You should still be ashamed of Duke though, yesterday the administrators showed their true colors by saying they wouldn't punish any students. But after the story gained momentum in the media, they all of a sudden feel differently.

They got suspended, again. Good.

What do you expect from a university in North Carolina?

frat suspension? wth? anyone connected with this should be expelled & tried for a hate crime !

Yeah, that's what we need all right, trials for "crimethink". Guess they don't teach Orwell anymore, eh?

plain bob, a good old fashion idiot and proves the education he got was at a booze college.

Ha ha ha- serves them right a*holes. Hopefully the suspension will turn into an expulsion of their frat as well as from the university altogether for each member

Herro Jackie Chan, and who did you vote for on erection day?

You PC people are full of sh**. They're college kids partying. You must have been taught by liberals (of course) who want to find fault withy everything. ever hear of freedom of expression.

They are happy too!

Oh righten up, you riberal word porice!!!

Okay, they just came off of one suspension and now they pull this; I'd say ban the frat. for life. As for those of you who seem to think the orientals don't belong here, for your information some of their ancestors were probably here long before your's were.

I called for the suspension of the frat and fines a few diversity classes and some community service work when this story broke.....I say stick by it and let the frats know across the nation this is not acceptable.

Ed Orr, You are full of skata. It's Greek. Look it up.

"Acting boorish and foolish is not in and of itself a violation." And now some of you are screaming hate crime. God, get over yourselves and your self-proclamined status of thought/speech police. Some people's feelings got hurt (BOO HOO) and a bunch of whiners decided to take offense. Absolutely RIDICUROUS! That right- it's not a typo, I said RIDICUROUS! NOW go nuts over that one you bunch of crybabies.

You too, Steve. You PC POS.

Ed Orr, you said ORIENTALS instead of asians. You are a RACIST- get him speech police. ABSORUTERY RIDICUROUS!

Obviously some of the fratboys are right here with there childish humor.

None of us is from here except for the First Peoples, so anyone telling anyone else to "go home" is ridiculous.

The disrespect of others is alive and well on this thread. It is repulsive. To put others down to prove who you are reveals more about what you lack than anything else.

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tom111

NC universities will be technical schools if the current NC RepubliCon legislature has anything to do with it! They are trying to ditch a well-rounded 4-year education for job placement via technical training. This is in the state universities rather than community colleges that they are trying this. NC is now trying to take over Mississippi's #50 placement.

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In the South, Kappa Sig is known as the rowdy party frat. And all their little frats run around thinking they are better than anyone else, too - they rub it in the faces of non-frats. They have nothing but total contempt for nonwhites, too. It's the Kappa Sig way. When I went to college I was warned: "stay away from the Kappa Sigs." This has been going on for at least 40 years! For Duke U (private school) to not take care of this ASAP is a disgrace, just as their statement is a disgrace!

Can someone ban Plain Bob? His comments are racist, offensive, and have no value.

@don97524 yeah, I'm an ex Kappa Sig also, and you are a fnn pussy. Grow up liberal idiots, herro, it was a party. Makes me glad I'm not a student now, pc liberal rdiots have really wrecked all the fun. Shamr on you.

On the plus side the fat white boomer woman on the today show, who evidently is an expert, thought the VW Jamaican commercial was "racist" aslo. But then again, she never saw a burger she didn't like.

I think these crude insults actually are a reflection of fear.

These pampered, unproductive frat boys must instinctively understand that their privileged world is coming to an end and it is the Asians who will take over, and quite soon. As they have no other use, each Kappa Sig will be hitched between the poles of a rickshaw to spend his life serving the very people whose speech he presumes to mock today.

Boys, better put down those mint juleps and pick up the textbook "Spoken Korean". You're gonna need it!

the one train of thought minion are amonst us...what were once vinces are now vices...oh he thinks different...i can't stand anyone who thinks different...lol...vince want to ban free speech...or just take away my right to make you think out side the box...

Awwww....poor butt-hurt asians

Kappa Sig has the same reputation out here in Cali...lol

In fact they were behind the "Compton Cookout" bull$hit at UCSD.

