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Authorities are looking for the person who fatally shot and beat a pet cat in the lower Hudson River Valley in New York last month, and officials say the suspect may be the same individual who has killed three other cats near the area since July.
Officials in Putnam County say a Patterson, N.Y, man called the local Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Feb. 7 and said his cat appeared to have been shot while it was outside.
Authorities found the 7-month-old black and brown female Calico cat, named "Blackfoot," with a neck wound; the feline also appeared to be paralyzed from its mid-section to its hind paws.
The cat was rushed to a nearby hospital, where veterinarians conducted an X-ray and found a metal projectile embedded in part of the animal's spine. Animal control officers said the suspect may have used a high-powered BB gun or a low-caliber rifle to fire the projectile at the cat.
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Veterinarians also found a spinal fracture that they believe was caused by blunt force trauma.
"I believe the person called her over, the shot her in the back, then kicked her," said Blackfoot's owner Robert Kitts, who found her bleeding outside his home last week.
The cat remained under veterinary care at the Westchester Animal Hospital until it died Feb. 11 due to progressive paralysis, authorities said.
Officials are looking into whether the latest case of cat abuse may be connected to a severed cat head found staged in August in an intersection half a mile from where Blackfoot was shot. Authorities are also investigating if those incidents are connected to two other cat beheadings in July several miles away in the Connecticut towns of Oxford and Fairfield.
"We responded to a call not quite half a mile from here where we found a decapitated cat's head that was placed in the middle of the road," said Ken Ross of the Putnam County SPCA. "That took place within a month of two cats that were found nearby in Connecticut in the same condition."
Authorities are concerned that the cat killer could move to more serious crimes.
"It's moving into the realm of -- something's going to happen to a human," said Ross. "Something's going to be done to a human because this person no longer has the control to hold back."
Anyone with information about animal abuse in the area is asked to call (845) 520-6915 or visit www.spcaputnam.org.
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Sick s.o.b. needs to be catstrated!!
What kind of low life would brutally attack a helpless little trusting pet?
Agree, any worthless waste of flesh who tortures and brutalizes needs to be leashed below the belt. He will move on to do the same thing to children and women - or already has. If the planet survives another 100 years or so, eventually a good percentage of all males born probably will become eunuchs. If nothing more, it would keep them from passing along their sickness to male seedlings.
JK, That person isn't a low life, that person is vile, vicious and a evil monster. They are the type of monster that would kill their own mother or child. Pathetic and sick!
Ohh, so as long as he kills cats, cops won't worry. But if he did move to people, then they should worry? What kind of fu@king morals are you pretending to have there on the East Coast, COPS?
Wow, a serial cat killer breaks into peoples homes and kills their pet cats... No, wait a minute. Irresponsible pet owners who allowed their cats to roam at will killing song birds lost their wild cats to a bird lover. Hmmm. Wonder which is the real story here?
I hate cats as much as the next person that is alergic to them like me. But I could never hurt once. They are still beautiful animals and Gods creation. This cat killer needs to be stopped! And then make the killer live with Mike Vick for a couple years.
If a person simply wanted to kill a cat because it was attacking their pets, they wouldn't go on to behead it and leave it for someone to find. That is the action of someone who has other issues.
As for cats being allowed out of the house... I (we) have 3 and they are made to stay indoors, but that's because it's really not safe for them to be out in the city, there's not anywhere for them to go. I don't particularly like keeping them in, they need to be able to get out, stretch their legs, and have a bit of freedom. Ours will try and get out sometimes if we open the back door, so you can tell they really want to. I've had cats all my life and they've otherwise been allowed out whenever they feel like it. Yeah, sometimes they kill things like birds and mice, but that's nature for you.
Castrated, no. Beheaded yes. Maybe paralyzed first.
Rob080: " I've had cats all my life and they've otherwise been allowed out whenever they feel like it. Yeah, sometimes they kill things like birds and mice, but that's nature for you."
In fairness then, you must be ok with the fact that people kill wild cats. After all, that's nature for you. Would you let your pet dogs roam wild, as well? If your roaming pit bull killed a child would you say "that's nature for you"?
Honest to goodness, sometimes I wonder if people actually read what they post on these boards.
@littlechanges
You are making the assumption that this "sicko" is male! Perhaps a deranged female bird lover!!
It starts with animals and when that is no longer challenging, what's next? Of course the reality is that we are also animals.
a recent msn article stated that cats kill millions of small animals every year. hard to feel sorry for them!
in the meantime hundreds of cats are killed daily in NY by the shelters unable to cope with the abandoned animals.
First sign of a future mass-murderer, abusing animals. They're right, find this guy quick and put him away.
stratcat8 --- cats kill small animals because that's their nature. they can't help it. owners should keep pets locked up to prevent them from hunting. btw how many deaths to pigs, cattle, and chickens did you cause because you like bacon, hamburgers, and wing dings? you'll probably cop out and claim you're a vegetarian.
What a travesty when cats are hunted down like animals.
This is why I keep my cat inside. We only let her outside for a short time while supervised and she's okay with it. There are a lot of sickos out there and I want to keep my precious feline family member safe. This is the only way.
I sincerely hope that Karma catches up with that P.O.S
littlechanges,
And what if the cat killer is a woman. Raging feminists are alive and well I see.
so many comments about "castrating", "hanging", and beheading this guy. For killing cats?? If only the same sentiment from people existed when PEOPLE are attacked, raped, mutilated, and murdered. Oh no, then we have to have a fair trial, look at their childhood, set a parole date for good behavior.
I have a cat, he lives in luxury....but he is no human. If my neighbor caught him @!$%#ting in his flower bed and shot him, I would apologize to my neighbor for not being more attentive as the owner. I dont like the smell of cat @!$%# either.
Jim, you dont read many comments on NBC do you. Look at any case or rape, molestation or murder. Hell, read the article of the disabled runner who killed his girlfriend. Everyone is saying he is guilty and wants him hanged. This is not unique to animals.
It is illegal to let your cat out here. They fine people $200 for cat at large. My wife would let our cats out. They were declawed, which meant the could not protect there self. We we always taking them to the vet because something would bite them. Half shaved cats look sick. When they would die she would get a new one from the shelter. They were always had problems. We are catless and my life is better. Her father shot German Shepard's on sight, but that a WWII story.
what if you don't like cats? ha!
