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WXIA / NBC via Reuters
A 14-year-old pupil and a teacher were shot Thursday, Jan. 31, at Price Middle School in Atlanta. Another student at the school was arrested.
The case of a Virginia second-grader caught with a gun on his school bus this week may be shocking but it's by no means uncommon.
Across the country, children are being suspended or arrested for having weapons on campus or buses on a daily basis.
Police in Henrico, Va., were waiting at school for the little boy Monday morning after he allegedly threatened another pupil on their ride to Ratcliffe Elementary School. They found a handgun in his backpack, NBC station WWBT of Richmond, Va. reported.
The incident made national headlines Monday, as did a similar incident when a loaded gun was found in a pupil's book bag last month at P.S. 215 in Queens, N.Y.
However, these incidents aren't as isolated as they may appear. An NBC News survey of crime dockets and news reports across all 50 states reveals that, since Jan. 1, there have been at least 48 incidents in which guns have been discovered on students, in their bags or in their lockers.
There were at least five last Thursday alone: in Atlanta; Augusta, Kan.; Chicago; Raleigh, N.C.; and Winston-Salem, N.C.
There have been 23 class days since some districts resumed school Jan. 2 — not including Jan. 21, the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday. That works out to more than two gun reports a day this school year. (The survey excluded incidents in which pupils were caught with toy guns; all of the weapons were handguns, rifles, BB guns or air rifles.)
And those are just the cases that have been made public: Juveniles' police records are generally protected, so an untold number of other such incidents are likely to have occurred.
While it's impossible to determine whether such potentially deadly show-and-tells are happening more frequently, the public data do indicate just how hard it is to clamp down on guns on campus since the issue became a national concern in December in the wake of the fatal shootings of 20 pupils at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.
Most of the time, the weapons are brought along for protection or as items of curiosity, with the pupil more interested in showing off than in shooting. And usually, they're intercepted before anyone can get hurt, with the student's being suspended or charged for a weapons violation, depending on his or her age. Often, a parent or guardian is charged with failing to secure the weapon.
But when they're not intercepted, tragedy is often the result.
Last week, a 14-year-old boy was shot and wounded by a student at Price Middle School in Atlanta, police said.
"Gun violence in and around our schools is simply unconscionable and must end," Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed said. "Too many young people are being harmed and too many families are suffering from unimaginable and unnecessary grief."
And on Jan. 10, a student was wounded by a classmate who shot him at Taft Union High School in Taft, Calif., police said The boy targeted a second classmate but missed, authorities said.
While many lawmakers have introduced legislation that would put armed police or security guards in schools, that may not be the answer, according to a state task force reviewing campus safety in Virginia.
The task force last week stressed the need to fund anti-bullying programs and school resource officers, but it stopped short of calling for more officers in schools.
"If we were to put 1,000 new police officers in our schools, those police officers would have to come from somewhere, and we might inadvertently make things less safe in our communities," Dewey G. Cornell, a law professor at the University of Virginia who's a member of the task force, told WWBT.
The boy who opened fire last week in California was one of those who carried a weapon because he said he had been bullied, Kern County Sheriff Donny Youngblood said.
But that's not a good enough excuse, parents say.
"That just doesn't make sense," said Jeremy Massey, the parent of a student at Daly Elementary School in Inskter, Mich., near Detroit, where a third-grader was found to have taken a loaded gun to class two days in a row last month. The boy told police he carried the gun for his own protection.
"If you are 10 years old, the only protection you need is to go tell an adult," Massey told NBC station WDIV of Detroit.
Related:
Full list of student gun incidents this year
Obama on guns: 'We're not going to wait until the next Newtown'
Guns already allowed in schools with little restriction in many states
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Wisconsin Dad- Who is the president? Oh, thats right he is a liberal and not even addressing the job issue. You blame the republican, go figure! The presidents policies and what he is doing to this country is the problem with no jobs dumb ass!
come on! just a few more guns. not quite enough yet. a few more. perhaps when they start tumbling out like beer cans from a drunks car, but we're not there yet. just a few more...
maridanne
That's what I keep telling my wife. I have my eye on several new ones but she says that 40 guns is enough. If I buy any more, I'm going to need another new safe too.
