Prisoners working in a nearby park helped save three boys whose kayak overturned in a Washington state creek, fire officials said Thursday.
Three brothers -- ages 8, 10 and 16 -- were floating down Salmon Creek near Salmon Creek Regional Park Wednesday afternoon when their kayak overturned, Clark County Fire District 6 Chief Jerry Green told NBC News. The park is in Washington state just north of Portland, Ore.
Ten prison inmates from the Larch Corrections Center near Yacolt, Wash., were doing park maintenance when they heard screams for help and responded quickly, fire officials told The Columbian newspaper in Vancouver, Wash.
Inmate Nelson Pettis, 37, jumped into the strong current, floating downstream until he could grab the two younger boys and help them to a pile of floating debris, according to the newspaper.
"I don't think I was thinking at all," Pettis told The Columbian. "I was just really concentrating on getting them to safety."
Inmate Larry Bohn, 29, helped Pettis with the rescue: "They (the boys) were saying thank you repeatedly. They just seemed really scared," he told the newspaper.
The 16-year-old boy was able to swim to shore, Green told NBC News.
Inmate Jon Fowler, 28, waited for the rescue team to arrive and helped them inflate their rescue boat, The Columbian reported. Members of the Vancouver, Wash., Fire Department and Clark County Fire District 6 were part of the rescue team.
The water was "very cold" and estimated to be moving at 25 mph, Green said. The brothers were treated for mild hypothermia, but otherwise there were no other injuries, he said. Two of the inmates were also treated for hypothermia, Portland, Ore., NBC affiliate KGW reported.
Bohn and Pettis reportedly had taken off their shirts, wrapping them around the kids to keep them warm, The Columbian reported.
The boys' names were not released.
Green said he was "extremely impressed" with the prisoners' efforts and the fact that they jeopardized their safety.
"(They) stepped up and did what was the right thing to do," Green said.
"I don't think we're heroes by any means," inmate Fowler told The Columbian. "I think we just did what any good person would do."
Nancy Simmons, a spokesperson for the Larch Corrections Center, told NBC News the brothers want to thank the inmates who helped and a meeting with their family is in the works.
This correction facility houses inmates who are not there for violent crimes and who generally have four years or less left on their sentences, Simmons said.
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Thanks guys! Great example for others.
Sounds like some can truly be Rehabilitated. Good work men. You are a credit to your families. Keep it up
Can you say time off for good behaviour ?????????????
Looks like there is hope for those guys after all.
I would say these men may now be looking at a lot less than four years on their sentence. Maybe four days. Everybody makes a wrong turn once in a while but I'd say these guys are back on the right path.
goes to show; not everyone in prison is MEAN!
Thanks to the prisoners.
They put themselves at risk for others. I hope this is taken into consideration, when they are eligible for parole. I also hope they are able to stay positive when they get out of jail; as they seem like people who could be a favorable addition to society.
Perhaps the governor should look into their crimes and sentences and consider some sort of special intervention based on their actions. At least for the one who dove into the current to grab the two youngest boys. He literally risked his own life to save them and may deserve some grace from the state because of it. Had he not been there, the two boys very well could have drowned. (25 mph is a FAST current).
I hope the men get a reduced sentence for their heroism.
I agree....I hope the men get a reduced sentence for their heroism...they certainly deserve it.
They should get an early parole and maybe there's someone out there who can give them a good job so they can start a new life.
Call me harsh or any other word you want... I dont think they should get special treatment.
They did the crime, they should do the time.. After their debt to society has been paid for their transgressions they should go free.
You don't do good deeds to get a reward, or to lessen your jail term in this case. You do the good deeds because you see an issue that you can directly help. In this case 2 children are alive, because they risked their lives.
Ive heard a person say that All prisoners are animals (said by a female coreections officer that I know) I argued with her then but she was set in her ignorant mindset. hope she sees this and maybe changes her mind, although not likely. this proves my point that the human spirit cant be broken by being in a cage. those that are broken were likely that way before they were locked away. These MEN that are on the last leg of their sentence should be let out and given a heroes welcome back into society. just ask the family of those little boys, bet they would lead the parade!! GREAT WORK MEN!! LOVE FROM ME!!!
