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Subscribe to RSSThe search for Christopher Dorner, the ex-LAPD officer accused in a string of revenge murders entered its third day Saturday, authorities said, exactly four years after his dismissal from the LAPD. NBC's Miguel Almaguer reports.
Updated at 8:42 p.m. ET: The search for Christopher Dorner, the ex-LAPD officer accused in a string of revenge murders entered its third day Saturday in the snowy mountains of San Bernardino, Calif., authorities said, exactly four years after his dismissal from the LAPD.
Police say they believe Dorner is on a mission to execute former LAPD colleagues and superiors and their families to avenge his 2009 firing. They believe he murdered a retired captain’s daughter and her fiancé in Irvine, Calif., on Sunday, then killed one cop and wounded two others in shootings Thursday.
In an interview with San Francisco's KCBS, LAPD Chief Charlie Beck said Saturday that the department would re-examine the details that led to Dorner's dismissal.
Police spokesman Cmdr. Andrew Smith said the decision was made to ensure the public the LAPD is "fair and transparent" on Dorner's firing.
Dorner accused his training officer in August 2007 of kicking a mentally ill man during an arrest in San Pedro. An internal affairs investigation into his accusations concluded that the training officer had not kicked the mentally ill man and that Dorner's statements were false. He was later notified that he would be fired for making false statements.
Dorner's former boss and L.A. police chief from 2002 to 2009, William Bratton, said earlier that Saturday marked an important date in Dorner's history.
"Four years ago he received his discharge papers, if you will, his dismissal papers on Feb. 9, 2009," Bratton said. "A day of significance certainly in his mind that inasmuch as his grievances all seem to center on his dismissal."
A joint task force was established to continue the search for Dorner. The task force includes the Irvine Police Department, Riverside Police Department, Federal Bureau of Investigation, U.S. Marshall Service, Los Angeles Police Department and other allied agencies.
Los Angeles police deputies continued the manhunt at daybreak after relentless snowfall Friday evening forced them to suspend the search.
Los Angeles Police Chief William Braton, who was once the boss of Christopher Dorner, said Dorner is an "injustice collector" who finally reached a tipping point.
Bratton said it was clear to him that the triggering event in Dorner's life was his dismissal from the LAPD and said it was doubtful that he would give up and turn himself into police.
"He collects injustices and he never lets them go, and evidently they finally reached a tipping point that led to the series of violent acts the last several days," Bratton said. "The last thing that he would want would be to be arrested by the LAPD and do a perp walk. That would be the last injustice, the most significant one."
SWAT teams in camouflage began scouring the mountains Thursday after they found Dorner's burned-out Nissan near a ski resort in Big Bear Lake, about two hours from Los Angeles.
"It's extremely dangerous," San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon said at a news conference Friday, after more than 100 law enforcement officials scoured an 8-square-mile area using police dogs, snowmobiles and armored cars with chains to help navigate the terrain.
Sheriff's officials said the search would continue until Dorner was located or evidence was found indicating he was no longer in the Big Bear area, NBCLosAngeles.com reported.
Michael Goulding / Zuma Press
With gun drawn, two California Highway Patrol officers check the cargo of a truck leaving the Big Bear Lake area during a manhunt for Christopher Dorner who is suspected of the killing three people.
Police said they believe Dorner was acting on an online manifesto in which he baited authorities.
"Any threat assessments you generate will be useless," it read. "I have the strength and benefits of being unpredictable, unconventional, and unforgiving."
McMahon acknowledged that the hunt for a man who is effectively hunting them could be nerve-wracking.
"This business is not always safe," he said. "But this is what we train for."
Meanwhile, an attorney for two women who were shot by police during the search for Dorner said that the women met Saturday with Beck, who apologized.
Emma Hernandez, 71, was with her daughter Margie Carranza, 47, delivering newspapers in Torrance early Thursday when police opened fire on their truck. Hernandez was hit twice in her back and Carranza was injured by flying glass.
Attorney Glen Jonas said that the family appreciated the apology. Police said Beck was making arrangements to replace the women's truck.
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The shooting of the 2 women in the Toyota Tacoma yesterday only makes Christopher Dorners point more valid about how horrible the police are in this country. I believe that Dorner was fired to cover the untruths in the LAPD. I do not think what Dorner is doing now is the right thing either. These cops should be fired on the spot for shooting these poor ladies. I am disgusted with the policies in this country and the police state that we live in.
Indeed, I certainly agree with this. There is no excuse for why that happened.
One thing to think about, they are expending this much man power to catch this one person and have even gone overkill already(the two women). Are they that afraid of someone who is armed with training? Not that the guy shouldnt be caught, but the way they have gone about it so far is less than great. I wont be suprised if they "find" him dead or something from an apparent gun shot wound to the back of the head while cuffed in a police car.
Let us just not forget that local law enforcement should trump the feds, not the other way around and this shouldnt be used an excuse towards it. The last thing we need is a federal police force in place of a local one.
Eitherway, alot of clean up needs to happen.
We need to hold the police,politicans,etc. to a higher standard.Unless we prefer what is happening in Mexico.
CSMITHERS...its a great big world...go somewhere else you whiney moron. For every incident where police make a mistake there are a thousand examples of bravery...so go find that perfect place with perfect policies and perfect police...I'm sure that the true patriots that love this country and aknowledge that it can never be perfect will gladly fund your one way ticket to anywhere.
Nothing Dorner said contains innate validity. A person who hunts down and murders innocents does not deserve to have anything they claim taken at face value. Later, his claims should be fully and fairly investigated; however, the man is mentally disturbed and for all you know his claims arose from paranoia. Let's not forget who the criminal is here. The criminal is the guy gunning down two innocent young people in a parking lot, simply because the father of the young lady was his defense counsel in a hearing. The criminal is the guy threatening to hunt down and kill the families of his ex-coworkers.
James, I bet you are a cop. Shooting at a truck without even identifying who was in it was not a mistake. It was blind idiocricy and rouge cops like this have no place on the force. This world is not perfect because humans are imperfect. I can't wait till armageddon happens and all human governments are destroyed. Yes, I am a Christian and believe that Satan is the ruler of this imperfect world. 2 Corinthians 4: 3,4 says "If, now, the good news we declare is in fact veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through." Thanks for calling me a whiney moron even though you don't know me at all. I love you as on of Gods children and hope you grow up. Peace be with you.