Mom and Dad need to raise children not a school system or goverment . Why not ask parents to check backpacks ? Tell the children about weapons . They are not like video games.
How about not having weapons in a house with children. Oh sorry does that violate your right to be an @!$%#?
gman,
But how will they learn to use them safely if we do not have them in the homes??
Your fear is palpable.
Get an education, get a job. Do not have kids.
I have all three and my kids are well adjusted and not angry at the world.Guns have a way of finding trouble and if you can't see that I'd say you need an education on how to behave like a responsible adult. You sound like the one that's afraid.
Guns find trouble? What? Your cars must be well adjusted, I suppose. Same for your stairs and ladders. These items do not seek trouble? Ever? I think that you are fooling yourself.
No, your kids need to be removed from your household. You are not capable of having them.
No guns for you.
I grew up going to some pretty tough schools in the 60's and 70's and I don't ever remember anybody bringing a gun to school. And if I got bullied,I handled it the old fashioned way,with my fists. And guns are bad because people regardless of race or class will screw up and leave them lying around.
gman,
What? See, you ARE so very afraid. People like you are the problem.
Yeah, I'm afraid of guns and people who have them. Quit playing army and learn to fight like a man.
gman-2085907
Quit playing army and learn to fight like a man.
Tell my 57 year old wife that. She carries a sweet little Stainless Steel .44 Special.
So your're married to a man?
gman,
What? Threats? From such a fearless liberal such as yourself?
Fight like a man? Sure. I am old. Come and see me. We can talk. I can correct you.
I didn't threaten you! Your paranoia is showing. And you should look up the word liberal before using it like an insult. You are just another ignorant redneck. I just insulted you in case you weren't sure. Go away you are boring and hopeless. Now go take out your anger on someone with your gun!
gman,
Running away so soon? Wow, bark at you and you take off.
The meaning of words change with their use. Take the word "gay" for example. Its meaning today as it is used is a lot different than it used to be.
Therefore, "liberal" has also changed. Today, liberal means one who wants to force their desires on others, who lacks self respect and discipline, has no morals or responsibility, and, in a word, is a parasite.
So, what is a redneck? Tell us all. Show us your NEA, public school "edukashun".
I have never shot at anyone outside military operations.
See? Your unreasoning fear owns you.
I have to go to work now and use my fine public education to earn my living,as I always have.And as a liberal,I might even help someone in need.Heck,I even respect your military service. My dad fought in WW2 and he was a liberal. And did I mention that I'm an atheist? That is no doubt your greatest fear.And redneck still means the same thing it always has. And whats your problem with the NEA? Are you afraid of art too? Bye now.
gman,
So, what is a redneck? You do not know but you use the term?
You do know that NEA also stands for the teachers' union known as the National Education Association, right? Since we were mentioning education, why would you think that it stood for National Endowment for the Arts? See? You were never taught how to conduct deductive reasoning?
My problem with the NEA as discussed above? Their inclination to dumb things down to the lowest level and to not allow competition because someone may get their feelings hurt. You are proof of their inadequacy.
Yes, liberal and an atheist; that is not a surprise. No morals or values except what you "feel" or just like.
Standing in a welfare line is not a job although I am sure it seems like hard work to you.
As stated before I work a real job. I have been doing it for 35 years. And only someone with no morals thinks of violence as a first option. Even jesus christ knew that. Take your stereotypes of people and go to your bunker and hide from all the people not like you.Geez can I go now?
Uh oh. You did not leave as you said?
I said violence was the first option? Where? Your paranoia is showing.
Your responses show that, in your case, the stereotypes I have are "right on target".
You still have not given the answer as to what is a redneck.
Hide? I am right here. We could even visit together sometime if you would like. We could talk. I invite you. Now there, truly civil discourse from me.
Friends?
