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Police are on the lookout for a pair of pit bulls that mauled a teen and three women in separate attacks within half an hour on Long Island.
The attacks were all within a five-block area in Lakeview, in New York's Nassau County.
Nassau County police say the dogs, one black and one brown, first bit a 16-year-old boy on his left arm at about 6:30 p.m. Tuesday near Parkside Road and Cedar Road.
Ten minutes later, a 54-year-old woman was also bitten on the left arm as she walked on Pinebrook Avenue near Parkside Road.
Ten minutes after that, the dogs attacked a 24-year-old woman on Pinebrook Avenue near Tyler Road. She was injured on her left leg and right arm.
And about 10 minutes later, 29-year-old Kashina Sylvester was attacked by the dogs and suffered injuries to her face, shoulder and both arms on Clinton Ave.
Sylvester had just gotten out of her car when the dogs went after her.
"They were biting at my jacket at first," she said. "Then one chomped down on my thigh and I went down and ended up being bitten in the head and thighs and up and down the arms."
Sylvester screamed as she tried to get back in her car.
"I kicked them, I punched one of them across the head," she said. Sylvester stuck her hand into the mouth of the other dog, which had clamped onto her head, to force it to let go of her.
After Sylvester cried and honked her horn, neighbor Justin Williams found her and called 911 for help.
"I feel like someone's run me across a cheese grater," Sylvester said Wednesday.
Hempstead's Animal Care and Control officers are conducting a grid search looking for the dogs, knocking on doors and driving around.
"We're hoping that they're home at this point," said Cindy Iacopella of Hempstead Animal Control. "It's likely that the owners of these dogs don't even know that this occurred."
Bearing a sling on her arm, bite marks on her head and leg, Sylvester had a message for the dog owners: "If you can't control your dog, you don't deserve to have them."
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Tell us all again, what loveable, gentle, sweet-tempered dogs pit bulls are.
I say we initiate a black and brown pit bull ban.......don't these people have a vote?
They are -- until they turn on you and become lethal.
Ha ha "They are -- until they turn on you and become lethal." Sounds like anything else in the world... and please Terelyn, tell us again how you know all of this incredible information about a dog breed you aren't around? And no... being an American citizen and does not make you intelligent about the American Pitbull.
Same could be said for Women granny.
The search for the dogs will end right back at the trailer park they came from. One will be lounging on a car hood. One will be chewing on the torn apart motorcycle on the front porch. And one will be flipping a toddler's arm up in the air like a doggy helicopter toy. The owners will return home in an 82 Caprice Classic, wearing fresh "ink", and toting a 30 pack of Keystone Light. They will be surprised that their dogs would do what they are accused of due to the fact that they are "as gentle as kittens", and "great with children."
While any single one of my 3 Chihuahuas could attack a person, one person could easily fight off the combined 13.5 pounds of them. Not to mention that the highest they could attack is the shins of an adult, the knees of a child. Even a small child could extricate themselves from the formidable attack of the marauding pack of 4.5 pound Chihuahua's. Although, more than likely, they will cower behind something, bark their fool heads off and piddle all over the place.
And they taste pretty good to, while easily fitting in a taco shell as well.
Not trying to redirect this topic but the argument for "gun control" has always been "why does a person need a gun?". I carry daily (in Florida) not only from protection against a rare criminal attack but also for cases like this.
Imagine if an elderly man or woman or a young child were being savagely attacked by 2, 3, or 4 dogs such as this having a gun would allow you to save the life of an elderly person or young child.
You read these types of stories unfortunately too often (these types of mauling happen probably more frequent than any school shootings) so carrying a gun is not ONLY for protection against PEOPLE that want to do us harm but also from events such as dog attacks or even bear or cougar attacks.
I know they are rare (actually very rare) but wouldn't you like to have that gun with you should 2, 3, or 4 dogs start to attack you rather than all you can do is put an arm up to try and protect your face while they rip away your flesh?
Another reason to carry. I'd be having Bull Chops within the hour if they attacked me or anyone around me. Or, I'd probably get about $10.00lb around the corner at Sun Loc Garden.
GM Scooter...
Pro,
I just now read your post. My post reflects yours even though I posted mine without reading yours.
Good post...
