Greg... pretty oblique reference... but it definitely wasn't a witch trial....

Paterno knew the rumors... kept the secret

Paterno got the warning.... kept the secret

Paterno got an eyewitness.... and did he call the police? no, he waited a couple of days to strategize with University management to do what?..... keep the secret

Paterno kept the secret for at least a DECADE

if Paterno didn't die, he would be looking at conspiracy and a bunch of other charges... rightfully so....

that scumbag kept quiet about child rape for personal gain.... and I'm glad he's burning in hell.... fxxk him

and you excuse makers and deniers are pretty freaking low on the scum scale also....

oldhamletman-

It's pretty obvious you didn't read the Freeh Report.

This family needs to quit trying to save a reputation that deserved to go down in flames. I'm with Oldhamletman on this. Every time I see the name Paterno I immediately think of dozens of victims and their parents with no one to turn to because Penn State and the Attorney General were dragging their feet and covering things up for the good of Penn State's reputation. Shame on Paterno, the University and the state of Pennsylvania. I actually think the entire College Football Culture is to blame. Something was said that kept Sandusky from ever being hired as a Coach even though he was very successful. So yes, I think all of college football knew the rumors but no one acted. Shame on all of them.

I think Paterno is a stark warning for all of us to SPEAK UP against WRONGS. His family needs to come to terms with the fact that, at the least that was his crime which has tainted his reputation forever. All of his fame fortune and even good deeds were not sufficient to plug the hole in his character that was left by his cowardice and failure to do the right thing.

Paternos and their gang have shown they are totally devoid of morals, integrity, or common decency. Their lack of compassion for the victims of Sandusky, Paterno, and those at Penn whose only concern was their bloody football team, is monstrous

Pat Paterno is seeing her lavish future circling the drain. She will fight like a harpy to keep it.

Tom Corbett, the PA Governor, used Freeh to scapegoat Paterno, et al. so that he (Corbett) would not be blamed. He controlled the Penn State Board of Trustees that arranged for the Report and accepted its incredibly biased conclusions (read the Report and you will see that the evidence cited does not support the conclusions). The only real evidence against Paterno was the testimony of McQueary. McQueary was a very unreliable witness (he changed his story many times) and his testimony was directly contradicted by the testimony of Dr. Jonathan Dranov. Dr. Dranov is a very reliable witness, graduated Phi Beta Kappa, attended a prestigious Ivy League medical school, is a Board Certified Internist and Nephrologist, has more than 30 years of experience in questioning patients to get accurate histories and is familiar with the mandatory reporting requirement for child abuse. He interviewed McQueary on the night that McQueary says he saw Sandusky and the child showering together. Dr. Dranov testified that he asked McQueary three times if he had seen anthing of a sexual nature and three times McQueary said no. It can safely be assumed that Dr. Dranov did not report this himself because from his extensive knowledge and experience he didn't think it crossed the threshold for reporting. So this is what Paterno, a layman, and the others heard. They also had access to a report by the police in 1998 when Sandusky gave a child "a bear hug" and was investigated by a police detective, the PA Department of Public Welfare in Harrisburg, the Centre County DA's Office, and a CCYS counselor who interviewed the child and wrote a report. The conclusion of the police report was "no sexual assault occurred" and no charges were filed. Since this is all that Paterno and the others knew, what are they guilty of?

As delusional a family as you're liable to find. They have millions of dollars and will spend heavily to resurrect the reputation of Paterno and thus the family fortunes. Venal, corrupt and immoral, these people need to go away. They hurt there own cause when they keep bringing this back into the public eye because even the most objective observer can see that Joe Paterno was up to his neck in this filth. Shut up, Paterno family and just go away.

D-E-N-I-A-L........

Here's the report ..

"Young Boys we're raped by a VIP of your administration in your facilities while you stood guard."

End of Report..

