Police: 4 wounded in shooting on New Orleans' Bourbon Street

Updated at 6:35 a.m. ET: Two men and two women were shot in New Orleans' Bourbon Street after gunfire broke out while crowds gathered in the countdown to annual Mardi Gras festivities, police said on Sunday morning. 

Three of the victims were listed in stable condition while a male victim underwent surgery and was listed in critical condition, New Orleans Police spokesman Frank Robertson said.  

The shooting happened at around 9:30 p.m. (10:30 p.m. ET) after one of the victims got into an argument with two men, Robertson said. 

The two men left but soon returned, according to police.  One then shot one of the victims in the abdomen, upper thigh and pelvic area, and fled the scene, Robertson said.  

Police released video filmed by a bystander on a private camera that showed a crowded and chaotic street scene.

According to the police, the footage shows the two men arguing with the first victim and leaving the scene.  They soon return and start shooting the first victim. 

In addition to the first victim, one woman was shot in the buttocks and a second in the chin and right foot. As second male victim was shot in the toe, police said. 

The Associated Press earlier reported the following: 

Patrick Clay, 21, an LSU student, told The Times-Picayune he was standing on the corner of Bourbon Street when suddenly he saw a crowd running and people screaming that there was a shooting. 

"Everyone immediately started running and the cops immediately started running toward where people were running from," Clay said. "I was with a group of about seven people and at that point we all just kind of grasped hands and made our way through the crowd as soon as possible."

Afterward, police moved in to investigate. Many revelers said they stayed hunkered down in bars and other establishments until police cleared them to move freely.

Crowds gather each year in New Orleans' French Quarter for celebrations that build to a climax on Fat Tuesday, which this year falls on February 12. 

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Finally, New Orleans getting back to normal after Katrina.

  • 25 votes
#1 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:53 AM EST

We definitely don't have a gun problem in this country. /s

  • 11 votes
#1.1 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:13 AM EST

Never,

You are right, but we sure as he!! have a people problem, nuts, crooks, robbers and those who just don't care about any laws. Lets start working on the nut and robber people, only then can we expect to make any headway.

  • 25 votes
#1.2 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:44 AM EST

Let's work on both issues at the same time, MNJL170.

  • 8 votes
#1.3 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:47 AM EST

What are the chances the shooters were visiting from Chicago?

  • 13 votes
#1.4 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:56 AM EST

Just some more of that Deep South Hospitality.

    #1.6 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:52 AM EST

    the black gangs in New Orleans are among the most violent in the Nation, there are large areas in the city, where no white person will go; the gang members always end any disagreement with shooting, when they arrest this guy, he will probably have a police rap sheet 3 pages long.

    • 14 votes
    #1.7 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:11 AM EST

    saxon,

    Sad, but true. A friend of mine, who is a successful lawyer, lived in N.O. in a very nice town home. His home was two blocks from what was commonly called The Congo. He said that even the cops were wary of entering The Congo.

    • 10 votes
    #1.8 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:29 AM EST

    Never,,,, we know that gun control laws don't work,

    From the Chicago Sun Times,

    Updated: February 10, 2013 12:57AM

    Six people have been wounded in shootings across the city since Friday night, police said.

    The most recent shooting happened Saturday night when a man walked into Little Company of Mary Hospital and Health Care Centers in Evergreen Park with a gunshot wound to the hand about 10:15 p.m., police said.

    We should stop waisting time on new gun control laws and work on the real problem, people and the sick society we now have.

    • 11 votes
    #1.10 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:42 AM EST

    I see that this seed has been hijacked by NRA-paid ($7.25/hr with no benefits) and NRA sycophants.

    Heck of a job, NRA.

    • 5 votes
    #1.11 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:14 AM EST

    Never,,

    I am not paid by the NRA, that is just a silly comment.

    Now, you mentioned we should work on both issues, I agree. We need to work on finding a way to get the guns out of the hands of "nut cases" and bad guys. We need to enforce the laws now on the books and stiffen the sentences. I think the so called "gun show loophole, straw purchasers" needs work. Accepting the fact that "crooks" don't give a rats a$$ about laws we then need focus on getting and keeping guns out of those hands. Do I have all the answers, NO, but more laws will do nothing. It is already against the law to shoot someone, some don't care, they are the problem.

    By attacking someone all we will do is divide this country further..

