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A group of Miami-Dade police officers was disciplined following a 2010 internal affairs investigation, police documents showed.
Five police officers and one sergeant with the Kendall squad were allegedly caught on camera ignoring emergency dispatch calls.
The video, obtained by NBC 6 South Florida, shows incidents like one on Oct. 5, 2010 where Officer Dario Socarras apparently ignored a residential burglary call and chose to meet a woman at the Dadeland Mall parking lot.
The video shows the officer hugging and kissing the woman in what the police investigation calls a public display of affection.
That is classified as departmental misconduct or conduct unbecoming of an officer, according to police.
A little later that day, Officer Socarras, Officer Jose Huerta and their Sergeant Jennifer Gonzalez were videotaped drinking coffee at a Casa Larios when an emergency call came in with an alert about an unconscious 5-month-old, police said in investigation records obtained by NBC 6.
Socarras was dispatched to the scene and despite being with his sergeant, he continued drinking his coffee. Nine minutes later he was cleared from the call, according to police.
Moments later the dispatcher asked Socarras to check out a signal 37, or a suspicious vehicle. He said in a radio transmission that he was en route, but investigators said it took him 25 minutes to respond.
At the end of the investigation, Sgt. Gonzalez and officers Socarras, Huerta, Ivan Tomas, Fabian Owens and Jeffrey Price all received a relief of duty memorandum dated Dec. 28, 2010.
Officer Socarras, who was also accused of doctoring reports to reflect that he had responded to the calls, wrote a memo to his lieutenant saying that at no time did he intentionally violate departmental rules or regulations.
Socarras, Huerta and Gonzalez have been fired by the Miami-Dade Police Department, according to the internal affairs report. Several more officers have been disciplined and some were expected to appeal their punishment.
The Dade County Police Benevolent Association said it was waiting for the disciplinary process to conclude before it comments, and Miami-Dade Police said it was not commenting on the investigation.
Miami-Dade resident Jeff Bretzer said he was upset that some officers were not upholding their duty to protect and serve.
"If I have a reason to call the police and they're not that responsive or if they weren't in a timely fashion, it just wouldn't be much use," he said.
But Bretzer said he was pleased the Miami-Dade Police Department looked into officers' responsiveness.
"You want to think that they are going to be doing something to correct the problem that is going on," he said.
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This isnt just in dade County. Cops are working just like the rest of us. They clock in and out like the rest of us. It's called slacking on the job.
What would you rather do? Listen to someone bitch about their missing entertainment center or make out?
dreamjordan - agreed.
The slow degradation of society. America has seen its best days I fear and now slides toward oblivion. Don't think it can happen? All it takes is for good people to do nothing.
Don't think it can happen? Many great civilizations have gone to dust. I think ignoring a call about a child in trouble, or anyone in trouble for that matter, is sending a serious signal about our public servants.
That is why you can't count on cops saving your rear end in need. Arm yourself and learn how to use your weapon.
I have posted many times that cops don't like actually doing their job if it requires paperwork. So no surprise here.
Mornin' Bill....
What I hate is we sign these guys paychecks and they act as if they're paying us to do their jobs correctly.
Pfffft....
Indeed my friend. Indeed.....
GM, CD.
2010? 2011 ? they sure are going out of their way to bring up Florida everyday, wonder why.
As for the cops.....so whats new?
Apparently, the ME generation attitude has no boundaries.
This is why so many charges get trumped up, the embelished police report to save their stupid @ss'es. They need to wear cameras so the real story can be told and see that they are actually working.....
This is a prefect example why people want their own fire arms. This is another example of lackadaisical officers. I hope their punishment is more severe than a simple fine or paid time off. Don't they realize that their decisions cost lives? Time to step up and get the management under control.
Why do you want to blame all Police for the bad conduct of the few? Maybe if they got paid more they would attract better candidate's.
