Exactly, just like Zimmerman.
Skittles Kill!!

Sir William, Good Night of all Things Liberal and Just (unless facts or truth are involved) tell us kind Sir, what hath the Zimmerman trial to do with women shooters?

They talk like people want to take a way their guns. This shows how programmed even they have become. A Hand gun is the only logical weapon for most self defence situations. An assault rife is for assault. maybe that's why they call it ASSAULT rifle?

Is the twisting of words deliberate? Or do the right wingers REALLY not understand what most of America is saying.

That is the whole problem George you have no clue what an assault rifle is by definition. Assault weapons can only be owned by military or police and very few civilians and they have to go through many different background checks and are subject to additional fees and frequent visitation by ATF to ensure the full auto gun is secure

Stone pipe, the response is to the 1st post to which it is clearly linked.
If you need other patently obvious things explained to you I stand at the ready.

The article should have also mentioned that there is a spike in major crimes committed by women, including with the use of a firearm. Ergo, guns make you do things you wouldn't otherwise do.

Well now i understand what happened to me this morning and it shines a little more light on it.More chicks with guns - more ammo....anyway.... ya see i figured what with the ammo situation getting worse all the time i decided to stock up and well.......

This morning I lucked out and was able to buy several cases of ammo. On the way home I stopped at the gas station and this drop dead gorgeous blond was filling up her car at the next pump.

She looked at the ammo in the back of my car and said in a very sexy voice,

"I'm a big believer in barter, big boy. Would you be interested in a trade of sex for ammo?"

I thought it over for a few seconds and responded......"Well, just what kind of ammo have you got to trade?"

Glad you found the time to reply William. Many things to do today, please show me the patently obvious. Not much time. GM Scooter.

It seems at least some women don't want to depend on Obama to "protect" them. Self reliance, imagine that.

Please...

no snarky comments

just watch this and comment if you are in favor of concealed guns:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QjZY3WiO9s

then this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLN6_s66wTg

R.I.

just watch this and comment if you are in favor of concealed guns:

Yes i am in favor of a CCP.

If you wish to remain unarmed and defenseless and depend on your local P.D. for your needs fine,so be it, that's YOUR CHOICE , but i shall make my own CHOICE thank you very much. I do not need you nor ANYBODY else making that decision for me.

Is that clear? or am i merely being "snarky"?

No time to watch or care to watch. Had a ccp once just to please the missus and the instructor at that time made a point of saying it could be a liability having one. I carry when I damn well please.

RI Mom saw that on TV. It was one of the wort examples I've ever seen. No way would I ever carry a gun in that manner. Under a Tee shirt. You would print (the gun would be outlined) like mad. Playing on X-box is a far cry from going to the range and practicing your draw.

Completely biased. Just the fact that criminals know you MAY be armed is a deterrent in itself. I've been through live fire simulations and had no such trouble because I spend time at the range and am used to gun fire.

If you have an agenda to push there is always a way to do it. The vast majority of the time guns are used to thwart crime they aren't even drawn, just a reveal of the holstered weapon is usually enough to change the situation.

Once Oboma & and the radical liberal nut jobs Fienstien & Cuomo get done destroyong the second Amendment to the United States Constitution we will all be at the mercy of criminal, terrorists and madmen

RI MOM:

Cops have shot each other and innocent bystanders when confronting the bad guys. Should they be disarmed too? By your standards apparently so.

It seems to me the whole scenario was absurd because the participants have a better chance of getting struck by lightning than experiencing such an attack. A better test would be to have one of the female students attacked by a faux rapist, a scenario that plays out every day in the real world. My guess is the bad guy loses, unless she thinks like you.

Hello all. Stonepipe2, good to see you. Scooter, I still love your avatar.

I must say, I still find it amazing that if a woman chooses not to own a firearm, she is somehow thought of as being defenseless or even "weak" by some standard. I do not wish to have a firearm. However, I am perfectly capable of using my body to defend myself. That's what training is for and I even enjoy sparing (although I need to get back on the mat again). I've taken big guys down at 80% force or less. Yes, I'm quite the date. ;)

So, how about we try this. I'm just itching to find another sparing partner. You guys leave your gun in the locker or wherever you wish, and let's see who ends up on top? Any takers?

