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Subscribe to RSSTwo days after a teen who performed at President Obama's inauguration weekend was gunned down, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel is set to yank 200 cops from desk jobs and make them fight crime on the streets. NBC's Kevin Tibbles reports.
Two days after a teen who performed at President Obama's inauguration weekend was gunned down, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel is set to yank 200 cops from desk jobs and make them fight crime on the streets.
The reassignment was recommended by city officials last week, according to NBC Chicago, but it took on new significance Thursday as 15-year-old Hadiya Pendleton became the face of Chicago's stubbornly high murder rate.
The sophomore was shot dead Tuesday while sheltering from the rain with fellow members of the volleyball team in a park near her well-regarded high-school, in an upscale section of Chicago's South Side less than a mile from President Obama's home.
The bullet that struck her upper back was meant for someone else, police said. No arrests have been made, and police increased the reward in the case to $24,000.
“When any young person in our city is gunned down without reason, it demands action from all of us,” Emanuel said at a press conference.
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Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, shown here at a conference on gun violence, is set to announce he will put 200 more cops on the street.
“As we grieve for Hadiya, we need to work together to protect our greatest resource, the children of the city of Chicago.”
Emanuel said when he took office he redeployed 570 officers who were on desk duty and credited that with reducing Chicago’s overall crime rate by 8.5%, even as its murder rate increased.
There were more than 500 slayings in Chicago last year. That's about half the number there were in 1974, but still represented an increase over the previous year at a time when other cities are reporting steady decreases in homicides.
Hopes that 2013 would be less bloody were dashed by a grim statistic: 42 people were killed in Chicago this month, making it the deadliest January in more than a decade, according to the Chicago Tribune.
The death of Pendleton -- a majorette with the King College Prep marching band who traveled to Washington to take part in inauguration festivities -- sparked outrage across the nation.
At the White House, a spokesman said the Obamas were praying for her family. On Capitol Hill, her name was invoked during debate over gun control.
Emanuel said the police have been getting tips about who might have killed Pendleton and wounded a 16-year-old friend – both innocent victims caught in what investigators suspect was a gang-related turf war.
The mayor had a message for anyone with information: “Please step forward. That is what a good neighbor does.”
Hadiya Pendleton, center, with her school marching band in Washington a week before she was shot dead in Chicago.
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Nate Pendleton comforts his son Nathaniel, 10, and his wife Cleopatra in a neighborhood park where his daughter Hadiya was killed.
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So what percentage increase in police is this? Is it 200 on top of 500 existing or 5,000 existing? More meaningless drivel from Rahm Emanuel and NBC news.
"And in Chicago, Emanuel called for an end to the "no-snitching" credo that leaves many shootings unsolved."
Good move, that'll solve the problem.
Is this what it takes to finally step up to the plate?!
You would think that when there are 500 murders a year, they would've done this a long time ago "BUT", when this poor little girl gets killed, suddenly, every body's up in arms..
You know why?! Because she "Sang" at President Obama's inauguration. For some reason, I don't think they would have put 200 more cops out there if she didn't sing for him.
The man upstairs, works in mysterious ways and maybe it's his work since Chicago didn't seem to notice before hand.
I think if you change one word in your above statement, it becomes clearer. Take out the word "poor" and replace it with "rich prep school"
The 200 cops is a direct response to the intense media attention this story is getting. Part of the reason it's getting attention is because she performed at the Inauguration. That said, the cynic in me still believes this story would have strong legs even without the Inauguration twist.
Bottom line: She was a rich, prep-school kid and pretty. If she had lived in Chicago's poverty stricken, crime riddled inner city areas, there might be 1 National story on it and then the National press would let it fade into obscurity. The City might deploy 2 extra cops for a week. If she had been a 15 year old boy, it would get even less of a response. The press loves wealthy and pretty. Everyone else... you're on your own.
OMG, that's 200 more guns on the street......
CD - are you saying the friend I'm allowing to live in our finished attic area (you, know, the man upstairs, due to his jobless situation) is doing something aboutthis?
