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Nancy Gonzalez, with Ronell Wilson in inset.
A pregnant prison guard has been arrested for allegedly having sex with a convicted cop killer serving time for gunning down two NYPD detectives on Staten Island in 2003, sources familiar with the investigation tell NBC 4 New York.
The 29-year-old Bureau of Prisons employee, Nancy Gonzalez, was arrested Tuesday at her home on Long Island. Sources also tell NBC 4 New York that both Gonzalez and Ronell Wilson have made statements to investigators saying that the baby is his child.
Gonzalez is eight months pregnant. The charge is unlawful sexual abuse on a ward; it was not immediately known if she had a lawyer.
Court papers say that in a recorded call to another inmate at the federal prison in Brooklyn, Gonzalez allegedly said, "I took a chance because I was so vulnerable and wanted to be loved and now I am carrying his child."
Gonzalez allegedly said during that same December conversation that she "kind of got sucked into his world" and that she "felt like, well, why not give him a child as far as giving him some kind of hope."
Wilson was convicted in December 2006 of shooting detectives James Nemorin and Rodney Andrews in the back of their heads in a car March 10, 2003 on Hannah Street in Staten Island.
Authorities say in court papers that Gonzalez engaged in the romantic relationship from March to August of last year, and that she is seen on video in the federal prison spending several minutes at a time with the inmate in a vacant activity room.
Court papers also say she is seen on video standing at his cell door for "lengthy periods of time while the other inmates are locked into their cells at night."
During another recorded conversation with the other inmate, Gonzalez allegedly said she "just basically got wrapped up in something that I should not have got wrapped up," and described Wilson as an inmate so high-profile that "when he farts it makes the news."
She also allegedly expressed fears about what she would say to her future child about how he was conceived.
"I know what is going to be said about me," she said. "I know that for me as a parent, how am I going to explain this to this little boy? ... Mommy got wrapped up ... And then the opposite end is with a person who took lives. So how do you explain that?"
Investigators first learned of the alleged relationship from other inmates, who told them they could see Gonzalez and the inmate "hugging and kissing" in the activity room.
Another inmate reported that he also saw the inmate standing at his cell, with the door propped open, exposing his genitals as Gonzalez left the cell, court papers say.
After receiving the tips from the inmates, investigators began reviewing video of Gonzalez at work.
Investigators say the relationship between Gonzalez and Wilson ended in August, and that she became involved with another inmate in September, telling him in recorded phone calls the details of how she became pregnant by Wilson.
Wilson was sentenced to death in the killing of the two police officers, but the sentence was thrown out in 2010 by an appeals court.
A new jury must decide his fate. But the trial's penalty phase has been put off as Wilson's lawyers seek to convince a judge that he's ineligible for the death penalty because he's mentally disabled.
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First! First to almost puke at another dingbat woman pulling the Female Card. She had a job to do - a job that many women do well - and she knew what she was doing when she went after this guy (what did he do - pull her into his cell?), so STFU about being a vulnerable, unloved little victim!
No woman who is not a complete idiot has sex with an imprisoned murderer!
This is also a crime against the child. Who wants parents like these? The poor thing needs to be taken away from this twit and raised in a sane, healthy environment. What a mess!
Favorite artist - Rihanna.
This woman is, without a doubt, one of the biggest idiots I've ever read about.
Sleeping with a man who shot two detectives, shows his privates through the bars of a cell, and is trying to get his conviction overturned because he's mentally challenged?? That's not desperate that's just plain old pathetic.
Poor little kid. I hope he is raised by someone else and is never told the circumstances surrounding his conception.
You need a license to fish, drive a car,...
What a shame.
Is this Obama's fault too???
This woman's an idiot, no doubt about it. But slow down on the misogyny and/or bitterness. She's the exception to the rule, not the rule itself and if you think there aren't male guards out there pulling the same @!$%# with female prisoners you're highly naive. Yet I bet your response to that wouldn't be an outcry about "stupid man, pulling the man card". It would probably be more along the lines of, "boys will be boys", which is a straight up excuse. The gender is secondary to the incident, not the cause of it. People, regardless of their sex, do stupid @!$%#. Focus on her actions, as you would with a man, not her gender.
It's,
Of course it is. Duh. ;)
Just disturbing. I feel for the child that is soon to be born. Hopefully he or she is taken out of this situation completely. The guard wanted to grant a child to someone who took someone else's babies away forever. And a convicted cop killer no less. Where is the honor anymore? This story reminds me of the Maury Povich show. And what is to come of the baby once born? Funny how neither parent seems to care. Trash.
