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Subscribe to RSSPublished at 6:05 a.m. ET: A winter storm heading for the Northeast could bring major snowfall to upstate New York and New England on Friday and into the weekend – but forecasts are divided on its potential impact.
A clipper from the north is expected to combine with a rainy storm moving through the South to create a snowstorm for many parts of the region late Friday and Saturday, according to Weather Channel meteorologist Kevin Roth.
However, there is still some uncertainty on exactly where and when the two systems combine, he said.
For cities such as Boston, the changing forecast could mean the difference between an icy nuisance and a major winter storm that would dump up to 2 feet of snow, bringing widespread disruption.
“The European model, which is the generally the best model we have, has continued to insist there is going to be this really big storm but the other models are not bullish on it at all,” the Weather Channel’s Carl Parker said. “The difference is -- will it be a blockbuster for places like Boston?”
The last time Boston had one foot of snow was in January 2011.
Most of the I-95 corridor is already set for heavy rain on Friday.
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Ice and snow changes our environment, as winter engulfs our world.
Under the European model, the whole region would see significant snow but up to 2 feet would be dumped on Massachusetts – including Boston – and southern Maine overnight Friday.
That level of snow is “potentially life-threatening,” the Weather Channel’s Chris Warren warned.
However, other U.S. models show the two systems combining further to the east, meaning there would still be heavy snow in northern New England but cities such as Boston could receive as little as 2 inches.
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Here's the opportunity for New Englanders to practice thier victim stories, Put on the sad faces and claim some obama bucks. After all, it's worked well for much of the south and New York...
Here in NJ, we've been getting a dusting and 1 or 2 inches here and there.
I want 12" of snow or nothing! Something about not being able to go to work and whipping out the snow blower that seems like a good morning to me.
Especially when I do my retired neighbors front walk and they look out the window with a big appreciative smile on their face.
It's always worth a little tupperware full of home made chocolate chip cookies to me.. Mmmmm.. ;-)
Kieth,
Your post says a lot about your personality..... Not to mention how your mind works...
Coworkers get along with you?
Keith, in the words of Bugs Bunny, who is wiser than you are, "What a Maroon!"
Poor Keith; he's a hard working man who contributes incredibly to society; a man who's tired of opportunistic, Obama-loving slackers whining and complaining because their house got destroyed, because they were without power for weeks, because their only car is underwater, or because loved ones died. How DARE they profit from his hard earned tax dollars.
Hummmmmmmm ... What a difference of analytical processes .. (garbage in garbage out)
Americans model 2 inches .... European model 2 feet .... I remember the European model being dead on for Sandy .... If they hit it again, we had better take a hard look at how they build the model ... and start adjusting ours ....
Same here on the NY/NJ border, Creek Dog.
Mental note to self: Stock up on beer and gas for the snowblower, well, the beer is for me.
@ Keith. Go crawl back in your troll hole.
Keith, I've lived in MA all my life, and all winter long I read these media horror stories of "The next Great BLIZZARD" "The STORM of a lifetime" etc. It's all media hype 99% of the time.
Personally, I've always been under the conviction that the supermarkets are in cahoots with the weathermen. When the stores overstock they contact the weathermen to tell them that they NEED a prediction of a storm to get people in to buy things they wouldn't otherwise need.
And the storm just goes out to see more often than not.
This has been happening more and more since Katrina.
Calm down folks. It's just a storm. We'll survive it.
Janine
Too late the lemmings are already gathering and the sheeple are bleating right behind them.....now if someone would just shout ...GO!!...
Oh My God!...the worlds ending...at least in the feeble minds of the weather people, and the new englanders....wonder how many nobama dollars this will cost the taxpayers....pathetic.
sheesh Keith, you jealous much
im very curious as to why you feel so strongly about people you don't know...so strongly about someone getting something that has nothing to do with you....
are you like one of those fast food managers that think the store belongs to yourself and that if you give someone a cup your losing personal income....i really wonder
keith-834246
Don't worry keith, when all of that winter snow melts and creates major floods in the southern states along with the storm systems and tornadoes you can cry for your share of needed aid. If you live in the lower western states you will just have to wait for the drought and wild fires.
I seem to have struck too close to the truth for some peoples comfort. Perhaps we've all seen to many abuses of the federal handout wagon.