These little maricons do this for attention. Who cares, keep moving, and worry about yourself. None of these fools will be running things in the end. Just be ready to give them your $1 when you see them on the street with a sign "spare some change" LOL

Asians are an easy race to pick on. Some whites have a need to pick on a race. These same people cannot say ni**er or sp*ck without the fear of getting their butts kicked. So they found a race they think are physically inept. Why do they not have a racist muslim, racist african or racist hispanic party? Those guys above can represent the republican party all day. The republican party is collapsing with these attitudes even if it is a Democrat pretending to be republican.... actually our race is collapsing on it own stupidity

And there is something wrong with making fun of the dictator of North Korea, who has at least 50,000 people locked up and living in a concentration camp and who threatens America with nuclear weapons?

Unbelievable, apparently the politically correct inmates of the asylum have taken over and are now running Duke University. At least, it will forewarn anyone with commonsense where not to go to school.

It was a party; not a world changing event. In case no one has noticed, there are actually real causes worth getting worked up about - like the ineptitude of our government from top to bottom to solve real problems like the economy - that need our attention, not BS filler like this.

Tom (#1.3) this is what you expect from a tight-knit, affluent, private university in North Carolina. Believe me, action would have been swift at NCSU or UNC or any other taxpayer funded institution. The rich protect their own.

The Asian woman going to Duke who said that the fraternity was ..."mocking the struggles of immigrants.' or words to that effect, must have grown up in a very soft, intellectually and politically correct environment - divorced entirely from the struggle that real immigrants coming to America face. Reminds me of children you see mouthing the political views of their parents with neither thought nor true understanding of the slightest degree of the underpinnings of their statements nor actual comprehension, but doing it so mommy and daddy will be proud of them.

I have six young friends – ages 22 through 30 - all of whom are real immigrants. Young men - 3 of whom are seeking and ultimately will be granted God willing political asylum from the God forsaken African nations they have escaped from; and 3 who came here after winning the Green card lottery in their home country.

They view America as it truly is; the land of opportunity and freedom it always has been for immigrants and people the world over seeking both freedom and economic opportunity and the chance to live their lives as they see fit - not as some despot or a regrettably backward country that operates on a less than enlightened and modern day paradigm dictates and/or tacitly insists they must.

Unfortunately, most of the rhetoric being bandied around now – just like this inane comment by the young woman – is being mouthed by people who think, rather than know, what they are talking about.

But then, when you must consider the ivory towered, university environment form which this broo ha ha has originated, it should not be that surprising.

Throughout its history America has been tough, agreed, on immigrants, but no more and probably actually less in many respects than other countries of the same time periods in question that do not even today offer the same opportunities to rise within their social and economic structures as does America, where you truly can become whatever you set your mind to becoming – even President. (If the ONLY thing, and it is in my opinion one the few actually, good thing that has come out of Obama being elected proved is that there are no longer any excuses that hold water for those who would hide behind the, “Well I can’t ahead because I’m black, or Asian or whatever ….”)

How we deal with adversity is what defines us and to the degree that we allow our minds to take seriously the type of fluff B.S. Duke is playing to with its ultra-sensitive, politically correct approach we will be less able to deal with the real world and walk into an Alice in Wonderland world of un-reality.

But then, all you need to do is reflect back to how Duke, the press and the prosecutor (who was later disbarred I think for gross negligence) handled the accusation by the lying, black woman (whose story changed more often than the wind's direction) to recall how the University condemned and essentially had convicted he players. After all, it is a given that young, white men would automatically harbor the desire to rape a pure as the driven snow black woman isn't it? Of course, it did play into perfect the desire of Duke and those who supported the "lynch ém first" find out the truth later attitude.

We live in a day and age where you have newspapers – where bias is rampant – like the New York Times and Washington Pravda – where the editorial slant invariably is looking for with fervent desire to side with the fools of the world who want a “ cause célèbre” to use to point out how racist America is and still support and need to posit excuses why debilitating programs like like Affirmative Action (aka – Allow those who aren’t qualified and who don’t have the smarts to get their on their own to be allowed to assume jobs they aren’t as well qualified to assume) are needed.