About a year ago a woman was walking her pit bull (on a leash) when my next door neighbor's pit bull -Texas- (ran free-not tied up or fenced) attacked her pit bull. I heard all this screaming (Sunday morning) and threw on a coat, ran outside and saw this poor woman with 2 angry pit bulls. I took leftover steak from the fridge and managed to entice Texas away with the steak. All I remember is long strings of drool, snapping jaws and I was so scared my mouth was like cotton. Thankfully no one was hurt (dogs or people) and the only thing lost was our Sunday night dinner............
Creek Dog.......you said"
Rather, another reason to fear the foolishness of the extreme pro-gun crowd.
Of course, you did not consider that gunfire in a concrete and steel environment could easily wound or kill an innocent (child) by-stander by way of a miss and/or (pass-through) richochet. Dogs can be subdued with non-lethal mace endangering nobody.
Guns are the answer to a very few of our problems. Yet, some consider them the answer to most. Your comment is an example.
Do you also believe folks should be able to legally own dangerous animals without interference from our legislatures?
Collapsing in 3....2....1......
Hi, Scooter, CD, db...
When I go to he park here in town I have a pellet gun. It's an air pistol. Wish I didn't have to carry it but a lot of people let their dogs run loose. I have mine on a leash while in the park but there are lots of houses that surround it and the home owners seem to think the park belongs to them and is their private dog run.
You never know what will happen and just because you follow the laws and rules it doesn't mean everyone else will... and the dogs can't read.
Creek Dog: LOL!! Wise minds think alike:)!!
Ian: Typical illogical and liberal reply. I tell you that I carry and in the event of an elderly woman or small child being attacked I can potentially save their life you criticize me and state that the "dangers" of me carrying are worse than even the POTENTIAL saving of an elderly person or a small child.
Your response is "Sorry, there is always the POSSIBILITY the bullet will deflect of concrete and steel and is not worth the risk. Sorry, you will just have to watch the dogs maul the elderly person or small child - that is much less dangerous to others around you".
THAT is the mindset of the liberal insane. You are SO against ANYBODY having the ability to own a gun you would sacrifice the life of an elderly person or small child to make sure me having a gun doesn't occur.
Of course AFTER sacrificing the life of an elderly person or a small child you have ONE MORE "brilliant" idea: more legislation and more laws. Yea, because THAT will solve the problem........
No.....ProBusiness.......
You present a false choice: subduing the animals with gunfire vs doing nothing at all.
As mentioned: You COULD carry and use MACE ....OR.... you could carry mace AND a firearm.
This is YOUR MINDSET: Distort every circumstance so as to promote your own emotionally charged Yosemite Sam agenda.
Get some MACE. Use guns ONLY when there is NO other choice AND when you can be CERTAIN that use will not EXACERBATE the situation. It is quite easy to imagine YOU, in an attempt to shoot a wildly gyrating pit bull and its victim, killing the person and only frightening the dog.
BTW---Are you aware that, in Alaska, most people carry mace (specially designed) when in the wilderness and consider it the weapon of choice when confronted with aggressive wildlife (i.e. bears)? It has a range of about 35 feet which is likely further than YOU could reliably and safely kill a moving pit bull with a handgun. See: http://www.guardian-self-defense.com/mace-bear-spray-20-capsaicinoids#.UR09yh3WiEA
Finally, ask yourself this: Do you think a Long Island police officer that might have come upon this scene would have used a handgun or mace (they carry both) to subdue the animals? They will NOT risk human life, particularly when it is completely UNNECESSARY to do so. But then, THEY are thoroughly trained PROFESSIONALS, and YOU ARE A MERE ADVOCATE OF ANARCHY.
Ian: So you have the luxury of telling me that I cannot carry my gun and whether I am attacked by a criminal or dog your suggestion is "mace".
So assume I am attacked by two criminals I am to tell him to please turn to your right JUST a little and look down some (and STAY STILL!!) because I need to spray you in your eyes to stop this attack. PLEASE do not move so much!! Of course I have already told the OTHER assailant to just stand to the side for a moment.
Psssssstttttt!!!! (that was sound effect of my mace container!!). One assailant yells out "MY EYES!! MY EYES!!". I scream out "Take THAT you wascally varmint!!". Now I turn to the other and scream out "there is more where THAT came from!! Now turn to your left a little and PLEASE stand still!!". Pssssssttttt (that was more sound effect). Ooooopppsss!! I missed!!
Pfffftttt...... (that was the sound effect of an empty mace can). Errrrr, hold on mister - I think I have an oven mitt in the car and will grab that real quick. Maybe that will protect my wife and daughter from the second assailant.
