Woman shot by oven while trying to cook waffles

An 18-year-old Florida woman was only slightly injured this week when she was shot by her friend's oven, police said.


Aalaya Walker was visiting a friend in St. Petersburg Monday when they decided they wanted some late-night waffles, The Tampa Bay Times reported. So Walker began preheating the oven — unaware that her friend, JJ Sandy, 25, was storing a magazine from his .45-caliber Glock 21 in the oven.


The magazine exploded about 9 p.m. ET, spraying casing fragments at high speed and striking Walker. She managed to pick some of the fragments out of her leg and chest and then took a bus to the hospital, where she was treated and released.

Sandy told police he'd stored the gun in a drawer but had stored the magazine in the oven. Four rounds were in the 13-capacity magazine, he said.

Gun and ammunition references indicate that the .45-caliber bullets commonly used in Glocks can explode at temperatures as low as 280 degrees — or even lower if they've been exposed to heat for a long time, which can degrades the structure. 

Sandy "stated that he does not have a temperature gauge on the oven so he estimates the temperature based on how far the knob is turned," according to the police report, which was obtained by the Times. "I observed that the inside of the oven was damaged."

In a memorable 2007 episode, the popular science TV show "Mythbusters" found in several experiments that bullets can explode "once the oven was hot enough." 

"Without a gun barrel to contain and direct the propellant gases, the bullets did not develop enough speed to pierce the glass or steel portions of the oven. The shell casings actually caused more damage than the bullets," it found — essentially reproducing what police said happened Monday.

Sandy wasn't charged because he had a proper concealed weapons permit, The Tampa Tribune reported.

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Comment author avatarPatB-2046688Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Now come all the "ban the oven comments"

  • 46 votes
#1 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:36 PM EST

Now as a gun owner, this guy did not need to own a firearm. I don't think a background check would have prevented this fool from getting a handgun though, what an idiot! This is not the 'responsible gunowner' meant when people use that term.

  • 86 votes
#1.1 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:43 PM EST

"Sandy wasn't charged because he had a proper concealed weapons permit"

Really? That's why he wasn't charged?

So now you need a concealed carry permit to own bullets and store them in stupid places?

More likely he wasn't charged because there was no crime.


  • 83 votes
#1.2 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:45 PM EST
Comment author avatarZeivahFlyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Guns don't kill people ......

Does this constitute a Good guy with a gun or a Bad guy with a gun?

So basically this woman could have been killed by accidental gunfire - a good example of "Guns kill people!"

  • 40 votes
#1.3 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:46 PM EST

Oven... Gun safe... same thing, right? What a moron.

  • 75 votes
#1.4 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:46 PM EST

Sandy wasn't charged because he had a proper concealed weapons permit

What does this have to do with anything? It was in his home, not in public, and the firearm wasn't involved. Unless maybe they are considering the oven to be a weapon.

  • 34 votes
#1.5 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:48 PM EST
Comment author avatarJessica-1170252Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Maybe im jaded, but when people say LAW ABIDING GUN OWNER - this is what I think of.

Idiots with guns.

But he's law abiding...just dumb as a box of bullets.

  • 56 votes
#1.6 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:54 PM EST

For Customers Who Purchased Ovens Without Dial Numbers.

"To preheat the oven.......

.......After third gunshot, place chicken in oven for 1 1/2 hours"

  • 97 votes
#1.7 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:55 PM EST

I am a strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment and gun ownership rights but THIS fool shouldn't be owning a gun. He put the MAGAZINE in the oven?!?! The OVEN?!?!?

So this guy is walking around the house with the magazine in his hand saying "I need to hide this somewhere".

Bookshelf? Nope. In a cookie jar? No. In a shoe box? No. In a drawer? Nope. "Say, here is the oven. NOBODY will think to look there!!".

Really? Bullets have gun powder. Gun powder explodes when it hits flame or heat. And THIS idiot thinks an OVEN is the best place to hide a magazine of bullets?!?!?

Jeezzzzzzzzz.........

  • 70 votes
#1.8 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:56 PM EST

where the f-ck is darwin in all this, how do people like this survive, I always store my gun ammo in the stove, I mean who would look their? For f-cks sake people.

  • 27 votes
#1.9 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:01 PM EST

I would like to know what he was thinking storing a magazine clip in an oven... Who comes up with that idea??

  • 16 votes
#1.10 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:02 PM EST

Too bad there wasn't a good oven with a gun around to stop this bad oven with a gun before it hurt this young woman.

  • 40 votes
#1.11 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:04 PM EST

As the great comedian Ron White once said "You can't fix stupid."

  • 38 votes
#1.12 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:06 PM EST
Comment author avatarrutherford the braveExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

"Gun and ammunition references indicate that Glock bullets can explode at temperatures as low as 280"

What references??!!

Glock 21 fires a .45 ACP bullet" Automatic Colt Pistol". There are no such thing as "Glock bullets" for the G21. Glock does have pistols that fire .45 GAP "Glock Automatic Pistol" rounds, but not this firearm. Go ahead MSN make up more terms that don't exist. Just like "high capacity clips" and" assault weapons" are made up terms.

  • 29 votes
#1.13 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:09 PM EST
Comment author avatarIXLR8Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Why did this dumb B have to make waffles late, late at night in a oven?? Were you high and had the munchies? None of this would have happened if she would have stopped at the late Taco Bell drive by.......

  • 8 votes
#1.14 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:10 PM EST

What does this have to do with anything? It was in his home, not in public, and the firearm wasn't involved. Unless maybe they are considering the oven to be a weapon.

unless they live in an apartment, and you live next door

  • 16 votes
#1.15 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:11 PM EST

LMAO! Comments are great........

  • 15 votes
#1.16 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:15 PM EST

The sure shows the lack of education out there. I don't care if the owner of the premises never uses their oven, that's a terrible place to store a firearm or a magazine.

Remember, not all gun control is about taking things away or background checks or whatever. It's about making sure people are smart and responsible, too.

  • 20 votes
#1.17 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:24 PM EST

Question....WTF makes waffles IN an oven?? ON an oven, yes. NEXT to an oven, yes. With a WAFFLE IRON, yes...But IN an oven?? Stupid all around....