    • 12 votes
    #1.12 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:31 AM EST

    Yep. Making it harder or impossible for tens of millions of law-abiding white citizens throughout the country is going to really put a stop to the black gang violence in the Big Easy and Chi-Town.

    Yeah. Right. Sure.

    • 8 votes
    #1.13 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:36 AM EST

    Never Stop - be easy on the NRA/Hillbillies/Terrorist. They don't know the difference between a sycophant and a Cyclops. Their alphabet consist of NRA, NSSF and GUN.

    • 3 votes
    #1.14 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:39 AM EST

    No doubt NRA members. Sarcasm off.

      #1.15 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:44 AM EST

      Where did this dude learn to shoot?

      • 1 vote
      #1.16 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:58 AM EST
      bow2meDeleted

      Rev J Wright

      Never Stop - be easy on the NRA/Hillbillies/Terrorist. They don't know the difference between a sycophant and a Cyclops. Their alphabet consist of NRA, NSSF and GUN.

      Ahhh, name calling combined with assumed intellectual superiority. Marks of a thoughtful, well reasoned and persuasive argument.

      • 6 votes
      #1.18 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:07 PM EST

      You can take the person out of the jungle, but you can't take the jungle out of the person. My guess is this shooter doesn't worry about a "Background Check". Only law-abiding citizens completes the Background Check" and the Paperwork.

      • 5 votes
      #1.19 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:43 PM EST

      It was all a terrible misunderstanding. The victims were sitting in a pickup. The shooters thought it was Donner and were only trying to stop him.

      • 1 vote
      #1.20 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:57 PM EST

      See now this was a huge mistake on the part of that shooter. We don't care when it's black-on-black crime, but when the brothers start shooting in our direction that changes everything. Sh!t's about to get serious down in N'awlins...

        #1.21 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:45 PM EST

        You people are unbelievable. Nothing was said about the races of the people involved. You idiots don't think white people shoot white people? Seriously? And where did the gang warfare come from? Like the gangs are going to be on Bourbon St at Mardi Gras with the place teeming with cops.

        Bunch of ignorant idiots!

        • 2 votes
        #1.22 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:09 PM EST

        Me thinks you be the idiot, Mike.

        1. It was a black shooting a white and if you had taken the time to watch the video you would have seen that.

        2. Neither black nor hispanic gangs are intimidated by the cops so their presence was irrelevant.

        But hey, don't take my word for it, Mr. tolerant bleedin' heart liberal. Take your white a$$ to N'awlins, start walking down Bourbon street, and then just randomly choose a dark side street and go for a stroll. C'mon, don't be afraid.

        Remember, they all love you because you love all of them, huh? :-)

        • 1 vote
        #1.23 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:28 PM EST

        Carryingconcealed:

        True dat.

        I think he's also enjoy a few neighborhoods in Chicago. Perhaps he could wear a shirt saying "This is a gun free person."

          #1.24 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:33 PM EST
          Reply

          Time for strict gun restrictions.

          • 5 votes
          Reply#2 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:55 AM EST

          Yeah that way only trigger happy cops will have them? So lets see here, a criminal (a person who does not follow laws) with a "gun" attacked 4 law abiding people with out guns and shot them. I rest my case.

          • 24 votes
          #2.1 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:24 AM EST

          LynyrdSky

          No suspect had been identified, Reuters quoted Robertson as saying.

          How do you know the shooter was already a criminal when he/she started shooting?

          • 5 votes
          #2.2 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:36 AM EST

          Hummmmmmmmmmmmmm There are more words in the comment section than in the story!

          Summation ... "there were shots on Bourbon St in New Orleans ...." not much of a story ..

          • 1 vote
          #2.3 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:24 AM EST

          How do you know the shooter was already a criminal when he/she started shooting?

          Nobody is a criminal before they become a criminal and in many cases it is a gun that is involved in that cross over from the law abiding citizen to the criminal threshold.

          You can kill as many people as you want with a gun and are not a criminal until you get caught, prosecuted and convicted. Then you become a criminal.

          • 1 vote
          #2.4 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:53 AM EST

          Um . . . what race were the two who were shot? We read in plain English the shooters were black males. Did I miss something here? (Maybe I need to watch the video.)