The way the police are approaching with guns drawn just means that more people are going to be shot accidentally & they will not be charged with any crime. If it was someone other than a policeman & relatives of a law enforcement officer do you think there would be such a man hunt for him? Look at all the overtime it will cost the taxpayers. They could just as easy stake out the people he threaten & wait for him to show up.
What worries me, is the cop running around pointing his gun at everything. If he's paranoid, get him off the street.
We all are on the same streets and don't need to run around with a pistol pointed at everything we look at I hope.
Yeah, Paul, these people get paid to put their lives on the line, and they sure don't appear to be all that brave when they shoot people that turn out to be innocent civilians. They'll put other people's lives on the line, before they'll put their own on the line. Hopefully this guy gets to the people who actually committed the crimes against him. I'm too experienced to naively believe the police are here to protect the people, they're here to protect somebody, but that somebody isn't the law-abiding population.
sorry csmithers...didnt know I was talking to a friggin nut job! Now go take your meds and maybe I'll see you in church.
2 Corinthians 4: 3,4 says "If, now, the good news we declare is in fact veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through."
csmithers
And you have the nerve to talk about blind idiocracy...
These cops should be arrested and charged with attempted MURDER period. There are too many loose cannons in all police departments anymore. PROTECT AND SERVE used to be the motto now they are nothing but thugs in black.
A real reporter would have asked about the newspaper delivery workers murdered by trigger happy LAPD!!
The Police have already opened fire on two innocent people almost killing them by mistake. Kill first ask questions later? No chance to surrender? For some reason they want this guy dead and not talking. It seems they don't want him telling us what he knows they want him silenced.
i read the manifesto and i've gotta say as a white woman married to a black man, he makes some valid points. i do believe that LAPD is still being run like back in the days of darryl gates and mark furhman. i do believe that this guy reported something and did not play along and they were out to get him. however, he went off the rails and turned into a psycho killer and has got to be stopped. he knows they're gonna kill him and for some reason he's at peace with that. his name is all he's got and it meant a lot to him. i hope some day he is vindicated in the stuff about his reporting his fellow cops, he had to know that move was the end of his career and he shoulda been able to move on, that's where he went crazy. i hope they get him soon and i hope he gets to go out in a blaze of glory likes he wants to, he would never make it to trial anyway, they'd figure out a way to eliminate him before that happened.
Wow, this may prove a little too intense for the local cops. Perhaps they should bring in some outside help that might have more level headed thinking going into this. The cops are acting out of blinding hate and revenge right now, they might need to take a second and cool off or something. It's been days and he hasn't struck again..he's probably already in the remorseful stage of what he's done and trying to figure out what he should do next, perhaps he already has and is lying somewhere ready for the police to find.
They are definitely worried, aren't you? If you aren't, you should be. Obviously he is a man that will not "deal" nicely with you if you happen to say something he doesn't like.
How do you suggest they go about it?
The last thing we need is for them to do nothing and let this guy continue his killing spree.
What clean up? Have you worked with the LAPD? What have they done to you exactly? And do you know that man personally? I will give him one thing at least, he mentioned racism from both blacks and whites.
Yes of course they approach with guns drawn, have you seen what the guy has done so far? How would you approach him if you were a cop?
Would you prefer if they let the guy continue his killing spree? Have you ever wronged someone in your life (knowingly or not)? And if so, do you feel they should come after you and your family and kill you all? Or are you certain you never said something that might have pissed someone off? And they are certainly already protecting the people he threatens.
I have read his "manifesto", and the man is, and has been, unstable, for a long long time. Short tempered, becomes quickly aggressive if someone says something he doesn't like. Everyone gets frustrated at work, there is favoritism, and sometimes you have to work with a few jerks, sometimes there is also racism, both ways (white on black and black on white), but most people don't go on a killing spree, they move on. If he hated his workplace so much he should have moved to a different outfit.
Not to mention that he talks about killing children too.
And of course we are to believe that he never wronged anyone, its just everyone else around him who were @!$%#s, he's such a good guy.
And if he believes what he said about gun control, why doesn't he follow his own advice and surrender his guns? I guess, he's just like all the actors who support gun control, while they themselves are armed, have armed bodyguards, costly security systems, and get SWAT teams within a minute or two when their alarm goes off.
They are expending so much manpower because they are afraid of him and they should be.. They shot first and wounded innocents for the same reason.. It's all so sad and wrong.. I feel bad for Chris Dorner but he must be stopped and held accountable for his crimes .. I feel worse for the families of the people he killed.. He knows he's a dead man no matter what..
That guy is in Mexico by now.
No rewards posted yet? I have no doubt his treatment by the LAPD was less than he expected.That agency is held in contempt by many. That he was probably treated unfairly does not make him special....who hasn't been? Does that give him the right to start shooting people? I think Dorner watches too much TV and has a twisted idea of justice. LAPD was not off base at all recognizing him as a serious enough problem to remove from the force.The guy is a nut.
I really believe Dorner was an fairly treated ,been fired he should have get a suspension without pay ,I really believe it was a cover up by LAPD for that lady officer for using excessive force ,making Dorner a liar .Too bad the father of the victim doesn't want to stand his ground and support Dorner for saving his son ,he could have being another KELLY THOMAS case .Now LAPD declares Dorner as mentally ill .Yes after he defended our country and now toss him like a piece of .......of course the guy becomes mentally ill .
I wish they will apprehend him so he can talk more ,but I doubt they will live the case opened .....
MESSAGE TO LAPD, SHAME SHAME SHAME.....NO RESPECT especially what you did to KELLY THOMAS .
About the few references of God and the Bible. Don't be so aragont to count God out. We especially need all the prayers we can get, and we need God, to stop this horrible evil. There is another concept in the Bible; "If my people will humble themselves and pray and seek my forgiveness, then I will heal their land."
JAMES-1956149......yes, there are brave deeds done by cops....but shooting a dozen holes in a panic at 2 unarmed ladies driving by just shows how just plain SCARED they are...and the lack of media coverage shows how BIASED the media is. They ALL want to be the one that gets him...big promotion etc....I have seen too many cases of "I'm a cop and you're not" so do what I say cause the MAN will always believe me...not you.