  • 34 votes
#1.18 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:29 PM EST

This is not the 'responsible gunowner' meant when people use that term.

Which is why it is headline news on NBC.

  • 12 votes
#1.19 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:29 PM EST

@Rob68, Eggo Waffles.... just take it out of the freezer and put them in a toaster. And if you don't have a toaster, the oven...

  • 15 votes
#1.20 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:35 PM EST

No need to ban ovens. We just need to have all ovens complete background checks before they are allowed to have ammo stored in them..... ;)

Probably need background checks for all tosters, dishwashers and garbage disposals too.

  • 12 votes
#1.21 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:35 PM EST

Now come all the "ban the oven comments"

I waffled on my original comment.

  • 11 votes
#1.22 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:37 PM EST

ZeivahFly

Guns don't kill people ......

Does this constitute a Good guy with a gun or a Bad guy with a gun?

So basically this woman could have been killed by accidental gunfire - a good example of "Guns kill people!"

hahahahahahahahaha..............ZeivahFly....Really?...........hahahahahaha.......Did you not read the article or what? Killed by accidental gunfire? I can't stop laughing..............."a good example of "Guns kill people!"...........no really stop it..........you're making my diaphragm hurt like hell, and if I was drinking something, I woulda needed a new keyboard................

ok, ok, ok,.....deep breaths................ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Must be a slow media day for gun control when they have to post these "World's Dumbest" articles.

"It's about making sure people are smart and responsible, too."

In the words of Forest Gump "Stupid is what stupid does". So um, who decides smart and responsible?

  • 10 votes
#1.23 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:38 PM EST

Maybe we just need an IQ test along with a mental health exam for gun purchasers? You would have to break triple digits to own a firearm.

Of course that would exclude much of current gun toting populace from ownership.

  • 18 votes
#1.24 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:40 PM EST

WTH doesn't have a toaster?? You can afford a gun, but not a toaster??

But Eggo waffles are good so I guess you make em any way you can....

  • 12 votes
#1.25 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:41 PM EST

Well, I suppose someone has to be the moron. Put up a thermometer type graph with a red line running up to a specific number that says - You must be this smart to purchase a gun.

  • 6 votes
#1.26 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:42 PM EST

What does this have to do with anything? It was in his home, not in public, and the firearm wasn't involved. Unless maybe they are considering the oven to be a weapon.

Yeah, right! he has a CCW permit and is stupid enough to put a magazine with live rounds in it in the oven! Now, ya gonna tell me this guy's qualified to have a CCW?

Or even to own sharp objects?

  • 15 votes
#1.27 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:42 PM EST
myname123Deleted

Those waffles went out with a bang! LOL

  • 7 votes
#1.29 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:57 PM EST

Damn it!... Now I suppose the next big issue will be oven control!... Doesn't the Constitution ensure our right to make waffles without infringment?

  • 4 votes
#1.30 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:58 PM EST

Wow! What a perfectly plausible argument for the "Citizen Disarmament" movement. Good as most they toss out.

  • 3 votes
#1.31 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:07 PM EST

I don't think this young lady will be going to his home soon for a meal.I hope that he does the right thing by offering to pay her out of pocket medical expenses.

  • 4 votes
#1.32 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:09 PM EST

Obviously it is the fault of the ammo manufacturer for not clearly labeling the ammo box "Do not store bullets in an oven or near open flame, the potential heat could cause damage". They have to warn people not to let babies play with plastic bags that come with merchandise - so lesson learned ammo people - print warnings on the boxes for the dense. (rolls eyes)

  • 7 votes
#1.33 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:11 PM EST

where the f-ck is darwin in all this, how do people like this survive

they surround themselves with other people as shields I guess.

  • 9 votes
#1.34 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:18 PM EST

Put the whole Glock in there at 450 - keeps 'em nice and dry.

  • 4 votes
#1.35 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:59 PM EST

I'm surprised that anyone under 30 knows what an oven is for. Of course, I have never made waffles in an oven, I'm guessing they were EGGO's.

  • 6 votes
#1.36 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:00 PM EST

Ok, so the GUN wasn't involved in any of this. It was completely between the bullets and the oven neither of which you really need any type of permit or background check to purchase. Lovely!

  • 5 votes
#1.37 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:07 PM EST

"An asylum for the sane would be empty in America". The danger lies in the way people behave (even those considered responsible to bear firearms and all deadly weapons). Impossible to predict what people will think of next, so leave it all to coincidence and human creativity.

  • 4 votes
#1.38 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:09 PM EST

Guns don't kill ovens do?

  • 5 votes
#1.39 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:22 PM EST

You have to be dumb as a rock to store your ammo in the oven........ DUHHHHH

  • 8 votes
#1.40 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:25 PM EST

PatB --- I would have paid you $100 not to say that.

  • 2 votes
#1.41 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:29 PM EST

Herein lies the problem. As Carlin said, "think of how dumb your average person is, and then realize HALF the people are stupider than THAT." Now add guns to that. Lots of guns. Lots, and lots, and LOTS of guns. Gee. Why worry.

  • 12 votes
#1.42 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:30 PM EST

Ya but now the B owes him an Oven! Always check for ammo before turning on your oven, didn't she read the instructions on the Arm and Hammer waffle mix.

  • 4 votes
#1.43 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:41 PM EST

An 18 year old woman was shot cooking waffles by a oven.

Now if this '18 year old woman' was robbing a bank/or just killed her parents...

She be called an '18 year old teen'...not an 18 year old woman!

Strange how our justice system describes it.

  • 8 votes
#1.44 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:03 PM EST

And I thought my dad was a nut for storing a leftover chicken in a cast iron skillet in his oven! I pre-heated to bake something and kept smelling chicken...then heard sizzling!

  • 1 vote
#1.45 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:06 PM EST

The victims are always older..and the accused is always younger!

  • 1 vote
#1.46 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:14 PM EST

Even at same age!

God NBC slow tonight posting.

    #1.47 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:19 PM EST

    When I worked at a bank we inadvertantly put some coin in a coin counter that had a bullet in it, bullet went off and sounded like a bomb, coin counter contained it but was dented. Whew!

