
Promotions for the party included racist depictions of stereotyped Asian speech and a spoof of the late North Korean dictator Kim Jong-il.
Updated at 4:14 p.m. ET: Students at Duke University in Durham, N.C., gathered Wednesday to protest anti-Asian prejudice after a fraternity hosted a "racist rager" party last week replete with literature that lampooned Asian students.
More than 800 people signed up to attend the rally on a Facebook page published by the university's Asian American Alliance. The alliance later closed the page to public comment, saying national attention had made it an inappropriate forum "for a productive discussion of how to improve our campus."
"Something is deeply wrong with Duke. Something is deeply wrong with our community," a representative of the association said at the gathering Wednesday afternoon. "... This protest is about the destructive prejudice that must be uprooted from every corner of Duke to make this place an inclusive and safe place for all."
The rally was planned after Kappa Sigma fraternity — which was allowed to return to campus last year after having dissolved in 2002 amid a misconduct investigation — threw a theme party Friday at which attendees dressed up in stereotypical Asian costumes, the campus newspaper, The Chronicle, reported.
The event was promoted through flyers and email messages that included stereotyped Asian spellings like "herro" and "peopre" and images of the late North Korean dictator Kim Jong-il. It was promoted on Twitter with the hashtag #RacistRager.
The hashtag was quickly overtaken by tweets objecting to the party, like this one:
"This is not just about Asians, one party or one frat," Ashley Tsai, a senior at the university, told the Chronicle. "This is a consistent thing happening. We want serious things to be done by the student body and the university so that this never happens again."
The Student Government and and the Asian Students Association planned an on-campus open discussion Wednesday night.
The fraternity's president apologized for the party, writing in an op-ed column:
Upon learning of the deeply damaging effects of our email to our fellow students, we should have completely canceled the aforementioned party. The Duke Community in which we exist is one that we see too often as divided, and while our actions have brought attention to and widened that divide, it is our sincere intention to work to contribute to a United Duke."
The paper quoted Vice President for Student Affairs Larry Moneta as saying no discipline was planned because it wouldn't resolve racial tensions on campus.



so another case of people getting offended due to knowing it would offend someone else, I guess toga parties are out of the question?
You yankee gays deserve everything you get--in the old days--I understand that the gays were thrown in front of a train---now they are glorified as they go out to recruit children such as in the boy and girl scouts---note the Confederate shirt I am wearing--in 1861----th gays were required to pick cotton alone with others--but Honest Abe Gay Lincoln put a stop to that ---no mor free labor for picking the cotton--the old saying--you southerners had no shoes to wear untill we northerners brought our money south--if you do like the south-----I-95 goes north--to Main--get on it and go home yankee
Holy s*it, Alan. Are you serious? LMAO!
You bet - with the Alan Fischers of the world, found predominately in the South, I would be running up north and not looking back. Small, small minded ignoramuses allowed to breed. Seeing a bubba with a rifle in your avatar is scary enough as it is but then you type in vile tripe.
toga parties are ONLY offensive to dull folks...to fun people...it's just another way to party....toga, toga, toga!!!!!
Alan...Huh?
If I recall the slave owners were fat and ugly kinda like you and they had to buy female slaves to get putang because the white ladies wouldn't have anything to do with those fat ugly lazy want a be men. I may have missed buck toothed but you know what I mean.
Alan --- take a chill pill
I hope Alan is not a gun owner. Sounds like the next nut job to go postal.
Just try being White and showing up at a Alpha Kappa Alpha party.... see how fast you get beat up.
Better to ask for forgiveness, than permission I guess.
How can we still have racists in the 21st century?
It blows my mind.
John 1890398---- I know this is 2013---Things are different now than in1861----but now we we have the dirty Mexicans wanting $5.00 per hour to harvest ferns---Let them go back to Mexico--$4.00 and hour is enough money for a little bit of work--they get a water break every four hours--we have women will take their place if the men do not like that--and they keep conplaining about the sheds they live in--the chickens did not mind living there--they are subhuman--go home yankee--this is southern justice
Are you kidding? If it were who was ofeended I bet your attitude would be much different. You are a big a loser as those in Kappa Sigma. Dont like that I called you a loser? Oh what now I cant call anyone anything I want? MORON!
No wonder we beat you're asses.
But I beat you in spelling. Try your, not you're.
*Your
Alan, you had people scratching their heads with your first post. You went too far with your second and made it obvious you're just a troll. Are you really that bored?
I can't wait for the Alan Fischers of the world to die-off.
This kind of action has no place in higher education. The frat needs to be sent to a diversity class or two, not as punishment but enlightenment. Fine the Frat for punishment, suspend it of any standing for a period.
Shame on them for taking such actions. This is not the best example of what college life has to offer.
Dis all bery bery disturbing. when i wasa inde faturnity, Masta-beta Kow, we no hava dis kinda stuff here. we more go afta da mexicans, not asian. this was all a ancient chinese secret. No one know, no one know ....
Ju -one Hung Lo
The K in Duke
is pronounced like the
K in Krzyzewski.
I can't wait for the Alan Fischers of the world to die-off.
Three things that will never die out....Rats,.....Roaches...Racists... If there is only one racist left it will breed with one of the other species as the are all genetic copies
Alan Fischer: You are an embarrassment to people from the south. Not every white southerner shares your narrow minded, archaic views!!! Don't disgrace that Confederate flag, because my great, great grand-daddy wore that uniform and he was an honorable man who was not raised on hate, but justice and honor. It sickens me to see how many of you disgrace and misrepresent the Confederate flag making it a symbol of shame and injustice.
Hey Alan, You might as well go back to bobber fishing because you suck at trolling.
let me tell you all a thing or two ! Making fun of kim ill dung . or what's his name , is NOT Racist ! Demeaning despots ain't [ that right ain't ! ] racist , too many times people just get ridiculous as to what is racist , then allow certain ' ethnic' groups to engage in real racism , as if ' they " are entitled to ! [ They ain't ! ] ; in Asia , there are many differing ' ethnic " groups , that practice racism against other asians [ etc. ] and murder ! So , just chill ! Any real racism is deplorable , but you all are getting RIDICULOUS !
i hope they...DUKE IT OUT...need T.P. after ya'...DUKE IT OUT...
Alan Fischer is no more from the South than Sherman was.
He is a troll saying provocative racist things only in an effort to elicit hateful anti Southern comments from the gullible. Can't you people tell the difference between bait and an honest hater?
Good grief! Even the damn catfish know when the real thing is on the hook... ignore him.
All students involved in this racist party should be expelled from the school.
Gee, I have been reading that the old South has left racism behind...guess not, Duke has been in the (bad) news section for another racist incident earlier this year......sad.....
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Interestingly to note that, Obama won the majority votes of : White women,Black Women,Asian women and Latino Women,Black men,Asian men,Latino men, Gay men and gay women.
Romney won only the majority vote of White men....
Latino and Black families produce larger families than Whites
White people will be the new minority in the USA within 14 years.
Is it possible Alan isn't trolling, but is trying to point out how ridiculous racism is through extreme sarcasm?
I guess the moderators here don't speak Greek, right ya-su?