They list six officers who were disciplined yet only three were fired. The article gives no detail on the offenses of the other three, but if they were similar in nature as the article would seem to imply, why were they not fired as well. Willfully ignoring a call is dereliction of their duty and should result in automatic firing. There are plenty of people out there who need jobs who would gladly take their places and perform the duties they are hired for. There is no reason to keep people employed who can not be bothered to do what they were hired to do. Of course I have no doubt that the PBA defended all six of these officers and fought like hell for them to keep their jobs, even in light of their blatant misconduct. I am also sure that this case in Miami-Dade is not an isolated one. I would imagine that you can find officers who have behaved in this same manner in most police departments of any size everywhere in the country. There are certain types of calls in particular that officers just do not feel there is any urgency in responding, particularly ones like burglaries. I had my office broken into in San Diego several years ago and computers stolen. The thief got in by breaking a window. There was blood on the window from where the thief apparently cut himself. When the police finally showed up, a few hours after we called them, they never bothered to collect this evidence or to even dust for fingerprints. The attitude, when they finally did respond to the call, was one of we'll file a report but forget about getting any of the stolen property back. Of course this would be the case when they did not even bother to collect evidence to help them try and find the criminal. The thief could have had fingerprints in the system from previous crimes and we would never even know it. A thief smashed the same window about a week later, most likely the same one, and they again did not collect any evidence. The second time the thief did not get anything because we had taken precautions, so the police showed even less interest in investigating the break-in. This is unfortunately a fairly typical attitude exhibited by police with virtually any non-violent crime. They act like they are doing you a favor to even respond to the call and show absolutely no interest in trying to solve it. Unless someone has been killed or seriously injured, the police show little interest in doing anything about the crime, particularly in a larger town or city.
Hummmmmmm ............ Sure makes me feel safer! ... lol ...
Ignoring a call about a child in trouble is serious. So three are fired. That's a good step. I hope their record is posted so they can't just go to some other town and get hired again. But what's this about the Oct 2010 business still under investigation ? Maybe the IA guys aren't doing their jobs either. Should have been over by now. If the others need firing it should have happened already. IF they are good cops the Dept should back them up and end the investigation. It took the media 2.5 years to get the story and publish it. That may be a problem in the future. Miami-Dade PD may have only fired people because they thought the story would break and if they had done nothing a storm would fall on them. IF the media can't get their stories out, the opportunity to cover up bad cops gets real.
need capes like super heroes
I am and have been very proficient in the use of weapons for many years but I still wouldn't know how a weapon would affect:
To be fair, the cops were probably on break. Everybody knows that OSHA can fine your employer if you work during break time. They might have been looking out for the taxpayers on this one. Or, maybe cops don't give two @!$%#s about about responding in a timely manner. Either way, I don't care.
Yea, arming yourself is going to save an unconscious 5 year old child!!!
Sounds like any typical Federal, State or Local Municipality worker whose paycheck comes from the taxpayer's money. Again, just another way to show how many police officers feel they are above the law and anything else having to do with society. Many of these cops rarely work in areas where there is high crime so this is their attitude. They should rotate their shifts to avoid "on-the-job slumpers".
I know of two elderly women in their 70s still working in the welfare office of a county in NJ. They brag how they sit around chit chatting all day and hardly do any work. They spent their entire career on this same job. My question is "WHY"? Lack of funds is not the answer because they love to brag about the kind of pension they are entitled to if they were to retire. When it comes to jobs with the government, age should matter. They need to add a claus for forced retirement on age or years in public service, which ever comes first. They do this in other industries like law enforcement, heavy equipment operating and judiciary services.
Just thinking about the people out there who want rewarding jobs but cannot get them because of people like these cops in Florida and others around the country like them as well as these two elderly 70-something women in NJ. Especially the younger generations coming out of college who cannot find decent work or any at all.
97% of all cops give the rest a bad name.....
After being raped by a cop....beaten non stop and raped by a husband I had a protection of abuse from and told by the cop who answered the call " He raped you? That's all men think about when their drunk" I am neither surprised or shocked. Bob Dylan said it best " The cops don't need you and man they expect the same".....
video 9/26/2011? dates Oct. 2010? Does this mean their back on the job working?
Well, as columnist Dave Barry said last month : "I moved to Miami from the United States of America."
Are They ????
they ALL do it .. only a few get caught though
Dreamjordan hit it on the head.
Same people bad mouthing all Cops...
...are the same people who say we should rely on Cops, and not personally owned firearms, for protection.
Julieann: You should see all the "deadwood" sitting around at NASA. Talk about incompetent and lazy; they sit at their desks on FB, chatrooms and ebay all day. They do not have to use a time clock, simply fill out a form as to the hours they are there. Strange how the spacecenter has that time warp ting going on...10am -3:30 becomes 8 hours work.
No, Bob it means they are back on the job "NOT" working!
When seconds count, cops are on a break, meeting their mistresses, ignoring you, etc etc...... Depending on someone else for you and your family's safety is just plain foolish. Arm yourself and learn how to defend yourself. You will live longer.
And people want to rely on cops if they are in trouble? I know I can count .380 reasons why not to count on a cop and rely on myself. How a cop can ignore a child in trouble baffles and disgusts me. Glad they were fired. I wonder if they were drinking coffee when dude man had his face eaten off as well.
This is everywhere! Yes, there are good cops, but unfortunately for us the public many are just like this or worse.