    • 1 vote
    #1.48 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:32 PM EST

    That oven was seriously packing some heat.

    • 10 votes
    #1.49 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:22 PM EST

    Kind of blurs the line between a good guy with a gun and a bad guy with a gun...

    • 1 vote
    #1.50 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:39 PM EST

    seriously now you know why some bans should be in place ,inevitably it's not the gun owner that gets hurt from his idiocy,it is always someone else...

    • 3 votes
    #1.51 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:40 PM EST

    I guess the old adage is true. You can't fix STUPID. No one in their right mind would store bullets or a loaded gun in an oven. On a side note-who cooks waffles in an oven?

    • 4 votes
    #1.52 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:41 PM EST

    That moron who's too stupid to be allowed outside without a helmet on has every right to own firearms and keep his ammo in the oven.

    Just exactly what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they wrote the 2nd amendment.

    • 2 votes
    #1.54 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:06 PM EST

    seang:

    seriously now you know why some bans should be in place ,inevitably it's not the gun owner that gets hurt from his idiocy,it is always someone else.

    Exactly. Similar to the drunk driver who kills an entire family; the drunk always seems to come out of the accident without a scratch.

    • 4 votes
    #1.55 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:08 PM EST

    Baked Bullets for Breakfast?.....OK, can I get that with a kevlar vest.

    • 1 vote
    #1.57 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:48 PM EST

    ... Guns don't... wait a minute shouldn't it read ammo doesn't kill people the shrapnel does...

    • 1 vote
    #1.58 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:16 PM EST

    Wow. Things are getting so bad that household appliances are shooting people.

    • 1 vote
    #1.59 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:27 PM EST

    Although no gun was involved and this guy probably did own a gun, this story shows that some people are just too stupid to own guns. In some cases, if we believe Pistorius' story, some people are too paranoid to own guns. In other cases, like the guy who mistook a girl for a skunk at a child's Halloween party and shot her, some people are just too irresponsible to own guns. You can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals with laws because those guys just don't follow the laws. Also, crazy people, like criminals, will also get guns even if they are unable to purchase them themselves. But there needs to be a way to keep guns out of the hands of the stupid, the paranoid and the irresponsible - then we can deal with the crazies and the criminals!

    • 4 votes
    #1.60 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:27 PM EST

    WTH doesn't have a toaster?? You can afford a gun, but not a toaster??

    You obviously haven't priced or bought a toaster lately.

    • 1 vote
    #1.61 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:33 PM EST

    What kind of an idiot thinks the oven is the proper place to store a gun magazine? That just seems like a recipe for disaster to me.

    • 1 vote
    #1.62 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:43 PM EST

    ZeivahFly

    Hey stupid. GUNS DON"T KILL!!! There was no gun involved, only an oven, an idiot, and ammo. There was no gunfire so she could not be killed by gunfire as you said she could have been. Try reading the article unless you are too illiterate to comprehend what was written. BTW, I can show you thousands of cases where people killed using guns (and other weapons) but you can't show me one case where a gun has killed anyone by itself.

    • 1 vote
    #1.63 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:52 PM EST

    More evidence that some people are too stupid to own a gun. Live ammo in an oven? What an idiot! And before anyone rips me, the truth is that the article stated the friend of this woman was a guy owned a gun. Guns are made to deliver lethal ammo in the most lethal and efficient way possible. It does not matter that he bypassed the gun stage. Anyone who thinks this is unrelated to guns clearly doesn't understand what a gun or ammo is. And any reasonable gun owner should certainly have a better place for their ammo than in a fricken oven. If they can't even manage that, they have shown that they are too irresponsible to handle either.

    And for those of you saying guns don't kill, what do you think a gun is in the first place? IT IS A WEAPON. I am tired of hearing from people who claim to know guns and obviously don't that they are harmless. It is true people kill, and are the ones who pull the trigger, or in this case cook ammo in the oven. However, guns are designed to be the most lethal kind of handheld weapon on earth. Anyone who claims gun don't kill clearly doesn't understand what guns were designed to do in the first place and therefore is probably too ignorant to be a responsible gun owner themselves.

    I support the right to own a gun, but my word people have to be responsible about it or it becomes dangerous. This is NOT responsible behavior and thinking.

    • 2 votes
    #1.64 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:02 AM EST

    Obviously it is the fault of the ammo manufacturer for not clearly labeling the ammo box "Do not store bullets in an oven or near open flame, the potential heat could cause damage".

    They will label them now! /just continuing the sarc/ at least I assume it was sarcastic...

    Unbelievable! Who on earth would store ammunition in an oven? Yeah, probably no one would look there, but...

    I would not call this an example of intelligence but of people not growing up and learning to take responsibility for themselves as adults. If someone of any age is going to be out on their own, they REALLY need to have learned enough about life to live on their own-and obviously far too many kids don't learn what they need to know about life before they go out into the world. They don't even know common sense things anymore-they don't know social skills-they just don't know how to function. It's not the fault of the younger generation, by the way-as much as we like to rail at them for all of it. After all, kids don't pick up these things from the air, the trees, or the environment-who is going to teach them if not the previous generations? That's our generation-for me, the Baby Boomers. I don't expect people to like me much for saying that, but think about it...

    • 1 vote
    #1.65 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:49 AM EST

    Wow. So no charges were brought on the guy because he holds a concealed weapon permit?

    I thought that storing firearm magazines in the oven is (criminal?) negligence that warrants a slap on the wrist at the very least, but then i remembered that was florida. Way to go with your legal system florida.

      #1.66 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:46 AM EST

      If this is where he stores ammunition, i wonder where he stores gasoline. Hmmm..

        #1.67 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:52 AM EST

        Could it be somebody was smoking an "illegal substance" and had a case of the hungries??

          #1.68 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:35 AM EST

          New checkoff item for CCW application. Do you cook waffles in the oven. Yes = DENIED! LOL!

            #1.69 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:33 AM EST

            An 18 year old woman was shot cooking waffles by a oven.

            Now if this '18 year old woman' was robbing a bank/or just killed her parents...

            She be called an '18 year old teen'...not an 18 year old woman!

            Strange how our justice system describes it.

            No, the justice system would address her as an 18 y.o. female in the adult court system.