It's time for stronger penalties for animal abuse! People who have no respect for the life of an animal have no respect for the life of a human, either, and will do this to other people. Think I'm exaggerating? Look up some studies. There are strong psychological links between the behaviors.
Jim, you have some serious problems if you think shooting a cat, which doesn't understand a flower bed is off limits, is ok. You should try to be a more compassionate and understanding human being. Be part of the solution to violence, in all forms, not the problem.
norm.... you are one ignorant person, you need to get out and educate yourself, you dont want to know what I would do to someone if I found them torturing my cats or anyone's cats, might let em meet my shutzund 3 German Shepard. and I must add that oh oh oh you are also an idiot and so was the idiot who shot German shepherds on sight...WTF is wrong with you people...i dont know what p[planet you live on but it is not illegal to let your cat roam in the USA
How horrible that someone would do this! People - Keep Your Cat Inside! There are too many ways they can get hurt or killed - especially in urban areas!
oh oh oh, you have some seriously f'ed up people in your life.
I've always had indoor cats, my neighbor lets theirs roam and kill all the squirrels in my backyard. They also poop in my wife's garden.. What's worse is dog walkers... letting their dogs crap on other people's lawns.. I'm temped to dump my cat's litter box on their front lawn.
Cat owners should always spay/neuter their pets and keep them inside. There are too many dangers, including cat serial killers, out there - cars, dogs, coyotes, other cats (feral), etc.
Stratcat8 - Yes, cats kill small animals and birds and have for centuries. That is why they were considered valuable throughout history and why the Egyptians revered them. The ancient Egyptians had to guard their grain, which they had plenty of, and cats killed the mice and rats that ate the grain. Before I knew better, we had a cat, not altered, that went out every night and would come back dragging his butt in in the morning. Often, he used to drop off his prey, mainly mice, in our driveway or porch as "presents". Jeez, thank you, Floyd! (Yuck). Floyd got hit by a car trying to cross the street. My husband and I were devasted and from that time on, always got our pets spayed/neutered and they always stayed inside.
Jim - Maybe you missed the point of this article. Right now, this sicko is killing/beheading cats. Like many serial killers, he/she will graduate to killing humans. This is why this person needs to be found. You say you have a cat. Imagine your cat getting shot/paralyzed/tortured for no reason, not just because he's digging in a flower bed. Would you be okay with that? Also, are flowers more important than a cat/dog? You can always replace flowers. Cats/dogs/humans aren't so easy to replace. You can always tell your neighbor that you'll pay for the flowers and plant them yourself. Not every action by anyone/anything needs to be met with violence, there are other ways to settle disputes.
Every cat is an individual. If they are allowed outside, which is just stupid and not very responsible, do you really think the cat should be shot? Your cat? What kind of neighbor do you have that would think about shooting a cat versus talking to you about it, first? You allowed the cat outside. The cat has no idea that there are boundaries to his world. He has no idea that he shouldn't be @!$%#ing in a flower bed. Cats are very territorial and probably feels the flower bed is his very own litter box. As a cat, he doesn't think the way a human does, nor should he be expected to. He's a cat.
BackEast, I guess you did not read about the couple putting poop on a mans doorstep last week. The man went nuts and shot them both to death with multiple rounds. Best to rethink with the wackos in this world.....
This is one of those signs of a mental illness that needs to be addressed before this person becomes another Jeffrey Dahmer.
The article you are referring to was about a rich bird-lover in New Zealand who started publishing claims of how cats were killing millions of endangered birds a year. If you would have paid attention or finished reading the article nbc had the factual statistics on what cats kill a year. The article was about the New Zealander's facts being so far from the truth. Also if a species killing millions of small animals every year was cause for killing that species, we'd only have a handful of animals left on Earth and humans would not be one of them. Another piece of logic that seems to escape your mind, is that many of the small animals cats are killing also kill smaller animals themselves. Cycle of life, death and life two sides of the same coin, etc. etc.
When people labeled sociopaths start out on and focus on animals, it is an eventuality they will move up a couple of notches of the food chain and start on human beings.
It is natural for people to kill cats? Since when?
I was going to say "Surely you understand that a rifle or BB gun isn't natural", but then I realized you might be a Republican, so perhaps you think that guns are a part of human nature.
Lnkfrfrdm (post 1.25) Reread your post. You'll be surprised that you make my case perfectly. Thanks for the help!
Differences occur in animals. If an animal is wild and native to a particular ecosystem, he is a strand in the web of all life or biodiversity. The domestic cat is not biodiversity anywhere on Earth. Scientifically, this cat is an introduced, transported, invasive, killer predator and a top agent of extinction of biodiversity globally when Europeans transported this cat, globally, beginning 400 years ago. The domestic cat caused over twice as many of these extinctions as the second agent, the European rat.
Today, we have scientific study after study conducted around the world, indicating domestic cats are wiping out the very animals that create and support ecosystems and human existence. We humans are only breathing because of wild, natural ecosystems, and ecosystems only create and sustain all life because of their native species of plants and animals, i.e, the work force of life aboard Earth.
In 1997, a member of Australia's parliament called for "the total eradication of all domestic cats" in Australia. Cats had decimated 39 of their strands in the web of all life. In New Zealand, this non-native, planet killing predator, pushed 8 bird species extinct. The dodo was one of these birds that fell extinct when Europeans introduced their animals around the world.
Recently, scientists at U of Georgia released their study, indicating cats are causing far more damage than all of the countless other studies conducted in the 90's, like the Wisconsin Study, the Great Britain Study, the Australia Study, etc.
Okay norm:
Err, no. At least not anymore it's not. I don't think humans ever hunted wild cats as an instinct. They killed them as protection though. Watch a cat when it sees birds, or squirrels, or many other animals, even when it's through a window. THAT'S nature. THAT'S instinct. (And this is not even getting into the fact that we are capable of understanding and reasoning that cats are not).
Dogs and cats are not the same. I wouldn't let a 'big cat' roam wild either. Rightly or wrongly, humans are the one's that exhibit most control over the planet we live on. We make the decisions about what to do to protect ourselves. One of those is not letting dogs off their leashes as they can be a big threat to us. Domestic cats, on the other hand, do not present the same threat.
YOU do?
I'm sorry and heart sick that someone's cat(s) have been brutally attacked, maimed, and killed.
However, as an avid pet ADVOCATE, I do not follow the rule or thought of having an "outside" cat. There is no such thing. Sure, some people chain their dogs outside, but those owners should have the same done to them!
