Police officer, wife face charges after nursing injured deer back to health

Courtesy of WTHR

A police officer in Indiana and his wife face charges for possession of this injured deer they rescued.

An Indiana couple says they were just trying to nurse an injured deer back to health when they took the little animal in, but now they're facing criminal charges, according to local media reports.

Connersville, Ind., police officer Jeff Counceller rescued the little deer, which he said he found with wounds on it haunches on a porch during a police call two years ago, NBC affiliate WTHR in Indianapolis reported.

"I was gonna put her back in the woods, but I seen (sic) the injuries and I knew they were life threatening," Counceller told WTHR. So he and wife Jennifer nursed the deer -- which they named "Dani" -- back to health and built a pen for the animal in their backyard near the woods until the deer grew stronger, WTHR reported.

The couple told WTHR it wasn't a secret that they had the deer, and they had tried calling several deer habitats across the state but found they were too full at the time.

"She would run around. She would play. We would feed her crack corn and deer chow and other things," Jeff Counceller told WTHR. "Again, we knew someday that we needed to turn her loose."


Courtesy of WTHR

The deer, named "Dani," reportedly escaped the day state officials were scheduled to have her euthanized.

But last year, the Indiana Department of Natural Resources found that the couple should be prosecuted for the illegal possession of a white-tailed deer, according to The Indianapolis Star. State officials were going to have the deer euthanized because she had reportedly been around humans too long, but the deer escaped the day it was going to happen when a gate was left open, WTHR reported.

The Councellers could be punished with up to 60 days in jail and a $500 fine for the misdemeanor charge against them, the Star reported.

In the last few days, the couple's conundrum has garnered international attention. A Facebook page pushing for the charges to be dropped had more than 19,000 likes by Tuesday evening. A similar petition on Change.org had more than 16,000 supporters by Tuesday evening.

John Waudby, who created the Facebook page on Saturday, told WTHR he thinks "eventually public pressure will drop these charges."

Carmel, Ind., resident Suzanne Murray told the Star in an email that she finds "the actions of the DNR (Department of Natural Resources) in this case outrageous and nonsensical."

A jury trial is expected in March, and a special prosecutor and judge have been assigned to the case, WTHR reported.

Nicole Pence and Emily Longnecker, both of NBC affiliate WTHR, contributed to this story.

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another story that proves common sense is no longer common!

  • 71 votes
#1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:07 PM EST

There was a similar case in Oregon a few years ago. The state came down hard on a couple who had taken-in an abandoned fawn (as I recall it had some physical abnormality which would have made it unlikely to survive in the wild) and nursed it back to health. The little deer of course bonded with the family and that fact alone would have made it (the deer) vulnerable if returned to the wild ... no longer fearful of people.

It's pretty hard to understand a state or municipality getting aggressive with people (criminal charges) for doing what any compassionate person who cares about animals would feel responsible and compelled to do.

  • 50 votes
#1.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:57 PM EST

When growing up in the midwest my family would recue all types of injured or orphaned animals and raise them, then turn them loose. We lived out in the rural areas and we would teach them how to forage. We raised countless raccoons, squirrels, owls, ducks, hawks and once a fawn whose mother was hit by a car. I remember the day we found him as he was trying to nurse from his dead mother on the side of a country road. My mom was driving my brother and I to school and she stopped and put the little guy in the trunk of the car and continued on. He was only a couple of days old. He took right to a bottle with my mothers help and when he was old enough to go it alone we let him go with a herd of other deer we knew of in the area. They accepted him right away. To think that today we could have gone to jail for what we did is henious and just plain stupid.

  • 62 votes
#1.3 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:51 AM EST

My sense is that, even if the charges aren't dropped, no jury will convict them. I just hope their defense attorney can get the job done for them with a very small bill.

Unfortunately, we may never see a follow-up story on this.

  • 23 votes
#1.4 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:36 AM EST

So many dangerous criminals to worry about and, they waste their counties taxpayers money prosecuting someone helping a wounded animal? Oh yeah let's make an "example" out of those low life animal helpers. Ridiculous!

  • 54 votes
#1.5 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:36 PM EST

Same thing happened in Hastings, Neb. I think it was that city. A teacher had a tree removed from his yard and then found a nest of baby squirrels had been living inside the dying tree. He fostered the squirrels and being a teacher took this opportunity to teach his classes about the little animals. The fish and game dept got wind of it and confiscated the animals and fined him something like $275 because he had no license to keep nor to rehabilitate wildlife.

These rambos can ticket you for keeping bird nests, feathers, etc for lack of a permit also. Ridiculous state of our union when budget cuts etc cause these so called public servants to be so over worked that they have time to ticket people actually doing some good for wildlife.

Ironic thing is, had they killed it and eaten it, all would be fine. This world is growing more pathetic by the day lately . . .