            It is the media with an anti-gun agenda that sways between the use of "child" and "adult". They use the term to inflame the passions of the readers who are too ignorant to realize the difference.

            Just like their closing comment about the gun owner not being charged "because he had a concealed carry permit". Most people who know anything about guns would know that a concealed carry permit is not needed to have a gun in the home. However, there are now a few that think people are required to have a permit to have a gun in the home.

              #1.70 - Sat Mar 2, 2013 12:52 AM EST
              Reply

              Ovens dont shoot people. Bad people with ovens shoot people. was this an assault oven?

              • 39 votes
              #2 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:37 PM EST
              Comment author avatarpjam09Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              Clearly it was "high capacity" and therefor scares liberals who only know how to use microwaves.

              • 20 votes
              #2.1 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:43 PM EST

              Clearly this guy didn't know that storing a loaded oven in his home was dangerous.

              • 24 votes
              #2.2 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:54 PM EST

              So, did the oven commit suicide?

              • 14 votes
              #2.3 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:57 PM EST

              This is ludicrous. You just can't fix stupid. Anyone who tries to make this a case for gun control on either side is waisting their time here...

              • 15 votes
              #2.4 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:18 PM EST

              "I done toll you once! Leggo my Eggo beeoch!"

              • 16 votes
              #2.5 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:28 PM EST

              Clearly this guy didn't know that storing a loaded oven in his home was dangerous.

              And yet he apparently had no problems acquiring a concealed permit.

              • 12 votes
              #2.6 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:44 PM EST

              The oven musta snaped, as it thought itself better than a waffle maker.

              • 8 votes
              #2.7 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:49 PM EST

              Did the "balloon boy" family move to Florida??

              The bus service in St. Pete must be late & great!

                #2.8 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:40 PM EST

                Pancakes I told you pancakes, butter spreads better!

                • 1 vote
                #2.9 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:44 PM EST

                No, it wasn't an assault oven....but it was packing a "high capacity clip"....

                And the guy didn't even drive the poor girl to the hospital...she had to take a bus! He was pobabilty at walmart buying more ammo...

                • 7 votes
                #2.10 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:33 PM EST

                jmg0201

                So, did the oven commit suicide?

                Nope. It was just defending itself from someone who opened the door without knocking.

                • 7 votes
                #2.11 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:51 PM EST

                Why did she have to take a bus to the hospital? The IDIOT should have taken her!!

                • 2 votes
                #2.12 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:10 AM EST

                Along with universal background, passing an IQ test should be required before you can own a gun. My 5 year old grand-daughter is smarter than this clown.

                • 5 votes
                #2.13 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:37 AM EST

                No one is asking the obvious question...

                How do you make waffles in an oven?

                I think this is a bid by the anti gun crowd to brand ovens free from 2nd amendment protections.

                • 3 votes
                #2.14 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:38 AM EST

                pjam09

                Yes... why do we even need to have assault weapons. I mean, guns don't kill people, ovens do.

                  #2.15 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:33 AM EST
                  Yet example of where someone got hurt because of gun owner (one with a permit no less) thoughtlessness. This was a conscious decision to store ammo in the stove. People like this don't make good decisions even when there isn't much pressure. How can we expect them to make good choices when events come up where they have to decide whether or not to use lethal force?

                  1) Training, Training, Training.
                  2) Peer pressure from the good, thoughtful gun owners to stop being stupid.

                  • 8 votes
                  #2.16 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:12 AM EST

                  Sorry, I don't mean to yell. I copied this from my facebook share and it decided to go bonkers. :P

                  • 1 vote
                  #2.17 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:14 AM EST

                  This goes to prove without the remotest doubt that you just can't fix stupid! Somehow I doubt the romantic couple got their waffles ...

                    #2.18 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:52 AM EST

                    I think he forgot to engage the safety on that oven.

                      #2.19 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:50 PM EST

                      I dunno, I myself like to toast my bullets on a setting of 450, sprinkle them with a little bit of olive oil, hamburger seasoning. Make sure to toast both sides of the bullets, you dont want to have one side harder then the other.

                      • 2 votes
                      #2.20 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:33 AM EST

                      Maybe now he'll finally get her that darn toaster oven she's been asking for!

                      • 1 vote
                      #2.21 - Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:09 AM EST

                      The magazine caused most of the damage other than the oven. Unrestrained, there would have been 4 'pop's and probably no other damage.

                        #2.22 - Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:44 PM EST

                        Amazing the gun control freaks that come out to comment here. Even the title of the article is misleading. Of course what do you expect from NBC? The oven didnt shoot anyone ... no one was shot at all for that matter. She was the victim of an explosion. Granted it was caused by an idiot putting live ammo in an oven, but never the less she was NOT shot. I guess gas stoves are killing people all across the world too. You know, when someone lights a flame around a gas leak ..... maybe we should ban stoves ..... idiots!

                        According to the Tampa Tribune "Sandy wasn't charged because he had a proper concealed weapons permit" There again, another special kind of idiocy. They were inside of Sandy's residence. Since when do you need a "proper concealed weapons permit" (in America that is) to have a handgun in your residence? Seriously ? LOL!!!! even you rabid gun hating lefties have to appreciate the foolishness of that comment!

                        • 1 vote
                        #2.23 - Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:47 PM EST

                        Just read article above where a 4 year old boy belonging to a deputy shot and killed himself with the officers pistol.

                        • 2 votes
                        #2.24 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:36 PM EST
                        Reply

                        Not to blame anyone but don't most people check to see if there's anything in an oven before turning it on. Especially in a strange home.

                        • 16 votes
                        #3 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:38 PM EST

                        Most people dont store firearms in their ovens either...

                        • 37 votes
                        #3.1 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:44 PM EST

                        Think for yourself - Neither did this guy, just the bullets.

                        • 10 votes
                        #3.2 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:46 PM EST

                        Fair enough. Still a stupid thing to do.

                        • 19 votes
                        #3.3 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:48 PM EST

                        No I dont check my oven before I turn it on, but I also dont store ammunition in it either.

                        • 13 votes
                        #3.4 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:49 PM EST

                        I used to have a pet python which got loose once for about a month. I eventually found him in my oven. Fortunately, I was a college student who never cooked at home. But I never would have thought to check it before I turned it on.