Ummm... so why didn't they call for more police on the streets after the prior incident to this one? or the one before that? *and so on...and so forth*
Well the gangs buy their guns from SOMEONE.
Gun owners who sell their guns without getting a Bill of Sale and reporting the Sale are responsible.
So stop the protesting.... only a gun-owner can prevent gun violence.
And I wonder if Home Land Security is paying the bill for the 200 officers.....
RI mom...maybe they are getting their guns from Justice sting operations gone wrong. Maybe they are stealing their guns. Maybe they are buying guns from other criminals. Maybe they are buying them legally because they have a juvenile criminal record that is off the books when they turn 18.
Even at that this story is about a murder in the city of Chicago where they have the strictest gun laws possible. The city of Chicago is the poster child of this nation when it comes to dealing with gun violence and crime. Anyone who would harbor any of their murders or have a "no snitch" policy is as awful as the murder themselves. The city of Chicago needs to get their attorneys in gear about how they can effectively eradicate their gang plague and go after the bad guys. Where is their modern day Elliot Ness?
My prayers for this young woman's family and friends. Another soul of possibility stolen.
I live in Chicago and some of the gang shootings are spilling into the "good neighborhood." What I don't understand is why that park or the corner didn't have a blue light camera. The city is rolling them out veryyyy slowly....unlike NYC which has cameras on every corner. Every house in those neighborhoods should have cameras on the porch, every business should have external cameras. If people won't snitch, let the cameras catch the person.
And RI Mom is right, the gangs are getting their guns from somewhere (Indiana?) and stopping the flow of guns (as the Mayor & Chief has said) will stop the gang shootings.
And these little gangsters can't shoot straight. He (and they) jump out of cars and just start shooting? How stupid is that? He doesn't even know who he's shooting at.
I lived in Chicago and a good neighborhood can be one street where the gangs live next door or on the next block.
200 more cops will do absolutely no good unless they are directed to "Seek and Destroy" any situation that can be associated with gang activity. Please do not act like the cops do not know exactly who the gangbangers are or where they live. Adopt a program where anytime a gangbanger sticks their slimy head out of a door, a cop is there to put a dent into it. Pressure the gangs to seek safer places to live, like New York perhaps. Make it so dangerous to live there for them that Mexico City looks like a good place to move.
Instruct the Cops to lay off of law abiding citizens and concentrate on the violent offenders instead of eating doughnuts.
Lazarus
Why is more police the response in this case but when suggested by NRA for our school children, the administration rejected the idea?
Once Obozo the Clown succeeds in doing away with the 2nd. Amendment all of us law abiding citizens will be at the mercy of these violent gangs and madmen
Larry
All the criminals and madmen will all move to New York where the radical liberal Governor is essentially trying to ban all law abiding citizens from gun ownership
This radical liberal has even mentioned confiscation of all Law abiding citizens guns --so the entire population will be left defenseless against these criminals
RI Mom & Sally in Chicago
Who is to say where the guns came from. Quit blaming responsible citizens with guns.
A much more likely suspect could be Eric Holder and the guns used could have been acquired from his "Fast & Furious" program.
The guns could have come in a drug shipment. They only cost money. A lot of gangs are flush with cash thanks to drugs and theft.
The problem is not the guns. It is the total lack of morals and values that parents taught their children that live there. Taking God out of the classroom and peoples lives along with broken families is the major cause.
If you have the time, look up a video with google called, "Agenda: Grinding America Down". It is available for watching for free on vimeo. It is about 90 minutes.
Anyway, my prayers for the girl and her family. This is my opinion. Sonya
Here is a thought..how about life without parole if you commit any crime involving a gun?
So everyone who is Anti-gun is now okay with more cops with guns on the streets? If you are confident that the cops will get to your house in time to save your life....god bless ya.
Thanks to Drug Prohibition and the War on Drugs.
Oh, sure. That's what everyone needs...more religion. Religion hasn't given us any violence at all (sar).
Ummmm, didn't anyone ever tell you that criminals rob thousands of houses a day. Their main target is to "STEAL" guns from the home.