  • 31 votes
#1.6 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:18 PM EST

The country has done a fantastic job of dumbing down it's people, this is why democracies fail because the populous is ignorant, emotional and easily played. Wake up people this is more corrupt incompetent laws made by corrupt incompetent leaders, when are we going to hold them responsible and stop letting them pass the hot potato of blame back and forth while they do nothing but screw us? If all you are willing to choose is corruption then all you will get is corruption and there will be no hope and no change. My hopes and dreams is that people of the US will wake up and fire all of our so called leaders that have been selling the country out. To develop a unity and a desire to work together to build our nation rather then let a select few make massive profits destroying it.To vote responsibly and put people in office that will serve the country over special interests and throw the ones serving special interests over the country out. My fear is that nothing will change and all the guns in the world will not protect us from ourselves. Sell your people, future and economy out on wars for the greed of a few, export jobs for slave labor and the freedom to pollute your heart out, import desperate people for slave labor, destroy your schools and teachers, dumb the people down, feed them violence and filth, create laws that make otherwise law abiding people criminals, fill your prisons with non violent criminals and send the violent criminals back out on the streets because of overcrowding. Don't forget to make guns a right and don't require any training, testing, licensing or registration then use it as an excuse to take them away from law abiding citizens. Also make it almost impossible for the mentally ill to receive treatment until they commit some horrific crime. Sooner or later you will have the public begging to take all of their rights away just to be safe, then bingo you have total control.

  • 13 votes
#1.7 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:43 PM EST

When a neighboring farmer brought an abandoned fawn to our place as we had goats, my mother simply drove to the nearest forest service office and filled out the paperwork to get certified to take care of wild animals. Problem solved before it took place. After that anyone in the area, farmers or forest service employees, would bring such foundlings to our place and we would just raise them with our goats, when they reached a certain age they would take off and join the local deer herd.

  • 11 votes
#1.8 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:45 AM EST

Children killed by gunman in Ct.

Robbers tie up and kill family in home ivasion.

Three young teens raped by their music teacher.

Adult men are seeking mental counseling from abuse by their Priest as children.

Husband and wife prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for nursing back to health a young fawn.

Sources say the electric chair for this criminal duo may be an option.

'Does anyone else see what's wrong with this picture???

  • 27 votes
#1.9 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:02 AM EST

Does anyone else see what's wrong with this picture???

Yes, I do. You stated violent crimes that are under the jurisdiction of police officers and compared them to environmental offenses under the jurisdiction of Dept. Natural Resources.

This guy is a COP. If the cops were the ones who had jurisdiction over this, do you even think we'd be talking about it? It would have been squashed the microsecond it hit the Sargent's desk.

People who are trained to enforce environmental regulations aren't trained to stop or arrest the Adam Lanza's of this world. And cops who are already stretched too thin protecting the citizenry don't have the time or manpower to enforce DNR regulations.

All of that said, DNR could have and should have handled this matter differently. They let their own anger over the deer being hidden (I mean "escaping") cloud their judgement. From that point onward, they had a score to settle.

  • 13 votes
#1.10 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:11 AM EST

The law was established so people would not try to make wild animals pets without the skills to do it right, Public health reasons and or to keep bubba from raisin 'em for food. Good ideas all. It was never intended for a one time only animal rescuer to end up in jail with heavy monetary fines. They tried to find a home in a bona fide deear shelter for crying out loud. Yestderday an article where a school principal had a 10 year old arrested for picking up a $5 bill off the floor. The cops cuffed the kid to a pipe for 3 hours. All these cases prove there are too many gubmint employees and their ranks need to be thinned a bit until some common sense starts getting displayed as they do their jobs.

  • 8 votes
#1.11 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:16 PM EST

Look into who the cop may have issued a tkt to or arrested. Probably a connection to the guy from wildlife officer who came over to arrest the officer and his wife for taking care of the deer. We are getting more third world like. Probability of this being retribution for something is high. The animal was not the real reason, only the vehicle for carrying out the vendetta.

  • 3 votes
#1.12 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:05 PM EST

First the charges are misdemeanors not felony. Yes it is only a deer, and deer while known to attack people dont usually. The law is clear unless licensed people should not have wild animals and deer do qualify. There are reasons for this - 1) animals raised around humans often dont survive if released into the wild; 2) wild animals in captivity have been known to turn on humans - examples are all to frerquent the woman who had her face ripped off by a chimp or how about the case in Ohio last year where all the guys wild animals got loose. There have also been cases where someone raised a deer and hunters knoew of it and came onto private property and killed it - thus endangering people who owned the private property.

The law needs to be enforced with the application of ggod sense and reason, slap these two on the wrist confiscate the deer and put it in an appropriate deer sanctuary. What I find fascinating about this story (and I have followed it locally because it is local news) is the cop claims he didn't know it was illegal to have the deer. WOnder if he stopped me for a misdemeanor and I pled ignorance of the law would he let me off?

  • 1 vote
#1.13 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:15 PM EST

Uhhh....right. Is empathy being bred out of the human race? Inherited or environmental? Does it matter?

