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Subscribe to RSSPolice are investigating how a 5-year-old boy was shot in the shoulder in his home in The Bronx, New York City, Friday, authorities said.
The boy's mother and father were in their bedroom in Morrisania when they heard a pop noise shortly after 10:30 a.m., police said.
They rushed to their 5-year-old son's room and found him shot.
Police said it was not clear if the boy accidentally shot himself or if his 11-year-old brother accidentally shot him.
The father drove the boy to nearby Lincoln Hospital, where he was listed in stable condition.
The investigation was continuing.
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Probably a cop...
or a "rent-a-cop"....
Gee, my guns have never shot a human being, and neither has any of my families weapons. Nor has most of the weapon owners guns been shot at a human being.
But that doesn't stop the anti-gun nuts one bit. An armed society is a polite society, or so it is said. But I do know that being armed is one way to make sure no punks can harm you or your loved ones. And I am still debating on weather to put a sign in my front yard stating my neighbor has a "gun free" policy at her home, and have an arrow pointing to their house.
Plus I will have a sign made up that says, "FORGET the dog, BEAWARE of the .40 cal the homeowner has". I wonder which house would be broken into first? Ten to one it won't be mine.
SallyAnn
I you are 100% correct.
Criminals look for victims of opportunity and they weigh risk and reward. Breaking in an harming you and your family definitely riskier for them than breaking into and harming your unarmed neighbor.
Then again I've only worked in law enforcement and criminal justice for 30+ years so I'm sure Chris Mathews and Bob Costas are mush more knowledgeable on the subject.
Sally Ann, Yes I believe that was what Mrs. Lanza said, ...er, would have said. I expect this family would say the same thing. Luck is on your side so far.
You remind me of the pregnant teen who thought, "It can't happen to me, not just one without birth control," as she decides what to do now that she is pregnant.
Evidence is that liberals in states with strict gun laws perpetrate the most shootings. Overwhelming evidence in the last several shootings is "all liberal" criminals.
We need to ban guns from ever being owned by liberals.
How was he shot? He was shot because his idiot parents had unsecured guns in a home with two small children. What the F is wrong with people?
You should be the reporter on this story. Your're good at making up tales.
OonaOona
Look in a mirror and say this:
Mirror mirror on the wall,
Who's the biggest idiot of all.
Wait for the response YOU ARE OonaOona
PLEASE show me exactly WHERE in the article it noted it was the parents firearm. Do you know the BRONX? Do you know that 11 year olds, and yes even 5 year olds are recruited by street scum gangs? Do you know that there ARE 11 year olds carrying illegal firearms around NYC withour mom or dad knowing?
Arizona Tumbleweed, I think he is a reporter LOL.
In the Bronx an 11 yr old is more likely to have a gun than any adult. Anyone who has ever been there knows they don't ever want to go back.
Ahhhh. New York, New York.....
EVERY STORY involving the negative use of fire arms will be used to build and build and build an irrational fear of THE only tool that prevents the loss of ALL of our AMERICAN CIVIL RIGHTS.
The agenda is apparent.
The mother and father need to be held totally accountable for not securing their gun in their house. You can not hold responsible gun owners accountable for this failure. That would be like taking everyone's car keys away because some fool ran a red light and caused an accident.
EXACTLY where does it say it was the parents?
Don't know the BRONX very well do you.
XDm9mm,
I'd love to play poker with you...,and clean you out. You are terrible at bluffing or maybe just a consummate bs'er. either way quite entertaining, though very transparent.
Kamaaina,
I would love to have a discussion with you.....face to face...and correct your terminal ignorance. And I am only meaning talking; this is not a veiled threat of any kind...except to your ego. An audience would be nice, though, to watch you go down in defeat.
I invite you to come and see me. I am old and weak and not much money. You will have to come here to the MidWest. We can talk. I can correct you.
What do you say?
Kamaaina
Please. Anytime.
Kamaaina
Actually, it might not be a bad idea. I normally don't gamble, but I do play several variants of poker with friends and/or family.
Invariably, I win, but don't keep their money. I have enough to not need it.
However, considering I do in fact beat my brother who is a ranked gambler, it would be interesting. He's been in several World Championship poker series, so I gather you have similar credentials.
Of course beating you would only be recouping what you reap in public assistance stipends, so I might in fact keep my money in lieu of allowing you to keep it.
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To all you idiot anti gun morons. We have a Obesity problem you ding dongs don't focus on. Why is that?! More kids die from diabetes than guns. More kids are killed by drunks, drugs and other forms of violence but you morons can only focus on guns. WHY IS THAT!? Must be the Liberal in you. Can't see your own nose infront of your face.
