Fort Lauderdale day care marred by fire, swastikas; owners allege hate crime

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MIAMI -- Bishop Ivory Wilson on Sunday gazed on the shattered window of a building that serves as a church on the weekend and as a day care during the week.

There is the charred cafeteria where children would eat their snacks. A roof is now blackened with soot. It's just feet away from where students learn and play at the day care center.

"We worked hard to make this,” Wilson said. “The kids love us, the parents love us and we love them.”

Director Sandra Wilson said: “This just broke my heart, I couldn't stop crying -- couldn't stop crying.” 

They say they believe the fire was deliberately set, given the vandalism spray-painted on the walls: three large red swastikas. 

The owners of Little Leapers Childcare center in Fort Lauderdale say it’s a hate crime. In the last few weeks, employees say they also have been on the receiving end of a verbal threat. 

Three weeks before the fire, an anonymous someone phoned “and threatened us,” said Joyce Bryant, lead schoolteacher. The caller told staff to pack their bags and get out, Bryant said.

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When that call came in, the bishop and his wife contacted police. Sunday, instead of singing and praising in the auditorium, they're tallying up items that were stolen: Cameras, music equipment and flat-screen TVs used to live-stream sermons.

"Here we've got parents that won't know where to take their kids tomorrow morning," Wilson said.

They've been present in the community now for more than four years. They can’t understand why they’ve been attacked.

"We think everyone should be able to run their own business without anyone trying to run them out," Bryant said.

The bishop said vacating the building is the last thing they'll do, unwilling to let hatred win.

"We're not going to run,” he said. “Whatever game they're playing doesn't frighten me.”

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Why put a Swastika sign in a Church ? That does not make sense. So this was not anti-Semitic...it was what? There are screwed up people in Florida who hate everybody...and there are minorities who hate other minorities. Or is someone doing this vandalism and then trying to pin it on someone else? All kinds of strange stuff. Glad the kids are okay. Be safe everyone.

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#1 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:59 AM EST

I would think a Doctor would be more educated and aware of recent history. The Nazis did not only hate and discriminate against the Jews. And there are screwed up people everywhere. This is Satan's world.

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#1.1 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:44 AM EST

Latino gang bangers have put swastikas on my front porch, the local police have seen it and done nothing. I guess LATINOS are allowed to commit HATE CRIMES against white Americans.

Were you able to demonstrate precisely who had painted the swastikas, or were you expecting them to arrest somebody based upon you suspicions?

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#1.4 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:20 AM EST

Why put a Swastika sign in a Church ? That does not make sense. So this was not anti-Semitic...

This sounds like the work of mindless vandals, not of some fringe political groups. They probably painted swastikas because they couldn't remember how to spell most of four-letter words typical of their work.

Ugly crime.

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#1.5 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:21 AM EST
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Comment author avatarbob-2579213Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

or..... Joe Biden was involved!

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#1.8 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:48 AM EST

Or the negative was reversed in the enlarger

If you watch the video clip you can see that the swastikas are pinted in reverse, Specifically the part where it shows the part of the building with the sign Ming Arts Academy you can clearly see that this is not a flipped negative and that they actually made them backwards.

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#1.9 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:53 AM EST
Comment author avatarbob-2579213Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

and it does look like Joe Bidin's handwriting too!

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#1.10 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:59 AM EST

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."

We know where you fit Bob, less than average.

Why do you post such obviously stupid things?

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#1.11 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:06 AM EST

With this little of information the article is useless.

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#1.12 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:07 AM EST

Latino gang bangers have put swastikas on my front porch, the local police have seen it and done nothing. I guess LATINOS are allowed to commit HATE CRIMES against white Americans.

You, my friend, are an idiot.

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#1.13 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:08 AM EST

G'Morning Lost...

Very good observation dude....

These Neo-Nazi MF'rs are afraid to do it anywhere else. They pick on little kids who can't fight back.

Yeah, they're sooooo bad man! Idiots...

Tiredoflosers

With this little of information the article is useless.

#1.12 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:07 AM EST

Just curios but why do you even come here to read senseless crap etc... (as you put it)/ I see a lot of your posts and all you mostly do is bash MSN but just today I've been to 3 stories and in two of them, you're bashing MSN.

Just curious man...

In the past I "have" seen some of your posts and they're ok.

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#1.14 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:09 AM EST

they pissed somebody off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#1.15 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:42 AM EST
Comment author avatarlee-936758Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Pedophile (D- N.J.) Senator Menendez likes young children, you might be on to something there with the Porto Rican gangs. ( La Joto)

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#1.16 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:43 AM EST

People are putting meaning where there may be none. The vandals might just put up swastikas because it's fast and it's "means" something.

How can you even know?

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#1.17 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:44 AM EST

Gee, if the swastikas are painted backwards maybe this entire situation is a set up! Just remember all of the fake "hate crimes" we have seen in the last decade or so. Tawana Brawley, anyone?!

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#1.18 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:45 AM EST
Comment author avatartrust2112Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Check the Southern Baptists down the road. I've never met a more hateful, backwoods religious group than Christianity. Shameful that Jesus is the only homeless person the Republicans will ever claim to love...

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#1.19 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:45 AM EST
Comment author avatarDan M-1100664Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Gee, and your assumptive post is any more "backwoods and hateful"! Must be nice to be a liberal..... Just insult the closest non-liberal group, say you are better, and do your "superiority dance"!

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#1.20 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:49 AM EST

@Anne Stewart

I hope the police are looking for evidence of insurance fraud. They probably owe more than the place was worth, and were probably not bringing in enough benjamins. $100 says they torched the place.

Hey, I got the contact information for you.

Fort Lauderdale Police Department
1300 W. Broward Boulevard
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33312
(954) 828-5700

You need to give them a call and provide them with your expertise on what they should be focusing on. We sure don't want them wasting time exploring the chance that it wasn't an inside job, right? With your help they should have this solved quickly and those frauds locked up tight.

Right?

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#1.21 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:54 AM EST

The bashing on these blogs need to stop. Seriously, why do people feel that their First Amendment Right is a priviledge to bash others and continue on with bullying? And then people wonder why bullying is an issue among grammar school kiss, middle school, high school and even college students.

If you do not like the reporting of websites then stay off and don't read them. No one is holding a gun to your head to read the stories of news media outlets you don't like...or are they?

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#1.22 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:55 AM EST
Comment author avatarDan M-1100664Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Here we go again..... When liberals start to lose a debate they change the term to "bullying" in order to make themselves feel better! If you do not want to have political discourse, please limit yourself to the score section of the sports section of the paper! (I would not look at anything with "words" because even the sports columnists seem to be wacked out liberals).

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#1.23 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:19 AM EST
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Another example of....drum roll please...HONKIES ARE EVIL !!!

