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Courtesy the Pendleton family
Hadiya Pendleton during her trip to Washington for President Obama's inauguration.
A week after Chicago teenager Hadiya Pendleton was shot dead, her killer is still on the loose -- but her family says they are confident they will see justice.
"It's just a matter of time when this person is turned in," said Shatira Wilks, a cousin of the 15-year-old whose death made headlines across the country, focused attention on Chicago's murder rate and became part of the national debate over gun control.
Pendleton was gunned down while hanging out with friends in a park near her well-regarded school, just days after she performed with a marching band during President Barack Obama's inaugural festivities.
Police suspect she was the innocent victim of a gang member who mistook the teens for rivals on his turf. A reward for his capture has grown by the day, and cops said tips are still coming in.
"This bounty is now $40,000," said Wilks, who is acting as the family spokeswoman while Pendleton's parents prepare for her funeral Saturday.
"I think the family member or friend of the person sheltering him is viewing it as a lottery ticket, watching it go up so quickly," she said. "And I believe that at some point, they are going to turn this person in for the money."
She said whoever raised the shooter failed society by not teaching him right from wrong and is now compounding it by letting him dodge responsibility.
"How can you allow parents to suffer like this?" she asked.
Pendleton's mother, Cleopatra Cowley, and her father, Nate "Anthony" Pendleton, are facing the nightmare of burying their only daughter this weekend. A thousand or more people are expected to attend Friday's wake and the funeral the next day.
"She has a large following in death, as well as in life," Wilks said. "And we are already seeing change in Chicago as a result of her death."
She pointed to the city's decision to remove 200 cops from desk duty and put them on the streets to fight crime and several anti-crime marches and vigils that have been held since the murder.
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I still feel very terrible for this girl. Just hanging out with her friends. Probably talking about how hey were going to succeed in life. Then all hell breaks loose because of some lowlife scumbag...
Yeah, these guys just can't keep their mouths shut.
I'll put my paycheck on the fact that the guy who pulled the trigger will blab all about it on Facebook.
Criminals are so freakin' stupid. This is why they become a criminal in the first place.
They don't have any other skills that would take them down the right path in the first place.
It's in their "Up Bringing".
@Creek Dog, I'll put my money right along with you!
Sorry, the money that would have funded the extra cops to do this went to their pension contributions instead.
sincere sympathy to the family ............................... may i ask this question - in the kindest way ..... just curious - please. who names these folks ? Cleopatra. Shatira. Hadiya. i have ask a couple people about their names or other people's names that are similar to these and all i get is "that is their name". who comes up with these names ????????????? again, not poking fun at all - just curious.
1.5
The Hadiya Kingdom (r. 13th century-15th century) was an ancient kingdom once located in southwestern Ethiopia, south of the Abbay River and west of Shewa. Hadiya means religious leader.
RI Mom, thanks for the lesson. I wondered about her name also. Cleopatra I knew. Interesting.
There is a code in Chicago scum protects scum they have no dignity that one little girl was worth more then every gang member put together. the POS that is responsible and the POS that pulled the trigger are probably in NY or Oakland by now. it will take more money to get someone to talk, and there is a possibility he was already sacrificed.
ORB - - - - how dare you? You insult us Neanderthals.
I highly doubt they were talking about "How they were going to succeed in life"
The reason this issue of gun regulations has come to light is not just because the illegal shooting, We all know the gun is not doing the shooting its those morons that can't think for themselves and listen to talk radio that got me worried, some dumb azz says Hey, they want to take away our guns and all the idiots line up yelling the same crap, did you hear anyone that was not a dumb azz say that NO!
Why not, Brian? We used to talk about that stuff when I was a kid. Not all teenagers are shallow.
I'm calling b.s. on that too David. Very shallow.
Dude,
You've got issues outside of this story. Take care of them............. then post.
Besides, everything you said, was on TV, one time or another. "Stereotype"...
Really........
I'm sorry for the family to lose their only daughter. I just can't help but think that this would not be making headlines if she hadn't been associated with the inauguration and that's just really sad. She's just be another Chicago statistic.