In the end the truth will win out, and these Alice in Wonderland perceptions will be seen for what they are – empty headed, albeit probably well intentioned, but hair brained and lacking in a foundation of reality.

Herrro is so idiotic. It was probably funny during the 1950-60s.

Why don't you say that to the Jesus statue on Sunday? God knows you love everyone, hero.

I was wondering why no one has noted that this was based on the Team America Movie. I tend to take things with a grain of salt, should they have done this no of course not, should people take this as some direct insult at their struggle as an immigrant, probably not, or not as strongly as implied. People need to take a step back, the punishment was apt.

Oh, prease. Ret's get serious. When are they getting suspended for the Pimps N Ho's parties????

you can't have but one train of thought in this country...herrro vare you wrile me up...but it's ok ya'll...if ya say...i got's me a possum and some simmon juice... gon'a party like asian factory worker with a day off...

Tom111,It was never and is still not funny.

Hey what does a pervert, pedophile, mass killer, serial killer, goat lover, idiotic republican, idiotic liberal, misguided christians, and family incest have in common.......... they are all white people!

the white lobbyist are coming to take more of your right's away...here you go mr.politician you just approve NAFTA...we take them tax paying jobs over seas and furnish us some green card money...cause that money in your back pocket is in the best interest of the the american people...

Bob - do you know what the "N" in NAFTA stands for? (hint: not "overseas")

A Duke student is more likely to be from New Jersey than North Carolina.

What's it matter where they are from? Just so you can get the satisfaction of saying "ooooooooo I knew I was right when I bought into that stereotype!" It makes you look about as good as the frat boys.

When a person go to a stupid southern university, a person will become stupid even if a person is Einstein to begin with.

@tom111: doesn't seem to be your problem

Like every race isn't bigoted. Give me a f'n break. I am integrated into multiple mixed races in my family. You ALL have your bigotry. So quit with the Holier than thou bull@!$%# and tell it like it is. You are no more or no less than your different color neighbor or relative.

The statement "These rich southern "gentlemen" " is as bigoted as making fun of someone becasue of where htey are from. I call your post, a great big FAIL.

Those of you here that are so quick to ax Duke University without knowing all the facts are most unwise. Remember when the Duke soccer team was condemned without a trial when a woman cried she was raped by soccer team members? The Durham DA without facts tried and sentenced those Duke students. Turned out the woman had lied and the DA was terminated. The woman was later convicted of a serious crime and went to prison. Those Duke students were dragged through the mud because of lies. Further, some of you are very quick to call southerners racist. I saw more racism up north than I have ever seen down south. Further a majority of Duke students are not southern. Most of you believe everything the liberal media airs. I have always found it rather startling that racism is always thought of as white against black. Racism is found throughout the world and perhaps there is a higher percentage of black against white racism that the reverse. I would venture to state that none, not one of you would turn down a Duke University degree. I wouldn't and I have a degree from UNC. Duke University is an outstanding university and will withstand all that you want to throw its way.

This is in reply to tom111. I can see by the way you write that you could never get into Duke University.

I don't really have anything against Duke, but the environment feeds the school. I'm pretty sure Duke is a decent place to go, but I wouldn't really go to NC to study at a school.

Interesting comments, Tom. Where did you go to school? Don't tell me! A sports scholarship and a wave thru Englich 101!

lol... typo correction: "English 101"

Duke University is a fantastic private school whose tuition rates are probably $100K-$120K per year by now. I doubt most of you on THIS board could even get into Duke if you applied!! Duke is not a North Carolina school per se... it is a private school and very few North Carolinians could afford to go there. In fact, the Asian population is very prominent at Duke as they are full-paying, no scholarship, no student-loan students if they are truly foreign students and not Americans. They must compete to get into this university and they didn't get there without the grades and exceptional academic background. They are OBVIOUSLY smarter than the frat boys that threw this bigoted party!