They then file off the serial # so it cannot be traced but they still have ways with x-ray to recover it. Not always successfully.
What?! Incorrect. Again, if I sell my gun, I have paperwork for it. I "have" to by law, report that I sold it and to who.
I mean, what if I did sell it illegally. The scenario is that the guy I sold it to could kill someone, toss it in the bushes, the police find it, trace the serial # back to me, then arrest "me"!
Either they'll try to charge me with murder, or they'll charge me with accessory to murder for not reporting that I sold it.
In certain states, you have to have a background check on the person you're selling it to..
You snitch on a gang member and they find out you did it, you are as good as dead.
You are especially as good as dead because Rahm Emanual has dis-armed you, he is denying you your human right to self defense.
Rahm, you are a real piece of work. A sad, pathetic piece of work.
I live in Texas. My reference to God and religion is for the morals and values that are taught. Someone came to my house last night because they had the address wrong. I had a loaded gun ready in my hand in my pocket just in case. I was home alone at the time and I am a small older female. I have never had to pull a weapon yet, but having one did save my life when a criminal saw that I was armed.
I have never pointed a gun at a human. I have shot one wild hog and a crazed rabid dog, when I lived & worked in the country.
Actually, I believe in the war on drugs. They lower peoples intelligence and affect their health. I have seen too many on coke, bath salts, heroin & meth. I know nothing about what mariuana does, though I understand it causes health problems similar to smoking cigarettes with some mental changes.
Anyway, I don't go where I can not carry, and anyone that enters my home is aware of my fondness for self protection. I don't have an AR-15 yet, but will when the price comes back down. I probably have something else that will work in a pinch, though.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ, but there will be a very high price to pay.
In my opinion. Sonya aka Numb3rTech
Chicago got, and continues to get, exactly what it elected...
We are ALL Americans . . . these children are OUR children, and this country's future . . . at least, the ones who don't get slaughtered are.
Chicago (& Detroit) should be treated the way we would treat foreign countries where this kind of slaughter & lawlessness are going on . . . .
Imagine a 3rd-world country (any one of your choice - Haiti & Somalia come to my mind) in this kind of trouble & chaos . . . what would we do? we would send in AID - to alleviate poverty, to get the violence under control, to help.
These people are part of the AMERICAN FAMILY . . . if we are the Judeo-Christian nation that most of us say that we are, then these are our brothers (and sisters,) and we ARE our Brother's Keepers . . .
They deserve love and compassion and help . . . not hate & criticism.
Please pray for the hopefully-not-lost souls of these deeply-troubled cities.
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Maybe these two hundred police who having been working at desk jobs can go around to the gang members and give them some forms to fill out to divert their attention for a while. When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
Regardless of what percentage of the total police force it is, it's a step in the right direction, especially if they're put on the beat in high crime neighborhoods.
Let's just jump the gun here.(so to say)Activate a brigade of National Guards and have them go into Chicago and do a shake down of the gangs.I'd be willing to bet they already have had plenty of practice doing this if they have ever been deployed to Afghanistan or Iraq.Just saying,It's The same deal over there everyone has a gun.(and they are just as willing to use them)
.. a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any particular individual citizen... - Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. App.181)
200 Cops that have been sitting behind desks for years....That ought to put fear into the Gang-Bangers.....when's the last time these Cops qualfied at the Police Gun Range ( if they even have one in Chicago) ??.....A little advice for the Desk Jockey's...Make sure to clean all the cobwebs out of your Service Revolver...and put in some fresh ammo....or better yet...upgrade to a Glock 17...6 shot snub-nose .38 Specials are no match for any gun a thug is packin'.......
It's gonna be 3 degrees below zero in Chicago by tomorrow.....I hopes that they got warm Official CPD Police Jackets and Ear-Muffs !!!....This aught to be good !!!!
I predict a rash of retirements in the very near future....