          • 8 votes
          #2.5 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:14 AM EST

          Well hand guns are made for killin'
          They ain't no good for nothin' else
          And if you like to drink your whiskey
          You might even shoot yourself
          So why don't we dump 'em people
          To the bottom of the sea
          Before some ole fool come around here
          Wanna shoot either you or me

          Lynyrd Skynyrd

          • 5 votes
          #2.6 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:50 AM EST

          The same current approach to gun control is what is causing the hysteria leading to such outcomes

          • 7 votes
          #2.7 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:16 AM EST

          Time for strict gun restrictions,,,, yup

          From the Chicago Sun Times

          Updated: February 10, 2013 12:57AM

          Six people have been wounded in shootings across the city since Friday night, police said.

          The most recent shooting happened Saturday night when a man walked into Little Company of Mary Hospital and Health Care Centers in Evergreen Park with a gunshot wound to the hand about 10:15 p.m., police said.

          How are those strict gun restrictions working out for Chicago? Oh, not so good.

          • 5 votes
          #2.8 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:46 AM EST

          starbuck49

          LynyrdSky, How do you know the shooter was already a criminal when he/she started shooting?

          Just playing the odds.

          "Every time a cow is brought into a butcher shop, there is a chance the cow will kill the butcher. Smart money is on the butcher."

          • 7 votes
          #2.9 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:50 AM EST

          Thousands of guns given to Mexican drug gangs; let's take guns away from honest citizens. Remember, the "assault rifle" up in Conn was still in the back of the shooter's car. None of the multiple death shootings of late have been with "assault weapons". Dimwit Biden is educated by television; the "point from the hip and spray bullets" guns have been outlawed in the USA since 1932! All of this gun control issue is decoy to take our focus off the lack of production, jobs and healthy economy. The job issue will NOT be helped by amnesty for 20,000 illegal aliens, protected by Obama with his suspension of enforcement of immigration laws. (His big donors hire the illegals.)

          • 5 votes
          #2.10 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:06 PM EST

          takenada -- this shooter would have had a weapon regardless of ANY Gun Control Laws. The only way to stop the killing is to kill those that kill law-abiding citizens.

          • 3 votes
          #2.11 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:46 PM EST

          we need more gun controll like we need nazi rule!!! look you idiots we bieng set up by media they report only the bad stuff on guns and never the good. These moronic dumb f---s want to make every thing look bad and the bad look good anything the president does is good and public bad because they are told to do so by ??? they dont want to work hard like the police good example the San Fransisco police commisinar has not drawn a weapon in 20 years even for quaifaction!!! the police cant protect you goverment WONT protect you they want you as a slave and you want gun controll!?! I would suggest people pull their head out of their ass and wake up to the fact your have been duped and druged ito a state of lethargy where you don't want to fight back or wont fight back because your to interested in you prescribed drug of choice or your common street dealer because that is where a;; the trouble is NOT THE F---N TOOL which is the gun. A car water or a hospital trip can kill you just as quick!!!

            #2.12 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:32 PM EST
            Reply

            The NRA says that the only thing to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. So where was the good guy this time? Somehow the good guy never seems to show up.

            • 7 votes
            Reply#3 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:37 AM EST

            I think the paper delivery people in LA had wished the Good Guys with Guns hadn't shown up.

            • 18 votes
            #3.1 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:47 AM EST

            Hogwash. Lib. If you don't want to carry don't. But you have a lot of gall to place rules on me based on WHAT you believe. Too bad there was not a armed citizen in the crowd.

            • 4 votes
            #3.2 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:48 AM EST

            Maybe the 'good guy' already had his weapon taken away by the Obama brown shirts. The 'good guy' could not do much with his pair of scissors.

            • 2 votes
            #3.3 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:12 PM EST

            Since most "gun packers" live in places where the closest supermarket is two days away, they never get a chance to show up and shoot the bad guy because nobody lives there. In most urban or even suburban areas people can't carry guns without breaking some law which is why the "good gun" theory is the most idiotic concept ever invented.

            • 2 votes
            #3.4 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:35 PM EST
            Reply
            Comment author avatarDana Michellevia Facebook

            this just proves we need to ban the use of alcohol, stupid religious traditions, guns and raucous, trashy public behavior. its the only way to keep our cities safe.

            or - better yet - just blame it on the guns. an AWB or hi cap mag ban would surely have prevented this tragedy.