Unfortunately Liam African Americans have the highest abortion rate of any demographic and so called latinos are mostly caucasian. How do you say "White Power" in leftist loon speak?
@screminmimi
I was beginning to think I was the only one who could figure that out! Alan's rant seems to have worked pretty well!
@liam-1161783
Latinos and blacks are killing each other off too fast for that to happen! But you keep dreaming.
racism yes...but i gotta admit its funny , however i guess the real issue is Duke is supposed to be place of higher learning which of course includes morality and a certain state of enlightenment.....so the real issue is Duke's ability to propagate its core values to its social organizations...
Liam, you do know white people were already declared a minority right!?
Alan is a troll have fun keeping him happy with the comments.
I think my dog has a higher IQ then Alan ... LOL
@scott
If he is so bad at trolling why is there an armada of comments bashing him?
Anne Stewart
Two wongs don't make it right.
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I thought it was "Two wongs don't make a white"? (Woody Allen, "What's Up, Tiger Lilly?)
I'M SO RONERY...
I can't speak for everybody else, but I wasn't debating him. I just expect a higher quality of troll when I peruse all the well thought out commentary on the news stories of the day :-)
Have a couple more sevensevens. (i'm a gin and tonic man myself)
Alan has simply demonstrated what hypocrites inhabit the NE part of the USA. They blast him for his "hatred" speech, while simultaneously calling southerners the most vile and ugly names their tiny hateful little minds can come up with. Laughable!
He is not trolling. Look at his posting history if you doubt that.
Here in North Carolina, Duke U is known as the University of New Jersey majoring in " Smart Ass ".
I see Alan got all dressed up to go to Wal-Mart
I fail to find the racism in a bunch of kids dressing up as Asian character's just believe that we have become a country who has forgotten how to have fun. We cant enjoy our self because we are too afraid of offending someone. What a bunch of fu-king crybabies we have become. So all you freaking bleeding heart Liberals have already labeled ,all of these Kappa Sig kids as a bunch of Raciest ,just because they had a party and dressed up as Asians? Wow how quickly you come to judge others, I guess that makes you feel better about yourselves. I'm SURE Gad I grew up in a different era , at least we were allowed to enjoy ourselves. And have fun.
Nothing to see here, just another Liberal university exposing its true racist side and then projects it on everyone else.
Thank God the Asians are standing up for themselves.
Now if we can just get the other minorities to realize how the Liberals/Progressives keep them oppressed and exploits them for their political gain and then discards them like a used napkin until the next election or created crisis we may actually be able to help them.
The hypocrisy of Liberalism is exposed again.
I am offended by people who are so easily offended...
People today are so uptight, their asses squeak when they walk... Even the homos!
Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Yeah, political correctness IS the thought police.
And before anyone starts bitchin', I got several of those "ethnicities" in my bloodline, and I am FAR from offended! So as I started this post with: "I am offended by people who are so easily offended..."
I'm with you, Spiddas. The only group that offends me is the one that has no sense of humor. To actually care what some fool thinks of my race, ethnicity, gender, etc. concedes the high ground, drags one down to the playground bully's level. To respond at all to him means one has already compromised one's dignity.
Grow a thicker skin, people!
I would be willing to bet it would be declared racist if there was a White Student Association. Maybe if the other ethnic groups would forgo the "insert race here" Student Association type groups, racism would diminish a bit. But as long as there are groups like this that work to separate certain people from others, there will always be racism and resentment.
joe - the problem is that they promoted it on twitter with the label racistrager. It's obvious that they had ill intentions. This is where the real problem lies. These kids are a bunch of self-obsessed pricks who think it's okay to do whatever they want because it was only "supposed to be in good fun." And shame on the university for using the excuse that punishment would not improve racial tension. Duke is a mess.
dude can't even spell MAINE!!!!
Pretty off-topic. Alan Fischer banned, trolling anyone and everyone across multiple articles in the past week.
Me love you long time.
Me so horny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EKqDCFcIck
So the asians are offended, huh? Go take a visit to Freemont, CA, or really anywhere in the Bay area, and observe how racist the asians are out there.
all of you that dislike this 'racisim' should be looking in mirrors.. we have a potus that 80% of you in the south hate, you have been extremely vocal about that.. I wonder just how many of those OFFENDED Asians have ever spoken a single racist word.. ZERO>>
LEE the flag of this nation is the stars and stripes.. not the shameful southern flag. actually I see more motorcycle folks with that flag and of course, like in a lot of the south, you see those dispicable rednecks having that flag draped over everything.. yes that war is over and I too had relatives who fought and lost their lives in Vicksburg, and Gettysburg.. .
Not everyone here who "hates"/dislikes Obama does so because of the color of his skin. {Me, I got at least seven different ethnicities in my bloodline.} PLENTY here can't stand him because of his ideology. The only difference twixt him and Boy George is the spelling of their names. Same @!$%#, different @!$%#...
So Max, lemme get this straight...I don't care for Obama as president (would love to have the guy as my neighbor though), soooo therefore I am a racist? Thanks for filling me in, I had no idea.
Wow, you really can't have a differing political view than a liberal and not be branded automatically, how very narrow-minded.
So are you guys telling me that my friends in FL who did not vote for Obama but did vote for the black guy over the white guy for Congress are racist?
I wonder if it would be ok to have a Toga party.
That fly's in the face of Roman-Americans ........... Oh yeah, Toga parties are still on.
When in Rome do as the Romanians. Toga Toga Toga
It may still be OK to mock dead civilizations. There may not be anybody around to complain. :)
The people in Rome are Italians, Niki. 2000 Years ago, when the Roman Republic existed, they were called Romans.
Romanians are from Romania.
Actually, there isn't actually a direct ethnic lineage between present day Italians and Ancient Romans, according to scientists who've studied the mitochondrial DNA record. 2000 years is a long time, especially when hordes of rampaging northern barbarians were raping and pillaging their way through your cities. Nobody even really knows how the Ancient Romans look like.
Sorry - but I thought it was funny as hell. I laughed through the entire story. We are the biggest country of pu$$ies. Does the 30under crowd seach relentlessly to cry "Im Offended"? Have a I hate whitey party. Ill show up and drink beer with the host. Just dont invite any homos.
Hey Allan & Cory...it's med time. Today i am going to give u both the whole bottle to take.
U both have wasted enough oxygen. Too bad ur mommies don't believe in abortion.
I can't imagine what kind of college students, in this day and age, would come up with an idea like this without realizing it was going to blow up.
I can't imagine the administrator who not only doesn't want to do anything about this, but uses the stupid "If you can't fix the problem then it's best to not do anything."
And I can't believe the commentors here on MSNBC who are so incredibly privileged that they can't even figure out why this is offensive. I thought the level of discourse was a bit higher here.
What most people dont understand is that the south's culture is under attack and its a silent war. Asians flooding into an area would tend to change anyones culture. The American culture is being diluted by the influx of other cultures. How do you like pushing 1 for English???? Thats just the tip of the iceberg. Dig your heels in and fight.