Wow you folks are sure slamming the good guys with the guns. Their are some of you rooting for the bad guy with the gun. W.T.F. Who ever said you can't fix stupid their right.
Smitty - "Wow you folks are sure slamming the good guys with the guns."
How does opening fire on vehicles simply because they look similar to the vehicle of someone you fear make you a "good guy"?
P.S.
If Dormer had actually been in one of the 2 trucks the police shot up what do you think the police statement would be? Here it is: "Alert police identified the suspect and identified to themselves to him, at which point he aimed a gun at them and they opened fire."
The reality is they opened fire on innocent civilians with zero provocation or even identification, hoping to kill who they thought might be there.
P.P.S
"W.T.F. Who ever said you can't fix stupid their right."
Learn the difference between "their" and "they're"... oh, right, your stupidity can't be fixed.
Dorner was fired in 2008. That was five years ago. Why have the media not picked up on the story of corruption in the LAPD?
Is it because LA is a bastion of liberalism?
The hypocrisy of the Left is unbearable.
MSM covers up Christopher Dorner’s hard-Left political views
What was left out? Quite a bit.
In short, the MSM omitted the parts of the manifesto where Dorner reveals he is a card-carrying liberal Democrat.
http://twitchy.com/2013/02/07/msm-covers-up-christopher-dorners-hard-left-political-views/
What bunch of crap, they only thing they need to open up on Dorner is a m16.
So much for the LAPD's psychological screening of applicates and candidates to join the force. This nut job should've been excluded from the start. He's obviously got anger mgt. issues and a persecution complex. Maybe the LAPD likes these psychos on the job? You reap what you sow, guys. Now take your medicine.
Having read the Dorner Manifesto, I have to say he has made good points and case against the LAPD. Other people have substantiated Dorner's statements. The thing I find most disturbing about this shooter is the fact that he shot the Daughter of the man he accuses of a false defense. Dorner kills her for having the wrong dad. I would hate to be shot for some thing my dad did that I have no idea that it happened and it is secret from my knowledge. How can children be responsible for their father's behavior. Last time I checked at the young age where you are under your dad, it is your dad that tells you what you can and can not do. This guy is the first shooter with real skills. This is the first shooter that is a Real Life "Rambo". I couldn't help but notice that the amount of shooters are increasing. I wonder if all the recent shooters have one thing in common at least on a very subconscious level and that being that THEY all sense the oppression in America today. Do they ALL feel the Foreign Invasion on American soil in the deep subconscious? Ever since Obama took office America has acted more like Europe in one of those Bad movies about the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany so I do wonder if Americans are going off because We have a Natural Knee jerk aversion to such totalitarian regimes. It is against the American grain. It is UN-Natural to us. NOTE: This statement is not in anyway a justification for shooters, just a possible analysis of the shooters emotional state of mind, if only in the subconscious.
I hope they catch this guy before he hurts anyone else. That being said, I have to wonder why he's so angry? If you lie and get fired you'd be angry but if you tell the truth and do the right thing and get fired then that could really eat at a person and maybe that's what happened here (my opinion). I'm a supporter of law enforcement but you have to really wonder about the mental capacity of those 6 cops who mistakenly shot the two women--thet has to rank right up there with dumb and dumber or scared or even more scared. Thank God they didn't kill those women.
What message does it send if the investigation is now reopened? Any people who have a beef with the police can go on a killing spree and have their voices heard?
We have a sickness in this country when a man who kills innocent people is held up as an anti-government hero. His idea of clearing his name is killing people who had nothing to do with the case, yet we're supposed to believe everything else he says? Even the father of the beaten man said Dorner made too much of the incident. Choosing to trust the rantings of madman simply because it affirms your hatred of government is not only foolish but also poisonous.
this is getting a bit comical. these photos of cops in the snow, blizzard conditions up at a ski resort, guns drawn looking around a bush. the only reason an intelligent 6'4 black man on the run would go to the snow would be to leave a false trail.
the most disturbing part of this drama is the shooting of the 2 still unidentified victims by Torrance police. did you see the photo of the truck? why has there been so little coverage of these women and their condition since the 7th?? if it comes out that the cops shot first and asked questions later, like the victims lawyer says, then god help us all.
Please capture or kill that radical, leftist cop-killer.
He has ZERO sympathy from us after he murdered an innocent couple and a policeman.
Why didn't they do a good investigation the first time? Why only now after they realize how dangerous this individual is that they finally take him serious and re open the case? They take his job away from him, Dishonor him, and even though he went all the way to the superior court, they shut him down at every turn hoping he would go away. Well, he isn't and now the police have to do a real investigation and not sweep things under the table like they had hoped.
I feel there are way too many police officers. If they are not in some donut shop somewhere, they are out there staking out roads, giving tickets to hard working Americans in low-accident areas instead of going after real criminals that are in this country illegally, doing far worse than any speeder ever could.
Our police have their priorities all out of order.
Sounds like Dorner has a legitimate beef with the LAPD. So his training officer shows him how to kick the crap out of a homeless person and Dorner turns him in because he feels that is wrong. When did it become OK for a cop to kick a homeless person? And save me the BS that the cop didn't do it. If I was chief Braton I would be on a cruse to nowhere and I would book a round trip. Keep your head down chief, I think Dorner has a bullet with your name on it or possibly one of your family members.
America's needs better lie detector tests, too many people lie and get away with lying.
There were two innocent trucks fired upon. What happened with the second one?
Why isnt Obama appealing to his fellow democrat brother to turn himself in? Why isnt he sending in the feds to protect him from the LAPD?
Someone suggested we hold our police and politicians to a higher standard. Maybe, just maybe we should start with ourselves. We seem to think that it is the "other person" whose standards are in need of improvement, but in many cases it is ours.
Why even post if you are not going to stick with the subject at hand and just go on an Obama bashing spree?
Brenda, explain how appealing to him to turn himself in before more murders occur or trying to protect him from the LAPD who is on a rampage against him bashing Obama? And how is that not on subject?
What would YOUR suggestion be to stop this madness?
Get a life girl!