                        • 7 votes
                        #3.5 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:52 PM EST

                        Twice - since i dont use my oven as a storage facility, no...I dont check it.

                        of course, this was someone elses home...we probably shouldnt assume everyone is as smart as we are.

                        • 7 votes
                        #3.6 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:56 PM EST

                        FYI, I ALWAYS check the oven before turning it on. NOT because I store my magazines there (I keep those in the gun safe where they SHOULD be!!

                        But because someone may have put a plastic cake cover or something else in there.

                        I don't ever FIND anything in the oven but for some reason I always look first.......

                        • 7 votes
                        #3.7 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:01 PM EST

                        I check the rack in an oven. Was the clip on the rack? I wouldn't have checked the corners in the bottom, or anything. I mean, who's the idiot that stores something like ammo in an oven, anyway? Oh wait, JJ Sandy, evidently. Stupid has a name.

                        • 7 votes
                        #3.8 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:34 PM EST

                        Dear Twice, gunracks are common in the back of a pickup truck window. In Florida they serve a varied purpose. The top rack is for cooking pizza and drying your wet bathing suit. The bottom one is for ammo storage, when you ARE NOT using the top rack.

                        • 3 votes
                        #3.9 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:46 PM EST

                        Last time I checked the oven, I had to clean it. I'll never do that again.

                        • 12 votes
                        #3.10 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:51 PM EST

                        Wouldn't it be common sense to suspect that an oven is carrying heat?

                        • 13 votes
                        #3.11 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:50 PM EST

                        I always check the oven before I turn it on.... I have 2 kids and you never know what you might find anywhere!

                        • 7 votes
                        #3.12 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:09 PM EST

                        When the ammo goes off the oven is hot, it's the new thermometer.

                        • 2 votes
                        #3.13 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:46 PM EST

                        When I was dating my wife before we got married, she stored clean pots and pans in her oven. I preheated the oven to bake a pizza, and when I smelled something burning, I found the handles from the pans were melting. She said she had no where else to keep them. We've been married for 14 years, and I still check to see if something is in the oven before I turn it on, even though we have plenty of space for things. Some women aren't too bright.

                        • 4 votes
                        #3.14 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:51 PM EST

                        Twice:

                        Not to blame anyone but don't most people check to see if there's anything in an oven before turning it on. Especially in a strange home.

                        Yeah, foolish of her not to check to see if the oven was loaded.

                        • 2 votes
                        #3.15 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:11 PM EST

                        I always check our oven (and my mother's...) before turning it on because my husband often stores large pots in there (because they don't fit in the cabinets). And you never know what you might find in my mother's oven (God help us all). But I must say that I've never found bullets in there. Or a python. Guess I've been lucky! LOL!

                        • 3 votes
                        #3.16 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:54 PM EST

                        BP the grape

                        Are you f-n kidding me? You just called your wife stupid and the owner of the 'armed oven' was a guy. Let's see, store pots and pans in oven due to lack of cabinet space or store bullets in the oven??? And you just called your wife stupid...hope you're saving for a good divorce lawyer.

                        • 9 votes
                        #3.17 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:18 PM EST

                        Last time I checked in the oven, I found a 5 year old casserole my wife forgot about. It was probably more deadly than a bullet!

                        • 3 votes
                        #3.18 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:31 PM EST

                        Don't you just wonder where this guy stores his;....toothbrush, softball glove, razor, propane tanks, laundry, laptop, dog food, the dog, the cat, marijuana, false teeth, condoms, high school diploma.....well, the last two on the list he may not have and we know his father didn't use condoms.

                        • 1 vote
                        #3.19 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:37 PM EST

                        Maybe he got his bullets wet, and put them in there to dry.....

                        I guess it would be the thing to do..check the oven before turning it on. I have been 'Queen of the kitchen' for over 30 years, and never have I stored anything in the oven. However, our second household is a small, 1 BR apt, with very limited storage, and I am 'forced' to store my cast iron pans in there. So far I've been lucky, remembering to empty the oven before turning it on.

                        BP the grape, you really need to think BEFORE you type! You called your wife stupid. She married you. I guess you're right! lol

                        • 2 votes
                        #3.20 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:41 PM EST

                        It's always a good idea to double check before turning on the oven to make sure the racks are in the right position and that there isn't anything in there that shouldn't be. Especially since this was not her kitchen. Yes, you can move the racks around even when the oven is hot, but it's much easier when it's cold and you are not trying to put something in a preheated oven only to find that the racks are not in the right position-too high or too low.

                        • 2 votes
                        #3.21 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:13 PM EST

                        How did the phython get in the oven?!Im curious!!

                          #3.22 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:23 AM EST

                          SO he wasn't charged because he had a concealed weapons permit? What does THAT have to do with it?? He wasn't carrying the weapon concealed in public... and Florida allows you to own a gun that you keep in your house. A CCW permit merely allows you to carry a gun on your person- concealed- in public.

                          Not sure if this journalist understood what he/she was writing about!

                          • 2 votes
                          #3.23 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:52 AM EST

                          The times that I think to myself "I should really check the oven before I turn it on-- oh look a squirrel!" but then dont check are the times that I nearly burn the house down because the night before I decided it was a good idea to store an empty pizza box in there because the garbage is full or dry some socks in there because I dont have change for the dryer, a hair dryer will take too long and even though I already have a drawer full of dry socks I'll totally remember i put them in there....hind sight is 20/20 and like the saying goes when you ignore God's tap on the shoulder he'll shoot you with shrapnel.

                          My question is W(ho)TF store bullets in the oven? If he took the time to store the gun in one place and the magazine in another, why on earth would he stick the part that explodes in oven-like heat in the oven!?! It must be more common than we think if MythBusters had to do an episode on it.

                          To me it makes more sense to store the gun in the oven because if you're ever need to use it in your house you can stick the magazine in your pocket and nonchalantly walk over to your oven with the pretense that you're simply interrupting the confrontation to check on a pie that you were baking earlier. Reach in the oven for the "pie" pop the mag in and then Bobs your uncle...or better yet, store the mag in an oven mitt to really authenticate the ruse.