Taking guns away from people is NOT the answer. Getting the guns out of the hands of idiots is what needs to happen. Bad people do bad things. I sadly agree with the poster who said that we would probably not be talking about this if it happened to someone else somewhere else. :(
the shooter is still on the loose...so be careful in chicago...ya'll need a good community leader...i'm sure one who doesn't mine throw'n money at problem is the solution...man the streets round the clock ...hell yes with no legal guns in a @!$%# hole it's your best bet...'''take a bullet from the man who pull it'''...
These kids are not stupid. They are victims of a severe lack of parenting and love. If anyone in their young life had said to them, "You matter; you are worthwhile, I care about you, and I love you", they wouldn't have taken the path they have. In their minds, the gang takes the place of a loving family. As it is, they are considered 'throwaway' kids, and no one believes in them. They realize at a young age that no one cares what they do.
criminals are not stupid, there are millions of unsolved crimes. look up the stats the amount of solved crimes are in the single digit percentile
So the price of morality in Chicago is $40K. I'm a cynic. If he hasn't been identified by now he won't be.
Another gun-toting perp who is goanna walk and laugh about it with his neanderthal cronies.
Yep, because only the criminals have guns in Chicago aside from the police and good luck with them helping..
Oh someones going to roll over on this POS. And then he/she will be held up as some poor underadvantaged teen age saint. If this was my daughter I would ask that all information be funneled to me directly. I would have absolutely no problem wasting this POS and perhaps cleaning up one more street. Enough of this crap is enough. This isn't new, this isn't something that just materialized, it's been around forever and all we've ever done is shut our eyes and let it happen. The problem has always been noninvolved parents. You breed em, push em out the tube and forget em. I want this person so bad I can taste it.
Run sucka you can't hide. People gonna bust yo ass, you ain't got no friends. If you had any sense at all, which I doubt, you'd blow your own brains out, but that takes a man with courage and that ain't you punk.
Funny you say that ORB since African-Americans are the only ones that actually don't have small percentages of Neanderthal DNA in them, and I think we all know who was responsible for this...
Gotnorice...
Are you saying black people are dumber than neanderthals?
No. Just the POS who shot this precious girl.
I'll bet you guys feel very fortunate to be a white guy huh! Sooo, what's is your point?! hmm, really...
What a shame man...
Absolutely correct!
You have a very good night and a better tomorrow. ;-)
40,000.oo would buy you a dodge truck..like Paul Harvey advertised from the grave...put you a custom made ''snitch'' tag on it...
This family deserves justice. I am anxious to see how well educated the perp actually is. This mother speaks english well, too well for her daughter to be involved in a gang. Educated parents raise educated children.
I saw a report that this happened at one in the morning.......would like verification on that one.
2:30 P.M. is when it happened.
Female version of Trayvon. Hey, it was tragic. But what death isn't. How about a bus load of Mexican citizens crashing on a mountain road in California when the brakes went out. Let's play that one up for 6 months too.
right like that is going to happen, that one didn't envolve "guns"
Jon
Maybe you will explain why you say that this is a "female version of Trayvon". She did not fight with anyone. This is suspected gang activity. Do you base your astute analysis of this story on anything but the skin color of the victim? Are you always this irrational?
What kind of new do you believe should not be "played up"? Does it occur to you that the news that lasts is the news that attracts peoples' interest?
AMEN.if it was a white person we would not hear about it.they also would not have seen obama.
Unless it was a white shooter in which case we would never hear the end of it.
Ithinkyourscreennamesucks
The reason this made national news is the girl who was killed performed at the inauguration a few days before the murder. This would have been national news regardless of race.
You reveal yourself as a racist and as a typical, boring Obama hater who uses every opportunity to insult and demean.
DrAlchemy
You are another misinformed white guy with a race agenda. I guess we could call your affliction "white paranoia".
cool story don.
There were 500+ murders last year in Chicago and January 2013 set a decades old record for homicides for the month.
The only racism or agenda here is by Obama and his PC libtard fruitcake brand of followers who consider her part in his performance (inauguration implies he is presidential material, puhhllleeeease.......) more important than the other 549 people murdered in the last 13 months.