CaliforniaFirst, you're correct. I wasn't implying that Italians today are necessarily descendents of Romans. I meant that 2000 years ago, people living in Rome would be referred to as Romans, while today, inhabitants in Rome are properly addressed as Italians
Edwardt:
Did you ever consider the "Romainian" bit was intended as humor?
Vice President for Student Affairs Larry Moneta obliviously agrees with the racists....no surprise there...but what is really disgusting is the f#cking racist a$$-holes here especially in this thread...
Like weren't the Romans the bad guys on Star Trek?
Something is wong with Duke U.
It just proves that even kids that are accepted to Duke are not necessarily smart and that they are just as incensitive as any other 20 year old! Asian people know as a whole that the majority of white people are not this ignorant and are not racist! Obama being president is proof of people looking past race. I would imagine that in a big school like Duke people could be very competetive and I would say that they get VERY jealous because Asian people as a whole are usually pretty smart! I think they feel threatened! You might see hundreds of negative comments on there but there are MILLIONS of people in this country that do NOT feel this way and you know that some of the idiots saying stupid things don't really mean it they just don't have brains when they are college age! Its been proven through history. Sorry from me to all of the people offended by our ignorant jealous young people! I don't know anyone young or old that would act like that!!!
Apparently the entrance exam at Duke is very rudimentary. Stupidity knows no bounds.
Or, you could look at this for what it really is, an excuse by a fraternity to throw a party (surprise!!!)
The fact that there are some world leaders worthy of being made fun of by a bunch of fraternity guys is what is really scary.
I have no doubt that the majority of members of the fraternity are not anti-asian racists. No doubt the posters, etc. just got out of control. Undoubtedly what started out as making fun of the N. Korean dictator took on a truly offensive tone when all asians were depicted in a bad light.
Well, at least all of the people at Duke got a lesson in being PC.
Some of them probably had a good time doing it too.
I wonder if it would be ok to throw a REDNECK HILLBILLIE RACIST frat party.
You know, where everyone toks lahk thiyus and haz a beear inn eech hayand an sez "hay wahch thyus".
What, don't ALL white people talk like that?
That's "fried rice" you plick!
Click on prior posts of these making racist comments and you'll find they're extreme right wing tea partiers. They get outraged if anyone suggests they're racist but ignore the fact many in their party openly admit it.
Just wondering, isn't it their right to "hate" as long as there isn't any violence committed? I honestly believe so much of this crap about "political correctness" is manufactured by the government to keep our minds off of the state of the country and let them have a free hand up there in Idiot City.
The fact that anyone finds this even remotely acceptable shows that ignorance knows no bounds.
CaliforniaFirst Nobody knows how the ancient Romans look? LOL what are you talking about? There are many surviving portraits and busts of ancient Romans.
"What most people dont understand is that the south's culture is under attack" LOL, you mean the culture of racism, or the one of ignorance? I guess either way you are right. When are you going to stop being threatened by everyone that is different from you and just live your life. Jesus christ, it's like you people go out of your way to find someone to hate, when it's probably yourself you hate the most. It's actually really sad. Every time you do or say something to indicate that you are racist you might as well be wearing a tee shirt that says I am an insecure, ignorant shell of a person, becasue that's what it makes you look like. Besides, racism is so played out, you might as well be running around calling people a Jive Turkey, because that's how stupid you sound.
@ Quaked one.. they call it comedy. It's ok to pick on any one white.
It's also ok to have the "Freedom of Speech", but not if someone else get's offended? Wait, then it's not Freedom, it's regulated....
Well, there is still the Private Property rights... well, unless they don't like it.
SOOOO my big question, where are these people when the universities and others have the cross dressing parties/dances... after all, someone likely is doing it to make fun of the homosexual community.
Then again, Al always wore plaid, must have been picking on the Lesbian Bulls in the crowd....
I love how things have changed over the years. You can say what you want, and all opinions are relative, until you say something that offends someone else.
Do they NOT see the huge door they are opening? Do they not see the can of worms they are letting loose? Just for those wondering what I am talking about, it will eventually become the monster. The only real natural course of events will be to completely censor speech to "approved" dialects.
90% of comedies will be out, 90% of music will be gone, Just about every magazine will be shuttered... Because they all utilize changes in culture to grow, especially the morphing of the language.
"I'm sick of all this PC stuff/People are being whiny p*ssies." Translation: "Why can't I be a racist @sshole without having to deal with the consequences of someone not putting up with my crap? Why isn't it OK for me to be a complete waste of sperm and you just take it quietly?"
That is what you "it's just good fun" people are really saying.
This generation has gone about as gay and pussy as it can get. I grew up integrated about as integrated as you can get. My entire family is mixed. I grew up with Whites, blacks, asians, latinos, American Indians, Pacific islanders. Played football with all. Dissed each other constantly throughout High School. Wife is asian, brother in laws asian, another is Cuban. Sister-in-laws are asian. We dis each other daily, it's part what we do. GROW SOME fuggin balls and grow up. If you can't have fun with it, YOU are the problem.
blah blah blah develop a sense of humor or maybe that offends the humor impaired. Obama met with the leader of North korea and after he had his say Obama replied to Yon hun lo too fart, if you have something to say please stand up. oh I'm sorry you are standing up. hahaha
So does this mean I ave to remove all my Asian figurines and decorations from my den in my home since I am not Asian?
Some people have way too much time on their hands imo, and maybe some Asian people are upset because they didn't get invited to the party. Who knows, and who really cares? I don't!
I'm not trying to excuse the behavior but if the picture included in the article was one that was used I can't be the only one to recognize that it's from Team America World Police and that they make fun of speaking like that in the movie also. I don't remember Trey Parker and Matt Stone being blasted as racist when that movie came out almost a decade ago. Puppet Kim Jong-il sings I'm So Ronery and You Are Worthress Arec Bardwin.
CaliforniaFirst, of course we know what the ancient Romans looked like. Just visit the ruins of Pompei!
Kappa Sigma fraternity must be comprised of Progressive parents KIDS.
Next thing they will do is try to OUTLAW Christmas trees in Rhode Island.
WOW! This ALAN guy is either an inspired madman or a satirical genius. Either way, he wins my vote for the most interesting posts so far this year.
I like how easy it is for everyone to criticize prejudice towards Asians, but then in the same sentence blast all white southerners as being racist. It seems pretty hypocritical to call someone a racist while judging an entire group of people based on their skin type and where they are from. Saying all southerners are racist is just as ignorant as anything a racist could say.
@ nom
It's possible that it was a joke. I'm Romanian, and I've been asked by many Americans if I'm from Rome, so.....
Nothing is more pathetic then watching racists make strawman arguments to defend their racism...and this thread is replete with it...
At least is the U.S., the racists have no problem self-identifying so we know who they are...
White trash party anybody? No problem there!
not really. White people do have a history of being the oppressors (ie-colonization, racist laws, slavery, etc) but it's dumb to ask white people to just sit there and take abuse over what their ancestors did.
what they do have to account for is genes and teachings. Only because the black man is packing now a days does it keep them from showing there true feelings in public.