I remember a comment that someone posted on a similar story last year. He called the police to say that someone was breaking into his tool shed. Their response was that there were no units available and he ended the call. He then called back a few minutes later to say that he had shot the guy breaking into his shed. In minutes numerous police officers were on the scene and caught the burgular in the act. A officer approached the man and asked I thought you said you shot him? He responded, I thought you said there were no units available?
This is exactly why we need our guns and the ability to protect ourselves! Call the police and if they're not too busy making out with their GF, stuffing their faces or shaking down the very citizens they've sworn to protect they'll show up. If they're going to show up just to clean up the mess then the mess should be made by the criminals blood and brains splattered on the pavement.
Some are making comments that a few bad cops gives the rest a bad name, hate to spoil it for you but this is more than just a few bad apples. It is more like 75% are no good and the rest are actually trying to do a good job. Thats why you can't count on a cop for help any longer. Arming yourself to protect yourself is your best defense. Wake up America.
Check out Warren v District of Columbia. The Supreme Court has already ruled that the police have no obligation to respond to emergency calls or to protect the private citizen. Their duty is to the community at large.
as usual, Florida ..................
@Grandpa-2986035
It's not just "the few" the problem is widespread, not just in Miami, but in all major cities! They get paid quite well, and they have a retirement plan that most people could only dream of! This is what you get when your hiring preferences are for those who won't ask questions and don't want to think! Ever wonder where the high school bully ended up? Check your local police or sheriff's department.
Most likely, there were no officers available because they were tied up with other calls...People who waited their turn for help. You changed the response time, when you said you shot the intruder. In other words, the officer had to be cleared from a call he was currently on to tend to you. It doesn't mean dispatch or the officers were holding your call out of spite.
Also, the report lost all credibility when the reporter repeatedly uses dates of when this video was supposedly shot, but the timestamp clearly shows, not only a different date, but a date from over a year later.
Denver Bill 2 said: “What would you rather do? Listen to someone bitch about their missing entertainment center or make out?”
Joke or no joke, let me ask this…What would YOU rather do? Watch a dispatched cop help you save your unresponsive baby’s life, or watch on MSN how the cop that was dispatched was making out at the mall while your unresponsive baby DIED???
Common Sense is correct. That's an example of today’s “me” generation. They only care about themselves.
Selfish bastages. Enough said.
By the way folks...these are the same people who are going to be on the "death panel" and will decide YOUR fate. Comforting, isn't it?
Yea, you are going to take the one situation that doesn't apply to the true fact that relying on law enforcement to provide the only protection for you and your family from thugs and criminals will be the biggest... and possibly the last... mistake of your life.
Just like any other high stress job some burn out and start down the path of me. Many of the deputies on the county force here teeter back and forth on that edge.. Trying to give 100% and yet not get emotionally/mentally involved.. After talking to many law enforcement folks including a neighbor and my nephew I get the same answer but in different words every time.. Facts are facts and when you are told that you are responsible for your own safety and security reality sets in.. The police are there to pick up the pieces after a crime is committed if their actions prevent a crime that is pure luck and not their job.. Half their time is to be spent obtaining revenue for their district via tickets and fines.. The rest of the time is spent responding to calls with a small sliver of time devoted to community patrols hoping to spot a crime in progress.. So that's it, you can arm yourself and be an active deterrent or hope the police are called and their response time is fast enough to intervene but do not count on it..
So, we have law enforcement that decide what is an emergency based on their interpretation.
And the Liberals/Progressives want us to give up our arms and hope the police deem our robbery, rape or other crime is an "emergency".
NO THANKS!!!!!!
If my, or my families, life is threatened I'll handle it if the cops are too busy at the mall. I'll deal with their dereliction of duty after they clear the bodies of the criminals out of my home.
Average response time 911 call: 23 minutes
Average response time of a .357: 1400 feet per second
Hey, I know, we should get more government to regulate this!
LOL...the newscaster's accent cracks me up when she pronounces the officers names
...hey honey - why don't you do the rest of the report that way?
"thees officers were no reesponding to dey calls on de rrrrradio"
This is a plain as day example, you are responsible for your own safety, law enforcement is not responsible.
Good luck with your situation if you are facing an attack by a criminal, law enforcement will be taking a nice relaxing coffee break.
It is up to you to defend yourself and let the cops figure out the messy details after the fact, as is customary for them.
wade-3708300
Why is the truth so funny?
I've always thought the Po'lice were only good for taking reports, but now they can't even do that!
Grandpa, they lump ALL police in the same group just as they lump ALL gun owners in the same.
If you're a cop and don't like the pay, get another job.
I agree with the postings that it's cops like these that more and more people are arming themselves.
