but didn't make the Miss America finals as she had hoped.

What sort of nonsense reporting is this????? The Ramseys were completely exonerated by DNA evidence in 2008 and a full apology was given to the Ramseys. Why is this suddenly a news story again? Are you hard up for something to talk about?

Some crazed person came in their house and killed JonBenet and no one ever found that person.... who is still out there probably preying on other little girls (and Mrs. Ramsey is dead). Crazy people go in houses that aren't theirs and do awful things to children.... look at that poor girl in Utah, and look at the maniac from Northern Idaho who killed the mom and step dad, took the kids, killed the boy and they finally got the girl back and caught him. (And he'd done it before in California).

I call this lousy news reporting and sensationalism... haven't we had anything awful enough to write about lately that you have to stoop to this?

jac...a mentally ill person is one who judges others mentally ill. Get it yet? I read the entire case history of this murder. Did you? Or do you just like to judge others to show your superiority?

If anyone shouldn't have a gun, it's a person who is mentally defective enough to quickly judge others. Do you have a PhD? If not, you show your hummingbird brain is smaller than your elephant mouth.

You know what I think is hugely amusing? The same people who are so quick to dismiss this murder are the same ones who came down like a town of brick on OJ Simpson's guilt. Same type of case.

If there was a pedophile, did the evidence show she was sexually molested? After all...as John Ramnsey stated, he found her hours later. That pedophile had plenty of time to do more than garrot the little girl. As for the brother, if the evidence is to be believed, both children would have had to be awake at the time of the murder with no one watching either of them or hearing them playing anywhere in the house. Is that likely for loving, caring parents? Don't most parents know where their children are when they are in the house so they don't endanger themselves?

I knew a woman, who knew Mr. Ramsey...and said he was a peculiar man, not that it makes him guilty, but she said she would not be at all surprised if the parents to be charged.

It was the son who killed his sister. The parents tried to cover it up. It was an impuslive act if immature sibling rage. Kids will be kids...and occasionally dangerous. I knew a boy about the smae age who swung a lamp post at his sister that caused a concusion. They grew up to laugh about it but he was always deeply regretful, and would shake his head at his impulsive stupid anger...over a pointless, childish arguement.

When they made the emergency call to the police, you could hear the mother in the background insisting that her son go back to bed.

They lost one child to the other, so they had to concoct a coverup so they wouldn't lose the second child to a cold hearted system. There was no evidence of prior abuse, unless you think that beauty pagent auditions are abusive, (Honey Boo Boo).

They were loving and intelligent parents. If either would have been the killer, the other would have turned them in. But if the 9 year old boy did it, they would have stumbled over a hasty cover up plan...they did. The note was written by the parents (Patsy's handwriting) in to thwart the investigation

The Boulder Police figured it all out. They wanted a statement of truth or confession, which never came. The Boulder police suffered the indignity of looking like bumblers when they were not.

What I said above is pure speculation, but something to think about. This is a tragedy, and there was no justice to be served at the end of the day.

Ewent, You really have no idea what you are talking about. For one, the Ramsey's burglar alarms weren't activated, and the butler pantry's door was open, as well as a broken window in the basement. There were no foot prints in the snow, because all the paths, walkways and driveway were cleared of snow, it would have been very easy to avoid walking in snow. Just look at the crime scene photos.

The writer of the ransom note hasn't been found until you have handwriting to match it to. They haven't matched it because they haven't found the perp.

JR moved out of CO because he is originally from Atlanta. His kids and wife are buried there and his family and friends are there and he was canned when GE bought out Access Graphics.

I am very intrigued by the Grand Jury's findings. Perhaps the Ramseys were involved somehow, but most of the evidence points away from them. If you had any correct knowledge of the case, you would see that. Please don't be an insane person and throw out accusations about something you know nothing about.

hey jae...why don't you sit on your thumb and jam it up your dumb arse.you just might tickle your brain you f-in racist.

charles, what are you talking about?! JB's cause of death was strangulation! It wasn't an accidentally strong smack to the head. Do you know how brutal and how long it takes to choke someone to death?! (please don't try)

Doesn't the DNA of an unknown male not related to the Ramseys mean anything to anyone??

Quit blaming the poor 9 year old.

All I know is that the whole case turned into a giant circus and we've seen time and again in cases like this that become high profile media spectacles that in the end we seem to be left slightly confused and on the fence about what really happened and never satisfied without the outcome - with the perp more or less walking free.