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#1.24 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:20 AM EST

I hope they find people responsible for this awful act and punish them most severely... it is sickening...

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#1.25 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:23 AM EST

Good Morning Creek Dog,

These Neo-Nazi MF'rs are afraid to do it anywhere else. They pick on little kids who can't fight back.

Yeah, they're sooooo bad man! Idiots...

assuming that is was in fact neo nazis, the backwards swastika suggests someone who is not familiar with the direction a swastika faces.

Another example of....drum roll please...HONKIES ARE EVIL !!!

Oh hateful one, Please show us exactly where in the article it indicates a specific individual or group of individuals are responsible for this crime...Oh I get it you are making assumptions based on your racism.

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#1.26 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:30 AM EST

Ashley,

Good grief.

No, swastikas do not always point to the right. They can be either way depending on who is making them. Indeed, "right pointing" swastikas are Nazi symbols but other groups have used them as well. A "backwards" swastika was used by some American Indians as a peace symbol.

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#1.27 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:34 AM EST

Actually the symbol is not of nazi origin. it was adopted by the nazi party and in fact to properly reflect the one used by the nazi party, the symbol should be rotated so that the outter lines are at a 45° angle. The symbol shown can be drawn either to the left or right and both would be correct. Also the original symbol had dots between the arm and is still used today in hinduism as a symbol meaning "to be good" or "being with the higher self".

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#1.29 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:42 AM EST

It is legit to question the Swastika as Nazi hate symbol in this instance as they are reversed from the direction the Nazis used them. It could be a hate group or it could be the owners involved in insurance fraud. My guess is it was garden variety vandals/arsonists who ignorantly left the symbol to be cool or to throw the police off the track. None of us know for certain though. Hopefully the police will catch the perps, regardless of their identity and motivations.

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#1.30 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:47 AM EST

Left pointing swastikas go back to the Chinese, as well as India, native American tribes used them as well, these are sacred symbols of good luck. The Nazis used right or clockwise pointing swastikas, as well as neo nazis, anti Semitics, and white supremacist groups. This is either an inside job, or the work of someone who is ignorant and uninformed, or possibly someone in the area with a grudge. I would look toward the local area first.

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#1.31 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:51 AM EST

Has to be ignorant kids or something else is amiss.

I also have trepidation because the business is 4 years old and has no listing in Google maps.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=w9J&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=rcs&q=little+leapers+daycare+care+fort+lauderdale&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.42768644,d.eWU&biw=1024&bih=616&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&ei=DmcrUZrbFIj88QSp5oGgDg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAg

Also, there is no website for the business.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Little+Leapers+Childcare&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs#hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=w9J&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&channel=rcs&sclient=psy-ab&q=little+leapers+daycare+care+fort+lauderdale&oq=Little+Leapers+Child+Care+fort&gs_l=serp.1.0.33i29.23469.23977.1.26398.4.4.0.0.0.0.117.397.2j2.4.0.les%3Bernk_timediscountb..0.0...1.1.4.psy-ab.ImLkVD-Daqg&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.42768644,d.eWU&fp=ec0991bddc456b56&biw=1024&bih=616

No social networking links, no parental comments or reviews. Either they are severely poor, using some bad business model, ignorant of the interwebz, fly-by-night or a combination of all.

Also, in the article they print, "They say they believe the fire was deliberately set, given the vandalism spray-painted on the walls: three large red swastikas." THEY meaning the people that work there and NOT the police. Nowhere in the article is a comment from the police department.
Watch the video, no comment from police and I wonder who the silver Jaguar belongs to.

I am not stating these folks deserved this, I am stating a lot of stuff just does not add up. Stop letting the media drag you around by the nose and do some research. If you let someone sway your opinion without fact checking then you are a sheep.

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#1.32 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:54 AM EST

I see I offended someone. Sorry, but I'm speaking the truth. Don't blame me for your lack of knowledge about the KKK and other terrorist organizations. Unless Jews, Blacks, Arabs, Mexicans or Asians started taking up the swastika, I believe we have narrowed it down. And yes, I do live in Hillbilly Town, USA. So I am quite familiar with the workings and thinkings of hate groups, like Southern Baptists. (Two towns 30 miles in opposing directions from me, google up, "Erwin TN Hangs Elephant", "Greeneville TN KKK") Someone did it because they probably did not like who the church was helping. And as an Atheist, I do find it quite sad that people do attack churches.

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#1.34 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:13 AM EST

Actually, the Swastika has been a Hindu sign of Good Luck for more than 1000 years,and it is on the prow of most Indian ships....and it was part of a design motif in ancient Rome 2000 years ago.....

What I see here,is that White-male hate groups ( I am White) are upset, because,last year they became a minority...yes, the only demographic group which Mitt Romney won,in the popular head count, were White Males.

Obama won the popular vote nationwide, he won the majority vote of white women,Black women, Black males, Hispanic Women, Hispanic men,Gay males and Gay females, Asian women,Asian men, etc. The "Yahoos" who committed the crime in Florida, are upset, as they have become aware that they are outside the mainstream in the USA.

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#1.36 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:21 AM EST

Oh, Detective Dave is on this case....he will save us from claims by the victims.....yay, Dave !

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#1.37 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:25 AM EST

trust, funny you call Southern Baptist "terrorist". Do you even have a clue how many people they help every day? I am not even southern baptist. You are the most ignorant human on this board today. Whatever, you can have your opinion, but it makes you look like an idiot. Just becaue you may not agree with their beliefs, does not make them TERRORIST. You then represent the opposite of what this country stands for... religious freedom. Pitiful.

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#1.38 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:30 AM EST

Sorry Liam. I question EVERYTHING. A result of being screwed over too many times. If my 5 minutes of research offends you, then I suggest you read something else. Maybe something with more pictures?

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#1.39 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:33 AM EST

Considering the church is run by a black Bishop it's likely the callers and arsonists were skin heads / Neo-Nazi's. The police shouldn't have a hard time locating these individuals given the fact that Ft. Lauderdale isn't in Germany.

These swastikas are the original ancient form of the symbol. They come from Chinese and Asian civilizations that have used them for over 1,000 years. Hitler simply stole the symbol and turned it for his own use in the Nazi party. So scenario 2 includes a possible Asian gang or Chinese gang.

But it seems likely that the symbol is used "correctly" by skin heads simply to throw doubt on their identity.

Hopefully this is what it appears to be not a ruse perpetrated for an insurance fraud. Given that fact that the police or even the F.B.I. may end up investigating if the harassment continues.

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#1.40 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:46 AM EST

The fact that the ppl took the time to call the church to tell them to leave makes me think that its was a personal thing and not just a bunch of youth being dumb. You can rebuild after a fire. the swastikas to me were to make them scared so they will leave.

