Cocaine, police dogs help 4th-grader win science fair

An ounce of cocaine doesn’t usually come with a blue ribbon, even in Miami.

That didn't stop Emma Bartelt, 10, from winning first prize in the science competition at Coral Gables Preparatory Academy with the help of three drug-sniffing hounds and 28 grams of the illicit white powder, all provided by the Miami-Dade Police Narcotics Bureau, according to the Miami Herald.

She also earned an honorable mention at the Miami-Dade County Public Schools Elementary Science Fair on Saturday, according to the paper.

The Herald reported that the scientific-minded fourth-grader received help on her “Drug Sniffing Dogs” project from her dad, Detective Douglas Bartelt. The three contraband-seeking chows included a springer spaniel named Roger; a chocolate lab, Franky; and a spaniel, Levi, according to the Herald.

A spokesman for the school district told the Herald that science fair rules do not explicitly prohibit use of cocaine in projects. Bartelt’s dad handled all the cocaine for the project, according to the Herald, which involved timing how long it took the dogs to find the cocaine in a room.

“It was kind of my idea, because I wanted to do my dad’s job,” Bartelt said of her award-winning experiment, which took place at police facilities.

In a statement, a school district spokesman told the Herald there was nothing wrong with Bartelt’s experiment – even if the only white powder at science fairs is usually baking soda for papier-mache volcanoes.

“The student's science project involved a very unusual set of circumstances, including having a parent who is a well-respected police detective with experience in training dogs that sniff for illegal substances,” the statement read, according to the Herald. “From our understanding, the parent was the only person involved in working directly with the dogs and the hidden substances, which took place at a police training facility.”

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I can't decide if this was cool or horrifying. And for a science fair project, isn't the idea to do the experiment yourself?

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#1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:56 AM EST

In a related story, the kids had a really great recess, and the dad returned 21 grams to the evidence locker.

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#1.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:02 AM EST

The Detective should be arrested for "Possession of the controlled substance" as it is suppose to be illegal. I feel that this is horrifying and allowing this will only open the door for future problems.

Now that one can use Illegal drugs, why not weapons?

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#1.2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:10 AM EST

I don't know; I guess the positive spin (narcotics officer, daughter wants to be like dad, etc...) is a positive message. But, if the kid's a manipulator it could be an easy out for a school task. She didn't train the dogs, didn't buy the cocaine (?????), didn't train her dad, don't believe the act was even on school grounds. Other contenders may take issue with this.

Beware, pups, of your line of work, especially in Miami... we all know what happened to Brian Griffin...

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#1.3 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:12 AM EST

@jake2247, no kidding about doing it themselves.

Last year, my first-grade daughter had to do a science-fair project. Yes, I picked the experiment since I had to find it on the Internet, make sure it was age-appropriate, and get the supplies, but I made sure that she did it all.

I had her hypothesize about what fruit or vegetable would produce the most current (with a galvanized nail and copper spike stuck in each), and why (an orange, lemon, tomato, or onion...the lemon won). She measured each voltage with a meter, and recored them. Then, she put several lemons in sequence, one at a time, to see how many it took to light a small led light.

She won, but to prove that she did it, and not me, I recorded the whole experiment, and put it on a laptop to play during the fair. She did a great job, but I didn't want anyone to think that she did not do the bulk of the work, even if she did need my help from time to time.

It sure sounds like the father in this story did all the work.

On another note, that does not seem like an appropriate experiment, nor would I think that it is appropriate to use police resources for it.

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#1.4 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:18 AM EST

Heck, it there's a bunch of people over outside, my one dog can sniff out whom has a bag/roach, which pocket it's in, within a minute.... maybe she's ready for a paycheck? Actually, I think she likes the munchies.....

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#1.5 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:20 AM EST

This is a terribly-written article. It doesn't explain in any detail exactly what the prize-winning experiment was! The reporter was so hung up on having cocaine int he same room as a child that s/he didn't describe the experiment, which was the whole point of the article!

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#1.6 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:48 AM EST

This is clearly a kid getting advantage in the science fair due to her parent's occupation. When my kid was in grade school (3rd grade) there was an inventor's fair, a kid from his scout pack had a project CLEARLY put together by his engineer dad. Complete with technical drawings.

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#1.7 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:02 PM EST

Why is this news????? What have we here, a reporter on crack?

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#1.8 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:21 PM EST

Dogs getting high. Real crackers So what were the results? How many lines could a dog do before blacking out?

I think the 9 year old kid could do more.