The police botched the case, the media compounded everything ten fold further causing the police to screw up, parents likely didn't do it but good chance they knew more than they let on or where part of a cover up that may or may not of included the older child, but in the end a little girl died, we will likely never know the true story, and the responsible party appears to have more or less got away with it.

Oh and the fact that child beauty pageants, IMO, are sick and twisted (screams to get attention from pedophiles) and more often than not the parent(s) putting their kids in them have issues. If there was a way to outlaw them without effecting any other free speech laws ect, I would support it in a heartbeat.

It is time

The parents did it; Money talks, BS walks! No doubt about it.

Blaming a 9 year old for strangling his sister is not only ridiculous, it's victimizing HIM! do you really believe a 9 year old would have the strength it would take to strangle a 6 year old, or know how to use a ligature??

If i remember correctly, Mr. Ramsey was well-connected politically in Bolder. The prosecuter was basically pressured by several outside forces into taking the case to the grand jury. The public opinion was hoping for the indictment, and the politically motivated was hoping for a "no bill". Apparently the "no bill" fgailed to materialize, so the chief prosecutor was forced to decide not to sign the indictment. He probably did the right thing, as the case really was probably not ready for any sort of prosecution, and refusing to accept the grand jury's finding allowed him to leave the case open in case further evidence came to light that would improve the case. Had he accepted the findings, the case would have had to be taken to trial, where he would most likely lose, and the Ramseys then would not ever be able to tried again if the truth did come out.

I personally believe someone in the family did it, but couldnt' say who. Too much misinformation was spread around, but the evidence is very weak for it being an intruder. The person almost certainly would have to have been in the house that night before the alarm system was set.

Ewent: You are kind of creepy in a weird sort of way. Like you get into to this a little too much.

You don't read too closely, as there was a broken window, there was DNA evidence on the child and none matched anyone in the family.

Do you actually think her brother, a young kid, could murder his sister and leave NO evidence; no DNA, no fingerprints, no anything? It takes an incredibly deranged person to molest and kill this child the way she died.

Unfortunately, I believe it was someone who stalked this child, molested and killed her.

@bonos_rama: A nine-year old could most definitely strangle a 6 year old girl. Back when my son was in third grade, he broke up an incident on the playground where one boy was strangling another boy. (Now, that was an interesting talk with the principle.)

The parents did NOT do it, nor did the brother. The Prosecutor did the right thing. I too like Judy never believed the parents did it. Jeez a murder in Bolder where no one gets killed and it is the police first of its kind. They went for the parents and no one else from the get go! Oh and yes, what about that unknown DNA they found years later???? There is a pedophile still out there.

No doubt the case was mishandled from the outset..intentionally. Why? John Ramsey had money, clout and was an upstanding citizen of the community and business world.

There should be an investigation of ALL people involved in the investigation and justice should be served, whether it be the jury, judge, law enforcement, prosecutor, John Ramsey and son, etc.

This is disgusting and despicable and acknowledges what we all have known for years, the justice system is broken and seems as if no one cares.

Well, if they have the DNA from the child's underwear, maybe someday a DNA match will come up on the national database and this mystery will be solved. If some random pervert did this, then he is probably still out there and will keep molesting children until he is caught.

Historical news......MSN must be having a slow day being no one got shot with a AR15 today.

Not only was Jon Benet strangled, the perpetrator used a garot. Anyone here who wants to argue that Burke Ramsey could successfully apply a garot, will undoubtedly have an uphill battle.

Maybe the Ramseys did it, maybe they didn't. A lot of questionable things happened (ransom note, etc). The problem is that no prosecutor could ever get a conviction if he could not account for the DNA evidence that was found on Jon Benet's body. Any good defense attorney would go right to that, and use it to nullify any case against the Ramseys. A lot of people here obviously think that the Ramseys did it, and there is evidence to suggest that they might have. The problem is that there is also evidence that points away from the Ramseys. In the end, there is more than reasonable doubt. This is what the prosecutor saw in this case, which is why he declined to prosecute.

....and then they found DNA on the body, and at the crime scene belonging to no one in the house. Lazy ass-ed cops & prosecutors go after parents first in these cases, without doing any investigative work whatsoever. This particular prosecutor is lucky he didn't charge the Ramsey's. He would have gotten his head handed to him, and would have lost his job.

I feel horribly that this poor little baby was abused, and subsequently killed. The fact that her loving parents were initially looked at as suspects in the case only makes it worse. If cops would stay away from the donut shops and do their jobs, perhaps we'd find criminals like the one who did this, and put more of them in jail.

