Unusual warm weather in Southeast paves path for tornadoes

So far there have been reported twisters and some damage as temperatures soar to springtime levels. But behind that front is another shot of frigid cold, and the threat of tornadoes. Weather Channel Meteorologist Mike Seidel reports.

It's an unusual time of year for tornado warnings, but given the warm temperatures in the southeastern U.S., forecasters are warning residents to beware of strong wind gusts overnight and into Wednesday. 

The National Weather Service says the following areas are most at risk: Much of Arkansas, southern Illinois, extreme southwestern Indiana, western Kentucky, northern Louisiana, parts of southern Missouri, parts of northern Mississippi, extreme southeastern Oklahoma, western Tennessee, extreme northeastern Texas. 

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Additionally, The Weather Channel gave a 50 percent chance of seeing a tornado in Alabama.


Temperatures are about 22 to 26 degrees above average, according to weather.com, and damaging wind gusts of 70 to 80 mph are predicted south from Biloxi, Miss. east to the Virginia. On the periphery of those wind gusts, isolated, spin-up tornadoes may form.  

The Weather Channel warns that the combination of strong winds -- in some areas up to 150 mph -- could result in straight-line wind damage and prime conditions for tornadoes to form. 

The weather service said the threat for severe thunderstorms will increase through Tuesday night in advance of a strong cold front moving across the central U.S. 

State and local emergency managers are on watch, the weather service said.

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No FEMA $$$$$ for these victims until Congress okays the proper amount for the victims of Sandy!

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#1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:05 AM EST

Gee William, Nothing even happened yet. Slow down.

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#1.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:36 AM EST

Well yes, that sounds well and good on the surface. But congress did just pass a bill giving money to Sandy victims. Finally. Is it too little, too late? Absolutely. But now they'll be able to say they just passed a bill for that. And as far as denying the victims of any disaster, especially in our own country, the aid they need to get by:

There is no excuse for that.

Nor would there be an excuse for denying any victims from these storms the aid they need in order to get by, let alone doing so for poor excuses like payback for the awful treatment of Sandy victims. The truth is that we need to respond swiftly and fairly to all disaster victims in our nation.

However, it appears like our congress can't do more than one thing at a time. And if that continues to be the case with disaster aid, then I agree that the Sandy victims should finish getting what they need before we start addressing the rest because they have been waiting in line for far too long.

  • 8 votes
#1.2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:39 AM EST

Too late William....

The Senate Monday night passed a $50.5 billion emergency spending bill to aid people in New York and New Jersey who are trying to rebuild their homes and businesses after last October’s devastation from super-storm Sandy.

This Storm news was posted about an hour ago and the Sandy aid story was posted about 13 hours ago...

  • 6 votes
#1.3 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:02 AM EST

GodOfFate, what a handle.

Congress does not have booths at disaster areas, handing out money. I wasn't the lack of funds that left the storm victims out in the cold, it was, and is every time, government red tape that keeps aid from getting to the people affected. When the president stood there and said he would cut through the red tape, he knew damn well that wasn't going to happen, but he made himself look good. If you can figure out how to get the money to the victims faster, you would have a job for life.

  • 5 votes
#1.4 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:16 AM EST

What a jerk you know full well that the reason that the sandy aid got tied up in congress is they put in all the pork for things like fisheries in alaska. If our congress would just do their job and pass things everyone agrees with instead of trying to hide things in every bill hoping nobody reads them we would be much better off.

  • 7 votes
#1.5 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:20 AM EST

And here I sit at work just waiting for the storms to come through. Metal building in the middle of nowhere Oklahoma. Nowhere to go if a tornado comes through.....Bout 20 miles from where the Joplin, MO tornado hit....So I'm not worried right now bout red tape, congress or monies tied up from other stuff...

  • 5 votes
#1.6 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:39 AM EST

Dude, compared to how FEMA responded to Ike, Rita and Allison in Texas, the Sandy victims were spoon fed caviar with silver spoons, and the media had an orgy of the storm and damage coverage while hardly mentioning Ike, Rita and Allison.

And terrible tornadoes in Oklahoma in 2010 were hardly mentioned.

And then there were the wildfires across the plains in 2011.

Get a better perspective.

  • 8 votes
#1.7 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:52 AM EST

@ h engbers,

Of course it was never about the money. It was about the politics in Washington, and in particular Congress, which prevented the much needed swift and fair response the Sandy victims were denied in the first place. And this bill they just passed is not only late, but probably still is not enough.