DrAl
Her presence at the inauguration makes the story unique. Unique stories are news.
This comment of yours is racist. Your "agenda" is obviously racist and anti-Obama, and it is pretty obvious that racism is the likely main reason that you hate the President.
This is another of your racist gems
Everyone is a racist that isn't black. I'm a racist, the pizza delivery guy is a racist, Obama is only 1/2 racist because he is only 1/2 white. EVERYONE is a racist. It doesn't mean anything anymore. That word has been worn the F@CK out. ANYONE that has a different view than anyone of black decent is a racist. Anything anyone says is either out & out racist or it's a code word that is meant racist. Chicago is now a racist word. Inner City is now a racist word. I would hate like hell to lead my life looking for a racial meaning in every word of every day. Nobody gives a crap anymore. Big Deal.
Deerhunterbow1
You made a completely foolish allegation in your first sentence, then supported that statement with a bunch of illogical statements that have no factual or logical basis. I accept neither your premise nor your argument.
I don't hate Obama because he is half black. I hate Obama because he is a stupid a$$hole and his policies are destructive.
The racism part just makes it fun, mostly because people like don get SOOOO worked up about it. So I'm allegedly racist, isn't everybody?
You make a GREAT POINT deerhunterbow1....
Don et al, also, any Black person who disagrees with the politically correct Black People on any issue are Uncle Toms.
Only a bonehead would do racism for fun. Only a bonehead would make such a foolish "uncle Tom" comment
Such a very sad story. This poor young girl and my condolences to her family. They raised a daughter properly. The mother is right, scum raising scum is what is happening in Chicago and other places in our country. It is way past time that we revolt against this awful system of parenting. One bad generation raising another bad generation. Sadly, this multiplies. How many bad kids are these bad parents raising? It is a nightmare - it is just goes round and round.
This must be stopped. The family structure in America is dissolving before our eyes. Men who abandon families and run off and start other families. How many wives have they had? 3? 4? This is also happening in middle class white and black homes. Too many women are left fending for themselves trying to financially and emotionally support kids - being both father and mother. I know it happens the other way too, but more often the women are left alone. The kids are suffering! All of them are suffering!
They have no father to look up to. The mother's have no back-up with the kids. It all creates non-respect in the home. As a kid, I remember my mom scolding us kids for something and it was like, "no big deal". But, if we heard my dad holler out, we knew we were in trouble! Just his deep voice was scary! He meant business!
I am so passionate about this problem. We abandon our kids and we abandon our country. It is time to stop it and it will take the American people to fix it. Lackadaisical response to men leaving families. OK, who is next? It used to be frowned upon. Men were not considered to be men who walked on their families. Now, it's just "Oh well!" This attitude in America needs to change. It need to change for white families, black families, Asian families, and Hispanic families. This attitude must change. We are losing our kids!
No parenting or the lack of it is a unique problem to the black community. Walk away from families, what one horse town do you live in?? Saw a black kid on tv bragging about fathering 21 kids, never knew a one of them. It is not mothers raising the kid it is, if lucky, grandmothers. But it is not PC to say this. Black leadership has failed them, Jessie Jackson with his "love child". There is no more money, if there is a solution it is going to have to be found from within.
DM57
Lack of parenting is not a "unique problem to the black community". I work in the court system in a nearly all-white country with parents whose children are wards of the court due to drug issues, neglect and abuse. Nearly all of these substandard parents are white and there is a huge backlog of cases to work on.
Your statement is simultaneously ignorant and racist and has nothing to do with the current story except that the victim is black. You have no evidence about the parenting of anyone in this story. I wonder if your own parents taught you your obvious racial prejudice.
@AllPeople......the males (I will not call them "Fathers" or "Men") who ejaculate into these women's vaginas are not likely to change. Sorry, but the females who sleep with these POS are going to need to take the first step and stop sleeping with them....or at least start using birth control. Sounds harsh to some, but it is a fact.
Lets not forget this new generation leaving their kids to be raised by their GP's. I was just in court yesterday and was shocked how many I saw there for hearings to adopt their GKs. The parents are off in the drug world.
Bless this young girls family. Tragic.
