It's good that they can get her some mental help which she obviously needs. She was just talking, but normal and sane people don't act this way. And who knows, maybe she would have just ended up grabbing a knife and killing someone in a mall or something...the point is that she is disturbed and needs help.

Good work NBC. You and your buddies beat Newtown to death and you got what you wanted -- a copy cat and more to write about. OH. I especially liked your links back to Newtown. Keep going. Soon every nut who wants to commit suicide will get the idea as to how to "go out "with "a bang" and be remembered for years.

Federal agents searched Bowden's home in East Haven after her arrest and did not find any firearms or explosives, according to authorities.

WHEN are they going to address Mental Health issues?????????????

@Gil While I do not disagree with your point, I do hope that the "crazy" people keep posting their homicidal thoughts. You can't stop or avert a tragedy if you do not have a warning of it before it happens. I am against having the government spy on everyone, but if ones own friends see that you are going off the deep-end, then friends and family should contact the proper authorities in order to diffuse the situation.

Where does it say that she is mentally ill and in need of mental help?

People don't need to be crazy or mentally ill to do acts like that. They just have to WANT to.

Look at the suicide bombers overseas. Are they crazy? No. They are doing what they believe based on their beliefs. Now you may not believe as they do, but that doesn't make them crazy.

Some people are just WANT to kill.

She obviously was reaching out for help or she would've kept it to herself and carried out her BS.

Some people will do anything for attention. Even if it's bad attention...

She obviously was reaching out for help or she would've kept it to herself and carried out her BS.

Creek Dog - I would agree that she was 90% talk, and I would add that she likely has some severe mental and emotional issues.

But you can never assume that somebody uttering such threats is all talk and does not present a danger.

Ashley - That's a violent crime rate of about .002 for the three years. Which would be .00066 violent crime rate each year. Sounds pretty safe to me. What's the violent crime rate in America? More importantly, what's your point?

I don't believe she was reaching for anything. She WANTED to kill, and wanted the headlines that the the shooter in CT gone.

Plain and simple.

We may consider her actions crazy. By our own actions and beliefs that's typical. But US thinking she is crazy does not make her mentally ill.

Personally I think she's as sane as anyone else. She just wants to kill.

It is obivous now that the motivation for these attacks are "copy cats" reading this never ending crap in the media, and NOT THE OWNERSHIP OF GUNS.

Maybe we need some sort of media control! If we can regulate gun ownership despite Admendment #2, then we can regulate the media despite #1.

More harm than good comes from the media, or, more misinformation comes from the media than information.

Just sayin:>)

Blame parenting.

Parents are turning their kids into mentally deficient d-bags nowadays, so don't be surprised when more of these freakshows start surfacing.

Good luck all.

Janine-1645002: Where does it say that she is mentally ill and in need of mental help? People don't need to be crazy or mentally ill to do acts like that. They just have to WANT to. Look at the suicide bombers overseas. Are they crazy? No. They are doing what they believe based on their beliefs. Now you may not believe as they do, but that doesn't make them crazy. Some people are just WANT to kill.

I take it you're not at all familiar with mental illness. As for the workings of religious zealots who use the uneducated and poor to do their handy work overseas, or simply those who've lost everything they ever had, including family, and see no more reason to live than for revenge, you clearly don't know s**t from sugar.

No one gets up in the morning with the idea of "Hey, let's go out and shoot up the neighborhood," without something first going terribly wrong upstairs, oftentimes a chemical imbalance in the brain. The same goes for people who commit suicide. No one in their right mind thinks of doing so... in their wrong mind, yes... and when you meet someone of that mindset, get that person help, immediately.

Someone stupid/wacko enough to plan one of these shootings out, also is wacko enough to take the time to find guns on the black market, an/or manufacture homemade bombs. Gun regulation isn't the answer.

www.srristories.com hands down every one of these nuts is on some sort of psychotropic meds. SRRIstories lists page, after page of nutty murders, all folks on anti-depressants. Every one.

Blame parenting.

Or the lack of it. Kids today watch hours of violence everyday that has to affect them even though no one admits it. Funny how people think watching violence with beatings and murder is OK but watching sex or even being educated about sex is damaging to the kids.

Creek Dog

Some people will do anything for attention. Even if it's bad attention...

gm Creek Dog

Sad, but true. And also nothing new.

"The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." ---Oscar Wilde

"There is no such thing as bad publicity." ---P.T. Barnum

CEW, does it say she's uneducated, or a regilious fanatic? I don't read that anywhere. You're putting in your own assumptions to the reasons for her actions w/o any basis in fact.

I'm sure she's been planning this for a long time. That tells me she's been thinking about it carefully, deliberately. That takes Intelligence and comprehension.

People don't like to accept the fact that there are people out there who simply like the media attention this sort of action inspires. Does that make her crazy or mentally ill?

Actors/actresses like the media attention for THEIR Performances? Are they crazy? Well,,maybe they are not a good example.

The OWS caught the media attention for all their antics the past couple of years. While some of them certainly got out of hand with their actions, does the fact that Most were in it FOR the attention make them Crazy or mentally ill.

While I may not agree with much of what the Community Organizer does, does that mean I think he's crazy or mentally ill? No, sadly, I'm afraid he's quite sane.

Just as I have seen or read nothing that makes me think this woman is mentally ill. Now things may change. The info is sketchy, but right now? She's perfectly sane.

What have they put in our food or water supply to create this insanity?

What do you expect from the east coast?