That's what my entire post was about.

And since we have trouble getting through (as you put eloquently put it) "government red tape," then it seems unlikely Congress will be able to actually pass bills everyone agrees on without any drama or delay, let alone multiple ones. And my point at the end was that if congress can't do it's job (like it has NOT been doing all along) and pass aid to everyone in a swift and fair manner, then the Sandy victims should at least be the priority until they finish receiving all the aid they need before we move on to anyone else. You know, because they have been waiting so long and now it's January with snow, cold, and winter. That's all.

Now I have no idea what we can do to get Congress to do it's job short of voting them out of their cozy jobs as disruptors of functionality. But if we replace them with just any whack it won't solve anything, either. After Bush the country was angry. So as a result, we voted out much of the old corrupt but let in new radicals. We actually made a bad situation worse by blindly cleaning house. We should clean house again, but not blindly this time.

I guess the only thing we could do as a public in between voting periods is mobilize with a mob of angry but peaceful protesters outside of their houses and put the pressure on that way. I don't know about you, but I'm too busy with work. So that would make me a hypocrite for saying you go and not doing anything myself. I tried sending them angry letters and stuff, but I think you know how well that worked. Maybe if we had more numbers of people sending angry letters/e-mails/petitions? I don't know.

  • 3 votes
#1.8 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:13 AM EST

@ inMYday,

It doesn't matter if the media covers it or not. It matters if the victims get aid they need. Just because they don't cover it doesn't mean they didn't receive help or aid. That's why we have FEMA and disaster aid in the first place.

  • 5 votes
#1.9 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:17 AM EST

Billy J Brock - We won't need 50 billion worth of FEMA because people in the Midwest are smart and carry their own insurance. You see, even though the odds of a tornado hitting my house are slim, there's still a chance, so I cover myself....unlike people living along the water who don't carry insurance for hurricanes....

  • 7 votes
#1.10 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:57 AM EST

Good, then don't bother asking for the money. Most if not all of the no votes for Sandy relief were republicans that live in those areas.

  • 4 votes
#1.11 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:09 AM EST

money will be approved much faster - we don't build homes in flood zones next to the ocean.

  • 2 votes
#1.12 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:34 AM EST

Geez, Native2034, I wouldn't want to be in your shoes. I hope you get through this okay. I live in central NC and have a storm shelter in my garage; I can't even imagine being so vulnerable in such an area. Best of luck to you.

  • 4 votes
#1.13 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:28 PM EST

Well, the front came through. The clouds looked like they were 50 feet off the ground. Wind blew very hard. Thought the rain was going to come through the windows....Now it is just sprinkling.....Whew! Thank you rkaralius....

  • 2 votes
#1.14 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:14 PM EST

lib 50, if that is true then it's not surprising.

Where was Obama during the huge wildfires of 2011 that ruined so many homes and killed people? Your president dragged his feet in declaring it a disaster zone, and did so FINALLY months after the fact.

Obama dislikes Texas. There is no question about that.

  • 3 votes
#1.15 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:46 PM EST

No $$$$ for the bible belt or any state that voted red in 2012.

  • 2 votes
#1.16 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:30 PM EST

Vincent, then why have an election?

  • 1 vote
#1.17 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:58 PM EST

Timmy: People in the midwest don't carry hurricane insurance. They may carry insurance for wind damage, which if you knew anything about the insurance biz, is entirely different. As far as smart? I've been in the midwest. It is barren of wits and smarts as far as I could see. It is also barren of culture and class. I am guessing you are in the heart of it, based upon your errantly condescending assessment.

  • 3 votes
#1.18 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:55 PM EST

They talk about p[eople buying and living in homes near the water,yet these same people keep living in tornado alley. Year after year tornadoes hit the same areas of the south and midwest. On few occasions do storms the magnitude of Sandy hit the Northeast. Even with all the so-called pork written out of the new bill, 36 repub senators from still voted against the bill because they wanted spending offsets/ So, when this year's crop of tornados hit their states, spending offsets should be demanded before any aid is voted on for their people. Fair is fair, right? I mean why help Americans in need when we can waste time bickering over who gets how much help. Considering that most of the states that those senators are from get more money back from the feds than they give, then let them exist on that when disaster strikes.

  • 3 votes
#1.19 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:02 PM EST

Sandy has my back..

    #1.20 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:08 PM EST

    What a bunch of spoiled greedy brats!