The one thing I take away from this is, we should all think hard before we screw with someone. I mean from school on. We have all screwed with someone. Think the LAPD Screwed over the wrong guy and they are and are going to pay a heave price for it. This Dude looks like a black terminator. I am glad he isn't looking for me. But As Americans we all need to understand, that he was pushed to this. I think we should come to his aid, and get to the bottom of what caused all this to start with. He didn't just say he seen his boss kick a homeless man for the hell of it. If he was firer for that, then he has a complaint. He has been pushed to far and this is what we get for that.
Actually it is you who needs to get a life, even if a story was about a new kind of chocolate, you would some how blame it on Obama and how he is not monitoring the chocolate industry better to protect society. Little boy, you need to wipe your bottom and move on, your rhetoric is getting stale.
Typical liberal........avoid the question and respond with insults
Where is the best spot to hide from the police? Right in front of them in plain open site.
I'm pretty sure I saw this guy on a State Farm Insurance commercial this morning.
giggle, sure it wasn't Geico. Geico is the one that uses lizrds.
I'm pretty sure it was AllState,...."are you in good hands"?
speakthetruth-2459907 Sure it wasn't "blah blah" insurance :)
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Fruvegge, shame upon you - you are in error on Geico. They have employed only one gecko and it is only a matter of time before he is nominated for an Academy Award - especially since he appeared with Roadrunner and Coyote in that spectacular desert commercial combo for Acme and Geico.
Paul I agree with you and I have a question for Ro Mar without predijuce, How do you know those people he killed are innocent, do you know cpt, officers plan evidence to convict an innocent person. And they do other things besides that. I am not going to prejudge a thing but I am not going to say they were innnocent, heck they could have guns to and they know how to used it, how does he suppost to defend himself, with a water pistol or water rifle. Why than would he be after them if they were after him before hand. You are the type of person that thinks the cops are the best in town and they don't make mistake, yes they are human and make mistakes but shooting carelessly is not a mistake, its an attempt to murder and you fail to see the damage they did to the pick up and the lousy excuse they gave, well they thought it was him so shoot first without asking question.
Not in his case.
pedrora, Quite the wordsmith aren't you? You do realize there is a spell checker embedded in this page?
I'd feel safer if I was being stalked by a small green lizard with assualt weapons.
Something tells me that after he torched his truck he went off somewhere and shot himself in the head [at least I hope he did]........ I'll bet they'll find his body when the weather clears up.
csmithers......well.......If you voted for Obama a second time then you have nobody to blame, but yourself.
I mailed my vote in so you can blame the United States Post Office for delivering it :)
This is Obama's fault? You need another drink of the cool aid, and this time put a couple shots of Whisky in there to dilute it.
Mark....The comment was meant as sarcastic, but you already knew that, didn't you? If all you libtards on other vines can still blame Bush everything that's wrong after 4 years then I can bait you idiots into the same thing.......Mission accomplished "Mr. Kool Aid"
BTW...Voting for yourself doesn't enhance your intelligence, but I'm sure you knew that too.
People need to start lightening up a bit. Don't take everything said on here so literally.
Well excuuuuuuuuse me!
Trilliondollar...so by using your pathetic system of fault...that means 911 was completely the fault of bush and the GOP and nothing to do with the gutless and ridiculous terrorists that actually commit the cowardly acts....right?...friggin idiot. Dimwit whiney rightwing losers like you are always blaming obama for everything and politicizing every tragedy in a sad and desperate effort to convince yourself that your wasted vote on a loser was the smart thing to do...lol...but you already knew that didnt you?
Trilliondollar wannabe, what a punk and sore loser too!
When every comment is a anti Obama rant, no matter what.
We call it Idiot Trolling. What a dipstick.
James.....Actually if I use the libtard logic then 911 was the fault of your hero Clinton as most of the intelligence gathering before the incident happened was on Clintons watch and he did nothing pre-emptive. He did nothing to address the embassy bombings in Africa other than shoot a few cruise missiles than had no effect on Osama other than embolden him to try for 911....But you already knew that James the libtard, didn't you. James...Maybe you can do something constructive like check the tire pressure on both Steamies and your house.
trilliondollar they chose to ignore the information.
Ka Boom! Right on time. What a jack wagon.
The above comment is brought to you by the trillionpenny idiot troll.
Must be a Rush Limpball ditto prick? Faux News Numb Nut? Always ranting ignorantly.
Why is it that more Democrats make up the tax paying work force?
And why are top 10 welfare states all RED states? Because that's where the real losers live.
Steamie.......Go fog up someone else's windshield with your useless hot air. Try to not vote for yourself neaderthal.
Having fun with a retard. Toying with his simple tick like brain. Full stash of Bacardi. I can go all day.
Fact:
People who watch No News are more informed then those who watch Faux News.
When Trolls Attack. A developing story.
Isn't it time for Benghazi update # 10,000,006?
Bet your sorry ass doesn't know who wrote the Biil of Rights? Hint. I went to his university and just by your stupid rants. You're way to dumb to have ever attended. MonkeyBoy
Steamie....I see you enjoy stroking your own ego by continually voting for yourself libtard. Bantering with libtards like you is like paying checkers. It's boring and YOU will always lose. BTW...I don't watch Fox News, but I can see you watch a lot of Chris Matthews and Bill Maher. They are waiting for your sloppy wet kiss.
This is why YOU ARE A RETARD. I'm an independent. Not quite as shallow & narrow minded as you MonkeyBoy. For president, I've has voted GOP 6 times Dem 3 times.
What an patheic assuming jerk wad.
Off-topic:
libtard? Does that word come from an adult? What the hell is wrong with you people?
Both parties are anti-American, the sooner everyone figures that out the sooner the US can begin to recover from our current mess which has been decades in the making on the part of Dems and the GOP.
steamie...ignore trilliondollar...he is likely masterbating to this while watching fox. His double digit IQ prevents him from figuring out that it's actually the trailor dwelling, sister kissing, goat humping maggots like him that are the problem. Completely ignorant, delusional, and uninformed jerkoffs like him can fondle himself all day over this...just let him be and feel comforted that he's just a miserable, angry, tard and life must suck for him...now watch, this is where he makes the typical internet loser claims of being wealthy, successful, good looking, and highly edumacated...lol
Sounds like you need further education about using politically correct terms libtard and that your University didn't do a very good job with you. I never mentioned you were an independent, DNC, or GOP.......Just a libtard that watchs the wrong tv channels!!!...Libtards do come in all shapes, sizes, and forms like your sloped forehead. Another vote for yourself again...Wow you are so popular.