That's pretty much what was done to the three that weren't fired, the 3 that were fired still have their law enforcement accreditation's and will likely be hired by other departments. The Dade county district attorney's office was presented with the case and the Dade county Da Katheryn Frenandez Rundle declined to prosecute and left discipline up to the PD's. All the officers involved will likely be on the street as police officers in the near future.
People seem to think of law enforcement officers as uniquely diligent at their jobs. They look upon them as super heroes when in reality they are just human beings like the rest of us. They put their pants on one leg at a time like anyone else. This is standard practice all over the world, not just miami-dade. People need to realize that police officers will slack off just like other people. They are not super humans. However; for the most part, most of them do what they signed up for even if it is a discomfort for them. Like with any job some people give it their all while others give just enough to skim by.
This just one of many symptoms plaguing our society. This is the me generation; all about me first. Unless we start taking responsibility for out actions, we are going to fall fast.
Libs, no one said a gun would save the 5 year old. Actually try to make your argument not seem completely worthless next time. I have known many cops, and all of them were very good people who cared about their job and were straight forward people. Yet, just living and coming in contact with cops, I see that many are lazy and are straight up hypocrites.
Husker,
And she is not alone; So these few policemen and women represent ALL of the police in society??
When someone slacks at YOUR company does he/she represent you as well??
I would ask that of all of you who are on here during company time and on a company computer!! Hypocrite MUCH????
If a citizen went up to them while it was happening and pointed out that they weren't doing their job, you would see an abuse of power immediately.
Another reason NOT TO GO TO FLORIDA...RUBIO and REDNECKS are the first reason!
This just goes to show you that all cops are corrupt. These guys should have been FIRED on the spot. And they wonder why the public does not trust them. This goes for all cops!!!! City, County, State, and ALL Federal agencies. They Lie to get there way, Steal, they do drugs, and most of all they are CORRUPT!!!
There have been and always will be cops like these in just about any medium to large city.. If they aren't simply lazy and inefficient, the way these cops appear to be, then they are crooked and dangerous.. Cops like the ones described above are the same types of people that would be lazy and inefficient in ANY job they chose to undertake, while the latter types, if they didn't choose to go into law enforcement would probably be working in politics, because they crave power above all else..
There are always those who will abuse the system and the people they work for, not because they can, but because they WANT to.. Sadly, it rubs off on the rest of those who wear the 'To Protect and Serve' uniform and puts them into a bad light as well.. It's best when police departments simply fire cops like these, the faster they are gone, the better for the whole department!
People are human, and it's time we stop putting law enforcement on a pedestal, making them out to be super heroes who can do no wrong and are there to be our saviors.
The only one you can depend on is yourself.
Only in Florida
GPS transmitters in their cars will cure that in a hurry!
Officer Socarras, Officer Jose Huerta and their Sergeant Jennifer Gonzalez
Maybe if we'd stop hiring from the Federales we'd find some cops who weren't already corrupt.
See, now, thinking that way will be the second biggest mistake of your life.... the first will be in thinking law enforcement is your first line of defense for you and your family, instead of you, yourself.
Back around the mid 90's my girlfriend and I went down to Miami to have a little fun, well we ended up at a nicer bar/club (cannot remember the name now) and somehow someone put something into my girlfriends drink and she got sicker than a dog, throwing up, not able to stand up and not even knowing where she even was at. When we tried to leave the bar with the help of a couple of nicer people who were there the police ended up outside the entrance to this club or bar and when I told one officer of what had happened he threatened me with being arrested for being drunk in public but I had only had 2 beers and was on my third when this all happened. I had someone callus a cab because I wasn't going to be driving after all of the events. I took down the cops badge number and the next day filled a report against him for not helping us one bit and not being any kind of a decent officer at all. What kind of serve and protect is that? Must only apply to the local criminals.
Well to make a long story shorter, nothing ever came of the report, not even a call back for more info. I sent a letter to the then mayor of that crap hole of a city telling him of the story and I got a letter back saying that they would love me to return to their great city and see the great sites and all the other bull, never was the original complaint even mentioned or replied too.
I wouldn't set foot in, or a spend a red cent in or around the city of Miami as its just a waste of space and you put your life in jeopardy by asking for any help from there police force. Any cop who doesn't do there job 100% isn't worth squat anywhere as they have one of the most important jobs in the country, to protect and serve and they have all lost sight of that fact.
My girlfriend remembered very little of the previous nights events and she couldn't keep much food for down the next couple of days so we left early to return home because this whole incident wrecked our vacation. Florida is a lost cause because this all happened back in the early to mid 90's and by what the news articles show us now it hasn't ever tried to better itself. Florida is always we be a lost cause. Awful vacation and a waste of my money and time.