200 more cops now. 2,000 more over the next year. Also, add a stop and frisk policy. Also, right of assembly for gangs needs to be dissolved. Cops should raid gang hangouts (even if it's a member's Gramma's house) , frisk, take weapons, arrest everyone there. These are mostly minority people getting killed by other minority folks.. Jesse and Al should org a millionman march to support the cops. This will be a switch as they have previously been protecting the perps. See what that has produced. This young girl's story is particularly disturbing as is the one last year of the 12 year old on her porch when she got killed the same way. Rahm ought to stop his insane rage against legal gun owners and devote his efforts toward cracking down on the people killing these children. But he is still prejudiced by thinking he is in a war against evil white people who like to collect AR-15's. But these children and the 500 plus Chicago victims each year are not being killed by AR's. And he cannot bring himself to address the real problem of who the criminals are and who they are killing and why they are turning on their own kind like they are. Until he figures it out and changes his efforts to the real problem the poor kids of Chicago are going to continue to be victims. God help them, because their gubmint leaders are on the wrong path.
More people with guns. The right should be thrilled as we move closer to a total police state.
One of the executive orders Obama signed a couple weeks ago was:
"18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers."
So, rather than rejecting the idea, he embraced it.
Dennis
True story in southwest Akron. There was a convenience store that kept changing hands every few years. Why? It kept being robbed every few months, and when the owners had enough of it, they would sell the store. The robberies stopped 2 years ago after the new owner blew away the first person who tried to rob the store.
Meanwhile there are 3 banks in the Highland Square area of Akron. At least one of them seems to get robbed about every 4 or 5 months (whether a person at the ATM or walking in the Bank). The police come, investigate, and usually arrest the culprit(s) in hours to a few months. Sometimes it takes longer to get the culprit.
Which scenario is actually better? The convenience store or the bank? Or Chicago, where there have been 40 declared homicides in 29 days and a number waiting to be declared homicides?
They'll get to the aftermath of crimes 10% faster.
Agreed. Someone should tell this jack-hole that he should call in the guard for neighborhood sweeps.
Either that or fence it all off and let them kill each other as the food runs out.
More cops won't fix this.
Ban the manufacture of all guns!
Rahm has already as much as admitted that the best available response to gun violence is to put more people on the streets with guns. It is up to the citizenry to decide whether they should be police or not.
DB Obviously, given the data you present, the blowing away of the bad guy is better. However there is a small store in a little town in the misdwest that has never been robbed, other than a little bit of shoplifting of bubblegum now and then. There, that's even better.
Ourlegal weapons distribution system is full of leaks. We need to plug the leaks. If we can stangle the ability of the bad guys to get guns, we can slow things down a little, and start to remove the guns from the hands of the bad guys. Do you think that's worth a try? Or do you think allowing large companies to profit from these guns falling into the wrong hands is a good idea?
you mean enforce EXISTING laws? What a concept.
Do you honestly believe that large companies actually make a "profit" from the sales that go to criminals. You do realize that the majority of profits from arms sales are those that are made to law enforcement and the military don't you? Most sales to criminal types are off the books and NEVER will be on the books... last I checked criminals don't follow the law. What do you want, make illegal sales illegal?
If by "yanking 200 officers from desk duty to fight crime on the streets" you mean "generate revenue through traffic citations, speeding fines, and parking tickets", then yes, that is what Rahm Emmanuel is doing. Why would anyone vote for this fool?
Nobody has ever lost an election by underestimating the intelligence of the voters.
Good reason to help turn this country into an even bigger police state. Sounds like the dude walked straight up to her and shot her - IDK what more cops would have done to stop that aside from patting down every single pedestrian and taking away their weapons...
I wonder how many gangbangers have been put down by the Chicago PD in the last year or so. I can pretty much guarantee that when (if) that number goes substantially up, these senseless shootings will go down. These thugs do what they do, because they have convinced themselves that they OWN that block, or that street, or that section of town. And you know what? So far they are right. They do OWN it. Until the city leadership, and law enforcement (along with armed citizens) take back the streets from these degenerates, then violent crime will continue unabated.