James....Nice move with the trailer thing, but try to think for yourself and stop letting your mother do the computer typing. Go give your hero Michael Moore a big kiss too while you are at it.
TrillionBurntBrainCells:
Please, with the spin move BS. Libtard is a Rush Limpdick word. His army of misinformed idiots use it for anybody that doesn't agree with what the Fat Man says.
Off topic. Rush is a master bullsh!tter. He said he'd move to Costa Rica if Obama won. What a liar.
"trilliondollar", I have never voted.... ever. I do not believe in human governments. They all have failed throughout history. Satan runs human govt. and Jesus said we should be no part of this world.
Steamie...I can see your synapses are not all firing today, because you keep voting for yourself. Alec Baldwin and other actors said they would move out of the USA when Gore lost in 2000. What happened? They are still here in California with the other mental masturbater's. I like using the libtard because it irritates people like you not because Rush uses it. Stop listening to your hero's Bill Maher and Chris Matthews who spew nothing but rhetorical lies.
Trolling Trolling Trolling keep those Nitwits Rolling.
I'm not caught up in all the political crap the way you are. My panties aren't all in a bunch like yours. I have a life unlike a troll like you. I work hard all week and on the weekends I have fun with Bacardi ... You must have been pissed when Obama blew out Romney in November. Way too funny, huh. You must have been "Steamied" the next couple of months.
Plus: I know for a fact that I make more money then your sorry ass. Defense Contractors make way more then MonkeyBoy trolls. Because you're too stupid and narrow minded to qualify for my job.
Plus. Plus. I do baseball. Not idiot opinionated news people. Later La La Loser.
Steamie........Of course you love Obama....You are a defense contractor who sucks the tax life out of the rest of us. When the automatic cuts start then we will see how your little poms poms are big shot. I won't be-labor the point of your salary because that is obviously how you measure the worth of a person, but I can assure you that you don't make more than me. Didn't know you wear panties, but it must be easier for when you finish off that Bacardi bottle and use it on yourself. Just keep voting for yourself as it make you feel good all over with your blinders on
BTW....Obama didn't blow out Romney....A Blow out is when Reagan took 49 states in 1984 against Mundane, but you knew that.....didn't you?
@Trillion...You seem a little bitter...If you are not happy with the elected President, then why don't you run?....And put your money where your mouth is....Instead of spewing off at everyone who does not agree with you....And as far as that goes, just what the Hell does it matter who voted for whom in regards to this forum?....You are obviously more interested in politics....Check out the Mormon Church, and Mitt Romney on the web...I am sure they will both welcome you....
I bet your dumb ass still wears the little helmet that you had to wear while riding the short bus. You are way to funny. You live in California, one of the most liberal states in America. Yet you call anybody who thinks differently then you a libtard. YOU ARE A SIMPLETON. YOU ARE A FOOL.
You still need the helmet, because you keep smashing your poopy pants head into the wall all the time because your heros keep lying to you. Your life MUST suck. MonkeyBoy Troll.
Plus, Einstein. Where did I ever say I voted for anybody at all? I never said who I voted for. What kind of assuming dumb ass are you? You must be a Teabagging Ballsacker?
Tinbashr......Welcome to the conversation....Now you are also fair game, but hope you are a tad bit brighter than your comrades stop voting for yourself
Steamie.....Glad to see your hard worrking weeks lead to your Bacardi drinking and trolling on the vine for over 3 hours
@Trillion....One last thing....Romney has been in politics, for what?..The last 30 years?...And has gotten absolutly NOWHERE....Pretty much says it all....He needs to go back on a mission with the Mormon church...As he obviously did not learn anything on his first one...
You trolled first numb nuts! I'm just getting by weekend buzz on, watching college basketball ... I surely don't take myself as seriously as the way you do of yourself.
Fact: I'm having a blast. Every comment I make gets a retard reply. Making you the TROLL. MonkeyBoy.
Steamie.....I'm actually enjoying myself just knowing I'm pi$$ing you and others off. The longer you stay on big shot with your trailer park rebuttals the bigger kick I get egging you on. As I said before, bantering with you it like slamming an 18 year old. Im getting a blast seeing you try to enhance your intelligence by VOTING for yourself again and again. Going on 3.5 hours trolling Steamie.....Hows your pitiful life?
Screw you dude, I'm on vacation at the beach. Wearing my swim trunks. Playing on my lap top at the Tiki Bar. Having a blast at your expense. I will have the last word. MonkeyBoy Troll. Ha ha Ha.
And just to piss you off. I voted myself up. Laughing soooo hard I need to blow my nose before I choke on snot bubbles.
Hey lady, you got a tissue?
Are there any adults posting today? Grow up.
Would you guys just STOP! Kindergarten behavior and throwing temper-tantrums.
Can you think about something before making things awful?
Steamie......I'm the one who is laughing at your less than original comments. Try being creative and coming up with some of your own vocabulary rather than plagiarising others. Oh that's right, you can't, because when you were in college you were skipping your English class with your friends smoking pot. How's your selfish voting coming along LIBTARD?
@trillion....We are all fair game...Goes with the territory....Gotta go now....The oil patch is calling....As I run derrick on a slant/service rig....Best of luck with the politics.....
Yo Retard! Bacardi is not weed. MonkeyBoy Troll. You are at hour 4 trolling, douche bag.
Original thought? Give me a break! All you have is you 7th grade "libtard".
I will get the last word. I NEVER lose at this game.
Time to vote myself up. :)
ha ha ha
Another comment from the peanut gallery. All you have is punk and dude....I see you learned a lot of 4 letter words in college.......Another vote for the Bacardi lush boy... I don't capitulate to contractors on the government dole
Nice, rapid fire reply. Stalking MonkeyBoy Troll.
Why you are as dumb as a brick:
Because you've commented on everything I've said. Some facts - some lies, but like the stupid person you are. You can't help yourself. You blast away like a drooling helmet head.
Have a nice day Tinsbashr!
chief1055, They are what is wrong with this country.
Steamie....And you are as dumb as the coat hanger your mother should have used on you Bicardi lush boy
At least my parents love each other. Maybe you're bitter and angry because your whore mom delivered the first ever live anal baby!
Voting up.