It seems that for many communities FEMA has become a free money store, where way to many individuals, organizations and local governments fill up their coffers with obama bucks at the expense of the American tax payer...
Keith; are you as pathetic as your remark? i feel sorry for up north that has to go through this bitter harsh weather besides i used to live in the Bronx, so i know how bad it can get. Also you really should look into spell check you said "thier" which is spelled wrong the proper spelling is their, just thought i let you know that. Also to add on you said
victim story huh? well let me tell you what, They don't need any practice because tragedy happens people looses everything if the storm is so powerful so no they don't need practice. Maybe if you quit trolling and learn to have some respect you would be a better person than some lame sorry excuse of a human.
Actually Kieth, it's the opposite. Your comment is "FARTHEST" from the truth.
People died. There are thousand of people in 7 degrees with children still living in tents. Your post was deranged dude. Only because it didn't happen to you.
You're one of those people that say, "It always happens to somebody else..Never me"
Until it happens to "you". It's called "naive". You know, like stepping in dog-@!$%# even though you were looking right at it. There is no way talking yourself out of your BS comment. Like hitting "Send" on an e-mail, no turning back now.
On another note,
To= I'm going "to" the store.
Too= "Also" as in, I'm going to the store. Do you want to go "too"?
Have a nice day in your perfect doomsday prepper world since you'll never need any outside help in your life. Until it happens to you...
Keith, see what you get for stating the obvious. Nothing like feeding into the emotions of the fearful.
See Niko, you do understand. LOL
what he said.
You bangin' Kieth?!
Thought so...... It's obvious by your post. Look out, there's poop in your trail....
Guess on doomsday, you and Kieth will be Happy together in his bunker...
Pretty hard to walk with both feet in your mouth huh...
lmfao!!! omg creek dog that was too funny :) made my day and i agree with you
Creek Dog - kudos to you for helping out your elderly neighbors.
We've been getting the same thing around here - a dusting to an inch or so. If we get more, we'll just deal with it. I can recall one year when we had a lot of snow piled up, pulling to the end of the driveway, opening the door, standing on the car and checking for traffic, then jumping back in the car and pulling out fast when it was clear. I was never so happy as when the sanitation workers came and carted all that snow away!
Oh, hell, had to go back and edit - just read Creek Dog's latest comment! ROFLMAO!!!
keith-834246
Fully agreed on the government part. The money often does not go where it is needed. Many charities function the same way. 10% of donations go where they are intended while the remaining 90% is supposedly used for payroll and operating expenses. The ones collecting the payroll pay themselves six figures or more but ask fo volunteers to actually do the work who don't get paid. Kind of like government when it comes to disaster aid.
Well said Creek Dog on both responses!!!
Hope everyone stays safe.
Nice Creek Dog, now we know who to report for COH Violations.
I just love the Weather Service.............we are either going to get a big storm............or maybe not. Wish everything could be that concise. For example: What does that "happy meal" come with? It comes with a small fries or it may not. Police officer: I pulled you over as you were speeding or maybe your weren't.
Creek Dog, NewsStorm 4 is reporting almost 3 feet for central Jersey, while other sites have that snow going further north and us getting just a couple inches. We will see who is right, but the German model shows us getting burried.
Point out the obvious, that being that the handout mentality of the federal government is structurally flawed and suddenly we're surrounded by those with terrible stories of hardship. Completely ignoring the factual nature of the comment.
I'll repeat it again, FEMA has in many cases become a free money store, where Local governments, orgainzations and individuals flock to get the obama bucks being handed out.
The more theatrical the underlying tragedy can be made by the press the more likely the money is to flow freely.
Those who come on here and pound thier chests about a poor friend of a friend who was affected by a storm, flood, fire or earthquake are missing the point...
Aaaauuuuggggghhhhh!!! The ' White Death' is coming!
Keith, what the hell are you talking about? You talking about Sandy which devestated the Northeast? I am from the South and I work 3 jobs you dumb piece of s%%%. I don't claim any kind of "Obama bucks". I can't stand Obama but your comment makes no sense.
Anyone remember the winters of 77 and 78? Those were supposed to be 'blockbusters' and we are still here. Hmmmm. Weather story written by a 20 something?