You are just a blabbering fool. You seem to always have the answers. I don't carry mace I carry a gun. And if a criminal is attacking me or someone else it will not be mace (or an oven mitt) that will protect us - it will be a gun. And if 2 dogs are attacking an elderly person or a child it will not be mace (or an oven mitt) saving their life - it will be a gun.
You are a liberal fool. If you don't want to carry a gun then there is an easy answer - don't. But I don't carry mace OR an oven mitt. I carry a gun. And in the many years I have carried I have NEVER had to pull it to use it. But I would rather have it and not need it or need it and not have it.
And if I see an elderly person or a child getting mauled and they scream for help and I run over there I will make sure I ask them first if it is okay if I use my gun to save their lives. To make you happy I will let them decide. I'll ask the dogs to stop for a moment so I can ask the question. The dogs will sit off to the side for just a moment while I ask the elderly person or the child if they are okay with me using my gun to save their lives.
You never know, they might be as intelligent as you and ask me "do you have any mace or an oven mitt?". Of course I will be honest and tell them that I don't. And if they say "you know, I am just not comfortable with you using a gun in this scenario. You might miss. the bullet might deflect off the concrete and metal. No, I would rather you not use your gun". Hmmmm, I understand and as you wish as a turn to the dogs and say "sorry for disrupting your mauling and they asked me to not use my gun. Sorry to interrupt your mauling and you can resume".
Ian, what an illogical, unintelligent, and incompetent reply you had. Unbelievable an adult would respond with such an idiotic reply.
It should be against the law to own a pitbull dog and they should be exterminated.
ProBusiness........you said:
If you are attacked by a (particularly armed) criminal, you should likely be forced to use your firearm. If you are attacked by a dog (or witness such an attack) you should use MACE and only use a firearm if you don't have MACE. That is PARTICULARLY true in an urban environment and/or when other human beings could be accidentally hit by your errant projectiles.
....and:
No, in THAT scenario, you will probably be required to use your firearm.
.....and:
If you want to provide for the protection of yourself and/or others, you should definitely carry MACE. It's legal. It's cheap. It's effective. You may be entitled to carry a firearm so long as you do so within local laws. A firearm is a tool. MACE is a tool. Firearms, though, are FAR more dangerous and prone to serious accident. Thus, you should select your tool to fit the circumstances. That's just common sense.
....and:
That SHOULD tell you something. Your desire to carry a firearm probably has more to do with your own fearful psychology than with reality.
.....and:
No, just use the MACE without any hesitation.
....and:
It is both revealing and disturbing that you would consider a suggestion to use MACE rather than a (potentially very dangerous) firearm, particularly when use of the latter is totally UNNECESSARY, to warrant your derogatory terms.
It seems your primary concern is that you do NOT WANT TO BE INCONVENIENCED by (also) carrying a non-lethal weapon. That is your choice. But, should you be faced with such a situation as discussed here, you (and others) might very well wish you had made a different choice. Our police carry several sorts of weapons FOR GOOD AND MANY REASONS. Perhaps, you should consider those reasons. Remember, by your own admission, you have "NEVER" used the (heavy) firearm you carry. Yet, you dither over carrying MACE.
Finally, it is good you are not a mail carrier. Many dogs (and, possibly humans) might lie dead along your route.
Jerry-1927474.....you said
Several home owners' insurance carriers have announced exclusions of coverage for injuries caused by several breeds considered to be "vicious". Among these are pit bulls.
So, owners of these breeds are increasingly at risk of personal bankruptcy. This may have the desired effect (fewer of such breeds). But, many owners of vicious breeds either have negligible net worth or would disavow ownership in case of attack. So, it may become necessary for some jurisdictions to pass such laws.
It is unfortunate that some folks perceive the need to enhance their sense of personal power (aka "macho") by owning such animals or by carrying lethal weapons when they have NEVER experienced actual need (for them).
http://www.dci-insurance.com/firearms_ccw_insurance.htm
Exactly, KING PUTT, and stop breeding them. Countless Pitt bulls are given to shelters and rarely find a home. It would be better to die at birth than be given away by their family as an adult and sit in a cage for ten days until they kill it because they weren't wanted. It isn't just how they are raised either. Pitt bulls cause more than half of dog bite fatalities every year and are only 5% of the dog population, they could turn on you at any time even if they seem sweet. Too many times after reading about a mauling the owner laments "But she never even bit someone before!"