Right on Dm57, well said. This is not an exclusively black problem, it is an AMERICAN problem.
DM57 has never said anything well. He is saying that it IS a uniquely black issue, which is why he is not worth paying attention to.
If the shooter is black will the black population FINALLY admit there is a HUGE problem with black on black crime, illegitimacy, low graduation rate, baby daddys, etc. This is NOT a race issue but a race who doesn't want to admit the problems start in your own backyard and CANNOT be blamed on 'the man."
What the hell does this have to do with this story? This is like some going into a Newtown thread and saying,
when will the white population Finally admit there is a HUGE problem with white on white crime, child molesters, murder-suicides, baby daddys, etc...
Pretty stupid, aren't you?
It applies to this story by being in Chicago, the number of black on black crimes there, reported gang involvment and territorrial disputes. Black on black crimes are an issue, and you don't want to take any opportunity, regardless of how obvious, to point it out. If the shooter is white, I bet you'll make it about race then then.
It is the entire issue and you must have your head so far up your azz or you are one more gutless sissy wonder that lives in a gated community so you don't know what you are talking about. First can you read????? The story said it an accidentlal gang shooting. Over half of all muders in the US are by 13% of the population. I would say it is the issue. I hope those aren't to big of numbers for you. I live 90 miles north of Chicago, come ride an inner city bus with me you pond scum piece of trash
semcrae
The shooter is probably American and it occurs to me that the American population should finally admit that there is a HUGE problem with American on American crime.
If the shooter was a gang member it is very likely that he got the gun illegally from someone who purchased the gun legally and sold it to him. Maybe universal background checks and strict laws regarding gun is in order.
Your statement that "This is NOT a race issue but a race who doesn't want to admit the problems start in your own backyard and CANNOT be blamed on 'the man'" is completely racist and it is you and people like you who have the race problem. You also have a judgement problem and a logic problem, but that is perhaps beside the point.
A person would have to be a complete bigot to launch into a racial rant without even knowing the race of the shooter. If you actually did know the race of the shooter, you would still be a bigot ..... just not a bigot without at least some knowledge.
I must say you are on the right track with your statements. There is a huge problem with crime and people "killing their own people". I can see where you are coming from with your statements. Makes total sense to me. It's a terrible tragedy this girl getting shot. It's is a total shame. If a person doesn't know the race of the person and/or have actually saw the person who shot this girl with their own eyes (they can't make it a race issue, assuming someone of another race shot her). Let me make an eye-opening statement. It is correct that when it comes to crime "sometimes we want to see things one-sided" and "not see the whole true picture". There is so much black on black crime it is terrible. Killing your own people. I say to myself when I hear people whine and cry about crimes such as this but they are "killing their own people at the same time". It's sad what this world has come to and it's time those who know and accept the truth for what it is "tell it like it is". Some people don't want to see their own race of people successful. Unless you are "down with them" shall I say. That's how it is with some. I don't believe this girl was targeted by accident at all. She is not the only young black girl gunned down. I came across a story of another girl gunned down (while minding her own business near her home). Why?, because someone did not want to see her be successful. This girl was talented and wanted to get involved in music and never made it to the point she wanted to reach because they killed her first. Yes, she was killed by her own race of people, all for jealousy, truthfully most likely because she wanted to be someone descent and that is not what the others wanted. Instead, they wanted her to have the mentality they did, living the street lifestyle and going down the wrong path, which obviously she did not want to do, that is where she is no longer here now either. I feel like this, the life one chooses to live "that's their problem". Why do you thrive to destroy lives of those who want to live like good human being and become something good in life. Why take the life of another because they choose not to lead the lifestyle you do?? It is so sad what the people of this world have come to.
Here is another example of how things truly are: There are cases where young black males about to go to college and/or other were murdered, why? Because someone did not want them to live and become descent human beings. A total shame. I must say that in this world nowadays people are destroying their own people. What did God and Martin Luther King as well as other people who fought for the rights for others? "Live in a way that the work and struggles they went through for others will not be in vain". Are we doing that, "No". By killing innocent people, your own people, people God created, not you, all the work and struggles, risking their own lives and safety for a better future for others of the world "it is making all the hard work and task of these people from our history appear to have been done in vain".