                          • 3 votes
                          #3.24 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:21 AM EST
                          Reply

                          Let me guess the boyfriend is a gun nut and a NRA member. This must have been a bad oven,if they had a good oven this would not have taken place.

                          • 6 votes
                          Reply#4 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:39 PM EST

                          Clearly the solution is to ban the "bad" ovens.

                          • 8 votes
                          #4.1 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:48 PM EST

                          Sorry, responsible gun owners ARE the NRA members. This person hasn't learned the proper storage or carry that a responsible gun owner learns before owning a gun.

                          • 4 votes
                          #4.2 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:02 PM EST

                          Anthonyvet, I'm a "gun nut" and a lifemember of NRA. I'll bet you $10 this guy is not a member.

                          • 6 votes
                          #4.3 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:03 PM EST

                          Sorry, responsible gun owners ARE the NRA members. This person hasn't learned the proper storage or carry that a responsible gun owner learns before owning a gun.

                          And yet he got a CCW permit. So much for "a well-regulated militia."

                          • 8 votes
                          #4.4 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:45 PM EST

                          Being a responsible gun owner has nothing to do with being a member of the NRA. I've read posts from responsible gun owners who will have nothing to do with the NRA as well as those who are life-long members. And the NRA's leadership seems pretty much concentrated on preventing any limits on gun ownership without caring if those owners are responsible.

                          • 11 votes
                          #4.5 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:54 PM EST

                          @ Anthonyvet

                          Hmmm...trying to figure out why you commented (in your idiotic manner) that the boyfriend was a "gun nut" and a "member of the NRA"...

                          as the article made no reference to any arsenal the boyfriend may have had, nor any affiliations with clubs, PACs, or other associations...

                          Typical liberal.... @^@

                          • 4 votes
                          #4.6 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:30 PM EST

                          It was a bad oven because it was carrying arms without a concealed carry permit. Any day now Mayor BloomingIdiot will announce plans to reduce oven capacity to a maximum of 7 bullets and then only with the proper permit.

                            #4.7 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:59 PM EST

                            Shows how well the back ground checks work. And I do check the oven before I turn it on. Kids and grand kids like to leave plastic toys in places like that. Once found my daughter teddy bear in the drawer in the fridge as well.

                            • 2 votes
                            #4.8 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:51 PM EST

                            Desperado-61942:

                            Anthonyvet, I'm a "gun nut" and a lifemember of NRA. I'll bet you $10 this guy is not a member.

                            It's always a safe bet that any random American gun owner is not a member of the NRA.

                            There are 100 million gun owners in the US. The NRA has 4 million American members.

                            96 gun owners out of every 100 are not NRA members. So, I'm guessing you can collect your $10

                            • 3 votes
                            #4.9 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:16 PM EST

                            In the last month or so the NRA has gained some 500,000 paying members.

                              #4.10 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:49 PM EST

                              In the last month or so the NRA has gained some 500,000 paying members.

                              but of course we have no way of telling how many people have run the other way like crazy. We won't know that en masse they just won't ever pay dues again.

                              I know plenty of gun owners who are scared to death of the NRA and think they are loons--many who will never be members again.

                              a half million nutters in a nation of 300+ million. Yeah, right. These people should be controlling the gun laws. You betcha.

                              • 3 votes
                              #4.11 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:44 AM EST

                              NRA propaganda.

                              • 1 vote
                              #4.12 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:41 PM EST
                              Reply

                              Didn't know ovens were used as gun storage.

                              • 5 votes
                              Reply#5 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:39 PM EST

                              They are when the fridge is full.

                              • 23 votes
                              #5.1 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:41 PM EST

                              ...and the space under the front porch is filled up with dogs (do you hear banjos playin'?)

                              • 9 votes
                              #5.2 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:49 PM EST

                              Exactly--what kind of mental midget puts ammo in the oven to store it?? A Rhodes scholar he ain't!!

                              • 4 votes
                              #5.3 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:58 PM EST

                              ok we all know he's not the brightest person in the world but I have to why would you turn the oven on the cook waffles?

                              • 3 votes
                              #5.4 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:19 PM EST

                              I'll bet the typical American doesn't even know what a whaffle iron is and thinks that waffles always come from the freezer. When the toaster is broken, the oven is a logical choice for these people.

                              • 3 votes
                              #5.5 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:58 PM EST

                              @ Dawnae ...

                              I have to why would you turn the oven on the cook waffles?

                              I do. Not to cook the waffles, but to keep them warm and crispy while my small waffle maker cooks enough of them to feed the familly all at once. :)

                              • 4 votes
                              #5.6 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:58 PM EST

                              dawnae:

                              ok we all know he's not the brightest person in the world but I have to why would you turn the oven on the cook waffles?

                              LMAO....great question!

                                #5.7 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:19 PM EST
                                Reply

                                Wow. What was this person thinking? "Let's see. I need to store the bullets separate from the gun. I have the perfect place for them - the oven."

                                While he was at it, he should've just stored his gasoline and aerosol cans in there as well.

                                • 21 votes
                                Reply#6 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:40 PM EST

                                Just goes to show he doesn't do much baking.

                                I have to admit. This is a new one on me.

                                • 2 votes
                                #6.1 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:55 PM EST

                                Even if you are going to use your oven as a ramshackle armory, perhaps the weapons themselves would be more suitable than ammunition itself. And certainly if one is going to put their ammo in the oven, they should at least warn house guests that, you know, theres ammo in the oven...

                                • 5 votes
                                #6.2 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:12 PM EST

                                If he's single, bet he doesn't cook!

                                  #6.3 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:49 PM EST

                                  single? clearly wifey was in the kitchen cookin up some waffles. But he probably @!$%# his pants when he heard them rounds explode

                                    #6.4 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:36 PM EST

                                    Story says it was a visitor that turned on the oven.

                                      #6.5 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:51 PM EST

                                      Bullets in the oven in a bachelor pad?? Sounds about right. His socks are probably in the refrigerator...

                                        #6.6 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:47 AM EST
                                        Reply

                                        And to think the boyfriend whose name was probably Gomer,Jethro or Clem,has a weapon. Another "responsible" gun owner.