  • 7 votes
#1.14 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:44 PM EST

Compassion for wild animals that need a helping hand should not be rewarded with a charge that reflects criminal action against the police officer and his wife. They did the right thing, and they should not be made to suffer for it. Let's go out and use the criminal justice system to catch the bad guys and quit wasting tax dollars on things like this.

  • 9 votes
#1.15 - Fri Feb 1, 2013 9:46 AM EST

Run Bambi run! This happenen in Minnesota just this last spring and the cops just came on the owners property and blasted the deer right in front of the family. Have a heart.

  • 3 votes
#1.16 - Fri Feb 1, 2013 7:09 PM EST

Does "jury nullification" mean anything any more? I know if I were somehow called to jury duty for such a case, I would lie, cheat, and steal (well, ok, not steal) to the best of my ability to get on that jury and then proceed to hang it up. Message for the cowardly idiot they have for a DA: "Better luck next time, Dick Tracy."

  • 4 votes
#1.17 - Sat Feb 2, 2013 9:28 AM EST

Go after the hard crimminals.....we lived in rural Colorado and many people helped animals get back to nature no problem then.......

  • 6 votes
#1.18 - Sat Feb 2, 2013 3:56 PM EST

This just goes to show that no good deed goes unpunished.

  • 7 votes
#1.19 - Sun Feb 3, 2013 9:48 AM EST

Bahahah, yep...lets fine and jail people trying to help animals. While we are at it lets provide a free attorney to an evil woman who imprisoned 11 people with mental handicaps to gain 250,000 dollars. I mean really...these deer people are EVIL. We must treat them like the criminals they are and give the not so evil lady three squares and a cot because she deserves it.

We are in BIG trouble people.

    #1.20 - Tue Feb 5, 2013 10:13 AM EST

    I have a friend who grew up in Indiana...I once asked him why he had moved out of Indiana...his answer "Obviously you have never been there...." said it all....I shrugged and mentioned Larry Bird, former Boston Celtics great, and a native of Indiana....and pointed out that Indiana produces some very good basketball players...he said "Basketball is about all there is for a kid to do there,in Indiana...did you notice that he did not return ?"

    Well, I suppose Larry Bird could go back and find some excitement by hiding injured deer on his property.

      #1.21 - Tue Feb 5, 2013 8:34 PM EST

      a good cop gets charged with crimes while bad cops get away with murder. this is whats wrong with this country, you cant be a poltican, cop, judge or any goverment postion unless your a bad person and the big bosses make sure of that. and if your a good person, then well your going to have a hard time. this is why goverment and corporations dominate much america. this is outrageous and whoever the low life that bringed charges on this cop and wife should never come out in public again. i bet they dont charge a cop when hes killing somone but charge a cop who helps others? this is crazy.

        #1.22 - Wed Feb 6, 2013 2:14 PM EST

        "Basketball is about all there is for a kid to do there,in Indiana...did you notice that he did not return ?"

        liam - Actually, Larry Bird returned to Indiana after his career as a Celtic, to coach the Pacers. He's been associated with that team, and presumably a resident in that state, until 2012, when health issues caused him to resign a Team President.

        This is a story about a stupid law being enforced in a idiotic manner, which does not indict the entire state as some horrible place to live.

        If you don't think stupid laws exist in other states, then you don't pay much attention to what goes on in the news.

          #1.23 - Sat Feb 9, 2013 7:20 AM EST

          This is a bunch of BS, so what they should have let it die?

            #1.24 - Sat Feb 9, 2013 9:01 AM EST

            While I believe that it should not be against the law to help injured wild animals, we must obey the law or suffer the consquences. These people broke the law and now should have to pay for the crime. Just because you or I believe something should be legal that is not does not give us the right to break that law and get away with it scott free. The fact that the Police Officer committed this crime - The punishment should be more severe than someone else.

            • 1 vote
            #1.25 - Sat Feb 9, 2013 6:12 PM EST

            So let me get this straight,....if you help wild life, IE: Deer in this perticular situation, you can go to jail for helping planet earth keep it's resources alive, but in the very same token our government's have no problem issuing hunting licenses to make a buck, (excuse to pun) while decreasing the population of animals. How the hell does this make any sense? O.k., i get over population kills off other animals, but humans are over populated now (at 7 billion currently) and we don't issue hunting license for that do we?......oh wait, we have wars for human population controll. Sorry, my bad.

            • 1 vote
            #1.26 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:29 PM EST

            @concererned999: remember those words you spoke at the next hearing on immigration reform.

            • 1 vote
            #1.27 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:31 PM EST
            Reply

            I totally agree that common sense has been disposed of in this country and replaced with utter stupidity. I started seeing this happen twenty years ago. America has slowly lost its mind.

            • 28 votes
            Reply#2 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:25 PM EST

            Well, it's a safe bet that SOMEONE at their DNR has lost their minds if they want to continue prosecution on this.