Let's see if it helps. If the murder rate in Chicago doesn't drop within the next two months then why not try allowing and promoting concealed carry in Chicago instead of fighting it at every turn? I mean at this point, what does Chicago have to lose? It would give us some hard data on which side of ideals involved in the current hot button topic of gun control is the most effective. Fact of the matter is, where CWP laws have been embraced and supported, violent crime has fallen. What's 200 more cops in the city the size of Chicago? Also, yanking them from desks only means errors in processing will increase which means just that many more dangerous people will end up right back on the streets.
such a sad story. We need harsher punishments for the bad guys
Not harsher, we just need to make sure the punishments are "one time and final."
We have become a nation of wimps and dogooders. We continue to leave the trash to repeat their activities and wring our hands about how "it should be."
Maybe Dirty Harry, The Mechanic and some others should visit Chicago, then DC, hit Detroit and clean up the problem.
Harse, yes. But what we are doing now sure isn't working.
Concealed carry won't do a thing. Do some research.
The vast majority of gun violence and death in Chicago is due to gang related crime.
Young black men from 18-24 out at night on a public street after dark during the late summer, in particular.
The stats are all there to find - just google Chicago police crime report and read the 2011 report.
It's almost all criminals shooting criminals.
The rate of gun crime and violence committed by law abiding citizens has dropped by 2/3 in 20 years while it's been more than made up for by those that already have records.
Bill,
I agree with you. I am good with taking a page out of the Saudi or Iranian playbook. We start cranking out some of those types of punishments then we will see crime drop fast.
If it was up to me, anybody who commits a violent crime gets a minimum of ten years. Murder and attempted murder=the electric chair. Rape equals life in prison and the electric chair in some cases. Assault with a deadly weapon=10 years minimum. No parole or early release for any of these guys.
The harsher the better as far as I am concerned.
Truth,
Those (Saudi and Iranian) types of punishments are pretty extreme. And as for your punishments, they too seem extreme. Sometimes there are mitigating circumstances. I'm certainly not defending rapists and murderers. At the same time, it's been proven for over 50 years that capital punishment does not work as a deterrent to crime.
Kiragami,
Capital punishment deters the guy who committed the crime from committing another one. That is, he or she is gone and will never be able to kill somebody again.
In terms of the other stuff, all I want to be is left alone. I am sick of hearing the "extenuating circumstance" excuse. Seriously, wth does that mean? When did extenueting circumstances give somebody the right to murder or rape somebody? I'm tired of hearing about it and putting up with it. If we got harsher on sentencing then crime would come down. Let's put the violent bad guys away for a long time and up to forever including the death sentence.
The non-vilolent ones I am way more flexible on. Ankle bracelet, home confinement....etc. No problem there.
It is the violent ones we need to deal with swiftly and harshly. Crank up the chair and have regular executions--it wil bring crime down. More importantly, it will insure the just punishment and eliminate those that have earned the right to be put to death.
Such acts of random violence demand more than bans on semi-automatic weapons. Read for a discussion of the issues.
You mean like doing something about gangs? Reaching out to black youth?
Doing something about handguns?
Going after semi-automatics is a waste of time, they are used in an infinitesimally small percentage of gun crimes.
But they sure scare the white liberal middle class women into doing something!
Read rationalexaminer.com
if the police go out and crack down on the chicago gang bangers they will vilified by the in the media. Rahm, Jessie, and Al need to work the streets themselves. Poor parents and young lady wasted for no no reason.
Rahm, Jessie and Al,,,, three of the biggest losers in the country, all three crooks and camera hogs.
MNJ -- do you live in NYC or Chicago? If not, then STFU! Jesse has been very very good for his people. You only concentrate on the bad. Rahm is a good city manager....there's more to managing a city than "gang-control"! And the Rev. Al obviously must be a good person or he would have a job.
Now, I could do a flip side and talk about Pat Robertson, et al, but I won't....I'm not that low.
Sally.... some folks look for answers, but that requires effort. Other folks look for scapegoats - no effort required. Can't find an easy answer? Too far removed from the problem to care?
Then just blame "Al and Jessie". It's SOOOOOO easy and no effort or thinking is required.