I do not condone an "outside cat" as a pet. NO pet should freely roam outside. It is a wild, crazy world out there, obviously.
Keep your beloved pets indoors where, perhaps, no harm will befall them.
This, from a man with 8 years veterinary tech experience. Now, working in the human animal side of things.
Peace.
The reasons that any species becomes extinct are complex for the most part, usually involving more than one cause (unless you're a passenger pigeon or an egret). Using the "logic" of the studies cited by skor154.... let's see... human beings are actually an invasive species on every continent except Africa and humans have had far more to do with species becoming extinct than any other predator... should we eradicate humans? I will accept, for the sake of the cats as much as the birds and rodents they hunt, that pet owners should be responsible and spay/neuter their animals. But to suggest that one species be eradicated to (and the data in these studies is questionable and very biased) spare another is ridiculous. For various reasons, taking on one because the owner died, taking on another because it was made homeless... my family currently has 5 cats... all spayed/neutered. We live in an extremely rural area with few roads so our cats are indoor/outdoor and have all their claws so they can defend themselves. Ours are so fat and lazy that only one of the five stirs herself to hunt and she is wearing two bells so getting birds is extremely difficult. She catches maybe two or three all summer long and lots of shrews, moles and mice. In the hands of responsible pet parents cats are beautiful, independent and occasionally behave as the predators they have been since prehistoric times. They have as much right to space on the planet as any other species.
Poor cats. So sad. Hopefully this person is caught very soon.
Kris, Riverboy and Byron,
could not have said it better myself, thank you, you took the words out of my mouth.
Skor154,
you're at it again! In the past I have proved to you numerous times that you are WRONG. I wish you would just take the time to educate yourself instead of spewing hatred towards cats with your lies. And BTW your stupid quote of chief Seattle: if you educate yourself you would find it was a publicity stunt, he never wrote that speech. (referring to the web of life) Here are 2 links for you, but I seriously doubt you would even bother to read facts.
http://www.terranature.org/extinctBirds.htm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/8102878/Songbirds-poached-and-eaten.html
"Humans
Are Driving Birds to Extinction, Group Warns
James Owen in England
for National Geographic News
May 16, 2003"
And the biggest predator of all life is the human. Do you know how many migrating songbirds are served as delicacy in Italy, Spain and Greece? Millions each year! So make yourself useful and aim your hatred were it belongs: humanKIND!
mountainlady,
thank you, well said. I presently have 6 rescued cats (mostly from irresponsible owners) and I built them an outdoor "catio" measuring 12'x16'x8' and they love it. They go out during the day, all are spayed and neutered and I have been in cat rescue for many years. People need to be more responsible, but there is NO excuse whatsoever to want to harm them. That POS should pick on somebody his own size, and I hope he doesn't have any kids.
Did you watch Nat'l Geographic's, "The Secret Lives of Cats"? Did you peruse the Wisconsin Study, the Virginia Study, the Illinois Survey, the Bird Feeder Study, the recent U of Georgia Study, the Great Britain Study, the Australia Study, Dr. Crooks' Study and the Swedish Wildlife Study? Why are all of these scientists attempting to ring alarm bells? It is humans that care more about their cats' recreation than they do their own life giving and supporting services, cycles and systems.
Why not have the same laws applicable to dogs, applied to these killer kitties? Indoor cats are safer from cars, big dogs, freeways and angry gardeners? Why permit the "most dangerous predator ever introduced" to mangle and torture birds, foxes, coyote puppies, squirrels, chipmunks, bunnies, amphibians and reptiles when we have options?
All of the researchers at Point Reyes Bird Observatory have their doctorates: "Songbird populations on every continent are in steep decline...To be conservative, say that only one in ten of those cats kills only one bird a day. This would yield a daily toll of 4.4 million songbirds ---...and probably a low estimate [e.g., many cats get multiple birds a day...British Natural History [July, 1989]..."the healthier the outdoor house cat, the more small birds and other animals it will kill...hunting is cats' favorite pastime; it is not a matter of hunger."
"International Council for the Preservation of Birds and ProNatur": "When people colonize new parts of the world, they like to populate their new environments with familiar animals and plants. But this introduction of alien species has probably brought about the extinction of more birds than any OTHER SINGLE CAUSE IN RECENT HISTORY."
"The scientific community is increasingly concerned about cat predation."
"The most dangerous predator ever introduced is the domestic cat." The Swedish Wildlife Study.
Another scientist: "In Massachusetts in 1991, a house cat killed all the week-old chicks of a colony of threatened least terns. Out west, California quail are declining and throughout North America, ground-nesting meadow larks are decreasing by 10 percent annually...due to cat depredation."
"Extinct Birds": "...they live only on those parts of the atoll still free of feral cats..."
"Wildlife in America": "Man is invariably a new factor of the most dangerous potential. The fiercest animal of all, he is especially destructive when he introduces, in addition to himself, such rapacious mammal relatives as the rat, the mongoose, and the cat, all of the beasts superbly equipped to make short work of birds, eggs and other edible life -- escaping the attention of their large ally."
Do your own research. Search online, Cats killing birds and wildlife. Are you science phobic? All of these cat studies are conducted by scientists, Ph'd's and ecologists, that have the capacity to get the big picture, that cats are essentially killing Earth and all the reasons mankind breathes.
For gods sake, I have had cats that went out for most of my life and the number of times they brought home a bird can be counted on 1 hand (maybe 2). My brother in law had a cat (he was a stray we rescued) that was a good hunter, but he rarely caught birds, more land borne animals. The other stray cats (3 now) we care for (yes, had them spayed/neutered) don't really seem to catch anything. I think 1 of them caught a mouse once, but that was it.
Hyperbole.
Rob80: (post 1.37) Domestic cats, on the other hand, do not present the same threat."
Rob, to whom? Birds, small animals, etc. would tend to disagree.
