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Subscribe to RSSA California teacher who pleaded guilty to having sex with her 17-year-old former student is pregnant with the teenager's baby, prosecutors said in court Wednesday.
Kelly Watson, 34, was sentenced to probation on Wednesday for sexually assaulting the teenage male student she met in her class at the New Haven residential school in Vista, Calif. Watson may also serve some jail time.
Last year, sex crimes detectives received a tip about possible inappropriate sexual conduct between Watson and her former student. After investigating, detectives determined the pair dated several months ago.
The school where Watson worked "serves adolescent boys with emotional and learning challenges," according to a statement issued by New Haven last year.
Watson worked as the boy's teacher for several semesters between September 2010 to August 2011.
Prosecutors revealed Watson's pregnancy during today's sentencing and said she is due in April.
According to Watson’s defense attorney David Cohn, the romantic relationship between Watson and her former student began after Watson left the school.
However, Deputy District Attorney Mary Ellen Barrett says that doesn’t diminish the seriousness of the situation.
"The fact is she was his teacher. She was his leader. She was his mentor. Especially in the school he was in, trying to help him out of a bad situation. And, instead, she allowed that line to be crossed," said Barrett.
Cohn insists his client is remorseful for what she’s done.
"She's taken responsibility," said Cohn. "She wrote a very eloquent letter to probation regarding her responsibility and remorsefulness."
Still, despite the Watson’s probation sentencing and possible jail time, Cohn says Watson and her former student-turned-baby’s father plan to continue their romantic relationship.
Cohn says the student has expressed that he would like to continue their relationship once he turns 18 and help Watson take care of their baby.
The former student's mother seems to stand behind the teen's decision to pursue a relationship with Watson in the future. In fact, his mother wrote a letter to the court saying she supports their relationship and is happy about the baby.
A court date has been set for next month to review Watson’s health.
Both the prosecutor and defense say her time served will be based on when the baby is born. As of right now, Watson will not have to register as a sex offender.
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That is rape of an underage boy. Is a 17 year-old boy capable of making the decision to be a father? Is a 34 year-old woman capable of understanding that she is forcing a boy to be a father?
And why will she not serve any jail time for her sexual assault of a minor? Why are men jailed for fondling the genitals of 16-17 year-old girls and registered as sex offenders in the public space for life, but this woman receives no punishment?
Oh, I get it!! The court doesn't care; the police don't care; the mother of the boy doesn't care, the boy doesn't care and the teacher doesn't care as she wants to continue the relationship. So, who gives a 's..t' about the law? Why have any laws regarding rape if they are not enforced?
So much for the teacher's picket sign(s) right BEFORE school starts for the year saying: "It is for the children."
I guess i was born 50 years to late; had some pretty lady teachers in school. none ever took a shot at me, damn; as for forcing the young man(he is old enough to join ,fight and die for his country), no one can force a male to get a erection, it is a two way street;
Bit of a double standard here, as the woman teacher does not have to register as a sex offender but you can bet your bottom dollar if the perp was male he'd be crucified! So much for all are equal under the law.
I'm just amazed that this one seems to be single. Usually when teachers mess around with their students, the're already married with kids.
Nothing says "I gotta get me some of that" like:
Sarcasm.
Hey Ian Blokesworth- Cuz its a DOUBLE STANDARD!!! This boy WASNT harmed or forced like is the case when an adult male does this to an underage girl!!! The mother is fine with the "Situation" cuz she obviuosly didnt see any harm was done to her son, PERIOD MAN!!!! NO PUNISHMENT!!!!
Where were these damn teachers back in my school days?!?!?!
Mommy where is daddy?
Daddy is still in school dear.
What school mommy?
The high school down the street.
Ian Blokesworth: And why will she not serve any jail time for her sexual assault of a minor? Why are men jailed for fondling the genitals of 16-17 year-old girls and registered as sex offenders in the public space for life, but this woman receives no punishment?
Why do the majority of the males that leave comments on this type of story wonder why they weren't as "lucky" as these boys?
forcing?...hardly...bad judgement...yes...
The only real question to this story is why is there a double standard in sentencing women and men for this same type of crime? Justice should be blind, but it clearly is not.
As for the people saying they wish they had a teacher like this, many school kids feel that way, but it doesn't make it right. Many boys and girls have had crushes on their teachers. But if their teachers crossed the line of appropriate conduct, then they should be punished. There is no acceptable reason for a teacher to be engaging in sexual conduct with their students.