How do you really know they LOVE eash other coat hanger Bicardi lush baby? They certainly did a horrible job raising you, but maybe that was their way of revenge on society.
trilliondollar, Delussional name for a person not worth 2 cents. I bet your one of those idiots screaming about food stamps but use them more then anybody else.
Rush Limbaugh made you stupider. Voting up.
Steamie Bicardi Boy.....Nice try.....Never used them, but since you brought up the topic I have heard that nearly 50 million Americans are using them now on your heros watch. (A new record)
I bet you are one of those students in college who had your parents call the professor when you got a grade you didn't like or when your boss gave you a performance appraisal you didn't like.
BTW....Please use the spell and grammar check when posting.....It will help your cause.
MonkeyBoy Troll,
I bet you this much. Anybody so dumb as to troll back and forth with a drunk for 5 hours is either a loser or a sucker. I bet you suck at losing. Plus, I bet you're so lame that like a TRUE TROLL you were so lazy that you didn't even vote last November.
Steamie Bicardi Lush boy.....It's just amazing how many times you are wrong about things and people in your pathetic life. I always vote and as long as I'm around I intend to be a thorn in the sides of libtards like you.
I have to admit that you will be right about 1 thing ONLY....You will have the last word LUSH because after 5 hours I DO have a life and have to entertain some friends at a fine dining establishment. Something you may know nothing about.
Oh, I see, your buying a free round of dinner for all your slub friends at the local soup kitchen.
Being a thorn in they side can be a good thing but while being a dumb ass, not so good.
Congratulations! 46 posts that are nothing but juvenile political bickering that has nothing to do with the subject. What a bore.
California Nurse.....Wow you took the time to count....More than anybody else did, but it got your attention.....Mission accomplished.
He is going to be shot by the goon squad for exposing their dirty secrets. What he did in response is not very rational. If he is going to get revenge on the people who railroaded him so be it, but leave their families out of it. The MURDER of the 2 women just shows the shoot first mentality of cops now days. Most have a GOD complex that they think they can do whatever they want and will be able to get away with it. When they do shot someone they are investigated by other cops and it is usually determined to be justifyable. Of course. If some of these crooked cops are @!$%#ting their pants right now that they might be next, maybe they will think twice about messing up peoples lives because they have a badge.
the only one with a GOD complex is the gutless little b*tch that thinks his worthless name is more valuable than the innocent lives of fathers, brothers, sisters, and children and that they should die because this stupid fk lost his job...are you kidding me! People that support ANY of this jerkoffs story are nearly as pathetic as he is. You dont even know if he's just lying about the whole damn thing. I will celebrate when his self absorbed brain is splattered on the ground and his wasted life is terminated without any mercy! God bless the brave men and women that risk their lives to protect my family and to hell with the losers that expect perfection from every person but themselves! Every single person that hates the police is just another POS that got caught and blames others for their criminal behavior. You are exactly the scum that the brave police yank out of society in order for us to live without fear...now comes your false claims of being a law abiding citizen,,right?...buh buh buh bullsh*t!...lol..way ahead of ya loser!
James, Typical lib response, calling names, trying to humiliate someone because they don't agree with you. I'm 51 yrs old and have never been in jail or arrested, make $200,000 a yr. You sir are what is wrong with this country.
Have a great day slave
So James, are the police officers who opened fire on a pick-up truck with defenseless women inside without following protocol....criminals? They did shoot innocent citizens, just like the idiot they are chasing. What gives law enforcement free reign to go open season on Americans? You need to back off and consider the people's who's lives these officers have affected and the trust that continues to be lost when law enforcement continue to make these mistakes. And by the way, I do expect perfection, when it could have been my son's in the truck that was senselessly riddled with bullets.
I'm betting James is really LAPD- a corrupt collection of criminals. Let us not forget Rampart, and the other numerous criminal scandals--including the murder of innocent citizens-- which have happened down there- -not to mention the ones which have never been brought to light.
First to "worn out"..my face hurts from laughing at you predictable claims of success...hilarious loser. To Chuck Muirhead..you dont even consider the position the police were in idiot. Yah they screwed up but that nearly identical truck took the exit towards a mentioned target, turned down the targets street and was slowing down to a crawl, turned off the headlights, and rolled down the windows just as they were approaching one of the main targets listed in that maggots ranting letter. I know they didnt do anything to deserve being shot but the police are being hunted and those actions, although innocent, were also indicative of a drive by shooting...the police screwed up but they have had thousands of encounters and it ridiculous that your tiny mind chooses to define the entire profession by focusing on one mistake...now stfu!
Back in the 60s. The people in my neighborhood,thought the police were the criminals and murderers! So everyone don't look at the police as peace officers.Every deadly riot that happen after 1960 Newark, detroit, LA etc: was because of some police action. There was a time when NYPD couldn't get any information in my neighbohood They were really hated around here.They will kill this guy soon;a big guy like him can't hide long. I'm looking for him to strike again!!
@wornout Two women were shot, not murdered. The officers should be charged with attempted murder or reckless endangerment.
Maybe we need some candy asssss liberal as yourself protecting us eh little man.
Imagine millions of angry rogue gun owners on the streets if you try to pass illegal gun laws !!!
nice threat moron...the "rogue" gun owners are the problem..theyre called punk gang banging cowards...have ya heard of them? All you idiots that act like guns will be taken away are just pathetic...at no time has anyone said anything about handguns or hunting rifles. There is simply no need for military style assault rifles on our streets! Stick to the issue and stop being a paranoid, gun kissing, idiot! We will still have our handguns and all the "angry rogue" gun owners that rise up to threaten harm over assault rifles will be obliterated by the responsible gun owners that are sick of the carnage that you ignore!
there is a need for those military assault rifles ,to protect us from a tyrannical gov't as well as a police state with crooked cops running amuck ,its called a "balance of power" so it don't become a "police state" the police are suppose to be "peace keepers" not power control freaks ,the police are suppose to be political neutral by law ,but they ARE NOT ...they are suppose to be PUBLIC SERVANTS ,not be served by the public as they have it now they are suppose to be serving us,not the other way around ,same goes for ALL THE CROOKED POLITICIANS ,THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO BE PUBLIC SERVANTS ,BUT ALL OF THEM WANT THE PUBLIC SERVE THEM ,AND THEY EXEMPT THEMSELVES FROM THE LAWS THAT THEY PASS or want us to follow ,but they don't have too ,its all "smoke &mirrors" for the crooks in office
James is an idiot, lets not indulge his tough guy antics. He will be one of the first ones in a FEMA camp getting cornholed by his police masters. So James you can STFU also.