Patsy is dead and John will never spill on what happened. The Boulder police department totally screwed up the whole case including evidence and the crime scene. So sad. What a beautiful (without all the makeup) child she was. Not one of Colorado's shining moments. Kinda like Casey Baby Killer in Florida. Shame on Florida for that one as well.

Silverton, my thoughts exactly; and it has happened. I remember reading fairly recently where an unsolved crime got solved finally by dna of person responsible. I think, if I'm not mistaking, he was already in prison for a similar crime. I wonder if authorities have run a data base, if possible, for people who might have commited a similar crime and been convicted on that crime. I'm no police detective, but seems logical they should do that.

I also agree, Jon Benet was exploited by her parents because of her young beauty. I have seen girls that age wearing bikinis at swimming pool at apt. complex where I live and just have to wonder what was mom and dad thinking.

Apparently America learned nothing from the OJ Simpson case. If you recall, the crime scene was not secured by the police in the moments following the discovery and it was John Ramsey that discovered Jonbenet AFTER the police had searched the house. Nearly any kind of evidence that could have been collected would have been easy for the Ramsey's and their high dollar attorneys to defeat due to the possibility of evidence contamination. Some of you are right that the DA did the right thing by not continuing with a case that could not be won. Better to wait for the possibility of new evidence that ultimately never came.

I was right, JonBenet was 6 and her brother was 9. I think anybody who accuses a 9 year old is out to lunch, at least in this case. I never felt the perp was a family member.

Carleton123

Dec 14 2011

STOCKHOLM (AP) — Police in Sweden say a 10-year-old boy has confessed to killing a 4-year-old boy in a village earlier this year.

Police said Wednesday the boy strangled the younger one with a skipping rope Oct. 16, but declined to comment on the motive.

Local media reports say the 4-year-old was killed after running off from a playground in the southern village of Ljungby where he had been involved in a dispute with other children.

Happened just last year.

Really, it's disappointing how people here are repeating untruths about this case, including Patsy's cancer (yes, she had cancer around the time of JonBenet's death) and the fact that the inexperienced Boulder police searched the house first, stopped at the stuck door to the basement room where the girl was found, then told John Ramsey to search the house, when a little research would clear up all of these misconceptions.

Highly recommended:

"Investigative Reports: What Went Wrong - Anatomy of An Investigation": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cw1w3zZXeY (Part I)

Really, people, before you start spouting off, do a little background research, and I mean research, not just googling and gawking. Many of the documents - neutral sources - are available online. This is not about us; this is not a commenting war. This is a murdered little girl that we are talking about.

She is not "turf."

Oh please, the police blew this case from the start!!! First, by not securing the crime scene. It seemed evident that the father expected the police to find the little girl and when they didn't he made the excuse to go get folding chairs and "discovered" her; located in a corner of the basement storage room (this happened AFTER the police "searched" the home)... What kind of police dept. allows people to traipse in and out of the scene of a crime? What kind of police dept allows people to handle the body of a murder victim, "contaminating it" with his DNA? I was convinced the parents had something to do with the child's death, and I was sure the DA would never be able to convict anyone after all of that. I also saw the parents at the funeral...with the mother draped in black (and a weeping mess), but the father was all "business as usual"... then they refused to speak with police?

Why weren't they taken from the scene and the home searched in the first place? Answer: because they had money and connections.... which is they were able to manipulate the scene and why neither could ever charged with anything and successfully prosecuted. Wake up America, parents kill their children all the time.... but only the wealthy ones are treated differently.

The parents were tried and found guilty by the press, if the right crazy had been inflamed, they would have gotten their execution, it may happen yet.

Look at all the school killings they have stirred up? What, you think these killings are coincidental, naïve much?

@stonepipe2

How the Hell do you hurt a kid? Unbelievable.

Yes Stonepipe2 it is unbelievable, and sadly it has become an accepted form of entertainment. Think I am kidding ask Josh Shipp of the Lifetime Network show "Troubled Teen" why he is sending children to Diamond Ranch Academy and ask him about the death of Jim Shirely that happened at DRA.

Better yet read about these abusive Residential treatment centers and the horrible child abuse that happens inside their walls.

Josh Shipp has no credentials in child therapy of any kind. Think I am lying google "Josh Shipp and troubled teen exposed" and you will find systemic serial child abuse that is now an accepted form of entertainment.

Who would have thought that serial child abuse would be entertaining. It is just sickening, and right infront of our very noses. Lifetime Network promotes sadistic criminal child abuse thru the television show "trouble Teen"

Yes how in the hell do you hurt a child, just ask the survivors,the lucky ones how it happens and who does it.

