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Christopher Dorner, a former Los Angeles officer.
The charred human remains located in the burned out cabin in Seven Oaks, Calif., have been positively identified to be those of Christopher Dorner, according to the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department.
Officials said the positive identification was made through a dental examination during an autopsy.
The announcement puts a cap on one of the largest and deadliest manhunts in California history.
The LAPD, which had been under a series of tactical alerts while Dorner was on the lam, cautiously returned to normal operations on Wednesday, a day after the suspect believed to be Dorner was cornered in a cabin near the Big Bear resort area.
Investigators had been combing the ski resort area since last Thursday, when Dorner’s burnt Nissan truck was found there hours after he allegedly ambushed cops in two cities, killing Officer Michael Crain.
Days earlier, police believe, Dorner killed the daughter of a retired police captain and her fiancé in Irvine to kick off a killing spree that sowed fear across the region and in the ranks of law enforcement.
All three slayings were suspected to be connected to Dorner and the plans he allegedly laid out in a manifesto targeting law enforcement officers and their families. He was incensed at the LAPD after being fired for filing a false complaint.
In a shootout on Tuesday, Dorner killed a fourth person, Sheriff's Deputy Jeremiah MacKay, and wounded another officer as he tried to escape the manhunt.
Karen and Jim Reynolds came face to face with Christopher Dorner when they arrived at their Big Bear cabin to clean it out for renters. NBC's Miguel Almaguer reports.
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I knew from the moment Christopher Dorner was trapped inside the cabin that he was going to die. In fact, I posted this on many of the earlier threads when this was unfolding. I knew, just like they did in Waco (killing many children in the process)), that they were going to chunk as many "Incendiary" tear gas canisters as they could into that cabin. NOT to "Gas em' out", but to burn him to death. Right or wrong, he like ALL others Americans (even the despicable ones) have the right to "Due process". I think they made NO attempt to get him alive...death is what they wanted, and that's exactly what they got. Lets just hope this does not "spill" over to include innocent Americans that they want "Gone". I personally think that the day for this happening may become an unfortunate reality.
you are very correct sir..
I'm sorry but if someone has proven that they CAN and WILL take out as many they possibly can its no longer a police officers duty to "make sure they get a fair trial'. it's that officers duty to make sure they don't kill no more..and at that point he even killed one more while inside..you do understand the logistics of a "shoot out' don't you?..Negotiation over..chances to surrender=0
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bf3_1360862664
A lesson to rogue cops and another one to the citizens that get in the way.
click if you are disgusted with what the POLICE have morphed into today.
Big surprise.
I'll bet the lawyers are crying there hearts out. they could have dragged this one out for years;,all the while lining thier pockets with taxpayers money...........
Congrats to the LAPD for a job well done.
Exactly. Well done. They did the right thing.
Well done like done to a turn... so who's going to clean up the @!$%#ing mess these hero wantabees left behind. mexicans ?
I am not saying what he did was right....but you have to look at the facts of the case....AFTER he set off to make a point. The LAPD shot ladies delivering papers. They rammed and shot up another Innocent driver. The scanner audio from YouTube clearly states that LAPD was on a mission to terminate him without even trying to make an effort to capture him alive.
LAPD HAS A LOT OF EXPLAINING TO DO.
LAPD needs to pay for the rebuild of the cabin they burnt down.
LAPD needs to pay for the two vehicles and medical expenses for the Innocent people they shot.
They said their was a shot before the building caught on fire.....Nothing mentioned in the Autopsy Report. Was Dorner shot by the police or was it a self-inflicted gun shot wound?
Killing innocent people is wrong....But Dorner certainly brought to light what LAPD is capable of....and did IN FRONT OF THE WHOLE WORLD WATCHING.
Thank goodness we have police to be our judge, jury and executioner! Gun Laws? Take guns away when the police have this almighty behavior....Oh Hell No!
you are absolutely correct..
You clearly don't know what you are talking about other than they were gun happy initially. The rest is all false. Please get off the internet and go spew your garbage somewhere else.
I hope Dorner has the biggest memorial service this country has seen!
He was wrong to kill people, but he also knew he had to sacrifice his own life to show that LAPD is trying to be its own country with its own laws and not have to answer to anyone.
@Mad and what if you're wrong?
This man was (((screwed))) over by the LAPD.
Will the 'facts' be released?
Probably not.
You know, 'he was rotten clear through, that's all you need to know, yes?'
Rotten?
Yup....
But hey, so is the LAPD! :(
What Dorner did was wrong.The way that the police in Torrance and the San Bernardino Sheriff's aided by LAPD went about this whole event was wrong on so many levels.I am ashamed if any of these law enforcement officers think that their actions of protecting and serving the public were the right way to go about capturing Dorner.The police who shot up the newspaper delivery women's truck and the other man whose truck was shot should all be fired.The police in charge who decided that it was ok to tear the walls down and set fire to this cabin should also be fired.We the taxpayers are on the hook for all of the monetary compensation that is to follow all because we have police officers who decide that they should be the jury,judge and executioner.My condolences to every family member who lost somebody due to Dorner's actions and also to Dorner's family.