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#1.9 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:25 PM EST

I don't see a problem with this experiment. It was all conducted at the police academy, so there were no drugs on school property. The article states the girl thought out the experiment, as far as timing how long it takes the dogs to find the illicit substance. You can't expect the father to allow the child to handle the cocaine, or the dogs for that matter, but if it was truly her idea and she did the timing of the events, I don't see a problem with it. I wish the article went into a little more detail about the experiment itself, but it doesn't.

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#1.10 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:32 PM EST

What is horrifying is that they don't explain the details of the project. I don't see anything wrong with demonstrating how these dogs do their work or the fact that dad handled the evidence. The child obviously did the detailed work and want's to become a peace officer. What's wrong with that???

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#1.11 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:47 PM EST

So just what DID THE GIRL DO???? We know what the DAD did. I don't think this was fair to the other kids!

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#1.12 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:47 PM EST

And after the science fair was over, the police promptly arrested little Emma for possession of an illegal substance and then went home to snort the remainder of the cocaine. :)

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#1.13 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:11 PM EST

The article doesn't mention whether any "extra" cocaine was found on the police facility premises.

That would have made a better news story.

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#1.14 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:59 PM EST

father + badge+gun =winner

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#1.15 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:23 PM EST

The three contraband-seeking chows included a springer spaniel named Roger; a chocolate lab, Franky; and a spaniel, Levi,

So the three chows were 3 different breeds of dog, I wasn't aware a chow could be a different breed of dog. This has to be the worst written article of the year(were only in January), I could have written a better article in third grade. I had to read the Herald's article to fill in all the gaps. They should have just posted the Heralds article and given credit to the Herald.

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#1.16 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:56 PM EST

Do these "journalists" ever read what they write?

The three contraband-seeking chows included a springer spaniel named Roger; a chocolate lab, Franky; and a spaniel, Levi, according to the Herald.

WTH?

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#1.17 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:29 PM EST

From other sources, I don't think the three dogs were highly trained. The goal of the experiment was to discover which breed was the BETTER one for the type of job. The only thing the dad did was actually hide the drugs, so the girl didn't handle them.

I wish it had been better explained in the article.

It actually sounds like a pretty cool experiment. As to whether she had an "unfair" advantage because of her dad's job, I'd say not really. She KNEW about this type of work because of it, but lots of kids KNOW about science stuff from their parents. Kids of doctors, engineers, etc. If she developed the concept and the parameters of the experiment, did all the timing. It's her experiement.

I saw one poster who said he researched experiments on the internet and then got the supplies. That's JUST as much if not more interference than here. Let the kid research, then you can determine if it's "age appropriate".

    #1.18 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:40 PM EST

    Geeze, And all I got was third place for building a wind tunnel and testing airfoils.

      #1.19 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:04 AM EST
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      A rat in the maze does the experiment. Here, the dogs (with their handlers) did the experiment.

      The key here is that she planned the experiment, gathered, and analyzed the data.

      I see nothing horrifying. If her dad worked with the beagles at the airport, she would have been hiding contraband fruits and meats...

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      Reply#2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:02 AM EST

      ...and what did the data show????? The stupid article doesn't say!

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      #2.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:48 AM EST

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      #2.2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:09 PM EST

      @"Intelligent", it does say - she was timing the dogs to see how long it took each of them to find the substance.

        #2.3 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:44 PM EST
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        This was all the dad, not the 4th grader. Very unfair to the other kids.("it was kind of my idea")

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        Reply#3 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:03 AM EST

        Parents help their kids all the time with their science experiments. All the dad did was hide the drugs and hold the dog. Would ppl rather her handle the drugs?

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        #3.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:27 AM EST

        I'd say the resources are what's unfair, not the fact that her dad helped her. Like you said, (most) parents help their kids with their projects but not everyone has access to drug sniffing dogs AND coke :) And I doubt the MDPD would be willing to supply these resources to any other kid with a science fair project, just saying. It makes for a funny story but not much of an experiment, more like a time trial for the dogs.

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        #3.2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:50 AM EST

        "it was kind of my idea" was said be the 4th grader...

        “It was kind of my idea, because I wanted to do my dad’s job,” Bartelt said of her award-winning experiment, which took place at police facilities.

        However, it could be seen as a little unfair since she had the resources available to her. Not may have the same resources available. Although it is a good experiment.

          #3.3 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:51 AM EST

          He should be arrested for possession. If a parent wanted to use an illicit drug as an experience there would be an uproar but since he is an "authority" figure he can do such things. We wonder why this country is going to hell. It is a country of arbitrariness with a front of structure and order.