I do not see this as the Paterno family being in denial. I read the entire Freeh report and can tell you that many of the statements made in the executive summary and the conclusions reached in each section of the report simply are not supported by facts. They are based on suppositions and innuendo, but there are no facts presented anywhere that point to Paterno knowing about Sandusky's actions prior to the conversation with McQueary or that Paterno did anything to try and cover it up. Paterno did what he was supposed to do and reported his conversation with McQueary to his bosses for them to take action. Part of the problem is that McQueary kept changing his story about what he actually saw. Someone who talked to him the same day he supposedly saw the abuse says that McQueary said that he did not actually see anything of a sexual nature going on. McQueary was asked directly about this and answered no. It was only later, long after he met with university officials, that McQueary started to re-characterize what he saw as being a sexual assault. McQueary changing his tune is very suspect and his testimony about what he told who and when during the investigation into Sandusky that resulted in the trial was no doubt colored by his being upset at not having his coaching contract renewed by the university. He obviously had an axe to grind and his credibility because of that, as well as the different stories he has told at different times, makes anything that comes out of his mouth suspect. In all, I found that the conclusions reached in the Freeh report were largely unsupportable by any facts or evidence. This was particularly true in his conclusions regarding what Paterno knew and did not know as well as regarding Paterno's actions following the report by McQueary. There is no evidence that Paterno tried to cover this up or influence the actions being taken by the university against Sandusky. In fact, Paterno wanted to bar Sandusky from any future use of Penn State facilities following McQueary's report but was told he could not do that because of the emeritus status that Sandusky had been granted.

I am glad that someone if finally pushing back against the heavily biased Freeh report. Maybe this new report can be used to get the NCAA to reexamine the sanctions leveled against Penn State since they were largely based on taking the Freeh report's conclusions as facts.

Joe Paterno is not the saint his wife and family are trying to make him out to be. He knew what Jerry Sandusky was doing because of what McQueary had seen. Reporting it to the administration was not enough. When he saw that they were covering it up he should have spoken. The same goes for McQueary. As a result of their inaction or participation in the coverup Sandusky continued his abuses of several boys that could have been spared the pain they will go through in life.

HSU1

You need to become better informed before you make defamatory comments. According to Dr. Dranov's testimony, on the night of the incident McQueary told him he had seen a child who did not appear to be upset and then had seen Sandusky but he did not see anything of a sexual nature. At the time McQueary spoke to Paterno, et al. no victims had come forward. There was nothing to "cover up". Paterno was scapegoated by Tom Corbett, who controls the PSU Board of Trustees because he did not want to be blamed. It would hurt his political career. He was the DA for the region of PA that had jurisdiction and delayed investigating Sandusky. He also made contributions to the 2nd Mile.

Paterno was a greedy, self-centered cretin who fetishized money, fame, and football over morality.

I wonder who he would have voted for in 2012?

Heck of a job Paterno family.

I wonder what the going price is for a report that vindicates one from protecting a child rapist...people as prominent as the ones they bought don't come cheaply, I bet. The money might have been better spent trying to atone for Paterno's complicity.

That may be on the surface, but it's pretty clear the Freeh Report had an agenda if you actually READ it. Very little factual evidence. Much speculation and hearsay. Obvious bias. I don't know WHY Freeh had this agenda .... but it's pretty clear in the report that he had one.

Fleetwood, the Paterno family's credibility is irrelevant. This report wasn't written by the Paternos. It was written by a team of experts across the board, including the former top legal officer of the United States, a former FBI profiler and child molestation and behavioral expert, and a top psychologist at Johns Hopkins U. They have just as much credibility as Louis Freeh (more, if you consider Freeh's history of cover-ups and insubordination) and their account deserves to be regarded just as highly as his was.

"I wonder what the going price is for a report that vindicates one from protecting a child rapist.."

And how the money will be laundered so as to leave no trail. What is irrelevant is the c.v.'s of their team of 'experts'. It is naive to believe they stand to gain nothing. If they were so concerned that the best interests of society be served, why didn't they come forward sooner?

I have had personal experience with the purchase of 'experts'. Everyone has a price.

md22mdrx you don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about. Why would Freeh have an "agenda"? It was an absolute objective report from an outsider if there ever was one. Take a hike and state FACTS to support your claim, otherwise your just a mouthpiece seeking absurdities just for the sake of having a gaped toothed mouth.

Louis Freeh does not have "lily white" credibility. He had to resign as FBI Director after a Business Week article on "Carnivore". He left with a history of: the Waco seige cover-up, insubordination to Attorney General Janet Reno, the Robert Hansen mole case, ordering use of FBI sharpshooters at Ruby Ridge which led to the death of Randy Weaver's wife while she was holding their child in her arms, etc..