Garbage, nothing but garbage. Eradicate that crap before it gives birth.
This is what happens when you let yourself get too close and forget which side of the law you're on. She's a law officer. She should have kept everything business. I think the media isn't helping by putting your business out on the street for the whole world to form inaccurate misconceptions and prejudice that needlessly cloud the circumstances and the people involved.
@Amused
If children had a choice of who their parents were, there would probably be a lot less kids....How about that one? Oh no, he idiot!
@Sarah
Two wrongs don't make a right.
As dirty and disgusting as prisons and the prisoners are normally are the thought of having sex under those conditions are nauseating. Furthermore she had sex with a convicted murderer who will never see freedom again, knowing she was risking arrest and losing her job. There was nothing positive about this experience.
What the hell was she thinking?
Any man that has the thought capacity to talk a woman out of her panties is mentally fit to stand trial.
I doubt there are 2 active brain cells between the two....both should be in jail.
It's just nature at its best, folks. See what happens when you put women in overcrowded male prisons??? It should be a no-no, but oh well, women must be included into absolutely everything men do, no matter how irrational or what the consequences.
Agreed, so long as you acknowledge that the male guards pulling the same crap are also exceptions to the rule.
Probably not, since male guards don't usually end up saying, "I took a chance because I was so vulnerable and wanted to be loved ...." On the other hand, I suspect there won't be a lot of women lining up to say she raped him because he was a prisoner and she was in a position of authority.
Denver,
Of course the males who do this are also the exception. And of course they probably wouldn't be talking about their vulnerability. My statement was in regards to what OTHER people would be saying if the roles were reversed, "boys will be boys, of course he's gonna try to get some". Which is an excuse, as opposed to "stupid woman" or "playing the woman" card, which is an insult to all of us.
As far as rape??? That's interesting. He could definitely attempt to make a case for coercion. You never know.
I need a shower, this is so gross.
Amused Muse , I am a liberal, and I agree with every d*m word you said!!
amused muse:
completely agree w/ you.
sarah:
it's not misogyny if you just make a comment about how you're sick and tired of some women pulling the "oh, poor me-i'm just a woman" crap. tired of seeing women get off lightly for crimes when men receive tougher penalties.
I wonder which one is going to say they are the "victim".
While people here are bickering over why she pulled the poor excuse of wanting to be loved by a murderer, and apparently without knowing about online dating sites, something even more outrageous and offensive caught my eye...
According to the article:
"Gonzalez allegedly said during that same December conversation that she "kind of got sucked into his world" and that she "felt like, well, why not give him a child as far as giving him some kind of hope."
Wilson was convicted in December 2006 of shooting detectives James Nemorin and Rodney Andrews in the back of their heads in a car March 10, 2003 on Hannah Street in Staten Island."
My reaction?
Great! Why not give a murderous thug, hope! Just like he did for the people he killed! And while we are at it, why not give a child to a cop killing murderous thug and spread his lineage to the next generation? I don't see what could possibly go wrong, you twit! My gosh, that woman is insane! I'm thinking abortion might not be a bad thing here. This may seem cruel, but the child of that convict and that woman? I think the world would be better off without it. Still not convinced?
Another disturbing bit from the article:
"Investigators say the relationship between Gonzalez and Wilson ended in August, and that she became involved with another inmate in September, telling him in recorded phone calls the details of how she became pregnant by Wilson."
There is simply no way this ends well.
Sounds like she's overly friendly with at least three inmates just by this article alone. Skank.
Thanks, TruthYes, I am a liberal too...but I am definitely Old School when it comes to some things! Thanks too, kiki-2629687.
ItIsWhat!I!Is - If the children had a choice as to who their parents were, there would be fewer screwed up kids...how about that? Not to mention fewer screwed up "parents."
She was STUPID but not DUMB and here is exactly why.
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DUMB is when you really did not know it was going to go wrong, but it does.
STUPID is when you knew it was going to go wrong and you do it anyway.
This women is absolutely, with out a doubt, STUPID.
She can plea all she likes but if I was on the jury, STUPIDITY is not a defense I would tolerate and my vote would be guilty, no matter how you spin it with lawyers.
She needs to be removed from her position in that prison. Maybe transfer her to an all womans Prison. It's obvious she can't be trusted around men.