    I didn't get my lollipop so you don't get yours. Your cookie is BIGGER than MY cookie. Wah, wah, wah, wah wah.

    And this is what you get when you pamper your little devil spawned diamonds in the rough, instead of teaching them that EVERYBODY is important, not just themselves.

    • 1 vote
    #1.21 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:09 PM EST

    The climate is changing, the climate is changing! eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkk!

      #1.22 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:08 AM EST

      And Kornfed, it's all your fault...

      • 1 vote
      #1.23 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:14 AM EST
      Reply

      Instant Karma gonna get you

      • 4 votes
      Reply#2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:20 AM EST

      Instant Global Climate Change gonna get you.

      • 5 votes
      #2.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:24 AM EST

      Climate change has nothing to do with this. At the end of every single January since I've live here for the last few decades we've had either A) storms with at least one tornado or B) storms of snow and ice. This is nothing new.

      • 1 vote
      #2.2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:15 AM EST

      excuse me - but the last few decades is exactly when we have been feeling the effects of climate change - and tornadoes this time of year are not common - until now -

      • 2 votes
      #2.3 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:43 PM EST

      Liberalism is closest to cannibalism..

        #2.4 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:16 PM EST
        Reply

        This violent weather is happening more and more often. This is what we have been warned about. Wake up, people!

        • 14 votes
        #3 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:42 AM EST

        mother nature is pissed; I guess the old saying; if momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy, is true.

        • 7 votes
        #3.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:06 AM EST

        GodOfFate

        This is what we have been warned about. Wake up, people!

        Yep. Since the time of Chicken Little.

        • 3 votes
        #3.2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:27 AM EST

        Chicken Little clucking.

        I am more concerned about being obliterated by a rogue asteroid than I am drowning in sea water.

        • 1 vote
        #3.3 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:31 AM EST

        If you want to know how the liberal mind works, watch "the day after tomorrow" hahaha

        • 4 votes
        #3.4 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:37 AM EST

        "The saddest aspect of life right now, is that science gathers knowledge faster then society gathers wisdom".

        Isaac Asimov

        • 10 votes
        #3.5 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:53 AM EST

        @ denver bill 2,

        What exactly makes you qualified to discredit globally accepted modern science?

        Just for the record, party bias doesn't count as a qualification. You know, so there is no confusion when and if you answer that.

        @ Kornfed,

        "The Day After Tomorrow" was a really stupid movie. Btw, I'm an Independent and NOT a Liberal. I believe blind party bias is tearing the country apart. Unlike you, I don't blindly assume anyone who disagrees with me is a Liberal. Nor do I discredit globally accepted modern science for party ideals.

        Apparently, some people don't understand anything they don't already agree with in their minds. I'm not saying you have to join Green Peace. But you could at least acknowledge the problem exists. The rest of the world has.

        @ tweet-2832581,

        So true.

        • 8 votes
        #3.6 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:28 AM EST

        GodOfFate

        @ denver bill 2, What exactly makes you qualified to discredit globally accepted modern science?

        I have exactly the same rights as you when it comes to having and expressing an opinion. And I'm flattered that you apparently believe that my little post discredits globally accepted modern science. As though you have any idea at all what "globally accepted modern science" thinks (or agrees) about what causes tornadoes in the Mississippi River valley in January.

        • 1 vote
        #3.7 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:41 AM EST

        @ Denver Bill,

        Globally accepted modern science believes the climate of our planet is changing because of us. Of course I know it. It isn't a secret. I figured even you would know that, because it is extremely well known that is the stance modern science has taken and tested many times over to prove. Whether or not you agree with that stance is irrelevant. It is well known that this is the stance of modern scientists. But if you don't even know that much, then I guess you are more ignorant than I thought. I'm sorry I assumed you knew about what modern science has shown. I won't make that mistake with you again.

        It is true you are allowed to express an opinion no matter how ignorant it may or may not be. But that doesn't mean you won't have to answer for it. Some people want their freedoms, but don't want to take responsibility for this things they say. I would hope you aren't one of those people. You did just discredit modern science with your opinion, but I guess the only thing you have to back that up is invalid ignorance. Not gonna cut it.

        • 4 votes
        #3.8 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:55 AM EST

        Kornfed

        If you want to know how the liberal mind works, watch "the day after tomorrow" hahaha

        We certainly know we are not dealing with a rocket scientist (much less a climatologist) here. Liberals understand quite well that is nothing but an exagerrated fiction. But the reality is likely to suck for someone tomorrow.