The Freeh Report is: (1) an "ex parte" document (not an independent report) that was funded with millions of dollars by parties who have a conflict of interest in the case (Tom Corbett controlled the PSU Board of Trustees and was the PA DA who had jurisdiction over the original complaints against Sandusky but failed to investigate them in a timely fashion); (2) written in a prosecutorial fashion with no apparent concern for innocence; (3) criticises the actions of people using a hindsight perspective that employs information that none of them knew; (4) does not contain a response by the accused parties (Curley, Spanier, Schultz, Paterno); (5) is written by someone who has a checkered history and may have a biased view of the case.

The family didn't "discover" anything. Since the Freeh Report was so obviously fraudulent, they organized an investigative team that is composed of highly reputable people (much more reputable than Freeh) and that has issued a very objective report. Whether you like it or not, this new, objective report finds the Freeh Report to be inaccurate and biased - to put it mildly. Why should they say "Hey, our dad was wrong" when their dad was falsely and maliciously defamed?

gm Tramp

The Paternos are looking to go down in history as yet another family who squandered the rest of their lives and their fortunes trying to rehabilitate an irrevocably damaged name.

BTW, are you saying this clown has a complete Frenchman? ;)

ScooterTramp

Your comments are distinctly "unclever" since it is apparent you have no idea what the factual details of the case are. There was only one witness who spoke to Paterno (Spanier, Curley, Schultz), McQueary. McQueary's testimony couldn't convict anyone since it is so variable it borders on perjury and is directly contradicted by a highly reliable witness, Dr. Dranov. None of the victims had come forth at the time that McQueary spoke to Paterno, et al.. The unmitigated gall (note that "Gaul" was a division of the Roman Empire) and clownery is all on your part.

Pandora6

ScooterTramp, Your comments are distinctly "unclever" since it is apparent you have no idea what the factual details of the case are.

Pandora, your comments are distinctly "unclever", since it is apparent you have no idea what the factual details of the trial are.

There was only one witness who spoke to Paterno (Spanier, Curley, Schultz), McQueary.

That would be true, if you assume that all of the eight victims who testified were so traumatized that they didn't speak to Paterno while he was raping them.

McQueary's testimony couldn't convict anyone since it is so variable it borders on perjury and is directly contradicted by a highly reliable witness, Dr. Dranov.

And yet he was convicted on 45 of the 48 charges that remained after 4 of the original charges were dropped. Go figure.

I hope that remark is addressed to the family. They are the ones who keep bringing it up.

It's not until the TRUTH comes out.

The Freeh Report played fast and loose with the facts and was based more on speculation and bias. It was pretty clear it had an agenda.

The truth is apparent to all except the desperate fan-boys who still cannot accept that Joe Paterno is the patron saint of all child-molesters.

That is the only truth that history is going to record. All the shrill denials and claims of investigator agendas come from only 3 sources, the Paterno family, Penn. Governor Thornburg and md22mdrx.

None of the above have the credibility to change the record.

Just pointing out facts here: when the assistant mentioned the shower incident to Joe, Sandusky was no longer a coach...

But he was allowed continued access to the facilities as if he WAS a coach.

There were very few "facts" in the Freeh Report ... mainly wild speculation and bias. Go read it.

As much as I disagree with the people who have done so ....

You are right. People HAVE made up their minds based on wild speculations and a biased report. I don't think this is going to change anything, but there was a REAL injustice done to JoePa and the entire Paterno family. It needs to be corrected.

Just because you don't like what the report says doesn't invalidate it. Only those painted in an unflattering light have dismissed the report as strenuously as you have.

You use wild speculation and bias in an attempt to refute what you claim is wild speculation and bias in the report; this makes your arguments not only suspect, but laughable.

This is like the denial of the crimes against children by the Catholic Church. Does that stop people from being Catholic? It's like the recently disclosed "slavery of women and children" in the laundry in Ireland who cleaned the priests clothes. Does that stop people from being Catholic. It's like the disputes of the US nuns. Does that stop people from being Catholic? It's like the questionable financial issues of the Catholic Church? Does that stop people from being Catholic? Individually, a scandal won't diminish the number of believers, but when you start adding up numerous scandals and cover ups, then you will start to diminish the number of believers, and hence what you see now are fewer believers in the Penn State Football program. There are other football programs, there are other football coaches. Paterno had his day, lost it, and his days of glory will never be rekindled. The Catholic Church had its hey day in Middle Ages European monarchs and their armies. What needs to be faced by the "believers" is the Age of Decay. You can't cover up sex crimes against minors with football uniforms nor clerics robes now.