My church had swastikas spray painted on the doors with the words "Jews Go Home" and "Nazis Rule" or something to that affect. Im assuming its because we go to church on Saturday instead of Sunday but our church has been there for 25+ years so clearly its an ignorant newby to the neighborhood....that and our congregation is about 80% Black 10% Filipino and 10%white/other so the vandal must not have very good deductive reasoning skills ("Either they have the most diverse and unconventional Jewish congregation in the world or they're not Jews....I'll go with diverse congregation". Personally, I was more offended at their pure stupidity than their attempt at intimidation.

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#1.41 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:54 AM EST

Julieann

The bashing on these blogs need to stop. Seriously, why do people feel that their First Amendment Right is a priviledge to bash others and continue on with bullying? And then people wonder why bullying is an issue among grammar school kiss, middle school, high school and even college students.

If you do not like the reporting of websites then stay off and don't read them. No one is holding a gun to your head to read the stories of news media outlets you don't like...or are they?

#1.22 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:55 AM EST

You do understand the 1st Amendment correct?! I know you don't like the bullying however, without the 1st Amendment, you wouldn't have been able to excercise your case now would you....

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#1.43 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:13 AM EST

Do you know what this means? this means someone painted swastika's on that wall!

It could be anything? but MSNBC will make the bast of it. Hollywood will make a movie and the libs will look for more ways to put control on people, so this won't happen again. and it might be someone trying to make it look like something that its not, and the door was just opened for the mentally deranged copycats to do their thing. welcome to The new US of A where you must be politically correct or you are a hypocrite, and a liberal view is the only view. oh yes this has hate crime written all over it, their is no doubt, look no further then some white people spewing vile social and ethnic, racist propaganda and acts of violence. how many hate crimes turn out to be a hoax? almost all of them, unfortunately the damage is already done and hate makes hate. so throw another log on the fire MSN your so good at it. have you ever considered using less dramatic terms like suspicious until you have some facts. how about a possible hate crime or a diversionary display of racial graffiti. sounds to me like someone is trying to make it look like a hate crime, if it is I do hope the guilty are apprehended. either way I hope the guilty are apprehended. now watch it turn out to be a disgruntled employee. but then that would not be news. in the old days that story would only appear on the local news, limited to f Lauderdale. I sometimes think the media is trying to create friction.

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#1.45 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:00 AM EST

Hate crime? Looks more like a little misdirection.

As a side note, although a moderate democrat...which is wild-eyed liberal to many republicans...I dislike things like hate crimes and crimes against women laws....look, I consider hurting another human a crime to be punished...no matter what, I see no need to "make it worse" because of race or sex .... you make the punishment worse according to the detrimental effect on the victim.

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#1.46 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:30 AM EST

Very weird ...reporting from New York - I have, within the last few days, seen these right handed Swastikas appearing on the foreheads of white models on the advertisements posted in the New York subway. Specifically the hallway for the 1 train.

    #1.47 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:54 AM EST

    libs will look for more ways to put control on people,

    Really now....

    You righties want to control who sleeps who whom and a woman's womb and yet it's the libs that are looking for more ways to put control on people ?

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    #1.48 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:57 AM EST

    Hi, CD

    Maybe a gang wants the building. What kind of neighborhood is it in? Is it in a strategic location for gang activity?

    Not really enough information for anything. Just glad no one was hurt. The Wheel of Life turns.

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    #1.50 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:13 PM EST

    The bums couldn't even get the right angle on them or draw them right. To bad the Swastikas and Confederate flag have been taken up as mantels for hate groups. The Swastika is a anceint symbol for wealth and prosperity but everybody thinks Nazi as soon as they see one.

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    #1.52 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:12 PM EST

    Seems to me that with the items that were stolen shows this is more about robbery and vandalism than it is hate crime.

    The swastikas, backwards or forwards, are symbols of hate for many who have lived in the past century. The fact that they are backwards to me seems more like misdirection than anything.

    The thugs who did it WANT it to be seen as a hate crime based on race/nationality while the crime itself could simply be just for the stolen items and the glee some low lifes feel in destroying other peoples property.

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    #1.53 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:35 PM EST

    trust2112 post #1.19

    You can put more B.S. in two sentences than anyone I know. Talk about hate, you are close to cornering the market. Life is too short to have this much hate. Chill out...You're worse than the idiot blaming Joe Biden.

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    #1.54 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:51 PM EST

    This wasn't done by neo-nazis.

    The swastikas are backwards...the right-facing swastika was the nazi symbol. That would be known by someone who was into white power BS. This was the work of some amateur idiot, like a teen playing an unfunny prank, or a racist teen who doesn't know jack-squat about the symbols he's painting.

    The backwards, or left-facing, swastika is a religious symbol only (unlike the right-facing sawstika which, is both religious and nazi-related).

    The term sauwastika (or sauvastika) is sometimes used to distinguish the "left-facing" from the "right-facing" form of the swastika symbol, a meaning which developed in 19th century scholarship.[1]

    The "left-facing" variant is favoured in Bön and Gurung Dharma; it is called yungdrung in Bon and Gurung Yantra in Gurung Dharma. Both the right-facing and left-facing variants are commonly employed in Hinduism and Buddhism.

    So, any detective worth a crap isl ooking for a young man between the ages of 14 and 24, white, and either working with friends in a prank, or working alone as an individual who is generally a loner with racist outbursts. Neither is in any neo-nazi organization and neither is very well educated about nazism.

    In both cases the person is an idiot.

      #1.55 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:48 PM EST

      The swastikas, backwards or forwards, are symbols of hate for many who have lived in the past century.

      WRONG. Hindus and Buddhists use the left-facing and right-facing swastikas as religious symbols. Only the right-facing swastika was used by hate groups and Nazis in Germany. You just displayed religious ignorance that plays more into the stereotypes of religious intolerance. I'm sure you don't mean any harm, but the idea that swastikas are hate-symbols when used as religious symbols is nonsense. If that were the case the cross and the crescent moon and star from Christian and Muslim religions should be considered to be always hate symbols, since they were used in intolerant hate-filled murder fests in the Crusades.

      It's not true to say any symbol, whether Christian. Muslim, Hindu, or Buddhist, is a hate symbol just because the viewer is ignorant about other religions. Their ignorance of the other religions is the issue, not the symbol or the religious use of it.

      A historic church in Cleveland has pentagrams on its steeple. Is that an evil symbol? Only to the ignorant. Pentagrams were meant to ward off evil in some Slavic interpretations of Christianity (the church I'm speaking of is in Slavic Village in Cleveland and was built by Slav immigrants). It's the INVERTED pentagram that is supposed to draw in evil.