Stonepipe2 - I told my daughter you expressed your condolences concerning her father's death. She said thank you. This year was a milestone - the grief is finally gone. :)

Hey Robin,

I am sorry I missed this post. Is it too late to sign up? I am Combat Hapkido trained but really rusty, so, you might have to go easy. I am a fragile specimen.

Robin's Serendipity 1......

Not every one should own or needs a fire arm. How ever, some people, both men and women either are not able physically or not trained to fight hand to hand. And the thing is even the best trained can be beaten. I was very well trained years ago. Age and injury have limited my abilities. And when confronted with 3 or 4 attackers, even the best trained may lose. A gun just evens up the odds.

Hooops - you gave me a smile. I do like to spar and to be honest, I'm a little rusty myself right now and I'm not happy with that. My training came from a friend who was in special forces and built like a darn tank. He put me through the paces and slammed me to the mat more times than not - until I got better (stubborn Irish streak). But I learned to toughen up and add my "own style" to self defense. Men don't expect someone my size to be a threat - that is to my advantage. And if you can bench press 300+ pounds, you're anything but fragile. ;)

Old dog in al - I can understand why some wish to carry a weapon. I'm must say, I'm torn on the whole thing. But for me, I'm quite comfortable with my choice. I'm frankly tired of the whole debate at this point. So much said on both sides when we're all human beings who live, love, laugh, and cry. It's easy to forget that sometimes. Have a great day, sir.

Hey Robin,

I too was trained by an ex-SF guy (SEALs). Crazy little guy but it hurt just brushing up against him. That 325 still goes up, it just doesn't leap up the way it used to....! And I always expect women to be a threat which is why I am always so respectful!!

Hi Hooops,

I was ready to turn in and decided to do one last check on the vine and my emails. I'm not that threatening - unless I'm wearing my four inch high heels - and then those become potential weapons. Seriously, at just under 5'3", I need all the height I can get. I believe respect should always work both ways, just because it's nice. :)

Actually, I was just a kiddin about being threatened ;-) Except maybe by those shoes!!!!!!

I am respectful because I was raised to behave that way. Respect and manners seem to be a lost art these days!

We didn't end up getting much snow here in Cheesehead Land. I hope you aren't having to shovel out! Have a good one.

And to the love of my life: if you swing by and read this, just know you'll always be my number one partner where it counts. The only problem sparing with you? You're a major distraction, love. You end up on top every time (well, maybe not every time). ;)

Hooops - the shoes are even a weapon to my feet after a couple of hours! The price I pay . . .

Respect and manners are important and just as fashion recycles, I think it's making a comeback as well. It's something my daughter is often complimented on - naturally, I beam! Anyway, it's nice to chat with someone who is so charming.

RI Mom,

That ABC demonstration was set up from the beginning. No one other than a thug or a "banger" carries a gun in that manner. The students who were armed had absolutely no training in firearms, they were just given a paintball gun to tuck in their pants. Also the cop (bad guy) knew beforehand who had the paintball gun. He knew who to target. This was admitted by ABC when they got blow back for their show.

its not just women who "defy the stereotype" but that little FACT wouldn't look good on the agenda.

I just like the poster I saw the other day, "In other news, 82,617,249 firearm owners continued to be law abiding citizens."

FBI statistics show conceal carry citizens are the most law abiding demographic there is.

There are many law abiding citizens, regardless of gun ownership or not.

.. and when the cops finally get there YOU maybe the only one left at the crime scene to arrest.

Better 12 upright, than 6 horizontal.

Warren, I'd rather be arrested, then cleared of any wrongdoing, than be dead. What an idiotic argument.

NOBODY wants to end or take away gun ownership.

rifles make lousy "self defence weapons, especially in tight quarters. unless your out doors and the bad guys send you an E-mail, telling you that they are on their way.

If you don't hit the bad guy with the first two rounds, you are probably dead.