Redneck is a derogatory slang term used in reference to poor, uneducated white farmers, especially from the southern United States.[1][2] It is similar in meaning to cracker (especially regarding Georgia and Florida), hillbilly (especially regarding Appalachia and the Ozarks),[3] and white trash (but without the last term's suggestions of immorality).[4][5][6]
Yes we can be friends. Just leave the guns locked up. I really have to go now.
kids blasting each other in class or on the bus is only a shot away,looks like we might have to send armed guards home with them huh? madness.
joe,
Quick! Run home and hide!
are you always this ignorant or did you plan it special for today?
joe,
Bud, What you said was stupid. You needed to be called on it.
Now, calm down and eat your Wheaties.
August 14, 2001: Auto accidents are the leading cause of death among American teenagers. According to the Center For Disease Control 5,060 young people ages 15-19 lost their lives in 1998 as a result of a motor vehicle related injury and many of these involved alcohol.
Sept. 20, 2012: Suicide has overtaken car crashes as the leading cause of injury-related deaths in the U.S. While public health efforts have curbed the number of car fatalities by 25% over the last decade, a new study shows suicide deaths rose by 15% during the same period.
The rate of death from firearms in the United States is eight times higher than that in its economic counterparts in other parts of the world.
The overall firearm-related death rate among U.S. children younger than 15 years of age is nearly 12 times higher than among children in 25 other industrialized countries combined.
The United States has the highest rate of youth homicides and suicides among the 26 wealthiest nations.
Firearms Death Rate per 100,000 by state
Rank State Amount
1 District of Columbia: 31.2
2 Alaska: 20
3 Louisiana: 19.5
4 Wyoming: 18.8
5 Arizona: 18
6 Nevada: 17.3
6 Mississippi: 17.3
8 New Mexico: 16.6
9 Arkansas: 16.3
10 Alabama: 16.2
11 Tennessee: 15.4
12 West Virginia: 14.7
13 Montana: 14.5
14 South Carolina: 13.8
15 North Carolina: 13.6
16 Georgia: 13.4
17 Kentucky: 13.1
17 Oklahoma: 13.1
19 Missouri: 12.3
19 Idaho: 12.3
21 Indiana: 11.7
22 Colorado: 11.5
22 Maryland: 11.5
24 Florida: 11.1
24 Virginia: 11.1
26 Texas: 11
27 Michigan: 10.9
28 Oregon: 10.5
29 Pennsylvania: 9.9
30 California: 9.8
31 Illinois: 9.7 hmmmm, with all the posts about how gun control in Chicago isn't working, yet Illinois ranks 31 in the nation, not first
31 Kansas: 9.7
31 Utah: 9.7
34 Vermont: 9.6
35 Ohio: 9.3
35 Washington: 9.3
37 Delaware: 9.1
37 North Dakota: 9.1
39 Wisconsin: 8.1
39 Nebraska: 8.1
41 South Dakota: 7.9
42 Iowa: 6.7
43 Maine: 6.5
44 Minnesota: 6
45 New Hampshire: 5.8
46 Rhode Island: 5.1
46 New York: 5.1
48 New Jersey: 4.9
49 Connecticut: 4.3
50 Massachusetts: 3.1
51 Hawaii: 2.8
Every day in the United States there are an average of 81 people killed by guns and more than 176 non-fatal gun related injuries.
Shall I say "Houston, we have a problem".
Yesterday a 15 year old, just as first period was beginning, went to the boys restroom and shot himself. He died instantly. This occurred within no more than a 10 minute drive from my home, in a rural area.
Let us all stop acting like adults and BE ADULTS. This is simply ridiculous and unacceptable.
So, what to do?
Yeah, and how may killed by heart disease?
NC, I believe you actually read the stats I provided. Thank You.
What to do? Well, if you use the stats, you see that many, most of the other industrialized countries ban guns, any gun, period. The countries that do not have a complete ban on citizens owning guns, they at least do not allow them to be carried around in public and they require those guns to be registered.
And IMHO, they value life more than they do guns.