Unfortunately Mindyabusiness you're missing vast swaths of history. You're idea that 'White' Europeans are the world's sole oppressors is ridiculous. Your ideology discounts hundreds of other cultures that were oppressors. We can start with enslavement. Enslavement of human beings was practiced by all the ancient civilizations of the Americas, Asia, Europe, and Africa. Native American tribes routinely enslaved their neighbors - The Navajo & Ute to the Paiute and Goshute. Aztecs are famous for their human sacrifices of slaves and war captives, but they definitely were the only ones. Islam as a religion has never had a problem with slavery. Muhammed the prophet had upwards of 30 of his own at any given moment. Islam rapidly expanded outwards from the middle-east to Africa, Europe, Asia, and India. A vast network of slave trading developed. The slave system required that slaves were delivered annually in conformity with treaties of submission by sovereigns who were tributaries of the caliph. This is just the slave trade. We could go on and on about other types of 'oppression' in Islam and the world over and then we could easily jump in to the histories of China, India, Persia, Egypt, Japan, etc etc... All the world has seen its fair share of bad people from every culture.
At a Whisky Tango party do you dress like a Kardashian or Honey Booboo?
You can crash it as Moochelle.
Anyone who believes that whites are solely responsible for the ills of the world, is woefully ignorant of history and should try reading some history books made before political correctness infected academia.
Actually, in college, a frat was suspended for holding a white trash/hillbilly party... it was held to be offensive. I think three organizers were actually suspended for a semester and several athletes lost their eligibility for the season. Admittedly, some of what they did was in extremely bad taste..
Please tell us, who has thrown that party? You're willfully ignorant and prejudiced to think this kind of thing is ok.
Nikki obsessed with the obamas much
I think South Korean girls are awesome.
I hope the organizers of this party get maximum smackdown.
michelle & me: having a history of being the oppressors doesn't equal blame for ALL the woes of the world. That's why I said white people parties are not appropriate. Don't assume I don't know anything about history. We ALL have a dark history and that's why I feel like it's inappropriate to rip on ANYONE'S background.
Packing? Most of your people are behind bars because they dont know how to obey the law. Dont forget we all have the right to keep and carry. We whites are well armed and highly motivated. You need to read this.
THE WRATH OF THE AWAKENED SAXON
by Rudyard Kipling
It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late,
With long arrears to make good,
When the Saxon began to hate.
They were not easily moved,
They were icy -- willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the Saxon began to hate.
Their voices were even and low.
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show
When the Saxon began to hate.
It was not preached to the crowd.
It was not taught by the state.
No man spoke it aloud
When the Saxon began to hate.
It was not suddently bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxon began to hate.
"This destiny does not tire, nor can it be broken, and its mantle of
strength descends upon those in its service." - Francis Parker Yockey,
IMPERIUM
That's because only white folks can be racist, didn't you know that? Celebrate diversity, unless that includes white folks also.
Nobody is excluding white people lol if you read my comment the first part said NOBODY should be punished for their ancestors behavior. Man you guys can really distort a moderate comment on race into something ugly.
And some people think they're so important that all comments are directed to them. The response was to Dan's post.
Don't look now but I think LiberalsRCommies is about to go full Brevik on us. Someone call the ATF.
CALIFORNIA UBERALIS
I can see Liberalsrcommies goose stepping across the living room of his trailer as we speak.
Liberalsrcommies = 12 year old troll on mommy's computer
Then there was the Chinese restaurant that offered "Flee Derively."
I still think that God should change everyone's race every six months. It would be a boon to education worldwide.
And while he is doing that he should also change their religion at the same time. Shouldn't be too much of a problem there since race and religion are closely related. Afterwards we would all be more tolerant.
The cartoon/puppet picture of Kim Jong Il was taken from the movie "Team America". They lampooned him because he's crazy. The voice over for him was stereotypical Asian speak. Maybe that's where these "kids" got this from. It was a hilarious movie.
As a straight white man, I am deeply offended nobody chooses to lampoon my people. I demand equal representation!
Dan, why would you be offended, the lampooning of white people goes on daily and continuously and all self inflicted. Be of good cheer, lampooning in underway as we speak.
Doesn't Kid Rock do a pretty good job of self-parody on his own?
I think Dubya did enough damage to you guys already.
Thank God I am white--Praise the Lord
If you get a divorce in the South-are you still cousins?
Amen to that, because you look like a fat rebel Colonel Sanders already, and you're obviously ignorant, not very bright, and we wouldn't want to complicate matters any further.
No half-cousins.
Lay off the chickens will ya! Sum bst freins eye ever had til they got ate.
These things mean different things indifferent places and under different circumstances. I definitely went to Asian-themed parties while in school in both the northeast and on the west coast. Nobody really minded and Asian students were involved. I think the context and the spirit in which it was organized matters a lot, and there may be more going on at Duke that'll get people's backs up.
Look, for very valid historical reasons, it is always considered inappropriate, virtually anywhere in the US, to mock African-Americans racially. It may or not be inappropriate to mock Whites or Asians, depending on how its done, who does it, the context and the location.. one has to use some situational common sense. It is, unfortunately, considered OK by many to mock Latinos or gays, even today. I can't tell you how many times I went to parties targeting Latinos, revolving around a "wetback" meme. It's pretty disgusting.
California, If it was disgusting , why did you go to those "wetback" parties?
That would be no fun for them as we wouldn't be offended!
Sorry, I didn't have a means of checking for the potential offensiveness of a party before we decided to go... people don't say, "Let's go to the offensive anti-Latino party".. they say, "there's a party tonight at XXX. Want to go?" I assure you that I left in disgust.
To: Allen Fischer
Memo to self: I just decided today to let everyone know I am a bad ass. I can say whatever I want, because, well, I can. I look in the mirror every day, as close as my fat gut will allow, and smile at myself, and look at the missing teeth. Then I go to the fridge and take out the leftover squirrel stew from last night and heat it up for breakfast. Then I go outside and spray down the grass near the front porch, because I took a pee off the porch. Next, I cam back into the house to get some paper--pages ripped from the NRA magazine and took it to the one-holer in the back yard.I just look at the pictures, because I can not read past the 3rd grade level. I live alone, because no woman could understand why my big ego does not match the small size of my brain or the tiny size of my penis.
PS Note to Self: I am living the American Dream and spending very little of the cash under my mattress. Also, be sure to go to Wal Mart and get more ammo.
Imagine, in the year of 2013, this Fisher guy must really be hot knowing a President of this country is a man of color!!! Maybe Fisher is receiving email messages from aliens ---the kind coming from a galaxy far far away and they need coordinates to land.
California, should we put you on a pedestal now or have you already put yourself on one?
oh lord...it's hard to be humble...when your perfect in every way...
hardly Kevin... just don't want y'all to think I'm a hater just because I went to a few parties more than one decade ago ;)
Hmm "Alan Fischer" is that Jewish?
I really want to see Alan go off the deep end. I think there is a drone with your name on it Alan. It is hovering over your "clandestine bunker" better stay tight in there. No sense in allowing "Obummer" to have his drone take you out. Yeah, you are soooo important, aren't you? You massive mountain of a "man." Have you ever said NO to a donut? Gotta think about that sugar intake and your diabetes now. I saw your chart, and you ain't on track to be healthy dude. Your gout and hypertension, is off the charts. Your cholesterol, pffft, you are one run up the stairs from a stroke.