Turns out the people who helped me that night were also from out of town! So even the locals weren't any help for us that night. I'd rather retire where the people are good and honest, you can trust them to know they will always help out when they can and who cares about it being sunny all the time, it really stunk down there and I never missed ever going back.
I've been to a lot of other states that have enjoyed all my tourist dollars for there local economies, I hope Florida falls off the map someday, at least Miami that is.
Muddiemike: Interesting story and I'm sure it's all true. I've been to South Beach and although the area is beautiful, the locals ruin it, and by locals I mean the Cuban infestation.
What you basically have is a bunch of immigrants - legal and otherwise - who have taken over an entire city but have absolutely no allegiance to, or pride in, the United States of America or what we stand for (of course, I'm not sure what that is any longer either).
They represent everything that's wrong with the immigration system today.
Cops like this and like the ones who violate people's rights by abusing them and other things are exactly why my son, whose dream was always to be a police officer, is now looking for a new career to pursue. It's so sad, because I think he would be a good cops- or at least what they use to be! I don't know about them anymore. You sure can't train your young children to automatically trust a cop anymore :(
Diane:
Even the "good cops" can be and are corrupted by the bad. Cross the thin blue line by even reporting a bad cop and your back up may never show up when you need them.
There's no way to win and impossible to have a corruption free department.
If those who are sworn to protect and serve are negligent of their duties, should they not be an accessory to the crime they blatantly ignored? For example, if that suspicious car had hit and killed a pedestrian in the time frame that the officer should have already been there, should the officer be charged as an accessory to manslaughter?
And before the haters start hating, if you take that oath or any other oath that involves the safety and well-being of those who depend on protection.. and then ignore that oath over a cup of coffee, shouldn't an immediate removal be at least warranted?
With police always doing the PR rounds about their cut funding, would it not be better to give jobs likes these to people that will actually... I don't know... UPHOLD the law to the best of their ability? If ignoring a call and drinking coffee is upholding the law then it's time for a radical change.
About time for responsibility they should have to be held accountable for the highways and towns they enforce they have no accountablity at all, yet the general public is held accountable for all
To L.T.L. Greenman,although i kinda agree with you,about being a accessory,common sense will tell you that would be kaos,not to mention expensive for taxpayers,and more lawyers trading in there yachts for bigger one's.In a perfect world it should be cut and dry,you are caught on tape not doing your job,and putting the lives of others in jeoparty,and are fired.And not to work in that state as a police officer.But all police officers should be FULLY awear of the consequences,and will be watched randomly.But when a police officer is involved in a crime,then YES they must be prosecuted,BUT are given much longer time because of them being a police officer.Just like when a person does something wrong to a cop,and is given longer sentences,because of being a cop.AS for the superviser,should be stripped from ever being a cop in the United States.
The majority of police officers are doing the best they can at a very difficult job. However, the next time you hear a report about officer misconduct, try and remind yourself that they are not perfect and these kinds of things happen all the time. The 16 year old kid from the ghetto who says the officer punched him in the stomach while handcuffed out of view of the camera or the kid from the barrio who says that the cops planted weed on him are not always lying.
This is affirmative action at work...
Hey Cappy to bad they would not remember that we are human too but only works one way good idea not
To Protect and Serve... when we feel like it!
Don't worry Al, Barry's got your back....you tell us about how great he and his agenda is everyday. These people are the ones and the only ones to help you. you don't need ANY other back up plan. You bought it, you support it... you deal with it, you pay for it. that simple.......good luck with that. it was after all your choice.
This has to do with the President how??
What ??????
Although poorly stated, I think Scooter is referring to the administration wanting to ban guns since that is the best source of protection when someone is intruding. Waiting 25 minutes for a cop would not be very efficient.
This has to do with the President how??
Well, Obama and Hillary sat around, did nothinng, and four Americans died.
Umm..........what???
This administration has not proposed banning all guns. That is your own paranoid delusion. The administration has proposed nationwide gun registration and better presale checks in addition to smaller magazines and the limitation of assault style rifles. There will still be plenty of guns available for target shooting and self-defense.
The administration has also proposed better mental health services, which is something a lot of you insist is the real problem, but the NRA is even opposing this.
Of course Obama's at fault. You think they had lazy or corrupt cops before Obama?
Bush sat around when 3000+ Americans died on 9-11, numerous embassy attacks, 7000 in his wars and Reagan when 299 marines died in a terrorist attack in Lebanon. I know you think Obama is a superman who can simply stop any attacks by force of will but really you people are insane.
@underemployed
Could you be any more naive? You can't round up all the guns until they're all registered and you know where they are! If you tell people you're going to take them, they won't register them, so of course they haven't proposed banning all guns!
