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Subscribe to RSSHurricane force winds blew into Texas creating a 'historic' blizzard and whiteout conditions in the Texas-Oklahoma panhandle. Kansas also saw its share of snow as the storm blew north, and blizzard warnings are in effect. The Weather Channel's Mike Seidel reports.
A deadly snowstorm packing hurricane-force wind pummeled the Great Plains on Monday, the second bout of fierce winter weather there in less than a week. Authorities pleaded with people to stay off the roads.
Wind gusts of 75 mph were recorded at the airport in Amarillo, Texas, and up to a foot and a half of snow was on the ground — the most in at least 110 years. At least one city fire truck was stuck.
“This is a really nasty blizzard,” said Greg Postel, a meteorologist with The Weather Channel.
The storm was being blamed for at least two deaths: In the town of Woodward, Okla., heavy snow caused a roof to collapse, killing one person inside the home, Oklahoma Highway Patrol told NBC News. And in northwest Kansas, a 21-year-old man was killed when his SUV overturned on an icy patch of Interstate-70, according to Kansas Emergency Management officials.
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National Guard units set out to help drivers stranded along Interstate 40, but the state said that troopers couldn’t get to everyone because of the whiteout. The wind whipped the snow into 10-foot drifts.
Amarillo had 17 inches of snow on the ground at mid-afternoon, threatening its single-day record of 18.1 inches, set in 1934.
Larry Phillips / Southwest Daily Times via AP
City crews remove snow early on Monday in Liberal, Kan., which is under a blizzard warning until Tuesday at midnight.
Authorities closed highways in the Oklahoma panhandle, which was bracing for more than a foot of snow. The University of Oklahoma and Oklahoma State University canceled afternoon classes.
In Kansas, which was expecting up to 2 feet of snow through Tuesday, Gov. Sam Brownback extended a state of emergency from last week.
“This storm has the potential to be more dangerous than last week’s storm,” he said. His advice to drivers: “Stay off the road unless it’s absolutely critical.” For those who had to drive, he suggested packing charged phones and emergency kits.
The storm last week dumped more than 14 inches of snow on Wichita, Kan., its second-highest total on record. Parts of Kansas got a foot and a half, and parts of Missouri more than a foot.
Jamie Squire / Getty Images
Tow-truck driver Tyson House helps trucker Gary Wheeler after his vehicle slid off the road in Greensburg, Kan., during last week's storm.
Joe Pajor, a public works official, told NBC affiliate KSN in Wichita that this storm would create driving conditions “that are basically unprecedented for the traveling public.”
The storm’s reach extended to the Southeast. The National Weather Service said it could spawn tornadoes Tuesday in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia and the Florida Panhandle.
FedEx said the storm was causing delays for deliveries in 15 states, as far east as Pennsylvania and as far north as Minnesota.
The storm also threatened to dump 6 inches of snow on Chicago through Tuesday.
The same weather system blanketed Colorado on Sunday. About 200 flights were canceled at the airport in Denver, and Gov. John Hickenlooper told non-essential state workers to report two hours late Monday.
Reuters and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
This story was originally published on Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:39 AM EST
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Damned global warming.
Of course, at the risk of ruining your joke, there are countries that are suffering a drought.
Climate change its actually called at this time of year...global warming doesnt come into play until at least April
Global warming paradox: Less snow, but fierce storms
Educate yourself.
Why was it so dry last summer? Educate us. Oh, we would all like to know how this summer's weather will be too. Science seems to be cherry picking...
That moisture isn't distributed evenly on every acre of the planet, KF - or every state, or even every country. I think that would be pretty obvious to anyone.
But extreme rainfall events certainly are increasing across the globe, and even here at home. From the American Meteorological Society:
Instead of responding with a knee-jerk reaction based on what's happening in your own front yard, why don't you just read the linked article (for once)?
My pleasure. BTW, looks like you're in for (another) hot, dry one. Drought to persist or intensify.
Best as I can tell, it may or may not snow. I'll look out the window and let you know.
It is called logic. The only thing jerking is your own pompous ego.
Fell for the bait? Cant wait to revisit this one during the global warming season!
'Logic' led to the conclusion that the world was flat, Kornfed. Science proved that it wasn't.