I have never seen fear hit a person so fast as when you yell pit bull. Their first reaction is to jerk their head back and forth in all directions to see where's the dog located. I was involved in an American Bull Dog attack. They look like oversize pit bulls. The difference is that a pit bull is smaller than an American Bull Dog. The dog I dealt with tried to enter our house by ripping (yes, I said ripping) the vinyl siding off the side near the front door. He was literally trying to rip out the siding, then the boards to get to us.
I was in the den watching TV when my wife screamed and told me to come and see this. I went to the front door and opened it. We had a security door also. When I open the door this bastard tried to rip out the metal bars from the security door. I was in absolute shock at the size and aggressiveness of this dog. I must have watch this bastard for ten minutes ripping out the vinyl siding and breaking some of the metal of the security door. We called the police during the attack, but the police never came to our aid. So I yelled for my wife to bring the shotgun. I called 911 one more time and told them I am going to blow this f@%ker away now. As I turned the shotgun towards the direction of the dog, it disappeared into the night. We never saw it ever again. When I lodged a formal complaint and sent picture of the attack on our house, the police apologized and sent some one out to see the damage in person. They told me they were stunned at the damage to the house. They had never seen anything like before. Why would an American Bull Dog try so desperately to get into the house and attack us. We have no clue. We don't even know who owned it. But judging from it's size, it was freaking huge and it went absolutely berserk. That security door saved our lives, because my wife had left the front door open to get some air, and left the security door locked. It was not until a few minutes later that I notice that my gas meter was located directly in the line of fire had I pulled the trigger. That would have resulted in blowing us to hell from hitting the gas pipe with shotgun slugs had I missed. So it was a good thing I did not fire when I could have.
What makes them so damn dangerous is the powerful locking jaw. They are built like miniature Sherman tank, and pack the same destructive force of a tank in most cases when they are in the attack mode. The only difference is that a tank will shred you with on round. but a pit bull keeps on shredding you, again and again until you stop moving. It attacks the head because that is how it kills other animals or breeds. And finally, the are just too unpredictable as pets. How many times do you hear, "He was so sweet, cuddly, playful, wouldn't hurt anyone." The next question the officer might ask, "Then why did it eat you child?" "Why did it kill the owner who never abused it." Why? why? why?
And the answer is simple, it is in the blood lines. It was bred for those specific characteristics. Strength, boldness, aggressiveness, defender, hunter, victor!
I'm okay with whatever punishment happens to these dogs when found, if their owners get the same punishment.
More than likely these dogs were trained to be mean. When you raise any animal in a loving, stress free environment, and you teach them how to behave, you get loving well behaved animals. When you force them to drag cinder blocks and set them upon other animals, and teach them to go after humans because you want them to be watch dogs, or protect your drug home, then they will go after anyone when they get lose. Mark my words - IF they find the people who own these dogs, they will be known to the police because of drug activity, or because the police will have been called for violence. IF they do find the owners, then they need to arrest them for cruelty because no domestic dogs - and that includes pit bulls - are born with a killer instinct. They have to be taught to attack.
Terrifying. these dogs are stronger than we are. They are dangerous unless in the hands of a trained professional. I do not believe they should be kept as pets!
Good idea. Give Vick something to do after he screws up the starting job under Kelly, just like he did under Reid.
Let the law suits begin. 4 differnt people within a half hour. The owners should be financially responsible for these attacks. For the record, I am usually against suing.
I'm waiting for The sucalove law Firm to sue the goldwater law firm, that ought to be good.
If you have ever had to listen to these two's idiotic commercials in the middle of your favorite program then ....
"You to may be entitled to compensation"
Lisa,
Unfortunately, you won't get much suing a welfare recipient.
Good point! What was I thinking ??? Don't answer lol
I am unclear if I should use mace on the lawyers, the dogs or the dog owner. Ida could you please share your wisdom?
I vote for the Owners!
lisa -
In our case, we never saw the dog again, nor had a clue to who the owner was. What makes it even more stressful now for us, is the other five pit bulls that live within two hundred yards of our house. And my neighbor's daughter wants to buy one for their house. She is in her late 20's and was aware of the dog attack. I explained to her that I would not look very kindly on her if she did . And I told her that she will be held accountable for that dog. I looked her in the eye while she was standing next to her mother (she lives with the mother) and said if it gets out, all bets are off.