Oh that reminds me, can you get me something upstairs, hurry I need it fast.
Thank God I'm human, thank you Jesus.
Well said, Tad. Unfortunately, Alan Fischer has no idea what you mean - nor do many others. Someone needs to read to Alan a book about Olduvai Gorge. That would almost certainly finish off his miserable life.
I wonder if any of these "Frat" boys speak Mandarin, or Bahassa Indonesian, or Malay, or Japanese, Or Korean--I'm sure they can barely speak proper English and they make fun of others, what dolts and dunces. Like to remind the Boys, that Asians were civilized long before the Europeans even though about moving out of caves. What about an old fashioned costume party, all dolts welcome--just dress as you are.
Hey Skyparrot - you do REALIZE that we are talking about DUKE University right? Duke is tough to get into in the 1st place...even their atheletes are smarter than 75% of the rest of the college students...
let us remind you Skyparrot - DUKE - not NC University at Charlotte..lol....
Wow - now this situation is even worse, based on your stats. What I find the most interesting is that the article states there will be no disciplinary action taken as:
The paper quoted Vice President for Student Affairs Larry Moneta as saying no discipline was planned because it wouldn't resolve racial tensions on campus.
Wow again.
I can't believe people get offended so easily. Pretty soon they'll be shouting to ban Halloween... No more nuns, or cowboys, or beer girls... The problem is not THEM the problem is YOU. You are clearly ashamed of the 'stereotype' - we who embrace the 'stereotypes' of our culture live in relative peace...try it. So what if my people wore conical hats, or leather frilled pants, or a black tunic and cross, so what if they wore big sombreros, had pistols, or wore spurs, so what if they had lederhosen and drank lots of beer, or wear camo and have sunburned necks...so what...and you know if that is just a 'stereotype' and they didn't really do any of that...who the fu^% cares!! Life is too short. Grow up. Have fun.
Really? So "easily offended"?
Ok, so I could throw a Pollock party or a Kike party
or a Wop or Mick or Spick or go ahead and use any other
nasty name you want to.
Why would any sane person think a party to make fun of some other
people is just "Gown up fun"?
So what? you ask...look at that buffoon Alans comments child...hate kills.
I never said it was 'gown up fun'. I said Grow Up. Have fun. What the fu&k difference does it make to me if a bunch of yahoos want to dress up in my cultures clothes, drink, and talk in my accent. I can get angry, pout, and stomp my feet like a 2 year old or get bitter and HATEFUL (remember hate kills) We who embrace the stereotypes of our culture and see them for what they are live in relative peace...try it. Life's much better on our side of the stream.
Wow, Anne Stewart sounds like an unattractive, obese woman.
Lets face it, we as Americans love making fun of people and its just down right disrespectful! And we wonder why our children are bullying others at school? Our culture thrives on being nasty to others, it's such a shame. As "educated" adults, we are supposed to know better. Just goes to show that it doesn't matter if one goes to Duke or NC state, ignorance exists in every socio-economic class.
Anne is a white guy pretending to be a girl.
If anybody decides to throw a Mick party, please send me an invite; I'll bring the Bushmill's.
People have been doing that for centuries, mostly fundie Christian descendants of Puritans. You know, Halloween being a pagan holiday, and all. Funny how the other pagan holidays (Easter, Yule aka Christmas, etc.) don't bother them.
LOL! Next month, and it'll be a Saturday!
Alan. You are Hilarious, Are you trying to get your own Reality show? LOL
I had a Chinese foreign exchange student once for 6 months. Very well to do, too...he hated China: "They all look the same!" " Too crowded in Beijing!" " All have black hair!" Had NO interest in going back to China, and is still in the U.S. 20 years later, doing well. He told me that Chinese think EVERYBODY other than the Chinese are inferior, and that they will rule the world sooner or later (mostly later- they think long range) . It was a real eye-opener.
Somebody once told me " Words won't bother you unless you think they are true" ...good thing the frat boys didn't call the Asian students "doo-doo heads" - imagine the asian student body : We are all doo-doo heads!" OH, the anguish.....
But, everybody knows you can't parody anybody unless they are white. Then it's open season.
Asian is the new Black..
#larstar: what if I enjoy wallowing in my own ignorance? That's where you pinkos fail every time. You get so accustomed to some governmental entity serving you, telling you what do to, what to think, that you simply can't imagine a world where someone might deliberately respond with a hearty F*** you. Go dig a potato somewhere, ya little leprechaun. Anne, that was harsh. herro.
Anne Stewart
a small penis only defines your mouth ann.
there all small to...ANNE STEWART...said the guy...with the two by four stapped to his buttocks...don't want to fall in there / /O\ \
cheers bob
You can make fun of Asians all you want. We're laughing all the way to the bank.
I don't have an accent, but while you were binge drinking and making fun of me, I earned a PhD in chemistry.
Absolute best response to ignorance. Good for you Matt.
I have a friend who is a mathematics professor at a university. He says the white and black American students are the least intelligent, the laziest and have to be "passed" to keep up the college's quota of graduates. He also says the Asian students are the smartest.
Matt - I hate all types of prejudices including the ones from a few "Holier than Thou" Asians who assume that they are somehow better achievers than the others. Stop stereotyping rest of the world as under achievers. So your Ph.D credentials is supposed to prove something? And no, I am not Caucasian.
Personally, I'm quite impressed by the PhD credentials in chemistry because it's a very difficult field to begin with, regardless of a person's ethnic background. Kudos to anyone who puts in that time and effort - most of us don't have that drive.
And yes, people do tend to stereotype and it's not just based on ethnicity. Those who are viewed as being a "Nerd" get it the worse, I think. Frankly, I find all "nerds" to be fascinating people who love learning, and then turn that love into something productive that positively impacts our world. I'll take a conversation with an intelligent person any day in the week over Joe Cool, party boy. Nerdy is the new sexy in my book.
Good for you, Matt.
Have I told you about my reverse convex osmosis transconboobulator?
Okay, Stonepipe 2, I'm almost afraid to ask, but please enlighten me.
Hey Robin, you're cute and I'm really, really nerdy, so nerdy. Sorry, not the that kind of discussion board, I suppose.
Great, do you have a job yet other than working at Starbucks?
@Spo: Actually, I work at McDonald's, thank you very much, and if you could afford it, you'd eat there.
@Anne: I get it, you're still upset that I turned you down, but I'm sorry, I don't like women with as much facial hair as Zach Galifianakis.
Spo de o de - actually, Matt has a job working as a top level scientist at a facility that requires a top level security clearance. Enjoy you latte at Starbucks, but he won't be there serving - he'll be a customer.
And no, Anne, he's not still a virgin. He's down right hot.
mycorner, Duke U Greeks just called! You're next!
They need a hint, though. Are you the kind of non-Caucasian with a turban or the kind that can dance? They need to know which stupid outfits to wear, which stupid accents to use, and which pictures to use when they ridicule you with their ads for the party!
Their words, not mine.
TroutGrowler - thank you for the compliment. But at last, my heart belongs to another.