Through the internet, you have access to the accumulated knowledge of human civilization, and decades of research on climate change. But instead of reading even just a few links on the topic, you use that powerful tool to watch cat videos and argue with strangers about things you've never even remotely studied.
I wonder why people make that choice.
It was the "science" of the time...
Again, you're incorrect.
The Scientific Method dates back to Galileo, and no further. Prior to that, we had 'natural philosophy' (look it up). It is completely different from what we now know as 'science', because testing and repeatable results (the very foundation of the Scientific Method) weren't required.
All one had to do was to 'think', and apply 'logic'.
And now we've come full circle.
What is wrong with arguing with people on the internet? You partake in this activity as well...I can prove it, scientifically! As to the cat videos, yes I have seen the piano playing cat, and it was quite entertaining!
haha...Let us go in another circle then, I like to dance.
Science is looking at its own backyard when it comes to the climactic history of the earth. Such brazen conclusions for an entity that throws "logic" under the bus
Ummm Retired
Those aren't "cat " videos....you must have that word confused with the slang term.
Physicist Retired, you rock. I admire your tenacity. Thanks for taking the time to respond here.
That would be a geologist...not a physicist.
Kornfed apparently doesn't know when he's been beat! It was amusing at first, now it's just embarassing!
The Colorado slopes got LOTS of new snow!!!! Come see us for some good powder skiing.
Kornfed and Scooter are trolls who scan the vine just to be a pain in the butt to those making reasonable posts. Ignore them.
I want more global warming, dang it!
Physicist-retired (and others) -- You cannot attribute a solitary event to the presence or absence of global warming. Further, and all scientists should know this, and in fact I wouldn't even let anyone out of my 8th grade physical science class w/o knowing this, a correlation does not demonstrate cause and effect. It snowed! Water vapor plus sub-32 degree F temperatures -- that's what happens. Sheesh!
BTW, expect warmer temperatures and less snow in the summer, another shocker!
So Scooter? If I'm pounding something (geologically speaking) hard while watching (animalistically speaking) "cat videos" what am I called?
Hey Physicist - Gee, was there Global warming in '34 too?
Weather, normally speaking, is cyclical. Then there are events like volcano eruptions, that will cause alterations to the normal cycle. These storms do not mean a thing. The only thing different is an alarmist media and those who believe them.
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These people are "educated" by the likes Beck and Limbaugh. Completely clueless. it would be sort or funny if they didn't vote or buy firearms!
Unfortunately, we won't know the real consequences for 15-20 years when it may or may not be too late. If the polar caps remain intact and don't recede dramatically as predicted, then whew we dodged a bullet. But if what many scientists predict are true, then there are daunting consequences. I wouldn't not want to live on a coast.
well, voxthelibber...there are also many very smart and educated people that buy firearms and vote...and there always will be
And most of us are for some forms of gun control too, greyfox.
Funny how that works, isn't it ?
By "global warming season", I presume you are not referring to the onset of winter in the Southern hemisphere? Or do you not think that Australia is part of the globe?
Sure you can. What you cannot do is attribute global warming as the single, solitary cause of any one event. But then, no climate scientist has ever made such a suggestion, have they?
Darn - PR can defend his statements with ease, but for your one event comment. One event does not make a trend is true, but when you look at CO2 concentrations, global average temperatures, Sun activity and in the last 30 years you have a steep increase in temperatures, then you start to have a correlation. Now if you want to get into a discussion with PR over atmospheric physics, then be prepared to be schooled. PR has some great links on the subject, take time to read some of them.
It's climate change. Deal with it.
Physicist-then why did we have these same types of storms over 40 years ago when I was a kid? I understand that we affect our world with our pollution etc, but I am extremely skeptical about global warming...especially in light of the ice age and changes in climate that have happened over time. I think we have a responsibility to take care of our planet for those who will inherit it and need to become a less disposable society but I do not believe that we are having this big of an effect on our climates. I believe it is cycle the earth goes through.
In addition to what PR has written, let us not forget that we are dumping over 90 million tons of CO2 into the atmosphere every year just from human activity. Add that to the natural cyclical nature of the planet's weather, and you get an accelerated heating cycle. Not to mention that because of the additional CO2 we are pumping into the atmosphere, the heating will not only be faster, it will likely become hotter.
'Climate change' was a term suggested by Frank Luntz to mock the term 'global warming', and tie it more closely to the natural cycles that do occur.