Good posts Sally and Harold.
As an aside, Harold, I love your screen name. I'm assuming it refers to the Primus song, which is one of my favorites. Good stuff...
Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls right off a rhino - saurus.
Fact is he just doesn't make much sense. Well Stan said,
I always thought the above lines made it the perfect bulletin board name.
Jessie and Al are bozo ambulance chaser types. They need to stay out of anything that requires a solution.
Agreed .... if you can prove that only good people have jobs. Do the words "Tawana Brawley" mean anything to you?
Denver,
I follow you. LOL. Al is a shyster
what a couple of dumb@!$%#s.
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Chicago has been and always will be a city of vilonece and corruption. The good people of Chicago can take back their city by 1. Voting out city council and the mayor. 2 issueing wepaons permits to as many as can be. 3. Fighting back against violence with violence. These thugs aren't as bad as you think they are, they are just cowards hiding behind a gun. Easy to be brave when know one is shooting back and this thug still ran just like a coward. The problem is that no one dares snitch on the thugs. Someone in broad daylight had to have seen something.
Only in Chicago, as the law abiding citizen's aren't armed. If I lived their, I would be armed. I don't care what their laws say, I have the right to defend myself. And if that means emptying a 30 or 50 round clip into a gangbangers car who is shooting at people, then that's what I would do.
Then listen to the idiots back them screaming a white woman shot up several black male teenagers. Guess what, they had it coming if they are shooting up my neighborhood. 200 extra cops isn't going to stop them from killing each other.
But sooner or later, I would think they would be running out of targets. People can't breed that fast to replace the ones already shot. Maybe just build a huge wall around those neighorhoods, and let them fight to the finish. Then send in the police to arrest the ones left for murder. That would solve the problem.
But really, it's going to be up to the citizens, not the cops, politicians, or anyone else but the citizens who live there. When they get tired of their kids, spouses, other relatives getting blown away, they might step up and handle it themselves. Like the should have at the beginning of this happening to their community.
Neither of you know what the F* you're talking about. There are gun owners in Chicago, people are permitted to own a gun....I OWN a gun...You buy the gun, you register the gun, you pay $100 and you take gun classes.
So again, all you who don't live in Chicago, don't know a doggone thing.
Sally in Chicago
The way you respond I would be scared of you with a gun, and who is Pat Robertson?
"And the Rev. Al obviously must be a good person or he would have a job."
Like good people don't have jobs,,, I would think if he were any good at all he would have a job.
Take care and have a good day.
above you blame "Al, Jessie, and Rahm" for the violence in Chicago, so you're keen on name-dropping, but you don't know who Pat Robertson is? WTF?
SallyAnn.
you're probably wrong on the breeding observation. After all, this is a town full of Jessie Jackson types who father illigitimate kids all the time.
The 'horse is out of the barn' with the myriad of gangs putting down and establishing deep roots decades ago in cities throughout our nation. It was allowed to happen and this is the price we are paying now for kicking that can down the road. Targeting and dissipating this low life, violent infestation of society is now a monumental task and their rights seem to always supersede those of their victims. Nobody wants to bring this war to the streets of America, but maybe it is time to bring it... For the fate of our children and children's children it may well be the time to mobilize and start taking out the trash!
I agree to that. Those gang-bangers do nothing, absolutely nothing, to better America. Like the old saying,"live by the gun, die by the gun." If that is what it's going to take, then let's get it started and over with. The law abiding citizens out number these punks, so it shouldn't take long to empty the trash cans.
The Republican -- you know there are Russian gangs? Chinese gangs? Italian gangs? and it goes on and on all over the world. I suggest you look at these movies, City of God (Brazil), and Eastern Promises about the Russian gangs.
So Obama's trusted advisor, Rohm Emanuel, seems to believe that the way to protect the citizens of Chicago is with more people (in this case police officers) who are armed. Chicago already has about the toughest gun ownership laws in the nation. Bad guys don't get their weapons at your local gun store and go through background checks.