                                        • 9 votes
                                        Reply#7 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:41 PM EST

                                        Again, Anthonyvet comes up with several other generalizations and insults and manages to tie them to his personal agenda against "responsible gun owners."

                                        • 5 votes
                                        #7.1 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:05 PM EST

                                        here we go again, this woman was NOT SHOT! she might have been hit with a fragmented bullet,

                                        their was NO GUN INVOLVED! But come he* or high water this will go down in the books as a shooting!

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #7.2 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:15 PM EST

                                        Or anthony

                                          #7.3 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:04 PM EST
                                          Reply

                                          Sandy told police he'd stored the gun in a drawer but had stored the magazine in the oven.

                                          Makes sense I guess, if you're a moron.

                                          • 13 votes
                                          Reply#8 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:41 PM EST

                                          When you never use an oven, it's a shame to let all that storage space go to waste.

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #8.1 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:02 PM EST
                                          Reply

                                          That's the dumbest place to store ammo I can think of! What an idiot!

                                          • 7 votes
                                          Reply#9 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:43 PM EST

                                          "Glock bullets"?

                                          • 15 votes
                                          Reply#10 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:43 PM EST

                                          It's NBC, don't expect too much.

                                          • 13 votes
                                          #10.1 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:51 PM EST

                                          Yep. I caught that one also. Didn't know they made bullets???????

                                          • 6 votes
                                          #10.2 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:56 PM EST

                                          Actually there are glock bullets they are .45 GAP Glock Automatic pistol. .45 ACP Automatic Colt Pistol. The difference between the two ,I could not tell you ,and there probably is no difference. But the gun owner is a dummy to put them in the oven. He should have put them in his heater! Get it !Ha Ha

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #10.3 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:04 PM EST

                                          More than one way to read/interpret that, though it is not brilliant wording. I took it to mean bullets for a Glock, not Glock-brand bullets. Like Toyota air filter might not be a filter made by Toyota but merely for one.

                                          • 4 votes
                                          #10.4 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:06 PM EST

                                          Likely the article was written by someone who appears to think guns and compatible ammo are brand specific, but they could have just meant "the glocks' bullets", implying the weapon held ownership of the ammo XD

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #10.5 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:25 PM EST

                                          dubsak20 - there is a difference: GAP ammunition has a shorter casing.

                                            #10.6 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:42 PM EST

                                            please........as bugs bunny says........what a maroon

                                              #10.7 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:54 PM EST

                                              Well apparently SOMENE is reading these comments ;) ,.. as it appears to have been edited. good job, author or editor

                                                #10.8 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:39 PM EST

                                                cameron:

                                                Give'em a break - they had to edit more than one sentence.

                                                  #10.9 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:41 AM EST
                                                  Reply

                                                  Never heard of making waffles in the oven.

                                                  • 7 votes
                                                  Reply#11 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:43 PM EST

                                                  You warm the oven to hold the cooked waffles until all are ready to go. Except at my house - I only can eat one ata a time and I live alone.

                                                  • 7 votes
                                                  #11.1 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:50 PM EST

                                                  I would store my ammo in an oven before I'd make waffles in it :)

                                                  • 4 votes
                                                  #11.2 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:54 PM EST

                                                  since i havent eaten a frozen waffle in eons I cant be certain, but I would assume that the directions for heating the waffles would offer the prehistoric and slower method of an oven if someone wasnt too ADHD and could wait it out.

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #11.3 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:59 PM EST

                                                  I'm willing to bet this is a toaster oven. My toaster oven has a dial without numbers on it, don't know why. Probably made in China. Shame on me.

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #11.4 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:44 PM EST

                                                  A toaster can be bought for $10 at Walmart. Works perfectly for heating frozen waffles.

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #11.5 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:53 PM EST
                                                  Reply

                                                  Wait...who makes waffles in the oven?

                                                  • 3 votes
                                                  Reply#12 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:44 PM EST

                                                  ...when there is no toaster or it's broken....

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #12.1 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:50 PM EST

                                                  Toaster? thats not a waffle. Thats cardboard for suckers who will settle for crap as long as its sweet.

                                                  • 3 votes
                                                  #12.2 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:56 PM EST

                                                  Wait....who stores ammo in the oven? Would be fascinating to hear exactly how some of us arrive at our conclusions. Would likely resemble Marx Brothers repartee.

                                                    #12.3 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:44 AM EST
                                                    Reply

                                                    When ovens are outlawed, only outlaws will have ovens.

                                                    • 13 votes
                                                    Reply#13 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:45 PM EST

                                                    They can have my oven when they pry it from my cold dead hands… No, wait… The oven would keep my hands warm… Never mind...

                                                    • 9 votes
                                                    #13.1 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:39 PM EST
                                                    Reply

                                                    Would the same thing happen in a microwave?

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    Reply#14 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:46 PM EST

                                                    I bet it would arc first before it got hot enough but maybe we should ask the Mythbusters to test it out.

                                                    • 10 votes
                                                    #14.1 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:51 PM EST

                                                    I agree...it would be excellent for Mythbusters to try this out on multiple types of ammunition in the Microwave.

                                                    • 6 votes
                                                    #14.2 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:18 PM EST

                                                    I agree...it would be excellent for Mythbusters to try this out on multiple types of ammunition in the Microwave.

                                                    Too true. Those guys love blowing things up. And it's always fun to watch.

                                                      #14.3 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:13 PM EST
                                                      Reply

                                                      Who makes waffles in the oven?

                                                      • 2 votes
                                                      Reply#15 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:48 PM EST

                                                      Didn't you read any of the posts before ?

                                                      This question has been asked and answered many times already.

                                                      Could be :

                                                      - toaster broken or no toaster at all.

                                                      - to keep waffles warm until she they were all cooked.

                                                      - girl has the same IQ has guy who store ammo in the oven.

                                                      What's troubling is all the peoples who can't figure out why she might have used the oven, if you can't figure that out by yourself then please, don't buy any ammo.

                                                      • 3 votes
                                                      #15.1 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:35 PM EST

                                                      Who in the heck eats waffles late at night?