GM CD- now now Keith may be a little off his rocker, BUT if it were happening to us down here in the south there would be a whole lotta people on the vine pointing and laughing at us.
That being said. If it is a big one I hope y'all stay safe!
GOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Did I do it right, Scooter?
The Euro model shows us getting buried, while the US model shows mostly rain. Which to believe?
This is why you have to know how to use wordage that means multiple things that each person can take in a different way.
Just like Aerosmith when they wrote a song with lyrics that said.. "Suck On My Big Ten Inch". They were taken to court and in court, Steven Tyler said, "I was referring to my ten inch "Lolly-pop".
Aerosmithwon. Take it how you want to take it. I was referring to banging Kieth on the head with your fists. Right?! LOL
Bye!
Gee Keith, you're a complete @!$%#.
Anyone with an IQ over 80 can easily find federal and state spending that is ripe for getting sliced other than the tiny amount allocated to helping our fellow citizens that get clobbered from time to time by mother nature.
Other than defense, I can't think of a better way to spend tax dollars.
I am sure Keith isn't from an area like the Midwest where the government helps all the tornado victims. The south where the government helps all the hurricane victims. The mountain west where the government helps all the forest fire victims. The west coast where the government helps all the earthquake victims. I am sure Keith hovers about 50 feet above the ground avoiding every disaster along the way.
I live in MA, and they're forcasting anywhere from 2 inches to 2 feet of snow. I wish I could be that vague in my job and still get to keep it.
"You wanted that product by Thursday? Well, it might be there Thursday... or next Tuesday. Maybe."
Keith,
you truly are a dipsh*t Hurricane Sandy destroyed homes people was homeless. Now with this storm coming it could potentially KILL or once again make people homeless. You truly are down right disgrace to us all go back to the gay porn you watch
Even gay porn turns Keith down.
Lmao!!!
Hey Rose,
While I agree with your diagnosis of Keith, please leave the gays out of it. :) Most gays support helping those who are in need.
Keith,
I work for a charity that goes to NJ/NY nearly every weekend to bring food, clothing, toilet paper and other necessities because, get this, they aren't getting the help promised to them by the government.
Once the camera and the news left they were all left to their own devices. Do us all a favor and stick your head back in the sand. Stick to the things you know, poor grammar, bad spelling and trying desperately to satisfy a woman in your 3 minutes allotted time.
Not everyone is on a hand out or wants one. Some desperately need help though! Wake up and grow up, I am sure if you try you could be a decent human being!
don't worry i normally don't say anything i have alot of gay/lesbian friends they are fun to hang out with (:
Ok, we'll switch Keith to S&M/Bondage watcher.
Bring on the Gimp!
Keith, There will always be those who cry for more spending. This country is broke, yet many of the dimwits on this board will scream at any assertion that spending is by itself a problem.
Thenof course the use of the moniker obama bucks is bound to really piss some people off. lol.
BMCM..I remember the blizzard of 78. As I recall, many of the local forecasters were calling for flurries.
holy crap batman! feb 6 and they are talking about a winter storm what the heck is going on. i live in nh and we havent had a good storm in years. i hope we get one of those old fashion 3 footers.
Creek Dog-
I hope you read this. Thank you for being alive. Your posts are always spot on.
Good day sir.
There could be an article about the baby Jesus Himself and trolls like Keith would still find a way to troll.
I don't know what gives you the idea FEMA funds are "free" monies. The bare basic minimum flood policy excluding contents will run you a minimum of $700 and that's in a 100 year flood plain.
Next FEMA funds for the vast majority after EVERY storm no matter where are used initially for the repair of federal and state infrastructure, not for personal claims.
Continuing, you can NOT collect funds from FEMA if the ONLY reason you're seeking help is because of your deductible or because your insurance policy excludes coverage.
So now we've cleared up some common misconceptions, what FEMA can do is assist those who are needy, have suffered, with LOW interest loans to repair what's theirs. It's NOT free money. Never has been and never will be.
Even after receiving the funds. the States end up having to co-pay a substantial sum of Federal Aid given to them in the way of FEMA funds: anywhere from 10% to 50% depending on the total scope of damage. total number of people impacted, residency numbers etc.