Oh she will be transfered to an all womens prison alright, as an inmate.
"But the trial's penalty phase has been put off as Wilson's lawyers seek to convince a judge that he's ineligible for the death penalty because he's mentally disabled."
Does she know how to pick a father for her child, or what?
A mentally retarded cop killer.
She should get three and a half to five for bad taste.
This is not an exception to the rule. Baby mamas are all over America having babies with the scum of the Earth and bringing more demon seeds into the world. And, these women are not fooled by these guys, they like that they are bad guys.
Then women whine about bad fathers, child-support payments not coming, no respect, and their lives in poverty. Well, just another example of asking for it.
Being a prison guard with a prisoner is bad, but she would be just as stupid if they were both free. She should be banned from any govt assistance or benefits for this demon seed.
Just another typical liberal..... Afterall, no wonder they want abortions to be paid for by the public. I think its time you liberals fess up to being the "screw up" part of society. Why should conservatives always have to pay for your messes?
Oh come on! One look at him and I totally get it! Who wouldn't jump on that??!?
Misogyny will disappear when women receive the same sentence for the same crime.
I drowned my four children in the bathtub because I was on my period...! Wah! Wah! Wah!
That's going to be one good looking kid.
What was she thinking? She is thinking that she's going to keep the kid.
That she's going to parent it, when she won't even think about the consequences of her actions. I call that if she isn't put into an all women prison, with all women guards, that that little boy is going to have a lot of half-siblings, if he doesn't have some already.
Wow, what woman wouldn't want a piece of that..? /sarc
I blame the guard more so than the inmate, even if their sexes had been reverse. If nothing more than for the professionalism expected of a prison guard.
Horny woman ... horny man ...and a little bit of time .. it's no different in jail .. except she has a lot of choices .. he didn't!
A man behind bars for the rest of his life would have sex with a cobra if you defanged it .. (the cobra is far safer then most women) and this "She the exception" is ridiculous ... for every man having sex (unless he's gay) there's a woman on the other end of the stick!
Is this story even worth a comment? Who gives a rats ass about these two people actions?
The tragedy is another unwanted child is brought into the world .... and he'll probably end up in the same place he was conceived!
Another episode of .... "As The Stomach Churns ...."
Just think, when I read the article, I thought she belonged to that stupid party Bobby Jindal talked about!!
Next time just shine the knob, no pregnancy there......
The last thing she should be bitching about is a child....She very well could have gotten HIV/AIDS does she even know?......I hope they test the child and make sure it is safe. Take the child and place it in a loving home. The child didn't ask for this and needs to be far removed from it.
It comes down to what is in the best interest of the child & she can go on making her mistakes.
unhappy, you seem mentality detached from reality. maybe another pill or three will help you through your sadness, conservatives paying for liberals is somewhat of a serious laugh these days.
It happens a lot more than you think it does.
Oh good grief!
Guess the guys on e-harmony just weren't up to her standards.
At least she had the decency to end the relationship, before beginning a new one with another inmate. Classy that one.
Hey! She was vulnerable. He is a cop killing guy whose own attorneys describe as mentally incompetent. And once you look at his picture you just gotta give her a bye. I mean how could she help herself?
And then on to the next winner.
And she wonders how she's gonna explain this to her child?
Classy? Oh, yeah. And gonna make a great Mom.
"I know what is going to be said about me," she said. "I know that for me as a parent, how am I going to explain this to this little boy? ... Mommy got wrapped up ... And then the opposite end is with a person who took lives. So how do you explain that?"
Despicable human being ,not to mention the state had trust in her with the most vulnerable position/ job.......citizens 's security .That tells you how incompetent government officials are in selecting people for the right job .Who gave this woman that job ,she is a perfect candidate for deportation to Guadalajara's woods .
Makes me vomit .........
What was she thinking? She is thinking that she's going to keep the kid.
I don't believe there it was enough brain in this women to think......
this is a weakness women have, to be less loyal to their group. of course not all women act on it, but its an observation that is valid, just like advising a child that a stray dog is more dangerous than a stray bunny. you see it in the french women who became lovers with the occupying nazi troops, or the vietnamese women who had sex with black american troops. three out of four mixed marriages are white women with black men. most divorces are started by women. ironically, contrary to popular myth, women have always been more promiscuous. back in the conservative 50's, early work with blood typing showed that 25% of the men listed on the birth certificate couldnt be the father. and as women become more independent economically, you can expect most women to be single parents with children by multiple fathers who they never marry. many women are not even loyal to their children, and abandon them more and more frequently. many hispanic girls here in california date blacks even though most hispanics dont like blacks. "papi, this is rastus. remember, hes the one who shot my brother in the school riot last week." there was a prison guard here who was married to a young handsome fellow police officer. she was not only screwing an inmate held for a murder trial, she got busted trying to hire a guy to kill a witness against him. ah, women, you cant live with em, you cant kill em when they deserve it.