      But the igorant claim that the pentagrams on the church's steeple is evidence that sect of Christianity are "secret devl worshippers". Their ignorance is the issue, not te pentagram's use.

      And just as inverting the pentagram changes its meaning, so does inverting the right-facing swastika. It isn't a Nazi symbol of hate when left-facing...PERIOD.

        #1.56 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:00 PM EST

        The Swastika is a anceint symbol for wealth and prosperity but everybody thinks Nazi as soon as they see one.

        Same with the word "skinhead". Most skinheads are ANTI- RACIST. The word "skinhead" predates neo-nazi idiots. It was a movement that coincided and closely paired with the reggae movement. It originated among working class factory workers in England who liked ska and punk music, and later rocksteady and reggae. Many punk bands and reggae bands supported each other from England to Jamaica. Bob Marley mentions a few punk bands in his songs. The rastafarians refer to these original skinheads as "baldheads". They kept their hair short because it was dangerous to work in factories with long hair.

        But the media started stupidly calling all neo-nazi skinheads (a minority among skinheads) "skinheads" in a general sense, instead of distinguishing one kind of skinhead from another.

        Look up SHARP (Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice) and RASH (Red and Anarchist Skinheads)...both are anti-racist activist skinhead groups. Most skinheads abhor racism. The idea the word is associated with racism is evidence of the public's mass ignorance and the media's idiocy and lazy journalism. Skinhead subculture is not about racism.

          #1.57 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:13 PM EST

          Maybe a gang wants the building. What kind of neighborhood is it in? Is it in a strategic location for gang activity?

          I doubt this is the case, but the Maniac Latin Disciples (MLD Folks gang) from Chicago use the inverted swastika as one of their symbols. This was in honor of their original leader, a hispanic kid who went by the gang name "Hitler" (he admired Adolf Hitler...don't ask me why...). They aren't a racist gang, definately not a white power gang. They are mostly hispanic and the symbol has little relation to nazism (hence they use the inverted symbol, to distinguish it from Nazi symbology and racism).

          But the inverted swastika is a gang symbol. But usually it will be accompanied with pitchforks (a Folks symbol), and broken hearts with wings and devil tales (a diss to their Vice Lord rivals).

            #1.58 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:21 PM EST

            Re: Frankel being rude to the Dr. Guess what? TRADITIONALLY swastika's were a nazi symbol and a way to get at Jews...to remind them of the nazi's targetting their entire people for extermination. They killed lots of people...but weren't trying to wipe homosexuals of the planet. Their main "final solution" was chiefly about Jews and they kept excellent documents to prove this. Jews were by far the largest group killed, and more than half of the Jews in the ENTIRE WORLD at that time were killed. NINETY PERCENT of EuropeanJews were killed. THey were almost successful. So the Jews aren't being self centered to claim the holocaust as murder of the Jews. They were targetted more systematically than all other groups but the lamentation is that since the vast majority of European Jews were killed their entire traditional culture was wiped out..wiped off the face of the earth. IT doesn't diminsh that other peoples were targetted and did die...(mentally ill, disabled, the Roma too). IT was more mechanized and systematic with killing the Jews...it was the most important thing to them. So putting Swastika on Jewish establishments is THE way of saying "we want you dead and your entire people and entire religion and everything about you anhiliated".

            White supremacists, some of them, neoNazi's use the swastika true. But I think that very often just kids that aren't really nazi use it as a generalized hate symbol and don't even know what it means. I think thats what might happen sometimes if it's not put on Jewish establishments.

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            #1.59 - Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:50 AM EST
            Reply

            What a mob of low lifes , to do something like this is beyond my comprehension. What harm has this preschool/ day care center/ church done to anyone. Stick with it folks. Don't let them destroy you.

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            Reply#2 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:00 AM EST

            items that were stolen: Cameras, music equipment and flat-screen TVs used to live-stream sermons.

            I'm guessing that this why it was done and that the spray paint job was just to dress up the crime scene, sort of like the "Wet Bandits" in a particular movie.

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            #2.1 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:20 AM EST

            I agree with you Elk. I think this crime was all about the robbery. The fire and the swastikas simply for media attention.

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            #2.2 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:38 PM EST
            Reply

            Somewhere these individuals are sitting back laughing, thinking how much entertainment they are getting from this. The exposure and thrill of getting away with it.But the police are not stupid.The foolish creeps have set in motion a chain of events that they will not be able to stop. For by their very behaviors, they will get caught. If not sooner, then later. For their very habits, will trap them. And someone will notice the new flat t.v.s, other stuff taken. Just wait, karma does come back and she hates it when you mess with the little ones!

            • 13 votes
            Reply#3 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:14 AM EST

            They did not even draw them correctly. Seems more like, if we do this it will make the news.

            • 10 votes
            #4 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:16 AM EST

            They are correcrly drawn. If it was done as an attempt to throw investagters off it should still go down as a hate crime. The only quwstion I have is, with all that expensive Equipment in the building, why didn't they have an Alarm System? Churches are where they are and this is a real and changing world. My Grandmother, when I was a young boy told me of days when no one had a lock on the door. No matter how stedfast the Church sits the sourrounding enviroment changes. When the Enviroment changes, so does the people. So, with all due respect, "Get a Security System First Thing!" and second have a secure room to store you expensive items. You won't stop a theif, the whole idea is to slow them down until responeres arrive.

            • 1 vote
            #4.1 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:11 AM EST
            Comment author avatarDan M-1100664Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            I wonder if the swastikas drawn on Tawana Brawley were drawn backwards, too!

            • 4 votes
            #4.2 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:50 AM EST

            They are correcrly drawn.

            They are backwards, A german WWII era swastika faces the opposite direction

            If it was done as an attempt to throw investagters off it should still go down as a hate crime.

            Agreed, Even it it means prosecuting a minority if they were the guilty party, However we all know that will never happen.

            • 6 votes
            #4.3 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:19 AM EST

            So....BLACKS that are locked up are innocent? HONKIES ARE EVIL !!!!!

            • 5 votes
            #4.4 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:21 AM EST
            Comment author avatarJohn Bryantvia Facebook

            Of course, there's no chance that the swastikas were drawn backwards on purpose to draw attention to the victims. At least this attack was with spray paint, and not a semi-automatic rifle.

            • 3 votes
            #4.5 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:46 AM EST

            Douglas,

            I'm sorry if this article offends you, but your comments are unrelated so there isn't any need to migrate here from stormfront to defend the painting of swastikas and burning down of a day care. Just because there is a swastika doesn't mean you have to attack black people. Try to work on that.

            Remember, being a despicable anachronism is a choice. You don't get to play the victim card for it.

            • 4 votes
            #4.6 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:59 AM EST

            @Douglas Oates
            Yes, honkies are evil. Just like black folks.