If people are so hell bent on death, then make suicides legal and harvest the body parts for donors. It's a win, win situation. Less crazy people, better healthcare for the rest of us. I don't care if you want to die, just don't take me out with you.

Ashley, are you trying to make some kind of point?

If it has to do with crime and guns, quit trying to act like the liberal media, but instead tell the entire story. Kennesaw is in Cobb County which has a population of 660,000 and is a surburb and part of metropolitan Atlanta. It is not, as you would imply, a little old town setting out by itself with all this crime.

When you look at the crime rate in Atlanta and logically extend that to its metropolitan complex, your attempt to indict and misguide falls on deaf ears. Maybe you could get a job with MSNBC.

Hyjack, well done! Also the issue that was voted on and passed by the community requiring residents to have a firearm in their home is not even enforced! It even has a clause that states anyone that is uncomfortable owning a firearm is not bound by the law. I believe the whole thing was a political statement to high crime rates in and near ATLANTA and not in their community.

Here comes another one of my favorites "blame the parents"; fantastic. At some point, the "children" become of age and they are on their own. Some kids who have great parents act out to this extent and beyond, while there's kids who have craptastic parents who go on to get a college/advanced degree and are contributing members of society. So, find something/someone else to blame.

Ashley - this isn't the Wild West any more; no Wyatt Earps cruising the town. Get a grip.

Gil - you are seriously confused. You may not be a total dolt - but your over-indulgence in ideology has clouded any sort or rationality from your brain (as evidenced by your paranoid post.

Janine. I'm not sure where you get your facts. It doesn't matter if she was uneducated or a religious fanatic, or not. Anyone who wants to kill, as you say, does have something mentally wrong with them. No matter how mad a "sane" or "normal" person will get, even to the point of wishing someone dead (as kids do), they realize that it's not right and would never do anything. Because they are sane and rational. If you truly want to kill someone, there is something mentally wrong. Crazy? Maybe not, that's just an expression, so to speak. But mental issues? Absolutely. For whatever reason, that person cannot reason clearly. That is a mental problem. Take the kid just recently who killed his mother and sister, just because he wanted to see what it felt like. He saw a killing on TV that "got him to thinking" as he says, that he would like to try it. He says, now that he's done, he has no desire to do it again. However, he has had problems for a long time. There was definitely something wrong with him. No sane, rational person, just wants to kill.

These crazy people are looking for their 15 minutes of fame.....Don't give it to them, don't put them on TV....just say a deranged woman made threats and say her identity isn't important, but the people saved are.

Whats the problem? Is it because she isnt the government? Or is she a fall"gal". It seems more recently, our government has been on this agenda to get public support for this gun ban...so (all of a sudden) there are shootings everywhere! Aurora and Newtown has government stink all over it! While many people are still in denial about our government commiting false flag attacks, yes!!! Even on our own soil, on our own citizens! Oh...yes I am a conspiracy "theorist"...or more accurately, a conspiracy realist! The fact is, that this has been happening and there is an agenda and unfortunately people are still sleeping. I dont know if this girl is serious, looking for attention, or if in fact she is a pawn being used! Regardless, there is something more deep going on...and people need to pay attention to it.

Zero accountability. That's whats wrong with people today. Their whole life is a lie...

• You aren't a slacker. (Its a learning disability.)
• Doesn't matter if you loose. (Everyone gets an award.)
• Bullies are bad, they hurt peoples feelings, and peoples feelings should never be hurt. (Pussies)
• I better not spank junior. (I don't want him put into a foster home.)

When these people are thrown into the world with the rest of us, they blame their crappy life not on themselves but the people around them. That's why these idiots don't do the more honorable thing and just commit suicide, they feel its society's fault and they take out as much of society as they can on the way out.

Spank your kids if they need a spanking. Teach respect towards others and some damn accountability and this crap will stop.

Ashley is whacked man. Not to mention, defenseless against "true" gun nuts.

Stereotyping seems to be very ordinary & typical for anti-gun/NRA "Nuts"....

I sleep very well at night...

It's interesting how slippery we are willing to make the slope as to what kinds of reasonable actions and thoughts make one mentally ill or not.

Many seem to conclude that you dont have to be mentally ill to do what she did, you just have to want to kill.

I seem to think it's a sign of mental illness if you have the WANT to kill.

But, maybe thats what makes me the crazy one in this world.

My "animal instincts" must be less refined than most people commenting on this thread.

Then again, im also the person unwilling to have a gun in my house in order to kill "home invaders" hellbent on raping me and stealing my things...because I have no WANT to kill them. Granted, I dont WANT to be killed either.

Just like I dont want to die in a car accident...but as the song goes ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.

I have not, as of yet, mounted a machine gun to the hood of my jeep in order to "mow down" anyone who threatens to hit my car and cause my death, as a result of their greed and indifference while operating a vehicle.

claimed that she had constructed at least two napalm-based bombs

I love the smell of napalm in the morning it smells like.................community college.

DEAR editor:

Instead of posting this story again in a few days please post how the public can report people who they think might do something like this....

for instance, my friend has a roommate that watches murders and crime on tv all day long and then when someone walks by he says at complete random "its not what you do its what they can prove"...he also mentioned that he would put up a fire fight before handing over his high capacity magazines (i don't know if he has access to weapons)...

do you see where i am going with this...no where can I report this except to the local police who have already been to his house because his former employer suspected him of doing something horrible...but he obviously is free AND searches Craigslist for weapons because in AZ its perfectly ok to sell your weapons on the internet, from what he claims....he appears mentally disturbed...