May they be paroled...
Free the men, they've made up for whatever they've done, at least set them to parole or probation.
Jeremy, prison is about repaying a debt to society. I'd say they payed a huge debt to society.
Jeremy-960164
your comment is ignorant.
when an emergency comes up you don't have the luxury of thinking "whats in it for me" your either respond or you don't. these guys did. they saved two boys lives and that gives them, if only for a little while, hero status. I too don't think time should be reduced as what they did has no bearing on why there are in prison in the first place but it should go on record and be counted for them in any parole hearings. These guys did a good think and it shouldn't be ignored.
So what would a person who's not in prison get for jumping into action? Oh, that's right. Nothing. Just like the inmates should get. A little TV time and nothing more.
It's nice to see good stories in the news from time to time. This story gave me hope for mankind...
Dawgfan-4710266 was spotted spewing this:
I'm willing to bet the parents and friends and family members of those two young boys would harshly disagree with you. Risking one's life to save the life of another should be treated with respect. try showing some...
Of course some can.
However, some understanding needs to be applied here. First off, we have no idea why these men are in the penal system. If they are outside, they are not hard criminals. Even if they were, most are still fiercely loyal to a child's safety.
There's a reason child molesters are separated from the general population. Even if an inmate killed 9 men, they are still most likely willing to lay down their lives to save a child.
I am not trying to take away from their heroic actions, but adding some temperance to the discussion. I see no reason to reduces any sentences, and a parents thanks is most likely more than enough in these men's eyes.
I would say risking their own lives to save the lives of two children is more of a payment to society than 4 years of park maintenance.
I find it rather humorous that none of you know what they are in prison for, yet because they saved these 2 kids, they should be released..
I spent about 5 minutes on google trying to find out why but I only got links to this and other stories like it. All we know is they have less then 4 years left to serve and it was non-violent crimes they committed.
Would you be saying the same thing if say they ran a ponzi scheme like Madoff did? Or if they were con men who bilked seniors of their money? or a car thief who just got caught?
There is a side of the story that we have not been told yet..
Hey Ray,
Outside of praise and thank yous from the family and a little TV coverage, the inmates should get nothing else. They shouldn't be released from prison or given shorter sentences like many people are calling for. All that would do is inmates having people fake life threatening situations so inmates can attempt a rescue to get a shorter prison term. I'm not trying to degrade what they did, but let's be realistic here. They were on a prison work crew for a reason. Not because they volunteered their time to be there.
With a step-son in prison for drugs, I'm here to say that so many of the young men wouldn't be imprisoned if our drug laws were different. My step-son was given more time in AZ than murderers are in other states. He has lost his youth to a 10 year sentence. Yes, he did the crime, yes, he's in a minimum security prison, but I think the sentence was unduly harsh given the nature of his crime. If we'd paid the $15,000 price for a top attorney, he may have had no prison time, but it was our mistake to think that justice was just. We thought he needed a lesson for doing drugs. This is a decision we'll regreat for the rest of our lives. To the point of the story, he would have risen to the occasion. As for what they were in prison for, more than likely for drugs.
To be honest, I'm kinda w/ Jeremy on this one.
Yes, they were heroes to jump in and pull the boys out. However, that doesn't change what they did to get in. If every punishment were erased because of a good deed, there would be no order.
That said, if they are in for drug offenses, just let them out. Those shouldn't be offenses, anyway. And if they're in for any other reason, then let them serve the rest of their sentences, then give them a hero's welcome when they get out, along with a decent job.
I wouldnt say early release, but they have shown that they have been rehabilitated. At least let them out at their first parole hearing. They seem to care about their common man.
I have never seen a greater monster or miracle than myself.
~Michael De Montaigne~
Drugs? Which drug? There is a line on which it depends.
If it was marijuana for personal use, I say let them go... If they were dealing pharmaceuticals, my feelings are different. If it was heroin I have another position entirely.
Nelson Pettis is in prison for drug posession, MFG and delivering. He's been in since April 1994, 19 years. He was 18 when sentenced.