The next "intimate relationship" she has is going to have is with a broomstick wielded by Big Bertha at the women's lockup. Have fun with that one skank...at least you won't end up pregnant.
What the hell does being liberal or not have to do with your opinion on this this story?! There is NO political crap in it! It's right or wrong.... and still, some people have to say, "I'm a liberal but....."
stfu with that f-cksh-t... gah dang....
politics... gettin' old y'all
The real tragedy is that once this blows over, she'll be signing up for all the liberal gubment handouts and programs and the American tax payer will have to pay for this low life to be raised.
So essentially, the tax payer has to keep up the scum bag father, the scum bag mother, and the scum bag kid.
This is why conservatives preach responsibility and for you to pay your own way. We care about the poor, but we're sick of paying for low life losers like these.
He must have been a Romeo with words cause when I saw his picture I just wanted to laugh at his 3 dreadlocks. Women really must see something differently in men.
@antireagen, I hope you get treatment for your delusions. You seem to have a hangup about women and men of differing ethnicities. You apeared to leave out the Vietnamese women that had sex with white Americans. You made no mention of Latinas that date white men. Why is that? Hmmmm....
Is she going to try to collect child support from the father....O that's right we pay now.
Why would she have unprotected sex with someone convicted of killing a fellow Law Enforcement Officer. She might just be a corrections guard but she is still LEO.She wants to reward this killer with a baby?Her brain was right out to lunch because there is no way she thought this through.
Can i say what everybody knows already ?? Just another stupid n@#$er !
bride of chucky...
Carryingconcealed, with ignorant words like yours against women when it comes to men in general perhaps you should surrender your weapons that you conceal. I bet you like slapping around women...it makes you feel more like a man, huh? Perhaps that so-called conceal weapon you carry makes you feel like a man because you are no man in any other way. You are pretty sick in your words.
PMS and PPD are no joke when it comes to chemical imbalances in some women. Why it only happens in some women and not in others is still unclear. Do your homework about it before knocking people. Neither is a joke for ignorant men like you! Perhaps your mother should have swallowed that night you were conceived!!
PAWS93--
That baby will be born innocent, unbiased, with unlimited possibilities.
If the state does the right thing and terminates this filthy whore's parental rights then this baby will have a chance to be adopted by a good family who will love him unconditionally, provide for him and give him the opportunities every child deserves to reach their full potential.
As for the parents, I'd shoot them both myself, if I could get away with it.
Stupid woman, I know a guy that was married for 21 years and his wife left him for an inmate at the prison where she worked. The guy got out of prison and left her the next day. Stupid woman.
What did she do then? Just curious. I hope that the husband found someone else more worthy of him.
She's lucky that the scumbag left instead of killing her. These kind of relationships don't end well.
That kid has a brrriiiight future
The whole inmate appeal thing is rooted in the tired old bad boy lust phenomenon that many women have. And that is rooted in their own insecurities and lack of self worth.
A terrible shame. A little genuine confidence goes a long way.
There has to be countless better places to find love than a god damn prison. My word...
I get the whole "bad boy" thing, at least as a fantasy - I'm writing and sharing online some fanfic based on a James Bond nemesis (Emile Leopold Locque - remember him?), but the guy has to have some class, some looks, some finesse, some complexity. This crotch-grabber Wilson looks like someone played a joke on his hair while he was drunk!
The "eww" factor has just about reached n=infinity in this case!
Maybe the guy is just a smooth talker? Some women fall for guys by what they say, lies or not.
Amused Muse, They have kids together so I think they see each other now and then. I don't know if he'll ever trust another woman again, It only hapend a couple years ago. I do know that her own siblings don't want anything to do with her anymore because of it. The whole thing is unbelievable, But true.
Lock up that idiot woman and take the child and place it with a sane, responsible family who would cherish having a child.
Give her a choice : get spayed or stay behind bars.
This is gross beyond description.