Yeah, but they come off as rascist if they say its cause he's black or Kenyan, or they sound consistently stupid if they retreat yet again to the birther and other worn out crap, so they throw new garbage out.
Gee Rex, how many attacks on embassies were there under Bush2's watch? hmmm, let's see........
On June 14, 2002, the terrorist group Al Qanoon, which was suspected to be an al Qaeda branch, sent a suicide bomber into the U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12 people and injuring 51 others. Nearly a year later, four were convicted of plotting the bombing, which blew in windows and left body parts all over the sidewalks near the embassy.
On February 28, 2003, Gunmen on motorcycles attacked the U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing two police officers and wounding five other officers and a civilian in front of the consulate.
Late in the evening of May 12, 2003, gunmen entered Al Hamra Oasis Village in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, a compound known to be inhabited by Americans and other Westerners.
On July 30, 2004, three suicide bombers targeting the Israeli and U.S. embassies in Taskkent, Uzbekistan managed to kill two and injure nine others.
On December 6, 2004, terrorists stormed the heavily guarded U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, occupying it and taking 18 hostages for a time. When the incident was over, they had killed nine people, including four security guards and five staff.*******thanks to PCTC
and that's just his first term. there were six more his second term. so, who was asleep at the switch then? hmmmm?
when you veer off topic and parrot FauxNews talking points rather than doing your homework, you run the risk of looking like an uninformed fool
Larry, you must really love Obama. Your arguments about 911 and Bush or Reagan and the bombing are completely different than the attack on Benghazi. The attack on Bengasi went on for 7 hours, that is very different than a bombing or from aircraft flying into the world trade buildings. Seven hours gives the military plenty of time to respond to the attack, IF they have the will or orders to do so. My guess would be the military was ordered to stand down and not respond.
One Specter gunship arriving on station in Benghazi would have stopped the attack cold. It doesn't take 7 hours to get a gunship to Benghazi.
Oh this is nice!
Thats what she said.
Mornin' Scooter. It is a little known fact but it is true. My friends and I started that comment in the back of a '67 Ford Econoline van while traveling the back roads in 1976. Now it is known nation wide and maybe globally.
GM Stonepipe.
Good now we know who to blame. Obviously the gal in the video didn't have a lot of taste, or maybe she just likes handcuffs.
What? I started that phrase in 1676, a good 300 years before you and your friends ever climbed into your '67 Ford Econoline van.
Bad news! I used it just before the chariot race in the grand finale for Caligulas coronation, I believe that was around 125 Roman era.
Uh, I think Adam said that to God about Eve when trying to talk his way out of his big mess...
Most cops are inherently stupid by nature. Some more than others. Why would a smart person want to work with a bunch of idiots
Fire all of their sorry asses. What pieces of s__t these cops are.
And replace them with .....? In case you haven't noticed our "institutes of higher learning" haven't exactly been producing allot of Rhodes scholars as of late. What makes you think "the academy" is doing any better?
what planet are you from?
plenty of college grads...but why would any of them want to be a cop?
Risking your life, lots of disrespect, working all day with criminals and if you have a college degree, you can make as much or more sitting behind a desk
So you get a lot of people who shouldn't be cops...they like the power, makes them feel important, etc..
Plus, you have to speak Spanish to be a cop in Miami.
Socarras, Huerta and Gonzalez. Hmmm, go figure
Cops ignoring burglaries and stuff? Say it ain't so!
This my friends is why we need strong second amendment rights. When there's an intruder in your home and seconds matter the cops are only minutes away(if they come at all). I think I'll be keeping my AK if people like 'this' are who I've got protecting and serving me.
What ya mean ..."IF"....??
Cops being scumbags, who would have thought. I never really questioned the police until I had to work with them. Guess what, most suck. I shouldn't generalize but most cops just don't want to have to do paper work at the end of the day. I'm a bit stunned they actually fired these guys, but they will probably be Campus PD or a school district cop now.
@Applejacks
Cops are drawn from the same labor pool as the rest of us. Just like the rest of us 90% of them are decent hard working folk. The other 10% are slackers, psycho's, pervs, on a power trip or just weird. The problem being that "their" job entails them carrying a gun, that is what should scare you.
Will my call for help go to the 90%, or the 10% slacker? My advice...arm yourselves. Dialing 911 is a long wait for a train that don't come. Don't want to listen to me? How about this guy...Luke 22:36 "Let he without a sword sell his garment and buy one". We'll soon be on our own.
stupefied
Our government says we're all equal, so the 90% lower their standards to those of the 10%. It was just a few years ago we were fairly smart people, now we are just all equal.