Larry Bohn is in prison for unlawful possesion of a firearm. he's been in since Nov 2002, 11 years. he was 18 when sentenced.
Jon Fowler is in prison for theft. He's been in since May 2005, 8 years. he was 20 when sentenced.
These ,men, regardless of their crimes are true American heroes.
Thank you for saving these kids and their family.
I hope you get an early release for this. IMO, you ave proved to the world that you have been rehabilitated and are good citizens.
I am familiar with these places. They are like big camps out in the middle of nowhere. They are mostly for white collar crimes or similar non violent crimes. My father did a stretch in Taft for fraud, he got two years because he signed that he inspected a property he was writing an appraisal for when really someone else inspected it. This place is out in the middle of nowhere, there are no walls or fences or guard towers. They are on the honor system for the most part because the inmates don't want to start anything and then get sent to somewhere worse. (like a federal "pound me in the ass" prison)
My Dad made a mistake. A lot of people make mistakes and there a a LOT of felony's on the books right now. Our government's first response it seems is to imprison people. The privatization of the prison system encourages the corporations that own the prisons to lobby for more laws with harsher sentences for petty crimes. These companies get paid by the government per year for each inmate in their facilities.
Not everyone that is in prison by a long shot is a murderer, rapist, thief or child molester.
The United States has the most people in prison by % of the population by far than any other country in the world... and our politicians make up new laws every day.
Shellie...
If you are correct...I'd say they've done their time!
I am correct. It's all public record. Seems Jeremy needs lessons on how to google. Took me about 30 seconds per person.
Redwizard - Taft CA is not really the middle of no where now, its only 30 miles from Bakersfield smack in the middle of the Kern COunty Oilpatch. To me the middle of no where is 50 or 60 miles from a city, no other industry, minimal roads (Taft is not that far from I5) etc.
if those crimes (and time spent) are correct - i'd say we've wasted a whole lot of money warehouseing them all these years.
explain to me how spending $30K a year to warehouse each of these people, for these crimes...makes any amount of sense?
I agree, they should have been punished...but I dont think this is how we should be doing it.
The times, are not even remotely, fitting the crimes...
and WE ARE PAYING FOR THIS!
and then, these folks are going to get out prison - have literally ZERO options for getting a job, and they'll be forced back into a life of crime because it's the only way to earn money to survive in america.
we are one messed up society that we dont think 2 steps ahead in ANYTHING we do...we're absolutely nuts.
we deserve to reap every financial blow this nation receives, based on all the sh!t we've sown.
meanwhile, some douche in the military who shoots and kills his friend "while drunk" is getting 3-1/2 years???
if anyone is wondering why our nation is going collectively nuts, it's because this nation is nuts...and the rules by which we all exist in it have no rhyme, or reason...let alone any consistency.
we reap what we sow...pure insanity
Hey, If they were my kids, I'd be camping on the Governor's doorstep! None were in for violent crimes. It sounds like they've been in long enough.
How much more "rehabilitation" could they need? If they can get out, get a job, and stay out of trouble, Great! If not the prison will still be there.............................
they should be in CT.The gov lets everybody out regardless of crime(from petty larceny to manslaughter)
These are the same men, thanks to the watering down of our Constitution, who will have some of their Constitutional rights taken from them forever.
The United States...truth, justice and the American way. Sometimes not.
well when your in prison life can be depressing and sad. sometimes when ur sad. the satifaction of helping others puts a smile on ur face. u have nothing to lose when ur locked up. im not a inmate but im not happy with my life. i love helping others. animals, other humans, my enviroment. its the satisfaction that makes me a little happier. trying to do something postive. if im ever in jail. i hope im around inmates like this cuz jail can be a scary corrupt place and very difficult life every single day. but it would be a lot easier being around ppl like these inmates.
they are not getting time off from good behavior. regardless of what they did, this is still a money making buisness for the judge, police and CEO's of the private prisons. while the media makes it look like inmates belong in prison or drugs is the only reason. ppl are locked up for many reasons. we have more police then any other country in the world. we have only 300 million people which is less then 5% of the worlds population but yet we have 1/4 or over 25% of the worlds prison population. reason why we have a system like this is becuase america is the most poweful corporate country in the world. we are number 1 in GMO foods meaning our foods are gentically modified more then anyone else in the world making us sick. reason why? the power of food corporations which has kicked out farmers from america. same goes with the prisons. its a buisness. its owned and for the more inmates they get, the more money they get. the money comes from the state which gets it from the taxpayers so no1 is a loser. not the judge, not the cop, not the CEO. only the inmate and the taxpayers are the losers.