Anybody see Rahm's request to dump all of their unfunded medical liabilities onto the Obamacare exchanges. ?? He wants fed tax payers to pay for his cities/states union contracts. Ill has no money to pay what they promised (liberals never do) so now loser @!$%#head Rahm Emanual wants us all to pitch in. Let Chicago GTH. It's already a third world type place. Give the Dems and this president long enough and he will have the whole country modeled after his beloved Chicago. Wow, we have some dumb folks in the country. I'd say like 51% of the electorate. Public school education for ya.
its about time Chicago kicked some ass. and the blacks that live there better start talking up . doing something that i hear about on the news and voicing their opinion and getting serious about not using guns like it is a normal thing to do. what happened to the old fashion fist fight if you want to get violent. if you have to get out a gun all the time you are chicken st_t then don't do anything. the things that happen in Chicago make the Zimmerman case in Florida look like a joke.
Puting a officer on the street does not stop a violent crime, it allows the officer to respond to a violent crime. I think, (not sure though) that the goal is to limit the amount of violent crime being committed in Chicago. There are long term projects to accomplish this that empower society and attempt to build people up, this takes generations and so I think we are talking about limiting violent crime now. In order to do this the Police force should put these 200 officers into the anti gang unit. The city needs to pass anti gang legislation which makes all the gang members accomplices to the crime committed. If the department is allowed to arrest all known gang members when one committs a crime you will swallow up many of these illegal guns in the process. The accomplice will likely get off on the murder charge as that person was likely not here, though they will not get off the possession of an illegal firearm charge. We have to be cognisent of the 4th amendment but we also need to approach the gang situation from a position of strength and action.
It is difficult to blame these kids when the join a gang. They do it for security because alone they have no chance to survive any of the gangs. Can you blame the other kids who were at the bus stop for not talking, they know if they "snitch" not only will they killed but likely their family.
There is no easy answer and I'm afraid at one point it will come down to the governor & mayor declaring a State of Emergency in which many of our protections are rights are violated in order to "clean up the problem" It will not be pretty and it will not solve the problem forever but more like clear the pot up for a while.
I think it is good to have more cops off their butts and on the streets, but I wonder why it took the death of a nice middle class person to get it done. Did the others not count?
They made the decison before she was murdered.
Someone may want to ask Delaware AG Beau Biden(you know, the VP's son) why he doesn't stand alongside law inforcement
so they are going to take 200 desk-jockeys and put them on the street? Yeah, that will really take a bite out of crime. there's a reason those people were behind a desk to begin with....and not already out on the street. So it's a good thing to take someone who's been pushing paper for the last five years and throw them out on the streets? What brainiac came up with that idea???
This is just sad.
also going to close the barn door...
This is economic stimulus. Doughnut sales will go through the roof.
More cops? How about the national guard to get these gangbanger moron punks off the street once in for all. The city is a killing field and getting near to Cambodia if the idiots in charge don't take drastic action.
For too long our society puts up with these imbeciles who want to rob and kill innocent citizens and we have a failure of leadership all the way from the president down to the local authorities.
How about taking responsibility for the big pay checks the idiots in charge get for doing nothing. We are sick of the violence and the way our society is today.
They spend useless time talking about regulating guns and stepping on our constitutional rights when these idiots running the country or the cities are totally useless. The courts give small prison time to repeat offenders and they get out on the street aften their wonderful vacation time in prison, only to rob and kill again.
Lets get some real strict sentences for these morons and quit letting them out of jail too soon. If the prisons are over crowded, then build some more. At least this will provide some jobs of which the current moron-in-chief along with his suckups has done nothing to get any jobs for the people.
For all of those who voted for obozo the clown and world's greatest BS artist, how is that change going for you now? Hope you enjoy the rest of his tour. You will see more homeless and more welfare and more crime because of your wasted vote.
We don't need more prisons Rick. If we let the pot smokers out of prison there would be plenty of room to incarcerate the murderous gangs.
Why is it always after the fact. SAD very SAD.
ChiCongo is a warzone..