            If the police officer and his wife made NO attempts to get help for the deer, I could almost agree. But it has been documented that they tried hard. They then did the humane thing: they fixed the deer up rather than make a meal out of it. Now the DNR wants to prosecute? Wow...utterly amazing.

            • 27 votes
            Reply#3 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:29 PM EST

            not only that but they were going to kill that deer, complete morons

            • 16 votes
            #3.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:20 PM EST

            And people wonder why our country is going down the toilet.

            • 3 votes
            #3.2 - Fri Feb 1, 2013 11:13 AM EST
            Reply

            This is where I get to say " too bad but the LAW is the law "

            Book'em Danno

            • 5 votes
            #4 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:46 PM EST

            Ok, really? Prosecute kind people for doing a kind and selfless deed? To help a deer in need... Well I have to ask, what if they chose to eat it? Would they be prosecuted for that too? A young deer? This is outrageous!!! He is a police officer, a man trained to save lives... And he is in trouble for doing that very thing? We honor those that save the lives of every other animal, yet these idiots feel the need to waste the tax payers money and possibly tarnish this mans career for doing a good thing??? I object! This is stupidity!

            • 23 votes
            #4.1 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:05 PM EST

            Warren -

            I would have been disappointed if there hadn't been at least one cold-hearted, unthinking asshat. Might just as well be you.

            • 20 votes
            #4.2 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:00 AM EST

            Another conservative value I guess...

            • 5 votes
            #4.3 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:50 AM EST

            @ forkup - Can't Warren just be a complete ass-hat without being labeled conservative? Why does everybody's opinion have to be a political one? You should really get out more and quit watching so much tv!

            • 12 votes
            #4.4 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:49 AM EST

            My comment was only to illustrate how when the shoe is on the other foot the public gets a deaf ear from the law.

            • 7 votes
            #4.5 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:29 AM EST

            So, let me get this right, a nice family doing the right thing can get prosecuted for an act of kindness to a wild animal. One of the differences between man and beast is the ability to care for creatures of another species. It's no wonder the world keeps getting less civilized every day. If they are going to punish this couple, then they need to punish all of Rawlins, Wyoming since that place is full of tame deer.

            • 8 votes
            #4.6 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:09 AM EST

            Fork, I would think this is another example of the over reach of the liberal progressive socalist government. That excess regulation for the control of peoples lives. To attempt to censor the internet so we will only get to read and hear what the anti american anti freedom of choice progressivies deem " best for us" because the government is acting in our best interest!

            This is clearly a liberal control item!

            That being said to counter the hate of the fork liberal. I agree this should not be a political event but on of common sense and compassion.

            • 3 votes
            #4.7 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:20 AM EST

            What people commonly mistake is that the officers are responsible for sorting out who is guilty and who is innocent. All the officers do is enforce the law. the courts are meant for sorting it out. And that is exactly what they are doing. I did not see in the article how long the couple had the deer in their care. If the agency told the couple that the deer was better and they did it not release it then i can see why they are pressing charges. The unfortunate part is that once wild animals become friendly with humans they can become dangerous. How would you feel if you look out side and you see your children playing with a wild deer? That is why they wanted euthanized the animal. The officers just enforce the government's laws. let the courts sort it out. No harm no foul

              #4.8 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:52 AM EST

              This is Living proof that no good deed goes unpunished. Pathetic. Dont we have bigger problems to worry about and spend tax dolars on than a nice couple who nursed a sick animal. This is just stupid. seriously. WOW, just WOW! Remind me next time i see a sick uinjured animal to leave it there to suffer. :-/

              • 7 votes
              #4.9 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:59 PM EST

              What in the world is wrong with our government agencies? What kind of people are working at the DNR? Let people be compassionate. I hope the people pushing this get so much bad publicity they'll never pull a stunt like this again. To the nice couple that helped one of God's creatures, don't sweat the bureaucracy, you did nothing wrong. Those people are nuts! I hope it won't change the way you are not one little bit. If this does go to Court, I hope the judge throws it out and fines the DNR.

              • 6 votes
              #4.10 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:35 PM EST

              Yes the law is the law but who has space for the library required for those thousands of books, or the time to memorize the damn things? Ignorance of the law isn't a defense we are told. Yet who could possibly know every little thing they do which might be unlawful. Crazy times here America. And I think it might get worse before it gets better . . .

              Had we stuck with the ten commandments we'd be better off and there would be fewer attorneys.

              • 6 votes
              #4.11 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:41 PM EST

              warrren

              This is where I get to say " too bad but the LAW is the law "

              Book'em Danno

              What a moronic comment; At one time it was against the LAW to teach a black person to read and write. Never confuse the LAW with what's right.

              • 5 votes
              #4.12 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:37 AM EST

              warren was being sarcastic. Geeezz, he did not mean what he said to be taken literally, people.

              • 3 votes
              #4.13 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:56 AM EST

              shawn: "...the liberal progressive socialist government." Common sense and compassion?