Fact: human activity is causing the average global temperature to rise faster than it would rise in a natural warming cycle.
laliana, the Earth does go through cycles, of course, and climate scientists are well aware of that. Climate changes naturally all of the time. And one of the factors that is known to change the climate in the long term is the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. Whether it builds up naturally or we put it there doesn't make any difference.
Did anybody notice that the article never mentions anything about climate change?
Uh, because it's still the winter season and that's when it usually snows?
@Kornefed---- Lay off that Frankinstein korn.
Those in the Southern Hemisphere would disagree.
When events support fear mongering they are called GW, when they don't they are called weather. Sorry, you can't have it both ways.
This has nothing to do with GW, and everything to do with winter. I also remember storms this bad and worse four decades ago in the midwest, cars piled on top of snow drifts after the plows just pushed them up, etc.
It's just funny as hell when people read it's the worst since 34 then claim GW. Newsflash, it was WORSE in 34!!!. I do believe we are impacting the climate negatively but trying to use fear mongering and propaganda is not the way to convince people, it's too easy to see through.
Calling weather swings "climate change" is kind of like the T.V. weatherman always saying that there is a 50% chance of rain..... If it rains, he is "right", if it doesn't, he is "right", again! The problem with the claims that are being made is that the enviros call it "settled science"! According to a man much wiser than I, Albert Einstein, there is no such thing as "settled science". He always believed that nothing should be accepted as "set in stone" and everything should be constantly questioned.
I know this for a fact because I had many conversations about Mr. Einstein with an assistant of his, a Dr. Chowla. The gentleman, in his 90's at the time, came into the restaurant I worked at, in of all places, in Laramie, Wyoming. He was a scientist who worked with Albert Einstein during the 30's and 40's in both London and the U.S. His prized possession, which he carried constantly, was an advanced Physics text that had been signed by his mentor and inscribed in German. The quote, translated by Dr. Chowla, said: "Never accept, always question!". I believe that we should take this quote from the world's most accomplished scientist to heart!
To those of you who are so adamant about global warming/ climate change, perhaps you should stop for just a minute and look up the great blizzard of 1888, or the year of no summer, or the hurricanes of 1780 which were the deadliest on record until 1998. This type of global weather patterning has been going on since this planet was formed. How unbelievably arrogant of anyone to think that we can in any way dramatically influence the weather patterns of this world. That is just plain stupidity. There are so many examples of how this phenomina has consistently occured throughout the ages.
You are the ones who need to educate yourself.
And remember, governments have been using fear mongering to distract and redirect the attentions of the masses for as long as recorded time. This is nothing more than more of the same. Get on with your lives and pay attention to the crap that really matters. This whole notion that we can affect global climate patterns is useful for no one but those who wish to create those distractions. Think about it this issue was never an issue until after the great Red Threat of Soviet Russia disappeared. Then they had to come up with other issues to distract you. This is just one of many propaganda lines meant to keep you from scrutinizing what is really going on. Grow up people and get on with your lives.
Now that is not to say that we can't kill a lake or a river. We still have to practice some restraint, but getting sucked into this paranoia is just silly.
What a @!$%#ing moron you are.
Right back at you Lou-429604!
So sick of hearing all this sensationalising.....holy crap, when I was a kid we had blizzards that lasted for days! Yup, that meant no electricity which meant (OMG, no TV!), not to mention no heat, no light, plenty of natural refrigeration though...for days!! The media just totally sucks, they gotta make a mountain out of a mole hill at every chance they get.........what the heck, we are not weinies!! We know how to take care of ourselves, and don't ever let government tell you otherwise!
Physicist retired and Kornfed... back to your corners both of you. Sheesh... I'm assuming you're both men. Only men would argue about something as mundane as the weather. You're both arrogant, stubborn children. Now, go have some chocolate, calm down and then play nice. Oh, and look out the window for the latest weather. Looking out the window has proven to be a very accurate detection method.
I don't believe in Global Warming.
Weather is viable.
We have seen droughts before.
Does the 'Dust Bowl' of the 1930's ring a bell? Yes!
Were not many global scientists claiming a new ice age was coming in the early 1970's? Yes!
Go research my last two questions, I dare you!!!
The average temperature in the world has not risen in 14 years even though CO2 has risen, fact.
See.....