Its a shame how it all went down, if he was really wanting to clear his name he should have contaced an investigating reporter, they like drama, shooting cops is definitely not going to clear his name, also If the cops knew he was going to go on a shooting spree why didn't they just agree to listen to what he had to say and another thing what is going to happen to those cops that shot those people by mistake, all of it just plain crazy.
He had nothing to say. He wanted them to admit to something that didn't happen. He knew this would claim his life and he had little regard for the innocent lives he took. This is a sick society that we live in when we support individuals like Dorner.
As sick as shooting at innocent women in a truck? Guess two wrongs probably don't make it right.
I bet the LA police dept gave Dorner a terrible reference so that he couldn't get a decent job after the force let him go, which probably made his anger & resentment a whole lot worse. Did he spend time in Iraq or Afghanistan? if so he was most likely suffering from PTSD, he cried out for help but they didn't listen to him.
I think it is Jimmy Hoffa.
My sentiments exactly Robert Fleming. I actually know a couple people that knew him and lets just say, he was not an innocent victim as he painted himself or the media paints him. He expected things to be handed to him and he played the victim since he was a child. he flunked out of flight school because he never studied or worked hard at it. He then blamed the teacher for his short comings. In addition, he had very violent behavior, even when he went through the academy. The cop he is accusing in his letter is a woman he dated. He got restraining orders on women that he was in a realtionship with. His marriage lasted 19 days. Don't believe everything the media spins you. He was not an upstanding guy and he has mental issues that started in his childhood. Lets face it, each department has its issues, and I am sure use of force is one of them but lets stop painting Dorner as a hero. He was a basket case and unless you knew him, I would stop supporting this loon.
I agree dont believe everthing the media says but by the same token dont believe everything your PD says either ie Kelly Thomas and many other cases.You believe everything the comes out of a cops mouth is golden. They never beat, intimidate, harrass anyone. They never lie on the witness stand or plant or fabricate evidence
Who Dorner was is irrelevant to me. The mistakes of the LAPD & LASD are the issue for society. They are the ones that are full of corruption and things they take too far. Dorner is where he probably wanted to be. But the PD and SD need to be held accountable on how they treat the public and what their ethics are.
I could care less on who the "real" Dorner was. The "real" LAPD & LASD is something that the public should be proud of. Not this band of thugs with badges that we have today. Higher Standards when hiring and better public service need to be implemented, for a start! Accountability, NO tolerance for drug use, tampering with evidence or planting things in crime scenes. Community reach programs, being more in tune with racial tensions/public knowlegde, etc.
*shrugs*
It will never happen.
To find out if someone is an idiot, give them a gun and a badge. SB Sherriff Dept. wins the idiot award.
he was under orders from the black king
That single gun shot everyone heard from inside was most likely him commiting suicide knowing it was over.
I'm sure we'll hear about a self inflicting head wound as the autopsy concludes.
This whole thing was a horrible tragity.
We sure need more love, peace & understanding in this world for sure...
Dead men tell no tales. Cornered like a gaged animal, Dorner (who was already wounded from his last shoot out) awaited is own destiny, knowing that time has ran out. Many questions remain, was that single shot after the fire erupted, from Dorner's gun or did a sharp shooter have a window of opportunity while Dorner was roaming about the cabin looking frantically for another option of survival?
The media frenzy for gun control and gun related violence will continue to pursue this tragic story of another gun toter gone haywire. Even if Dorner leaned left and was a progressive these minuet details will not see the light of day within the media files. The Dorner mini series will soon be out for all to see and its any ones guess how many times and different ways this tragic story will be spun. Thank goodness it ended but has it really?
Sorry you have all been fooled - Dorner is now in Mexico or back outside the LAPD HQ - he was too smart to be sucker punched by Game & Fish for crying out loud - just how easy is it to dump a body with your ID and have the LAPD hurry the DNA to make everything AOK. It is all bull as we will see real soon.
The conspiracy thickens. We'll never know.
you @!$%#en @!$%#s, the lapd gets away agian @!$%# you all, and I am a white man @!$%# you agian
if dorner was a right wingnut....OMG...the liberal media would be falling over each other and foaming at the mouth screaming on liberal media t.v..... ends up he's a left wing liberal extremist kook murderer of innocents.....but thats o.k.........
Well...on a lighter note...we won't have to house him and feed him for the next 60 years.....
Well, aren't you the cheapskate!
280 pounds lighter!
And if you don't know anything about the use of force, then keep your comments to yourself. The police did the right thing. "Burn" is a type of tear gas. There was a reason they used it and it was not burn down the house.