But feel free to continue to believe what you want.
Y'all may want to stock up on some supplies to get hammered inside (a little) while you're getting hammered outside. Be safe up there, folks. God bless our Northern Breathren and keep them safe! Especially my mom!
Great post voter in LA. It's amazing how uneducated people are that come on here and post about FEMA. It is simply a knee jerk reaction in these times for people (stupid people) to automatically think SOMEONE is out to take their money... It's pathetic how the government and corporations have brainwashed everyone to turn against their neighbor in their time of need because of the almighty dollar. The love of money will be our final destruction in this rotting country. How much did any of you really even contribute to FEMA? A fraction of a penny chill the fu*k out and if you are that worried about money, you made some @!$%#ty choices yourself to complain about paying taxes...My boyfriend lives in New Jersey and I pray everytime i hear of a storm that he is ok . Luckily he will be moving to CA soon to be with me again! Our weather is gorgeous :)
I understand this new superstorm has been named Nemo, according to weatherchannel.com. Wow. It's winter and it's the north.
bankrobert
It's a little late but, thanks man, got it brotha.....
All or none....
GM CD see #3
GM CD, Jack.
Blockbuster?...blockbuster ?.....You know you have over-hyped too many storms when you have to reach so far back for descriptions wording...i mean really...blockbuster? whens the last time you have heard ANYTHING described as a " blockbuster"..?
Epic?
Legen....
wait for it....
DARY!!!!
Blockbuster...last time I can recall it being used for anything, it was used to describe the movie "Titanic". Meh.
Reminds me of a Late Fee for some reason
...keith... you're an idiot.. we don't panic over snow out here... i've been to GA and i see what happens when there's an inch of snow down there... utter chaos... but... when the occasional super storm hits and floods our coastlines... we feel comfortable reaching out for help.
Right where it belongs to. In the yankee north.
2 feet is life threatening?....what a bunch of maroons.
Sidor, GO AWAY DIRTBAG
"The last time Boston had one foot of snow was in January 2011."
Brace yourselves folks--this could be a storm of historical proportions.
Keith, you have issues with everybody, you need to seek help, no really.
GM Creek Dog - seems our US weather forecasters are like Carnac the Magnificent (Old Johnny Carson Character!) Cookies are good, especially fresh baked!
Somehow I find it difficult to understand that the "European" Model forecast would be more accurate than the model used here in the US.
I guess the Weather Channel still resorts to the "Weather Rock" forecast
1. If the rock is wet, predict rain
2.If the rock is dry, predict sunny
3.If the rock is in Europe, predict that the European Model takes precedence! LOL
my rock got cold last night. must be a new ice age a'comin.
Im really liking this weather rock idea....wonder how many sales you could get by sending rocks to people so that they can know what the weather is like out there?
Weather Rock? I remember the Weather Board:
1. If board is dry, nice weather
2. If board is wet, rain
3. If board is white, snow
4. If board is moving, windy
5. If board is gone, tornado
Thankful I have windows and a phone to call those I know who work 3rd shift and can tell me how the roads/weather really are!! If I depended on the weatherman/woman here in Michigan, I would have been in a lot of trouble and truant officer's would have been at my door.
I'm gonna go get me a rock and board and see how those compare lol ;)
LOL here it's the weather tire. Though I never understood the concept as to why you'd have a tire lying in your yard.
According to Prof. Judith Curry (GA Tech), from her "Climate, Etc." blog, the Europeans are years ahead of the USA in forecasting models. Despite the billions being spent (and drizzled away, IMHO) on "global warming" research here in the USA, the more practical and politically neutral forecasting efforts are being relatively neglected.
G'Afternoon jack and IA.
Weather forecasting is the best job in the world. You can get it wrong most of the time but still keep your job. Not a bad gig!!!
That's the part that pains me. "The European model, which is the generally the best model we have"
The last time MSNBC had an article that was proofread people used the word "Blockbuster".
Ripley: The European model correctly predicted Sandy where the US model had it missing NY. The big storm that followed The European model was correct and again the US model was wrong. So I for one with be getting ready just in case.