We American citizens feed off fear. We American citizens are cowards, so much so that not one single adult in the apartment in NYC where just a few days ago a 17 year old dragged a 9 year old out of his apartment, down a hall, up 3 flights of stairs to the roof, across the roof and then threw the 9 year old off the roof (a 5 story building, which for those who don't know, it's actually 6 stories - there's always an extra floor when referring to a roof). And neighbors who spoke to police and media after spoke of how they "heard" the child screaming for help or how they actually saw this child being dragged. Yet not 1, not a single adult stepped up to intervene. Even though they all knew both and the 17 year old wasn't packing any weapon. In this case, this was entirely preventable if any adult at all would have stepped out and intervened.
But why was it allowed to happen? Like I said, we have become a nation of cowardice. How can we expect to progress as all those other industrialized countries when we seem to adore our guns more than children and are too cowardice to actually stand up and be a decent citizen.
Do I believe we should just ban all guns? I'd like to think we could get to that place, someday. But for now, no. But I do believe in repeating background checks, including mental health checks and I believe all guns should be registered. Without registering them, we are heavily impeding the efforts of our police forces to their jobs when a gun is involved in a crime. We have many citizens who pass our current background check and then they provide the gun(s) to those who would not pass a background check. If the police were able to actually track the guns, legitimate gun owners, law abiding citizens have no worries... but those who get guns by proxy of someone else because the someone else will pass the background, well police would be able to track back to the buyer and hopefully those proxy buyers will be identified and punished just like the criminal who used the gun that they bought for them.
I'm open to ideas. I'll consider any viable, reasonable solution. My suggestion is to follow suit with the other 30 something industrialized countries where they are so so so much more ahead on this dilemma we have currently in the U.S.
@GeanieTilley
Those stats are old and flawed:
Illinois (read Chicago) #2
Michigan (read Detroit) #1
DC was actually compiled before gun ban was shot down (pun intended) by courts. It is now lower!
Geanie Tilley -
Death rates per 100,000 (or whatever) show little correlation by themselves. Look at raw deaths per state & your list will change. In 2010, Illinois had 706 murders whereas Alaska had 31. AK is #2 on your list, IL is #31. Alaska has a 60% or better firearms ownership rate, IL is around 20%. DC had 132 murders with less than 4% gun ownership. In virtually all states, the metropolitan reporting area had the highest numbers by far (see FBI Unified Crime Report 2010, Table 5).
If populations were more homogenous, you could use rates for a somewhat valid comparison. There are way too many variables (race, social, economic) to do it.
Kids have felt the need to protect themselves at schools at all times and in all countries and it often ends with violent incidents. But only in the US is there a problem of almost universal acccess to guns, which means that these incidents end up by being fatal. Yes, address the environment that makes kids fearful but also try to correct the environment where fearful kids can easily lay their hands on guns
Agreed, but there is not "almost universal access to guns".
Tone down the hysteria.
Coming from Europe, where this kind of thing is unthinkable, it appears almost universal.
Johnny,
Ah...perception. While true for you, it is not necessarily reality.
No murders in Europe? Wow. Going back soon? Or are you staying here?
Gun homicides in most European countries are a tiny fraction of ours. The only difference is that they have adequate gun safety regulations, and we don't.
How about the other homicides?
How about crimes in general? If you check, you will see that they went up significantly as soon as the gun bans began.
Please cite your source for your assertion that total homicides and total crime rates rise with gun control regulations, keeping in mind that the objective is to reduce death and injury, and has nothing to do with non-violent crime.
Total numbers for homicides and crime in general do not rise in countries that initiate gun regulations.
That's another NRA myth.
easily done tim, as well as some other facts about gun control.
www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp
theacru.org/acru/harvard_study_gun_control_is_counterproduct
www.infowars.com/gun-control-laws-will-not-prevent-crime/
factcheck.org/2012/12/gun-rhetoric-vs-gun-facts/ -
www.cato.org/publications/commentary/gun-control-myths-reali
need more?