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          #3.4 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:10 PM EST

          Absolutely agree with Larlarpet. That is one of my pet peeves - - going to the elementary school Science Fair, and seeing how obvious it is that each project was done by the parent(s), not the child. How does the child learn anything when the parent does it all (except how nice it was to get out of doing the work themselves!)?When the child grows up, are the parents going to do their work projects for them, too? No wonder we lag behind most other countries in science test scores!

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          #3.5 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:31 PM EST

          @Posey the science fair winners aren't based on what resources they use . The point of a science fair is to get the kids thinking and to use the skills that they teach them in class ie. Ask a question, think up a way to answer the question, think of a hypothesis, conduct the experiment and report on the findings. All the dad did was provide a part of the experiment/demonstration. Its no different than a parent going out to buy baking soda and vinegar for a volcano demonstration or lighting stuff when fire is involved...except its coke and a drug sniffing dog lol.

          @gdp15 if you honestly think that the dad who is a detective should be arrested for drug possession because he handled drugs in the 'drug sniffng dog training facility' then I hope to the good Lord above that you are never picked for jury duty or given authority over anything more than a gerbil.

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          #3.6 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:23 PM EST

          As I see the problem, it's that the police officer used his position as LEO to provide circumstances that would be illegal for other contestants to have. How is that fair?

          It's no secret that law enforcement personnel are held to a more "flexible" standard than the rest of us are held--everything from traffic violations to, whatever they can get away with.

          Even gullible juries seem to assume that because it is a police officer giving the testimony that his/her statements are always honest and fair. Not so, in some cases.

          Sorry for digressing off topic, but I thought it is a point worth bringing up.

          In fairness, police officers have a thankless job that doesn't pay according to the risks they take. I'm confident that the majority of police officers are good for the community.

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          #3.7 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:08 PM EST
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          It's a cool experience for all the other student's at the school, but I agree this doesn't really seem like the child had to do much. However, I can't lie, when I was in 4th grade I had help from my parents on projects like this!

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          Reply#4 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:05 AM EST

          Good for her. She thought up the experiment, made all the directions, viewed the experiment as it was happening and drew the conclusions. Larlarpet? Why the jealously? I know I'm an office worker but my ex-husband is a fireman. He certainly has a more interesting job that me! lol

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          Reply#5 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:05 AM EST

          The aticle doesnt state she did anything you just said lol You made that all up

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          #5.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:17 PM EST
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          In a statement, a school district spokesman told the Herald there was nothing wrong with Bartelt’s experiment

          But I bet they rewrite the science fair rules anyway.

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          Reply#6 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:07 AM EST

          I agree. They probably will. Still...kudos to daughter and dad for doing a great job...and to the dogs that did the REAL work.

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          #6.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:09 AM EST

          Agreed. I can see this getting out of hand down the road, especially in Colorado and Oregon.

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          #6.2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:04 AM EST
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          There's absolutely nothing wrong with this at all but I can't wait for all the liberal nut's to start their nonsense.

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          Reply#7 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:10 AM EST

          What does being liberal have to do with having an opinion?

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          #7.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:23 AM EST

          Wouldnt a "liberal" be for the experiment seeing that its thinking outside the box? Why bring politics into everything?

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          #7.2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:29 AM EST

          I can't wait for all the conservatives to start with the hate comments.
          Oh wait.

          I agree with Rose Colored Glasses. What does this have to do with politics, or are you just looking for an excuse to flame?

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          #7.3 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:37 AM EST

          Obama did it... j/k

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          #7.4 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:05 AM EST

          It looks like you are the NUT to start nonsense. I am sick of people like you. I cant even read a sports article without some person like you trying to bring politics into it. I wish people like you would just GO AWAY!!!!!!

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          #7.5 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:20 PM EST

          I'm a moderate conservative with several "liberal" opinions.

          I can't wait for presumptive, uninformed puppets of various schools of thought (and schools without thought) to start with the hate comments.

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          #7.6 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:13 PM EST
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          Not jealously just fact

            Reply#8 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:11 AM EST

            Were the other kids and parents told in advance that their parents could help them too? I guess we're now at a point when people don't want to do things themselves. This seems close to helicopter parenting to me.

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            Reply#9 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:22 AM EST

            Every kid has help with their homework and projects. The ones that dont are the ones that have sucky projects.

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            #9.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:31 AM EST

            Rose, not true, I did a complete replica of a nuclear power plant in SC for a science project that included cutaways and explanation of the whole process of generating power from the plant. All by myself.