Does everyone remember the one guy in DC or somewhere back east that was sleeping and his pit bull ripped out his throat for no apparent reason, while the other pit bull stood and watched? The police found it standing on top of the the guy's chest growling The owner spoiled it to death (no pun intended) and never abused it according to family and friends.
Pits (if that's what these actually are) are predisposed to be aggressive but that trait can usually be nullified through training. Any dog, regardless of breed, can be trained to be vicious and these probably were, either intentionally or through neglect.
My dog, a female Golden Retriever, is the sweetest, gentlest animal I have ever owned. She is the world's worst guard dog. However, she is a big, powerful dog and I've seen her rip the cover from a golf ball in under 10 seconds. Although unimaginable, she could do a lot of damage to a person if she attacked. For that reason, she is usually in a fenced backyard (when she's not in my bed) and she is walked every day on a leash. And I know where she is all the time.
Why allow a breed if training by the owner needs to nullify its vicious tendencies? We all know about the reliability of dog owners, especially pit bull owners.
Why is it exactly that few behave as you do, bluegrass? Because that vicious breed tends to attract scumbags and scumbags gravitate toward that vicious breed. Like attracts like.
Why exactly do they NEED to get a breed with such a history of killing humans?
(Let the outcry from those who were one of those reliable owners who had a rare reliable pit begin!)
Bluegrass,
Its in their breeding and upbringing The old saying "if your looking for your golden retriever check your back pocket", rings true.
I must say mine is defective however, he never has retrieved any gold. ( well except for the blond awhile back but that's another story)
Rachel I have a few questions... what dog breed doesn't have a background in killing humans? And to make a statement of "We all know about the reliability of dog owners, especially pit bull owners" is silly... I am a pit bull owner and I can promise, you don't know me or me dogs. I am not trailer trash nor am I scum. And why does anyone NEED a dog? Not why does someone NEED a breed of dog. LOL WE NEED DOGS because they are our kids, our best friends... they wait for us to come home and love us unconditionally. It doesn't matter the breed... it matters on the owners...
I have a rescue Husky/beagle mix, a Rottweiler/Chow mix adopted from the county shelter, and a Boxer/American Stafforsdhire (otherwise known as pit bull) that was a stray. All three are happy, healthy, well-trained, socialized, and kept in a fenced yard or walked on a leash. What can you tell about me as a dog owner? I guess I must be trailer trash since I have a pit bull mix! (oops - just re-read Rachel's post. I'm a scumbag!)
Oh Bull. They are GENETICALLY AGGRESSIVE. Been bred for it for centuries. They are not trained to be aggressive. Thats ridiculous. And Pit Bull owners are just as irrational as their dogs. Actually, open carry Bear Spray is a good idea for a couple of reasons.
Not only that, they are ugly dogs. And say trailer trash all over them.
Fawna you are the only ugly thing here and know nothing about breeding dogs or anything else for that matter.
Bluegrass - best comment I've seen so far. Thank goodness someone understands the basis of this problem.
Whats black and tan and looks good on a lawyer?....a pit bull.
What has 4 legs, and one little arm?
A happy pitbull.
What has two arms, two legs and no brain? Sirlafalot, I would ask you but that would be rude :)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Sirlafalot.
BAD Sflame....No beggin strip for you.....
Flames don't know it's not bacon!
Shoot as long as it isn't Waggin Train, I'll be good :D
I am sorry. I didn't know that having an opinion about a dog breed makes you an expert in that dog breed... I especially didn't know that since you obviously have never owned an American Pitbull that you are more certified to speak about them as a collective group. Seriously, all of the negative remarks are just as stereotypical as women should ONLY be in the kitchen and African Americans should ALWAYS sit in the back of the bus. Only those who are truly experience these things are an expert in their field... not those who look upon them and judge.
Awww. The Pit Bull haters are once again profiling and stereotyping the gentle animals.
Ha!
Don't lie, you are not sorry. These boards are for opinions. When people read these stories that happen way more than they should, you do form an opinion.
Do you think we should all be positive and throw a party over this?
Lisa,
I willl bring my grill. You got the beer?