Yes, actually. Something objective with actual data would be nice.
Justfacts is a right-wing ideology site - no credibility
The ACRU article references a Harvard Law school study that has been debunked by the Harvard School of Public Health with actual data.
The Infowars site is just Alex Jones - again, no credibility.
The Factcheck reference simply quotes Gohmert, as questionable, and call into question whether right-to-carry laws reduce crime rates as unsupported by the data.
The Cato article is an opinion piece - zero factual references.
According to an article in the Telegraph last July, quoting the Office of National Statistics, the homicide rate in the U.K. is currently at a 30 year low.
Tim, YOU have not cited even ONE link to your ridiculous posts. Please, do so...
Here it is, several hours later, and yet, you've still not replied with my requested information/links (it didn't take you very long to try and denigrate the FOUR links I posted). Nor, Didn't think you would...You never even bothered to try and refute anything in my posts either, without interjecting YOUR opinion, but no 'facts' to back them up with.
Opinions, they're just like @$$holes, everybody has one...
But I did cite the article in the Telegraph referencing the Office of National Statistics, which you are welcome to look up.
It is not several hours duration between your two posts at 9:07pm and 10:30pm.
You can find supporting data for my comments about Gun homicides in Europe compared to the U.S. from the UNODC, the WHO. www.unodc.org. You can look at their website or read a summary in an article in the Guardian last July 22:
www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownership-world-list
My comment on crime rates vs. gun control derives from "Private Guns, Public Health", David Hemenway Ph. D., University of Michigan Press, 2006, which you fan find on Amazon.com
And, ironically, one of your links (Factcheck.org) supports my statement on crime vs. guns by referencing and quoting real studies on the subject -
...and...
These are all based on statistical studies performed by people who do not have a stake in the outcome, unlike Alex Jones and the NRA - not just opinions.
I don't get these "law-abiding citizens" not wanting laws. Even LaPierre called for universal background checks in 1999 - back when national databases were difficult to set up and manage. Nowadays, managing millions of records across a wide-aren network is a piece of cake.
There really is a deep, deep paranoia in this country. I'll admit, as a conspiracy buff, I have prescribed to it. But everybody needs to calm down - chill - the government's not going to rocket-bomb you. The zombie apocalpyse is not going to happen. If the financial world collapses, the US will be one of the last to drop into the abyss of complete lawlessness. If it gets that bad, we're all screwed and I don't care what kind of prepper fantasies you have, you're not going to be able to shoot your way out of it. Our only chance will be banding together - and everybody armed to the teeth shooting at each other will get us nowhere.
Seriously......relax. Your paranoia about a possible dystopic future is creating an authentic dystopic present.
Paranoia? NO, just not being an idiot like you. You godless fools think government is "god" and can do no wrong because in essence you think you are "god". Anyone that disagrees with you needs to have a DRONE STRIKE done on them.
The sheer stupidity of your post is proven by even this very day the government stating that a drone strike on an US citizen is valid if the government decides to do so. And they can call anyone a terrorist for disagreeing with them on anything.
Wake up moron.
Where the hell do you think all this paranoia is coming from? THE MEDIA! THAT'S WHERE. And even your buying into it.
I suppose the founding fathers were "paranoid". They KNEW what governments do and that is dominate and control people with any means possible, and having CONSTITUTIONAL POWERS and RIGHTS to DEFEND the US citizens from government dictatorship is why the Second Amendment was established, and it was not about hunting or skeet shooting, but rather about protection from government control and evil people that commit crimes.
Considering the heavy gang presence in inner city schools (or schools where Blacks are 10% of the student population), packing a gun is a reasonable safety measure. Very few students shoot each other so it's really not much of an issue. I go to my local high school and see the Blacks wandering around the campus in Gang colors. We've had football games cancelled because of Black gang violence. The nearest thing we have to a White gang is the Boy Scouts and they rarely cause trouble. So guns in school are a reasonable student response to administrations that won't potect the students because they are afraid of being called racist.