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            #9.2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:07 AM EST
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            I think it was an excellent idea & I am a liberal, thank you very much. Beyond, or because of such a scientific entry, these young children have learned that drugs are not such a "cool" thing after all.

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            Reply#10 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:29 AM EST

            Using Dogs by police is animal cruelty.

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            Reply#11 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:30 AM EST

            Yes, we should genetically modify humans to have an enhanced olfactory sense and use them instead.

            Police and military dogs are better cared and provided for than most personal pets. They actually get wages for their work, and a retirement pension, just like a human would.

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            #11.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:39 AM EST

            Using dogs by police is not animal cruelty. Dogs are trained for police work and military work, and are respected members of the forces. Dogs like to have a job rather than laying around on your couch getting stressed. I suppose it was animal cruelty when horses were used to pull logs out of the woods in early America, and when dogs are used to herd sheep. Animals prefer to work, and are not really made to be couch potatoes.

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            #11.2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:44 AM EST

            While it's true they are normally extremely well cared for, I'd like someone in the Secret Service to explain how the Secret Service dog was "accidentally" killed by "accidentally" falling off the roof in New Orleans this week while sniffing for bombs for Joe Biden.

            Usually, the only times those dogs make "mistakes" is when ordered to do so by humans.

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            #11.3 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:03 AM EST

            Are you saying dogs don't make mistakes? Like when my dad's dog tried to play with a porcupine?

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            #11.4 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:21 AM EST

            Just like the one that died last year in a police cruiser in Iowa when the officer left the dog to die on a day when it was around 100 degrees outside.... Did not hear what happened to the officer for that, must have only gotten a hand slap, anyone else would have gotten a life sentence for killing a police officer.

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            #11.5 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:22 AM EST

            Dogs better cared for ??

            Yes at Tax payer expense and a pension to boot. If a police dog gets the slightest injury while mauling you, you will be charged with assault on an officer and put in prison to be tortured by the guards. People mean nothing to these ATTACK dogs trained to go for your genitals. How many times have you seen a police dog handler allow the dog to maul someone on the ground just because he had the chance to exercise the dog? Still say Police Dogs that are trained to attack people are being abused not to mention the one they maul.

              #11.6 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:39 PM EST
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              So, what was the experiment??? Because I think we all already know that drug sniffing dogs can find drugs...did she explain how they can find them? How their sense of smell works, how they are trained to do this?? Come on, what kind of journalism IS this. Crappy story if you ask me.

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              Reply#12 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:20 AM EST

              Bridget, I think you and I are the only ones who recognize that the article doesn't explain what was so great about her experiment or how it worked!

              Look at all of the idiots commenting about everything under the sun except what was so great about her experiment! Unbelievable...they instantly moved into their partisan positions and began criticizing each other - even President Obama - ha!

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              #12.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:54 AM EST

              Yes, definitely missing from the story. The writer was just taken with the coke connection.

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              #12.2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:07 PM EST
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              Why is this a story? Jesus H. Christ...there's NO OTHER NEWS?

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              Reply#13 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:24 AM EST

              I think the writer of this article might have sniffed a bit.

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              Reply#14 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:44 AM EST

              I read this story (but did not follow link the the Miami Herald original content).

              I have no idea what the experiment actually was. Sloppy journalism by this author (is that the right word when it seems an automated computer put this "story" together).

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              Reply#15 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:58 AM EST

              

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              Reply#16 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:05 PM EST

              The story is that a 10 year old was enterprising enough to design and carry out an unusual but significant experiment. It doesn't matter that she didn't refine (or go to a street corner and buy) the cocaine, or raise and train the dogs. She formulated a hypothesis, and then set out to see where the parameters of her experiment took her.

              As for Dad's involvement, good God I certainly would hope so! And any other time, the same people who are howling about Dad helping would be criticizing parents for not being involved in their child's education!

                Reply#17 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:18 PM EST

                Where in the strory does it say she did any of that?????????? What story did you read?

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                #17.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:24 PM EST

                Why was the experiment unusual? Why was it significant? What was her hypothesis? Where did the parameters of her experiment take her?

                Oh, the article doesn't say!!!!

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                #17.2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:41 PM EST
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                This needs to be stopped immediately! Little girls doing science experiments? Using independent thought? Actice participation by a parent in their childs education? Anarchy! If this sort of thing isn't stopped immediately, who will make my sandwiches, wash the dishes, and clean the living room? Next she'll want to vote!