        We probably still wouldn't understand the concept or value of fire if it had been discovered by a Far Right conservative. Only surprising you aren't throwing out HAARP conspiracies!

        Place your hands firmly against the ground and push. Did your head come out? It seems to be solidly stuck there in the sand.

        • 4 votes
        #3.9 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:02 AM EST

        You talk of science and what "modern science" says. And proclaim what "scientists say" without ever providing the data and the evidence behind your claims. You climate change believers never seem to be a bit skeptical of all this supposed science, accepting what a few people say without a bit of questioning as the gospel truth. You seem to be calling this normal weather event somehow extreme. But thunderstorms, severe weather, and tornadoes can occur in any month of the year depending on the contrast in the air masses.

        Where is it in the literature or the links or in the theory that climate change will somehow cause more "extreme" weather events. I don't believe it is there until I can see with my own eyes, being a scientist myself. And GoF, what are you credentials to criticize. You climate change liars are the ones who seem to be mired in invalid ignorance.

          #3.10 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:21 AM EST

          GodOfFate

          Globally accepted modern science believes the climate of our planet is changing because of us.

          You are correct when you say that global climate is changing. You are partially correct when you say it is "because of us." Humans do have an effect ..... the disagreement (even in the scientific community) is over how much of an effect.

          I guess you are more ignorant than I thought. I'm sorry I assumed you knew about what modern science has shown. I won't make that mistake with you again.

          I'd be hurt if I valued your opinion.

          It is true you are allowed to express an opinion no matter how ignorant it may or may not be. But that doesn't mean you won't have to answer for it.

          You may be right, but I certainly don't have to answer to you.

          • 1 vote
          #3.11 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:24 AM EST

          We just had thunderstorms here in northeastern Wisconsin - in January. I've never remembered that happening before.

          • 3 votes
          #3.12 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:28 PM EST

          we've also just had a thunderstorm in Michigan yesterday night, seen lighting at least once, and quite a lot of thunder, also rained hard and by Wednesday night or Thursday we are supposed to get an Arctic blast - so everything wet will become iced over...

          • 1 vote
          #3.13 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:04 PM EST

          @ denver bill 2,

          "You are correct when you say that global climate is changing. You are partially correct when you say it is "because of us." Humans do have an effect ..... the disagreement (even in the scientific community) is over how much of an effect."

          Ok. But you do acknowledge there is some level of noticeable effect going on there, at least some of which being caused by "us" in some way. Personally, I don't see how we (as a society) can put all the crap into to the air at the extreme levels we do, and have their be no effect. That is why I first climbed on board the camp of global warming/climate change in the first place. I left it to scientists to figure out what the effects were, and then once I saw enough I said, "Ok. I'll buy that." Since then, modern science has only found more and more to back it up.

          "I'd be hurt if I valued your opinion."

          Well that's real sweet and all, but there was a reason I said that you were ignorant. In the reply before that, I thought you didn't understand what the common knowledge about modern science was based on the sentence:

          As though you have any idea at all what "globally accepted modern science" thinks (or agrees) about what causes tornadoes in the Mississippi River valley in January.

          What "globally accepted modern science" thinks is that the climate is changing, we are impacting it to change it, and that one result will be more violent and extreme weather. So in that sentence, it seemed like you didn't know what anyone who doesn't live under a rock would know: The stance of modern science on global warming. The stance of modern science on this is common knowledge, whether or not you agree with it. However, based on your last post it appears you indeed do not live under a rock.

          So, sorry for the misunderstanding. It appears that instead of being ignorant, you were just being a "smart @ss" of sorts. You appear to have a habit of that, Mr. Chicken Little.

          "You may be right, but I certainly don't have to answer to you."

          I laughed at that one. The funny thing is you already answered to me 3 times and counting. I'm not sure if you realized that when you said this, but I do find irony amusing so it was worth a chuckle. I suggest that if you really don't want to answer to anyone, that you don't respond to them, particularly the original comment. And especially don't respond with a smart @ss comment where just anyone can see it and reply. You know, common sense.