HOW DO WE REPORT THESE PEOPLE?????? Don't you think the public deserves a outlet for this type of problem? And if there already is one, why don't we see links to it everywhere? Not one link to prevent crime, but hey if you want a face lift click here...how dumb can we be.

At what point does a sucky notion become a plot?

I simply can't agree with many of you. I don't consider this a mental health issue.

She planned what she WANTED to do. Period. And she should held accountable for that.

We need to stop blaming the parents, or lack of mental health care, or whatever for what people do.

While perhaps some could be Mental Health issues, I think most of them are completely sane and responsible for their actions.

Jessica:

"Then again, im also the person unwilling to have a gun in my house in order to kill "home invaders" hellbent on raping me and stealing my things...because I have no WANT to kill them. Granted, I dont WANT to be killed either."

....You would rather be raped, beaten, murdered, tortured, etc. than to kill (or just injure) the sick person who is doing said things to you? WHAT?

Have you NO sense of self-preservation?

I've been raped before- trust me, you'll WANT to kill them.

gm CD, db

george pauljohn

What have they put in our food or water supply to create this insanity?

Missed the article two days ago about the report released by CDC and EPA about the chemicals in our plastics used for food containers and in foods that are absorbed in brain tissue in developing children that affects the part of the brain controlling the reasoning centers?

Yeah, I'm sure you did since only about 27 or so people commented on it. Don't have to face what what we don't want to know.

There is something WRONG in our food and drink supply, folks. We allow more additives here in the US than most European countries do. Accept it and deal with it or live with the consequences. With a couple of exceptions, it is the young people of the last three decades who have performed the atrocities of our times, with nothing to gain from them.

Screminmimi:

Have you read all the articles about Monsonto? If not, check it out.

They're the company that sells genetically modified seeds. It's insane.

There are thousands of people just like her, and they are walking the same streets the rest of us walk, the bigger the population the more nut jobs, allot of them are passed on from generation to generation, people should know the family you are marrying into, if schizophrenia for example exist in the family then it could be passed on to the next generation, the media is busy on the subject, they want to see a society completely controlled if a person says the wrong thing then they in their mind should be locked up, the power of the media can alter the course of the world, isn't it great that some paranoid little nerd that loves to write can influence a society, Hitler proved that inn the years between WWI & WWII, its not always a good thing, I see the similarities in today's politically correct BS being pumped into our youth that will ultimately lead to them throwing away everything we have worked for for over two hundred years, they are being taught that the rights they have are bad for them and the constitution needs to be corrected, that is the message that the mainstream liberal media is force feeding the liberal society and as one sided as it is, foolishpeople believe in it. when we surrender all our rights the door for evil will once again be open and people will be warehoused, a population of paranoid people is the most dangerous thing that man can face, the media is not our friend, to much control is a bad thing, history has proved that. and that is why we have the rights we have. the question is which is the lesser of the two evils, freedom or control? it appears that things are getting worse as more control is forced on the people and our rights are slowly being taken away from us. I don't have the answers to the problems but I don't believe we are being led in the right direction, remember the German people loved and followed Hitler blindly and look where it got them, when will our government start setting up the concentration camps, the mental institutions, and employ the brown shirts to control us. its in the works, its only a matter of time and like the people in Hitlers Germany people choose to not see it, they believed things were going to keep getting better, right now the government is at its worst, it is out of control, its not of the people for the people by the people, its not strong state governments held together by a union its a dominating federal government over steeping its boundaries and responsibilities and forcing its will on the populous, that is not the way the Republic was fashioned.

Its obvious the woman is sick, and the cure the media has in mind is to support the removal of every ones rights, its sad to know that any one can be detained for any reason at any time because they are not politically correct, and its a media fueled agenda to promote a lock up program, all we need to do is identify the problem and see how we can help the individual not control the whole population, as far as I can see the government is as much a danger as the 10% of the mentally imbalanced people running around. besides we have even bigger problems with people traveling the world so freely and bringing diseases into the country unchecked. a pandemic is just around the corner and that will be the end for millions, every jetliner is a potential petrie dish of death. the media wont tell you much about that or address the highway deaths on a regular bases, if it doesn'tinvolve a gun its not news worthy to them. I guess what we have is a dysfunctional media that selectively reports the news to further their own agenda and manipulate a percentage of the population.

Jessicalc

I have. No one wants to listen or try to do anything about it. Maybe because they think it's too big a problem to tackle.

They would rather keep focusing on guns and when something happens like this young woman where a gun is not part of the equation it doesn't cause a big response and is swept aside pretty quickly.

Don't know your stand on the gun issue, but I'll keep mine. This kind of insanity in the people raised on genetically modified and chemically contaminated foods will increase and as a 62 year old I'm beyond running from them and I live alone.

If Washington doesn't wake up to the real threat our citizens will cannibalize each other in a few years via murder and suicide.

Is this what happens when they run out of "free" condoms at the health center?

NUTS On MEDS. google the page SRRIstories. Columbine, Batman, all on meds. All of them.

Eileen - do you think the meds made them so messed up they wanted to kill people...or do you think the fact that they were on meds is a sign they were already so messed up and the meds just didnt work?

im just curious, I keep seeing this plea to see the connection and all I see is that people are really messed up, and hitting the easy button with popping pills isnt going to help everyone, a lot of people are going to fall through the cracks...and our unwillingness to see who is truly messed up beyond repair and remove them from society is the problem.

From what I understand about the Sandy Hook guy, he was pretty messed up and they claim the mom tried "really hard to get him help" but I think, how long do you keep trying before you just admit someone is unfixable...and probably should just be locked up so they arent a danger to anyone but themselves?