Non violent crimes? 4 years or less? C'mon, let them out early... Too bad it will never happen.
hope they keep them in prison...it's too dangerous out here with the rest of us...
They will probably not get no free time. But they are heroes. Not many people of any kind would risk there life like they did.
Agreed Shipwrecked. Depending on the nature of the crimes that got them there in the first place, I hope the powers-that-be can see a way of giving those inmates a few days bonus good time (of which gets them out early based on those good days).
I agree. Positive reinforcement is a very powerful way to change negative behaviors.
News flash. Not all inmates are bad people. Many are human beings with feelings. I am still impressed.
Not all inmates are bad people...some are good people who just made a mistake and hopefully will do well when they are free again. But NEWS BREAK! Not all inmates are guilty. Unfortunately, sometimes (possibly oftentimes) our justice system is unjust and has many problems. And - unfortunately many have no means of a good defense and are convicted on circumstantial evidence. Sad but true.
I commend these inmates for doing the right thing regardless of the circumstances they have found themselves. Kudos to them.
How nice to read some good news for a change.
can see a way of giving those inmates a few days bonus good time
Naw. They are already being rewarded with the opportunity to be outside enjoying the sky, fresh air and something constructive to do. Some praise for doing the right thing for sure, an extra pudding cup maybe.
Heartless prick
Sometimes humanity will prevail. I think that 99.99% of the population would have done the same thing, however, I'm glad these men had a chance to redeem themselves in a very positive manner. I'm glad all survived without too much ado.
BTW, canoeing/kayaking in the winter time isn't something I would want to do. Water tends to be quite cold this time of year.
Unfortunately, zapper, most people would not do the same thing. Most people end up milling around waiting for someone else to step in and help. Part of that is because people have been sued for helping because not all states protect good samaritans. And part is because they are too afraid or too inexperienced or just don't know what to do. And then there are those who just don't want to help, but do want to watch.
I commend the inmates for stepping up and helping. Especially in cold water moving that quickly. Even experienced swimmers can get into trouble in that situation.
It's about the inmates, of course. Congratulations and thanks to them.
But jeeze.... Do these kids have parents? Who would let kids that age do such a thing? Eight, ten, and sixteen? Obviously couldn't care less if their kids are dead.
Give the kids to the inmates who saved them. Sounds like they would be better parents.
My beloved nephew got into trouble about ten years ago when he got involved with drugs in college. He did some jail time too. It cost him a lot. He has an arrest record and even though he has been completely clean for five years, that record follows him everywhere. He has had trouble getting jobs, although he is incredibly smart and a college grad. He decided the best way to handle it is to be up front at interviews and that has worked out well for him. He's a great guy and everybody loves him - until they find out about his past. He got kicked out of a community he loved living at because they found out he had an arrest record. People do stupid things and deserve a second chance. Congrats to these inmates for doing such a fine thing. Three boys survived because of their actions - thanks. By the way, my nephew saved a dog from drowning by his quick action. An acquaintance said to me she didn't care what my nephew ever did wrong, he was a hero in her book because he saved that dog.
Sunny, you don't need to convince me that all inmates are not always guilty. I know that very clearly, but I too do not believe that the bulk of society believes that. AND I know money talks. These gentlemen put their lives on the line to save these kids in a moments flash. That is the essense of this story. I believe in Karma and hope these men have wonderful lives ahead of them.