Mousesj, I'm in your camp on this one. The Euro model is one of the most accurate models out there. It also tends to dial in early on monster storms. Absolutely correct with your point on Sandy. The Euro was dialed in on that forecast for at least four days BEFORE the US GFS converged with it. Same thing is happening here. Euro was dialed in on this two-foot snowfall forecast for the past three days while the US GFS is once again late to the game in terms of converging with Euro.
My take on it: consider the Euro model to be your early warning system. Make your plans based on Euro, and if things turn out to be less severe than what Euro initially forecast, call it a practice run for what you're going to do when big storms hit. Blowing off a Euro model forecast is potentially a life-threatening mistake, given its track record.
maybe..possibly..can you overpaid weather people be anymore vague??? all this does is make people rush out to the grocerys and by up everything....
Mike, other than politics, weather forcasting is the ONLY profession I know of where you can be consistently WRONG and still keep your job.
I'd like a gig like that.
I can hardly wait to see jim cantore bundled like he was in the antarctic, standing out where the wind or big fans are blowing the snow reporting how terrible and life threatening this "possible" storm is going to be....maybe we'd get lucky enuf to see a snoball take him out...
mission accomplished....ding dongs believe everything...now where the heck did ol' sam put my bird flu shot
Oh No a snow storm in February stop the presses. What's next hot weather in August.
I was thinking the same thing and I was actually hoping for more than just a few inches, The ground can use the snow cover as the slow melt will replenish the aquifers and reservoirs as opposed to rain that generally just washes everything into the creeks,streams,rivers and bays.
"I was actually hoping for more than just a few inches"
God, you sound just like my ex-wife.
^khehehehehe
stone cold.... hilarious!
Hummmmmm ......"Weather Men receive perks from local food stores for snow storm predictions stories" Just a little "side" job..... lol
Oh no! It's winter and there will be a storm! No @!$%# sherlock. When did weather reporting become a media entertainment event.
What the the maroon's at The Entertainment Weather Channel gonna call this one?
Pot calling the kettle black?
What exactly is a "maroon"?
mikeo46.....######
Errr, "...what's up Doc?" from Bugs Bunny, as in "what are you, a chiquita maroon"? Cartoon-esque for moron.
Never watched Bugs Bunny, did ya? Talk about a deprived childhood.
Must have grown up in a liberal/dem/progressive/liv home. Those damned cartoons were so violent you know.
Why the noive of ya
Please make it light we have enough snowbirds down here in Florida now. We "Do Not Give out Handouts to Liberals" we just want your vacation dollars
Not only is your post dumb, but you emphasize your dumbness by bolding it!
shut up compromise you must be as dumb as your comment.
Just do the following:
Hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
whiskey must've been taken?
spot on WTF.
GM usual suspects-Personally I love all the posts about what the weather is like where the posters live. Beats the Barbie Dolls on t.v. The Farmers Almanac has hit my region spot on, wild swings, bitter cold to much appreciated warm, unfortunate with the warm temps the wind blows like a banshee making it worse in my opinion.
EEEEKKK...RUN AWAY ...RUN AWAY...IT'S............snow.
GM Stonepipe.
And GM to you Scooter, hope all is well.
Blockbuster Storm? hell i thought they went out of business years ago.
Spare NJ. They don't need more "stuff". Bury Boston. I would have said Massachusetts, but I wasn't sure how to spell it. Massachusetts loves a good nor-easter.:-)
Pat, you bet your ass I love a good nor-easter. I've lived in MA my whole life. I wouldn't have it any other way.
These recent snow coatings are for wimps. Bring on 4 foot storms like the old days!
i'm a Mass--hole and i approve the above messages....
A third MA-hole approves of this message.
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Further evidence of global warming.
The north polar ice cap is melting.
Water currents' flows are north to south.
Colder water and therefore temperatures are now being experienced to the south.
Hence snow storms to the south of the cap.
Really rather simple.
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Biden in 20116.
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Yeah it never snowed before or was warm. America + Biden in 2016 = Failure.
2016? bit optimistic aren't ya? hell if we make it to 2014 it will be a miracle.
sorry folks the dreaded stutter post......so......
Today's Short Bible Reading from Genesis:
"And God promised men that good and obedient wives would be found in all corners of the earth".
Then he made the earth round... and he laughed and laughed and laughed!
Lmao Scooter, Pretty awesome isn't it...