Our embarrassment is what prevents us, generally, from accepting that someone just isnt ever going to be right in the head...because it's a reflection of our parenting (and i think there's truth to that in some cases). Sometimes though, the wiring is just all messed up.

Our brains are not that different from computers, and we see time and time again - some computers work absolutely as they are supposed, and some...well, just dont. They go haywire, they quit doing proper things and causing all sorts of errors and then one day, it just shuts down.

Did someone build that machine wrong (ie parenting)...or is there just ONE GLITCH in the wiring of the machine, that isnt human fault, but just "broke" and cant be repaired, and is causing all the havoc?

Another thing I think is interesting is how many parents let their kids have a "private room" in the house that the parents are never allowed in. That NEVER would have been acceptable in my parents house and they arent even strict parents (far from it) but ya know, it's their house...they should have access to all of it.

I dont care if you're over 18...if you're still living at home with mommy and daddy, expect them to have access to everything you think is yours.

Im not saying that a kid with a locked up private room is going to kill people, im saying - there's a reason you arent allowed and odds are, it's a bad reason. Your kid should not be able to bully you into letting them do whatever they want...

parents need to parent...and it wont solve everything, but it'll solve a lot.

You tell someone if they fight they go to jail and have a mark on their record forever. If they say they are going to kill someone they go to jail and have a mark on their record forever. So the people who bully them are being protected by society. Now who is their real enemy? Just going by what I seen people say as a child and what happen when you told them they couldn't do that. They would get mad at you then after they calmed down most came back and said they were sorry they were just mad.

Eileen,

Correlation is not causation. They would not be on psychotropic medication had they not already had a mental health issue prior to taking the medication.

FYI "pent up", I believe is the expresssion, though now that I think of it "Penned up" would work also.

RO MAR, you are obviously correct! But your post brings up an interesting point. Since the Sandy Hook tragedy, there has been a lot of focus on ways to identify individuals with mental issues that might have access to firearms. We have such a process. In the case of the "Bat Man" movie shooter, this process broke down! The shooter, student in a doctoral program at the local CO university, was seeing a staff shrink. Prior to the shooting, the shrink warned officials at the university (as required by law) that this guy was about to implode. University officials took no action!! Didn't read too much about that did you?

Medical professionals already have broad power to act in the cause of public safety w/o violating the doctor/patient relationship! You most often see this in the case of elderly or impaired drivers.

In the case of the Sandy Hook incident, the shooter tried to purchase firearms prior to the shooting. When he became agitated by the wait period, that should have sent up a red flag to the store clerk. Although under no legal responsibility, that store clerk could have alerted police.

My point here is that we do have systems in place that would prevent these type of individuals from getting weapons. What I mean by "these type" is those that have a history of issues as was the case with the most recent high profile incidents. It's the ones that have no history that scare me! There is no way to identify and stop these people; including gun control! Good police work as was here helps!

@myname123.... If we were taxing bullets, the national debt would have been payed off by DHS with their ammunition purchases over the last year. Hollow-points were bought[against Geneva convention] by the millions. Who do you think the DHS plans to use these bullets on?

but the govt doesnt tax itself. they only want us not to have ammo

if he is from japan he might know a little about how free speech can be taken away. he only sees what they want him to see.

sadly you look at this woman and realize here is a liberal who by their own actions and lack of faith has permanetly marginalized her self. ashley69 is just another example of liberal lunacy if she thinks that a gun free america will make this country safe. but oh well ashley keep drinking the kool aid

I just read on one of these websites last week that the U.S. owns 5 times as many guns as any country among 50 checked in the world , but we are down to #26 or #27 in the number of deaths caused by them. Seems we are not as killing as much we think. Looks like the only way we can stop killing is to lobotomize all humans. That would take care of all killings by gun, knife, bomb, poison, garroting, etc.

@Ashley-69. Read the 2nd Amendment before you post something that stupid. It states a well regulated militia not well regulated weapons. I really love how people throw out statistics from who knows where when they post. It's true because the media posted it on the internet? Get real. Gun fatalities are no where near car fatalities (You brought up the comparison not me).

Owning a gun is a right given by our constitution, owning a driving a car is a privildge, not a right. Maybe you should understand the difference before posting nonsense.

If I remember correctly, Adam Lanza was denied purchasing a weapon. He didn't own one so your post about owning one making you more likely to commit murder is false.

Um, Ashley, first of all, where's the money going to come for this "licensure" procedure? MMPI? I had it done years ago - good indicator but by no means would it pass the acid test. Then, let's jump into privacy laws and rights. This isn't Mother Russia back in the day. In the good ol' USA, citizens "assume" they have rights and will have due process if they think they're being violated. Your presentation just fired up the ACLU who will have more clients and cases that they will never wade through.

Ashley, first off Automobiles cause more deaths and injuries than do guns.

2nd WHO do you propose will pay for all those tests you want done prior to a person getting a gun? Where do we have the personnel and equipment to do the medical/psychological evaluations, proficiency tests that you are suggesting, etc.

Denver Down - "how do you stop someone who does not even care about their own life let alone anyone else?"

The answer seems obvious...you just described muslim terrorists hellbent on strapping bombs to their chests, or driving into busy sections of town with bombs in their car - ok with killing themselves for the "greater cause".

We should do the same thing we're doing to combat muslim terrorists.

I realize we cant invade and occupy our own nation, thats just silly. But we can employ the same methods of spying, infiltrating and trapping people into being boogeymen. You'll notice, whatever we are doing must be working...I have not heard of a single successful muslim terrorist bomber in america since 9/11 - have you?