I am completely disgusted with the university's response to this situation. I am glad to see the national fraternity took it more seriously than the school did. Until the people stand up to racism and bigotry and let it be known that it will not be tolerated, this country will continue to implode from within as it seems to be doing now. And you wonder why this country's moral fiber seems to be deteriorating at a rapid pace. Nobody seems to have any respect for anyone anymore... not even themselves.

descrs-1664846 Who cares? Kids having fun and a bunch of thin skinned pompous jerks finding fault with it. Big deal they(Asians) pay their own way with foreign money and whether or not anyone on this board can afford it or not really shows what a Hypocrite you are. Your special if you can pay your own way and of course all you others are using student loans and have to go to inferior colleges, so in effect you're not as smart. Yet you call them bigots, huh Skippy.

No, SKIPPY, you're the not-so-smart bigot. There are lots of private colleges and universities that MOST of us cannot afford, myself included. But Duke enjoys a wonderful academic reputation and if you don't have the money or don't have the ability to get the money, you simply do not get in there. The tuition costs the same to the Asians that it costs the Americans to go to school there. My point was these kids are paying equally to go there. My other point was most of the idiots on this board could not POSSIBLY get into Duke... I can tell that from their writings and ignorant rants!

Duke does enjoy a wonderful reputation as a diverse university who accepts a diverse population of students... they go out of their way to HAVE a diverse student body because it adds to the rich cultural environment Duke provides. And for them to allow a fraternity to have a party that denigrades a particular population of foreign students is just WRONG! Duke sends representatives to international schools all over the globe to recruit students with the best academic backgrounds to come to their "diverse" university. They should darned well stand up for these kids they have in fact "recruited" when an on-campus fraternity decides to hold an obviously bigoted party that makes fun of a large group of the students attending that very university.

And to lump all North Carolinians as ignorant rednecks is just as bigoted as this party was. I have lived in other parts of the U.S. and the world and ignorance is bliss just about everywhere you go! If you call what these kids did just "having fun" and the Asians they insulted "pompous jerks", then I think you are the bigot Skippy!

@Lynnial, yes it is a big deal that asian international students are coming to USA and paying their fees in full without any scholarship help because america has a really bad economy right now. wow. thought you americans would be grateful that rich asians are helping your economy by coming here and going to your colleges and paying the fees in full. You realize that they are helping your economy right??

I am asian and i hope all the rich asians stop going over there and stop supporting your crappy economy. then you all can cry more about how bad your economy is. wow talk about being ungrateful!!!

@SmileyFace101

They are not coming to America for the sole reason of "helping the economy out". They are coming for personal gain of the education system, which is by far superior here than in their own countries. That is quite the ignorant comment. If you would like to see ungrateful you should see the abundance of asian students who refuse to assimilate into the university as normal students and instead show a complete disrespect for the institution by lying, cheating and failing to come to class. I couldn't figure out if most of the international students were there to study or if they were just there for a vacation.

You know not for nothing, I came to US when I was 4. I went to college here, I've had a job since 15. I've paid my taxes, I'm a citizen and claim myself to be American. Not some hyphenated crap that I see used everywhere. Now are there people that of Asian background that come here, take advantage of the system and not assimilate into society? Sure of course. But so does every minority. To say that only Asians cheat is ridiculous statement. Secondly to say that all asians in america are immigrants who don't hold loyalty to the country is also ridiculous. People like you ridicule the "home country aka China" and say we come here just to take advantage. I haven't, and just about all of my friends haven't. We are citizens, pay our taxes, make a lot of money, are heavily educated and successful. We vote, keep to ourselves, assimilated into the society especially rules of common courtesy. We hold high paying jobs, hold degrees beyond bachelors, and are the most successful and wealthiest minority group in this country. We also give to charity, we don't use violence as a means to get any messages across and generally love this country as much or more than our "home country aka the evil communist regime of china".

Remember that for every "one" of THOSE asians you see, there are two more who are just Americans, that happened to have an ethnic background as Chinese.

Acting boorish and foolish is not in and of itself a violation.

"Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son."

Maybe these dopes did a few too many beer bongs at the toga party?...

Duke lacrosse remember? The rape allegation. I don't know why Duke built their university in North Carolina? Do north Carolina have any decent school system and education there?

@tom111: they can conjegate ordinary English words -- sort of

Mike, You mean like that one reason of a bitch lying through her teeth that had Al and Jesse screaming for white blood, than slithering back into their candyass racist holes when they were given the facts? Never admitting they were full of @!$%#? Like that wrong reason?