Hey there Nothing New, Oh and by the way the ice caps aren't melting, they are relocating as the poles naturally change their locations. Notice we live on a magnetized core of liquid? Maybe you've realized by now that all of the land and all of the oceans float on top of that liquid? Get out of your dreamworld. Yes they know there is a huge problem with the use of Chlorine, how it destroys the Ozone layer and why the death of the Phyloplankton (this is a big word for you maybe you better do some research) caused by the Uvb rays reaching the oceans surface is causing the buildup of Co2 in the atmosphere (since thats what Phyloplankton eats) This is the reason why the Doomsday Clock was created and the reason why it ticks towards the 100 year limit that the scientists from the late 1920's placed in action after Adolph Hitler discovered this Chlorine that he used to kill millions of people with. Trust me.. we are working to stop the use of Chlorine by offering Hydrogen Peroxide solutions, but we have to get Spoiled people Like you to use it. Unfortunately we cannot stop the earth of liquid to stop moving the land we live on. Maybe you and that Idiot Biden can help solve that huh?.
Way to go Scooter!
I will chuckle about that all day, but some religions believe that is not a joke! (sarc - had to include as sometimes I tap on the fish tank too!))
As usual Scooter makes my morning again!
Stop giving Keith a hard time...he is very useful...he can be used as a "Bad example"
And he is doing a good job of it. not great mind ya, but good.
he does a great job in being a "bad example"
Well then he is a good example of a bad example... huh what?
Yankees deserve some gubment Cheese with their Whine.. :-(
Who's whining? Go back under your rock.
seriously... all ya'll southerners need to stop projecting your own fears about snow on us 'yankees'
warren,
you need the cheese to go with your whine, quit aggravating the northerners off alright? why dont you pray for their safety you tw*t
Here, here Janine. Not a big deal. We have the snow blower gassed up and the all-wheel drive car stuffed with our ski equipment. Once work ends Friday, in the height of the storm, we'll head to Vermont and ski. The only effect snow will have besides making the trip longer, will be less traffic and a more fun drive.
Where do you ski in Vermont? I grew up in Ludlow. (Okemo MTN to some) I heard Killington will be giving away free lift tickets in SoHo this weekend.
We're longtime Killington pass holders and drive through Ludlow every weekend, but don't ski Okeme. We do golf Okemo Mountain CC. though.
And the bottom line is.They don't really know.
There will be very little snow in the Boston area 2 inches tops. The meteorologists are always wrong.....always.
LoL, so much for that fixxed display of the groundhog day sighting where they drug the tamed groundhog from his pen, set him on the ground at their convenience and where they chose to place him at their own personal discression. What a humorous and totally manipulated culture we have become. Hope they get 3' so they can call it a catastrophe because it doesn't match the dream world they try to produce falsly to please the multitudes.
Wow its going to snow in February in the northeast truly news worthy who would have thought. I guess this is news since we now find out there are more polar bears now then was 40 years ago.
I'll swear i think the weather people get a nut by scaring the hell out of people. If it isn't a tear em up nado, its a damn snowstorm. Stock up on bread, beer, and comdoms, prepare for the worse. Save yourself.
lol condoms that's funny, my parents lived in North Dakota before I was born, myself and my cousins all have birthdays between April and August.
Wait, the weather people can't agree...this IS news. Yawn.
who CARES remember we all died in December, the 21st. This is just all a DREAM! Now wake up and go back to work! P.S. I'm voting for myself as president in 2016!!!
Heck i'll vote for you too! Who ever you are gotta be better than what we go now.
The world did end in December. We just don't know it because the Government covered it up!
The weather forecasting model I built one night at a bar predicts it will be 80 degrees and sunny for the next 3 weeks throughout the entire world. (This model may need a bit of fine-tuning)
After the impact of "Albert" last October I take these things seriously, especially for us old folks. I was taught like the boy scouts "be prepared", test the generator so worst case at least we can run the furnace and the well pump, got plenty of food, fuel for the generator, good supply of medications and lots of dog biscuits. This is New England, I hope the ski folks & snow mobile folks have a super wonderful bonanza to enjoy, helps the working folks who need the jobs. And my nephew who works for a local municipality would love some overtime plowing snow. It really is pretty darn stuff.......