While I agree that a guy in this same situation would pay dearly while she will pay lightly, the truth is that I'm not sure I believe she did anything wrong here. Typically a 17-yr old is considered able to give consent in most states. The issue seems to be that she was his teacher at some point. True, but if she was not his teacher at the time the relationship developed, and THERE WAS NO POSSIBILITY that she would be in the future, then I have no problem with what happened. Teachers, as far as I know, do not take an oath concerning how they'll behave with former students FOREVER ON. All a teacher should be required to do is maintain the student-teacher relationship so long as the teacher IS still the teacher.
In any event, his intention appears to be that he wants to form a family with this woman. Pregnant or not, if two people want to have a relationship and there is no justifiable reason why they shouldn't. They should go for it. Why does eveybody think a kid will break somehow when they deal with the realities of the world? Kids are alot smarter than they were 40+ years ago in my day. Somebody provide HARD proof that this kid is incapable of making the decisions he made. Don't assume that all kids are incapable of making life choices at 17 years and 364 days old but suddenly become capable the next day. Kids these days deal with harsh realities all the time. Give them some credit.
I pray to God she doesn't have a gun.
How many 17 year olds are in the military? If you can fight and die for your country, you should be able to decide what relationship you want for yourself. If a 34 year old woman wants to be with a 17 year old young man so what!! If that guy was arrested for something he would be tried as an adult, right? She wasn't his teacher at the time of the beginning of their relationship. This is no brainer, hopefully they can have a good life together.
My math teacher, Miss Sally, was VERY good with ALL of Us and took boys home to tutor Us. I did very well in all of my subjects as well and to this day will never forget Miss Sally. I was a very healthy 16 at the time. She was wonderful.
actually the student was 16 when this started, when will teacher unions make all future teachers meet with a board of supervisors and stress that IF they even think about abusing children they will be sent to prison for 10 yrs minimum and make them sign a contract to that effect.
that way no trial needed here is there signed contracted and which prison should they report to.
I call this bull$hit. I am the father of two young sons. I talked to them repeatedly about safe sex and how difficult it would be to father a child while you're little more than a child yourself. I encouraged them to never succumb to their immediate desires or hormones at the cost of sacrificing a much brighter future.
I can't imagine if one of them had been seduced by a teacher twice his age and then she became pregnant. A 34 yr. old woman knows nothing about birth control? Gimme a break. She was a pedophile hoping to trap a young boy to serve her perverted needs long into the future. The mother went along with this? That explains why this young man made such foolish choices. Both women should be cell-mates.
The 17 year old is saddled with a child and all the responsibilites that come with it before he's even legally old enough to buy cigarettes. Of course this has an impact, hypocrites like you are simply too ignorant to understand that underage boys can be negativly affected by adult predators just like girls. They're simply too young to fully understand the consequences of their actions and the adult should know better. To say nothing of the fact that the teacher is acting extremely unprofessional and violating the trust of the community.
The crime is lesser because the child's guardian has given consent. There is some standard when the child is of a certain age where a parent can give consent in most states
Why, WHY would any 34-yr old woman want to hook up with a 17-yr old BOY??? I just don't get it.
I think the the line in the dirt here is that 17 is considered the de facto age of consent in many states for both boys and girls. The issue is that she was his teacher, which is a different kettle of fish. In that case age isn't the issue as much as the position of authority that she had. Similar to the same thing happening in the work place. I think that is why she didn't have to register has a sex offender.
So your saying that at 18 something magically changes in us that makes us more capable? Though the law in rigid I don't think we should be this should be a case by case thing. I've seen 16 year-olds who are far more mature and capable than some people twice their age and 30 year olds I wouldn't trust with stick of chewing gum.
If the boy is 17 and his mother has no problem with it, it should be a non-issue.
We have some real criminals to go after in this country. A 17 year old boy having sex with a former teacher is no criminal offense in my book. No victims here.
i banged my 8th grade teacher in 1982, things were different back then,it was 3 of us that banged her, im supprise it never got out for someone to find out, cause one of the guys was a big mouth
From the Age of 16 I Humped anyone that stood still long enough ! (ok that's an overstatement.. well, I Think it is ?..... probably.) i just cannot help but think this is a non Issue.... that is, AS LONG AS THE LITTLE B stard Goes to WORK, and supports the cute little Turd Machine that He Helped Create,.. BECAUSE DIAPERS COST MONEY... and that is only the Beginning !