            1. Matthew Emanuel Macon (Murdered and Raped 5 Women in Lansing)
            2. Jimmie Reed (Murdered his wife and his 2 month old daughter and set them on fire)
            3. Shelly Brooks (Murdered 7 prostitutes in Detroit Cass Corridor)
            4. Justin Blackshere (Stabbed two cooks at Cheli’s Chili downtown Detroit)
            5. Jervon Miguel Coleman (Murdered three people.)
            6. Donell Ramon Johnson (Murdered a mother and a daughter)
            7. Brian Ranard Davis (6 women known murdered by @!$%#)
            8. Paul Durousseau (Seven women)
            9. Mark Goudeau “The Baseline Killer” (Eight women and a man in 2005-2006)
            10. Coral Eugene Watts (11 women in Texas & 1 in Michigan)
            11. Anthony McKnight (Five girls and young women)
            12. Derrick Todd Lee (8 Women)
            13. Charles Lendelle Carter (4 known murders; admits to ‘hunting’ Atlantans for 15 years!)
            14. The Zebra Killings (71 people)
            15. Chester Turner (L.A.s most prolific killer 12 women killed.)
            16. Lorenzo J. Gilyard (Kansas City, MO.—13 victims)
            17. Eugene Victor Britt (Gary, IN.–3 known murder/rapes.)
            18. Reginald and Jonathan Carr (The Wichita Massacre)
            19. Ray Joseph Dandridge and his uncle, Ricky Gevon Gray (Richmond, VA.–Murdered 7 people in 7 days, including an entire amily.)
            20. The Tinley Park Murderer (Suspect hasn’t been found but has been described as black – murdered 5 women in a store.)
            21. Henry Louis Wallace (Raped and strangled 5 women to death.)
            22. Charles Johnston (Murdered 3 unarmed white men in hospital)
            23. Craig Price (Brutally murdered 3 women)
            24. Harrison Graham (Brually Murdered 3 women)
            25. Charles Lee “Cookie” Thornton (Murdered 6 at the Kirkwood, MO. city council. )
            26. & 27. Darnell Hartsfeld & Romeo Pinkerton (Abducted and Murdered 5 from a restaurant)
            28 &29. John Allen Muhammad & Lee Boyd Malvo (Sniped 11 people from a car in DC, 9 died.)
            30. George Russell (3 women, WA state)
            31. Timothy W. Spencer (5 killed, Arlington, VA and Richmond, VA)
            32. Elton M. Jackson (12 gay men killed, Norfolk, VA area)
            33. Carlton Gary (3 killed in Columbus, GA)
            34. Mohammed Adam Omar (16 women, Yemen. Omar is Sudanese.)
            35. Kendall Francois (8 women, Poughkeepsie, NY and surrounding areas.)
            36. Terry A. Blair (8 women, Kansas City area)
            37. Wayne Williams (33 many of them children!, Atlanta, GA)
            38. Vaughn Greenwood (11 killed in LA)
            39. Andre Crawford (10 killed in Chicago – southside)
            40. Calvin Jackson (9 killed possibley more in NY)
            41. Gregory Klepper (killed 8, Chicago – southside)
            42. Alton Coleman (Killed 8 in the Midwest)
            43. Harrison Graham (killed 7+ in N. Philadelphia)
            44. Cleophus Prince (6 killed in, San Diego
            45. Robert Rozier (7 killed in, Miami)
            46. Maurice Byrd (killed 20 + in St. Louis)
            47. Maury Travis (17 and rising, St. Louis and possibly also Atlanta)
            48. Hulon Mitchell, a.k.a. Yahweh Ben Yahweh (killed 20+ in Florida)
            49. Lorenzo Fayne (killed 5 children in East St. Louis, IL)
            50. Paul Durousseau, (killed 6, two of which were pregnant women, Jacksonville, FL; Georgia.)
            51. Eddie Lee Mosley (killed 25 to 30 women, south Florida)
            52. Henry Lee Jones (killed 4 in, south Florida; Bartlett, TN)
            53. Richard “Babyface” Jameswhite (15 killed in, New York; Georgia.)
            54. Donald E. Younge, Jr. (killed 4), East St. Louis, IL; Salt Lake City, UT.
            55. Ivan Hill (killed 6 in Los Angeles area).
            56. Michael Vernon (Bronx, NY. Killed at least seven people – )
            57. Chester Dewayne Turner (12 women killed in, Los Angeles)

            When you can stop being a bigoted pig and realize EVERYONE is INSANE. Then and ONLY then, you MAY have a chance. Until then please sit in the corner and shut the @!$%# up.

            • 7 votes
            #4.7 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:07 AM EST

            Dave keeps a list of black crimes handy so that whenever he feels threatened - and whenever the news article DOESN'T either mention or involve black people - he whips it out to prove that, no matter the situation at hand or the parties involved, black people are worse.

            It don't matter, it could be a story about two white dogs bitting a spotted dog, but Dave will be prepared with a list of BLACK DOG CRIMES because, you know, those black dogs are always starting somethin'....

            • 4 votes
            #4.8 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:51 AM EST

            Ciewyw...whatever...kudos to Dave for combating racism. Or are you saying black racism is okay? Yes, there are white serial killers and black serial killers and yes, blacks commit 50% of the murders in this country though they're only 13% of the population. NUMBERS DON'T LIE, but bigots do--like you, making excuses for black killers. Who mostly kill other blacks.

            • 1 vote
            #4.11 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:35 PM EST

            Ciewywtbfmh6sps-23

            http://blackpeoria.wordpress.com/list-of-black-serial-killers/

            http://whitereference.blogspot.com/2008/05/so-you-thought-only-whites-were-serial.html

            Google is an amazing tool. Maybe you and the other bigots should use it. Even though the site IS bigoted, the information it contains is correct. I also took out the word WHITE in my copy and paste of said information as my point was to show that ALL PEOPLE ARE TWISTED.

            If you are driving and someone cuts you off, do you issue a general lament of disgust or do you make a racial epithet? I bet it is the latter. I really feel sorry for you.

            You too can sit in the corner and shut the @!$%# up.

              #4.12 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:37 PM EST

              I'll tell you what is up RIGHT NOW people. You are kept bickering about stupid crap to keep you seeing the big picture. It is NOT about skin color, it is about money. It's about how greedy politicians, bankers, Wall Street investors keep their pockets lined.

              Ever wonder why there is a liquor store or pawn shop every 10 yards in an impoverished side of town?

              THINK ABOUT IT
              There is a greater slow moving plan that sees only cash and power. Humans are but a cog in the mechanism to get said cash and power. The only goal of this plan is total financial domination and power.

              I tell you what, sit here and bicker. Do nothing. I will continue to help empower the minds of ALL YOUNG people. To act as a reminder the we must all work TOGETHER to set the planet straight.