***Don't be lazy and don't put on your horse blinders.
****Don't put your hands over your eyes (see no facts and look in history books)!
*****Don't put your hands over your ears (hear no disagreement and don't research the facts of an opponent's argument)!
******Don't put your hands over your head (know no challenge to your narrow point of view even if the facts are in your face)!
Think o tolerant ones! Think!!!
As I recall, (as I was there), Amarillo got 17 inches of snow once during the winter of 1980-81 so this snowstorm isn't without precedent anyway!
Well now David-3994413 seems to me the Dust Bowl WAS a human created crisis, caused because people wouldn't accept the idea that their farming methods were destroying the topsoil and causing other problems as well. That blows one hole in your 'stream of logic'. Global Warming/Climate Change predicts increases in extreme and unusual weather and changes in weather patterns. It has nothing to do with predicting single occurrences nor does it state that worse weather didn't occasionally happen in the past at various times and places. What it does say is that things are going to get rougher for most places on the planet, however there will be some areas that actually benefit from the changes. Where I live seems to be one that will be favored IF the models are anywhere close to accurate (and current trends do seem to support the accuracy of the predictions).
Further NO "Scientists" did NOT predict another Ice Age as per your implication, It was the News Media that grabbed onto a preliminary research paper and sensationalized "Global Cooling". Scientists never did support that view. IN fact I have videos from National Geographic from the 70's about Global WARMING even then.
Even with all modern conveniences people still struggle with cold and snow these days. The plains Indians of old had to be a resilient people to survive such conditions in their time. A lot of the Indians on the reservations out west now have to be resilient to make it through this today.
Good for you, you can believe whatever you want although I seriously doubt you have done a serious study of the subject.
Actually I did. It turns out that at the same time as some scientists were suggesting we might be facing another ice age, a greater number published contradicting studies. Their papers showed that the growing amount of greenhouse gasses that humans were putting into the atmosphere would cause much greater warming – warming that would a much greater influence on global temperature than any possible natural or human-caused cooling effects.
By 1980 the predictions about ice ages had ceased, due to the overwhelming evidence contained in an increasing number of reports that warned of global warming. Unfortunately, the small number of predictions of an ice age appeared to be much more interesting than those of global warming, so it was those sensational 'Ice Age' stories in the press that so many people tend to remember.
Really? You got this data from where? Because global temperatures sure haven't been cooling that is for sure.
Right back in your face o intolerant one.
I'm not certain that some people on this forum understand the differeence between weather and climate. I suggest this web site as a good place to begin a real study of the subject.
climate.nasa.gov
You don't have to believe it, but if you dismiss it with out even looking at the evidence then you are rather foolish.
David in post 1.51 wrote in part; "I don't believe in Global Warming".
Its not something to believe in.
Byron wrote:
I don't know of any who would do that, but plenty of posters here have done so and that's what I was referring to.
I can't understand why you guys collapsed my post. Don't get me wrong; I've long wondered why I'd never been collapsed before and I'm flattered, but also puzzled, since I wasn't either rude by the standards of the posters I replied to, or off-topic. Well, maybe I was slightly off-topic too since the article was about a snowstorm but, again, I was responding to numerous posters who implied that this weather event was profound evidence of the presence or absence of GW. Gotta get past that and I'd like to ignore such posts, but as an educator..... I cannot.
Everyone, not just scientists, needs to understand that a correlation does not prove cause and effect, and a lot of posters on this thread (and people seen/heard on the "news") presume precisely that. A day or a week or a year of "hot" doesn't prove AGW or even GW and a similar period of "cold" does not disprove it.
Kansas & Nebraska are populated with nice people. Lived there for many years.
Hated the darn winters. Much more temperate in Kentucky.
I've lived in West Texas most all of my life. The weather just seems to go in cycles over the many years. There are years where there is rain and times of drought. Times of more extreme cold that seemed to last a long time and times of heat. Just prepare for the worst and accept the best. Where ever you live, life is what you make of it. :)
Numb3rTech,
I drove through more tornado's and ice storms down there than I care to admit. There's not much that can happen that y'all aren't equipped to handle. One of the things I enjoyed the most was the miles and miles of cactus blooming. Texas is a great state, and it isn't for pussies.