A party? Seriously, that is your biggest concern? Honestly, I feel bad about the people who were bit and I do hope they find the dogs but yes, I am sorry about the stupidity of the nation. And be positive? Look Lisa, the world is an evil place... and this story is the biggest concern of the century? This dog breed will be the destruction of the world? LOOK AROUND YOU! If this is the biggest thing people can complain out, then shoot... WE SHOULD THROW A PARTY. I don't know about you but Americans get so caught up in other peoples essence (such as what type of dog breed someone owns) that they lose sight at the important things in life. I am clearly here to make a point: a dog breed should not be judged from people who know nothing about it.
Does anyone know a pitbull owner that could maybe take admission tickets for the party? I mean, someone with a pitbull is obviously deserving of all due respect for their super intelligent choice in canine breeds. Anyone?
Yep ice cold just awaiting
You are silly Sirlafalot. I don't know if IA.ScooterTramp owns a pit but I bet they would be willing to take tickets :D
I'll tell you what. I have done ER nursing and I AM an expert on that dog breed. On their damage to the human body. Crazy dogs attract crazy owners.
With all of the choices in the long list of dog breeds to chose from choosing a pit-bull makes a real statement. That statement is "Everyone around me better look to their own safety".
Your kidding right? ....Well tweety did say he saw a puddy tat.
Its NYC...hell i would be more concerned with the rats, both the four and two legged variety.
Time for another ban I guess.. Maybe we should just ban New York
Scooter, your an idiot! It was in Long Island!
idiot? Know .what the reply is for? Yet i am the idiot?
Its... LONG ISLAND ...hell i would be more concerned with the rats, both the four and two legged variety.
Happy now?
have a nice day .....
How bout we just ban dumbass people in general? That would probably take care of more than half the country and the rest of us would be a lot happier.
But david, then there wouldn't be any posts from so many of us on Newsvine... it would be a lonely place... no politicians to run for office... no talk show hosts.. no reality TV...
And you would like to be banned to where?
We'd be missing most of the Federal Government.
So much hate for a misunderstood animal. My son brought one home and then left for college leaving him with my family and I. He is a dog, a great dog a lap dog if you will let him. I have had to pull other yappy dogs off of him at dog parks. Sweet loveable and loyal, but strong as hell stubborn and tough would never let him or any dog run wild. Say what you want about the dog , but if you have never had one that is properly trained you just shut your mouth. No excuse for ignorance.
How many owners of attacking pit bulls haven't said their dogs were sweet? He was such a sweet dog, played with the children, blah, blah, blah. Just because he's sweet today doesn't mean he won't kill someone tomorrow. Just like those idiots who think they can turn tigers into safe pets by training them.
Exactly. They're "sweet" until they rip your face off.
Let's quote the gun owners, "Guns don't kill people. People do." "Pitbulls are not inherently vicious. It's the people who trained them that are." Yes, I'm a dog trainer and pitbulls are a gentle breed when raised right. Start holding the humans that own them accountable not the dogs.
My sons brought their pit to stay with us for a few weeks and I have 3 cats. Have to say, he is the most gentle, sweet dog ever. He has not growled, chased, or shown any aggression towards them at all! If anything, he is afraid of them.
I'm sick and tired of hearing people say "it's not the breed, it's the owner". BS! You never hear about a collie or lab going on a rampage.
Collies and Labs attract better owners. They will, if mistreated, hurt people.
In the past, the macho dogs of choice have been rottweilers, German Sheppards, Dobermans and other breeds I choose not to mention. (I own two).
Many of these 'pits' are a problem because of breeding, treatment, environment, and nasty people. I'd guess most pit like dogs could be considered dangerous. Oddly, well bread and correct pits are not dangerous. We have people saying their dog is great (a genuine and rare American Pit Bull Terrier) and we have the badly bread, or mixed breed pits that are unpredictable and have given the whole breed a bad reputation. Which do we ban?
These dogs were running free. Obviously the owners should be forced to run free as well.
The problem is they are mostly raised by people with bad intentions,it seems
People who know nothing about a breed but would ban it should be banned. The only time you hear about a pit bull is when it's done something wrong. What about the hundreds that are sharing homes with people and kids and are living good lives? I have a solution. By George NY logic, then I vote that if a man is convicted of raping a woman all men should have their second heads removed!! How's that George!! Does your logic still appeal to you??
I hope the dog-owners are treated as if they unleashed a dangerous weapon onto their neighbors, because that is what they did. This should be treated very seriously by the judicial system; make a strong example out of it every time dangerous dogs are allowed to hurt people. Irresponsible dog-owners need to be held accountable. This is the same as a responsible gun-owner, and one who should not have guns. If you are on the receiving-end of a dog-attack you will agree.