So please tell me how the debate on ASSAULT rifles, turns into an article and video that makes it seem like people want to ban HAND GUNS?

Do you REALLY not understand the difference between hand guns and Assault rifles?

If a person broke into my house , a medium caliber hand gun would be my choice. Not a rifle that restricts my movement in the hallway or stair case in my house.

Stop with this BS no one wants to take our guns.

Senator Dianne Feinstein:
"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an
outright ban, picking up every one of them . . . Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em
all in, I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren't here."

Let's see, somehow the Army and Marines mange to clear entire houses with a real M4 assault rifle. So you believe an AR of the same length is now not capable? Yes you might loose a little in movement but who said I'm going roaming around. I might be more inclined to turn over my bed and set up behind it while I wait for the cavalry.

Biggie, she was talking about a specific weapon, NOT ALL GUNS. And yes, there is a very small number of people who would like to ban all guns. probably way less then one percent. The point is some people want to judge "all" liberals and "all" conservatives on what a few fringe fools on either side are saying. just stop it.

george

So please tell me how the debate on ASSAULT rifles, turns into an article and video that makes it seem like people want to ban HAND GUNS?

Do you REALLY not understand the difference between hand guns and Assault rifles?

How about the simple FACT there is no such thing as an assault rifle? A RIFLE is an inanimate object. an ASSAULT is an action acted upon.

And do you really believe it ends with just one ban? If so i may suggest that YOU are the one who doesn't understand. What do you believe happens when they figure out the FACT that handguns kill more people then rifles?

rifles make lousy "self defence weapons, especially in tight quarters. unless your out doors and the bad guys send you an E-mail, telling you that they are on their way.

Do you believe Shotguns make a lousy self defense weapon? Especially a pump action one? How many self defense uses of a firearm occur in a hallway at melee range or in a staircase at melee range? Rifles and Shotguns make excellent self defense firearms. The only advantage a handgun has is that compact size and that only occurs at melee range, which almost never happens in the use of a firearm in a house. If you think a "standard" rifle is to big than just get a carbine version of it.

Also the AWB that you support also applies to shotguns and handguns. It doesn't only apply to rifles.

Also an Assault Rifle as defined by the US military is a machine gun. Semi-automatic only rifles such as an AR-15 are not an Assault Rifle.

@george pauljohn: I don't think you know what you're talking about. A rifle is a fine defensive weapon.

George your statement:

NOBODY wants to end or take away gun ownership.

You are wrong, their are quite a few. It is not some fringe.

First they came for the Jews

and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the communists

and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists

and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me -

and by then there was no one left to speak out for me.

The German anti-Nazi activist,

Pastor Martin Niemöller

Change Jew to "assault rifle".

Change communists to sniper rifle

Change unionist to hunter.

Get the Idea now.

So Joe admits this is all not going to stop shootings, why? Well first this type of shooting is rare. You have a better chance of hitting the lottery and getting hit by lightning then this type of shooting. Rifles in general account for so little deaths and crime.

Take out your other rifles, your left with an even small group of "assault rifles". They lose out to clubbed, stabbed and beaten by hands and feet. So when the next kids get killed since we can't guard them it will more than likely be with a Glock.

Senator Dianne Feinstein will rush up to ban Glocks before the last case bounce of the ground.

@#4.4 George pauljohn - Actually I keep an AR carbine for home defense, it's short 16" barrel and frangible rounds, so no over penetration, is perfect for in home protection. I also have a Glock 23 as backup but my first go to choice is the AR.

Nora: I like softpoints, myself, as they aren't likely to "plug up" like hollow point rounds if they hit dry wall. I have an AK, 16.25" barrel, red dot, forward vertical grip, and a laser/light combo I can attach on the forward quad rail. Most times people talk out their ass, and don't know that a "tactical" rifle is probably the finest defensive weapon a person can have -- it certainly helped all those Korean store owners during the riots in LA in the 1990's.

An old sargent once told me that a pistol was to be used to get you to your real weapon. Your rifle.

The prevailing statistics show that those who worship and own guns are people who have less education and are of a lower socioeconomic background. That includes women, as well.