Setting aside the racism thing, how about the flagrant debauchery? So.. parents are paying $56,000 a year so that their daughters can prance around nekkid, obviously stoned.. on facebook, for all the world to see?

Warning.. somewhat graphic images:

http://www.dukechronicle.com/article/duke-kappa-sigma-party-ignites-firestorm-criticism

Actually, I think North Carolina has decent schools and is one of the more progressive states in these things. It's kind of a breath of fresh air in the South, if I recall correctly. I've always enjoyed visiting the Raleigh-Durham/RTP area and Charlotte too.. can't say the same of South Carolina..

I wouldn't blame any of this on NC. Duke seems to have some issues.. but it's students really do come from all over the region and the US. I don't think it necessarily reflects on the either NC or its part of the state. UNC, nearby, is a very progressive school in many respects. There are also some very good and ideologically balanced liberal arts colleges from that area. Isn't Davidson College around there somewhere?

What's it matter where they are from? Just so you can get the satisfaction of saying "ooooooooo I knew I was right when I bought into that stereotype!" It makes you look about as good as the frat boys.

But it's an accurate stereotype, they're gilded youth acting like dumbasses. Are you defending them because you're one of them? Maybe you sing in blackface at parties for them? Dolt.

Nice assumption Tetrapoda, I live in California and attended college in California years ago. I was not in a frat, just against all stereotypes. It sounds like you're saying everyone southern is a racist? You're naive.

And no double secret probation? What a waste of seven year of college!

"Over! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"

You could not believe what you were reading? Oh Please. Get over yourself. These were stupid 18-21 year old immature boys. What they did was wrong. They will be punished.

And they should be punished, as what they did reflects negatively on the university that granted them a charter. But violation of university rules, while it can be serious, hardly rises to the level of criminality. Suspend the charter for a while, close the house down for now, and that's enough. Frat boys acting out of drunken immaturity -- who knew? What a shock.

I AM Southern, and white, and what I see at Duke is a bunch of spoiled rich kids acting out crap that others would do if they didn't feel like workaday rubes. But the point is they all want to do it. Give a rest to the wounded Southern pride act, don't be a rube. It's 2013!

I would bet 30% of these people are racists.

Jesse Helms? He tried to be as cantankerous as possible in his policy work, but reportedly he was a nice guy in real life. I had to meet with him for lobbying stuff for my company a few times in DC.. and met with him in the presence of African-American colleagues. He was always very courteous.. not the slightest bit of condescension. He was always a gentleman in person, however neanderthal some of his policy views were. He also believed firmly in the democratic process... more so than many on either side of the aisle. I'm a Dem, but while he lived, I was actually kind of a fan of his.

Nothing is over until we decide it is. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

you mind if we dance wif yo dates?

Germans? Pearl Harbor? Wow. Where did you get your degree? I hope you were trying to be funny!

If so, hold a grudge for things that happened before your time much? And I thought that BS could only be found in the South!

Nice remark about the south and you're putting others down. Nice job, Hypocrite.

I live in the South - born and raised. I know what I am talking about firsthand.

I was there. It was EPIC! Project X epic.

@ amy: their parents can pay full tuition and make large deductible donations to get special rules and deference. same old same old

Bob is right, and it just speaks to the rotten nature of elite schools like Duke. It's a place to spend four years in a drunken stupor for top dollar. Yeah.

When you just don't get it, you just don't get it. Half my family is Asian. I play games online sometimes, and I have a Chinese gamertag. I stopped using my headset because I got tired of being called a f**king chink. Get it now?

no one needs to be called and f'ing anything...but come on I am to believe that in private you havent made one comment about your race or another race with a slang term... maybe even calling a canadian a snowback?

Me ruvey you rong time.

Actually, there are people who don't make racist comments. I guess that's a big surprise to you.

Scott,Half our family are Japanese,Taiwanese and Chinese.They are all very successful because they went to college to study not party.There will always be bigots.They are going to go through life cheating themselves out of getting to know people because they won't be able to get past the skin color.

Had this been the other way around, say Chinese making fun of whites nothing, absolutely nothing would have appeared in the media. Now is that racism?