            • 11 votes
            Reply#4 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:38 AM EST

            DANA thak you for pointing out the idiots are drunk because guns and alcohol DONT MIX its just like driving drunk

              #4.1 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:38 PM EST
              Reply

              let the ''good'' times roll....?? yea... ok

              • 4 votes
              Reply#5 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:18 AM EST

              lets get more and more and more guns!
              That's the solution !

              • 5 votes
              Reply#7 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:31 AM EST

              Agree totally, but make sure to bring enough ammo. Since the Golden Rule is on the endangered species list.

              • 7 votes
              #7.1 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:37 AM EST

              stonepipe2

              Agree totally, but make sure to bring enough ammo.

              gm stonepipe

              Agreed. As they so often like to point out, I may be killed with my own pistol. If that happens, however, they're gonna have to beat me to death with it, because it's gonna be empty.

              • 5 votes
              #7.2 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:53 AM EST

              GM and top of the day, Bill!

              • 1 vote
              #7.3 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:13 PM EST
              Reply

              Should've let the sea reclaim that moldy old turd of a town

              • 17 votes
              Reply#8 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:47 AM EST

              What about Sandy Hook?

              Is it worth the billions of federal dollars to rebuild it right there on the coast when the weather patterns are changing and it's likely another storm may wipe it out again fairly soon?

              New Orleans has been wiped out once... Sandy Hook once. Why is one more dispensable than the other to you? Because you don't like the people who live there, or their life style?

              • 8 votes
              #8.1 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:22 AM EST

              He didn't mention Sandy Hook.

              • 4 votes
              #8.2 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:02 AM EST

              It’s not a sea, it's a gulf.
              If you are going to make an absurd joke at least have the intelligence
              to make the correct references.

              • 3 votes
              #8.3 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:58 AM EST

              Amen brother....I agree with you. It is nasty.

              • 1 vote
              #8.4 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:47 AM EST

              Zheng He

              He didn't mention Sandy Hook.

              No, of course not... but I did.

              He just wants to let New Orleans wash on out into the sea. Don't rebuild it. It's a waste of money. The people aren't worth the effort.

              But Sandy Hook now... that's New England. They literally speak a different language. They are worth saving... time and time again, no matter how many billions of dollars it takes. And any oil refineries around New Orleans and surrounding areas... well, just write them off. Rebuild them in Sandy Hook, that might justify rebuilding the area.

              • 4 votes
              #8.5 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:53 AM EST

              it's not worth the Money. To continue to do the same and expect a different behavior is just stupid. Considering it's part of my money going into rebuilding a mismanaged City whose Mayor was convicted for corruption and whose home owners didn't even bother to carry flood insurance I feel like I have a dog in this fight. I like to get value for my money.

                #8.6 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:52 AM EST

                Kishb

                It’s not a sea, it's a gulf. If you are going to make an absurd joke at least have the intelligence to make the correct references.

                My goodness, such vituperation over such a small thing. If you want precision in definitions, start by looking up the definition of "gulf." Depending on your source, the Gulf of Mexico is either part of the Atlantic Ocean, or it combines with the Caribbean Sea to form the American Mediterranean Sea. So, while pained1 may or may not be right, you are most certainly wrong.

                • 2 votes
                #8.8 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:22 PM EST

                Well, Nana,

                I don't want any of my money going to that corrupt ungrateful cesspool called Mexico either... but I guess we're both screwed, huh?

                • 2 votes
                #8.9 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:59 PM EST

                screamin,,,, I agree, let the seas take both of those areas back. I once installed safety equipment in a salt mine in New Iberia, LA just weeks before the salt dome cracked and the gulf flooded the mine. I also drove the streets of Boston. I would not miss either place.

                  #8.10 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:20 PM EST
                  bow2meDeleted
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                    Reply#11 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:56 AM EST

                    Do yourself a favor: Stay away from large gatherings, especially where alcohol is involved. It seems to bring out the worst in people.

                    • 9 votes
                    Reply#12 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:48 AM EST

                    Most especially in urban settings.

                    • 5 votes
                    #12.1 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:41 AM EST

                    And stay away from the cesspools in our country infested with gang activity.

                    Note that they like to shoot each other. A lot. Just stay away and let them have it out.