But I think he probably knows that... I Can only Hope he Acts Accordingly. and god knows there are 30 year olds out there, who are too USELESS to Buy stuff for Their offspring, So the Boy is probably as good a Risk as Anyone who was too Ignorant to use a RUBBER ! (but i bet He Has Figured out how to use "Birth Control" By Now... eh ? yup, he's become a real quick study !)
If this were a male teacher and female student, he would be in jail and on the sex offender registry for life. This is total hypocrisy!
(sorry if someone already said this, didn't have time to read everything)
people keep saying double standard but how is this any different than Courtney Stodden marrying 51 year old Doug Hutchinson when she was 16? Double standard is why is the age of consent 15-16 for girls but 18 for boys. age of consent does not mean a 50 year old can grab any 15 year old off the street but that if he has the parents consent its legal for him to pursue a relationship/marry the person.
SDCAL91911
Hey Ian Blokesworth- Cuz its a DOUBLE STANDARD!!! This boy WASNT harmed or forced like is the case when an adult male does this to an underage girl!!! The mother is fine with the "Situation" cuz she obviuosly didnt see any harm was done to her son, PERIOD MAN!!!! NO PUNISHMENT!!!!
Wrong. Ever heard of statutory rape? Basically, it means that if an adult engages in sex with a minor, it's considered rape regardless of whether or not it's consensual, because a minor is not considered mentally mature enough to understand the repercussions of having sex with an adult. We've seen cases of male teachers going to prison for years for having sex with underage girls despite the fact the girls claimed it was consensual, and remember the case of the teacher in Monterry, California, who left his wife for an 18-year-old? People wanted to crucify him despite the fact she was 18 and willingly wanted a relationship with him.
I don't know how many parents are among us. I see a lot of men still fantasizing about hot teachers in their youth. You knew you never stood a chance in hell then. The testimony of many youthful conquests were well known when we were all kids. They were all shameless liars then as they are liars now. How childish of you for still living out your immature teenage fantasies through this boy's misfortune.
The responsible parents in this forum would never pat the back of a teenage son seduced by a now pregnant 34 year old teacher. They would seek the same justice as the parent of a teenage girl impregnated by a 34 yr. old teacher.
She should get the same sentence that a man would in the same situation. No more gender double standards concerning statutory rape or sexual assault by a person of trust!
unfortunately, double standards are what our world is about since the libbies took over
BOOOOO for you Bob!!! Are you guys wanting this poor youg lady in jail NOT into girls/ladies?!?!?!?! Just wondering!!!!!!!!
Double standards is hardly limited to liberals.
Yes, the double standards have no place in the 21st century. Equality means the same as.. The same rewards and the same punishments between genders.
I dislike those that insist on redefining equality to mean that it is only necessary that a certain gender be equal in reward but not punishment.
This inequality is starting to change ( all be it slowly ) in Family court. Now it's time to get the criminal courts up to speed. If this woman dose not end up on the sex offenders list, they should De-list EVERYONE that is on it for a similar crime.
Pardon my candor, but SCREW THAT IDEA "Bob"... Just what WE DON'T NEED, is a Whole Bunch more SUPER MORAL POLICE Monitoring every Consenting Penis over 15 - 16, i don't know, whatever. YES, This Whole Affair, was in Very Bad Taste. so, the TROLLOP, and Mommy to be... Doesn't get to work as a Slutty Teacher anymore because she cannot control her Moistness Levels, and subsequent urge to GRIND.
Dammit ! Teachers can be SO NAUGHTY !... I Do Believe A PROPER (and public, i hope) SPANKING is in order ! BUT, At least THAT won't involve Untold Amounts of Taxpayer Dollars, and a messed up start for our Sexy young couple... EH BOB ?
ProFreedom-5130956
unfortunately, double standards are what our world is about since the libbies took over
So typical of you righties, you show selective memory by "forgetting" how the conservatives like to practice double standards of their own in the form of racial, gender, and religious discrimination.
This is why I believe in abortion...
Does not sound that anyone involved wants an abortion. So, while I am pro choice, I don't see how your belief in abortion is relevant here. And if it were, it would be up to the "teacher" and no one else.