For some reason you're allowed to make fun of men, white people, southerners, and old people, but not blacks, jews, gays, or apparently Asians.

I mean, how many people came on here to condemn the fraternity and then made generalizations about all people from North Carolina?

Bill,There are no rules.Look up the word racist.Your comments tell me that you condone this type of behavior which I find unacceptable.

There are only rules for the white population against other races. Other races cane say or do anything against the whites and its their right. HHHHMMMMMMMMMMM Bet you're not white are you? Whites have a sense of humor and don't care if some frat makes fun of us. You ever watch TV shows that make fun of the white race? Bet your laughing your A$$ of and never think "wow this program is racist" Thats because the white population actually finds humor in the things we do unlike most of the other races. So take your pompous attitude and and put it where the sun doesn't shine.

NEVER! Because whites aren't allowed to be victims of racism only all the other races.

The most interesting thing about the comments here is that, although you see the words "racist" and "bigot" sprinkled here and there, they are not gushing and over flowing in the posts that you see when another minority group gets "offended". (also there is usually 10X the number of comments). Just a fairly civil back and forth here as opposed to a "you racist, bigoted, southern, white trash, inbred, KKK loving, trailer park crackers". Interesting.

I want you put in charge of all future punishments for me, effective immediately!!

like any asian women would want them.

Asian women only want Black boys or boys who like to go lickitysplit!

no one would complain because its about white people...

give me abreak...its humor

Tongue in cheek.

Relax.

This whole deal is a non-issue.

And actually you have to admit, Kim Jong Un and his forebears are pretty damn funny characters.

is every trailor park with white trash in it? I would highly doubt it.

These pathetic goobers at Duke were acting out their feelings of Asians as the yellow menace. If you don't see that, you're as farking dumbas they are. Maybe not full whitetrash stupid, but pretty damn close.

This whole situation is a bunch of BULLSH!T blown out of shape by the media(Today Show). There are different clubs all over colleges that supposedly allow all races but if you're not of their race you might as well go into an empty room alone. No one will even acknowledge you or even speak to you, and believe it or not the rudest students on campus are the Asian population. I think this country is too PC and should stop whining and sniveling about everything being racist.

I belong to one of the minorities and really don't care if some person pokes fun of my race because its not really important nor is it worthy of the media to report on it just to make a name for themselves. I should have know it was reported by the Today Show, they are famous for putting garbage on their crappy program.

You're either pathetically stupid, or just plain lying. Thanks.

Racism isn't innate. It is TAUGHT.

My kids grow up with the understanding that there are PLENTY of reasons to dislike certain people. the color of their skin... their ethnicity... their religious background are NOT among them.

Hate someone who's abusive.
Hate someone who's a bully.
hate someone who is corrupt.
Hate someone who is themselves, a racist.
Hate someone who uses & manipulates people.
Hate someone who is a thief. Or just...

Hate someone who is an a-hole.

All of these dispicable traits can be found in humand beings of EVERY race, color and social background. I know, personally, individuals that have EVERY one those characteristics.

Being afraid of people that look different is, to some extent, a biological survival mechanism. Racism is definitely mostly learned, though.

Japs! How dare you use such terms, besides can't you see that by their last names they are clearly Korks, VCgooks and Chinks! Talk about ignorance.

Ching chong is idiotic too. It doesn't make sense and it really wasn't funny.

I don't even understand what you are talking about. My brain cannot process all your texts. It is not registering with me. Is it suppose to be funny, wasting time, or just plain nonsense. Me so sorry? Is that Vietnamese? and Ching chong is Chinese? What about Japanese?

I'm not Asian and thanks for your input.

oh the drunks are the board again. what is wrong with people saying crap online behind a key board.

shouldn't you idiots be doing something better like sucking up to your military.

USMC=united states is mentally challenged

@jessie-3511756

Unfortunately its ignorant little punks like you that make me wish I never joined the USN and fought for the freedom of little cowards like you. I would bet your daddy has the same attitude while he collects his welfare check so he can support his little Jessie who lives in his house.

oh the drunks are the board again.

Hmm, sounds like you're buying. LoL!