Thank goodness it isn't hitting the East Coast, because that is all we would hear until it hit, and then have to hear how they need help, and that nasty town next to us won't bring their snowplows over here to help us. Hey people, that next door town had their own snow problems, which is more important to them that your snow problems.
All three states have some nice people, and also have some not so nice people, just like every state does. Doesn't Kentucky get real cold in winter? We can, here in SW WA, get some cold weather, but normally it isn't very much and don't last too long. Higher elevations is a different story. Never hear much about the winters in Kentucky, that is why I was asking.
It's just before 6am CST here in Norman, OK and rain started in about 4:30; some fantastic lightning! I won't complain about the rain, as we have been in an extreme drought for so long. Local forecasts are for about 8 inches of snow in the metro area, whiteout conditions up in the Panhandle. That may not seem like alot of snow to many, but when you add in Oklahoma's notorious wind, there will be some major problems for drivers not used to driving in those conditions. People need to stay home! Schools and businesses will be closing, for sure.
Thanks for the heads up. I hope everyone stays warm and SAFE. Be careful
I'm a USGS Drought Monitor -- every Thursday morning -- junkie even though I don't live in the US anymore. I sincerely hope this helps that vicious drought.
Well, another weather event this administration can use to blame for the high unemployment rate, the low GDP, the high gas prices, and the high consumable prices.
Meanwhile, another Surf and Turf Bollywood "dining in" at the White House for the Oscars with "props" in uniforms. Wonder how much Mrs. Obama's "evening gown", the video conferencing, and the "White House Oscar dining in dinner" cost the taxpayers.
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Yep, and for my friends in Nowata Ok....be safe out there.
Yeah -- the drought in the midwest has been terrible. Wonder why your food prices are going up? That's one reason.
So, let it snow ... let it snow ... let it snow!
Just stay home off the roads and think about how much getting rid of the drought will lower your food bills and quit complaining!
Ido -- the first lady gets the expensive duds just like the actors and actresses do ... free! The designers give them the dresses so as to be seen on famous people in public. Common knowledge dude.
As for videoconferencing. You seriously think that's expensive. Skype ring a bell?.
Sheesh -- anything to bring idiotic political bs into a totally NON political story
Ido can't help himself... it's what he lives for. You see Beth, he's obsessed with the Obama's every word, move and breath. Deep down he longs for the day to pet their dog Bo, because he knows they would never let him within 100 yards of any of the four of them... it hasn't been proven that Ido, being one of the last living Neanterthals, is safe to have human contact with. Meanwhile, it was really nice getting dumped on here in the Amarillo area... God knows we badly need the moisture! I have 5' snow drifts all around my home.
Wow PR -- the news media must be exaggerating again! We' heard 10' drifts down there! Anyway stay safe and warm! :)
I heard that even including up to the last storm, that moisture amounts were still severely deficit and many of these areas are still considered in severe drought. It takes a lot and a long time to replenish the soil after a multi year sustained drought like they've been having. Hard weather but they can use the moisture.
I'm not up on such matters, but I would think that lots of snow would be ideal for alleviating drought, since it melts slowly, and I'd guess the ground can absorb much of it. I realize that a multi-year drought cannot be overcome with a single event but this is good, right? Regardless, good luck.
I'm sure one of the armchair meteorologists that frequent these places will correct me, but I think I read somewhere a long time back that a foot of snow equals an inch of rain. Going to take a bunch of snow to overcome drought deficiencies in some areas. Not that catch-up even matters. All that matters is rainfall during whatever growth period of your crop requires it.
And as a criticism on all these cataclysmic events the press would believe we are suffering, doesn't anyone in msnbc, ap, nbc, etc know that hurricane force winds are sustained 75mph winds, not gusts? Sure it's no fun, but at least use an adjective that's correct.
DTD.. I forget exactly what they say, but something like 8-10 inches of snow roughly equals one inch of rain. A foot of snow won't cure a drought.
That's true ... it's very dry. Unfortunately, snow doesn't add up as much as you think.
Most people say it's about 10" of snow to an inch of water. But a lot depends on other things such as air temperature, how "wet" the snow is, etc.
This is interesting:
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/weather/stories/10-Inches-of-Snow-Equal-1-Inch-of-Rain-Rumor-80740277.html
10" of snow = 1" of rain is what I'd heard long ago, but then there's dry snow and wet snow, so it varies. I'll check the USGS Drought Monitor Thursday. While, I don't expect dramatic improvement of the drought situation in the Midwest, I do expect some. You folks have suffered long enough.... and I'm not one of those who thinks suffering builds character, rather it just bites.