Well, Jean I guess you are up for the "Dumbest @!$%#" award at this years Academy Awards this year. I worship and thank the Heavenly Father, Great spirit, what have you. If this post gets deleted so should Jean's.

Jean: Citation needed. My community has very high gun ownership rates. We also have the highest per capita density of millionaires (11%), and probably are one of the best educated communities in the country. If you don't believe me, google "Los Alamos County, New Mexico."

Jean....please post the source of your "prevailing statistics".

I'll tell you who has less education and are of a lower socioeconomic backgrounds...gang members and career criminals. They use their guns for crime and are not lawful gun owners. Lawful gun owners are average citizens of every background, their intelligence, education, and socioeconomic backgrounds are equal to the national average.

@Jean valjean #5.1 - I'd like to see your sources on that piece of clap trap. Both myself and my daughter are CCW permit holders and I am a HS grad and tech school grad, while my daughter was in the Beta Club and National Honor Society in HS and has an Associates of Applied Science degree now. She recently went back to college at night to get her Nursing degree while working full time and made both the Dean's list and President's list for a 4.0 GPA last semester. She and her family live a few hours from me now but when they come home for visits she and her hubby will bring a few guns with them and we go to the local range and target practice for a few hours.

How would one go about worshiping a gun? Do the gun worshipers have a church? What do they call their ministers? Or are you just talking crap?

Yes, and Dexter.... never mind the blood trail. Another well thought out and may I add brilliant post.

"I didn't just wash the deck, I POWER-WASHED the deck"

I wonder what color the sky is in Warren World?

Shhhhh our dear leader is not trying to regulate hand guns, pass it on. And as for NBC, maybe they are just being fair and balanced. Or maybe they are doing the right wings job by trying to confuse assault weapons and hand guns as the NRA (not really American) wants them too. Liberal media my @$$

Actually george they are trying to regulate hand guns, if you read the AWB it also applies to hand guns as well.

George

Liberal media my @$$

So what are you saying exactly?

1.They ARE your ....""A"..?

2. You are THEIR....."A"....?

3.They LOOK like your.. "A"..?

4.They ACT like your... "A"..?

5.They are an extension of your.. "A"..?

6. You like them UP your .."A"..?

Or ....( most likely )

7.They produce the same thing as your .."A"..?

( I'm just guessing here but I believe you would go with a combination of 2,6&7 here ...correct? )

Liberals who say that are insecure because they have even smaller penises being paranoid of owning guns.

So how does it feel to know that you are an example of how well brain washing works? This liberal has more then a few fire arms. none of them are ASSAULT WEAPONS , all of them legal.

And tad, people who insult others, liberal or conservative, are just bad people.

I have no problem with people disagreeing with me about assault weapons, I do have a problem with people who either don't understand the difference between assault weapons and other weapons, or simply use this situation to create a deeper divide.. Logic has such a liberal bias.

I don't have a problem with anybody having an INFORMED opinion. What I can't stand is being lumped into a category-as bigoted as racism just for owning a firearm that offends someones self righteous personal beliefs. The Sandy Hook shooting and the theater shooting hurt me as much as any anti-gun person here. I could give ten examples of "weapons" I could buy at a hardware store for less than $30 that would cause as much heartbreak but the freaks don't need my help. The cat's out of the bag, a gun ban is just feel good legislation, sorry.

George since you are such an authority you would know that a true assault rifles are a class three weapon. That is covered under the 1934 firearms act. This is not what they are looking to ban.

So why start with the so called ban of what non gun people call an "assault rifle." It works like any other semi-auto rifle out there. Most of these rifles shoot intermediate cartridges, that we would consider under powered to hunt deer with. A Remington 750 in .308 or 30-06 is like a Lamborghini Vs. a Dodge neon.

Oh wait, but what about those evil features.

Yes there is that awfully nasty bayonet lug, though I'm not sure when the last person was bayoneted. I know only one shooter with a bayonet and it's in his foot locker in his basement with the rest of his military stuff for National Guard duty. Guess if I had to I could duct tape a blade to barrel but I don't see it coming to that.