Do you REALLY believe universal background checks will work? How many criminals do you think buy these guns legally and will have a background check? Only the citizens who want to be able to protect themselves and their families would be obligated to do these checks. I do not want to tell the government that I have a gun. I am a law abiding, hard working, good citizen. It is none of their or anyone elses business.
SRScott
I, for one, believe that background checks will work. I wonder why anyone with a rational mind would doubt that they will help keep guns away from criminals and mentally ill people.
The real solution is universal background checks along with laws that prevent people who buy guns legally from selling them to someone who can't pass a background check. It is absolutely legal right now for a person to buy a dozen assault weapons at one time in Arizona and never having to account for where those weapons went.
Furthermore, it is easy for someone who cannot pass a background check to go to a gun show and buy a weapon from a private party. Closing that loophole is only common sense.
People also buy guns on line without background checks. Do you suggest that all of those buyers are "law abiding citizens"?
Along with the nationwide background check, I think every gun owner should carry liability insurance.
Forget the guns. It's the drugs and gangs, focus on that, otherwise you are wasting your time.
Forget the guns?????? Are you a moron?????? Did you fail to notice that this girl was killed WITH A GUN!
Don---- You know that moron word is on the liberals no use list, I expect an apology. This girl was killed by a gangbanger not a gun.
Dot---- What's the chances that the guy who shot this girl will carry liability insurance. These people don't follow laws. This gun issue is a big POLITICAL issue now and Congress will pass some law that may do a miniscule amount of good but it will mostly affect law abiding citizens who own guns. People like the guy who killed this girl will not be affected in any way because they probably never followed a law or rule in their life. It's the drugs and the gangs.
dandaman
You get no apology. After all, there was no direct insult, only a question asking if you are a moron. And you still don't believe that poor girl was killed with a gun .... I guess that answers the question.
Just to clarify for you, since you obviously have trouble with rational thought. The girl was killed WITH A GUN USED BY A PERSON. Maybe that person was a gang banger, maybe not, but it is almost a sure thing that he got that gun from some "law abiding citizen" who purchased the gun legally and sold it WITH NO BACKGROUND CHECK to someone who should not have a gun.
I figured I wouldn't get an apology a liberal would never apologize to a guy like me. You would probably apologize to people like the shooter though. You are blaming the gun, I blame the shooter. The shooter has to be eliminated and the drugs have to be eliminated because that is what brings on the shootings. I don't know what brought this guy to the place where he fires a gun into a crowd but I believe the only answer is for parents and schools and neighbors getting involved in kids lives. Kids need parents to guide them as they grow up and teach them right from wrong, teachers also. When you have a kid you are responsible for them, you can't walk away from that responsibility. This guy is responsible for what he did and it wasn't the guns fault.
Dan
This is foolishness. Of course I blame the shooter. I also blame whoever sold this shooter the gun. I blame the NRA for fighting against universal background checks. I blame the gun owners who will not compromise on laws that require them to be responsible with their gun rights.
I never said I blame the gun. That is a tired old line used by gun rights advocates that makes no sense. "Guns don't kill people; people kill people". Liberals do not blame guns, but only a bonehead would deny that a gun is an important part of this killing equation. The other important part of the equation is the shooter. No one can ignore either one if they have any intention of preventing the unacceptable number of gun deaths in this country.
The laws we advocate are all about people's responsibilities for guns. We want universal background checks on PEOPLE, not on guns. We want to stop PEOPLE from making straw purchases of guns and passing those guns into the hands of criminals. We want to prevent PEOPLE from buying assault weapons and large capacity magazines not because we are worried that the gun will be a mass murder but because a PERSON needs to be able to shoot lots of bullets in a short time span to accomplish that MASS MURDER.
Do you understand now? Laws are for PEOPLE, not for guns.
were they going to the welfare office?
Don't hold your breath waiting.
Truly sad.
Don't think the money will bring the killer out.
Too many with the thought "We'll take care of it".