              I am done, you've given me a headache. You bigoted people make me sick.

                #4.13 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:57 PM EST

                @Rachel; I am no bigot. We are ALL created equal. If there were a superior human we would be speaking and writing in their language only. The fact we do not proves my point.

                  #4.14 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:36 PM EST

                  There is good and bad in every race/nationality. Racism is just ignorance. Regardless of your religion or political leanings.

                  Dave, people have to WANT to make that change in their own life for it to happen. Neither you nor anyone else can do it for them.

                  MJ said it best. "I'm starting w/the Man in the Mirror".

                  That's ALWAYS where it starts. With yourself.

                    #4.15 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:56 PM EST
                    Reply

                    Aww come on, a daycare? I just hope the babies are too young to comprehend the meaning behind this hateful thing. We need to let our kids be kids for a while, they will learn about hate soon enough.

                    • 7 votes
                    Reply#5 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:21 AM EST

                    Did you even read the article? The building is also a church - not just a daycare. They aren't "babies" - most of the kids there are school age or preschool. It also has a performing arts program.

                    People need to stop "assuming" so much when they read these articles. These are accusations of the socalled church and daycare staff - we don't know who did this. They might have done it themselves for insurance purposes. There is absolutely no evidence that it was a hate crime - they are merely assuming that.

                    • 4 votes
                    #5.1 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:54 AM EST

                    "Socalled church"? You deciding what's a church and what isn't?

                    • 4 votes
                    #5.2 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:08 AM EST

                    It was a multi use facility, and the media is playing it to their advantage, for all anyone knows this could have been a act of delinquency by a small group of Juveniles, who else would steal TV sets and Electronics? oh I'm sorry that would be profiling and that's against the law, that is unless it was white teenagers then its OK. you think that's racist of me your wrong I'm just tired of the liberal BS, people should call things as they see them. my guess is it was a small group of teens and possibly mixed races. that or the Chinese they break into every thing and steal whatever they can get their hands on, those TV sets are on their way to Singapore.

                    • 4 votes
                    #5.3 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:41 AM EST
                    Reply

                    Could be an insurance scam. Just sayin'.

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#7 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:24 AM EST

                    Yes it could be, The swastikas are backwards so they were made by someone who does not have very much knowledge about a swastika.

                    • 3 votes
                    #7.1 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:15 AM EST
                    Reply

                    It was a bunch or morons being stupid. I hope the athorities find them and put them behind bars.

                    Roger, this article has nothing to do with politics, so drop it.

                    • 8 votes
                    Reply#8 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:35 AM EST
                    Comment author avatarbob-2579213Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                    Phillykevin2

                    ..".don't care it was morons or not whoever just put their ass in jail"

                    Why do you think it was Obama and Biden in the first place?? Biden is too busy studying for his GED and Obama's planning his next vacation.

                    That's a nice picture of you... did you have it done professionally?

                    • 5 votes
                    #8.3 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:53 AM EST

                    Sorry, but when the press has a "hate crime" story it always is political! It is a cheering section for liberals to chant how bad the nasty republicans are and how they need to be stopped! Just look at what the republican's buddies did! BTW, just to remind everyone here, the original Nazis were SOCIALISTS! Just like many of the liberals on this post! Just sayin'!

                    • 5 votes
                    #8.5 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:23 AM EST

                    Dan,

                    By the way, there were three attacks on liberals and zero attacks on Republicans RIGHT above my comment. Can you explain to me why that is? Why are so many Republicans attacking Obama, liberals, and minorities in response to a swastika painting?

                    Can you explain then why the comment section is more than half-filled with people complaining about minorities? Clearly the word "swastika" is a rallying call for a certain bunch and from the looks of it, the pro swastika crowd is out here in force.

                    Here we have a long string of perceived victim-hood by a certain bunch. Imaginary claims of minorities never getting prosecuted and sorrow for all the unfair treatment white people get because of hate crimes. Because the real victim in all of this of course the Neo-Nazis.

                    This is pitiful. Seek help.

                    • 6 votes
                    #8.6 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:47 AM EST

                    Dan-the Nazis called themselves Socialists to fool people. They weren't liberals by any stretch of the immagination. It's right wing types that enjoy rounding up people and sticking them in detention camps. Remember the circumstances during WWII? There were big internment camps for Japanese citizens of our country, and a few that housed Italians (who were Catholic and not mainstream Baptists), but there was no internment for German-Americans. Charles Lindburgh (not a liberal) championed the Nazi cause here as well.

                    Just sayin'!

                    • 1 vote
                    #8.7 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:48 AM EST

                    Actually Blueunicorn, there WERE internment camps for German Americans during WWII.

                      #8.8 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:49 PM EST
                      Reply

                      Teenagers do all sorts of stupid things these days, anything for a jolt to feed their habits.

                      The drugs on the streets are killing the youth in America, the prescription drugs are killing the rest of them.

                      from the looks of the backwards symbols they scribbled, it looks like the person who painted them was left handed. So the person in question will have red fingernails on their left hand, check the cuticles, it's a bitch to get paint out of those....just adding common sense to the comments.

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#9 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:43 AM EST
                      Comment author avatarron-2301310Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                      Where's Al Sharpton? We haven't heard from him in quite a while!

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#10 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:59 AM EST
                      Comment author avatarRoger-521043Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                      Al doesn't go to school yards any more since his assassination attempt in 1991.

                      besides, unless it was a "white" kid that did this, you won't see him or Jessie Jackson.

                      They only like the cases where they can keep prejudice alive.

                      God forbid they stand up for ANY person who is attacked.

                      • 7 votes
                      #10.1 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:32 AM EST

                      probably looking for shopping bag for "Tawana"

                      • 2 votes
                      #10.2 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:57 AM EST

                      Ron and Bob, two totally clueless racists.

                      You both need to get out more.

                      "Life is tough, it's even tougher when you're stupid." John Wayne

                      • 4 votes
                      #10.3 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:09 AM EST

                      Mike, I see a lot of racists on these cites, but, they are mainly of the liberal persuasion!

                      • 3 votes
                      #10.4 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:52 AM EST

                      Dan,

                      Only racist people afflicted with denial and desperately trying to deflect believe what you're saying so what is the point in saying it? Does blaming liberals for how you feel make you feel better?

                      • 1 vote
                      #10.5 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:07 AM EST
                      Reply

                      It's Florida,next time the little pieces of excrement come a-calling,put down your Bible,pick up your guns,STAND YOUR GROUND and send their worthless asses straight to Hell.

                      I'm sure The Nuge will do a benefit concert and the NRA will pay for any legal costs you may incur.

                      They're cool like that.