Jersey - I would suggest he was not 'kicked' out of a community because of his arrest record unless he had to register as a sex offender and from your post I did not get that. I would suggest that his neighbors hassled him so much he left thus being 'run' out. I also think that non-violent and non-economic offenders (like some drug offenders) should not have thioer records available for employment review after a set period of time after the completion of the full sentance (time served and parole). Lets all admit that kids do stupid stuff and once they finally grow up they can be wonderful functioning members of society.
Holly, I would suggest you accept Jerseys word for what happened since you do not know the circumstances. I would suggest you re-read the post where Jersey used the term "they" and not "a". I would suggest it best you not open your mouth so you can refrain from putting your foot it.
So, what are you saying, Dennis? One life =one pudding cup? You don't life very dear, do you?
Patter123
You never did anything without first telling your parents did you?
I doubt they will get reduced time based on this alone, but it could be a factor in parole or supervised probation releases. But good counter-example to the mindset that says anyone who commits a crime is worthless scum who should be "put down" (said often enough on these comment lines). Anyway, inmates put on work details are generally those whose criminal history and behavior in corrections indicate they are a good risk for working in the community. Plenty of inmates all over the country do things like sandbag during floods, paint houses for elderly people, and other community service. Inmates in some places who are not allowed out at all still work in areas like caring for aged inmates with Alzheimers and other work that shows heart.
It is said that one judges a country by the quality of its prisons. If that crew in Washington had been a chain-gang the outcome of this story would have been quite different. The children saved from drowning can thank first the State of Washington for having these work release projects. Second the lack of impulse control that allowed them to jump into a dangerous river is perhaps the same lack of impulse control that landed them in jail in the first place. Are lack of impulse control and heroic behavior the same thing? That said, I'm quite certain I would not have jumped into that river. They deserve a medal even if they have to serve more time.
hollykb - you are completely wrong. All of his arrests were drug related - he is no sex offender or anything close. Because of his drug use, he lost his fiance, the love of his life and he was completely heartbroken. In FL where this all happened, I kept track of his arrest record which you can view easily online in Hillsborough County. The really painful thing is the guy who learned of his arrest record is someone my nephew helped out a lot for free. This guy took the Hillsborough County arrest record of my nephew and distributed it thru the neighborhood. The management kicked my nephew out. You cannot imagine how hurt my nephew was over this action done by someone he thought a friend, especially since he had been clean for a long time. I went to all of my nephew's hearings and visited him weekly when he was in rehab, along with his mom. The only consolation in all of this is that he has been free of drugs for a long time now and is making a very good fresh start. I hope these inmates catch a break.
Ron, thanks for your common sense reply. Everything I wrote about the situation with my nephew is the truth. He has lived with me for most of the past ten years, including those years when he used drugs. It was no picnic. He was well liked on my street and at one point when he was in jail, a neighbor came up to me and asked how he was doing and said "you know, I've always liked him and hope things change." My nephew is very congenial and friendly and will give you the shirt off his back. He made a mistake with the drugs, but that is long past. He paid a very high price. I'm happy to say he is now working towards a second degree - this one in engineering - and his employer has so much faith in him that he is paying the college tuition. In the end, my nephew is a success story and I hope these three inmates will also find success.
Yeah I am sure some will. But seeing as how once you get out of prison, even though you have served your time and "paid your debt to society" you are still branded a felon FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!
You know how hard it is to get a job with a felony on your record?
Lets say you are in prison for selling Marijuana. While on the outside you made a lot of money selling drugs. On the inside you meet people who also sell drugs and they teach you a new way to do it. They also give you their contact numbers to keep in touch.
But lets say while inside you want to turn your life around and be a good citizen when you are released. So you take advantage of inmate work and schooling programs and get an associates degree from the prison and make a real commitment to changing.
You are finally released. The federal Government dumps you on the street with nothing, maybe they put you in a half way house, but you are not discouraged. You write a resume and start applying for jobs.
Only problem is, once you tell those jobs you have a felony no one wants to hire you. You cant get a job at Jack in the Box with a felony.
You cant pay the rent because you cant find a job, you cant eat, you cant take care of yourself and no one cares about you because you are an ex con.
Faced with starvation, you turn to the one career you know for sure will make you money... you start selling weed again. You call your friend from prison and the two of you get together and start a business.