              "Liberal" (Encarta)

              "tolerant of different views and standards of behavior in others."

              "Favoring gradual reform, especially political reforms that extend democracy, distribute wealth more evenly, and protect the personal freedom of the individual."

              "Somebody who favors tolerance or open-mindedness."

              Ya know, Shawn, I don't see anything there the least bit offensive - quite the contrary. You might have a look at 'progressive' and 'socialist' while you're at it.

              • 2 votes
              #4.14 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:53 PM EST

              Anyone can hijack a word and use it for their own purposes. Like "Honest Joe's Used Cars." Look up the word "honest." Going by the definition would you then believe everything Honest Joe" says? LOL!

              • 1 vote
              #4.15 - Mon Feb 4, 2013 3:34 PM EST

              Intelligent life on Mars? We should be searching for it in Indiana.

              When the judicial system in the state of Indiana cannot itself distinguish the difference between the intent of the law and the letter of the law, then it has no business being in the law business. The intent of the law: to prevent domestication of a native species which could, if repeated frequently enough, cause a complete disruption of the natural ecosystem, we get it. Good law. But don't confuse the intent by making it Biblical in its interpretation. These people were acting humanely. It's what humans are supposed to do. It's actually even based on the word 'human'. You just have to add an 'e' to see it.

                #4.16 - Sat Feb 9, 2013 1:55 PM EST

                Maybe in Indiana, the right thing to do is to make sure you've got a gun on you at all times: you never know when you're going to need to blow out Bambi's brains to end the suffering, seeing that saving him is a criminal act punishable by fines and prison time.

                Indiana might just have to consider changing the name of Fort Wayne to Fort Wayne LaPierre after this gaffe, in honor of another earthly entity without evidence of a soul.

                  #4.17 - Sat Feb 9, 2013 2:06 PM EST

                  Shawn3179

                  Fork, I would think this is another example of the over reach of the liberal progressive socalist government. That excess regulation for the control of peoples lives

                  Hey Shawn, you DO know that Indiana is a red state, right?

                    #4.18 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:07 PM EST
                    Reply

                    This is absolutely ridiculous. Wouldn't you think the Indiana Department of Natural Resources has better things to do with its time than persecuting a couple that did the right thing?

                    • 21 votes
                    Reply#5 - Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:48 PM EST

                    Nope. Money and power. How better for a governmental organization to spend their time?

                    • 5 votes
                    #5.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:02 AM EST

                    Corrupt governments always abuse their people.

                    • 5 votes
                    #5.2 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:51 AM EST

                    They have to justify their existence somehow.

                    • 7 votes
                    #5.3 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:36 AM EST

                    mpa - this is indeed all about the money. The state gets to press charges, impose a fine and then the couple get some jail time which the state/county gets more money for. Not one shred of common sense but lots of greed.

                    • 8 votes
                    #5.4 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:01 AM EST

                    This isn't about the money. This is about the fact that DNR made arrangements to kill that deer, and the Counceller's thwarted that effort by opening up the gate and letting the deer escape.

                    Once that happened, it was clear to DNR that a challenge was set before them by this couple and they were not about to back down. This became a battle of wills, not money.

                    No one is willing to say it, but DNR is correct in their position that wild animals can't be caged up in people's back yards. If my neighbor can keep a wild deer, why can't I keep a wild buffalo or wild mountain lion? The law itself isn't nuts, but the way DNR enforced it over a harmless fawn makes the law seem nuts.

                    Where DNR failed is that they should have realized they are working with a police officer here, and that's going to make this a public relations nightmare should the story get released nationally. The Councellers ain't dumb and they know that too. No doubt they (or their lawyer) worked the strings to make this story national. I agree that at this point, no jury will convict this couple. But it is going to cost them 10s of thousands of dollars in attorney's fees.

                    DNR should have worked harder with this couple. They should have given more credence to the emotional bond they formed with the animal and that euthanizing it was not an option for the Councellors. They also should have recognized how vulnerable their position would be... enforcing a very weak example of a valid law against a POLICE OFFICER (a well respected member of the community).

                    • 3 votes
                    #5.5 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:00 AM EST

                    Where did it say the Councellors were the ones who opened the gate? And just so you know the Indiana Governor is having the whole thing investigated.

                    And Harold you are right that it is not the law but rather how Ind, DNR is going after this.

                    • 1 vote
                    #5.6 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:18 PM EST
                    Reply

                    What a fu$$ed up country we live in, its okay for some hunter to go ahead and shoot the hell out of a deer and mount his head as a trophy, but let someone try and help the poor thing and lets fine them and throw them in jail. Anyone one else find anything wrong with this picture????