The parents may not have been guilty of murder but for sure they were guilty of child perversion ....

Rightly or not ... the public indirectly accused them because of this obvious abuse ... if they could do that to that little girl ... they could do this ...

Just goes to show you that if you are rich, you are held to a different standard. If that was a low income family, the parents would have gotten life in prison, no doubt about it.

Well, joe dirt, without doubting your general precept, that money buys you a bit more "justice", the prosecutor in this case may have been quite right in his assessment, that given the amount of evidence available to him, and its quality, he would be unable to successfully prosecute the case.

While I suspect the Grand Jury was right in its sense as to where the guilt lay, feelings are not of any evidentiary value, and I'd blame the initial crime scene investigator, not the prosecutor, for failing to properly lock down and examine the crime scene immediately after the body was found. Maybe they were just imcompetant. Maybe they were just too chicken-sh!t to stand up to a high-pressure, high-profile family, such as the Ramseys, which goes to support your point.

BTW: I consider such beauty contests, which have little girls striving to look like sexy, adult women, when they should be making mud pies or playing with dolls in the back yard, abuse, even without the apparent sexual assault and murder which occurred in the Ransey Case.

Tragedy all around.

Once again, I have no idea what IWonder-932455 is talking about.

Ha ha ha ha, well amused, at least I am consistent, right?

For you newscover, perhaps, you are personally acquainted with these folks, otherwise, you have an opinion and an a-hole and both probably stink.

I know a girl who has been extremely extroverted since she was a baby. Her mother was divorced and tried to support the child but she struggled to supply the essentials for herself and her two daughters. She certainly had neither the time or money to "push" her daughter.

There are "stage" mothers but I did not know this benet lady, so, I can't say?

Confused amused muse. :)

The second great unexplained thing about the murder is the ranson note. Remember how the note had several statements that only were privy to the family. Mr. Ramsey's year end bonus was exactly the amount that the note said was wanted by the kidnapper. By chance maybe. Although it was a odd amount to ask for $118K and a low amount to try to extort from a millionaire. But there were other things like it referred to "Don't underestimate us, John. Use that good, Southern common sense of yours." which was a family inside joke because Patsy was from the south John was not. That note was writen on paper from the house with a pen from the house. Kidnappers don't wait until they get into the house to take time to write the note.

someone else said it earlier, but it bears repeating--this case was doomed from the first 5 minutes. It's a textbook study in how Not to conduct an investigation into a suspected missing person that turned into a murder case. I don't think one correct police procedure was followed during the course of the search of that house.

The law enforcement apparatus in Colorado sure tends to find a way to screw up a lot more than you'd expect in a state with the population they have.

What in the world? Just how trashy do people have to get before the quacking makes you call them a duck? That little girl was abused from the time she was a toddler. Imagine making your baby into a sex object and parading her around in public like that! You don't think that is CHILD ABUSE?

For god's sake. What is the matter with people? Are you really that blind and confused about what is and is not appropriate for a child?

What kind of man would let his baby daughter be dressed up like a whore and displayed to other men? What do you think happened when mommy caught daddy playing with his little Barbie doll? And why do you think that child was still wetting the bed?

I hope that b*tch is burning in hell and as for that excuse for a man.... I hope he eventually goes to prison where he belongs. Creepy POS.

Confused amused muse. :)

IWonder, please stop.

The way the Ramsey's whored out their child, it would be easy for a pedophile to target her. This ENTIRE case was botched from the get go.

Like other's have said, there's no way a 9 year old would have the strength to strangle a 6 year old, especially not when he was a skinny little kid.

I do find it odd though, that the John Ramsey ended up dating Beth Halloway, you know, the mother of missing Natalee Halloway.

Honestly, I read that paragraph and realized the prosecutor did the proper thing. That jury voted on emotion and not facts.

Money can buy anything..

The grand jury works on different requirements. It was designed to keep out the obvious miscarriages of justice not to be a "mini trial". Most places it comes down to only hearing the prosecutions side and then saying is there a good chance they did it, not can you prove they have done it.

Money can buy anything..

And just how does that relate to this case. Do you have proof money altered this case or are you like the GJ in wasting time speculating?

breadex...Taxpayers don't have proof that K-Street lobbyists are sidled up to our politicians and investing billions into special interests either.

If you read the histories of wealthy families down through the ages, there is more hidden in the dark shadows that any of us have the money to hide.

Ewent,

Post your proof that they paid someone off.