          • 2 votes
          #3.14 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:09 PM EST

          rex - not true. this is work that geo-scientists spend their whole lives perfecting in books and articles. i'm not going to summarize all that I've read and studied in college for some troll on the internet who wants to refute what 99% of the smartest and most knowledgeable scientists in the world think. Look who is on the opposing end and still denying climate change. Evangelical Christians (who don't have a great track record of predicting catastrophes) and select Republicans (who don't want anyone abandoning their precious oil cash crop). That alone makes the argument for us. If you're open to actually laying some facts out I have a free afternoon I'd love to school ya but most people don't have the time to argue with people who are just stuck on believing the opposite of what academics think.

          • 2 votes
          #3.15 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:52 PM EST

          GodOfFate

          As though you have any idea at all what "globally accepted modern science" thinks (or agrees) about what causes tornadoes in the Mississippi River valley in January.

          What "globally accepted modern science" thinks is that the climate is changing,

          We can agree on that. And I think we can agree that you still have no idea what "globally accepted modern science" thinks about what causes tornadoes in the Mississippi valley in January.

          It appears that instead of being ignorant, you were just being a "smart @ss" of sorts. You appear to have a habit of that, Mr. Chicken Little.

          Agreed.

          "You may be right, but I certainly don't have to answer to you."

          I laughed at that one. The funny thing is you already answered to me 3 times and counting. I'm not sure if you realized that when you said this, but I do find irony amusing so it was worth a chuckle.

          I'm surprised that you understand the concept of irony, since you obviously don't understand some nuances of the English language. Surprisingly enough, in a well-constructed sentence no word is superfluous and every word has a meaning. That is why I may "answer you" because we are engaged in a dialogue, but I do not "answer to you" because you have no authority over me. Get the difference?

          • 1 vote
          #3.16 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:24 PM EST

          @ denver bill 2,

          "We can agree on that. And I think we can agree that you still have no idea what "globally accepted modern science" thinks about what causes tornadoes in the Mississippi valley in January."

          This again? More language nuances? Let me spell it out for you:

          Tornadoes need a few things to happen like instability in the atmosphere, a combination of hot and cold air, and generally enough humidity to trap the air so it can combine better. You see warmer air rises, and colder air falls. So when hot air is trapped under colder air, it can violently interact as the different levels of warmer and colder air tries to rise and fall respectively. There are obviously varying conditions and circumstances, and it isn't quite that simple, but that is the gist of it. I could try to go into further detail. But since I am not a meteorologist, I would probably dork up the explanation if I tried going into further detail and not be able to explain it right to someone who didn't know.

          But why would these conditions happen in January on even a semi-consistent basis in most of these states? In the middle of winter, it is supposed to be too cold and dry in most of the country. Even the majority of the southern states shouldn't be getting tornadoes in January. The cold tends to dry out the air. But even if there is enough humidity, there still shouldn't be enough warmer air to react with the cold air in this fashion.

          However, if the climate in January can become warmer than it should be that time of year, say because of global warming, then conditions for tornadoes become possible. Get the idea?

          So yes, I do know roughly why meteorologists believe this has to do with global warming/climate change.

          "I'm surprised that you understand the concept of irony, since you obviously don't understand some nuances of the English language. Surprisingly enough, in a well-constructed sentence no word is superfluous and every word has a meaning. That is why I may "answer you" because we are engaged in a dialogue, but I do not "answer to you" because you have no authority over me. Get the difference?"

          Exactly right, or at least mostly. Changing exactly to mostly is a language nuance. Man, that's convenient! Anyway, back to the point. You chose to answer me and then said you didn't have to answer me, which I found amusing because I find ironic statements amusing. In all fairness though, I did indeed know what you meant. But I must confess, the smart @ss gene is dominant in my family. I can't help it. That's just genetics.

          But you would understand about that, right?

          • 1 vote
          #3.17 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:56 PM EST

          @ Kornfed,

          "The Day After Tomorrow" was a really stupid movie. Btw, I'm an Independent and NOT a Liberal. I believe blind party bias is tearing the country apart. Unlike you, I don't blindly assume anyone who disagrees with me is a Liberal. Nor do I discredit globally accepted modern science for party ideals.

          Apparently, some people don't understand anything they don't already agree with in their minds. I'm not saying you have to join Green Peace. But you could at least acknowledge the problem exists. The rest of the world has.

          The rest of the world used to think the world was flat as well. There is no consensus in science. Science cannot be ruled by popular opinion.