Adjustable stock are extremely evil. They allow different size shooters to fit comfortably behind the gun quickly. I can see why the army likes them- not all shooters are the same size and stature. Sort of like my buddy and his wife. But I don't see the aid in lethality for this type stock but actually a decrease. It is more than likely to break if I butt-stroked someone like I was taught in boot camp, over the solid design we used.

Flash suppressor must just be the ultimate ninja voodoo. Able to shoot a gun with no flash, must be great, now if only that is what they did. Go to any range and watch, that is not what they do. You still see flashes but the shooter has them redirect out of his line of site. They help with muzzle climb a little and if your shooting prone they direct gas away from ground to keep dirt out of gun.

Then of course the pistol grip. A truly bad item. Though I must say I'm not even sure why. Which way the cant is on my hand changes nothing.

Last is that terrible barrel shroud. I mean what were they think putting that on there. Let's leave one of the most important and easiest to break pieces exposed so that if you drop it and the gas tube get damaged your back to duct taping a blade on the barrel if you don't have a solid stock you can butt-stroke with. Then there is the purpose it keeps the operator from say burning his hands by touching the barrel.

But when we had the last ban manufactures took off a couple features and wham, a compliant gun.

You didn't get rid of the ones out there.

But you all felt so good because you had a ban. That it didn't do anything in the real world didn't matter to you.

If that woman in Connecticut (whose son decided to take out 20 little first graders) hadn't been such a gun-loving freak, then he might have had a harder time getting his hands on such weaponry.

Biggie, the one thing i will agree with you on, is that these controls will do very little to keep you and me safe, but the limits of the Brady bill did make being a cop a tiny bit safer. But please continue to make obscure arguments, i'm sure the next guy who wants to commit mass murder will be grateful for all your help.

The real issue is a mental health and environmental issue. But none of the politicians, left or right, would dare to take a stand on that one. Funny how canada has more guns per capita and a lower murder rate, per capita. hmmm must be that socialized medicine lol.

Biggie, the one thing i will agree with you on, is that these controls will do very little to keep you and me safe

Concur

Sorry George, just like they do very little to keep us safer, it changes nothing for cops either. You could still buy AR's without a couple features which in no way changed there basic operation. Not to mentioned the ones already owned.

Not entirely sure what the obscure arguments was. The fact that a few cosmetic features changed nothing. That a Remington 750 in .308 or 30-06 makes the .223 caliber that the AR shoots look anemic.

Biggie's arguments are only "obscure" to liberals (especially those pushing for more useless gun restrictions), most of whom know absolutely nothing about guns. For the those of us better informed on the issue, his arguments aren't obscure at all. Even Joe Biden has admitted that none of the proposed new laws, including the "assault weapons" ban would do anything to prevent the next Newtown. It's liberal feel-good legislation, nothing more.

"Ban semi-automatic weapons and high capacity magazines"?

Do you want to ban those for the cops as well? If not then why do the cops need them and civilians not need them?

Cops need them in situations where they are facing people with assault weapons. Nobody is trying to ban "semi-automatic weapons of any size. Semi automatic refers to weapons that dont have a bolt or lever action needed to fire the next round. Or pump action.

paul. in my area, driving drunk is a serious offence. you go to jail for it. And if somebody dies in a drunk accident you can get anywhere from a few decades to life in prison.

George once again true assault rifles are class three weapons and are controlled by the gun control act of 1934. Semi-automatic means you shoot one round for every time the trigger is pulled. Yes, that is what they are trying to ban. An AR may look like a military rifle but it does not have that full auto switch they do. That is one of the best media jobs ever done. They like to show a full auto gun going of in the back ground while talking about banning semi-automatic rifles. Confuses people that don't shoot or that don't shoot these types of guns into believing that they are one in the same.

Cops need them in situations where they are facing people with assault weapons

If you banned the AR's how are cops facing them. Oh I guess you realize that criminals don't follow bans. Then again cops don't shoot very well either, which can be a good thing if your the lady and her mother delivering papers in LA.