Down through most of your post, your insistence and fixation on Patsy Ramsey makes you appear extremely jealous, enough to commit libel by making the definite statements about her after the DA declared her innocent. You also show a leaning toward being jealous of the Ramsey's in general.

That said, I wasn't sure then or now who did it. They (the Ramsey's) have been found innocent by a lack of evidence. The one thing I will say for sure is that if it is found that they did have something to do with it, then the remaining creeper should spend the rest of his life in jail.

For the record, I personally still find the extremes they go to in the pageants to be pretty creepy and am curious why anyone would put their child in that position. Until there is any proof that there is really any connection between the pageants and deviant behavior or abuse however, it isn't mine to say they should shut them down.

Hey, it is the "Golden Rule" i.e., he who has the gold, makes the rules. In addition to this, I believe any parent who fluffs up their child like a little prostitute should be charged wit felony child endangerment! I have only seen the reality show regarding this "hobby" or what ever it is, in passing by the channel, but how can parents do this to their child?

Actually, there is plenty of evidence that K Street lobbyists buddy up to our legislators. It's there for all to see, every day. For God's sake, Tom Daschle's wife was a lobbyist when he was Senate Majority Leader.

At the moment, the only lobbyists that people are bitching about is the NRA. While in fact, "The Lobby" is the fourth and perhaps most powerful branch of our government! Now that corporations are "people" there is no stopping it!

I'm confused. Isn't it the prosecutor that decides whether or not to present a case to the grand jury in the first place?

The standard for a grand jury is lower than for prosecution--"probable cause" to charge rather than guilt beyond "reasonable doubt". What is probable or reasonable is, to my mind, hard to get a grip on. Most state grand juries do not hear evidence in favor of the accused and prosecutors are not required to present that evidence. People on grand juries tend to be swayed by the aura of authority police and prosecution evidence before them, votes do not have to be unanimous, and they can reassure themselves that trial will take care of any questions about the evidence (although in our system indictment is generally tantamount to conviction since most people who are charged plead out). The Ramsey case should remind us that given enough random dots coinciding with a crime, most of us could be in deep trouble having done nothing wrong.

Most of these people who are commenting have watched too much TV. They really only have the news papers and TV to tell them what happened. They want to sell newspapers and improve ratings; so what if the press ruins someones life and reputation? Remember, if you are tried for a crime and exonerated, you can not be tried again for the crime, even if there is some irrefutable evidence that comes up. The DA did the right thing; unfortunately, they were tried and convicted in the press and the press has no liability for what they said.

No, they aren't monsters. They are a family who has endured the unthinkable, and now have to relive this. The Ramsey's were cleared. Evidence points to an intruder (The open basement window, movement of the window well grate and the presence of leaves and debris in the basement below the open window, a fresh foot print in the cellar that didn't belong to either Patsy or John Ramsey, etc. etc.). This family has suffered enough, and having the media rehash what people thought at the time is irrelevant to the investigation and painful for the family.

Who are monsters? The Grand Jury who was willing to prosecute innocent people because they were sure one of the parents must have done something, even though they didn't know what? You are absolutely right! People need to read the article, not just the headlines. The article clearly states that DNA evidence completely ruled out any member of her family in the crime, only not until years later, when DNA evidence started to be used more regularly.

You're an idiot. They didn't do it. The level of proof before a grand jury, who hears nothing contradictory is minimal, very minimal.

Casey Anthony at the very least, stood trial and was acquitted based upon sheer lack of evidence....

we all know casey did it...justice did not prevail...evidence or not....

They did not kill their daughter, evidence later proved that.

Devara1234

The broken window based on police video footage shows the glass to be broken on the outside, which means it was broken from the inside. Glass breaks in the force given upon it. It also shows that the glass has spider webs in it. Which means the window was broken way prior to this incident happening.

There are a lot of flaws in both sides of the case.

But in Casey's case the public will not let it go.. the investigators have yet to dig for information on Casey's father and mother.. they'd rather waste time and more money chasing Casey.. the public did exactly the same thing to the Ramseys.. the law has sppoken,, NOT GUILTY

Kelsey... you need to rethink what u are saying.. there has been a tool available to anyone , glass workers, thiefs and more.. it is a suction cup that when attached to a window will pull it right out.. I suspect that is how the intruder got into the Ramsey's home.... so back to THIEF school for you :-)

casey's car wreaked of death...

Kelsey, I agree.

And there were also those "practice" ransom notes on Patsy's notepad. I am not convinced either way.