                      • 5 votes
                      Reply#11 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:24 AM EST

                      they are fools like that ............STAND YOUR GROUND the dumbest law ever ...that what you get when you elect them from the stupid party...............

                      As opposed to what...over 500 murders per year like in Chicago, Yes that is what you get when you keep electing people who tell you they know what is best for you and treat you like children.

                      FYI, the use of 3 dots or 3 periods is called an ellipsis, The use of 8 or 10 or more is just someone who does not know how to use an ellipsis or what it is, Kind of like someone who puts up a backwards swastika.

                      • 6 votes
                      #11.2 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:45 AM EST

                      LOL...and you think I am the one that is lost, Your absolute hate is displayed in everything you post and yet you claim others are hateful, You make stupid comments about a user name and make assumptions that make you nothing more than a talking head.

                      Poor Kevin, He is so mad because the white man has held him back, The white man has held him down and forced him to be what he is, Philly is a perfect place for you, Just another liberally run sh!thole filled with more sh!tholes.

                      I will take lost in the pine barrens anyday over being found in a dump like philly.

                      • 4 votes
                      #11.4 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:41 AM EST

                      To the creature phillykevin2 - Florida's stand your gun law is absolutely necessary. When someone is standing in your home in the middle of the night or middle of the day for that matter and you did not invite them in, they have a hoodie or mask shielding their face and are menacing in their behavior, you have every right to protect yourself and your loved ones. Most people use the law properly and do not go around shooting teenagers in a car at a gas station because they are playing their music too loud. If someone is unwilling to identify himself/herself after being asked to, then the law is in effect. If your motives are pure and you intend no harm, you should have no trouble identifying yourself.

                      If you truly are from Philly, you really should not be casting stones at any other place. The entire state of Pennsylvania is a hot mess. Most of the problems in Florida are from the transplants from Up North.

                      • 3 votes
                      #11.5 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:04 AM EST

                      FloridaMaggie: Don't try to argue with phillykevin2, he's a Liberal, they're pro murder and pro criminal.

                      • 1 vote
                      #11.6 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:45 AM EST

                      There's a reason why Philadelphia is a cesspool... and it's the people total loads like phillykevin2 keep voting for. Bring Regime change to Philadelphia! Sure, cities vote Democratic... it's physical proof of the fact that if you cram too many animals into too small a space, they go crazy and start preying on each other.

                      • 2 votes
                      #11.7 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:56 AM EST

                      And know we have Matt-343495 who knows what is in the hearts of all. I've seen your posts before, and you love accusing people who don't agree with your crap of being pro-murder and pro-criminal. Way to carry your ignorant arguments! Call people names and seal the deal!

                      And FloridaMaggie, all states give people the right to protect themselves in their homes. Your statement that "most people" use the Stand Your Ground law properly does not reassure me. Are you saying that people have to identify themselves to others on the street on demand? And most of the problems you have in Florida are "Up North" transplants? Our elderly who retire to Florida to be warm? I live in upstate NY by the Adirondack Mountains, and the only people I've ever known who go to Florida are too old to be much of a threat...If you look at a map, you'll see that we are nowhere near the Big Apple.

                        #11.8 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:59 AM EST

                        Can Do Math, another insulting idiot. How much do the Koch brothers pay you to troll? You really would be happier if this country was completely Nazi, wouldn't you?

                          #11.9 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:02 AM EST
                          Reply

                          kennyw-2983735

                          It's Florida,next time the little pieces of excrement come a-calling,put down your Bible,pick up your guns,STAND YOUR GROUND and send their worthless asses straight to Hell.

                          I'm sure The Nuge will do a benefit concert and the NRA will pay for any legal costs you may incur.

                          They're cool like that.

                          Nothing like a reference to Ted Nugent to expose someone for the idiot they are.

                          Last year he said if Obama was re-elected he would either be dead or in jail by next year - still waiting to see which it is. Its a win-win situation.

                          • 8 votes
                          Reply#12 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:31 AM EST

                          **SIGH**

                          Nothing like an attempt at satire to bring out the dullards...

                          >>INSERT FACE PALM HERE

                          FWIW,I would agree with you on the "win-win" sentiment as to Nugent,but we all know that he's too much a gutless POS to do either.

                          • 6 votes
                          #12.1 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:41 AM EST
                          Reply

                          Hummmm. Very interesting. Why all this after four years? Maybe a disgruntled x church member at work? There is no proof this is a hate crime,but it makes it sound more ominous. Regardless, arson is never a good thing.

                          • 3 votes
                          Reply#13 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:32 AM EST

                          These people set all of us back 200 years.

                          • 1 vote
                          Reply#14 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:33 AM EST

                          Which people are you referring to, The swastika is backwards so in reality it is not really a swastika at all, Was it put that way on purpose or was it put there by someone trying to make it look like a hate crime when it is not and they were too stupid to realize how to draw a swastika.

                          Please tell us which of "these people" you think are responsible for it?

                          • 4 votes
                          #14.1 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:20 AM EST
                          Reply

                          After viewing the video clip, doesn't the teacher of that school look like she endulges in a "wake and bake" before school?

                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#15 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:35 AM EST

                          I bet these folks did this themselves. Thats how it is in many cases like this.....Just smells fishy to me

                          • 3 votes
                          Reply#16 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:42 AM EST

                          Well thank goodness we have a justice system that doesn't rely on the fishy-smell-sense of people posting on the internet.

                          • 1 vote
                          #16.1 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:36 AM EST

                          Yes thank goodness we have a justice system that doesn't take things at first face value either...hopefully, eh?

                          Last year a Sharmeka Moffitt claimed that 3 masked Klan men set her on fire then writing racial slurs and KKK on her car. Big to do about all this with rallys, vigil and much face book gnashing of teeth.I thought it just didn't make sense.

                          Now guess what? Turns out that she did it herself and the only finger prints found on the lighter and the lighter fluid were her's !

                          She did spell KKK right.

                          • 2 votes
                          #16.2 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:58 AM EST
                          Reply

                          I hate all forms of intolerance, Nazis, neo-Nazis, baggers, neocons, zenophobes, homophobes, Islamophobes, jingoists, racists, bigots of all stripes, GOP...oh, already named GOP i reckon...but, the Nazi swastika was right-facing, not left facing. Don't think skinheads did this bit of work, but I stop short of suggesting an insurance scam. ASHLEY JUDD (DEM-KY) 2014!

                          • 3 votes
                          Reply#17 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:45 AM EST
                          Comment author avatarLostInThePineBarrensExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                          I hate

                          Not much hate or bigotry in your words are there and before Ashley Judd can run for office she has to figure out if she is in Tennessee or Kentucky, Between her and Biden maybe they can figure out what state they are actually in.

                          • 4 votes
                          #17.1 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:26 AM EST

                          Lost, I hate you too! Adios Mitch---2014!