Before long you get caught and thrown back in jail where the cycle repeats itself. The corporations who own the jail you have been sent to are happy to welcome you back because now they can collect money from the feds to watch you for the next 20 years or whatever you got.
All because you were selling weed to people who were asking for it... in a culture where MJ use is becoming more and more mainstream and accepted.
The government sets these people up for failure and then they are surprised when they re offend. Keep in mind we are not talking about a murderer, or a child molester here. Violent offenders with a history of being violent offenders should be handled separately and kept separately.
JerseyCat - FIrst I never meant to imply your nephew was a sex offender (and i acutally bet to myself it was a drug offense). My point that I apparently made very badly (and to you and your nephew I do appologize) is that once a person has done their time for anything other than a sexual offense they can not legally be denied a place to live if he owned his home or was living with his family who owned the home it is right of ownership. If he rented having a lease or rental agreement I still think he would have had a legal case unless he was breaking a law. I also suspect that folks in your nephews situation dont fight these things because they want to put the problems behind them and a public case would do little to help accompish that.
I also like you hope these inmates catch a break. I also think our laws need to be changed, folks who are convicted of drug possesion for personal use and no other crime once they have completed thier sentance (time and parole) and have been clean for a couple of years their record shoud be seaed in a way that it can not be used against them in employment. Crimes that are truly vioctimless we need to find a way to get these people back into the true mainstream of society. As someone posted earlier - you cant get a job at Jack in the Box with an arrest record for something as minor as drug possesion.
hollykb - No apology necessary. When my nephew got out of rehab, the only job he could find was at a RV resort making about 8.00 an hour. In the beginning he paid 300 a month to sleep on an older woman's living room futon at the park. Later he rented an RV for 500 a month - it was nice with a bedroom, bath, kitchenette and living room. I don't believe he had a lease and that it was a pay as you go kind of deal. He was completely happy there and he felt like it was home. He was very popular there and the woman who rented him the futon in the beginning mentioned adopting him - she just loved him. When his arrest record was distributed thru the park, that woman and her boyfriend did everything they could to help him. He was staying with me when he left the park and they came over to my house with clothes and some cash. He has come a long way since then - that was about six years ago. He left FL when his probation was complete, being tired of the cops constantly pulling him over. He is doing very well now and is probably the poster boy for anti-drugs. There isn't much I wouldn't do for him - I always stuck by him and so did his mom - and I think that made a lot of difference. I am so proud of and happy for him. I hope these three inmates have families and friends to help and support them and I wish them all the best.
Joebob
Get real. A 16 year old doing wild-and-crazy while dragging his 8 and 10 year old siblings along? You were never 16, were you?
Or maybe you're STILL 16.
We are all capable of disgusting behavior, just as we are all capable of selfless behavior. Glad these guys chose the latter that day.
Well said and sooo true.
it is a surprize they weren't shot, trying to excape. Glad that didn't happen. Great job guys.
Linda, well said!
They are probably serving time for weed possesion as the jails are overcrowded with this nonsense. Let them go either way, free hall pass..........
That's the first thing I thought when I read they were 'non-violent' offenders.
We're all in this together. Reward selfless good behavior.
Good going guys, shows that there really is good in most all of us!
Redemption. Not all inmates are bad, some have made bad choices. These inmates were trustees and they were in the right place at the right time. There are 3 boys who now have families that will not grieve because of the actions of these incarcerated men. They deserve to be considered for early release redemption certainly has its place here. Great story for a change!
I think that if I were the parent of those 3 three boys I would set up a campaign to nudge the governor to commute the rest of the prisoners sentences. Or at least cut it down. These men deserve some serious credit for what they've done.
There's been so much BAD in the news of late. Starting with the shooting in CT up to and including the shooting yesterday in Atlanta.
Nice to see a happy ending once in a while.
Janine- two incidenses in Alanta, and one in Texas .
The governor doesn't have any say if it is a federal crime in a federal penitentiary. Also, the feds typically don't let people out for good behavior. The feds don't tolerate nearly as much BS as the states do. Probably because their budget is for all intents and purposes "limitless".