They placed that child in harms way by putting her into what I think are absurd and provocative child beauty pageants. These pageants attract all varieties of crazy and evil individuals especially pedophiles. These children are dressed as adults and taught to behave coquettishly creating a lure for lascivious demented individuals. The Ramseys and all parents who do this are guilty of abuse and endangerment.

Children who do not participate in pageants are killed every day. If a pedophile is responsible for JonBenet's death, it isn't because of the pageants or her looks. Some of the most heinous murders of children (and they're all heinous) are committed against average--looking kids.

we all know casey did it...justice did not prevail...evidence or not....

Living proof our justice system is flawed. You my friend watch too much Nancy Grace. You are ok with railroading people into jail but hate the system if it does not go according to your thought. I for one do not believe one thing you said. So the we all know part you posted is bogus.

The crime scene was contrived. If there was an open basement window...where were the footsteps in the deep snow outside? And if the Ramsey's were having a party that evening as John Ramsey stated, how would no one hear a break-in with a sophisticated security alarm system? Or do you want to believe that the Ramsey had no valuables they wanted to protect? Such as their son and daughter? DUH

RS-2107571, you're right but as I said just a little bit ago when you see moms and dads who will allow their 6 or 7-yr-old daughter to go to a pool wearing a bikini she's inviting leers from strange men. I've also seen this at water parks.

I would imagine if they were having a big party the alarm system would not be turned on, as you would have so many coming and going. And since it was snowing it wouldn't be too hard to cover up any tracks when the perp left. It's plausible someone at the party did this, but I'm sure all in attendance were checked thoroughly. I don't care how wealthy you are, a cop and DA don't make much money and it would be a huge feather in their cap to take down a big fish.

RS-2107571 (and others) a difference exists between teaching a child esteem and social skills, and hanging a 'come and get me sign' upon the child.

No, no. DNA is worthless and obviously wrong if it doesn't return the expected results. Since everyone expected the parents to be the killers the DNA results are obviously and irrevocably wrong.... ;)

I did a forensic linquistic analysis of the ransom note. The note was written by a person whose native language was not English but Spanish. All of the classic grammatical mistakes were in that note. Any spanish interpreter could see that. STEVIE WONDER could see that.

This analysis went to the DA, the police and the Ramsey's investigator. Nobody else was interested in the truth except the family.

Burke was a child, he was incapable of making the knot on the garrote (a medieval spanish torture instrument) that choked the child. Whoever did this was an intruder and was long gone when the parties focused attention on the parents.

The DNA found on the body of JonBenet Ramsey could have been there before her death...the intruder theory is so lame, it was shocking that it was given any credence. It is my belief that JonBenet wasn't murdered, but possibly it was a case of involuntary manslaughter by a member of the family. At any rate, the Boulder Police deserve a great deal of criticism for their poor handling of the investigation. When the FBI was asked for help, one of the first questions they asked of the BPD was whether or not the parents had been separated and interrogated, since most suspicious and wrongful deaths of a child in their home (in the United States) are caused by a family member, it was more than reasonable that the parents in this case were primary persons of interest. The Ramseys were allowed to call the shots from the beginning of the investigation. How many of us, if accused of murder, would be allowed to dictate what questions police and journalists could ask of us? The Ramseys dictated the scope of the investigation, the questions asked, and even were granted a newsconference. Their very generic and generalized description of a suspect to the public, I'm guessing, would've described only @ 3,000 men in the Boulder area at the time. The DA and the Ramsey's defense team seemed to bend over backwards to avoid the Ramseys being seen as culprits. My guess (another one) is that the killer of JonBenet Ramsey is dead. We are all left to conjecture.

When have you ever heard of manslaughter or accidental death being staged to look like murder?

Since the Ramsey family was innocent of any participation in their daughters death, why wouldn't their defense team

" ..bend over backwards to avoid the Ramseys being seen as culprits?"

I am amazed that even after the family has been cleared by DNA ... and absolutely exonerated by by persecutors & experts evolved in the case .... that there are people posting here ( that have done nothing more than read about the case, and have had no personal involvement) still maintain the Ramsey families involvement in the death of their daughter!

"Justice is Blind?" .. Reading Newsvine comments you quickly realize how misleading & false that "expression" is!

The Ramsey family is the ultimate victim in this case ... bearing the pain for their entire lives of their daughters death and the judgement of the ignorant ...

The William Woodward case is one example.

The brother, Burke, has always been the speculation although never proved. But I think he was more involved then proved thanks to his parents protecting him. A true head scratcher..... I do not believe they will ever solve this case.