Not as bad of a job as Freeh in his report ...

Or the media in reporting the facts over wild speculation ...

The media needs to report a correction and retraction of their stories on Paterno.

Unfortunate the title of his second book was "Just The Tip". Death penalty to pedophiles.

stonepipe2 - instead of acting like a jackA, read the report.

You hurt my feelings.

This "report", bought and paid for by the Paternos, has no credibility.

Worse yet, it does even more damage to their legacy - look at who their expert is: Dr. Fred Berlin. Do you know who Fred Berlin is?

This "doctor" was the expert who testified for the defense of homosexual child molester Rabbi Jerrold Levy, as well as for the defense in the trial of Jeffrey Dahmer! This is the guy who started a sex therapy clinic with Dr. John Money, and claimed that "If I were to see the case of a boy aged ten or eleven who's intensely erotically attracted toward a man in his twenties or thirties, if the relationship is totally mutual, and the bonding is genuinely totally mutual, then I would not call it pathological in any way."

Most importantly, at that clinic, they told their clients that the Money-Berlin clinic guaranteed sex criminal applicants that nothing they did while they were clinic patients would be reported to the authorities.

Berlin is also a consultant and defender of the Catholic Church in its pedophile scandals. He is on record as saying the following:

Human beings differ in sexual makeup. Most adults are not sexually attracted to prepubescent children, but some are. Societal values can be of relevance in determining whether such a difference is considered to be a psychiatric condition. Were a society to believe that adult-child sexual interactions should not be prohibited, such a difference might not be considered a disorder.

In other words, the Paterno's expert is a defender of pedophiles! And so is the law firm King & Spaulding.

The only "experts" they can get are defenders of pedophiles, how disgusting.

jOHN7475, Thanks for your comments on this tragedy. It seems the majority of the people replying on here are just Paterno haters. They are bashing him as if he did the deed. He did what he was supposed to do. He reported it. As for people talking about his millions, maybe they better look and see how many millions he gave back to the University. The Universty wanted a scapegoat and they choose one. As far as I am concerned they picked the wrong one.

He did what was required! in a college you report to your bosses, and at the time sandusky wasn't even a member of the staff.

To even suggest that anyone at Penn State had MORE influence than Joe Paterno did is nonsense. He was the top banana and what he said was "the word"..................... He knew what happened a decade before and didn't stop it. He is as guilty as most of the country thinks he is. Enough baloney from the family. They know what he did and they are still trying to cover it up.......... No amount of pressure from that family is going to change the mind of the world.......................Paterno was as guilty as sin............

The only reason the world thinks anything is because the conservative and liberal media tell them what to believe. and you should no better to think that his word was law. every coach, every teacher professor , and even the students answer to the dean and the dean answers to the board of directors.Sandusky ran a program at the Penn State Offices, and wasn't even a member of the staff. when the media first reported the allegations Jo Pa was the first attacked before anyone had any knowledge, so of course you don't want your mind changed its easy to attack a man who didn't even testify and was never truly found guilty, who cannot defend himself. Its good to see the american idea of Innocent until proven 100 percent no shadow of a doubt guilty is still intact. I'm glad you have probably never served on a Jury Libralee!

I didn't read your comment. What did it say?

Shilling for the Paternos is pretty disgusting. At least they can't own up to Joe's utter failure because he's family. There's no excuse for anyone else.

Amen! what is really sad are these people have judged anyone, without any hard proof, only what they heard on the news. Joe Paterno did take some responsibility when the riots were going on on campus. he said he should have done more, and he didn't, then he urged the students back into the classrooms for their midterms. responsibility is hard when you have polocy and rules to follow. when i was in the navy we knew of things going on in the command that shouldn't have been. we were always told to go through the chain of command. when we did it either got taken care of or not. i would have never went to the CO right off the bat because if an investigation was launched and the accused was innocent it was my but on the line. same with Joe. if he would have went to the Police, instead of the College, he would have been fired for going over the boards head. Sandusky wasn't even a member of the faculty!