Typical! Rather than come forward and do the right thing, buy it with money. Seems to be a Democratic solution, keep throwing money at it, touble is, it's not theirs.
Your sentence doesn't make sense. What is the subject of your sentence? It's the police who put up the money, but it is not the police who need to "come forward." Likewise, it is not the shooter who is "buy[ing] it with money." What exactly is your complaint? A "Democratic solution"? You cannot even state the problem clearly!
It's OK darrell. She clearly knows what you're talking about but as a limp wristed liberal fruit cake she has to pretend to be smarter than you by correcting grammar, punctuation and spelling etc.
If she didn't post something as idiotic and typical as her post above, she would have nothing to post at all. It is all too obvious that liberals would prefer to say something and prove they are stupid than say nothing and keep us wondering.
Oh, and to amused liberal idiot muse herself: The "police money" was taken from tax payers. Throwing money at a problem or taking more money from the tax paying citizens is THE EPITOME of democratic solutions. Notice how you never offered a solution or rebuttal of substance? TYPICAL DEMOCRAT.
DrAlchemy
You are an insulting, boring, low information blowhard. The reward is provided through donations, not by the police. Why not find out what is going on before you launch into a wide-net attack on liberals.
Your post accomplished nothing to expose yourself as an old white guy with a limited vocabulary and a narrow mind.
Don
Better watch it. "old white guy"? You're starting to sound racist.
As an old white guy I have a little latitude with that comment. It's been many years since I have heard the lame insults that DrAlchemy uses. Limp wrist .... fruit cake .... those were old and tired in the sixties.
Old and tired in the sixties....
Just like don the old white guy. Old and tired then, old and tired now.
You're an old and tired TROLL who is frantically clicking around the news vine looking for a way to to attack my posts. TALK ABOUT OLD!
If it makes it easier you can hit "Control" + "F" and type "alchemy" into the search bar. That way you don't have to fight that glaucoma to troll my comments, the computer can find them for you.
PS I still have more thumbs up than you and so does Darrell.
Naner naner naner ha ha ha ha ha ha
I'm not a troll. I'm calling you out for your racist statements, something that you say you do for entertainment purposes. Your "thumbs up" only reveal that you have a number of racist boneheads that are entertained by racist comments. Congratulations on reaching the lowest common denominator. If you put the "N" word in caps you would draw even more thumbs. Such is the nature of your audience.
Poor don and amused, still lost and confused, forever in a mess, never to know what or who is best! Liberal losers!
While I believe the $40k reward for pointing out the killer is a good start I also feel that the reward amount should keep climbing and the more it increases the greater the likelihood the appropriate criminal will be brought to justice. But I also strongly feel the police need to stop relying on the public to do the job they are being paid to do, waiting for something to fall into their laps, but like flooding that neighborhood with cops on the walking beat to get information, going door to door and asking questions, checking surveilance cameras for many blocks around, etc.
@Jean, If this is gang related, no one is going to talk for fear they'll be next. That is the problem with trying to battle gang violence. And as for your $40K comment, his people should give him up for free and do the right thing.
And tell me Jean, who pays for those cops?? Guess what there is no more money. The cops are making sure that those people just stay in their own neighborhoods. Reality
If the police get too serious in that neighborhood they will be accused of harrassment.
Jean, I agree. Also, why were so many cops at desks???? This may not have happened if they were out on the streets doing "cop" things.
HOWS THOSE STRICT gun laws workin for yalll???
hahahahah yhea criminals follow laws
Strict gun laws only work if every state has them
Almost every murder in massechusetts the guns can be traced to surrounding states with lax gun laws
So STFU with the strict gun laws don't work
always an excuse...
get over it....they dont work
Ban handguns.
Dear the Pendleton family ... Hadiya is in my thoughts and reflections like so many other people up here in Canada. I'm am so sorry for your loss. Try and take comfort in the fact her sweet light has truly touched people from all over the world. Nothing will ever amount to having her back but at least her memory will live on in the change her story will bring. Thinking of you.
Parents should be held responsible for their children's actions, particularly if they are under age. If your child kills someone it is a direct result of your parenting skills, or lack thereof. Keep teenagers under a tight curfew, know who their friends are and who their parents as well. Get involved in their school and do family activities in order to keep them off the streets, otherwise you can pull the same prison sentence they get as an accessory to their crime.