                    • 5 votes
                    #12.2 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:39 AM EST
                    Reply

                    It's not the booze or the guns. It's the thug mentality. When the original argument broke up, the 2 black males should have just kept walking. But no, they decided that they had been,"'dissed" and went back to get their "Props". Of course they just had to cap that dude and fire of their gun into the crowd because that's how they keep up their "Street cred" . Just another day in the city. Punk runs his mouth and when some one calls him on it, they are insulted, so they just have to show out and get their payback. Wouldn't make one bit of difference if there were a ban on any gun or limit on ammo capacity. These young men would not obey the law. If for no other reason because it cause them to lose face amongst their street thug buddies. We need to get parents to teach their kids that being a punk or violent response to minor issues is not acceptable .

                    • 22 votes
                    Reply#13 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:12 AM EST

                    It would be nice if we could 'get' parents to teach their children.

                    The problem is that many parents people who reproduce don't have the skill set: they can't possibly teach something they don't have.

                    The tools in their tool boxes are extremely limited.

                    The learning comes later from police, other thugs, and institutions, unfortunately.

                    • 15 votes
                    #13.1 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:20 AM EST

                    old dog, amen!

                    • 8 votes
                    #13.2 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:10 AM EST

                    Hope,

                    They don't need parents to teach them anything, they have LaPierre. Guns are the new personal assistant. They slice, they dice, they take care of every problem and make up for every personal shortcoming you have. You can get one today yourself legally or steal one from a responsible gun owner who fails to secure their weapon properly (hint: "responsible gun owner" is an oxymoron)

                    • 3 votes
                    #13.3 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:34 AM EST

                    Kama,

                    It is obvious that you have never heard a thing that LaPierre has ever said.

                    • 4 votes
                    #13.4 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:35 AM EST

                    No "spike", I have heard everything he has said and watched what he has done over decades with opened eyes and open mind. Try it.

                    • 2 votes
                    #13.5 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:39 AM EST

                    Karma, there you go opening your lying liberal mouth to make an argument you can't support. Just shut up.

                      #13.6 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:55 AM EST

                      I am not totally against banning so-called "assault rifles" and large capacity magazines, but even if those were outlawed it would not have stopped the incident in NOLA. In this case, a handgun was used in the shootings by stupid thugs who use extreme violence as an answer to any perceived insult.

                      The time has come to put people who resort to shooting or even shooting at another person for any reason other than real self defense away for a very, very long time. That would (1) take that particular thug off the street and (2) send a strong message that we are serious about this issue.

                      • 1 vote
                      #13.7 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:58 PM EST
                      bow2meDeleted
                      bow2meDeleted
                      Reply

                      Just a couple of partying brothers.

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#14 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:21 AM EST

                      Thugs and gangs are everywhere in the larger cities and by far the most shootings are done by criminals shootings other criminals along with the innocent using illegal handguns...These cities need to crack down and use the "stop and frisk" tactics on anyone suspected of illegal carrying of weapons like New York has done with success. There also should be crack downs on straw gun buyers who sell those guns to thugs ...Many of these laws are already on the books ..it's time to focus on enforcing these laws and to throw out the worthless guns bans that have already been proven not to work.

                      • 8 votes
                      Reply#15 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:50 AM EST

                      that has been tried. it's " racist" so it can't be done. The Libs don't want us to protect ourselves from this element but I notice they hardly ever live in the hood.

                      • 2 votes
                      #15.1 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:57 AM EST
                      Reply

                      It’s not a sea, it's a gulf.
                      If you are going to make an absurd joke at least have the intelligence
                      to have correct references.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#16 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:55 AM EST

                      Well, I see those millions of new "law abiding" guns are already paying dividends.

                        Reply#17 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:01 AM EST

                        Another place to put on my "do not visit again" list. I am running out of places to go!

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#18 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:09 AM EST

                        No man, you need to strap on a Glock and get on down there. You might be lucky enough to kill a bad (real or perceived) guy.

                          #18.1 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:11 AM EST
                          Reply

                          Boy how the media reports. If those had been whites firing on unarmed blacks all hell would be breaking out in the area. But since the brothers are cowards and came back its just an another shooting. Will Jessie and Al be coming down to N.O. to get justice for the whites. LETS SEE !! And will we see this news again in 2 days? Guess you have to wear hoods to get justice. Sick of the press and cowards who don't fight they just shoot. Come on MSNBC report on this one for weeks.

                          • 13 votes
                          Reply#19 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:10 AM EST

                          You mean what are those black people doing arguing with white people?

                          • 1 vote
                          #19.1 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:56 AM EST

                          Because whites don't shoot people huh keith?