Spo stop gazing across the steet at Starbucks and get back on the fryer. Customers want fries with their big mac!
My god - did the stupid parade decide to make it's way onto the vine today? What's up with the non-stop comments against Asians? I try to be a lady in my responses, but there's no excuse for some of the things I'm reading here.
Anne - some people have small minds. And I repeat - he's hot.
myname123 - yes, I am getting personal at this point.
Awesome Matt! Awesome!
myname123 - it's hard not to get worked up with some of the comments made towards someone who is amazing. But I've already been told it's okay to let it go. So that's what I'm going to do.
And you would know, Anne, cuz you've tried them all?
killerecho - okay, my last post on this. THANK YOU.
myname123
..touche'
Anne Stewart
you are obsessed with penis's lest i call you Aurthur..
Look, the typical Asian stereotype is so 1980's. I know many Asians Americans who are like any other American- they do not have typical Asian accents but adopt the accent from where he or she was raised in the U.S. What I find amazing is that most of them can speak languages from their parents place of origin; how neat is that? When will we come to realize that we are a cosmopolitan society and we need each other? Come on people, stop the hate!
Really Robin, is this how a top level scientist spends his day working at the Inspector Gadget Laboratory? And exactly how top level is top level that permits access to the Newsvine where he could be considered a security risk. I think maybe Matt is right that he actually does work at the Golden Arches!
Wait - you did what used to be considered as 'acting white'...........
....does that mean that whites can look at other whites who succeed academically and accuse them of acting Asian?
(interesting how you can flip it around, isn't it?)
Spo - it's call a day off. People get that now and then.
Anne you know this why? oh your a s*l*u*t
Matt Congrats on the accomplishment
Spo what different does it make at least he has a job, and not a leach to society
I think that what might was implying was in stead of parting though school he went to class and studied after all isn't that why you are there to get an education. Frats and sororities should be abolished it just a waste
I'm pretty sure Anne is obese and downright nasty in real life. She's probably one of those large caucasian women you see wearing gowns while shopping at Wal-Mart.
Wow Robin, Matt must have a really boring life if he/she spends their day off on Newsvine. Are you part of his support group since you are defending him?
Spo - what's your excuse being on the vine? Is your life boring? Curious about things going on, events? In the mood to stay indoors for a bit, do a little reading and attempt discussions with others? What's your point with that question since you're here? And I am simply I woman who is in love. If you wish to call that a "support group," that's your choice. After my husband's death, I spent 7 1/2 years raising my daughter, trying my best not to feel lonely. And one day this incredible man entered my life and the grief was finally gone. I'm sure you have someone that you love as well, so I'm certain you can understand my defensiveness. It's only natural. I've spent way too much time on this. Regardless, I hope you have a good day.
Ah, the inferiority complex rears its sad little head.
Robin: Stupid in this country runs deep. Ignore them - it's all they have, and they know it. Or do they?
SDN - thank you. A certain special person also told me to simply ignore.
I'm just getting use to this new Newsvine format (don't care for it) and miss being able to click on my friends to instantly go to their columns. But you're a welcomed sight. Hope you have a great day.
Excellent, I see Newsvine is also the NEW Support Group for lonely people who want to express their opinions and feelings in public, and to be surrounded by lemming like people. Ooohhh tranquility is really setting in now and all of this helps me to cope better with the NEW format too. Aahhh Progress, don't you just love it.
Haters gonna hate.
please give us all a freakin' break! does EVERYTHING have to be so POLITICALLY CORRECT NOW? Are you kidding me? Please....Asians are Asians, Blacks are blacks and NOT African Americans; people are fat, skinny or in between....your either gay nor not or maybe bisexual...so whatever terms come with that are what they are...please people...grow the f*ck up
Political correctness is tyrrany with manners.
Screw political correctness.
to add to Denver Bill's comment, political correctness is a weapon used by the Left to suppress dissent. The attack is always against something THEY don't agree with. Rots of Ruck, pinkos. Thanks, Niki!
Oh, and just to get Alan fired up some more. Alan, you know what time it is in the Civil War? It's halftime. The South Shall Rise Again! Gonna be a nasty traffic jam on I-95....
You sound just dumb enough to think a racist frat party is an act of dissent. But I'll pass your appreciation on to Niki when she finishes cleaning my toilet.
Speaking as a white Southerner, Act II of the Civil War won't happen because too many white Southerners are lazy, ignorant drunks with the equivalent of a 6th grade education. When the free meth runs out, the army will disintegrate into a rabble of hurting junkies.
''Blacks are blacks, NOT African-Americans.''
Thanks Massa, but we be namin' ourselves dese days.
Hello
"Once you label me, you negate me”
“Be that self which one truly is."
-Soren Kierkegaard
That they asked people to dress in "Asian costume" is/was not the problem, it's that they intended it to be a racist event and promoted it by ridiculing some common mispronunciations. If you don't see that, you are apparently as doltish as these Duke failures.
I witnessed a Chinese new year celebration. They wore Asian costumes and they spoke with broken English. Time to ban Chinese new year.
Thanks whiskey, now we know you have room temperature IQ. Don't change a thing!
Keeping it classy Duke, keeping it classy.
Why is it so difficult for so many of you to accept that it is offensive to make fun of a group of people based on stereotypes? When using terms or labels that refer to a specific group to put someone down is what is so offensive. For example, saying "driving while asian" purports that all Asians don't know how to drive. There are probably just as many poor caucasian male drivers but we don't have derogatory terms related to being a white male. I could write a 100 item list of derogatory terms and not one will be related to being a white male. Having a term for a group that can be used as an insult is offensive; plain and simple.
I drive "the speed limit plus 5", which I suppose could be considered slow. I think it might be because Asian people value their lives more than arriving at a destination a few minutes faster. Or perhaps it's because we weigh the risk/benefits of getting $100+ ticket vs. three minutes earlier to the store. I don't know, I guess to some people it's worthwhile.
Stereotypes do come from somewhere. I'm not going to deny it.
The problem lies where a person assumes that because a stereotype exists, that it applies to *every* person of that race or ethnicity. And then some of them are just flat-out wrong. I don't care if people *think* I drive slow, and I smile and wave when passing them while they're being ticketed.
1. Despite the earnest desires of the PC crowd, you have no right to not be offended.
2. Stereotyping is taking the characteristics of a subset of a group and applying them to the entire group. Have you never done that?
Probably-gun owners.
It doesn't have to be offensive to you. That Broadway show Mormons makes serious fun of Mormons and yet I never heard any outcry. Best of all I don't hear the Mormons complaining. The good things about those weird Mormons is that they know that getting offended is stupid.
The only reason that none pertaining to white males would make your top 100 list is only because you would refuse to include any. This is not the same as there being none. Surely you know some, such as cracker, honkey, peckerwood, gringo, or simply white devil. The problem that you have is that unlike other ethnic and racial groups, we are not offended by such insignificant drivel and tripe.
I am an oppressed minority. You're just picking on me because I have a job and pay 34% of my gross wages in the form of taxes to a plethora of parasites. A soon as Niki's done cleaning your toilet, we're going out to dinner at Golden Corral. All I can afford after subsidizing 47% of the population. But I'm not angry....I LIKE Golden Corral. Because I'm politically correct. Besides, it's "all you can eat-shrimp" night there.