People in these neighborhoods of Chicago where crime is rampant is the problem. They need to get together, find the parents of kids running the streets, band together and have the adult criminals in their neighborhood arrested, they know who they are so why are they protecting them. Make people responsible for their behaviors one way or another.
Inquiry: How can these lowlifes claim they are protecting "their turf" or marking "their turf" (graffiti) when they do not have two wooden nickles to rub together or a place to drop dead? What type of "parent" are raising these numbskulls?
Ghetto parents that like to stay and raise their kids in the ghetto!!!
barry....fix your inner city minority gang problem and the lack of affordable and accesible mental healthcare instead of focusing your attention on legal law abiding firearms owners of all races. senseless death like this should be a wake up call. you and congress should stop being PC as well as the liberal media and focus on the majority of the real cause of this sensless violence. shame on you barry and congress.
Bottom line is that blacks have to change the way they live. Also blacks think it is a dishonor to ostracise. But that is exactly what has to happen to have peace in black neighborhoods. White people do it in a heartbeat. the good must start turning in the bad.
Please don't generalize black people and put us all under one umbrella. I am black and so are a lot of my friends and we are all law abiding citizens and productive members of society. This problem is less of a racial issue and more of a social/economical one.
V,
Then why dont these things happen in the dirt poor white rural areas my family came from? Huh? They have no money, but they are not killing each other. This does, in some way, have soomething to do with the race of the poor people involved. I do agree that economic status influences things a bit, but so does race.
V isn't black.
No black person needs to qualify his credentials by stating "I have several black friends"..... dude if you were black, having black friends would be a no brainer.
The umbrella stays and fortunately it's big enough for 80% of the black population in chicago.
In that case you can make the generalization that all serial killers are middle class white males since most (not all) are but at the end of the day what does that solve? Nothing really. My point is why bring race into the conversation? All it does is distract people from the real problem. People of every gender, race, and walk of life commit these types of senseless crimes. The blaming a race logic is as flawed as blaming the gun for the shooting and blaming the alcohol for the drunk driver. We need to put aside our petty differences and work together to make America safe place for the upbringing of our youth. The youth is our future and it would be wise if we invested in them.
v.i know of many responsible blacks that are great people.you need to look to decades of welfare fed upon your people since johnsons' great society in 65.look to useless so-called leaders of your race such as jj, al and king louie for a lot of your peoples problems.the great white politicians back then did nothing more than what barry is doing now with hispanics.feed them welfare, hope they breed like rabbits and bring a lifelong supply of voters to those who feed them goodies.
Dr. A,
I am black and not all black people have a bunch of black friends. My gf is black and she grew up in Connecticut where her family was one of a few black families in the area. Needless to say most of her friends growing up where not black. Just though I give you some food for thought...
And you have a black girlfriend. Qualifier #2.... again.... no brainer.
LN,
I agree completely. Handouts are not the solution. That is just kicking the can down the road waiting for the next generation to solve the issue. Before any meaningful reform can come we have to teach responsibility and a good work ethic to those who would opt for the easy way out. That's a lesson that can be learned across all races.
Dr. A,
Let me get this straight because I said most of my friends were black and that my gf is black I must not be a black person. Hmmmm with logic like that you should run for congress. You would blend right in ;)
v... thank you. i have a black neighbor for almost 5 years who is a great guy. there is a black and white couple in our neighborhood that have been here for years and take great care of their property. i grew up around ashland and armitage in chicago and watched minorities destroy my grandmothers neighborhood and property in the early 70's. i worked on chicago HUD homes for a client and will not anymore due to fear of my life and not being able to protect myself legally against the gangbangers firepower.wouldn't be worth it anyway, if i shot one in self defense i would be labled a racist murderer.its ashame how the human garbage in a race makes people think that way about the majority of a certain race i myself being guilty at times, but the liberal media as well as race baiters like jj could do a heck of a lot better of a job bringing people together instead of instigating hate for their own agendas whether it be greed or power.