I live in a very rural area. Yep there are cats here but if they are feral or out roaming they are only part of the food chain as have been several of my beloved dogs. Local yokels think it a great sport to get a bunch of beer and go shoot cats at the dump. Local ranchers used to shoot any dog on their proerty and hang it on their fence. On rancher shot a little mother dog and her pup because she strayed from my land. I had the satisfaction of arresting him as I was a fed LEO. He was an ex felon who boasted to me with attitude he was protected by law when I confronted him while I was off duty. However, I ran a back ground on him and found he was a felon who did prison time for killing a girl passenger while he was DUI. I seen him in the field on a ATV where he had killed my two small dogs carrying a rifle and a big 44 mag pistol. Then the local Sheriff deputy didn't want to arrest him and the local DA didn't want to press charges citing the cowboy was just doing his job. And cited the County ordinance about legally killing any animals that molested live stock. I had to remind the DA that there was also a new county ordinance about killing domestic pets in the county. And most of all the state law forbidding felons to posess firearms. Then came justice court where the judge was reluctant to find the cowboy guilty as he also hired the cowboy to help with his livestock. The judge actually pled with me to drop the charges. I stood firm so the cowboy was given no jail term and a small fine. Another most hienous act is people who poison domestic animals...
WT? I tried to edit my typos and it just jumped back to post my original draft? I went on to say; The cowboy got a dose of is own medicine after the slap on wrists from friendly court. A fellow rancher shot the cowboy's cattle dogs when they strayed into his pasture. The cowboy went to beat up the rancher and got his butt kicked good. I also add prior to arresting this cowboy. I had obtained neighboring witnesses statements about the guy toting firearms and threatening to shoot their dogs if they were on the property he worked on.
We shouldn't allow the police to use such blatant false equivalencies.
Last time I checked humans do NOT enter my backyard, poop in my rose bushes, kill the song bird babies in their nests, yowl for a mate at 3 AM, or become uncontrollable by shifting territory if a few are removed by animal control.
And if you do, I may be tempted to pop a few BB's in your but also.
I find those sanctimonious people that are more concerned for pets than humans rather pathetic.
Frank:
It's not a matter of people being more concerned about pets, it's a matter of someone who can show such cruelty to an animal is usually how a lot of serial killers start out. It's not a false equivalency, and it has been seen several times in the histories of serial killers.
I get that no everyone likes cats. I happen to like them (and dogs too), but for someone to be so cruel by shooting one and breaking its back, then leaving it for dead, or by severing its head, it's a concern for the police.
First of all, can everyone please learn that cats are not the only animals that kill song birds. Many animals including foxes, raccoons and snakes also include song birds in their cusines. Squirrels and other birds will eat their eggs; even hawks go after them sometimes.
And 'what if you don't like cats, ha!' That does not give you the right to destroy other people's property. Pets are property.
And if you really don't like cats, you would want to do the exact same thing that someone who really loves cats would do: You would demand that all breeders are eliminated until this country gets a grip on the animal shelter problem. Shelters in big cities kill thousands of animals a week. Just one shelter in Lancaster, California, not exactly a city center, kills 800 animals each week.
Find the person, tell him to come over to you, shoot him in the back and then kick him and leave him where he falls. sick bastard.
This is a scientific issue and problem. The domestic cat is the top agent of the extinctions of biodiversity in the last 400 years when Europeans transported the domestic cat around the world, and Earth convulsed with a massive spasm of extinction of the strands in the web of all life. Scientists claim, extinctions are about as safe for humankind as "thermonuclear war." Scientifically, domestic cats are killing every reason Earth supports all life, including humankind's. Domestic animals are not biodiversity and are not the community members of Earth's life giving and sustaining work force. If an animal is wild and native to an ecosystem, he is a rivet holding spaceship Earth, altogether.
"The dodo and Solitaire of the Mascarenes, Lord Howe's white gallinule and rails everywhere were wiped out in the next wave of extinction -- caused by predatory mammals introduced by people. Cats and rats were the worst of these." "Save the Birds" The domestic cat caused twice as many of these extinctions as the second agent of planetary death, the European rat.
Palo Alto Wildlife Rescue: "Domestic cats, introduced and unnatural predators in North America, can have a devastating impact on the survival of native wildlife, even in urban areas."
Mankind is alive because of ecosystems: Dr. George Fenwick, president, American Bird Conservancy: "To maintain the integrity of our ecosystems, we have to conserve the animals that play integral roles in those ecosystems. Every time we lose another bird species or suppress their population numbers, we're altering the very ecosystems that we depend upon as humans. This issue clearly needs immediate conservation attention."
The Swedish Wildlife Study: "The domestic cat is the most dangerous predator ever introduced."
"I am calling for the total eradication of cats in Australia". Mr. Richard Evans, member of Australia's parliament..."Cats are responsible for 39 species being either extinct, locally extinct or near extinct in Australia."
Facing extinction for eternity, the California least tern, a protected listed specie: "Off road vehicles and predation for cats."
Translated: The domestic cat is a rapacious rivet popper on spaceship Earth.
skor,
please see post #1.41
and finally get a clue
Do you know how many books and how many scientific papers I have on this subject? I talked with the president of my local wildlife rescue. I asked her, how many animals and birds do you get that have been attacked, tortured and mangled by domestic cats? She said, oh, we get them all the time. Birds with their eyeballs dangling out; animals and birds with their bellies split open and their entrails hanging out of their little bodies.
One family was in charge of all of the fatalities of bunnies in this rescue group. They begged, begged people to make their pet cats, indoor cats only. You should have seen their faces, full of horror at what cats are doing.
I don't need any research or scientific studies. A wildlife-lover and bird devotee, I have witnessed the carnage and brutality of what cats are doing. I had to remove my bird feeder and bird bath because it was like ringing the dinner gong. Cat owners have deprived me of my basic, private property rights. I was attempting to track a young mother bird and her nestlings on my private property that was fenced. After the nestlings fledged, I had four domestic, pet cats devouring them, like they were on speed. I know what cats are doing; I've witnessed it over and over?
Cat owners who permit their cats outdoors to slaughter and mangle everything that moves are selfish and scientifically illiterate, not realizing, they are destroying the strands in the web of all life. Shame on you. You care more about your cats' recreation than the inherent rights of your neighbors and gardeners and are so scientifically ignorant as to destroy every reason you breathe. Shame on you.
Serial killers frequently start with animals and move on to humans.
To Blackfoot's owners, my condolences on your loss. Pets frequently become as much a member of the family as the humans in the family.
To the police ... get this (expletive deleted by me) off the streets before more families lose their pets and before he moves on to hunting people.
Yes. It is quite disturbing. As if what that psycho did to the poor cat wasn't disturbing enough, it shows a disturbing pattern that all too often only escalates into increasingly worse acts.
Yep, this is Jeffery Dahmer material. Find this ahole and and throw away the prison door key........
Also Luka Magnata..who is now in jail cell in Canada and will be on trial for killing and dismembering an international student..