And what would that solve?
too bad your mother didn't feel the same !
"JIM" ? abortion as a Belief ?.... Hmm, I have always thought of it as nothing more than a Simple Question in regards to a medical procedure, followed by a "YES" or "NO" answer from the woman... and i'll accept Either answer, and do my part...
oh, and dad.. can i borrow 800 dollars for quick Vacuum job ?
(yes, i know that joke was in poor taste, but it was inspired by "Mike" the assface who made that TIRED REMARK - ""too bad your mother didn't feel the same !"" Well that is so Original "Mike" and just effing rotten of you to say ! so please go F*&$ YOURSELF, and have a nice day ! ;)
(now THERE is a reason to wear a condom, 800 bucks will buy lots of them.)
but then hey, i guess "Believing in Abortions" is no more Bizarre than the Cult of Scientology... or Druids... (and actually, Tree's are Very Cool... but worship is not really for me,.. and the Wood stove Season would be really Awkward.. ya' know.)
This one time, in band camp.... Seriously, where were these teachers when I was in school? I had a hot student teacher for 9th grade English that we all drooled over...
These teachers are not offering free sex. They are offering fatherhood. Did you lust to be a father when you were 14?
They were probably out raping other guys.
sad that you resort to a movie line to express your opinion regadring this serious matter. The teacher in the article did cross the line. She was a person of trust in this young man's life. The fact that he wants to do the right thing and care for the child upon her release shows emotional growth. The likelyhood of a lasting relationship with her is doubtful. I do not agree with the double standard, male or female ofenders should be registered.
Soon, she will file for sole custody of the child coupled with a life-long child support payment order for the boy. He will spend time in jail as he falls behind his payments. So, which person deserves jail time for a crime?
Ian- Unlikely that the boy would serve time if he fell behind on his child support. My son's father owes over $30k and is still walking around free. It is a sad situation where no one wins on this one. I pray for all of them and hope for the best for the child.
Sarah-291974
Ian- Unlikely that the boy would serve time if he fell behind on his child support. My son's father owes over $30k and is still walking around free. It is a sad situation where no one wins on this one. I pray for all of them and hope for the best for the child.
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I am sorry, but it is vary likely that he faces jail at some point. OFC, you should not want him in jail for a debt. Unless he has the money stashed away and can pay it off more or less all at one time, jail will only hinder his capability to make money. It will also cost you and me any place between 35k and 41k a year to keep him locked up.
A better enforcement system would be to make both parents share custody and be equally responsible for working and paying for the child. In the end, you have both morally bankrupt mothers and deadbeat dads and you also have dead broke dads. Finding a way to hold the morally bankrupt mothers and deadbeat fathers accountable without expensive jail time is what needs to happen.
As for the dead broke dads.. The government would do better to spend money putting them to work instead of incarcerating them.
Most of you people don't even know how this costs everyone over time... that's what's sickening.
"Back East" - you may be absolutely Correct ! and the odds don't look real promising, but on the other hand i have also seen stranger situations than this one, work themselves out. but one thing for sure, the cost you speak of IS REAL... but so is the cost of War, and all the other crap that just IS part of our Society...
I Suppose it could be "sickening" if you let it. but i, for instance... have got more pressing matters to worry about, like 2 parents that are entering the "care stage".... so perhaps its all a matter of perspective and priority, and just minding your own Immediate worries and letting go of the petty, whiny, "sickening" stuff.. Because life is just too damn Short... isn't it ? but its also Beautiful... not that "FREEBIRD" or "BLOKESWORTH" will ever know it, what a couple of sad sacks of Manure !
Have A Nice Day !
It also depends on the state where you live, Sarah. Here in Texas, if you fall just two months behind the sheriff's department will come looking for you.
The student's mother is probably the reason he was in a special school for emotional or learning challenges. Instead of outrage, she supports the relationship. He'll have to wait a year until he's 18 to continue the relationship but the mother sounds like she wants to be rid of him.
No way Annie!!! That is your point (less) of view!!! I bet you are 100% WRONG!!!!
sdgal----apparently you do not work in the schools and have no idea how many parents really do not want their inconvenient children----that would be any requiring care and guidance.