It's not the Guns, it's not the Police... It's Genetics
Murders are way down in Chicago vs years/decades ago...consider that an accomplishment. You can't protect everyone. Maybe these geniuses should look at the real problem, like poverty, boredom, lack of education, etc..
@Rob, yes those are real problems, but why didn't their parents make those kids finish high school? It's not like the parent has to pay tuition like college requires. Bill Cosby, who also has a PHD after his name has asked one really good question, and caught hell from the black community for asking the question.
The question was: "who in their right mind will hire someone who only knows ghetto talk, and have their pants down below the cheeck of their butt?" Every stop to think that might have something to do with poverty and boredom, education, etc.
There is no excuse for children not to finish high school. Nobody is going to hire anyone if they don't have at least a high school education. Put the blame where it belongs, on the PARENTS.
You don't need to be a geniuses to realize exactly who is to blame. It isn't society as the culprit. Blame the real reason, lazy people who think the world owes them a living. I don't owe anyone a living, and nobody owes me a living. I work for my living. I also worked for my education, went without things, because I realized, and had family support (verbally) to continue on to get my degree.
Anyone can do it, if they want to. Just get up off your dead a$$'s and do it.
Chicago should have a stop and frisk policy. It would target mostly black and Latino men but they are the ones committing the vast, vast majority of the crimes/murders. The anti-gun nuts want to do away with my second amendment rights but will, no doubt, oppose a stop and frisk policy. Can't win with libs.
Yeah - that would be a good idea if it wasn't for that pesky US Constitution and the 4th amendment.
I do hope you are joking about this.
Danno...So you want to protect the 4th amendment? How about the 2nd? Or do you like our current President like to pick and choose which ones you want upheld???
Watt - I support both the 2nd amendment and the 4th amendment. My favorite, though is the 10th amendment.
I want to protect the entire Constitution and not have it treated as the law of the land and not as a "guide". We cannot do away with the Constitution because it would make us more safe or any other reason.
Democraps are so laughable. Their leaders always give some pathetic speech an then vow never again. Later they are drinking champagne and remarking to there cohorts... "That should keep the mob happy for awhile."
How do you expect a person to solve a problem when their only skill is to kick the can down the road?
Thank Goodness Emanuel kept Chik-Fil-A out of Chicago. Otherwise the streets would be full of chaos and violence.
NavyVet..."Their leaders always give some pathetic speech an then vow never again."
You mean like this vow: ‘This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this.” – Senator Ted Kennedy, 1986.
Never again. Yeah, right. Try telling that to Obama.
how about we take 200 guns off of the street first and see how that works
You might as well say:
"The Titanic is sinking! Let's take 10 gallons of water out of the ocean and see if it helps!"
The only thing that will work here - and it won't happen - is a brutal and unflinching war on gangs.
So by taking 200 guns from law abiding citizens the crime rate will go down? Or do you think the criminals will just hand over their guns willingly. Wow can you actually be that naive?
Elvoid - thread winner.
Rahm' will do a great job of making sure Chicago is down and stays down. Now he has been going after local banks who have any dealings with the gun industry. Texas Senator, Cruz has already penned a ltter to the gun manufacturers with contact info to Texas financial institutions. Awesome ! Let Chicago lose all those dollars. I hope to live to see some of these liberal politicians jailed or worse.
I don't beleive that most of these shootings in Chicago are gang related , but rather some type of conspiracy;Just think for a moment: Most young blacks don't have the money to buy guns of mass destruction or guns that cost over $500 ; and if you really know what goes on here in Chicago, Illionois, most Black men are in prison systems being used as salves. Sooooo.where and whom are they getting them from and why are they being given the guns? I think for the most part this is some type of motivated conspiracy against allowing the common man the right to bear arms. I believe that there is a group out there that what to disarm poor blacks so they can be killed with out defending themselfs, look what happen to the indiania's and other cultures. (Africa). Something is very unusaul about this whole episode of acts.
Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel must have got a call from Obama. That is why he is putting more police on the streets.
Obama is not that smart. Likely Stedman Holder.