To the person who wrote what does alcohol have to do with guns, below is a response that proves the point that drunk driving laws don't stop drunks from driving. More gun laws will not stop killers bent on killing from killing. Enforce the laws we have, work on mental health system and final if any new laws are made, make them stiffer criminal laws. Laws that will not allow criminals early release, or murders to ever get out of prision.

paul. in my area, driving drunk is a serious offence. you go to jail for it. And if somebody dies in a drunk accident you can get anywhere from a few decades to life in prison.

Cops need "assault weapons" and high-capacity magazines in situations where they are facing people with "assault weapons" and high-capacity magazines? WTF. You mean after you ban "assault rifles" there will still be criminals out there who possess them? Hmm. Well, if so, then the question still is Why would cops need them if "civilians" don't? Wouldn't ordinary citizens also need "assault rifles" and high-capacity magazines in situations where they are facing criminals who posses them?

these are the stories that rarely make it into the news - they do not support the agenda of the far left. Self defense is an unquestioned right, thumbs up to your mother.

Michelle, your moms choice of weapon is a good one. and as a liberal I would never try to take it away from her.

Voter56. the "FAR LEFT" is a much smaller group then fox news and the NRA would like you to believe.

Nobody has EVER said to ban all guns. We own a rifle and don't feel the need to stock the house with all manner of weaponry. For every story about defending yourself with a gun, there's a story about some idiot who owns guns and leaves them in plain sight for kids to get to. In our area, we just recently had a little boy who pulled a loaded handgun out from under a sofa and shot himself in the head. I think stiffer penalties for mishandling guns, registering every gun, and banning assault weapons and multiple clips is sensible and doesn't step on anyone's 2nd Amendment rights.

@crafter315 It is not fair to make laws one size fits all. People that live in the country and are farmers have a real need for livestock protecion. Banning or eliminating certain guns and ammo would directly affect them. Certain people in a stressful situation might need more than 10 rounds if there are multiple perps. People in a gun range shooting might be a sharp shooter, but not everyone under pressure reacts the same.

I have a similar story. When I was two, my mom was dropping some stuff off at my aunt's. She left me in the car because I was asleep.(this was well before it was illegal to do so.) She came back and found some guy removing me from the car. My mom pulled her gun on him and ordered him to put me down. He complied. My mom was 7-8 months pregnant with my brother at the time, so there was no way she was going to be able to run that guy down. She had just barely obtained her CCW too.

Al - I agree !! We always have a smaller gun available at all times at home if my wife needs it -

I have a larger one near me at all times at home and when I am out of the house -

Repeat-There is nothing like a Good Ol" Dog in my mind. Have a great day.

Al-Wash? are you saying you would fire your weapon on American troops? Really? Al qaeda can use a few more guys like you.

I hear due to our present commander and chief, there are some vacancies at the top end of Al qaeda..

Good OL' Anything larger then a 9mm for in house protection, is too big. Funny thing about high caliber weapons, the bullets don't always go where you want them. Miss your target in a city or suburb and the kid next door may not wake up in the morning.

Use common sense. Not like the guy who gave his 9 year old an uzi to shoot at the gun range. the gun flew back and the kid got one in the head and died.

My liberal grand pa used to say. Always use the right tool , for the right job."

Self protection, 9mm or smaller. take over the town or rob a bank, use an assault rifle. simple logic.

george....what are you, the freakin government to say what size weapon to own?? You libs crack me up...It's not your or the governments business. Besides, your President took an oath to up hold the Constitution.

I honestly do not think they could get US troops to do the confiscating but would opt to bring in UN troops who would be more than happy to disarm America, History has shown Governments will do it in a heartbeat, have you hugged a Jewish Refugee lately

Vlgil. the constitution does not say anything about assault rifles.

public safety IS THE BUSINESS OF THE GOV.

If people used a little tiny bit of common sense, there would be no debate. It's all bogus. We had an assault weapon ban for years, (see Brady Bill). till bush let it expire. In that time, nobody lost any freedom, the UN didnt come in and take our guns. you are a fear monger listening to fear mongers.

Yeah nice bright ER doctor with no idea about guns goes to machine gun shoot. Says yes his kids shot before. Lets a 15year old go off with kid to shoot while he gets out recorder. Stupid is...