Uh.....sarcasm? I'm assuming so. I can't see that post lasting long.
No Joe. He is truthful and correct.
Don't forget the KKK,Aryan nation,Hells Angels and assorted other gangs. And they are white you know.
gman-2085907
We are talking about schools you Goof. Don't forget the KKK,Aryan nation,Hells Angels and assorted other gangs. What the KKK & Hell's Angels have a High School Club? Do they ride dirt bikes? The KKK club wears their Hoods to class?
Deerhunter,
gman is hysterical about a lot of things. Unreasoning fear is his shtick.
The correct term is unreasonable. Sorry I couldn't help using my public education.
gman,
Incorrect. Unreasoning is the correct term. Your public education let you down again. I used it as an adjective. Know what that is? No?
un·rea·son·ing
[uhn-ree-zuh-ning]
adjective
not reasoning or exercising reason; reasonless; thoughtless; irrational: an unreasoning fanatic.
Whose that baby's daddy?
That would be a good question. Also what size is his anus, 12D or 13EEE because I want to be wearing the right boot.
Anti-gun media campaign demonizing guns but leaving out the increasingly problematic and dangerous bullying factor in schools leaving many children at the mercy of other cruel young ganstas. It's easier to focus on the guns than the social factor involved, it's the liberal way.
The "liberal way." You pu$$y. Did you never get "bullied" in school? You either fight your way out or take your a$$-kicking. Bullying has always been there. Here's what wasn't there before: Paranoid gun nuts thinking the world is on the edge of apocalypse and there's an armed criminal around every corner ready to shoot you - and the only way to protect yourself is to arm yourself. That's what wasn't there before.
In the old days, if you took a gun to school, the "bullies" would take the gun away from you and kick your a$$ for being such a pu$$y.
Agreed. Bullies use words and fists.
Joe, where did you see that I advocated kids should have guns in school? Your reading skills are as impotent as your punk a$$ remarks. Another limp wristed keyboard dingleberry and anti-gun liberal pansy. Go plant some chives.
In the old days, if you took a gun to school, the "bullies" would take the gun away from you and kick your a$$ for being such a pu$$y.
Times have changed. Now days the Bullies get shot. Best thing is that people need to try & get along. Just because one kid is bigger or stronger doesn't mean the weaker kid is going to put up with getting his ass kicked. Sooner or later, the kids getting Bullied are going to try & get even.
I love the way the media doesn't even mention how they are knowing accomplices in this ordeal and the other gun incidents. Always supporting the "We don't know" and "We don't understand" theories and all the while making "Rock Stars" out of the loser, scumbag shooters in these incidents.
I say the liberal media knows exactly what it is doing and has found a way to push the liberal lefts gun control agenda and they don't care if it kills half the people on the planet getting it done. Along with Feinstein and Pelosi, I bet the liberal media rubs their hands together in evil bliss every time they hear a shooting has occurred knowing that their little plan is working.
The country is polarized about gun control or ownership and that won't change and thank God I support the 1st & 2nd amendments. So let the evil left wing media stir up as much trouble as they can with the 1st amendment and we will filter out all these gun incidents and recognize the potential would be killers and remove them from society. As far as gun control is concerned, the 2nd amendment will stand strong in any court and if it doesn't, I would find a basement and stay there because it's going to get loud.
Remember this. If we the people of the USA can not handle the right to bear arms, then we can not handle democracy.
Clearly, the solution to this problem is to arm the other kids with handguns. The only way to stop a middle-schooler with a handgun is a pre-schooler with a handgun.
LOL. Very funny.
Crabbie,
If anything, you are a perfect example of why there needs to be a test to be able to vote...or have children.
Calm your hysteria.
Crabbie are you sure? pre-schoolers hands a very small for a pistol grip. How about a mini hand grenade or poison gas grenades?
See how silly that sounds when you go way over the top.
...but not to own a gun.. Oh, no, that would be a violation of 2nd Amendment rights. You have to have a brain to vote or have kids, but not to own a gun.
tim,
Who said that? The NRA is the only nationwide organization that promotes and teaches gun safety.