Those shows are just television for pedophiles. Why would any responsible parent put a child through one of those pageants. It is just mothers trying to live vicariously through their little girls. The damage they do to the mentality of those children is nothing short of child abuse.

it's not only vanity, it is teaching children the wrong values. Children do not need to pretend to be grown as they behave in totally misleading and confusing ways. To see a six year old act like a show girl is distressing. It attracts pedophiles and sexual perverts. That said, we will likely never know who killed her. It may have been averted, had she not been a "beauty pageant " freak.

I tried watching an episode of "Toddlers and Tiaras" with a friend of mine. I got angry at these "parents". The little girls were whiny, disrespectful brats and the mothers were no better. I agree that it is a form of child abuse. It definitely damages the child's brain and emotionally stability.

Now this friend won't watch anything with gays in it because she is a christian, but she loves this mind numbing show. Go figures . . .

dragos, you do realize it was the prosecuter who decided not to pursue the case? The one that presents evidence to a grand jury for an indictment.

You also realize they use the grand juries for testing their case, and in this case the jurors came back indicating they don't know what happened, but felt they had to do something...

It appears the DA concluded they didn't have a strong enough case...and based on that jurors statement it appears he was correct in not pursuing the case.

Prosecutors also use grand juries as a way of testing jury response. If this jury could do no better than to say they thought the Ramseys were involved some way but could not point to why, that would indicate to the prosecutor that a trial jury would not be able to reach a guilty verdict.

Accidental strangulation?

Tampa, I think Casey did it, but the prosecutor could not prove that she did it because there was no evidence that she did it and he also overcharged her. He tried to use emotion to get the jurors to convict her. I agree with their verdict whether you like it or not. I would hate to be convicted when there is no physical evidence. How do you know they all think that? You have to prove that in this country or do you want folks thrown in jail on heresay?

Tampa -

A "not guilty" verdict does not mean the jury thought the defendant was innocent. It means they jury did not believe the state met the burden of proof. I was on a jury recently where we all thought the defendant was guilty. But the prosecutor did not provide evidence or testimony that met the burden of proof (i.e. beyond a reasonable doubt) and we were therefore required to return a verdict of not guilty. Thinking or feeling a defendant is guilty is not sufficient to return a verdict of guilty; the state has to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. If this were not the case, we would be a society that pretty much sends people to prison based on public opinion or even our own feelings. While our justice system is not perfect, I take some comfort in the fact that the state is obligated to prove my guilt with actual evidence rather than just get the jury to believe I probably did it using rhetoric.

This old chestnut again- Casey Anthony. Why didn't you bring up O.J. Fact is both of these juries got it right based on the evidence presented. The prosecutors did not do their job and that is why these individuals got off. The jury's duty is to make their decision on the facts presented by both sides and decide on that not what they think happened.

People keep bringing up O.J. and Casey Anthony... and don't realize those 2 people were convicted in the press - not in the court room. The juries in those cases sat listening to the case in the court, as presented by the prosecution. The people on these web pages read the "press" accounts of those cases or in the case of O.J. watched the proceedings and then they proceeded to listed ad nausem to the talking heads tell them what the saw. The juries on the other hand returned back to hotel rooms, and then back to court to hear the case the next day... the prosecution did not convince those people, the press convinced a bunch of you - but the juries sat and listened to the cases and did not convict - get over it and move on.

That is the most stupid thing anyone could think let alone write about.

yeah that letter was just too weird...

Your ex definitely hit you , one too many times apparently .

Frances you are totally entitled to have that view of how this unfortunate tragedy occurred, and nobody can say you are definitely wrong. And what you say about how some people can convince themselves they have not done something wrong that they have is totally true. It is not common but it takes place. Not much wrong with what you said at all. Good for you. Maybe it will encourage those that lie not to and in the first place don't do bad things against others.

frances...Only women know and understand this. Notice how some of the men on this thread don't? Women know their own gender better than any man ever will. One reason these men don't admit that there are actually women jealous of their own daughters is because those daughters are usually "Daddy's Little Girls" and Mommy has been replaced by a smaller version of herself. Women know this ...men never seem to.

Funny how we can have such conviction when we make statements about people that we have never met.

It is not common that people try to convince themselves that they can do no wrong?

The son was only about 8 years old when this happened. There was another older son from the dad's first marriage, but he wasn't in the house or in the area.

Would that 'little doubt' have any facts to go along with your assumption.

I hope one day a jury finds you guilty of a serious crime based on silly suggestions of evidence like you offered. Personally, I find you guilty of stupidity.

Because they can.