Why is the boy assumed to be the father before a DNA paternity test? Mandatory DNA paternity tests, be they at birth or before birth with the new blood test that works at 3 months of gestation, would help a lot of men and boys by confirming the blood relationship or freeing men from lifelong child obligation when they are found to have no contribution to the pregnancy.
be cause he and the teacher ADMITTED TO IT ?
So what if they admitted to it? You think he was the only boy she was messing around with? Just like him, there could be other young boys she preyed on!
Bart133 *because.
It's all one word there, big boy.
Don't worry, it is only that way "be cause" I said so.
Cruel world huh?
I messed around with older women when I was 17. Just sayin..
You are an idiot too then.
Any teacher, should be jailed for statutory rape in this case.
What amazes me is how many of these are women.
One would think in this day and age they would be smarter: evidentyly not!
My cousin just turned 18, guessing now he is old enough to mess with older women?
She had sex with a minor, who is a 'special needs' student, and she gets probation -without even registering as a sex offender- because she is pregnant. How sweet. Her child should be taken from her as soon as it is born because this woman has proven herself incapable of being a responsible adult.
Where are Women when we need them to push for equal Punishment in this case. A man would have been in jail before been heard by a judge...
Equal treatment by law please....lol
tresorier: Where are Women when we need them to push for equal Punishment in this case.
It's women that want equal punishment. It's men that believe it's not only acceptable but desirable for a women to have sex with a male minor.
jrdrop
You're saying they're asking for it? Alright. So I'm guessing you'd be leniant on people who get caught in bait cars? Since those cars were asking to being robbed?
Also guessing them women with short skirts are asking for it, so obvously if anyone rapes them, they were asking for it and the criminal shouldn't be punished?
Oh what? It doesn't work in the third situation? I wonder why?
chowchig- I think jrdrop is saying that most women want punishment for any adult who takes advantage of a minor, especially when they're in a position of authority over them. And that many men seem to be saying that it's great that this kid got to have sex with an older woman.
@inmissouri
Thanks.
And the mother is "happy" about this? What a worthless rotten mother. The teacher is as screwed up as this boy. The baby should be taken away as it will have a screwed up mother,father and grandmother. This teacher belongs in jail.
Isn't the legal age of consent 16? And can't a mother consent for them above 15?
I have a hard time calling this rape. Rape is a horrible, traumatic experience. No one seems to be horrified or traumatized by this.
Would you all think differently if she were only 20 rather than 34?
I'm not encouraging this kind of behavior, but I do have issues with her being labeled a rapist and a child molestor. And yes I am a woman. And yes I would feel the same way if the genders were reversed.
Guess I am a traditionalist. When I hear rape... I think of forced attack by a man on a woman without consent. I'm lost in terminology these days. Women used to seduce men. Now they rape them?
I know I am confused by the terminology...
An 17 year old male with raging hormones has a VERY difficult time keeping it in his pants let alone a woman making an offer that no male can refuse. Been there as a teenager just like most other guys...
I would have banged some of my female teachers in a heartbeat. Never would have thought twice about it until afterward... I'm sure.
Ms. Watson is in full control. If she doesn't offer... he doesn't get a shot.
There's a side of me that envies this student... I admit it.
You envy being a teenage father? Really?
Hot-in-Miami I'm sure he meant envy as for the sex part with his teacher ONLY not the father-hood part!!
There is a complex patchwork of laws covering different age ranges as being statutory rape. Some states actually have no technical statutory rape law and instead have laws targeting ever increasing punishment as the age of the child decreases. Also, many states define an age difference for minors that are able to give consent. So, if age of consent is 16 that state probably has a 3 or 4 year age difference limit before an adult can be brought up. So in that situation a 16 year old and a 19 or 20 year old could be together, but from 21 on could be brought up on charges.
In the US it is just best to assume that anyone under 18 is off limits no matter what the age of consent is.
It wouldn't be as much of an issue if a 30-something picked up a 16 year old kid when crossing paths in a store or something. The big problem here is that a teacher messed around with a student (even if she wasn't his teacher right then).
I doesn't matter how "you" feel if the genders were reversed. FACT.......if it was a male teacher and the girl was 17 or even 18 the public, the police and everyone else would want him in jail. I can also assure you that he would be forced to register as a sex offender. And for those that say it's ok becuase boys or horny and he wanted this to happen............well if you haven't noticed there are plenty of horny teenage girls running around that would have sex with their teachers if they could, but once again if that were to happen the guy would be jail for a long time and be a registered sex offender for life. FACT!