@Cat.... so much for hunters eh?
Maybe this sick behavior will lead to the person being caught before he moves on to humans.
Cat owners - keep your cats inside - they are safe there, they live longer and healthier lives, and they will not be decimating the wild bird population.
No, Back East. Most hunters are responsible and hunt for the meat. My husband is a hunter and we take as much meat as we can get off the deer, including scraps, and we eat it. In Virginia we have a program called Hunters for the Hungry where hunters take the meat to a professional butcher where the deer get processed and given to those people who are in need. I have personally helped to process the deer that my husband shoots every year that we have been married.
I agree with mailman that pets should be kept primarily inside. My cats NEVER go out and my dog only goes out to go potty or to play with my son. She lives 90% of her life INSIDE. We have coyotes and (despite what the Fish and Wildlife people say) mountain lions out there plus they HAVE released grey wolves in the state. They also are reintroducing elk. But cats and dogs are COMPANION animals and they are PACK animals ... if they are kept primarily outside they don't understand why they are being isolated from their "pack".
I am so sorry for the losses, they are at Rainbow Bridge. We are cat lovers. If I caught the person with my cat, end of story.
I was doing fine until your post mentioned Rainbow Bridge. Can't even see those words without breaking down, let alone reading the whole thing. Now I'll be crying all day. So much for objectivity. Do hope they catch this sick person soon. And no one mention Rainbow Bridge again please. Too sad.
Rainbow Bridge.
Stop it....Oh here I go again...where's the kleenex.
This is such a sad and disturbing story, but I have to admit, stanboy, that you made me LOL.
Meow!!
Another unstable nut job with a fire arm. Wtf is wrong with this world?
its a bb gun. but nut job was accurate.
Should we cut off his foot, too, since he kicked the cat? (Sorry about the male pronoun, but you get the drift. ) It's not the weapon, it's the person who does the damage--put the blame exactly where it belongs. As long as we continue to enable these harmers/killers by diverting the blame to a tool, they will continue to kill--tool or no tool. It's true for killers of animals, as well as people.
GodofFate was right about the name--"nutjob." Sadly, we have far too many nutjobs in the world. They've been around for a long time, too. I don't know what causes or creates them, but they don't care. The ones who are hurt are the ones who DO care. Once this nutjob is caught, the only real cure and prevention will be to lock him up forever. Once one starts, he won't quit. When (not if) he gets to little Tommy, the option of disposal of said nutjob should come to the forefront.
If this kind of killer doesn't scare you, I don't know what will.
zapper it is not a gun argument. It is an observation that without the bb gun the cat would not have been shot. Ditto all the other shootings. Most of these "men" are sniveling little cowards and hand to hand combat is not for them. Killing an animal, child, is easy. Killing a man in face to face combat not so much.
The person harming these animals should be very fearfull of something happening to a human ! Should he or she run into someone who's companion he has harmed it could be a very painful experience for them to say the least !!
It was an assault BB-Gun... You know they hold over 200 BBs, made of black plastic, and look like a military machine gun.... ooooh, don't forget about the pistol grip (just like ALL pistols do [sarcasm].
JPR, you're right, it's not a gun argument--just my point. It's about people hurting others, whether human or pet or anything else. I don't understand what makes people like this, but it's very, very scary. We need to find out where that "break" from conscience occurs, and do our best to rectify or prevent it. I don't know how, it's not my forte. I just know it happens.
If helps at all, and anyone who does these destructive things is reading my words, please stop. Find mental help. Reach out to someone you trust, and give them a chance to guide you. It won't be too late until you make it too late, and you know what I mean. All I can do is ask. Please try.
Any one who purposely causes pain to another living thing is evil and working on becoming more so. That said, cats are an invasive species. They are among the most destructive of animals we have introduced and should be humanely destroyed at every opportunity. If you have cats for pets be a responsible owner & keep them in the home. If you let them out & they are killed it is your fault.
And you are an azzhole.
While I agree that cat owners should keep their cats inside, they are not at fault for the willful actions of another, for lack of a better word, person. These cat owners probably feel bad enough without you piling on.
Plus, you seem to contradict yourself by first saying they SHOULD be destroyed and then saying that people are AT FAULT for their destruction. Which side are you on?
Cats invasive and destructive? Wtf?
Don't you know that the Plauge took off after they killed a bunch of cats because they were superstitious about how cats skulked around in the shadows at night? The reality is the cat was just doing what it does, hunting prey at night. But without all those cats, the rat population (talk about invasive species) skyrocketed, giving rise to Plauge carrying fleas that are found on the rats. All that from persecuting cats.
VLGil
I second that...
Cats are the most destructive animals? We have millions of cats in this country, yet they haven't managed to bring any other species to the brink of extinction. What about boa constrictors that have been let out into the Florida everglades? Or the mongoose in Hawaii? We've had an Asian spotted beetle problem around my area that has made local towns cut down tons of trees to prevent their spread because they kill trees. These are a lot more damaging than a cat that occasionally brings home a mouse it killed.
I think pet owners should be responsible for their animals (I have two cats and a dog, and both of my cats are indoor only, unless I bring them outside), but I think you're giving cats too much credit. Cats help keep pest populations down.
OK, Wally. I have TWO cats, and if you or anyone else brought harm to them, the consequences would be far, far worse than the worst thing your reptilian brain could conjure up. Believe me, you have no idea. Somehow I doubt your relatives would even miss you.
Human are the invasive species, A hole. And you are a fine example. What we need is a thinning of the human herd.
Cats have not brought the planet to the edge of extinction with weapons of mass destruction, turned once beautiful lands and waters into a garbage dump, covered lush green fields with concrete and asphalt for parking lots and roads, made the air unfit to breath with deadly poison gases from factories and motor vehicles, destroyed millions of human lives with senseless wars, and perpetrated a continuous obliteration of the beauties of nature for financial profit. Humans are without a doubt the most "invasive and destructive" species on planet Earth. If aliens come from another world seeking intelligent life, they will view cats as far superior to humans, and will conclude that since humans are destructive parasites, they must be eradicated to protect the environment.
Steven Kage-4016260 Thank you. Re: "If aliens come from another world seeking intelligent life, they will view cats as far superior to humans, and will conclude that since humans are destructive parasites, they must be eradicated to protect the environment."
Why wait for aliens to make that conclusion? It's already obvious to me. Too bad we can't start the eradication now.
...maybe I'm the alien.