                                                      Women aren't too bright. I'll bet the toaster is sitting right next to the oven. Nobody is going to buy frozen waffles if they don't own a toaster. And she was heard to say she wanted some waffles, which meant she was making them for her self. There was no reason to keep them warm if they were for her. Had she informed her boyfriend she was turning on the oven, he would have told her not to do it.

                                                      • 1 vote
                                                      #15.2 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:59 PM EST

                                                      jo:

                                                      The desperation continues.......

                                                        #15.3 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:46 AM EST
                                                        Reply

                                                        "Woman shot by oven while trying to cook waffles."

                                                        So much for background checks...you know society has devolved when even ovens can get their "mitts" on firearms, shoot and kill people.

                                                        MSNBC, how about "A woman was shot while trying to cook waffles." or "A woman was shot near the oven while trying to cook waffles."

                                                        • 2 votes
                                                        Reply#16 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:50 PM EST

                                                        Except that she wasn't shot at all, the projectiles of the bullets where never fired, the casing simply exploded.

                                                        "Exploding ammo in oven injures woman" would have been the honest headline.

                                                        • 13 votes
                                                        #16.1 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:54 PM EST

                                                        Because that's the first rule of journalism. You make a title that gets the readers attention and makes them want to read the article.

                                                        • 3 votes
                                                        #16.2 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:56 PM EST

                                                        If you'd read the story you'd see she was shot by the oven. No one had a gun, they shot out of the oven.

                                                        • 3 votes
                                                        #16.3 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:57 PM EST

                                                        She wasn't shot by a firearm. Just the bullets.

                                                        • 2 votes
                                                        #16.4 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:58 PM EST

                                                        She wasn't shot by the bullets either.

                                                        The magazine exploded about 9 p.m. ET, spraying casing fragments at high speed and striking Walker.

                                                        Notice CASING FRAGMENTS? It doesn't say bullets hit her,anywhere in the article.

                                                        • 2 votes
                                                        #16.5 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:32 PM EST

                                                        See it is the bullets not the guns that are causing the problems, there right.

                                                          #16.6 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:54 PM EST
                                                          Reply

                                                          Should have been charged with being an idiot. Where have all the defenders of storing your ammo in an oven gone?

                                                          • 5 votes
                                                          Reply#17 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:51 PM EST

                                                          They are here, they are the ones asking why the victim needed to make waffles in the oven.

                                                          Like that lessen the guy's stupidity and lack of common sense.

                                                          • 2 votes
                                                          #17.1 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:40 PM EST

                                                          jo:

                                                          She turned on the oven. Happens every once in a while here in America - I'd guess several million times a day.

                                                          He put ammunition in the oven. He's an idiot by any standard.

                                                            #17.2 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:52 AM EST
                                                            Reply

                                                            Why would her need a concealed weapons permit for owning a firearm in his own house?... maybe I'm missing something here.

                                                            • 4 votes
                                                            Reply#18 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:52 PM EST

                                                            Because it's concealed in the house, now they want it on the roof of the house with a big sign!

                                                            • 2 votes
                                                            #18.1 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:56 PM EST

                                                            Yes you are plenty of brain cells!

                                                              #18.2 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:38 PM EST

                                                              Haha so true bubba

                                                              • 1 vote
                                                              #18.3 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:05 PM EST

                                                              bubba:

                                                              We all have an eye out for 'they'. Soon they'll want to license your oven control knob. I think they're 'channeling' Hugo Chavez.

                                                                #18.4 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:55 AM EST
                                                                Reply

                                                                WHY? It doesn't make sense to store the ammunition so far away from the weapon. I can see it now..."Hey, Home Intruder, pay no attention to this gun in my hand. Let me just get some...say, do you like waffles?"

                                                                • 6 votes
                                                                Reply#19 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:52 PM EST

                                                                he was clearly drying it off from all the purple drank he spilled on it @ the club

                                                                  #19.1 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:09 PM EST
                                                                  Reply

                                                                  Idiots with guns. Says it all.

                                                                  • 7 votes
                                                                  Reply#20 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:52 PM EST

                                                                  Idiots with loaded ovens. Says it all.

                                                                  • 1 vote
                                                                  #20.1 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:59 PM EST
                                                                  Reply

                                                                  If they had a "good" oven it could have stopped the "bad" oven said Wayne Lapierre.

                                                                  • 7 votes
                                                                  Reply#21 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:52 PM EST

                                                                  I read this article because I was convinced the headline was poorly punctuated, well darn this time they got it right.

                                                                  • 2 votes
                                                                  Reply#22 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:52 PM EST

                                                                  Me too Holly. When I read that she was shot by the oven, I thought it meant she was standing by the oven and maybe a bullet came through a window or something.

                                                                  • 1 vote
                                                                  #22.1 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:59 PM EST

                                                                  here we go again, this woman was NOT SHOT! she might have been hit with a fragmented bullet,

                                                                  their was NO GUN INVOLVED! But come he* or high water this will go down in the books as a shooting!

                                                                  • 1 vote
                                                                  #22.2 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:20 PM EST

                                                                  No, wonka (interesting choice of names), some of us will insist it was a 'home appliance failure' due to 'operator error'. I mean, how can anyone argue that she was not at fault - she turned on the oven? No caps....pretty good, huh?

                                                                    #22.3 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:01 AM EST
                                                                    Reply

                                                                    Numb nuts! You don't put explosives in the feckin oven!!! An old story about a miner who couldn't cook, stored his dynamite in the stove, but a friend came over and decided to cook supper. You know the outcome. Ovens are for cooking, not storage.

                                                                    • 1 vote
                                                                    Reply#23 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:52 PM EST

                                                                    back:

                                                                    As incredible as it may seem, some of us seem to find the moral of this story more than a bit mysterious. We have what, 315 million guns in this country, and maybe 15 million rational thinkers? Every day we see the results of this imbalance.

                                                                    • 1 vote
                                                                    #23.1 - Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:06 AM EST
                                                                    Reply

                                                                    Obviously the boyfriends brain must be concealed: in his a s s.

                                                                    • 4 votes
                                                                    Reply#24 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:53 PM EST

                                                                    The oven was just resisting tyranny.

                                                                    • 7 votes
                                                                    Reply#25 - Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:55 PM EST
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