Stupified...believe me, that has always been my fear, that public servants, trained in the use of various weapons that they LEGALLY can use, and that have sworn an oath to protect and serve their municipality and its citizens, often do "cherry-pick" the calls they choose to respond to, because they may not conflict with their MANY coffee breaks, or they may not call for tons of paperwork after the call. What I'm more afraid of, especially from what I'm hearing on the board now from the 2nd amendment fanatics, is that because of such stories of police NOT doing their jobs to the satisfaction of victims who may need police assistance, that the opposite effect is going to happen.....vigilantism will begin to creep into our daily lives, and the law will become just lax enough to allow such things as "shooting at a neighbor who won't turn down his/her stereo", or the "accidental" shooting of a pesky Jehovah's Witness, who was knocking on someone's door at the wrong time ("I thought it was someone breaking into my front door!!").
If the police want to choose which calls they want to go on, allow them to choose whether or not to respond to someone smoking weed on his own property, not bothering anybody.....but to ignore a call about an unconscious child?? Absolutely NOT!! That's why I have little respect for cops, in general....when I hear stories like this, and know that it isn't an uncommon happening. Start having the police respond to calls where lives of innocent citizens are at risk, but allow them to ignore calls of drug/alcohol use on their own property, or to ignore the occasional person who may not have come to a complete stop before turning at a red light....that can help with turning around my thoughts and feelings for law enforcement.
But let's not go knee-jerk in the other direction, where everyone is armed and may, in some instances, be legally able to mete out their own justice as the gun owners see fit.
Devils- Ever wondered what makes "good" people? They understand right from wrong, good from bad and do the right or good thing. If that pesky Jehovah's Witness shows up at my door or is prying at my window at 3am then he's likely to get "accidentally" shot. If he knocks on my door at a decent time of day then I'll likely hear him out and bid him a good day.
What you should really fear is criminals realizing that the cops aren't doing their jobs and can go about their activities unimpeded.
@stupified-1351097
You haven't dealt with too many cops I take it.
good post Stupified. Even if it were 2% slacker to 98% great cops, or .5% to 99.5% the damage the minority do can be huge. We in the US tend not to give proper thought to the power of destructive vs constructive effort. So we tolerate too much that we shouldn't. Now people are supposed to carry weapons like the old west because like the old west there is no real law - it's turning into every person for themselves. Heard Chicago had 100 more murders than NYC last year and NYC has 3 times the people. Rahm told 200 desk officers to go on patrol. Miami has cops who simply do not respond. God help us.
Police = human beings. They slacked off, they got disiplined, move on people.
It's more fun to complain.
Sounds like a management problem, the sergeant was complacent and allowed it to happen. If the boss is slacking, the subordinates will follow.
really nice grammar in the first sentence. the dumbing down of america.
Unlike your post, the first paragraph of the article is grammatically correct. Read it this way:
"A group was disciplined following a 2010 internal affairs investigation, police documents showed."
The dumbing down of America, indeed.
This is why I say that these stupid cop shows are disarming voters and the rest of the public. Most people get their beliefs about law enforcement from fictional accounts and the reality is that cops are not supervised very well. It is a very small community and very inbred. With that said, it isn't me that has to respond to a crazy person with a gun in the street or worse, in a home with other people. It wouldn't hurt any of us to thank a cop every now and then.
He just accidentally didn't do his job. Yeah, that makes sense.
"Oh, being told to respond to a call means I'm supposed to go? Oh, right, yeah, they... uh... they never covered that in orientation. What do I mean I should know better?"
Here we go
TO SERVE AND PROTECT.............if they weren't busy making out or out for donuts-that comes first as we all know.
How quick everybody forgets how many life's they saved, How many deadly situations all of them encountered doing there jobs. That doesn't count for anything.
We don't know that these particular officers saved any lives prior. We have to wonder why they were the subject of the investigation in the first place. That there was an investigation at all signals some degree of hope.
Ray. What are you trying to say? Are you saying that it is alright to do your job some of the time, but you dont really have to do your job all of the time? Are you saying, that if I were a cop, and I answered three calls today and ignored two calls, that is alright? Ray, if you believe that, YOU are part of the problem.
I believe Ray meant that by writing speeding tickets the average motorist is protected from eminent death on the highways or that the pot smokers life of underemployment and the resulting poverty was
avertedoops caused by being busted for a victimless crime.For one by looking at the fat ass Sargent woman dade has NO fitness requirements. Two, this will be a nice wake up call for other police officers that would rather do anything but their jobs. This is NOT a job you can slack of at. So anyone writing those comments are idiots. If you don't want to do the job find another one where if you feel like slacking off no one will get hurt or die.
@mj-1919
Looks like someone was slacking off in 3rd grade English class!
@NJDevil
PRODUCTIVE!!
Do you have anything to say that anyone wants to hear???