                    • 15 votes
                    Reply#6 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:31 AM EST

                    It's all about the state not getting the revenue from a license to have the deer. It's ALWAYS about the $$$

                    • 9 votes
                    #6.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:48 AM EST

                    I knew someone would make a crack about hunting. Hunting deer is not blowing Bambi away for a tropphy - most hunters hunt for sport and food - if hunters dont eat the meat themselves they distribute it to food banks. (in pointof fact there was a story just recently that venison donations are down to food banks because of the economy more hunters are actually keeping the meat.)

                    What is cruel is that we all want the predators eliminated - kill those bobcats, mtn lions, and wolves because they either threaten the cute little forrest creatures or threaten agribusiness - without a strong biodiverse ecosystem with top predators down to the smallest prey animals we have a bigger problem. The white tail deer population in this country has exploded, without the predators to cull the week, the heards are getting weaker, the food supplies are getting scarcer. What is more cruel hunting a deer or letting it starve? I know that 10 years ago Indiana as a state actually opened state parks up to hunting because the deer population was so out of control ad the deer were starving. ANd lets not talk about the deer carnage on the sides of the road.

                    • 1 vote
                    #6.2 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:25 PM EST

                    Killing for sport. Never did understand that at all. What do you tell St. Peter - "I enjoy killing"?

                    • 3 votes
                    #6.3 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:16 PM EST
                    Reply

                    Another reason to do away with all the IDIOTS that run this country. The IDNR needs to take a good hard look at how they run there department. Talk about a place with the insane ore in charge.....FIRE ALL THE A#$@&%*(.

                    • 4 votes
                    Reply#7 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:35 AM EST

                    Step up DNR and drop these charges ASAP .

                    You're looking like a real fool with this one .

                    • 13 votes
                    Reply#8 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:51 AM EST

                    This is a fine example of the idiocy to which our legal system has deteriorated into. There are 12 million illegal aliens they could be prosecuting. There are gang bangers on every corner in every city killing each other & selling dope. It is no longer safe to walk alone unarmed anywhere in the country. Murderers get let go because someone perceives that their rights may have been violated. But you will go to jail if you treat an innocent creature with compassion. It is no wonder we can see our country descending into chaos. We have lost our perspective of right & wrong. It is truly sad that the truth has become No good dead shall go unpunished. Thanks again lawyers of America for doing your best to destroy this once great country.

                    • 6 votes
                    Reply#9 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:43 AM EST

                    At least this police officer showed compassion not like many other police officers who seem to think their badge (and gun) givesthem the right to shoot dogs even when the animals are in their own yard and home. See the latest shooting of dogs outside a high school, five bullets from a hand gun then shot with a shotgun. Kay the dogs were fighting in the back of a pickup but that was overkill. They are lucky people on the street weren't hit by ricochets.

                    • 4 votes
                    #9.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:17 PM EST

                    Murderers get let go because someone perceives that their rights may have been violated.

                    Hyperbole just KILLS a valid argument. This may be a popular sentiment, but it's absolutely false to present it as a common occurrence. It is INCREDIBLY rare for anyone who commits a murder in the USA to be set free due to a "rights violation".

                    It has happened and it can happen again. But to present it as though it happens all the time is hyperbole.

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                    #9.2 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:04 AM EST

                    Thanks again lawyers of America for doing your best to destroy this once great country.

                    No, the problem's not with the lawyers but the average American citizen who does not understand laws and the legal system and how it works. So many people are crying that "their rights" are being violated, but in my observation about 90% of Americans cannot correctly recite the 10 Amendments found in the Bill of Rights and explain what they mean. On several occasions I've asked gun rights supporters to recite the 10 Amendments and most of them can only list three or four of the 10 Amendments. if anything, you should've said "Thanks again American citizens for falling asleep in your high school civics class." It's hard to argue that murderers are set free when their rights are being violated when you don't know which rights are being violated or even if there is a rights violation.

                      #9.3 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:13 PM EST

                      WallaceJ.

                      "Thanks again lawyers of America for doing your best to destroy this once great country."

                      It's not the lawyers that are the problem. It IS the lawmakers, Federal, State and local, who,in order to justify their jobs, as well as to control the masses, think up and pass laws, with the belief that people are incapable of protecting themselves, or, working things out among themselves. Eventually, if things continue on this path, will have laws which encompass every aspect of our life. Right now, lawyers are our only real protection from law enforcement abusing their power and interpreting laws to suit themselves.

                      Michael-412302

                      "No, the problem's not with the lawyers but the average American citizen who does not understand laws and the legal system and how it works."

                      The aveerage American citizen

                        #9.4 - Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:36 AM EST
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                        This county has LOST THEIR MINDS!! I hope they see these comments...a poor, little, defenseless animal, injured, & people were kind enough to help this poor little thing, & they deserve to go to jail!! AND they were going to put the little one DOWN because she was too used to people??? It's the most senseless act I've ever heard of!! God Bless these kind people, & don't let them get into trouble!

                        • 7 votes
                        Reply#10 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:38 AM EST

                        Our tax dollars at work...but as usual, in their backass typical ways

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                        Reply#11 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:47 AM EST

                        but the deer escaped the day it was going to happen when a gate was left open....