And we worry about doing Psych exams on the PUBLIC having guns? Do prison guards go through Psych exams before hiring?
Lock up that idiot woman and take the child and place it with a sane, responsible family who would cherish having a child.
Who in the right state of mind will raise a product of "killer and a stupid broad " ,I'm sorry this is degradable to the whole society we live in .They were observed making it out in the past 8 months ...........nothing was done by the officials ,does this women have more children .....please sterilize her immediately and lock her up with the monster in 2x2 cell without the lights .Huh .............
The family that ends up with this child probably won't know about his history. It makes me kind of sick to think about. There's some mixed evidence that some people are genetically predisposed to be killers, and mental illness is in many cases hereditary. I worry about other children in the home that this child ends up in. Maybe foster care, where he will have access to numerous other small children, perhaps in overcrowded conditions with parents stretched too thin to fully supervise? Hopefully there are some early interventions in place to get and keep this kid on the right track, but the system is exploding at the seams with kids just like this, and there isn't enough funding in the world to "fix" them all. This is a tragedy for the kid, and for all of society. There's a type of reverse eugenics happening right now, where the dregs of society breed exponentially while those who have their heads on straight are responsibly limiting their procreation.
mentally ill government employees
you are sooo right!!!!
that's why the country is in a mess!!!
abort the fetus
She's 8 months along; There are almost NO doctors in this country would do an abortion this late & even the few that do, some won't do it unless there is something seriously wrong with the baby or if the mother's life is in danger. The baby would suffer horribly in the process: Saline abortions, otherwise known as "saline amniocentesis," "salting out," or a "hypertonic saline" abortion, are later-term abortions used after 16 weeks of pregnancy, when enough fluid has accumulated in the amniotic fluid sac surrounding the baby. Saline abortion is a type of instillation abortion. A needle is inserted through the mother’s abdomen and amniotic fluid is withdrawn and replaced with a solution of concentrated salt. The baby breathes in, swallowing the salt, and is poisoned. The chemical solution also causes painful burning and deterioration of the baby’s skin. Usually, after about an hour, the child dies. The mother goes into labor about 35 hours after instillation and delivers a dead, burned and shriveled baby. Risks include: uncontrolled blood clotting, severe hemorrhage, central nervous system damage, seizures, coma and death. Babies have been born alive after a saline abortion. In your mind, is this is ok to do to an innocent child??
fine, you go raise the loser baby. let's see you put your words into action, hypocrite.
Loser baby? How can a baby be a "loser"?? YOU are the loser Yus, if you see no problem doing that to an innocent child. Maybe karma will swoop around & award you the same fate you are wishing upon this baby.
Why? The baby didn't do anything.
Yus, there was nothing hypocritical at all about what bezsenny52 said in response to your ridiculous statement, if you want to call it that. Even people who are ok with abortion continuing to be legal would disagree with what you said in this situation. The mother is way too far along in the pregnancy for an abortion...
Your first comment really makes me wonder if you said it because you are just trying to get a rise out of pro lifers on the board (maybe a dem with a very poor sense of humor) but then your second statement made it somewhat clear that you don't care about children in bad situations after they are born (maybe a repub). Or, are you just a callous, ignorant, racist SOB who has something against a baby with black and hispanic heritage?...
Either way, grab a dictionary and look up the word "hypocrite" and learn the meaning before you misuse it again.
you want to get real about welfare, stop this nonsense and eliminate freeloading babies.
you want to keep them breeding babies with impunity, you better reach in your pocket and give more to the welfare systems
you complain obama is king of welfare and you turn around and say don't kill the baby, that makes you hypocrite (this is repub position btw, not necessarily yours, so i'd like to hear from repubs what is it they really want).
Babies cannot get jobs (unless they are models) nor care for themselves; Therefore ALL of them are "freeloading" whether they are on welfare or not. Eliminate them? So we should put all poor children to death? Is that what you're saying, Yus? Human life can be valued by $$$'s??
Pro-choice cuts both ways. Women cannot be prevented from having abortions nor can they be forced to.
You may be happier living in China.
Well, Yus.... I am a republican and I think you are a heartless, creepy moron!!!
Are you saying this about all babies, or just little brown ones?
I'm willing to bet your life, you're probably republican, and pro-life, as long as it's blonde, with blue eyes, correct?