Well said. The anti gun morons have the news media on their side, just like King and Queen Obummers. I fear it's going to get worse before it ever has any chance of improving.
Have none of you heard of personal freedom? What kind of a state dares to tell someone they're too fat?
tom343...
Actually would that not be Mayor Bloomberg of NYC? He's into some many "causes" he doesn't know he's supposed to be running a city.
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This is sad. I hope the child recovers fully and quickly.
It seems to me that we ought to be able to come up with sensible rules concerning guns like making it a requirement to register them (heck we do it with cars) to try to make our society a little safer without making our fellow citizens feel threatened who want to own a gun for protection, hunting, or sporting purposes.
Mike..
Cars are a privilege, like driving. They are granted and denied or revoked at the whim of the state. Firearms are a RIGHT as guaranteed by the Constitution.
No one who posts here, including you, doesn't know what XDm9mm said is true. What could be your agenda be in repeating such rot?
This is a prime example of parents who have a gun in the house and their children know where it is. In the article is states it is not known who shot who. The parent should be held accountable for the shooting. These parents thought since they have a gun in the house their sons won't find it. Well they did and the gun went off. The artcle didn't mention how the was purchased or it the gun was bought legally or illegally. The government run liberal will never report that. So now this little boy is in the hospital fighting for his life while his parents should've have known that a gun is not a toy and that their sons shouldn't have found the gun.
I could go on about New York's gun laws but in this case it's the parents fault. When ever there is a shooting where small children are involved it's the parents fault because they didn't do their job in protecting their children. There are going to be people who have guns in the house and say to themselves that this will never happen in my house. This is something that no can predict. In the case of these parents they were using the logic that having a gun in the house that nothing will happen well they were wrong and one of their sons is in the hospital. Sometimes parents can be really stupid.
Please educate me. I read the article and found NO indication that it was the firearm of EITHER parent.
Have you stopped to consider that NEITHER parent even knew the firearm was in the house? Have you stopped to consider that either the 5 year old or the 11 year old brought the gun in from outside the home without the parents knowledge? Have you stopped to consider that one or possibly both of the boys have already been recruited by some street scum gang?
So, to paraphrase you...
Sometimes, Newsvine posters can be really stupid.
Ernie,
Fighting for his life in stable condition! Drama much?
I just searched the NY Times, couldn't find any information regarding this incident. Lots of stories about shootings in other states............
NY Daily news has a report with much more info. The boy was sitting up playing video games in the hospital, flesh wound in the meaty part of shoulder.
Father was arrested on gun violations and child endangerment charges after trying to BS his way out of trouble - "the boy was shot during an attempted robbery outside a check-cashing . . ."
The story is fake ! Everyone knows NYC has gun controll laws and bans that eliminated all the guns from the city.
a silent prayer for those involved
NBC:
Steadily pounding the drum now every time some moron misbehaves with a gun.
Agenda-driven twits, nothing more.
http://gunssavelives.net
@ juvenile arsenal-amassers, NRA-type gun-whore$ & pro$titutue$ for the gun maker$, and Rambo-wannabes....
And, the usual gun-goobers come out with their far-lined talking points-- while trying to wrap themselves into their twisted version of the 2nd Amend.
Agenda-driven twits, nothing more.
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
You tell me which words are troubling you, and I will help.
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I guess the 11 year old was part of our well regulated militia..........
@ Steven B...
After you tell me WHICH state, federal, or local militia you 're in. And rank, where, duties to shot at what gov't officials, and I will help.
C_D -
I doubt you have ever read your state Constitution (did you even know there is one?) - you shoulld, as many of them define the militia.
@C_D_J55.
James Mason, for your edification was the principal author of the Bill of Rights, of which the 2nd amendment is part. He was also one of the predominant writers of the US Constitution.
So, yes, per the principal author of the Bill of Rights, I am in fact part of the militia.
This is what I have been talking about. Too many irresponsible people have guns and their kids are getting shot or the adults are shooting each other or their children when they are emotional. I don't want to take guns away from people who are responsible and use them for a purpose. I don't think assault rifles have a purpose and I believe it should be hard to acquire guns so idiots who can't even take care of themselves, can't get their hands on them.
You are right............ we should ban guns for all Democrats.. they don't have the capacity nor do they want any responsibility.