They need to do a police check on him to see if he has a licence for that dangerous weapon !! He certainly wasnt firing blanks.
at 17, you can take it to the bank that he used a full magazine on auto rapid fire mode.
Well done son, dont worry to much. Keep ya pecka up and all will work out.
'Merica
Nothing like double standards. They are all too common place in our society. Whether it is between the sexes, races, or religions. Im sick of it.
The law says she committed a sex crime against a minor, yet she gets a pass because, as a female, it's not really an offense --- wink, wink, nudge, nudge. No, it's not fair, but women can sniff at the law, abuse young boys, kill their husbands - - and get little more than a tongue lashing. The male species is a target, and we don't receive justice.
a woman can run faster with her skirt up than a man can with his pants down. "Jim Dandy Mangrum"
And the mother of this boy can introduce this teacher as her sons "sex offender "girlfriend. How special is that! Mommy rapist!
Way to go Kelly Watson... WTF is wrong with people in today's world? You think this behavior is OK, acceptable? That 18 yr old student is getting what he wants (we all know what that is). His mother supports the relationship... and happy about the baby. Go figure...
Kelly could have found any number of men willing to bang her at a local bar, online, or maybe some sleazy night spot. Could have walked down the street, gone to parties and made her intentions known.
But she chose her (former) student instead. Nice...
Kelly doesn't look bad in her photos. Wonder what the rest of her looks like?
This young man had a smile on his face. Wait until reality checks in... (for both of them). Grandma... this will be your kid to raise. Wait and see...
You're dead-on right, LG. I'm still trying to figure out what was going on in this woman's head. Was she so desperate what she had to have sex with a kid? And if she was so hot for a younger guy, what was stopping her from going after someone in his early 20's, someone who certainly would've been more mature and experienced and had the ability to care for a baby? The mom may think it's cute her son's gonna be a dad but as you said, wait until reality sets in, when the teacher or her son dumps the child off onto her while they go partying or worse, dump the child off onto her and split because they no longer want the responsibility. When I was a teacher I'd seen too many cases of grandparents in their late 30's to early 40's who had to raise their grandkids because their teenage parents brought them over one night to babysit while they went out and never returned.
"That's my Boy!!"
Don't know about some of these teachers today.
Don't know about some of these 17 year old dudes today.
Don't know about releasing such secrets out.
Must be our new society of humans today.
Why do people always act like young adults can't take care of their kids? That frustrates me @LG. I had three kids (with my husband at the time) by the time I was 22. Although he has since moved on and has another family, I have taken full responsiblity for my children and have never had public assistance or any help from my parents.
I hate that stereotype.
Too bad, You and I both got stuck with it.
I was "Mr. Mom" for years.
Call me sometime.
What stereotype? This is a story about a teacher and a student. She is 34.. he is special education 17 student.
Is this story about YOU? No... This story is about what is wrong with a relationship where power and influence dominated a relationship where the student is the victim and the teacher is the perp.
Come on... This isn't about you.
The stereotype that Grandma will be raising the baby because they are incapable. While this situation isn't necessarily "appropriate", I hardly think it is rape and worthy of making her a sex offener.
I think we understand that.
I do have a sense of humor even in dire situations.
It does not mean the situation was funny.
I was talking to a poster who had similar life experiences.
And while it says the boys there have emotional or learning challenges, I wouldn't say he is "special needs". That implies a developmental disability or something impairing his ability to make choices. I realize it doesn't state exactly what his "challenge" was, but I think it has been blown a little out of proportion.
OK.. so now you identified your point. OK... I understand. Truth be told... depends on a lot of things. Have you been reading up on those stories about more and more grandparents raising their grand children?
While it may not happen to be you... It may be more common than you think.
Good for young adults to raise their own children. I admire an respect that...
Making A LOT of assumptions here... The story offers very little info...