Seriously why the hell can't people get over their freaking sterotyping one political party or another??? I'm frankly fed up with it. No repub or dem is exactly as described by moshuluu and others. Myself I'm independent because I can't get behind the sterotype of either party. There's good and bad in ALL!!!!!!! I think people swhould not be using abortion as birth control nor should they be aborting after 3-4 months. I also believe it's a woman's body and choice and each individual should make a completely informed and RESPONSIBLE choice. Society as a whole needs to grow a few more values, respect for their bodies and themselves and be having RESPONSIBLE SAFE SEX in the first place. This particular child is well beyond a safe or moral abortion. The best thing that could happen is that it be adopted by a loving caring family, that neither parent be allowed any knowledge of it's whereabouts, that pops stays in prison for good and that mommy dumbest be FIRED, convicted, forced into counseling and firmly encourge to NEVER procreate again!!!!!!!!!!
Actually... you could say that the baby is already a loser... through no fault of his/her own
lol
"Aw, shut up, silly woman,"
Said that reptile, with a grin.
"You knew damn well I was a snake,
Before you brought me in."
Ok, seriously yeah its a little odd that she would do that but is this seriously worth the tax dollars being used to prosecute? Like there isn't anything bigger at hand...
Really dude? If someone has broken the law then it's always worth it to prosecute.
Besides, this wasn't just jaywalking, this guy could have potentially been using her for whatever nefarious intentions he had that may have ended up being a stepping stone to much bigger crimes, including the murder of guards or inmates. Don't pretend that this is just "no big deal". If you can't envision the myriad ways in which this could have gone incredibly wrong then you're incredibly naive.
They have women guarding male prisoners?. Do they have men guarding women prisoners? My gosh, well what do you expect. However I am not really sure why she is being arrested. She should be fired, but not arrested.
My wife weighs a buck twenty all wet and she's a pretty hot little number to boot. She was a prison psychologist. One of her duties was to participate in shakedowns (male prison). They had her on the team because she was good at interrogating the inmates. Very scary stuff being out in the cell block with an unrestrained inmate.
Yes, they do have men guarding female prisoners. Men were working in women's correctional facilities before women were.
There was a case that involved a victim close to my family - a young man was murdered by the boyfriend of a former prison guard. She, while employed as a guard, met this winner (in prison for molesting a twelve-year-old) and fell in love with him. Then she enticed another man (the victim) to her house, where her BF shot him. She and this Einstein both dismembered the body. True story.
She was sent to prison but pulled the "I Was Scared So I Obeyed" Female Card and got a reduced sentence. She is out.
I don't think it's a waste of tax money to prosecute this current idiot - if she'll shack up with cop-killers, what else will she do once she has his Prison Trophy?
One more child for the tax payers to take care of.
Actually it's 2 more freeloaders on our taxpayers roll, the child when it's born and her since she's now fired. Not only will they be on welfare, they'll be on an ObamaCare Health Plan payed for by you and me. Isn't it great living in this free county we call the United States of Obama. 4 more years of freebes for those who don't want to contribute to society.
I'd like to know what your plan is to relieve us of these freeloaders. please, have at it, and no i'm not being cynical coz i dont want to pay for these monster losers, i really dont. i would go as far as gassing all of them together, how about you.
Yus, Move to another country where they do away with lives with no explanation. You don't belong here with those kind of thoughts.
If only anybody was going to "take care of" this poor, poor baby. This kid doesn't stand a chance. Now we get to watch the cycle repeat itself.
I hope to God somebody manages to rescue this kid and parent him/her. The kids don't ask for this--they're the ones who suffer for the stupidity of these adults.
damn girl, you could not do any better than that guy? man what an ugly SOB! i hope that poor kid does not look like his / her father. geeze..
She is probably a dike who couldn't find anyone on the outside to get her preg
You know that is nonsense. No matter what a woman looks like there is always some dude willing to hit it.
lmao
Dude's bang anything and everything which is why America is loaded with women and girls possessing over-inflated ego's...
Abort the little nigglet !
At 8 months pregnant?
Do the world a favor & abort yourself, please.
yeah, got a problem with that Mr Todd Aiken? or is it Mourdoch? how about having you pay for the baby since you are so in love with all them legitimate babies?
Yus, it's not the baby's fault when they have douche bag parents. The child didn't ask to be brought into the world.
"Mommy got wrapped up ... And then the opposite end is with a person who took lives. So how do you explain that?"
Stupid. Selfish. Weak. Desperate. Lonely. Pathetic.
Take your pick.
G) All of the above.