Mark...please take your meds and go lay down. Paranoid govt haters that want to kill the police if they try to take over the country, like yourself, are exactly the mental midgets that we dont want having assault rifles...actually parnoid and delusional dimwits like you shouldnt even have a sling shot...now get to your meds before they morph into a conspiracy and take over the world.
Yeah this is what we need more trigger happy police on the streets. L.A police have a history of being out of touch
Dorners exhibits signs and behaviors of severe mental illness. Hope this murdering psycho gets his due, not just arrested and exonerated because he's insane.
Bill.....Don't be surprised if the burned out pickup was a diversionary tactic
Initially, I was leaning toward the deliberate diversionary tactic theory, until I read the details of his odd behaviors even before he was fired from the LAPD. Appears this dude was on his way "south" long before he was dismissed.
Bush, Cheney, Obama, Patraeus all exhibit signs of disturbed psychopaths as well having murdered thousands of people, yet they smile and get high dollar paychecks.
You are correct the first sign of his mental illness is when he voted for Obama.
Bill...you may be right, but he has also had 4 years to stew about his termination and make a plan. Mentally ill people still have the capacity to have detailed plans...Never underestimate. You would think if they haven't found him by now that he already finished himself off in a remote area, but his manifesto suggests his mission isn't finished yet.
diversionary tactic?...so you think this genius broke his own truck axle before he set the trap?...he was stuck... Stop commenting on things that you dont even know about.
James.....I can comment on 1 fact that I know about....You are a a delusional 100% libtard who thinks he knows everything about everything............You also think if he wanted to put some distance between himself and the law that he torch his vehicle so it could be seen for miles and found quickly. Your clueless handle on reality is evident.
Sooooo Shallow & Narrow Minded. Does your dumb ass know any other word than Libtard?
Ditto Head Dill Weed.
Do you know how to do anything except vote for yourself?
Way too funny.
MonkeyBoy Troll Really Hates That We Vote Ourselves Up.
He Must Have "Steamie" boiling out the top of his nitwit head?
Steamie........Too bad you have nothing to say....Keep voting Bacardi BOY. How many bottles have you finished off today lush.
MonkeyBoy,
The name is Boybacardi, you dipsh!t. I drink enough to not make myself look as stupid like you. Yourself, no doubt you are on Meds. All that anger & bitterness. Please. Who do you think you are you? The shiny little peice of corn at the end of a big 'ol stinking poop.
Steamie Bicardi boy......Now you have sunk to examining your own poop for corn.....So do you run to your Mother and just to show her what you did?......You never cease to amaze Mr. Lush
MonkeyBoy Troll, My mom is dead ass wipe!
and you can't find yours because she said screw this and bailed on your dumb ass.
Steamie Bicardi Boy......Wrong again......How can someone like you live with yourself being wrong as much as you are. Quite an achievement Lush!
monkeyboy troll, the bitter and salty one. it most really suck always picking the la la losing side
Steamie Lush Bicardi Boy............Bitter and Salty? Sounds like what my girlfriends in college use to say after a BJ....I'm afraid to ask how you know LUSH
MonkeyBoy Troll,
Bank money says the only bj you ever got was from one of your same minded anti gay butt buddy guys.
Steamie Bacardi Lush BOY..........How's your hangover lush? Mixing Bacardi and your friends salty/ bitter taste in your mouth has to feel real good
My fee advice to the LAPD- Using camoflauge in an area covered with snow doesn't make sense. My advice, get your cops out of the way, and bring in Biathletes from the US Team. Give them all white uniforms, and let them hunt down that rogue cop. They'll get him in a few hours. They could just wing him, so he could be brought in and tried in a court of law. That way all these ignorant sympathizers could see this guy is nuts.
It is NOT nuts to be angry for losing your job and military status for turning in an abusive fellow officer. It IS nuts to kill in revenge.
Finland's Army or police would have already caught the guy in the snow. The LAPD are psycho thugs shooting two paper deliverers without warning.
I have to agree with the person that posted that they have a GOD like attitude.. it is unfortunate... we can't count on cops to be safe anymore.
Drew Peterson is the person that comes to mind when i think of cops. I think that is why people are thinking on guns these days.. one person stated "carring a gun is easier than carrying a cop"
so pathetic when people like you ignore the tens of thousands of brave officers and choose to define police by the actions of one or two every year. I guess with your dimwit theory, the fact that this guy is black means all blacks are cop killing cowards and all whites are children slaughtering maggots?...have some damn class and appreciation for the hundreds of cops that die every year while protecting us and quit sympathizing with cowardly punks like the dirtbag that will soon be extinguished!
@JAMES-1956149 what about the thousands of cops who shake down and rob the public that they are suppose to be serving EVERYDAY???what about all the ones who think they are better then everyone else ? what about the thousands who just don't give a sh!t and do nothing ,what about the thousands who just milk it all for the overtime as we have to pay them on our "dime" while they don't do anything to deture the crime,but wasting taxpayer money with over time
Do a search Jimbo it is way more than one or two a year. You will be shocked at what you find. Start in Texas with the two women who had their rectum and vaginas searched by using the same glove. All cops are for the most part is revenue generators, they sure don't protect and only serve their masters.
esta cabron que te lanzen una lluvia de balas por andar en un carro parecido al de la persona que buscan...
I hope they put this monster out of his missery soon.
Hopefully they will put this POS Down like the mad dog he is.
Shouldn't be surprised when the Pit Bull you abuse turns on you?
go dorner kill as many as these jerk offs as you can you know they are not going to let him live killers with badges that's all the cops are today he was probably one of the honest ones before they fired him for nothing look how paranoid this pussy's are there scared of one man that's all cops are is bully's when you come head on that's what a bully do is fold
hopefully he comes for you and the pathetic family that produces scumbags like you...friggin little punk! No doubt that youre just another dropout POS that has never done anything for anybody and we will better better off without maggots like you....now comes the claims of being a successful man that gives away millions to charities..right?...idiot!
call in the national guard for laughs and giggles.