If you allow your cat to roam loose then you are responsible if they get injured or killed, If your cats come on my property and attack my livestock then I have the right to dispose of them as nuisance predators, If you want a cat as a companion animal then keep it on your own property, And if you think making threats while hiding behind anonymously behind a keyboard somehow makes you seem like a tough guy you are sadly mistaken, If you want to have an animal as a companion then be responsible and do not leave it run loose, Cats should be licensed just as dogs are licensed and cat owners should face penalties and fines if their cats are found running loose just like dog owners are in many communities.
I see dead cats on the roadways everyday because of irresponsible people like you. Do you blame the person who hit your cat with a car when it runs out in front of them, I blame people like you for their death.
Yes what this person is doing is wrong, Indiscrimantley killing is wrong but so is allowing your cat to run loose. The cat is dead because the cat owner let it run loose.
@Lost, So if your livestock gets off of your property and on to mine, then I have the right to kill it also??? Because we all know that cows, goats, sheep, horses...,etc never get lost right..........
IDIOT
Poor Roscoe,When my cow or goat or sheep kills your cat you have my permission to kill it, If my animal somehow manages to ecape the corrals that I have built for it and somehow manages to come over to your property and caused damage I will pay for it, If one of my chickens somehow manages to escape and get to your property you have my permission to have a free chicken dinner, But I will not intentionally let my animals loose and I will inspect my fences and maintain vigilence over my stock to make sure they will not escape and wander on your property, you however seem to think it is OK to actually let your piece of sh!t cat loose to go wherever it roams.
You are the @sshole idiot
House cats attacking livestock? What world do you live in? I know its true that a land owner with livestock can kill animals that attack their animals, but I've never heard of a house cat attacking livestock, not even chickens, and I live in the country.
I might add that I keep my cat inside, and only let it out for a short period of time supervised. I live on 5 acres in the country and don't let her go onto other people's property. I would prefer to keep her safe from people like those posting on here who say they have a right to kill my cat if it comes onto their property.
Well, I've got news for you. In most U.S. states, it is against the law to kill someone's pet - dog, cat, or whatever - whether they come onto private property or not. If that happens, that is when you call Animal Control. It is their job to deal with that problem, not yours.
I keep both my cats inside unless I'm out with them. Too many things can go wrong. Cars, dogs, evil people, coyotes, eagles... if you love them you take care of them.
you are an idiot, HUMANS are the most invasive and destructive species this planet has ever seen period.
Lost,
if you have lifestock you also have grain? How do you protect the graifrom rodents? Poison?
Actually Smlfry2, where I live if a dog or cat is harassing livestock or game animals it can be legally killed. More times than I care to remember, Game Wardens have shot dogs that were chasing deer because their idiot owners wouldn't keep them controlled.
As for that yutz Skor154, they need to put the crack pipe down.
Horrifying. Wonder if it is connected to the recent publicity about how many birds cats get every year--a bird lover gone rogue? But the nature of the killings is sadistic. awful.
I hope everyone will check the Alley Cat Allies site to read where a lot of this recent hoopla about cats has been debunked. They may still have petitions there to sign to urge the renouncing of this study due to bad science by people already biased against cats, including one person who had been convicted (and fired) because of cruelty to cats.
Molly's daughter:
nah, I doubt that very much. I would imagine whenever he can't find a cat to shoot... he's shooting at birds. He's another gun nut in training, probably inspired by Ted Nugent or any number of murderous monsters... take your pick
My money's on the fact that the cat beat the robot as the new Monopoly piece.
/in all seriousness, though, this guy should be skinned alive
Old Soul, yes.
And Alley Cat Allies is a wonderful organization, doing many good works with a mostly volunteer staff. Anyone reading this article and feeling a more than a little sick or shame for what humans do to our 4-legged friends (both cats and dogs) to visit their site.
Give him more bullets !!! There are way too many stray cats roaming all over the place. Ever get cat prints all over your car, not to mention scratch marks from their claws. People say oh, my cats are inside cats, well guess what, your house smells like a litter box, aka cat crap. If I see a cat in my yard, it better run before my dog gets to it... or me. I don't need a cat killing the birds I feed, my dog won't even lookat them, my dog won't climb all over people's cars either. So you bleeding heart cat lovers, train your cats... lol like that is possible, did you just choke on a hair ball??
ERT69....you sound just as sick as the killer. Shame on you. Obviously you are a very heartless person.
The sicko doing this to these poor cats sounds like another Jeffrey Dahmer. Hope they catch this monster really soon before any other innocent animals are killed or a human being.
Count me as one more vote for Alley Cat Allies being a great organization. Thanks to them I have my beloved best friend of 10 years. As a baby he was their Christmas card kitten!
In my state it is legal to shoot feral cats in the wild because of the damage they do to other wildlife and property. But going to someone's yard and doing that is a bit sick. Pets are great if they are restricted to your house and or yard and should be protected there. Pet owners need to know the dangers if they let them roam.
ERT69, you are...well, I don't know what you are. My cat IS an indoor cat and my house does NOT smell like a litter box. I keep the litter box in a well-ventilated area of my [finished] basement, I clean it each and every day, wash out the entire litter box twice per month and there is NO smell. Everyone who comes to my home is surprised we have a cat.
And, yes, cats CAN be trained. My cat knows not to jump on any tables and knows what rooms it should not enter, even if I leave a door open by mistake. He is 8 years old and a loving companion, very sweet, affectionate, funny. Although he's a short-hair domestic, I brush him, wash him, cut his nails and take good care of him. In return, he provides a lot of love and affection.
And the bird-killing story was overblown and based on faulty science. I like dogs, too, but they slobber and cr__p on the street. So keep YOUR dog off my lawn!
For people who are unable to have a dog because of all the walking and poop breaks needed during the day, a cat is a perfect pet. They will entertain themselves, sleep, soak up the sun and can take care of themselves.
We found him! Does anyone know ERT69 address?
ERT: so call a waaaaaaahhhmbulance
hey ert...I would love to introduce you to my dog, she would love to make you crap your pants and cry for your mommy, then she will go and love her cats, that is when I tell her to release you, then you can wipe yourself get some kleenex and comfort your coward dog.
hey Tshoe, they should open up season on ignorant people in your state, sound like there is a heap of them, how do you now the cat is feral...duh
@nannyrobin... it's not against the law for your dog to use your neighbors cat as a chew toy when the dog is in his own back yard...
ert69 - Oh my, cat paw prints on your windshield? How dreadfully awful and definitely deserving of death. (sarcasm)
Really? You have to go through the agonizing torture of getting out your Windex and paper towel to clean it up. I feel sooooo sorry for you. Seriously, I do.