I would guess that it would be up to the BOP or the DOJ to determine if these people get any time off, assuming this is a federal prison. But I wouldn't count on it.
If it is a state crime then the governor could pardon or commute the sentence if he chooses.
The river they were boating on is running full blast, due to the amount of rain we have had. And yes, thank goodness those inmates were able to save them. That water is cold, very cold.
But having said that, what in the hell were the parents thinking when the kids had no life jackets? That is a problem that should be addressed.
Larch Mt. correctional center inmates do a lot of good work on/in the parks, rebuilding trails, etc. Very few ever even think of escaping, however some of the really low informed have, and ended up at a different place. And yes, all of us are one step away from being an inmate. Anymore, our justice system is competely corrupt all across the US.
But thank goodness no one died. And those inmates deserve praise for what they did.
The inmates that helped the young boys deserve to be acknowledged for their bravery. I would recommend some time off their sentance or at least some written acknowledgement from the Warden of the prison they are in. Well done boys!
I have kayaked Salmon Creek for the past several years, and more than most anybody in this county. I live a mile from it and am quite familiar with the changes that creek makes every year. In fact, the creek changes daily with water levels. After several years of kayaking Salmon Creek, and yes, kayaking it after torrential rains for the fun of the fast water flows, I am very cautious due to a near death experience from an uprooted tree laying across the creek during a heavy flow. In fact, it was very close to where these kids went over, just down stream from the softball fields. I would NEVER go in that creek without a life jacket. Heck, I had one on when I almost died. Not even that helped me when I was pinned against that tree, upside down in that raging water with no way to right myself. I can't emphasize how lucky these kids are. These guys may not think they're heroes, but they are exactly that.
Sally, I'm not so paranoid to believe I'm 1 step away from prison. While it's true no system is perfect, ours works more often than it doesn't.
Prison is easier to STAY out of than it is to get out of.
Yahoo! reported the boys were wearing life jackets.
To assume the parents don't care about their children is wrong. Great parents lose their kids everyday in accidents because all kids, at some point, no matter how obedient, no matter how much they are watched, will inevitably do something behind their parents back that is stupid and dangerous. It`s a universal truth.
I've been in cold water going 25+ mph and it's really is scary. I did it cuz I was young and stupid (and impared, enough said) These guys did it because it was the right thing to do. I don't know why these guys were in prison, but I think they need to be let out, now!
rebus cannebus--while I agree that these guys should maybe get a couple of extra days off for good behavior, I don NOT think they should be let out of jail for what I think MOST people in the same situation would also have done.
Some years ago, there was a case of a mother and young son who were on a camping trip in the SW United States, and they were in a wreck, the mom was killed, and the boy left alone. An illegal immigrant found him and waited with him until rescuers found them, knowing he would probably be sent back to Mexico.
Many argued he should be given a visa, or even citizenship, but I did NOT agree--because I (seemingly alone!) thought that MOST (non drug associated) illegals would have done the same thing--which was the DECENT thing to do (and aren't most "pro-illegal" folks all always claiming that illegals are decent hard working humans?) and therefore, special enough to have earned him a good meal and a ride to the border, and thanks by the boys family and the authorities.
And that is all.
Unfortunately, MOmaid, if you read the news at all you'll see that the "most people" group you keep referencing seems to be dwindling.
MOmaid
gotta admit at first I am an extreen anti Illegal person.
But.
with the story you just mentioned I would have been ok with not only the hot meal but getting him fixed up to enter the country the correct way. not a free pass but the opportunity to maybe bypass a little of the standing in line time and enough help to do what needs to be done to earn citizen ship.
I think most people that go through that line would agree that he earned a little help with that and wouldn't fuss too much little him hop a bit ahead in line as what he did helps all of them. shame you didn't finish the story though with what happened to him.
Prisoners yesterday.. Hero's today..
Drugs,could not pay them high price (40%) interest charge on fines and they got sent to jail.
Just like deters jail for not paying up.
May have got one of them court app. lawyers,,BIG MISTAKE!
All these jobs out there,FEMA camp coming soon to you.