And we all know how hellbent they are on destroying america and our way of life, and our freedom.

Clearly, whatever we are doing is working - let's extrapolate that plan into tackling the White Male American Domestic Terrorist problem, once and for all.

You are as uneducated as you are uninformed...

Put takenaka on ignore. He/she posts the same sh*t on every single article printed by NBC that has anything to do with guns.

Mr Steady

Put takenaka on ignore. He/she posts the same sh*t on every single article printed by NBC that has anything to do with guns.

Even though I disagree with Takenaka I took the time to post to/from him. He his in Japan but has some children living in the US. From his point of view, courtesy of NBC, all he sees his reports of guns/deaths etc. With his children here and he being in Japan, he imagines the streets/communities are unsafe at best and massacres like Newtown are what is hyped on here.

Has there been a day gone by that NBC has not had an article about guns/gun violence? I cannot remember when. Takenaka sees these headlines and is truly frightened for the safety of his kids - much akin to what you or I would be if our children were overseas, say in Afghanistan or Iraq?

Again, even though I disagree with Takenaka's posts, I prefer not to ignore them as he has the right to post them, just as you do if you prefer to ignore him.

Have a Good Day and we all need to practice a bit more tolerance in viewpoints.

Have a Good Day and we all need to practice a bit more tolerance in viewpoints.

People can practice all the tolerance they want. The word isn't in my vocabulary when it comes to my rights being threatened, especially when there is no valid reason to do so. When they ban all the guns, I doubt anyone will be saying "It's ok, I was tolerant of their viewpoint."

Have a good day, yourself.

@Takenaka... You are right, good aim is necessary and practice makes perfect.

to who the govt when they want to take your right to free speech because that comes right after taking our guns

Ashley, what new law do you propose that we pass that will effectively prevent people from deciding to kill someone? I will be anxiously awaiting your response.

When you come up with that law, I will be first in line to convince congress to pass it.

BTW Ashley, can you tell me the first three words of the constitution without looking it up?

LOL,Well at least thats what Obama told you !!

helpful for who the criminal?

Still waiting for that law, Ashley.

Okay, you obviously don't care for our President - we get that. Your mom is calling you.

I hope the US Secret Service looks you up, Hoosier - you disrespectful, racist, seditious bastard!

@1hoosier10....You forgot to mention his stolen SSN, his Indonesian passport and school records claiming foreign aid status, and a host of other charges against him. Why don't you just come out and say that Obama is the awaited Antichrist? No one would believe you anyway, people are blind and refuse to see.

eric: Only a racist would call hoosier one. In his rant he made NO mention of race. Only YOU did that.

We are allowed to dis-like a president. Even when he is of another race.

Smoke and mirrors? Same right wing propaganda. You need to put another layer of aluminum foil in your hat and come out of your parent's basement. And, because this is a free country you are free to move to another, Be careful and dont let the doorknob hit you in the @$$ when you leave. Hoosier Daddy???

Arizona, he's just another race-baiting liberal, what do you expect from him? When they can't win the argument, just lie, obfuscate, divert attention from the real issue. Obama is not up to the task of being a president and indeed may be attempting to change America into something it is not or ever will be. As long as we stick to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, we'll be okay. We must prevail. And lastly, when I criticize Obungles, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE!

Hoosier, tell us how you really feel. Do you go to every news article comment page to rant and rave, no one paying attention to you at home? Guess they know you are just a hateful old impotent man.

Yeah, racism is one of the programmed talking points distributed by the left to protect their BO. When someone sez something in disagreement with the BO call em racist. If that doesn't work insult them. Call em stupid teabaggers, tell them they can't read, call em rednecks, idiots, etc, etc.

It's tired people. Come up with some fresh material.

Jon, you forgot Faux News, Rush Limpballs, Republicons, Rethuglicans, Bible thumpers, bigots, and haters.

Did we miss any?

Exactly. I can Dislike Obozo and not be a racist. I just don't like his politics.

you are wrong obama is not bungling this economy. he is right on plan. everything he is doing is according to his master plan to destroy the united states and people like ashley with her enormous stupidity are accomplices

what's going to happen to this hoosier guy when he leaves junior high and has to move out of his mom's basement?

STOP JUST BLAMING OBAMA AND START BLAMING CONGRESS TOO!!! I mean every single one of them because they just don't give a s*** about the people at all.. They get all these benefits for being a public servant but yet all they do is sit on their a**es! I am sick and tired of all this cr**. If our public servants can't work together then they shouldn't be there.

Whitz,

Yes, it is all of their faults. But since Mr. Obama is the President of the United States of America - and the "buck stops here" it IS HIS fault. My way or the highway - sound familiar.

Where do you expect this massive money tree to sprout up to pay for all the goodies he keeps handing out - unlimited UE, illegals benefits, "redistributing" wealth to make up for past and previous inadequacies - irregardless of where anyone came from - it needs to be "adequately redressed". Well, sorry folks - this coal mining family owned no slaves - did not contribute to the Lessening of a Race (Welsh/Irish coal miners were indentured as well sweetie).... Every hear the expression "owed my soul to the company store"?

He cares not to compromise on cutting ancillary ridiculous overspending: aka why does everyone need 20 assistants? Why do they get special benefits after just one term (INCLUDING president). PAY for your own stuff - that you make us "little people" do. PAY for your OWN retirement, WORK for it for over 20 years before you can even THINK of retiring. The US is the GOVERNMENT (INCLUDING president's) piggy bank - like a game of Monopoly. But the money's not fake - or at least not to us.