            #3.18 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:12 AM EST

            Scientists clearly know way more than you. Actually it was a myth that Columbus discovered the world was round. They already new it wasn't flat because of the way boats came over the horizon. And even if that were true, and it isn't, then didn't have any way to test it. Today, many scientists all over the world have repeatedly done various tests and found this to be true. That's how global modern science came to accept this view. Even NASA agrees. They even have satellites in orbit that can measure temperature, rising sea levels, the make up of our atmosphere, etc. It's been proven so many times over that pretty much the entire world accepts it as fact.

            Again, you don't have to join green peace. But only someone who is either extremely ignorant or in denial could possibly not realize this problem exists. And based on your past posts, I'd guess that you probably are too busy being blinded by extreme party bias to actually understand science.

            • 1 vote
            #3.19 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:22 AM EST
            Reply

            I pray God will protect us all.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#4 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:47 AM EST

            I've never known Him to give blessings to those that willfully disobey Him.

            • 1 vote
            #4.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:53 AM EST

            your both cookoo - blessings what the hell are you talking about - there are no blessing or angels or miracles or divine intervention - we live in a natural world with natural events - all the other mumbo jumbo is in people 's minds -

            • 2 votes
            #4.2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:47 PM EST
            Reply

            im originally from greensburg kansas so even the thought of a tornado scares me to death. im just glad that they wont be coming to where i live but i will certainly be praying for all who are affected. it also kind of worries me that it is the last of january and the beginning of february and its kinda still winter and we are already having severe tornado weather.....

            • 7 votes
            Reply#5 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:55 AM EST

            ...and 75 degree temps..

            • 4 votes
            #5.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:08 AM EST

            exactly.....something is about to change and i dont think ANY of us are going to like it very well.

              #5.2 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:39 AM EST
              Reply

              Godoffate it's called weather, get a life!!!

              • 3 votes
              Reply#6 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:15 AM EST

              Another denier right scottyconner? I agree it is called weather. And if a person has been paying attention, the weather patterns are changing. I'm not saying global warming or global cooling. I just said the patterns are changing.

              I think it's because the magnetic N. and S. Poles are realigning themselves to be back to complete opposite of each other. That does happen every so often. But right now it's 40 degrees and showers again, such is winter in the PNW.

              • 3 votes
              #6.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:22 AM EST

              SallyAnn

              It's been happening in Arkansas my whole life. We get tornadoes in January and snow in April sometimes.

              • 4 votes
              #6.2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:29 AM EST

              SallyAnn-4595694

              I think it's because the magnetic N. and S. Poles are realigning themselves to be back to complete opposite of each other.

              It's about time. You do know the North Pole is in Antarctica, don't you?

                #6.3 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:30 AM EST

                @ Scottyconner,

                It's called EXTREME weather. And it's happening more and more often, and even in places and times it normally hasn't happened in before. So how do we react?

                1. We can either chalk up every increasingly common weather related disaster as a coincidence and ignore like an ignorant person might.

                2. We can take responsibility and do something about it like a responsible person might.

                3. Or at the very least, we can acknowledge the problem exists even if we choose not to do anything about it like a cynical or defeatist person might.

                So what's better?

                • 4 votes
                #6.4 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:36 AM EST

                Darn, SallyAnn didn't take the bait.

                  #6.5 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:25 AM EST

                  It's not extreme and you are not helping your cause by coming across as an ignorant scold.

                    #6.6 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:25 AM EST

                    Not extreme? In over 50 years of living in this area, this is the first time I've ever seen jonquils blooming in the middle of January. Earliest prior to this was late February, just in the past few years. Before that it was mid-March. Or have the flowers bought into the hoax too?

                    • 3 votes
                    #6.7 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:33 PM EST
                    Reply

                    Severe thunderstorms, hail, damaging winds in THE MIDDLE OF WINTER is not just weather !!! - it's completely abnormal. It was almost 80 degrees here yesterday and we expect the same today. When I hear people saying, "oh, it's so nice outside - I just love this weather," I'm thinking these people just don't get it. It's not supposed to be 80 freakin' degrees in January; not in the northern hemisphere. The planet's weather patterns are getting more jacked every year if you ask me and it concerns me a lot.

                    • 11 votes
                    Reply#7 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:32 AM EST

                    I live in Arkansas. It has been normal here for at least 58 years.

                    • 2 votes
                    #7.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:26 AM EST

                    Sorry, I've been to Arkansas and there is nothing normal in Arkansas..

                    • 8 votes
                    #7.2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:11 AM EST

                    It's not a bit abnormal...the events can happen during any month of the year, they are more prevalent in the warmer months of course. It's cold fronts coming into contact with warmer air. That is why they are called cold fronts. Get it? You really need to be able to prove your point rather than parrot climate change zealots bullet points.