"My gosh... LIFE is OFFENSIVE!!
AAAIGGH!!
offensensitivity."
-Berke Breathed, "Bloom County"
The frat, its President and VP all are missing the point completely. It is not the party or the racist email you sent out. It is the fact that you would even think of having a party like this that is the problem.
It is not about your actions, it is about your mindset.
And this from a frat that just returned to campus! I think we all know what needs to be done there and it starts with holding the door open and ends with a swift kick to the butt!
No more yanky my wanky, The donger need food!!!
Bob, agree 100% that is classy. Money and Brains to get into Duke doesn't equal the ability to not act stupidly.
While I appreciate the response of the chapter president, it rings hollow. That fraternity has a local board of governers that helps out in chapter management. Additionally, the decision to theme a party generally is handled by a small group within the chapter organization. Summary: it took a whole lot of stupid to get that idea forward to become a theme party.
Hope their national gets involved and helps them to learn a bit more tolerance. I also hope that Duke takes another look at their disciplinary decision and comes up with a constructive way to help encourage tolerance and good decision making.
imagine whirled peas...
Maybe you should be a little more 'tolerant' of something so trivial. You'd clearly be one of those idiotic school officials suspending kids for playing 'hero' by themselves and blowing 'evil' up with an imaginary hand grenade.
me: You seem to spend a great deal of your time defending discrimination - the most common and obvious expression of an inferior self-image. How about we simply stop identifying each other by race and/or gender - simplifies life for those that need further simplification?
You do realize that calling someone idiotic doesn't in any way elevate your relative status?
Where have I defended discrimination?
Not saying I'm right, but couldn't they just be lampooning a dictator in a belittling manner, albeit racist? Maybe a reaction to that completely ridiculous North Korean propaganda film showing a young man dreaming of nuking NY City? Not saying it's right, exactly, just pointing out a possible reason. Of course, I still think the whole PC thing is a total cliche.
What is this world coming to when white people can't make fun of "less than white" people? When you are white, you have the never ending responsibility of looking down you nose at the other races as human subspecies.
Now does that sound fair? No it doesn't. It's not fair and it is not true. The racism white people endure is much more than any other race in the USA. Maybe white people are receiving pay back for what their ancestors did out of ignorance but I for one am getting tired of the racist abuse I suffer for being white.
Every race in the USA can celebrate their ethnicity openly and proud but if a group of white people celebrate theirs they are called Nazi's and haters. Does that sound fair? How about a "White history month" or a "Miss White America" or even a "White STARZ Channel? The list goes on and on with all the races in the USA that can promote their ethnicity and culture while white people sit quiet in fear of reprisal from the PC races that point the finger at them constantly.
Oh, you poor, poor, oppressed white man. I'm sure those poor Duke fratboys were pushed into this, they didn't want to, but those evil Asian people just wouldn't relent, and made them dress up and use fake accents.
It's definitely the fault of Asian people. I'm sick of it, always having to push my culture in your face... wait, I'm an American. I don't "celebrate" a culture. I don't go to "race rallies" or anything of that nature. Well crap, I guess I'd better join up, otherwise you won't have a straw man to burn anymore.
Come on PHD Matt, you seemed more intelligent in your other posts, the point he's making is that there is exclusionary selectivism by the Politically Correct crowd. Certain groups of people are allowed to discriminate and others are not. I don't know how you can disagree with this. Hell if a white man is discriminated against they call it 'reverse discrimination' - WTF?
@me: "I for one am getting tired of the racist abuse I suffer for being white."
Really? He's making a claim of racism against him because he's white. I don't see how a person can disagree with cultural pride, the difference is when it involves exclusion based on a particular race. What form of racism are you, or the original poster subject to?
I agree he's definitely being dramatic. But my point still stands. And perhaps he is experiencing abuse for being white...why is it ok to degrade and denounce his accusations of racism? Is it not possible for a White person to experience racism?
And its interesting that you can brush off BlackTV or Miss Black America with its complete lack of diversity as simply 'cultural pride'. Would a station called WhiteTV simply be 'cultural pride' as well?
I like chop suey
me - minority populations are protected against discrimination for a reason. They do not have the numbers to counter actions that would keep them from enjoying the American dream like the rest of us. If whites become the minority, they can have equal protection, too. I find nothing wrong with minority groups expressing pride. I'm of Irish decent and I have no problems expressing pride with that. We all have things to be proud of, but to be honest, I'd feel downright stupid waving a sign of white pride. Why? Move on.
Sorry, but history in this country is taught from a white perspective....Why is there no White history month, because that is like every month, no white tv channels...oh they are already white, Miss White America? , because Miss America is more than likely already white. You are complaining because other groups of people have like a month or a few weeks dedicated to their culture? Get over it America is not the nation of the privileged white male. There are all kinds of people here.
Woah is me...ROFL! Boo hoo!
Want to watch something that's all about whites, watch Honey Boo boo.
Wow Robin what world do you live in...the 'American Dream' like the rest of us??! Explain to me again why a White person isn't deserving of 'equal' protection? There shouldn't be a double standard - that's my point.
This Country yammers on about Racism but there's no real push for true equality. Its the crutch that no one wants to give up.
And SillyJess...ugh seriously. I think you missed the point entirely...Though, why is any 'white male' automatically designated 'privileged'? Enlighten me.
me1234567891;
No offense, but I suspect that you are not at Robin's level and therefore cannot comprehend where she is coming from- much like many of the people commenting here.
Good rebutall me1234567891, no one wants to admit that in order for equality to be achieved that ultimately someone has to sacrifice what they have to give to someone else: Job, Status, Lifestyle...etc. Remember not that long ago the demands for Reparations for Slavery. And of course no one likes to talk about what happens in a Mancession, unless of course it is affecting a minoritiy. I'd like to think we are all Americans that live in this country and that no one is a minority.
Me - okay, think segregation as just one example. Do you really think blacks loved riding in the back of the bus or being given less opportunities because of the pigment of their skin? In the real world, where I live, there are still people who let a person's race/religion/whatever determine who gets a job or the way they are treated.
Spo - sorry to break the news, but we have minorities in this country. We have people who are treated as less for no other reason than their background - not their actions, not how hard they work, but how they are different.
Lee - that was kind assessment.
No kidding Robin, and some minorities will remain that way as long as they have something to gain politically and financially. Don't you find it ironic that poverty is still tied primarily to one particular group after everything has been done throughout the world to assist them. Maybe there should be a time limit on how long a group can call themselves a minority. After that they are just considered unmotivated and left to their own devices.
Robin...I think you missed the point...I DON"T think discrimination is ok towards ANYONE.
I also think it is NOT ok to 'cripple' an entire demographic by instilling in them a victim mentality and fostering the idea that they are owed something. As a 'victim' myself, I know very well the value of developing a sense of personal self worth and an understanding of ones own capabilities. This NEVER comes from people giving you stuff and pandering to you - making excuses for you and allowing you to act awful to others and take advantage of them because well 'you have been persecuted' or 'victimized' or 'damaged' by society or your upbringing.