You've got that right. So don't get caught up in their mess or you'll really understand their justice.

ohh not screwed up.....

No no no the whole thing was set up to FAIL....it was planned that way from the get go...

The Rampseys have importants friends in the top

I was there at the time, too. No...the police were never given access to JonBenet's older brother... and the ransom note was written by Patsy... handwriting analysis proved that. If nothing else, it was too convenient that the amount of the ransom was exactly the amount that John Ramsey had just received as a Christmas bonus... $118,000. There were no footprints in the snow near the broken basement window and all the snow had been cleared away from the doors. There were no signs of forced entry. There was nothing disturbed in the home. Her body was discovered 8 hours after they reported her missing... Come on...8 hours before someone decided to check the basement?

I really believe that her brother did it and John and Patsy were jumping thru hoops to make sure they didn't lose both of their children.

I really hate to agree with you, but agree I do. I still live in Colorado and remember this case very vividly. There was more evidence of a coverup than there was evidence of the crime. It's a done deal now and will never be solved because no one wants it solved.

sorry they just looked guilty....

Your name sounds guilty.

Regardless of what really happened this was a botched crime scene investigation from the outset. Once the crime scene has been compromised the defense attornies can create reasonable doubt in the jury's mind.

That house should have been shut down and sealed off immediately.

The police were still treating it like a kidnapping based on Patsy's statements and the fake ransom note. But some of the detectives were suspcious right from the start because when Patsy answered the door that morning she was wearing the same clothes she had on the night before. That was a red flag for them. Not that this alone proves she did it but it was suspicious.

This case should stand for all time as the textbook example of how to screw up a murder investigation.

I don't think the law enforcement agencies in Colorado are exactly known for excellence. They let Ted Bundy escape from jail. Twice. After the second escape Bundy went on one of the most vicious murder rampages in history.

Ironically Patsy wasn't able to escape the hand of fate however.

Death. The great equalizer.

Yep....George W. Bush murdered 10,000 US Soldiers and a 200,000 innocent Iraqi men, women, and children and got away with it.

and casey anthony.

Gbrown....you are an idiot.

How do you know what happened to the grand jury...were you there? There were enough facts to indict. There was no one in the house until Patsy had everyone on the phone tree come over. Linda Arndt, the first cop on the scene, did not secure the crime scene of do anything correctly, thinking it was a kidnapping at that point, then letting John go look in the basement where he found her body, thus spoiling DNA. From there it all went downhill. John and Patsy lawyered up immediately and wanted to leave the state that night.

Why would anyone write a practice ransom note? Why would a stranger go into Patsy's art supply box to get a paint brush to fashion a garrote, when she had been bashed in the head by a heavy flashlight? No one came into the house through the basement window, there was no "small foreign faction" that wanted a specific amount of money, $118,000 which just happened to be John's bonus.

Nothing logical adds up in this case. Patsy was a borderline psychopath who lived vicariously through her daughter and subjected her to all kinds of emotional abuse and probably physical abuse. JonBenet was wetting her bed or worse, and Patsy most likely lost her cool and started to punish her...which then got out of hand. Stop thinking of this wretche evil woman as an innocent parent.

Good points! Given some of the comments here, I scratch my head and ask, "Why have a grand jury at all if the only thing you can do is to discredit it?" None of this ever really made any sense to me, unless I was just trying to be too logical. I am reminded of Betty Davis and the sheer terror and horror she put her daughter through for using metal hangers. If Davis didn't want her daughter to use metal hangers, why on earth did she have them around the house? Probably some sordid form of intended torture. Patsy Ramsey likely was so jealos of Jonbenee that Patsy killed her in a fit of rage and anger. The Ramseys were likely protected because they were celebrated socialites.

It wasn't Betty Davis, it was Joan Crawford. They even did a movie about it.

It was Joan Crawford not Bette Davis with the metal coat hangers. Though apparently Bette Davis's daughter said some stuff about Bette as well.

For my two cents I always thought it was the parents or a family member but we will never know for sure.

WOW! Now I am really embarrassed. For some reason I always confuse the two.

Rex, You speculate very well.. and that's all it is.. SPECULATION ! Were you there? Grand Juries can and do indict because the sky is blue.

If there was some real meat on the bone I'm sure the prosecutor would have moved forward.

I think what happened is pretty disgusting, all the way from the beauty pageants to the brutal murder.

We will never know all the facts and you can thank the blubbering media for that.

Again, What happened to Innocent until proven Guilty? You side stepped that, one of the very basic premises of British Common Law.

Really. I guess it's a history lesson more than news.