H) Attention hungry: (she) described Wilson as an inmate so high-profile that "when he farts it makes the news."
Getting pregnant with any one less-profile wouldn't make the news.
what is the problem don't they have a plan B vending machine in prison
Before you can get Plan B, you have to actually have a plan--something that was sadly lacking here.
Gross gross gross. Can you imagine having unprotected sex with a guy in prison doing life. Do you think he might be HIV+, not to mention the STDs? She doesn't have to worry about explaining herself to the child, the baby will never spend a day with her, no way a court is going to think she is fit to be a parent with her incredibly poor judgement. She is truly too stupid to be a parent.
First Robert 1721548 is a racist moron, but I do not think the mental defect defense is going to fly, if the prisoner was smart enough to get some illicit sex in a federal pen.
Every prison employee is given classes on the types of things that inmates will do to pass the time in prisons. In general, it's called "The Game". There's a whole psychological culture behind this and it's not limited to being female and feeling "lonely and vulnerable". Some of the things inmates can get guards to do once they are 'turned' is pretty amazing. Money, drugs, cell phones, sex, attacks on other inmates/prison employees--the list goes on.
That's pretty interesting, Gator.
Should prisons institute some sort of "buddy system" for guards? It seems that she was left to her own devices a lot. Would regular checking in with a "buddy" help?
Is there a psychological profile of people who are likely to be "turned"?
Yes, it's called professionalism. Human beings have the propensity to become attached. Ever heard of "Stockholm syndrome"? The buddy system exist to prevent just such events, so gator has a point.
Yes, there is. The profile can be obtained by giving the employee at test called the MMPI-2. The results of the inventory have to be combined with a series of personal interviews. It's a very lengthy and expensive process. The results can be difficult to interpret. However, having the potential to be 'turned' is not the same as actually being turned, so there are legal implications to applying it to any potential or current employees.
Most well-run prisons do have checks in place to try to prevent cases like these. The problem is that our prisons are so large and the staff are relatively few.
Better hiring standards would help a great deal. You have the watch the ones hired from the ghetto a little more closer.
Of all the men in the world to have a child with and she picks a murderer.She obviously has some mental health issues in order to be sucked into his world as she stated.I think that male prisoners should have male guards and women prisoners women guards.
Ugly people finding love behind bars....comical! Great movie idea! And c'mon, what is two disgusting trash living-loser type people to do who need love anyways, right??? They always find each other and the rest of us get to enjoy the grotesqueness of it all!
Next, Can I just say what everyone here is actually thinking: a n*&ger and a s*&ck screwing is so classic it deserves this kind of attention because there is no where else for this kind of sorry a*& story to go except down in history with all the other ugly f*&ks that ever existed.
This whole story is pathetic. People involved are pathetic. All i can wonder is about a poor pathetic tax payer who is going to pay for all these adventures!!!
How about the poor kid? S/he's the one who will pay most dearly. Talk about having the deck stacked against you.
Apparently people applying for prison guard jobs don't have to undergo any psychological screening. This woman is a whack job & should have been weeded out of the applicant pool on the first round. I feel very sorry for her soon to be born baby but am relieved she didn't help her "boyfriend" either kill another person or escape. Wow
Lets see a photo of the guard
There's one at the NBCNewYork.com link. Personally, she reminds me of Octomom.
Well, they've now posted it above.
She reminds me of buckwheat. Why are women working in the cesspool of a men's prison anyway?
Oh wait, is that the guy? Well somebody looks like buckwheat!
The most righteous abortion ever.
She's 8 months along already which would require a saline abortion, otherwise known as "saline amniocentesis," "salting out," or a "hypertonic saline" abortion, are later-term abortions used after 16 weeks of pregnancy, when enough fluid has accumulated in the amniotic fluid sac surrounding the baby. Saline abortion is a type of instillation abortion. A needle is inserted through the mother’s abdomen and amniotic fluid is withdrawn and replaced with a solution of concentrated salt. The baby breathes in, swallowing the salt, and is poisoned. The chemical solution also causes painful burning and deterioration of the baby’s skin. Usually, after about an hour, the child dies. The mother goes into labor about 35 hours after instillation and delivers a dead, burned and shriveled baby. Risks include: uncontrolled blood clotting, severe hemorrhage, central nervous system damage, seizures, coma and death. Babies have been born alive after a saline abortion. You believe this a "righteous" thing to do to an innocent child?