If the Governor of that state has the power to 'pardon' these men...he should do it. They broke the law....but redeemed themselves by this simple act of risking their lives to save children.
Agreed.. Their debt to society has been paid (if their not violent criminals, that is)..
wow, finally a story in the news with a happy ending. thank you
Great story. Thanks, I really needed that this week.
I would buy a T-shirt with their faces on it. This was a super brave and selfless thing to do. Way to go, guys. Governor, if you don't want to give them a full pardon, at least commute the sentence, let them out.
If I were the parents of those boys, I'd do my damnest to make sure that those inmates had jobs when they are released.
Great story. It's nice to read a story that isn't about a trajedy of some kind. Kudos to the inmates that rescued the kids.
Thank you to the rescuers and thank you to all who helped get this story here.
Anyone jumping in a 25 mph cold water creek, especially with the amount of rain we have had here, is in no doubt a hero. Hats off to these two rescuers, especially Pettis, who moved fast and selflessly. I hope some good person helps them get a job when they are released. I also hope our new governor pardons them tomorrow morning.
I was thinking that too. They're in a facility for non-violent offenders and have a relatively short sentence. From what I understand, one of the hardest things to do upon release is locate a decent job. Hopefully the people helping them find one will be able to point to this incident and assist them in finding something worthwhile - they certainly deserve it after this!
MonkeyMo - I hope so to, but if an employer does a computerized background chsek this info will not show up and HR types just pass on by those who fail the check. These guys upon release need to realize they need to present their history including this heroic part of thier history to a prospective employer otherwise they are going to struggle. I am pretty sure the only thing that would eliminate this problem is a full pardon from the Governor and that would also need to take into account what they were in for - non-violent does not mean non-economical.
We'll see if their bravery gives them better treatment by the community once they're out. You know, the whole "let's shred the prisoner's job application" and "no, we're not hiring"...
Cudos!! These guys have something to be very proud of. Whatever they've done, hopefully this will give them they type of positive boost in their lives to help give them motivation to continue to contribute to society. It has taken my son awhile to find himself, but he is getting a degree in radiology. It's not too late to find a way.
Just about all of us have the potential to do something great, if you catch us at the right moment and fate steps in.Just like we have all messed up at some point in our life. Doing something foolish, if caught at the right moment. But fate didn't step in, it wasn't our time.
You know that saying,"There but for the grace of God, go I." is so true. Humbling us, causing us to be so less judgmental, hopefully. For those who think otherwise, just wait, your turn will come.
Windancersong - I couldn't have said it better. Thanks.
Thanks guys, for the Brave effort that you have shown, or this story could have been a tragedy instead!
Tip of the hat to you Mr. Pettis, Mr. Bohn, and Mr. Fowler ...and for showing the rest of us what being human is all about...
And for another perspective, the NRA's CEO today pointed out that if those three young boys had been packin' heat they could have shot their way out of trouble and not needed the assistance of the hero prisoners.
Happiness is a warm gun.
;-)
NevadaJ,
Happiness is people like you going somewhere else to agitate people.
I bet your tight with Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.
If you are in Nevada I would assume you are another Goddamned californicator.
They are good brave men who deserve a second chance. Everyone can make a mistake.
When they serve there sentence they will have the second chance.
Teach your children to swimm!!!
You mean inmates are not red and scaly with a bifurcated tail and carrying a hay fork?
How about nurturing their good sides? give them incentives for reduced time and send them back to a productive life instead of costing everyone and wasting everybody's time. Plus we are going to need room for illegal gun owners.
I really this everyone shound watch this video and if you don't have time for all of it just watch the last four minunts of it then maybe a few of you guys will really know what is going on, Oh but don't take my word for it the video speaks for it's self i hope everyone has a great day and the truth is power! (youtube.com/watch?v=OhJ7Vf7L2Aw)
"give them incentives for reduced time and send them back to a productive life"
Who says they were productive to begin with? Someone in jail is there as a result of something they did, that does not make them monsters at all but it is the consequence of their actions. They may have saved a life and that is something to do be proud of for the rest of their lives, but they still have to deal with the consequences of whatever put them in front of a judge.