I owe you NOTHING, you owe me NOTHING - work for what you need - and hope to get some of that you want - BIG DIFFERENCE. 50 years old and in my FIRST little house with my husband. 1050 sq feet on 1/3 an acre - whoopie - but it "will be" ours - and we pay for OUR future - not yours.

ashley: Please answer: How many persons are in a militia?

Ashley your making up your own interpretation of the amendment, first off if the militia is controlled by the government then it is not really a militia, we are allowed to form militias to control the government and keep it in line and its been a ongoing battle for the past century to protect that right why? Politicians have been selling out the American people since WWI, they have transferred the nations wealth to world financial institutions, our military is constantly being deployed to protect the same peoples interest not our security but some of the worlds richest peoples interest, we have been fighting a loosing battle with our own government, we have been lied to stole from and conned by the very people we put into these trusted government positions that is why we have the right to bear arms, as Jefferson stated so we can clean house of these people, the problem is they have us out gunned, they want to downgrade what we have so we can't be a threat to them. our government is paranoid for a reason and its not what you think.

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People with mental or anger management problems should be flagged and not allowed to purchase or have access to GUNS. Just like Obama's NEW EO that enables/requires a mental health Provider to do this...

Nothing NEW about the EO... all the EO said was do what was already LAW. Too bad his EOs don't say enforce ALL existing laws instead of ignoring so many of them to be politically correct... see immigration for starters.

People that try to obtain guns are interviewed by their Local Sheriff and their back ground records are screened. The few states that current do not do this - SHOULD. Obama's NEW EO covers this also...

Again.. the EO says do what is already REQUIRED by law...

did you even READ the article? 1. weapons or explosives found? 2. she is 19.. it would be ILLEGAL for her to possess a handgun by federal LAW. Please learn what existing laws are before you congratulate the politicians for posturing... you look like one of them who has no clue what laws already exist.

The big difference with an EO, it is a FEDERAL LAW...

It also provides for the restrictions caused by HIPAA...

It provides a base for the Gun Laws across the nation to become the SAME and provides for a Federal Clearing House...

BTY - Do YOU have a CCW or been through an interview to procure a gun the LEGAL Way??? Been there done that and my guns are LOCKED in a SAFE...

There should be no EO in regards to the second amendment period!

The way Obama is designing the law the government can disallow gun ownership to virtually everyone its a way to get around the constitution, its another Conn job folks. the right will become a privilege to the few and like privileges versus rights they can be revoked, the long term goal is to disarm the people period, if Obama was really worried about human life he would do something about the speed limit that kills more then wackos with guns, but I guess 45,000 or more highway deaths are tolerated more then the 325 deaths caused by riffles in a year, and all the other injuries that go with driving at speeds that make no sense, I have to wonder where their priorities are when it comes to the math if life is so important then why allow so much of it to be lost and barely give it a thought. then there is the hammer it is deadlier then the riffles but the government is not even considering a ban on hammers, or knives either they kill more then riffles, why single out this one particular weapon when it is the least used?

Do you think they won't? She made a threat. No evidence was found. She will most likely be kicked out of school and shunned by class mates and friends. Pushed farther down and alienated by even more people.

Oh, yes. I know!! I have a marvelous idea!! She is obviously troubled so let's load her up with antidepressants or other mind-altering drugs! That will surely fix everything.

They need to let the reason for what these people do be made public. They need to look for a way to work on the problem not the result of the problem. Those problems need to be worked on as a society. That can not be done until we face it and admit every ones part in it.

First off, it is highly unusual for a woman to act out in this way. Even just to be making the threats is very outside of the typical profile. I am almost surprised that this was even investigated. Maybe it is just that authorities are on edge. If nothing else it says people are paying attention.

I saw something interesting last night about school shootings. PBS has this week has run a number of their shows in a series called "After Newtown". Their Frontline show, Nova and another couple specials about guns in America and another called "The Path to violence". I was expecting a somewhat left leaning perspective, even though I am left myself and tend to see PBS as being pretty even handed. I guess to some degree, I suppose their are times when I question the right wing's claim of media bias.

Of late, there is no doubt the media has had what I would call an anti-gun spin on things. I think some of that comes from the fact that the media producers and personalities are largely based in big metropolitan areas. Gun issues are different in these environments. But a lot of things are different in these environments. The big city environments are more comfortable with ethnic diverisity and things like gay rights. The rural environement tends to be less accepting of those things but has little issues with gun rights. We all need to clean up our acts and realize that personal rights are rights no matter where you live and we would all be better off shedding some of our biases which are based on our personal perspectives.

I'll just add that I am not in favor of all the anti-gun legislation ideas being thrown around, and my views on gun rights are much as my views on civil rights. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights is about personal freedoms and equality. I see women's rights, gay rights, minority rights and gun rights as all being very much the same kinds of things. Anytime we are willing to compromise someone else's rights for our own convenience or "peace of mind", we are making a mistake. We do have a rural/urban divide in this country and it is not a good thing for any of us. When we think that someone else execising their rights, somehow infringes on our own, we are just being selfish because those rights might not seem important to us in particular.

Anyway, I was expecting a bit of a bias on these shows too. I was surprised. In fact the positions on guns were conveyed very even handedly with no leading conclusions being portrayed. But the vast majority of the programming was much more focused on the mental issues. The Nova took a very scientific view and showed some very interesting things. The "Path to Violence" special also spent its focus on the mental aspects too. Very revealing stuff. No matter what your position on guns, this is well worth seeing as they zeroed in on the real issue, which is the mental state that leads to these things.