                  Reply#18 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:36 PM EST

                  I did a science fair project in 4th grade that involved astronomy and other facets of space exploration. It included scalings so people could wrap their minds around the kind of distances involved in the scale/timespan of the universe, nebular composition and planetary formation, stellar life cycle, red-shift/doppler and its use in determining distance/movement of objects as well as a summation as to why this information is both useful and important. I was able to make other 4th graders understand why a car's pitch increases as it approaches and suddenly drops when it passes. They learned fairly well how it is that scientists can say with fair certainty that a nebula a hundred million lightyears is made of what it is and why we never have to worry about the sun exploding or turning into a black hole. The only moving thing involved in the project was me. It apparently had an effect, because even the tough guys/bullies were asking me questions months later. This was pre-internet. There wasn't the sum total of the knowledge of humanity at my finger tips. I had no resources outside of what I could find in the local library (which I rode my bike to in order to do my research). I spent three weeks digging through books, looking up new info. The only help I had from my family was assembling the setup (they bought some glue and large posterboard for sticking bits of data to). The presentation went off well and everyone seemed impressed. I came in 4th place, behind a kid who had taped two 2 liter bottles together with some blue dyed water in one, allowing the creation of a whirlpool over and over. It demonstrated nothing. There was no explanation of why he made it, what he hoped to accomplish. He was one of those "dumb by choice" kinds, trying to look cool for others. I doubt very much that the idea was even his. He just swirled his bottles and that was it. 3rd place (over 2 identical setups that didn't use blue dye). 2nd and 1st were bizarre engineering gizmos that, if you knew the kids that presented them, were impossible entries. Said kids would never have even looked at any of the components. The kids didn't even know what the things did. They couldn't answer questions. They just flipped switches and lights went on and things moved. It was so blatantly obvious that their parents did the whole damn thing and that their only input was "Dad, build me some machine please." Yet they won. This seems like pretty much the same thing. Sure the girl is interested in Dad's career, but just having an idea is only part of it. Having it rely entirely on the parent's doing all the setup defeats the purpose of the fair, which is to challenge the creative and inquisitive nature of the children, to make them get out and work hard for their idea. Sure, she could have gathered the facts herself and drawn her conclusions and data from her research. Somehow I doubt she could have gotten 3 drug dogs and a sack of coke by herself...but then, it is Miami. I guess it's just more proof that hard work pays off, but getting somebody else to do all the work for you pays much better. At least whirlpool boy and company obviously didn't have any hands on help outside of getting the food dye off the shelf and perhaps an episode of Sesame Street in which such a display was demonstrated.

                    Reply#19 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:39 PM EST

                    Try breaking your LONG response into smaller paragraphs... more people might read your post.

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                    #19.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:42 PM EST
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                    Cops always have the best @!$%# but I agree with others that this story is horrible, it doesn't go into detail how the girl conducted the science experiment.

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                    Reply#20 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:46 PM EST

                    I would have liked to read what the experiment was.

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                    Reply#21 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:50 PM EST

                    All you snooty, judgey judgey people should do a minute of investigation before you assume facts NOT in evidence. Non-existent facts like this being a demonstration of how the dogs can find cocaine, or the dad having violated the law in some bizarre way, or that drugs were brought into the school, etc etc etc.

                    Here's a link to a description of what the SCIENCE project (not dog obedience training project) actually was, where it took place & how it was all very much above board, perfectly LEGAL, sanctioned by the authorities, scientific, the child's idea & NOT on school grounds:

                    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2270106/Miami-Dade-detective-provides-cocaine-daughters-fourth-grade-science-experiment.html

                    What a bunch of maroons.

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                    Reply#22 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:51 PM EST

                    Thanks for the link.

                      #22.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:54 PM EST
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                      Why don't cops just use Chain saws instead of attack dogs ?

                        Reply#23 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:56 PM EST

                        would have been funny if the dogs would have found more than 28ozs.....

                          Reply#24 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:59 PM EST

                          I didn't know that working a stop watch was science. I wonder if The Dog Whisperer kid were to time how long it took him to train three dog to roll over and the kid worked the stop watch would also make National News...

                            Reply#25 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:23 PM EST

                            I didn't know that working a stop watch was science.

                            Apparently you don't know much about scientific testing. A stop watch most certainly can be part of conducting a scientific test. And this was at the elementary school level, not professional level. Thinking up doing a scientific test to find out who or what is the best for or at something is pretty much par for that age group. There are procedures involved beyond just calling all dogs & using a stop watch. You have to use scientific methodology. That's the point, along with coming up with a project that would require the use of same. At least scientific methodology as it applies to the age group in question.

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                            #25.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:41 PM EST
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