Relax it's just a guy looking to score a little pussy.
This is one cruel individual; I won't call him/her "sick", because yes, Virginia, some people are just pure EVIL. That type of evil will escalate.
Rumblenut, castration would be a good start. I would add letting the cat owners take sharp metal objects, or any other intentionally non-lethal object, and slooooowly inserting them into this asshat's spine until he/she is rendered paralyzed...oh, and give out occasional kicks in the head as well until this person's cognitive abilities are useless and they are disfigured to the point a person would recoil in horror. Then put them in a rusty wheelchair and set them out somewhere with a sign that says, "I like killing cats".
Good assessment Cathy, and 7.62 above you is a prime example of what you're saying too.
Forget the sign. Carve it into their skin.
Lets stop being PC - we all know that it is some guy doing this and not a woman.
dude...that was f@#$%n great...hahahahaha
This is scary...most serial killers start on small animals...
Good point TJ. When I was growing up there was a kid who would kill cats.He ended up in the Huntsville, TX prison for attempted murder.
This kind of thing is part of the reason my cat is indoor-only. The world is not a safe place for fully domesticated pets (meaning not farm cats, etc.) to be roaming about in. I lost two cats in my childhood to cars, one of my childhood cats was shot with a BB gun (survived), and my neighbor's three cats disappeared the week before Halloween. People, frankly, suck sometimes.
I am absolutely, positively not blaming the owners of these cats for the actions of this "person." They are not at fault for someone else's actions. I just hope these incidents inspires more people to keep their cats indoors!
I totally agree, Sammi. I keep my cat indoors also. I consider my cat a family member, and it is too dangerous outside. Outdoor cats don't live very long - my vet tells me the average age is about 3 years. I have a friend who lost 4 outdoor cats in as many years. The outdoor dangers are cars, dogs, other cats with whom they get into cat fights, other animals, and people who don't like cats. As a child, I had a cat that was let outdoors and it was poisoned by one of my neighbors. At the tender age of 11, I was heartbroken. Ever since then, I've kept my cats inside and they lived long, healthy lives. I too hope that these terrible incidents that have happened recently will make people think twice about letting their cat roam unsupervised outside.
Saw a tv program about 15 years ago about a guy in an Asian country whose job it was to cook cats. He grabbed the cat's head with a pair of tongs and dipped it in boiling oil, [made the skin come off easier] skinned it, then threw it back in the oil, STILL ALIVE, to cook. The amazing thing was how nonchalant he was about it, he had no guilt or shame. He looked around at the cameras with a bewildered look on his face like he could not understand all the interest taken in his mundane job of cooking cats. Is this guy a monster? No, he's just a hard-working man trying to support his family. As someone who grew up in North America, I found it quite shocking, but I've come to realize that my shock was just a reaction based on the peculiarities of our customs. Many people in the world are shocked and disgusted with the way we treat cows.
And barry o ate dogs.
Hey VLGil... uck foo you derelict
Hey leroy!
It is still a living being that FEELS pain just as you and me feel pain. They deserve respect. Asian people have no regard for ANY living being. IT IS TORTURE!
I will NEVER understand why people view animals like that! They are living, breathing animals JUST like we are! They feel pain and torment when that crap happens to them. Humanity makes me Fing sick!!!
@justthefax..do you think of that when you threw your lobster in the pot to be cooked and smother them in butter when you eat them..I think not...
Umm...heavenandearth...you're supposed to kill the lobster quickly first. Didn't you get the memo?
What do you expect from Asian countries. They are the reason that Rhino's are on the verge of extinction.....they think Rhino horns are their "Viagra". Whale hunting until a international ban (limit) was adopted to prevent their extinction. Poaching of elephants so they can carve ivory statutes. Any more that anyone can think of????
Everyone complaining about how these "Asian countries" treat animals obviously has zero clue about how the cows, pigs, chickens, lambs etc are treated in the "farms" (more appropriately called factories) all over this country so that they can eat their McNuggets, meat lovers pizza, and foot-long french dips. It's the lowest of the low, completely disregarding all semblance of respect for a living being.
Or they do have a clue and just don't care because they don't consider those types of animals to be "pets". But let's at least be honest about our hypocrisy, if that's the case!
Bottom line - we a'int any better!
PRober,
You dont like the truth?
Lobsters are boiled while they're still alive. Obama was fed dog when he was younger, in a place where it was legal, and he ate it. So what?
Sharks hoisted out of the ocean, fins cut off, then thrown back into the ocean still alive...
Hunters kill deer, elk, wild turkeys, rabbits, squirrels, etc. Fishermen fish for fish, shrimp and lobsters. When killing an animal for food, it's a good idea to do it quickly and humanely. I have no problem with that and will probably never be a vegan.
I have cooked lobster. Research indicates the lobster has no central nervous system or cerebral cortex to register stimuli, therefore, the lobster most likely can feel no pain. However, killing the lobster just before cooking is the preferred method. If you plunge the lobster in boiling water, headfirst, the muscles will contract making the meat chewier.
The best method is to plunge the tip of a sharp knife straight down right behind the lobster's eyes, then when it's dead, put the lobster in boiling water and cook for the desired time.
Save us the gory details will you? Good Lord, just when I was eating lunch, for real . . .
heaven....
Sorry, I don't eat lobster! I am against ALL torture of ALL living beings.
Last month some sick bastard in West Palm Beach, fla. tied a dog to a fence, poured gas on the animal and burned it alive. Still have'nt caught that POS yet in spite of a $10k reward.
IT should be Offed.
Why cats? Or even other animals? Why something cute and cuddely? Why not go after monsters? I mean, geez, there's plenty of scumbags in NY that seem to breed more pestilence than rat's or cat's? If your gonna go all psycho on a species, go for one that's damaging us, like, soda thieves, or other vermin!
Can you be more specific about the NY scumbags. Who are they? I visit NY many times, I need to know who they look like.
Well my friend, if you can't tell the difference, perhaps it's you? LOL
I Love NYC, can't get enough.
there's no doubt that the human race is the cruelest species on the planet. Unfortunately for us, we're also the only species that deliberately destroys our environment and unabashedly exploits all other species for our pleasure and gratification. A rather disgusting lot we are at times. Greed and gluttony, along with a total lack of empathy, much less compassion will be our ultimate downfall.