All you professional DNC apparatchiks; the technique is not convincing and is using valuable resources. Those bits and bytes and electrons and Gauss's and MIPs are precious and ought not be tossed away. By the way, why doesn't the DNC trust the people?
i have a problem with guns,,,,i dont have enough, i need to get me a CWP and a hand gun to go with it,especialy these days with all the phucked up people around these days shooting others. I have a 22 semi auto rifle with 2- 30 round clips taped back to back. I also have a 12 pump that somehow holds 6 not 3, hmmm i guess i took the plug out 15-20 years ago and somehow lost it. A few of us use to go out bird hunting back in the day, a few of us use to go out shooting targets,cans whatever we thought was cool, does that make me a nut with guns, phuck no, do i have CONTROL over my guns YES, my guns are put away and i dont remember that last time i had them out, oh last year when we went camping,i allways take them incase of maniacs in the mountains,ill never go camping without my guns ever again. So to all you phucktards that cry that we need the gov. to help with gun control. phuck off
Ignorant gun-ghouls - you show more emotion over the shooting of a couple of mutts than you do over small children.
Hoplophobes are always amusing!
Repub,
Do you burst into tears at every auto accident where a child loses there life? If not, are you a car ghoul. Bad stuff happens. If it's an accident, try to learn from it. If it's not an accident, go to a TRUE ROOT CAUSE and try to fix it.
Repub - Dumbass.
This is not a problem with guns, it is a problem with people not taking responsibility. If you have a gun it should be put away in a cabinet preferrably locked. Didn't sound like an ilegal rifle that was used. This country has had guns for over 200 years as part of our culture, and when they are treated correctly and used with respect they are not a problem.
With responsibility comes accountability. The parents should be put in prison. When guns are not used with respect and responsibility it endangers my family. I have a problem with that.
11madness and BigRK,
Are we even sure where this firearm came from?
Does it make a difference where it came from? Either stupid gun owner at home or 11 year old had access to gun from some other stupid gun owner.
11madness,
Or a criminal who illegally purchased it recruited him and gave it to him. I am not saying that there may not be negligence but let's see before we cast stones, hmm? My dad used to let me handle his firearms anytime while supervised and made it clear that he would put his foot up my ass if I handled them unsupervised. As far as children are concerned, have you ever child proofed your house? You might be suprised at how difficualt that can be.
Great for you and your Dad. However, it you did get dads gun and killed a neighbors kid by accident then I assume that you would support your Dad being held accountable including time in the big house? Child proofing your house against child self injury regarding elect plugs, toilet, furniture falling, etc is a big job. Child proofing guns? Not so difficult. If a person chooses to own a gun with children in the household then that is his choice. If he however does not prevent his gun from being avail to his child that it a whole different issue. That will endanger my child.
I agree that it would be a breakdown in parenting/adulthood. And yes, he would have been civilly liable, perhaps criminally prosecuted (child endangerment etc.). What I objecting to is you painting us gun owners with one brush (69.3)!
Irresponsible gun owners.... Your child gets your gun and shoots my child........you should go to jail for a long time. Accountablity.
To follow up:
Even household whose guns are under lock and key can have children which find the key and unlock the guns. There is nothing foolproof on this planet. I agree that if no precautions are taken, liabilities exist. For the record, all of my guns are under combination lock aor biometric readout. This is why I object to being painted with your broad strokes brush.
Hooops....you are not irresponsible. For the third time my comments are directed toward stupid irresponsible gun owners. Your comment regarding kids getting the keys has not bearing. If I have young kids and I choose to have guns in the house then it is my absolute responsibility to prevent the kids from accessing those guns. My neighbors kids live depend upon it.
By the way, I like guns. I like to target shoot. However, I have little kids. I dont have any guns in the house. It is not that complicated. A gun is lethal and portable. They require the untlimate safeguards. If a gun owner cannnot live up to that level of responsibility then they should not own them. The gun owner should be held strictly criminally liable for allowing kids access.
This is national news ..... why?
edog........Agree not news at all. Just another stupid gun owner endangering his family and society in general......not news because ignorant gun owners are everywhere.
11Madness,
Can we agree that there are ignorant people are everywhere and some of them own firearms? Or are you saying all firearms owners are ignorant and negligent. If you are, please explain the statistcs that support this based on the number of guns in this country.
My comments are directed toward IRRESPONSIBLE gun owners. They should be held criminally responsible for the use of their guns. Any argument?
Nope but you have not been clear with posts like "Just another stupid gun owner endangering his family and society in general......not news because ignorant gun owners are everywhere."
Another "stupid" gun owner.....not all gun owners. They do appear to be everywhere. I am not saying take anyones guns away. I am saying that if i own a gun and my kid shoots your kid with my gun, then I should go to jail for a long time. Any argument.
I've never seen so much energy wasted posting comments on bad reporting. Have any of you bothered to notice the lack of details? We don't even know if it was nothing more than than a damned BB or pellet gun, and now all the posting is about gun control. They did this on purpose, ladies and gentlemen. Maybe we should ban NBC for playing on our collective fears with a story about a "shooting" with zero details or facts. It's bad journalism just to get a rise out of people about a highly polarized topic for their own sick amusement.