Sure the 'help' I received made things seem easier in many ways, but it seriously stifled my progress towards real happiness and developing a sense of self empowerment. If I'd stayed in that mindset of taking what I felt I was owed for my pain and suffering I would never be happy. I'm not saying we shouldn't help people or feel compassion for the bad things that they have had to endure, we certainly should, what I'm saying is that the way we help and show that compassion needs to be constructive in that it helps develop a sense personal capability and worth.
Its very difficult to know when your help has become a hindrance, but I think that ignoring the fact that it has indeed become one can be extremely damaging especially when children are involved. They begin to develop that same I'm a victim attitude- always looking to reinforce ways that they are indeed a victim, so that now you are not only hurting one person you're hurting entire families. This 'you owe me something attitude' fosters deep resentment and anger and further divides society. This is NOT the way to unite a Country and more importantly it is NOT the way to help our children, our sisters, our brothers, our mothers, or our fathers, NOT the way to help anyone be HAPPIER - which is essentially what we all want.
ROFLMAO at Alan Fisher. You must be referring to the south where it is legal to marry your cousin. (EWWWWW!!!!) Just not your gay cousin.
This would never happen at a more progressive California school like UCRA.
har har har...good one, George.
You are suplised I speak your ranguage?
Hi, guys! I'm Niki, from the trailer next door. I'd have come over and wallowed in ignorance with you a lot sooner, but I only just figured out we all live in the same park!
A similar incident happened at William and Mary when I was a grad student in 1981, but in that case it was white males dressing as African American stereotypes. No action was taken then either, but one sure would hope attitudes would have changed in thirty years. These kids actually have no clue that their theme parties are racist, demeaning and insulting. "It's a joke," they claim, but it is a joke at which only they laugh. I've always said the term 'Political Correct' was a phrase invented by a priviledged white man who wanted to continue to make racist and sexist jokes with impunity. When others of us object to their (at best) insensitivity, they cry, "Don't be so politically correct!" It is not about being politically correct but about acting correctly. You certainly have the right to insult me and my culture but not with impunity. Expect a backlash.
Haha, fools! I'm glad I can make just about every racist joke in the book (no Eskimo in my blood line). There's a certain freedom in having a crazy mixed heritage. I don't get offended at race jokes, and you can't stop me from making them. Hey I tell a black joke? It's about me. When I tell an asian joke, it's about me. When I tell a white joke, it's about me. You can say, "but what about other people who get their feelings hurt?" I say, "Good comedy has grains of truth and the best comedy stings like crazy" As a black Chemist/ Electrical Engineer, the lazy stupid black jokes don't bother me or my family because we work and study hard. An Asian who's small and obsequious? doesn't bother me, because I'm ex military, weigh 200lbs and I like to fight. White guy who's anal retentive and no rhythm? Well as an engineer I guess I am a little stiff, but I can cut the rug!! Relax, the frat boys are idiots, and they certainly don't have a single drop of sensitivity in their bodies, but Freedom of speech is defended, even for the town jesters. The best thing you can do is laugh them to out the door. Don't take yourselves too seriously, relax. Idiots abound everywhere, and I and you are no different. If you think you are different, then you are also a fool.
Chemist/Electrical Engineer? You have academic schizophrenia, my friend. ;)
I happen to be of mixed racial heritage myself...but I do take acception with mean-spirited racist humor, no matter the source. And ignoring ignorance/hatred is tantamount to promotion of it. It is like a weed that grows unabated in the beautiful garden of America. It has been particially stemmed by law and if brought to the light of day where ever and when ever it occurs, it will die a natural death with new generations. But it can not be watered with more hatred nor can its proliferation be stopped by turning a blind eye. I like the jokes. I like good comedy. But comedy based in hatred is not funny.
Chemist = makes crack Electrical engineer= disengages burglar alarms ?
A lot of frat boys enjoy making trouble as this is training for when they get to be CEO's. They stir up trouble in college, when it "doesn't count, since they are just high spirited college boys" and so get to deal with some high powered administrators in the schools and so learn what it is like to kick the hornest's nest.
Once they learn how to BS their way through this: "We're so sorry, please forgive us, we'll never do it again", etc, etc. Now think about the billionaire bankers and what they are saying about driving the US into a giant recession: "WE're so sorry, please forgive us, we'll never do this again", etc, etc.
If you think I'm joking, think again. I always wondered why business majors were so often frat boys. Now I understand that all their "warfare" with other frats, plus within the frats was all practice for office politics once they started their administrative careers. Where I work, most of the administrators are not very bright, but they do know how to manage and hoard power, so that the worker bees have none and so have to kiss the butts of the not-so-bright administrators to get anything done. Our company at the manager level if just like some small fraturnity: if you're not in it, you're nothing! While they fight with each other, if any of the worker bees try to grab some power, the administrators join together in a show of force to put it down.
So, if you think I'm kidding about frat boys and why they raise so much hell and create so much trouble, then do your own research and see how many become administrators and how many actually do something that produces anything directly, like doctors, nurses, machinists, etc. Very few. Frat boys love to learn how to manipulate people since in business that skill that pays big bucks. And if they fail in business, why, they can use their slimy tactics and become...drum roll...politicians!! LOL
Obviously I'm not sterotyping all frat boys like this. There is just an inordinate number of them that do this and end up in administrative jobs.
Nicely put, Rural!
Yes there are a lot of corporations that have upper echelons just like that. More manupulative skills than brains.
Nice out you gave yourselves at the end..."I'm not sterotyping all frat boys like this." -- when your entire long winded post was, drum roll dah da da da, a stereotype...brilliant.
So its OK for you to stereotype...but not them?
Amazing that kids from the generation raised with the most diversity feel this is fun or appropriate.
The apology could have been written by someone on Obama's staff. It's totally devoid of belief or credibility. Just spin.
You must be from that frat.
why is it not OK to have any kind of frat? Who cares?
I am very glad that my children attended a real university and not some cesspool of ignorance, racism, and general waste of their parent's money. Duke is definitely off our list.
I would never send a child to Duke on the basis that I like the Terps.
I don't think you can claim an entire school is a cesspool of racism, unless they're called "Klan University" or "White Power Institute of Technology." Then you have every right to do so... but for the most part... I'm pretty sure colleges encourage diversity, acceptance, and all the fine, considerate things we're all supposed to do, but fail miserably on from time to time.
Oh @!$%#, seven years of college down the drain.
Niki, I was afraid you'd quit, for a minute there. The harsh berating from Lars would be enough to get any job-holding taxpayer down. I was on the ten year plan, myself. OH, and I paid for it all by my ownsome. Not a dime of Obamanation handouts....amazing, ain't it.
Hey! WPIT isn't really a bad school. Our football team just hasn't done well because it's hard to run in those white robes...
Tsk Tsk you're stereotyping. Isn't that exactly what you're vilifying these frat boys for doing?
Way to be a hypocrite.
Hey, if you go to school in North, or South Carolina you have got to expect to be surrounded by racist idiots. Look at the politicians of these states. They are still living pre-Civil War in both of those states.