                            #17.2 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:37 AM EST

                            .

                              #17.3 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:56 AM EST

                              poor B Hatfield KY, I do not hate you, I feel sorry for you , All that hate eating you up inside

                              • 2 votes
                              #17.4 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:45 AM EST

                              Poor ol' Lost...doesn't recocognize humor, irony, sarcasm, facetiousness, malapropism...I don't hate you either, but I wouldn't choose to raise a glass or share a blunt with you. Would you like me to send you a bumper sticker for Ashley, and this month's issue of "Mad Magazine"? I'm an old honkey, but I'm not angry.

                                #17.5 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:37 AM EST

                                Poor old B Hatfield, You can't even make up your mind if you hate or are just crazy, Since I do not drink and do not smoke anything It does not bother me that you would not choose to lift a glass or share a blunt and before you go off on a tangent about being all high and upity about drinking and smoking I have nothing against alcohol or smoking products, I personally do not care what you do to your body.

                                • 1 vote
                                #17.6 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:45 PM EST
                                Reply

                                The last time swastikas were painted on anything that made the news, the culprits turned out to be the owners of the property and they were Jewish. I would wait on this story.

                                • 6 votes
                                Reply#19 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:29 AM EST

                                Anne Stewart, most likely that place was torched by far-right-wing-Tim-McViegh-type-dip-chits like you.

                                Fox News is your kind of people's bible and hate is your game.

                                Your comments remind me of Ronald Reagan, when Ian Smith in South Africa was running apartied on its citizens and they were protesting, and getting gunned down, Ronald Reagan said, well, they were breaking the law..

                                Anne Stewart, go back to your Fax News and Tea Party crazies..

                                • 3 votes
                                Reply#20 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:31 AM EST

                                These symbols are not swastikas, They are backwards and were probably done by either someone with a grudge against the day care center/church or by someone looking to throw the blame towards someone else.

                                • 3 votes
                                Reply#21 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:36 AM EST

                                Agreed those symbols could mean "the sun" for all we know

                                • 2 votes
                                #21.1 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:11 AM EST
                                Reply

                                Interesting. The Nazi Swastika was a right facing swastika. These are left facing swastikas. Swastikas or rather the "symbol" have been around for thousand of years. They have been used primarily in the far east to indicate the location of religious temples. It was Hitler who took a religious symbol and turned it into what most of us recognize as a symbol of hate and intolerance.

                                • 4 votes
                                Reply#22 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:50 AM EST

                                it does not matter whom spray painted the swastika's, but it is not only white trash whom does this, but any group of people whom want to run what they call undesireables out, i am guessing punks whom want the space to themselves and are using a violent scare tactic or some gang whom blindly hate anybody in their neighborhood.

                                just like mexican and black gangs use the star david as a satanic symbol, some will use the swastika as a satanic symbol, even punk rockers in the 1970's whom hate(d) jewish people(capitalists) have used swastika's for shock value.

                                the swastika holds just as much infamy as the Baphomet, which is the real symbol of the satanic, but i DARE ANYBODY to try and use it to scare people, you would have Peter H. Gilmore and karla Lavey on you in no time flat defending their religion, the Church Of Satan!

                                • 1 vote
                                Reply#23 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:50 AM EST

                                Chri Cox...Try to learn the proper use of the word "whom." I can't take you seriously if you use bad grammar. And do some research on the so-called "Church of Satan." You will find they are a tiny minority, most of whom (see correct usage) align themselves to Satan because it's trendy.

                                  #23.1 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:27 AM EST

                                  A reverse swastika is used by many different cultures to mean of all things the sun. Being backwards should tell us this isn't the "norm" of what we would think it to be.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #23.2 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:10 AM EST
                                  Reply

                                  What twits! These rocket scientists drew the symbol BACKWARDS. Their ignorance runs deep.

                                    Reply#24 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:01 AM EST

                                    Very easy to explain; they wanted people driving away to be able to see it in their rear view mirrors, like the word

                                    ECNALUBMA

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #24.1 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:31 AM EST
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                                    I certainly hope the National Socialist Party (NAZI) is not making another comeback....

                                      Reply#25 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:30 AM EST

                                      well if you research the atrocities our military are involved in one might think they are back in full swing.

                                      Just recently our special forces have been accused of disappearing innocent people and in one instance slicing a mans throat and leaving the body under a bridge. This is NOT the America I will support.

                                        #25.1 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:16 AM EST

                                        I live in Frankfurt, Germany. A journalist interviewing a member of the German parlament asked him what would happen if the ban on the NSPD would be lifted. The answered was: "Within seven or eight months there would close to four millions NAZIS parading on the streets of Germany. Recently an investigation was closed about people, mostly foreigners, who disappeared in the last ten years en different part of Germany. It was discovered that a clique of Nazis a killed them all, because they were not German. They all were captured and sentenced to life. They're still alive and dangerous.

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                                        #25.2 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:30 AM EST

                                        thrill,

                                        "Accused"? maybe you should wait to see if these accusations are borne out before you discredit the military.

                                        What if someone accused you of doing something very serious with no proof?

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                                        #25.3 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:07 AM EST

                                        NC-

                                        I think there is no chance anymore of getting through to people like thrill22. Only because of the way the "news" is being reported.

                                        I read an article, I guess you could call it this am about the rumour that the next pope could be the last based on prophecy. The whole article was bull. Then the last paragraph read:

                                        MSN NEWS & RUMORS

                                        MSN News seeks to give up-to-date information on rumors related to current events, people or even topics/issues of interest. We'll tell you what we can confirm from the rumor mill — and what we can't. If we can't confirm a rumor, we'll share what we do know about it.

                                        If you have a rumor you'd like to submit for review, email: msnnewsrumors@microsoft.com

                                        At first my son and I laughed hysterically, but then I thought about it. How sad and scary that MSN actually has a web page, linked from their front page dedicated to rumours. It's especially scary because of they way the headlines are written.

                                        It's scary because from experience online, I've read too many comments from too many people who only seem to read the headlines without reading the articles and take it as gospel.

                                        And by the way, what has happened in the poster's lives who have immediately jumped to the conclusion that this church set the fire themselves for the insurance money?

                                        Our world really is becoming a suspicious and terrifying world.

                                          #25.4 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:21 PM EST
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                                          Just like the idiots who vandalized the day care, their counter parts are posting here...

                                          Hate-filled cowards....get out the sheets so that you cannot be identified as the cowards you are....

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                                          Reply#26 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:31 AM EST

                                          What color is your sheet Mr. Poster Man?

                                            #26.1 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:24 AM EST
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                                            Poorly written. Who threatened them? Was this random.

                                              Reply#27 - Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:49 AM EST
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