"Special Needs" doesn't mean "Retarded and mentally incapable of making personal decisions", it simply means he might have a hard time concentrating in class ( in this case he might not have a disability whatsoever) or he probably can't understand certain things done in the mainstream way (the teacher just putting information out there and not doing 1 on 1 teaching)
I don't think LG was making a stereotype, but making an opinion based on this particular situation. In your case, you were already married and creating a family unit when your children were born, so your children had a stable household with two parents committed to each other and at least one paycheck coming in; the boy in this case is an unmarried, unemployed 17-year-old with emotional or psychological issues and isn't mature enough to know which way is up. Having taught kids such as these I can tell you that unless he grows up exponentially within the next nine months, he's going to need a lot of help raising his child, and the teacher may not offer much help because she'll have to start a new career. She'll definitely never teach again, not even at the adult level.
This is a mess, as many such experiences are, but I doubt if it was rape. Rape implies two things:1) the person raped doesn't want it, and 2) force was used. I doubt if either occurred, but who knows?
I am not a lawyer. Can someone tell me specifically which Californian law was broken? Can a 17 year old engage in consensual sex with an older partner? What is the legal age for marriage in California? What if they get married now? This whole thing might be in questionable taste or just stupid, but that does not make it illegal? When I was 17 back in the early 70s, we all fantasized about doing the "teacher". I think as a society we may be over-sensitive to this stuff.
"whole thing might be in questionable taste or just stupid" - Absolutely!!!
As guys in our teens we all talked about HOT teachers. RAGING hormones!!! And this applies to all guys....
Most states, I believe, make it criminal for teachers to have sex with minor children, no matter what the age....I suspect if she weren't a teacher it would have been ok (but not sure about that under california law).
but its often a lesser crime than statuatory rape, and doesn't necessary require registry, etc.
Vermont, but the story claims that she was no longer the guy's teacher when they had sex. Again, in poor taste, but still hard to see the crime.
LG
(sigh!),
As a retired Boomer now, one of my college friends my age is quoted as saying "one young man's MILF is another older man's trophy wife". Guess that is the case here.
I'm not suggesting its an awful crime, but in california the age of consent is 18 (just checked), so it is a crime of some sort...but relatively minor which is why the punishment was relatively minor.
@B707320C
Also as a retired boomer... I agree. BUT... its the student/teacher relationship that makes the headlines.
And yeah... we did have some pretty hot teachers in high school. But remembering those days... our standards were exactly very high about who we would "do" vs. who was "doable". Pretty much meaning... given the opportunity we weren't far from a knot hole.
LG,
LOL--at our age its all "coulda, woulda , shoulda" Just don't let the wife hear you think these things!
@B707320C
I live in California and I believe the age of consent is in fact 18. Also, yes I believe you can legally get married under 18 with your parents/judges permission.
So this broad is a child rapist/molester that doesn't have to register. I call BS! Would be utter outrage if the sexes were reversed. Will she rape/molest her own child? Just askin'..........
Why would she rape her own child? The two situations are entirely different. This is not some 12-year old boy being fondled. For all intents and purposes this is a man. If both were 17, they could probably get married. I am reminded that King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain (remember Columbus), were 17 when they married.
In the "old country" men in their 30's married girls in their mid teens with their parents blessing!
this is the problem with women's rights. They think they can do anything and get away with it.
It makes being friendly with today's feminist a very sad thing indeed, f'ing attention whores.
Was feminism a tqctic to make you not responsible for who you are ? it appears to be so, sluts.
if a Male had done this people would be armed are ready to SHOOT to the DEath.
This woman is allowed to live on, have a baby...And you wonder why.....
feminists are "sluts"? well, we can see where you are coming from. sad.
All these sex-related laws are stupid and go against nature. There is no age number to determine decision-making ability. These were two consenting people. No matter what the profession of one or the post-puberty age of the other. Look around the world and count the number of cultures who live by nature's laws not by those promulgated by ignorant prudes and their politician supporters who would put oglers on the sex offender list if they could.
The young man's family supports their relationship and looks forward to the joy of having a grandchild. You don't put people in jail for that. She'll lose a career. That's hard enough. There are too many victims of bad law as well as victims of real sex crimes.
I agree with you!
All sex laws bad. No silly age restrictions.
So, do you troll for dates at the elementary school? Middle School?
Debra Lafavre - two words. Dream school! DAMN! That would have been AWESOME! There should be a living variously student award for that lucky bastard.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/25/florida-judge-reinstates-probation-for-former-tampa-teacher-debra-lafave/
Kountryking- Well said!
'The school where Watson worked "serves adolescent boys with emotional and learning challenges'
That is pretty damn good therapy. Sign me up.
LOLOLOLOL!!!