I was very surprised to find out that a number of major incidents were in fact prevented. Things I've never heard about. Also heard about how there were clear cases where the system had all the warnings, saw it coming, made some attempts, but these failed and the end result was one of these incidents. There is a vast amount that we have learned from many of these prior shootings, yet little of it has been shared with the public and with a lot of officials who could definitely benefit from it. There is a lot we can do that has nothing to do with guns but instead, getting help for those who need it and recognizing warning signs. It is complex and they gave no perfect answer, but it just seems to me there is not enough discussion about these issues. Instead people want some quick fix and look to things like gun laws instead of dealing with the difficult issues. I was amazed that in many of the school shootings, people knew it was coming, maybe not in detail, but they knew and remained silent. Shocking I think. Maybe they didn't want to believe it. Maybe they even had some sympathy for the perpetraitors. It isn't clear, but people knew it was coming and the incidents still happened.

These programs revealed a lot of very interesting insight. Things you probably haven't heard or read about. Take the opportunity to see these if you can. I am sure you can watch them on the PBS website too. They really hit on the core issue which is the mental illness component, not the guns.

Murder is murder no matter the weapon. You plead, you get lesser sentence and possibility of parole a little earlier. Blue State/Red state, doesn't matter - though I do love your reference to the lug wrench.

You would be foolish to think that the FBI and ATF isn't going to keep an eye on her. Threatening with guns is one thing, explosives another.

After we trash what is left of her life, load her up on downers and confuse the hell out of her with endless months of therapy, rob her of any dignity she may have left, teach her that its not her fault and everyone else is to blame she will be just fine!

I think it's a sad commentary on America today that any one could even begin to justify what that piece of scum did. Do me wrong so I retaliate by going on a killing spree???? WTF?????????????????

If I went on a killing spree every time someone was unjust to me there would be a heck of a lot of dead people. What have we become????????????

Well, Dorner is good and dead now so we will never know for sure who did what or how/why everything happened.

I'm not defending what Dorner allegedly did or why but it is still largely only alleged.

Shotguns are good for some things. But I wouldn't shoot one in a room with my child.

Very true...very loud...might scare the munchin. Joe says to take it out "on the balcony" fire both barrels and then the bad guys will run away...course, now you're unarmed...sorry...lol!

Thank God these people are not experts. If you want to take down a crowd the ol riot gun is one mean tool.

Why doesn't Biden's bodyguards just carry shotguns? Because if there is a threat to him, he/she is not going to run with a warning shot. Firing warning shots is a bad idea as most criminals would then shoot if they thought they were being shot at. Never point or fire a weapon unless you mean to shoot to kill. It should be a last resort if you think your life or the lives of your family is at stake. Biden is a fool acting a fool.

30 years ago I went into an old gun store to buy a $400 semi-auto 9mm pistol. The old man in the store asking why I wanted it, I told him it would be for home and motor home protection.

Well I left with a $179 SHORT BARREL 12 gauge and 4 boxes of #4 buck and 1 box of 00 buck. That is a personal protection weapon. You nuts with your wimpy pistols and AR15s will get taught a lesson.

Agreed Mule's, that a shotgun is the best home protection weapon in most cases. But would recommend something smaller in shot size. Something like a #7 shot, at least the first few rounds. Works best since it won't go through a wall and accidentally hurt somene else in your house or your neighbors.

I don't agree that pistols and AR type weapons don't have a place. They do. Just not as the best, every day home defense weapon.

Jon-998022, I agree, on both the shotgun and the load. And I agree with you on the pistols and the high powered rifles for that reason. Too often innocent people get into crossfire because a bullet penetrated a wall past the intended target. I keep #4 in my gun and it's just me and my wife who live in the house now and we have an older house with solid wooden walls but we have neighbors.

Wonder if he goes skeet shooting with the Prez? Two experts on shotgunnery...

Ab-so-lutely...these people are PATIENT. They've been slowly implementing their doctrine for almost one hundred years...this might be the last chance to really bring on that Far-left agenda...and if the house goes democrat in 2014...God help us all.

@Mr.Steady It's called INCREMENTALISM.

The brady bunch says they will get all guns banned, "one small step at a time".

Tumbleweed I think from your comments you have tumbled on head too many times. Concussions are a terrible thing.

sorry dude but my mossberg chainsaw holds 8 shells i use a combo load of flechettes,dragons breath and 00 buck. got all the bases covered in a nice 20 inch package . i do however have a desert eagle 50 for back up. and before you say it i am retired military and as a sniper i very seldom miss. thats gun control

75th, There is a saying, "if you don't show anyone where your goat is tied then noone can get your goat." You say you are a professionally trained sniper....who loads a shotgun with those three different shells? For a home protection application? I think your goat has been found.

mule:

Read it yourself. Then we'll see if you have the balls to apologize for the attack on me.

"Handgun Control, Inc. changed its name to Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. The organization originated (1974) as the National Council to Control Handguns (NCCH), a group which lobbied for government restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms through support for restrictions on the manufacture, importation, sale, transfer, and civilian possession of handguns. The organization voiced a desire for an eventual handgun ban through gradual steps, but changed its name and espoused goals due to results of a survey. In 1991, then HCI amended its Articles of Incorporation to reflect its support of restrictions on rifles and shotguns as well."

Pay attention. They are coming after your shotgun also.