                      #7.3 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:28 AM EST

                      so the amount of winter snow we normally get here isn't producing like it has been...so what you say, well, that effects the level of the water in the great lakes - it isn't as high as it used to be, also, we had drought like weather this past summer...when we don't have the snow or rain the effect is felt exponentially.

                      • 1 vote
                      #7.4 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:12 PM EST

                      2012 was only the hottest year on record. No worries.

                      • 1 vote
                      #7.5 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:47 PM EST

                      Globally or just in the USofA?

                      • 1 vote
                      #7.6 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:42 PM EST

                      Just USA. It was only 9th hottest world wide. Still top ten, and recent year have still been trending upward overall at a scary pace. 2013 already looks like it might be brutal.

                      • 1 vote
                      #7.7 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:08 PM EST

                      Rex, I've lived in Texas my entire life in the same region and in my 51 years I never remember thunderstorms and hail in January. I do remember enjoying four distinct seasons and now we have basically two seasons: hot and not as hot. I am basing all of my comments on my experiences and observations. I didn't say what was causing the differences in the weather, but anybody with any perception can quite plainly tell the weather is out of whack to what is normal.

                      • 1 vote
                      #7.8 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:28 PM EST
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                      well like I said up stairs,( previous post, for all the political correct folks) mother nature is pissed at us.

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#8 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:10 AM EST

                      ... if the occurrence ratio of dangerous weather to earthquakes appeals, there's always California, folks! Just sayin...

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#9 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:15 AM EST

                      I'll take the occasional jolt any day over - 100 degree temps for months on end, grass fires, tornadoes, hurricanes, no rain and stupid people...just saying..

                        #9.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:18 AM EST

                        .... chuckle... no... LOLOL! I've done "quakes" and I've done tornadoes... "the occasional jolt" My preference, any time, any day, any where, Coopster!

                          #9.2 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:56 PM EST
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                          I pray that God has mercy during these spate of storms and continuing recovery from Sandy.

                          As for these spate of storms, I've lived in "Tornado Ally" for around 20yrs now.. And I can attest... this is normal as normal can be. As you go north, the "coldest" month is later in the year. When I lived in Fl. January... as I moved up north Febuary... As I was stationed in FT. Drum Nov-Dec. Right before these coldest months, a warming trend happens and as the cooler temps progress... STORMS.. many time damaging and severe.

                          Those of you who live NE know of the "Indian Summers" ( http://www.farmersalmanac.com/weather/2008/10/06/what-is-indian-summer/ ) This "normal" brief warming trend often precedes foul weather...

                          Now I'm speaking from personal experience... Bad weather at this time of year is pretty standard.... Then my "Brrr" weather happens through Feb. and then... (Thank you Jesus) SPRING. I'm guessing that some of you HCGW advocates are probably 20 or in your early 30's... Stick around awhile... you haven't seen any thing yet.

                            Reply#10 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:19 AM EST

                            I'm still have debris on my property from our Christmas Day snowstorm. I see quite a few hanging limbs and leaning trees that will likely come down in this storm. I predict power outages and widespread damage.

                            Forget about the Congressional disaster funding holdup. IMO, the risk of fraud with the Sandy Hook incident demands a more guarded stewardship of the money. Or put another way, which organized crime family controls the construction industry in Sandy Hook?

                            I also think FEMA has confirmed with Sandy Hook that they have not improved their efficiency in delivering the proper aid when truly needed. Katrina was a disaster of an operation by FEMA. Sandy Hook is the same.

                            I think I am starting to see a pattern.

                              Reply#11 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:22 AM EST

                              not to be rude but Sandy Hook was the school shooting, Sandy was the storm. Have a good day stay safe!

                              • 1 vote
                              #11.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:08 AM EST

                              I'm telling you, nothing is normal in Arkansas...lol.....LMFAO.....ROTF..

                              • 3 votes
                              #11.2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:13 AM EST

                              I think I'm starting to see a pattern myself...your posts = crap.

                                #11.3 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:29 AM EST
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                                Sunday morning we had freezing rain. Yesterday it hit 70. Today will be in the 70s, with possible severe thunderstorms and tornadoes tonight. Possible snow tomorrow morning. WTF?