If you are going to own a pit bull, then you should be required to carry a million dollar insurance policy to cover damages done by the dog. We have to have insurance on our cars, why not pit bull pets too.
I say all dog owners should abide by a million dollar insurance policy. That way no one feels left out. I wouldn't want to hear down the road how pit bull owners get special privileges :)
In Ohio people who own dogs on the "Vicious Dog List" are mandated they have to carry a certain amount of liability insurance. Some of the more well known insurance companies have known to exclude themselves from insuring homes with these dogs. SFlamer I will carry a million dollar insurance policy on my Shih-Tzus when you show me proof that they are known to attack and maul people to death, just last year we had a lady riding her bicycle who was attacked and had to have multiple surgeries, not sure I have heard of the breed of dog I have doing this.
I will not judge your dog as you have judged mine but in due honestly, how many BIG dogs have YOU seen that were aggressive as compared to the little yippers? If you argue that your dog is safe because it is small then I can argue that my gun is safe because I only have one bullet. It isn't the dog... it is the owner... and I am glad that you have a well trained dog... but just because it is small doesn't mean you can justify it. Actually, in most cases people with smaller dogs tend to NOT train them and thus accept that when their small does bite, it is alright because it is a small bite. Your argument can be stated with German Shepard verses Chihuahuas, Labs verses Poodles, etc. Not just Pitbull verses Shih-Tzus.
Mako, yeah they are misunderstood. I'm sure all the people that these two dogs attacked misunderstood, the dogs were just trying to kiss them. How come we don't hear about vicious packs of poodles attacking people? Pit Bulls have been breed to be aggressive. They can be trained to be more docile, but most people that have pit bulls want aggressive animals.
Do you own one? Do you even know one. Until till you do I would suggeston you not pass judgement.
Mako21 I am smarter than to own one. I know a friend of mine owned one and had to shoot the damn thing because it went ape@!$%# and was lunging at his wife while she was standing on the kitchen counter. Guess it was just asking for a treat.
Don't own one, don't want to own one.
A neighbor was killed trying to stop a pit bull he was dog-sitting from attacking his dog. After it killed him, it ripped the smaller dog apart.
A pack (4-5) pits were running loose near where my parents lived and killed a woman that was out running, an elderly woman gardening in her own yard -- they jumped a fence to get at her -- attacked a man as he was getting out of his car and attacked the police officer that answered the call about them.
A young child was killed recently when he happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and a pit bull attacked him.
Tell me again about what sweet, gentle, friendly dogs they are....
http ://www.badrap.org/breed-history - odd that the name of this site is "badrap" and it tells of the breeding/creation of the bit bull being for fighting entertainment.
IA.ScooterTramp - you crack me up - please keep posting.
You are not permitted to own lions and tigers, why are you permitted to own a pit bull. Equally dangerous.
....and bears oh my!"
Another reason obama is NOT going to get my gun.
Newsflash! Obama doesn't want your guy, Bob. Really.
He doesn't even want your "gub". However, he doesn't think you need assualt rifles or high capacity magazines to protect yourself. Personally, I have carried enough guns. When I walk my dog, I carry a K-Bar.
Pit Bulls are only kept for 1 reason and that's shown in this story and many more like it. The ruin life for the rest of the breeds. Shoot them all.
Your ignorance is showing
A few weeks ago I was charged by my neighbors two boxers. I was unloading groceries in MY driveway and they came out of the dark after me. They had managed to jump their fence because their owner had moved a picnic table next to the fence and they climbed up and over. I was able to jump back in my car but they kept circling me for the next hour and a half, until their owner came home. It was 3 in the morning (I work second shift) My gun was in my purse, already in the house. I don't want to shoot their dogs, but if they ever come after me again, I will. It's not just pit bulls, it's negligent owners. I've also been chased by another neighbors bull terrior and rat terrior, in my own yard. Oh, I called 911, I'm still waiting for them to show up.
they most likely just wanted to lick you and say hi, that's what most dogs do. Put the gun down cowboy
FlamingoRoad wished she would have let her two pits out of the house, they would have tore them boxers up. Let me see a rat terrier, or a pit bull, I would choose the rat terrier biting at my pants cuff I could send it sailing.