Well, Bobo, you convinced me. There are laws against rape and there are still rapes.There are laws against premeditated murder and there are still murders. There are laws against distributing hardcore drugs yet there is a huge illegal drug underground. SO, I see your point, lets do away with ALL these silly laws that do not completely stop these activities....why bother!?

Catfish, you are missing some important points. There are laws against rape and we aren't banning penises (the weapon). Nobody is advocating we eliminate laws against murder. And how is that illegal drug ban working out for you?

So, I see your point. You actually proved Bobodean's.

Thanks for playing.

Penises don't commit rape, men do. THAT'S why penises aren't banned, right? Gheez, all I'm saying is that we have laws, controls, etc in place that do not eliminate all relavent abhorrent behavior; I certainly do not want to cripple the 2nd amendment, but I think we need to accept some kind of reasonable controls. The fact that we have laws making a school yard a "gun free" area and there still seems to be people violating that "gun free" law doesn't mean we should eliminate the law. That was my only point to Bobo.

Thanks for enlighning me, though.

You must admit, my comparison is a valid one, albeit a little crude. It always come full circle, though. People's actions are ultimately the problem we have, not weapons.

The fact that we have laws making a school yard a "gun free" area and there still seems to be people violating that "gun free" law doesn't mean we should eliminate the law. That was my only point to Bobo.

You don't think if we eliminate the "gun free" law that there just MIGHT be a chance someone would be carrying concealed and shoot back at a perp? You don't think someone just MIGHT think twice about shooting up a place if there is a chance they will get shot back at? For instance, how many mass shooting have you ever heard of taking place at a gun show where almost all the dealers are displaying a side arm?

If you want to test my theory, put a "gun free zone" sign in front of your house. I'm quite content to believe in my theory without testing it myself, however.

First, no, I do not accept your comparison as valid - not at all. Period.

Let's turn the US into one big gun show? Really? So now a perp will know he has to show up with a bigger, badder weapon than a 9mm Glock; now he shows up with a concealed M14 or AK....or barracades himself in a book depository and uses some easily available tech sniper weapon. After all, he knows that someone down there may be packin' a hand gun. All that would happen is an elevation of the threat. Everyone would need to walk around with an AK slung over their shoulder. And, no, I would have no problem putting up a "gun free zone" in front of my house right now. At this point I have not been driven to a point of abject paranoia. BUT if anyone can buy any weapon with no background checks or wait period, I would probably be driven to that level of paranoia...as would many others. Like I've said, God bless the second ammendment, but let's just figure out the "well regulated" (or regulated at all) part.

Turn the US into a gun shop, huh?

I rest my case.

First, no, I do not accept your comparison as valid - not at all. Period.

That's because you failed logic in school. If you are going to blame the weapon in a shooting, then blame the weapon in a rape. Same difference. You can't seem to understand that it is a CONSCIOUS DECISION that someone makes to rape or murder someone. It has nothing to do with the weapon. If you can't grasp that concept, I can't help you.

Let's turn the US into one big gun show? Really? So now a perp will know he has to show up with a bigger, badder weapon than a 9mm Glock; now he shows up with a concealed M14 or AK....orbarracades himself in a book depository and uses some easily available tech sniper weapon. After all, he knows that someone down there may be packin' a hand gun. All that would happen is an elevation of the threat. Everyone would need to walk around with an AK slung over their shoulder. And, no, I would have no problem putting up a "gun free zone" in front of my house right now. At this point I have not been driven to a point of abject paranoia.

After a ridiculous rant like that, I would conclude that indeed you have been driven to a point of paranoia.

I rest my case.

Fine, but you are still wrong.

HUH? Logic? "Blame" a weapon..an inanimate piece of steel. If you can reduce the argument to my "blaming" a piece of steel, then, yeah your logic on your planet works. But, let me see if I can be clearer: I am NOT "blaming" the weapon. I AM however, concerned over the uncontrolled proliferation and accessability of expectionallydeadly weapons. I am hoping that a PERSON who is contemplating a REALLY bad action does not have the option of using a high-powered, auto weapon to carry their plan. That's all. I could say that your idea of having a shoot out at the OK corral on a schoolyard is a lot crazier then my vision of a perp showing up with a weapon he would believe he needs to overpower citizens with hand guns. If a wacko was planning an assault, and he knew he'd have to deal with hand guns, and he could easily get a semi or auto long rifle, wouldn't he opt for the rifle?

If, if, if....but nobody DID pay attention did they? Like you said, it all goes back to peoples actions, or in-actions in this case (Sandy Hook). It will happen again....and again; so let's at least TRY to mitigate the carnage AND have a robust second ammendment. I KNOW we can do it! I have faith.

Why is every conversation broken down to a 2-dimensional conservative/liberal argument?

It's too easy just to lump whole groups of people together rather than think independently about issues.

Joe, because most people are one dimensional and there are two sides.

Why do conservatives get blamed for what happens in liberal states.

Chris...because they were given everything by their liberal parents who just wanted their children to grow up having more opportunities than they did...so they're bored with life and want to do something that they will be recognized for, besides just being another liberal in a conservative world..

I just hope that you never suffer from the anguish of mental illness. She is ILL and fortunately will get help. We have serious mental issues in the country which are not being addressed and which lead to extreme behavior.

Correct homesick ..... the mental health issue is this, there are to many people and the Gene Pool is getting

thin.

She is a human being in need of help.

She may be a being, but she's not human! I'm sick and tired of the statement 'in need of help'...damn, that's getting old already! People just don't get it that there is NO HELP for these animals! They shoot horses don't they? There is no difference with them!