                          • 1 vote
                          #19.2 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:00 AM EST

                          They were probably all drunk. Rules: Don't argue with black people and stay out of crowds. The liberals say just "run away" but how can you run away in the middle of wall to wall people?

                          • 1 vote
                          #19.3 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:03 PM EST
                          Reply

                          Same old tired crap on here. Man some of you really need to get a life. Good bye and I won't let the door hit me in the ass on the way out.

                            Reply#20 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:15 AM EST

                            Thank you NRA leadership, gun manufacturers/gun profiteers for another step in denying Americans the "right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness".

                            • 1 vote
                            Reply#21 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:25 AM EST

                            What's on the other side of your broken record?

                            • 8 votes
                            #21.1 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:36 AM EST

                            It's moving up fast on the charts, Johninpa, so gets a lot of play.

                              #21.2 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:41 AM EST

                              It gets a lot of air time from you,agreed.

                              • 4 votes
                              #21.3 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:45 AM EST
                              Reply

                              That town is a shthole and always has been. I wouldnt go there again for nuthin.

                              • 7 votes
                              Reply#22 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:37 AM EST

                              We band together and elect political representatives who do not represent us at all. We pay enumerable policemen to take from our shoulders the burden of self-protection; and the policemen do not do this thing.

                              And the proof of the need to protect oneself is lying in a hospital while the assailant runs away to hide himself and his gun. Back of all the law is the undelegated personal right of self deefense, this undelegated personal right is in each of us, or ought to be. If there is in you no courage to set you arbiter for yourself is some sharp, crucial moment, then you are fit neither as man or citizen.

                              • 3 votes
                              Reply#23 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:39 AM EST

                              Violence of this type occurs in cities with long histories of political corruption. Since when has New Orleans not been known for high crime rates, and corruption, the early 1700's? If even then. Instead of spending money to "cure" the problem, don't spend money to cure the problem, because it's the corruption money which gives the excuse for gun violence. Analyze this comment, " The gangs were protecting their turf. " Their "turf" isn't their property unless they have a deed for it. If they do have a deed for it, then there is a public gathering on private property, which the private property owner can allow or disallow guns on. If they don't have a deed, it's not their turf, simple.

                              " My car " isn't my car unless I paid for it. "My house" isn't my house, unless I paid for it. " My job " isn't my job unless I'm invested in it. If there are "owners" to be taken to task, it's the gang leaders of the "turf", and the political machine which allows that gang to operate illegal activities on that "turf". The unions do not own the port facilities on which they operate. The teachers do not own the schools in which they operate. The driver does not own the highway on which he operates his car, and if he didn't buy his car, he's an operator not an owner.

                              As such, the public through tax dollars, is the owners of large tracts of public lands, which operators operate on. Just quit supplying money for those properties, and allow the operators to operate with diminishing returns, sort of like a farmer stoping the application of fertilizer on cropland. At some level the lack of fertilizer ( BS ) will stunt the growth of the crop, and stunt the growth of the weeds as well. Some level of equilibrium will be reached, and then at that new level of equilibrium adopt new policies of management, for growth. The weeds that need to be curtailed is political corruption, which is absorbing most of the public tax dollar aid money, and gun violence is just an indication of competition between the other "sprouts".

                              • 1 vote
                              Reply#24 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:41 AM EST

                              Steve, if you own your house and don't pay taxes, guess who doesn't own the house anymore. Gee, surprise, Ah so takenaka is on spouting his usual "strict gun control." Enforce the laws on the books, Idiot. We don't need anymore.

                              • 4 votes
                              Reply#25 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:49 AM EST

                              (I sobered up, and got married, say what you will about beer, but I should have stayed drunk). Please show your individual support for banning guns, put up large signs in front and back of your house/apartment/business, BIG letters: THIS IS A GUN FREE ZONE........

                              • 3 votes
                              Reply#26 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:50 AM EST

                              Na. Put signs up in your yard, I've got guns come and get me.

                                #26.1 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:59 AM EST

                                I'm with you Grandpa. Not one of the teen-aged gang thugs will turn in his weapon. Not those for whom murder is always the answer to any insult.

                                  #26.2 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:34 PM EST
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                                  No surprise here. Common place in most big cities.

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                                  Reply#27 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:56 AM EST

                                  Only 4? New Orleans, you can do better!

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                                  Reply#28 - Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:11 AM EST
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