                        yeah, ok :)

                        • 8 votes
                        Reply#12 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:51 AM EST

                        And that's EXACTLY what this case is about.

                        By hiding that deer (or allowing it to escape for a few hours), they metaphorically "flipped the bird" to the DNR folks and started a war.

                        When DNR saw they had been played, they got mad and decided to play hardball. What they failed to realize is that they're playing hardball with a very respected member of the community (a cop).

                        Imagine if the person at the core of this dispute was a repeated felon instead of a cop. I believe most people would take DNR's side if that were the case.

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                        #12.1 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:20 AM EST

                        Harold, I think you're wrong. OK, maybe Michael Vick might have a tough time being taken seriously, but anyone of any means at all could have done just as well as the cop in rubbing the egg on the DNR's face.

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                        #12.2 - Sat Feb 2, 2013 9:50 AM EST
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                        Sounds like the wildlife department in Indiana needs to go back and think about their own STUPIDITY in charging these people to begin with. It's not like they lured the animal in then imprisoned it. They saved its life, and it ran away on its own. I certainly hope they drop the charges, and maybe the public and roll a few heads at the DNR and get some people working there who have some common sense!!!

                        • 5 votes
                        Reply#13 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:01 AM EST

                        Just when I thought the world can't get any nuttier I read this story. It's all about authority and money. Someone with a little authority wants this couple to know who's boss and they also want to collect five hundred bucks as a fine - that's all folks. I'm glad the little deer got away. Sometimes wild animals need human help. Oil spills come to mind with people cleaning birds, ducks, etc. with dish soap. Should we just let these little helpless creatures die? I think not.

                        • 6 votes
                        Reply#14 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:04 AM EST

                        yep, and the sad part is, they are going to spend thousands to get that 500

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                        #14.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:44 PM EST

                        Sort of begs the question "why aren't the bird washers arrested for (fill in the blank)"? Pissant people can find something negative in even the most generous and caring ocurrance. For some unknown reason, they believe it somehow elevates them (to what?).

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                        #14.2 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:24 PM EST
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                        What were they supposed to do.....just let the baby lay there and die? If the person that chose to prosecute these wonderful people is ever in a life/death situation, it's, probably, best to just let them die.

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                        Reply#15 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:28 AM EST

                        The trick is to avoid publicity. Avoid letting neighborhood kids get involved. Avoid media. There are a lot of rescues that go on every day. These good samaritans aren't prosecuted because our public servants are not aware of their actions toward wildlife.

                        We in America are being separated from the environment more almost daily. We must PAY for the right to visit our wilderness areas, pay for permits to hunt and fish, etc., etc. After our wilderness is confiscated by bureaucrats, it's sold back to us for recreation - camping, hiking, fishing, hunting, etc. There's something very wrong about this.

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                        #15.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:28 PM EST
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                        Has the United States gone totally insane...apparently..they re-elected Obama

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                        Reply#16 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:52 AM EST

                        Nice try, but this happened in Indiana. A state where Romney beat the President by 11 percentage points.

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                        #16.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:17 PM EST

                        @ET-2836701 -- apparently something is amiss -- you somehow learned to read (maybe not comprehend) and how to write (maybe nothing sensible) and now you have a little computer. The article wasn't about politics, but you dumb a**ed pee party republicans just can't get over the fact that their is a black man with more brains than all of you put together. Remember a**wipe you're a loser and typical to your party you and your people never learned anything about reading comprehension. As Gov. Bobby Jindall said you're with the "STUPID PARTY"

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                        #16.2 - Fri Feb 1, 2013 4:19 PM EST

                        Ah. Just when I thought reason might prevail. All of a sudden it goes from a DNR thing to a racist thing. Intoleranceof others (and money) is the reason this type of silly stuff happens.

                        Does your mommy know you talk like this?

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                        #16.3 - Sat Feb 2, 2013 10:50 AM EST
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                        The officer that charged them is no doubt...a stupid, inept dumbass trying to show his authority because he has a badge and a gun....Barney one bullet idiot.

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                        Reply#17 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:53 AM EST

                        This is also because the folks that live in the city are out numbering the country folks. City people have no idea about "wild animals" or livestock. They pass laws out of ignorance and without experience.

                        I had a "humane" officer stop at my farm and told me my horses should be out of the rain. She was new and full of power to enforce fines and criminal punishment and made sure i knew it. I ask her where she lived and it was downtown and told her to learn her own rules before making a fool of herself.

                        My horses have both a barn and a run in that they can go into anytime plus a pond and a creek plus a automatic water bowl. This city "humane" officer wanted to treat these horses like children and force them out of the rain.

                        As many have said common sense is all but gone!

                        • 10 votes
                        Reply#18 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:27 AM EST
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                        Reply#19 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:35 AM EST

                        Government for the people. They are public servants not our masters. We need to make sure they dont forget that.