Yes, we read it the first time.
Yes, what? That it's righteous??
seriously.....:/
Some things bear repeating.
Mnetally disabled? No - sounds like a very manipulative SOB but he's sane.
Fry his arse or hang him low and slow.
If executing 2 detectives doesn't get you the death penalty nothing should.
where are the anti-abortionist and anti-welfare folks when we need them to say something?????
show your face cowards!!
You don't need to be an anti-abortionist to realize that at 8 months, the baby is viable outside the womb. Abortion at this stage would be murdering a living baby, by any sane person's definition.
Secondly, what you're proposing (seemingly) is a government-mandated abortion. Even more disgusting.
I'm not sure I really get your point: you want forced abortions in the name of saving tax dollars? What are you hoping to accomplish?
yes, the repubs are anti-welfare but also anti-abortion. see how well they play together? make up your mind douche.
what i really want is a coherent answer from some angry repubs on what is their position on supporting welfare and opposing abortion in regards to this particular situation. and please, don't deflect.
What do politics have to do with this? We're talking about a human being here....
Well I'm not a repub, anti-welfare, a douche (unlike yourself), or angry.
Sorry for wasting your time with common sense and decency.
(You might have had more luck with your silly fishing expedition if she was only 2 months pregnant)
Yus, I am against abortions except in cases of rape, incest or when the mothers life is in danger.
This Woman (and I use that term loosely) is a perfect example of why people should have mental exams before they are allowed to have a child.
We need a permit to have a gun but any IDIOT can have a child.
What is wrong with this picture?
If you really want forced abortions....move to China where the government has more control over your body than you do!
Soon there will be another wonderful addition to our Human population...
They just might be a wonderful addition; it remains to be seen. Perhaps an even more wonderful addition than yourself, JJ - who knows??
Interesting that you would make such a judgment, bezsenny, after all that you have said.
Don't become abusive.
I wasn't judging them, just mentioning a possibility. They were the ones being judgmental, assuming that this child is going to follow in their parents footsteps. How do you figure that's "abusive"??
that is one kid that needs adopted - IMMEDIATELY.
you have to be mentally retarded to adopt something that is proven to be from the losers gene pool.
People don't inherit criminality, Yus.
Agreed; The child definitely should not be left in the care of this woman.
Just because your parents were losers doesn't mean you'll also be a loser. This innocent human being should be denied a loving home just because of who their parents were, Yus? Sounds like YOUR parents were losers themselves to raise someone with a mindset such as pathetic as yours....
Well...actually...it's been shown through the adoption process that biological parents with "anti-social personality disorder" (the medical term for 'common criminal') tend to have children with 'anti-social personality disorder'.
I agree, this child should be adopted into a loving and caring home. Yus, your comments are horrible and cruel. Thank goodness not everybody thinks and feels the way you do.
That may be true, Gator, to an extent, but "tend to" is not strictly inheritable as is eye or hair color. A lot of people have APD, NPD, and BPD, but also lead normal lives.
@Amused Muse:
Agreed. It's also not fair to the child to be categorically written off simply because of the biological parents.
However, awareness of the potential for issues down the line is important so that the child can be given the best chance in life. Especially, if the problem is one of pervasive (axis I) mental illness--APD and NPD (both axis II) are not, while BPD is.
Just great. Taxpayers already have to pay for him to have 3 squares a day; not they'll get to pay for this woman's unemployment and welfare for the kid. Unreal.
That precious baby is innocent, please have some character and not insult the baby. The parents maybe complete morons but every baby born has a purpose. It maybe that this precious one grows up to be real special. Please don't judge a book by the cover. Judge by the contents. Some of the comments are very understandable. If you have ever lost a child, as I have lost 3 babies that died, and now my 8 year old son has a large mass growing in his chest, and I might lose him. I cherish all of my babies. Lets all pray that she does the right thing and place this baby with a family that cannot have a baby......................
My mother was raised in a horrible family of drug addicts and miscreants who were in & out of prison (and worse), and she is the kindest and hardest working person I've ever known. She also did an awesome job of being a mom (Lord knows where she learned that--it sure wasn't at home), and one of her kids is now a doctor. So biology is not destiny. I hope this child is given circumstances that allow all good things to unfold.
Lee, she did learn it at home, she just learned what NOT to do and did just the opposite. I am happy for you and your family, it takes an incredible amount of strength to turn around and do whats right when you've never had a good example. You are very blessed.