Who teaches ignorant folks about their rights and responsibilities as citizens? Public schools? LOL
Yes, actually they do exactly that.
The answer is simple .... ban people...then those nasty guns will not have a human being to use to do their evil.
leave my damn guns alone and start 20 year manditory sentinces for anyone in possession of a firearm during a crime, and life in prison for straw purchasers or gun runners. Death sentince for anyone using a firearm in a crime with execution of sentence 30 days after conviction.
Time to start getting rid of criminals not my guns
Why is the lack of intelligence concentrated in the southern states?
So you are saying you are from the south JCC. I understand now.
@JCC@FL I guess thats why they placed NASA down south because we're stupid.
Yeah, it certainly doesn't have anything to do with the weather....or the fact that LBJ was president when the Houston center was built. Historical note: the Houston Space Center was originally proposed to be in Cambridge, MA before JFK was shot. You know, down the street from Harvard, MIT, B.U. B.C. and a hundred other colleges. But LBJ changed that when he took over, and put it in Houston instead.
Very few southerners were part of NASA in the early days. There is no doubt, the south has more morons than than the northern states.
tim,
Yeah, it could not have been because the geographic location of Houston was more conducive to space launch and control than farther north.
You really do need to be educated before you spew.
JCC,
So, you are in Florida?
Really? When was the last time they launched anything into space from Houston? And, how many world class universities are within a hundred miles of there?
Mind your manners.
Thats why I carry a gun . I was walking my 1 yr old in a stroller and a 6 yr old told to get off his side of the street and told me , he was gonna blow me away with his 9mm
It's good to see that they at least excluded toy guns. But air guns? I'd be more concerned about knives and other weapons than air guns. Sounds to me like a way to padd the number of indicents.
Lame, lame, lame. That excuse ended with Columbine.
Bullies are gone?
This is why I carry a gun , I was walking my 1yr old in a stroller and a 6yrs old punk told me to get off his side of the street or he was gonna get his 9mm and blow us away.
Control the parents , Boycott the ant-iChrist (the Media) people worship and believe everything they hear and read
please tell me... was the 6 year old carrying the 9mm with him?
If he was, you should have simply used your cell phone and called 911.
If he was not, perhaps you should have asked where he lived and let his parents know what he said. Otherwise, you can't blame it on the parents if you run scared and don't do anything.
It sounds to me like you are just one scared person... a grown man scared by a 6 year old... I'm not even sure a 6 year old can even fire a 9mm... SIGH
As a gun owning Republican, if a kid takes their parents gun to school, arrest the student and parent....
But there will be no gun bans, the Liberal anti gun agenda will cost the Democrats the Senate in 2014.
You are 100% correct However, it may cost the Democrates sooner than midterm! With the story that just broke regarding the use of drones and killing American citizens without due process, there has been some impeachment talk on the hill!!
Lets take away the second amendment rights from all, then lets take away 1st amendment rights for all, then? The uther did not tell you that 5 of these incidnets were pictures only, and one was a kid making a gun sign with his had. Considering there are 83 million students time the number of days spent in school, that number becomes small. Ten time that amount are removed for bring knives to school.. Education is the key, this is the first generation where guns are totaly bad things. We hve 88,000,000 gun owners in America taking away the right to own a gun is like keeping the whole school after school because 1/10th of 1 % is talking.
Joe the pimp doesn't run background checks ,get your guns where most criminal get their guns and quit worrying about the media nonsence and liberal gov't assholism....
Again we need to enforce the laws on the books. In the other Washington an elementary student brought a .45 colt to school in his back pack and dropped the back pack causing the weapon to discharge seriously wounding a classmate. The parents have been charged for not properly securing firearms. I think the time has come where we need metal detectors at all school entrances.
We need to change juvenile laws to. In Washington a juvenile can get caught in possession of a gun 5 times before doing time. The only time they are proscecuted before is if they use the gun in a crime. Our juvenile justice laws need a serious overhaul. They are still in the 1950's gauged kids breaking windows and such.