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                        Reply#20 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:40 AM EST

                        Awe this is crazy. the people did the humane thing an helped the little deer. let them alone.. mercy we took in a baby squirrel that the neighbor's pit bull brought us an cared for Roxie. we let her back in the wild after 6 months. she still comes every day to get her Cashews, pecans, Brazil nuts an sun flower seeds. Roxie brings her Bo an her adopted baby Trixie with her. they have become the community family. Roxie will get on my shoulder an give me a kiss an sit eating her nuts.... This is GODS way of touching us... all these precious animals depend on human kindness.... some times the law is just wrong... where is the compassion here people... let the Police officer an wife be..... May GOD bless people that take the time to help these beautiful creatures out..... I swear animals have more love then people do these days....

                        • 7 votes
                        Reply#21 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:49 AM EST

                        Torchbearer, I sympathize and mostly agree with your post, but you have provided enough information that you could probably be prosecuted by some fish and game dept rambo, the squirrel trapped and killed. You might think it's god's way but our public servants see it otherwise. They like their offices and want to keep them. If you're going to rehabilitate wildlife, don't publicize it in any way. Or maybe better yet sign up as a volunteer at a rehab facility and then really do some good in a big way.

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                        #21.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:33 PM EST

                        It isn't really that difficult to get certified by the USDA to care for wildlife whether injured, or abandoned infants. When a farmer brought us a newborn fawn, my mother just told us to take care of it as if it were one of the baby goats, jumped in the car, drove to the nearest forest service office, filled out the paperwork and was home with her certification before the sun set.

                          #21.2 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:25 AM EST

                          to Den O'Synn -- Have you looked into wildlife rehabilitation. In most states you have to go through the game and fish commission (or equivalent) and instead of using common sense, jump through a bunch of bull$hlt hoops. I just checked for my state and it is not an easy or cheap process. Why on earth was something like this regulated in the first place? If people abuse and/or neglect animals there are already other laws against that.

                          I should say that I work for my state government, but even I can see that some of the regulations in place are stupid. I totally understand the need to keep industry from polluting and keep people from drinking and driving, etc. These are things interfer with the rights of others.

                          Why make it illegal to help wildlife. After all the animal would have died without help. If someone tries to help and the animal dies anyway, so what, at least it had a chance? Looking back, as a child my family broke this law by helping injured animals. I remember bottle feeding baby squirrels as a child.

                            #21.3 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:59 AM EST

                            I'm with you 'torch'. Where does it say that we humans have more right to existence here on the planet than any other animal? Frankly, for the most part, I find animals friendlier and better company than most people I've recently met.

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                            #21.4 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:29 PM EST

                            Agnes, perhaps your problem is that you're attempting to go through the state. My mother went to an office of the U.S. Forest Service, not state, federal. Perhaps we were helped by the fact that we already had an existing facility, the establishment of which I assume is what you meant by not being cheap. I don't remember mom mentioning having to pay any fees. We had a barn, appropriately fenced pens and pasture for baby goats, goats milk, and since fawns and kids are born at the same time of year, we also had the colostomy required to jump start the fawns immune system. Plus we had motherly nanny goats to adopt them.

                              #21.5 - Fri Feb 1, 2013 2:34 AM EST

                              Let me get this straight...the little squirrel eats her nuts? Wow, too bad the Ed Sullivan Show is long gone, that act would fit in just fine between the Beatles and the plate-spinner.

                                #21.6 - Sat Feb 2, 2013 9:56 AM EST
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                                Comment author avatarJoshua Delysvia Facebook

                                that sounds just like the department of natural resources...if they dont like it or dont understand it or it wasnt they're idea they destroy it....just like the grey wolves they reintroduced into the national forests in washington, now they wanna kill them off....government.....dont understand and never will.....

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                                Reply#22 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:10 AM EST

                                It's not the government ,it's the mentally challenged that seem to get into the woodwork and then it's hard to get them out !!!

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                                #22.1 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:28 PM EST
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                                This is sad! Ridiculous! I mean, it's not like they captured a deer, beat it and abused it. They were caring for it. I just don't understand some people....

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                                Reply#23 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:18 AM EST

                                WOW, They help the deer out and get in trouble, if they would have shot the deer, they would have been in trouble for not having a deer tag or crulity to an animal. If you don't help a person in need, you could be in trouble and if you do help them, they take you to court for doing something wrong to them. Man oh man what a world we live in.

                                • 3 votes
                                Reply#24 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:32 AM EST

                                And the government was going to kill the poor animal? Thank the Lord that he escaped...or that his rescuers helped them do it.

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                                Reply#25 - Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:12 PM EST

                                Looks like all receipients of government welfare should run for their "deer" life, cuz Social Security Admin and Dept of Human Services may start euthanizing those whe are on welfare too long and got use to it to the point they are unable to take care of themselves :)

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                                #25.1 - Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:23 PM EST

                                Now THAT'S a good idea, smooth.

                                  #25.2 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:38 PM EST
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