LN,
I am so glad you see the big picture. I tears me up when Al and co always try to drag racism into everything. Some cases are legitimate but most cases it is not. I personally believe they continue to do it to try to stay relevant in modern times but all they are doing is causing a divide. Its sad to hear that you cant do work on Chicago HUD homes but I completely understand. First and foremost its not worth putting your life in danger for any client. The way the laws are structured in Chicago they make it almost impossible for law abiding citizens to defend themselves. I wish more people could see the bigger picture like you. But that day will only happen when people start thinking for themselves and quit taking orders from the magic talking box in their living rooms.
I should run for congress. As a democrat my low education voter base would ensure job security for the next 20 years.
LBJ's programs helped more poor whites than blacks. How people with computers can be so misinformed is beyond me. Learn your history. Ban handguns.
Since when did this poor girl's tragedy turn into a racial debate?? Why don't you just mourn the girl and take this conversation somewhere else. And Dr Alchemy, I realize that by posting this I will be giving you more of the attention you have been asking for, and I loathe myself for even posting this. I am going to anyway! Go post your comments in a place that somebody cares what you have to say. Your posts here are totally inappropriate.! They are self centered and self indulgent. You love to hear yourself talk. Go away!!!!!
Sadly, story's like this one will continue to be the the result of a decaying society. The real culprit here is bad parenting. I would bet my life savings that the person who did the shooting is a teen of similar age. Where was that individuals parents to teach them the difference between right and wrong, to guide their moral compass, and to teach them that you have to take responsibilities for your actions To fix the problems plaguing American streets you must first fix the problems plaguing American homes.
Condolences to the family and I hope the killer gets brought to justice reward or not.
very well stated i wish more people realized this
its not necessarily bad parenting, my parents had no business taking care of a rock no less a child, i didnt turn into a criminal because i saw from the start what white trash they are and refused to be anything like them, the difference is that i have sense and sensibility and conscience and empathy they do not.
i truely hope it is not gun buy back money
Yep right, just hope someone gets that money and whoever did it gets fried.
Strict gun laws only work if every state has them
Almost every murder in massechusetts the guns can be traced to surrounding states with lax gun laws
So STFU with the strict gun laws don't work
yeah and you sissy azz liberals live in your gated communities and scream for increased police patrols if anything happens close to your neighborhood. Listen you weasel, do nothing gutless wonder, I make 6 figures, which means I pay a lot in taxes for weasels like you, I speak 3 languages, have advanced degrees, I was in the Peace Corp, and I voted for this president twice but I still like guns and I will put them where the sun doesn't shine before you will take them away from me so you and your limp wristed little friends go hide in your gated community
Such a tradgedy for such a beautiful, innocent girl, in a prior mob controlled, now gang infested culture in Chicago, where only the outlaws have guns . Crime, bribery , murder is common place.
Now, same leaders of cook county are ruling the who country.
dm57, then all that means is youre a disgrace to the peace corps, and wtf do u have against weasels. you must a jew, bc only gold- whorin jews are the ones who need to tout how much money they make, as if 6- digit income makes them an ethical person, and think its supposed to impress anyone. youre a sad bitter mental case, if they reallly did have a psycological check for everyone with guns, yours will certianly be taken away and rightly so, it is smack you in the teeth obvious you have serious mental issues- now go take your thorazine, ive met plenty dopes like you, KNOW THE PRICE OF EVERYTHING AND THE VALUE OF NOTHING.
are you using the same trace the govt used for the fast and furiuos guns
you can't blame the parents but you can blame the government for taking our parental rights now days if your child does something wrong you sit with them and discuss it back when i was a kid dad pulled out the belt and you knew never to do it again so sad so many innocent lives will be taken until we the people take our rights back from the government.
youre a violent psycho, anyone who assaults a child for any reason belongs in prison.
Now, if you are in this thugs gang, you just gotta be thinking - if I wait and let the reward go up, I get more money when I turn him in. But if somebody else grabs it first, I get nothing. Definitely playing poker here - how long can you bluff before somebody calls the hand? And they will - for 40K, some of the bro's will sell their mother AND sister!