Where's obama and his drone squad?
Continuing programs began by bush and his.
Really folks, if you don't get that it is both parties taking away our rights, and that have turned this country more and more into a police state, then you have your head buried very deeply in the sand.
Obumer wants nothing to do with this,if you read Chris's manifesto,he is an obama piers morgan lover.
This reminds me of the movie First Blood, when police in Washington State are trying to catch Rambo in heavily-wooded, mountainous terrain.
now that was a pretty good movie which I enjoy, silverster stallon is a good actor. And yes he did do alot of damage to that place, but its only in the movies people which could become reality, jajajaa. And they are jelous of us whom are trained better then them in combat, but its a role that I don't care to pertake.
I believe he was the initial victim, I don't condone the civillian deaths, but I don't naively believe the police are always good. Many of the worst crooks in the US are within the various levels of government and law enforcement institutions in this country.
All John Rambo wanted was to get something to eat but that damn sheriff had to be an a$$hole.
Rambo took place in Oregon and not in Washington.
First Blood took place in the fictional town of Hope, Washington. The film was actually taped in British Columbia.
Well they say a picture tell 1000 words and by going by the photo of the cop that is holding his gun out ready to shoot anything that moves as they open the truck, well that tells me they have not understand the message that was sent to them when they shot up the pick up truck. I am telling you all these people are trigger happy and when that happens anything and everything will go wrong at one point. Abviously the driver of the truck told him he did not have him on the back of the truck and did not take his word for it.
you dont know much about fighting an armed enemy do ya?...go away.
He's covering his fellow officer(s).
The sad part is, is that Christopher Dorner is probably watching the teli some place or with some way to see the news and he's probably loving all this.
I agree. Sad but most probably true.
This whole scenario makes me think about movies like "The Fugitive" when one man is wrongfully accused by everyone and is set out to be captured dead or alive.
Over the years cops have changed. They used to be human beings, you could talk to them. Now the only reason they start a conversation with a person is if they wanted to get something on them. This change was brought about slowly, incrementally through training. Most of which was paid for by the Federal Government. Now we torture and kill children to effect change all over the world. We used to be the most loved country in the world, now we are the most hated. If we dont regain control of this government we will lose this country. Its starts with a new amendment to the constitution. It would state that 1) anyone in government that lies or omits the truth would be charged with lying to the American people and would get as minimum of 5 years in prison. 2) Anyone obstructing someone who was trying to expose a wrong doing by a government employee would get 20 years. No gag orders, no trials held in secret, no exclusion of Habeas Corpus, and get rid of the Patriot act. NO MORE TORTURE. NO PERSONS WITH DUAL CITIZENSHIP IN GOVERNMENT.
I am all for that, with the exception of duel citizenship, I have a duel citizenship and their is nothing wrong with that.
Law Biding Citizen
i love how people keep on saying that the police have such a dangerous job and thats why we should accept their actions. Bs, they arent even in the top ten of hazardous careers. it is more dangerous to be a farmer than a cop. stop putting police on a pedestal and just realize that they are people taking advantage of the system to satisfy their own vendetta to get back at the people that picked on them in high school
Tell that to the 126 families whose law enforcement members did not return home last year. That statistic is based on rate, so some small occupations which are admittedly dangerous are high on the list, but only two of them had more total deaths. As far as taking advantage of the system, get your lazy ass out of bed at 10PM and leave your home for a tour of duty picking up filthy drunks, drug addicts and losers. Or maybe you'll be on the receiving end of that. Your vitriol obviously points to a negative experience. How high were you when you got busted?
Goldfish, I've worked with cops, the worst of them are like rabid animals foaming at the mouth wanting to bite, sometimes you need to pull hard on the leash to get them back in line. And yes some of them are lazy, stupid, and take advantage of the taxpayer dime. Sorry to spoil your false heroic image of what cops really are.
Cutting timber is more dangerous than being a cop, and a lot harder work as well, you don't get paid to sit on your ass in a patrol car munching on doughnuts and drinking coffee while on the government dime.
They have their hands full. I hope the ladies they shot "accidentally" get a lot of money. Don't they train them to be sure before you pull the trigger? Just because you see a truck like his doesn't give you the right to open fire on the occupants. That is like the NY cops that got nine civilians when they shot the intended target ten times out of seventeen shots fired. Being that trigger happy they are a threat to the civilians. They become the crazed shooter or mass murderer that they are supposedly protecting us from. Gun control is a good holster and being able to hit your target.
Mm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He will call the army on the phone
kill this bastard, send a drone
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said we must kill him today
He has a round of golf to play
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said to keep this short and sweet
He wants to shoot a round of skeet
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Barack Hussein Obama
He said red, yellow, black or white
A drone don't care whats in it's sight's
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So the trail is growing cold. Back to beating people, as usual. When Dorner resurfaces, again, the story will be back on the front page.
You need a good beating! Try being a cop for a change. Not easy. Stupid, high on drugs, drunk, high speed chase Rodney King killed my employer in Compton and 350 people were out of work because he lived as an idiot and died as an idiot. He barely missed several pedestrians. He didn't care. Watch the video over and over. He never once complied with what was being shouted at him, he kept getting up when he was repeatedly told to lay down, he kept swinging at police. They were trained to hit with a club or shoot people like that. He was lucky he lived. He later died and drug addicted moron. Sounds like you are on the same path.
"Rodney King killed my employer in Compton and 350 people were out of work because he lived as an idiot and died as an idiot. He barely missed several pedestrians. He didn't care. Watch the video over and over. He never once complied with what was being shouted at him, he kept getting up when he was repeatedly told to lay down, he kept swinging at police.
See? Exactly what I meant that the LA police is nothing but a bunch of racist lying thugs.
Hey Stew - they want to be thought of as the good guys then act like the good guys. Here's a clue - don't shoot up a vehicle that you "think" belongs to a suspect and unjustifiably wound a 70 year old lady and her daughter. That kind of thing makes you look like the bad guy. Next - after chasing down a bad guy don't beat him mercilessly because you're angry about what he did. That makes you look like a bad guy. Don't get caught over and over again planting evidence and taking bribes. That makes you look like the bad guys. Don't lie to cover up for your policeman buddies - that makes you the bad guy.