The inner city schools here in the Kansas City area (Missouri and Kansas) have had them for years. They do make a difference.
How about this for a gun safety regulation: why can't guns be required to be designed not to discharge when they're dropped or jarred accidentally?
tim,
The vast majority are made that way nowadays. Guns falling and discharging are rare.
How do you know that? Where did you find the statistics to back that up, because the CDC says there were 606 deaths alone from accidental firearms discharging in 2010, and according the IANSA, for every accidental gun fatality there are 10 gun injuries serious enough to require hospital care.
Understanding that not all accidental discharges result from a dropped or jarred weapon, I would still say that's far from rare.
If we can design a child proof lid for medications, why not a child-proof gun?
tim,
Since 1911 when the Colt 1911 .45 was made, the understanding of mechanical accidental discharges was very clear with gun manufacturing companies. Like cars, guns have kept up with the times and improvements have been made as technologies increased and consumer awareness evolved.
Accidental discharge from a gun doesn't mean that it was dropped, it only means that it was fired when the handler did not want to fire the weapon. If you are willing to investigate further you will find that 1.) The handler was not the one injured in most cases. 2.) The first response from the handler was "it wasn't loaded!" 3.) That very few if any deaths were caused by a weapon falling to the floor or being jarred and discharging. If any cases of accidental discharge by dropping or jarring the gun are claimed, I'll bet that the handler of the weapon accidentally or purposefully shot the other person and is blaming it on accidental discharge.
Little timmy, I know more about guns than you know about playing with yourself and thats quite a bit. So don't skim over some leftist gun data and come spew it out like it was fact. Oh, and by the way, I don't expect you to hump my leg over this like you've been humping everyone else's.
Remember this. If we the people can not handle the right to bear arms, we can't handle democracy.
Unfortunately, thanks to lobbying by the NRA, the government is forbidden from collecting detailed data about firearms injuries, so such an investigation is nearly impossible. Maybe that's why you have provided no data to support your position whatsoever. It's a bit surprising that for someone who claims to know so much about guns you don't seem to really know anything at all about how often people are injured or even killed by accident. Go figure. For example, how much have the "improvements" you claim have decreased accidental injuries, exactly?
How eloquently put. It's impressive how much vulgarity can be compressed into so few words, but I'm sure you imagine that somehow reinforces your credibility. If only you were talking to another adolescent, but unfortunately you are not. The gun data I provided is not 'leftist', it's from the CDC, and other authentic and objective sources. Where as yours....but you haven't, so never mind. The rest of your comment is simply too juvenile to be worthy of any response at all.
Grow up, kid.
I have met some very brilliant idiots. Education does NOT mean you're smart and being smart doesn't have anything to do with common sense. You are espousing our "stupidity" for owning guns without considering that we just might enjoy the shooting sport. I know I won't be able to sway you to change, but you are being quite naive assuming your angry taunts and assertions will sway us.
The lib agenda says to spew forth your words and call them fact because everyone will believe a lib is always right and so smart that anyone with a different view is automatically wrong. Every one's view is exactly that, their view. Why is it the lib demands EVERYONE live by their rules? I never thought that calling someone a name in anger is a very smart person...am I wrong assuming that of you? Maybe....maybe not, but I won't stoop to your level.
Liberals are actually saying that ytheir beliefs, regardless of what they are, should be mankind's mantra? You could not be more wrong, libby.
Jarhead6981
Thank You, I have seen many post where these Lefturds are calling Republicans uneducated idiots. There is a big difference in being uneducated & stupid. I have worked with many highly educated stupid people. I will take common sense over book education any day of the week. There is only so much in everyday life that a formal eduction can be a benefit. Common sense is needed every hour of every day. My Father only went through the sixth grade but was one of the most intelligent people I have ever known.
... that does not mean one person cannot be both.
tim,
Indeed. Same for the reverse.
You run this stuff on TV 24/7. You are scaring the kids and most of the adults.