You can leave picking caliber of handgun to person shooting. Closest house to me over mile and a half through woods.

Tough to carry around an assault rifle concealed for your bank job. Simple logic.

In United States v. Miller, The court held the Second Amendment protects only the ownership of military-type weapons appropriate for use in an organized militia.

public safety IS THE BUSINESS OF THE GOV.

Wrong again goerge the Govt was set up for the defense of the nation and its people, NOT to rule its people. What part of " THEY are suppose to be there to represent US", do you not understand?

If someone happens to live in bear country and all he's got is a 9mm with a ten-round magazine, I'd put my money on the bear. The same logic applies to someone living in a gang-infested neighborhood. Just because a 9mm works fine for your personal needs, it doesn't follow that a 9mm is all anybody else would ever need for their own situation.

There you go George interpeting the Constitution to fit your needs just like your Anti-Constitutionalist in Chief.

Dow...There is absolutely no doubt that NBC MSNBC are liberal biased,and will deliberately twist and spin the facts,to fit their agenda...and what they can't spin or edit they will blackout...For the most part NBC is the mouth piece and propaganda machine for the white house.

That was an AR-15 in purple. My ex would have loved it too (her favorite color).

Respectfully disagree. Kids toys are mostly colored, thus dangerous to LEO's. And kids. And me.

Great point stonepipe. Making guns look like toys is dangerous, it's gotten to the point that kids can even play with toy guns anymore.

Ariel, you can get your guns 'durocoated' in any color of the rainbow now. I recently saw a neon pink AR that looked really nice... if you like pink. lol

Ban semi-automatic weapons now.

Great comment, so true, if most could see the truth and not just jump on the ban wagon we wouldn't be having these conversations.

I'm surprised that it was even included since it IS pro gun.

Bama, why do you judge half the nation on what a few butt wipes are saying.???? that's the point. you allow your opinions to be formed by a fringe that is really sooooo small.

let me state again. I am a liberal, and I don't want to take away guns, I just think people should use common sense. When I say "nobody" i'm talking about the major majority of normal people. Not some idiot politician who is just trying to seem important.

“Small arms identification and operations guide.

By Harold Johnson

1970 US Army.

Assault rifle. Assault rifles are short compact select fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power
between a sub-machine gun and a rifle. “

It goes on to tell more. The term "assault rifle" is a term developed by the US Army in 1970 and those rifles were “select fire” meaning they could fire full auto or not depending on the selection of the shooter.

The term “assault weapon” was a term coined to describe the weapons that the 1994 Clinton ban would effect.

Doughboy. First, thousands of kids die from guns. most of the time because of stupid owners of guns, like the guy i mentioned above who let his kid shoot an uzi at the gun range. So your lead statement is false.

Here's what right wingers try very hard to NOT understand. NOBODY likes abortion, no matter what Ann Coulter says. Ask ten republicans and ten democrats these two questions:

Do you think abortion is sad? and do you think abortion is ugly? EVERY person I have asked these question of, answered the same, left or right, YES and YES were the answers.

So what's the real difference here? the difference is the right wing would gladly put my sister in jail for it, and I would NOT put YOUR sister in jail for it. Republicans want to punish and control. liberals do not. So much for freedom loving republicans lol.

oh, did you know the largest demographic of women having abortions is white women in college? Bet you didn't.

The guy who let his kid fire the uzi at a gun range wasn't a gun owner, he was non owner that rented the gun and also knew nothing of guns and refused to follow the advice of the gun range staff when they told him they strongly advise against the kid from shooting the uzi.

VLGil. LOL half the left IS women. lmao@u

And a lot of THOSE women are buying guns george pauljohn. I'm a Dem, liberal on most things other than gun control, and was given my first gun at 8 by my father so I could go hunting with him. Guns a great equalizer for women against a large attacker. My favorite home defense guns now are the AR carbine with frangible round and a Glock 23 as a backup.

My daughter keeps a doberman inside that can either drive off an intruder or at least slow them down while she gets to her guns.