@Missnoital
Sorry if I struck a nerve with you. I find it funny that he can call someone a fat ass and criticize others while butchering the English language. I guess it is acceptable to you though. It is easy to judge someone hiding behind a computer.
Well NJD, I'm glad to see that you have nothing to do other then troll forums for spelling or grammar issues. Then again I have never cared what Douche bags have to say when they have nothing else to do. I'm happy you have a hobby. lol.
WOW MJ I gess you had a dicktionaree with u becawse you didint spell aneething rong this time; other than your use of the word "then" which applies to time. For your information the correct spelling when comparing something is "than" not "then" simpleton. Go back to skool and ejukate yorself!
Entertaining that sort of thinking would accelerate the process if true and actually act as a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy mechanism. I highly doubt that these officer's are typical. While it's true that humans are clever at finding the line of least resistance and lazy way out of efforts required for any task, the fact that the investigation took place and that the officers were reprimanded and fired for failing to do their expected duties indicates societal collapse is not exactly imminent.
I suppose it's easy to "take the high road' when you have no subjective experience. If you actually lived here and saw their corruption and lack of character up close, and every day you would perhaps feel differently.
Generalizations can be misleading, but to characterize Miami Cubans as being loud, cowardly and corrupt con-men is simply recognizing the realities after many decades of systematic abuse.
I live in Miami, we need the FBI down here. We have the most corrupt police in the US. People say it's because most of the police is hispanic or Cuban. Before someone calls me racist, please google miami police misconducts. There is always something going on. From protecting illegal gambling , to drug dealing, partying on the beach with tourist women , you name it.
I doubt that it has much to do with the ethnicity of the police. Every large urban center has corruption issues across public and private organizations alike.
Socarras, Huerta and Gonzalez
Take a trip to Tijuana, you don't have to break any laws, just look like a wealthy American. Once accused you pay the fine,(read bribe) guilty or not. That being said and culture being a minor issue, oops profiling! Same police ethnicity, same mindset, most are just normal people doing a thankless job, others not so much. Your "elected" community leaders want more revenue? Set up a speed trap and issue quotas. Never mind that a police car that is in plain sight and is able to be seen slows traffic much more efficiently than a speed trap, ah but it doesn't fill the pockets of local government and slowing traffic for safety is not the issue and is completely irrelevant isn't it!
Like any work force there will be a number of workers that just do enough to get by. The larger the work force...the more slackers you will have. More middle management checking up on employees can weed out the bad ones, but sadly, middle management is always the first to be canned when budgets are tight.
In a perfect world you would expect ANY police officer to be diligent and on time for their duty's....sadly it's not a perfect world.
Exactly.
@rickeyt
Middle management can't fix the problem, they created it!
Not all cops are like these. These cops need to be fired and have the license pulled. How many people do we each know in our respective professions that are slackers? And are we one of them? No. Then lets not make generalities that all ... are bad.
Not all, just most! What license?
If you call the police around here, 7 out of 10 times you'll get a response like these. I'd like to know how they caught them on tape, I might develop a new hobby!
Their scumbag Union will protect them and get them back pay.
Ridiculous, 5 month old not breathing and those animals sat around drinking coffee. Just plain awful human beings. They should get some sort of jail time.
Right?! A caretaker of a child who elected to ignore them while in crisis would be charged with child abuse and neglect which is exactly what they were doing. Charge them like anyone else would be!
Now we know why cops become mad and hostile. Then they get us for resisting arrest, interfering with a police officer, and anything else the can conjure up in their reports. See, they know their action are wrong then try to cover it up by arresting us.
Though police are a needed element of law enforcement I do not trust them. My fear is that to protect their actions and police buddies they go against us folks. Sad commentary.
When seconds count the Police are only minutes away. Concealed Carry people, it why the Wild West was a polite society with a way lower crime rate.............
Looks good on them, serve and protect(maybe). Always a few of those types in any big workforce.
The problem is that it's not just a few!
Anybody care to bet that they belonged to a "we get paid in full whether we work or sleep" Union??
Exactly all unions are good for now is slackers just more proof
Thanks for your generalization. I am union and am not a slacker by any stretch of the imagination. I do my job to the best of my ability and leave at the end of the day knowing I did a good job! I truly feel those of you that comment like this are just angry that you do not have a good job with good benefits. Don't begrudge everyone this simply because you don't have it.
slufoot, your post is a pathetic crock of @!$%#. I doubt very seriously if you have the stamina to do the job of many union members. You're jealous.
Neil, it sounds like you're referring to business unions, which are called associations.
No they are right. Unions pretty much just protect the dumb and lazy so they can keep getting their dues. Unions are outdated and should just be allowed to go extinct.