Police never release the type of weapon until days later. Are you suggesting that news organizations should wait days to report news? Nonsense.
11madness,
But above in 70.1 you say it is not news. Which is it? Could it be the news media is trying to keep a gun control debate alive that is losing steam?
No...I'm saying they should wait until they have enough facts to write an informative article. This article is hardly news at all. For all we know, dad might be a carpenter, and they got ahold of his cordless nail gun, and not a firearm at all. The article just states that he was "shot", but nothing about what he was shot with. Now we have a bunch of people spewing ignorance on both sides of a gun control debate in a discussion about an article that can't even back itself up. THAT, my friend, is nonsense. ;)
My argument saying it is not "news" is a comment about how frequent this type of stupid stuff happens. A little sarcasm.
Really? Got any stats on the frequency, it's distribution (normal or not) etc. I think the frequency has been blown out of proporation based on a media agenda to keep a dying debate alive. And based on the tenor of your posts, you seem to have it in for all of us gun owners.
Hoops.....i like guns. I like to shoot steel targets. Also firing range shooting is ok, but a little boring. But it is all to frequent that little kids get killed with owners guns.....or deranged teen agers get moms gun and kill. These gun owners bear responsibility. If gun owners in these situations are sent to jail then it will send a message to all gun owners to be responsible.
Seems like we had a rational discourse are are in general agreement. I think jail time would be dependent on the level of negligence. Let's wait and see what facts come out here. As far as frequency, I still think these are isolated occurences.
Please take note of how there is never any completely non-informative article on here about all the drunk drivers who have killed another family overnight, of how many of them are repeat offenders driving on a suspended license, or how if a sober person happens to drive recklessly and cause a fatal accident we should immediately ban them for life from driving. Yet guns are unfailingly described as evil in the media and we should all throw the second amendment away without pause because of the great danger they represent. Never mind the fact that armed citizenry decided to rise up against what was viewed an oppressive power to secure their freedom and establish this country and that those same men saw fit to guarantee that right to future Americans. Perhaps we can look at the numerous dictatorial states around the world and ask their populations what means of resistance they have because the state has the sole option to execute force when it chooses. History is a great inconvenience for those who continue to try and take away the second amendment.
What would their reaction be if the government decided to alter the first amendment because numerous government and media studies are indicating that inflammatory speech is leading to increased rates of violence among Americans and we need to take steps to further protect them from themselves? Maybe the 4th amendment should be next so the government can randomly search anyone's home without cause. Because hey, as the argument goes, if you're not doing anything wrong why should you be opposed to it? Then we can move right along to getting rid of the third and start posting government government forces in your home to make sure you're doing everything ok, because after all, it's the government; they truly know best what you need. Perhaps farcical; but when you start down that road, where do you draw the line? You may view that right as unnecessary and even a risk, but what right of yours does someone else view as frivolous and unnecessary of protection?
Wrong. Vehicle homicide stories typically do not give details. The speed of the Dallas Cowboy dui fatality that happened weeks ago was just released a couple of days ago. News organizations atttempt to balance speed of delivery of news with accuracy and completeness......no matter what the subject of the story happens to be. Nice try though.
News organizations do not try to attempt to balance ANYTHING!
They either slant the stories to reflect their editorial opinion or they delete them if they can't slant them.
The parent owner of the gun should be in jail. For at least a year. They lost control of their gun and they essentially abused the child that was shot.
True if indeed the gun was the parents. If people want to own a gun then they are accountable for its use imo......jail time is appropriate.
Just another MSM story trolling for reactions...just another way to further seperate the people of this country and destroy it from the inside and you are all falling for it. They gave you just enough info to start a debate in the comments as it was intended to spark yet another argument and it appears to have worked yet again. You people are such puppets!
They really are, aren't they? LOL There are more words in some of these posts than are in that article.:)
And if you don't agree with the above posts, use Google to access other sites reporting with MUCH more info, reported BEFORE this "article" was posted.
Davey
You need to look at your statistics. Just because I didn't shoot the intruder does not mean that my use of a gun did not protect me. Why do I need to shoot the person if just by showing my gun, he stops. You equate the number of intruders shot compared to number of family members shot as the proper statistic. Ask any police man how many times they have stopped a crime by pulling their gun but never pulling the trigger? Liberals think that if I pull a gun, I have to kill soemone.
Keley
Where in the MSN article does it say the parents owned the gun?
It doesn't. Nor does it say if it was a firearm he was shot with. I remember when actual reporting didn't involve opinion or speculation...the good old days!:)
This from NBC Channel 4 in NYC