Never speak to G-d about Human Beings, It will ruin his day.
Who's G-d? Gay douche? Gullible dummy? Greasy dope?
Well said PRober!
yourmomdidraiseafatfool... and here you are again, with nothing to contribute...as usual. And thank you very much Addy121
Bwahahahahahahaha! Whatever, analPRober. Like any of the drivel you've posted contributes to anything other than political ranting? Get over yourself, loser!
RumbleNutt
jsherant
VLGil
I agree - lets be done with him like the slime he is...
Sick individual.
If and when he/she is found, our courts will pat him/her on the wrist and ask them pretty please with sugar on top to stop being the sadistic cruel low life scumbag they are and send them on their merry way.
Years later he/she will perpetrate an unthinkable crime against people and everyone will say "we never knew, he/she was such a sweet person." Oh and ban (insert whatever inanimate object you wish to blame here.)
Probably a young person, on his way to become a killer. Cruelty against animals usually a sign of a deeply disturbed soul.
Doubt he has a soul. Animals do though.
Perhaps he is training to work in a Big Pharma lab - dogs are being stolen in my neighborhood, the police they are being sold for animal experiments.
I feel horrible for this cat and the cat's human companion - and I'm not a cat person. Unless the label says "No Animal testing" - don't buy it! Be a vegetarian, or care for and kill for your own food - using all the animal and saying thank you to the animal.
This cat killer will graduate to a serial killer - that's not what we call the meat industry....
Feel for this cat, cry for this cat - feel and cry for ANY animal who suffers abuse that includes industrial farming, cosmetic and medical research - there are better ways, especially in medical research, they just aren't as cheap.
demandside,Animals have a soul? Based on what?
Black Kettle & Sand Creek...lest we forget,
We have cured many horrible diseases using animal testing. I hate it too, but if it can cure Polio, whooping cough, small pox, etc, its necessary.
stanboy - what is your argument that animal's don't have a soul?
Does a mother elephant not cry and refuse to leave her dead baby - while the other female's of the herd try to console her? (hint: yes)
Why is it so important for people to "break" a horse? What do they break? The horse's will, it's love of freedom?
Mr. Burns - your argument is absolutely valid for the time those vaccines were made - Polio-1952; small pox - 1796; Whooping Cough - 1906 -
Technology has advanced quite a bit, even from 1952 - it's time to let technology take over and stop using lab animals permanently.... after all a mother dog had no problem with the double isomers in Thalidomide, her puppies were fine, humans are not dogs, the old Thalidomide was not quite a success for humans, now was it?
It is not necessary IF there are other means - and there are other means that are better and are for humans - Big Pharma likes to keep the costs down by using animals - because marketing costs a lot!
What the h3ll. people need to keep their cats at home. I just love in when they crap in flower garden, or do their loud mating screeching in my back yard at 2AM. Please keep your cats in the house! Also please if you have dogs invest a little in your fence and make it escape proof. I have two Huskies and their back yard is fixed to where they can't dig out. They are brought in the house at night. They hardly ever bark but just for the sake of neighbors I make sure they are inside.
Very compassionate aren't you?
I wish people would keep their annoying children inside. All they do is yell, scream, and cry and wake the whole neighborhood up EVERY morning. They are very obnoxious and should ALWAYS be locked inside the home. How about that one for ya?
Sounds fantastic actually! LOL
That was a very evil person who shot the cat and added insult by kicking it. He needs to get put away in a mental institution. His behavior may well escalate to defenseless children next.
He needs to be put down now.
Mental institutions won't do anything--people like him are never cured. He should just be put down, it would do everybody a favor!
it would be awesome if the world weren't filled with broken, selfish stupid a-holes, but unfortunately that's not the case. while the thought of going to jail to "avenge" a pet sounds ridiculous to me, if this happened to my dog and I found out who did it i'm not exactly sure I could stop myself from either pounding that person into a bloody pulp with a tire iron or burning their house down with them in it. people that invest emotionally in other living things, be it people or pets, don't deserve to have those things taken away by some p.o.s. sociopath, never mind the pain and suffering the animal goes through. I will never understand how or why some people get their jollies out of hurting or killing another living being just for the sake of watching it suffer/die, or why we should let that type of person continue to breathe. people like this are typically beyond repair and are just getting started on their journey of violent crime...
Though I somewhat agree with your sentiment, you should probably re-read this part of your comment: " I will never understand how or why some people get their jollies out of hurting or killing another living being just for the sake of watching it suffer/die, or why we should let that type of person continue to breathe. "
why should I reread it? I said what I meant and i meant what I said. i would not be getting my jollies out of destroying an innocent creature. I would merely be evening the score...and ultimately doing the world a favor. there are certain animals that deserve to die and this type of person is definitely one of them
Hey Sebrad- You asked "why some people get their jollies out of hurting or killing another living being?"...Please see my posting from just a littler while ago & that should explain these @!$%#ed up things a bit.
Sick POS needs to be found and done away with. Oh boy, if I could get a hold of him......Our laws NEED to be changed to harder punishments. And people need to be aware of a**holes like that, report them! ANY kind of animal abuse is wrong and evil.
Had to be Boomturd! Our hero, saving us from evil pet dander one cat at a time!
Must be your mommy's' time of the month, scout-zero. Did she lock you in your basement room again, and this is how you express your displeasure with the world? I guess even a compulsive masturbator like you gets bored. Or sore. Or both. So you now pound the keyboard, instead of your pud.
Oh mymom, stop describing yourself.
So noyb, tell us how old you are. I'd say maybe 12. Next you'll be using the "I'm rubber, you're glue......". You and scouty have a lot in common. A lot more than you think. But then, you don't seem to have developed the ability to think and it is doubtful you ever will. So sod off, sonny-boy.
This person or persons need to be beaten and shot and left for dead.Eye for an eye.Who could do this to a pet that has no idea they did something wrong or have a clue whats going on ,but yet still look for love and affection from them.It's really sad most people don't under stand what abuse really is.Teach these people when they are in school about abuse to animals as well as people.Laws won't do anything it will happen over and over again.Moms and Dads need to teach there childeren about abuse and what it really is and it's not the way of life abusing everything you come in contact with.
parents have the first opportunity to identify and deal with these types of kooks, and when they don't they do a disservice to the rest of us. parents--do your job!