Please take off your conspiracy hats and stop talking about due process. He was shooting people, killed an innocent officer that was doing his job and was shooting at the police. He had no hostages. The police responded to his gunfire. Just was served.
I find this situation sad for the victim and for those that were victimized by Dorner but don't blame the police. Dorner was guilty, he fired at police and the proper use of force came into play. MOVE ALONG.
Move along socalcaddy....yourself. SInce when did LAPD become judge, jury and exocutioner? What happened to due process in America...? That would be the 5th AMENDMENT of the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES if you didn't know that yet. He had the right to a trial by jurors. I didn't know LAPD became those jurors.....
I am glad it is over. I am happy for the tax payers. The people out in Cal dont have to pay for him or hear his bull@!$%# for the next 50 years.
Go Niners!!
Cheesehead13,We'll be paying more for the house that was burned down and the 3 people who had their trucks shot up.Either way we the taxpayer will be paying.Burning a house down to the ground with Dorner inside is vigilante justice and not acceptable to me.Shooting innocent people in their vehicles without probable cause is unacceptable to me.If I were one of those newspaper delivery woman I would own the entire state of California.
I do not know how the forensic department at LAPD works...one supposes it is efficient, accurate and reliable! Yes?
Now let us look at all the procedure, protocols and expenses involved in capturing this man...of course killing him. Was killing him, any way they can, part of their initial objective?
It is truly amazing how little we public know about all these tactical procedures that goes into a manhunt, capture or killing of a suspect or a criminal.
Who is going to review this whole drama from the start? Including use of excessive and reckless force, with bullets, on innocent civilians, and a search that demanded people driving certain cars or wearing certain clothes stay indoors and low - creating more fear among civilians...while Dorner was not after civilians.
Nearly five million dollars a day spent on police security and police with a long history of being far too trigger happy in many communities...killing, shooting and scaring innocent civilians.
Nearly 30,000 people in popular social media rooting for Dorner. This might be an awful thing considering Dorner had killed three people at the time and had clearly stated his intention to go down shooting and killing more LAPD officers. But why is there is so much dislike of the LAPD, distrust of the LAPD and anger towards the LAPD that people need to support a man who wants to kill LAPD officers? It is not all PR problem. LAPD has PR people working full time.
Independent investigations are necessary!
If a civilian is stalked, harassed, shot at or killed...would there be this much concern, response and organized effort by the police?
Repeat after me: "The police are here to serve and protect the community! The public is there to help and cooperate only within a reasonable limit. The public is not there to obediently follow police orders like a bunch of sheep and cower to their authority willy nilly. And the people should not be treated as enemy number 1 to the police, and the police should never be disliked by the civilians they serve".
The rich of Southern California who consume quite a bit of the State budget for policing and security because of their special status better start working on behalf of everybody...not just the privileged few.
Demand independent investigation on everything: from protocols to strategies to assumptions to intentions to minute by minute behaviors...and the thinking behind police information, attitude, conduct, search, capture or killing.
This is not a joke...Southern California is being called " a third world system of hierarchy, with highly classist sexist prejudiced or incompetent professional cowboys, including in the police force, running amuck with aggression and guns"
Not a good image for a State that needs more revenue, investments and tourism.
There are excellent, good and honest cops within the LAPD...but there needs to be more. And get rid of the incompetent, psychologically unbalanced, culturally insensitive, corrupt and aggressive ones. Otherwise there might more pissed off ex employees, employees and civilians...who might take a Rambo style approach to their problem like Dorner.
I agree with most of what you said.
Especially: "This is not a joke...Southern California is being called "a third world system of hierarchy, with highly classist sexist prejudiced or incompetent professional cowboys, including in the police force, running amuck with aggression and guns."
Now that hes dead, the truth will never come out because the only version were going to get will come from liars and corrupt law enforcement. They purposely set the cabin on fire and kicked the media out so that only their version is what we know. Now lets get back to the consequences for the criminals who shot up the ladies truck in their rush to judgment. As in most cases it will be covered up and as well as the events up in big bear. An American is spring is long over due to clean the corrupt bureaucracy that runs this country
Yup. Will the trigger happy cops get busted? Nope. LAPD is corrupt. This idiot handled it all wrong - but he had a point.
Remove your tin foil hat please...
If Waco didn't wake the First Amenment Right carrying American public up, this won't either. This WILL be talked about, in a round about way, at the Arms dealerships around the country and thern forgotten. You have the right to bare arms.., but an Army of boot-jacks awaits you to BURN you out as you cowar behind defendsless walls. You have the right to bare arms to kill yourself before the para-military gestapo does they duty to their own "family". THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF government troops in each STATE await your dumb, assault rifle and Glock pistol buying ass with "incendiary" smoke devices.
Can you say "(Soviet) Union Bar-B-Que !!??!