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                                Reply#12 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:28 AM EST

                                El Nino

                                  #12.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:33 AM EST

                                  Yes Daisy, the seasons are changing day to day and sometimes minute by minute.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #12.2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:24 AM EST
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                                    Reply#13 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:34 AM EST

                                    And no, January tornadoes are not uncommon or unusual. They are not proof of climate change. Remember that July 2012 set a new record for the FEWEST tornadoes for any July and that 2012 ended below average for number of tornadoes.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    Reply#15 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:45 AM EST

                                    But you're presenting real data and facts and climate change liars don't have any use for that.

                                      #15.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:33 AM EST

                                      where?

                                      sources?

                                        #15.2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:15 PM EST

                                        Trillian, I'm a good source. I've lived in GA most of my adult life and we always, always, somewhere in this state during every winter month, see tornadoes. They are the added gift from the cold fronts when they collide with the warmer air here. It's always been this way. There. Source and fact.

                                          #15.3 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:20 PM EST

                                          It's in the weather records Trillium, look for it and do your own research.

                                            #15.4 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:44 PM EST

                                            but you haven't listed your source, I'm just supposed to believe you?

                                            *wink**wink* take your word for it?

                                            NOT!

                                              #15.5 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:46 PM EST
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                                              hey agnes, what about the cities in the red states like mine that went for the democrats? can we get federal aid if we get hit by a tornado? should we break it down by how people voted?

                                              your name should read agnes moron, not agnes moorehead.

                                              • 4 votes
                                              Reply#16 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:50 AM EST

                                              It seems like "bitterness" has saturated our society. Our "? leader ?" has really UNITED the States, hasn't he?

                                              • 3 votes
                                              Reply#17 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:59 AM EST

                                              He tried, but Rush said no way. Get a clue!

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                                              #17.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:02 AM EST
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                                              NO aid for any in the south or on the plains. They deserve nothing!!!!!

                                                Reply#18 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:01 AM EST

                                                Why?

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                                                #18.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:47 AM EST
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                                                i think it is time for a parting of the ways. when my fellow americans wish ill on my state simply because of a politcal differences i no longer can view them as fellow americans. i'm not saying we should leave the union. i'm saying YOU should. to wish ill and misery on another state because you do not agree with the politcal leanings of that state is not american in way, shape or form.

                                                • 4 votes
                                                Reply#19 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:04 AM EST

                                                mr. bair, what if FL gets hit? they went blue this time around. can they get help if they need it? what about my city? we went blue. can we get help if we need it?

                                                • 2 votes
                                                Reply#20 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:09 AM EST

                                                What if Alabama gets hit? You don't give a damn because we're red?

                                                  #20.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:54 AM EST

                                                  Well, after reading your comments on other posts I get where you're going with this. My apologies.

                                                    #20.2 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:02 AM EST
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                                                    where did everyone go? can't post your hate unopposed today? 

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                                                    Reply#21 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:27 AM EST

                                                    I'm with you doug b. Seems there are a lot of inflamed hemorrhoids posting... Can't imagine wishing ill on people, much less my fellow citizens...

                                                      #21.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:56 PM EST
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                                                      Y'all are invited to come to Montana. At this very minute we are in the midst of a blizzard with temps in the single-digits and a wind chill of -25 F. Just another day.

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                                                      Reply#22 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:00 AM EST

                                                      Another news scoop by NBC...tornadoes possible in the Plains...who'd a thunk it...

                                                        Reply#23 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:35 AM EST

                                                        It's not global warming or global coolng. It's global climate change. In some parts of the world things are warming up but in others, they are cooling down

                                                          Reply#24 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:03 PM EST

                                                          The word tornado comes from a shortened version of torn attic. A torn attic is what happens when high winds tear off your roof. Hence, tornado. Or in Spanish, it is thunderstorm. AKA, for men, their wife when not pleased. Or it could be all the wind coming from Al Gore trying to explain global warming. It's the wind caused by all the money blowing into his account.

                                                            Reply#25 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:39 PM EST

                                                            You don't know very much, do you?

                                                              #25.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:49 PM EST
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                                                              its amazing how all these post denying any chance of climate change - all appear in the non stop constant stream of news stories ................ describing" weather events"- can someone explain to me the ignorance of denying climate change while they are actually reading about climate change - priceless

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                                                              Reply#26 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:55 PM EST

                                                              Acttually we're reading about weather events, which of course change day by day. Circular reasoning doesn't work in science fred. Nice try, but no cigar.

                                                                #26.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:47 PM EST
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