Snow melts slow and is far more beneficial to the ground saturation than rain is. Snow soaks in and rain runs off. Snow is better than rain.
It is winter, it is supposed to snow. With common sense everyone will be fine and some of the much needed moisture will be replenished.
LOL! Got to love redneck southerners they just don't know how to drive in snow. Keeps them from moving up north where the smart people live.
Hey - many of us have neither rednecks nor do we have problems driving in regular snow... we're smart enough not to get out in WHITEOUT conditions, preferring a warm cup of coffee and a cozy couch with a blanket. As to moving up north, it seems (at least in my state) there has been a steady mass movement of northerners that have moved TO my region, beginning with the demise of the auto industry up in Detroit back in the 1980's. Bless your heart. (Hint: down here, we use the phrase "bless your heart" to soften the blow of calling someone an IDIOT).
@H8TPARTY,
"Got to love redneck southerners they just don't know how to drive in snow"
First I LOVE the people in the South and get down there as often as possible. The food and friendly down to earth people just can't be beat. Many are not Rednecks as Cathy mentioned and are just educated, hard working people with a different culture. As for the Rednecks many of them are actually very nice and just real Charactors at heart.
" Keeps them from moving up north where the smart people live."
LOLZZZZZ....................I'm hoping that you don't consider yourself to be an example of the Smart People that you mention. Like it is such a Panacea up here - lolz HEY GENIUS times are tough all over regardless of ones political party or culture. Also I have met more than my fair share of DUMMIES up here in the North!
Please try and NOT be such an Arrogant, Pretentious, Self-Righteous Jacka$$ People like you give both sides of the political fence a bad name. At the end of the day we are all human beings and Americans.
Regards,
From a N.E. Ohio Liberal that lives in the heart of the Snowbelt about 15 minutes from our Amish in Middlefield (where 18" to 24" is common and often driven because it is normal HERE).
Brandon
Michigan is in the Mid-West. Bless your heart! Try a map sometime. I hear they sell them up north.
I love visiting the Southerners too, even the psuedo-Southerners in Ohio, very good people as a whole- don't blame all of them for what a significant minority- the TBaggers, other right wing nut jobs, and bible-thumpers, have done to those states (like destorying the States economies and educational systems) the past several decades.
Pushing for an all encompasing sex education that puts abstinence down the list because "kids will just do it" has provided an ever increasing number of single parents, abusive home situations, and the number of abortions. All have increased. ALL.
H8TPARTY , you are a Dumb A$$ Son of a Bit*h.
H8, there has been a long-term demographic trend -- 50+ years -- of people moving south, not north.
Many years ago I had a bumper sticker on my car: Make America Beautiful, Shoot a Redneck. I sincerely apologize for that.
All those smart folks in Chicago and Detroit?
Hey, H8, I live in Amarillo and we ain't no Southerners. This is "Way up North" Texas, very close to the Rockies. So we get this kind of weather occassionally and yes, there are a whole bunch of dumba$$ that will get out in this weather. But, I'd NEVER move up north, all us smart folks stay here in Texas, the #1 state for economic growth in the nation.
Bless your heart Shellie ... and check your map. Michigan is in the NORTH ... northern tier of states, north of the Mason Dixon Line, and north because it's just plain COLD.
Here's a geographical clue ... just because a state is in the "mid west" does NOT preclude it from being in the north! (Missouri would object to being called northern.)
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And of course I'm having a senior moment, can't think of the Stooges' Law firm. Scooter!
What came to mind for the Stooges' law firm was; Bleed'em, cheat'em, and howe didn't seem quite right so I looked it up. It's Dewey, Cheatem & Howe.
I think the government should ban all snow. It causes death and other problems.
I thought shovels were the problem?
I spent 2 days digging out my driveway from the last storm to hit the plains....only I live in Colorado and we got it a day before and never got any coverage....guess what, I got this storm yesterday and again no coverage....it is only snow, deal with it.....
There was coverage on here(nbcnews.com) about the snow in Colorado yesterday.
Matter of fact, there was several on the vine complaining that it was covered cause it was no big deal according to them.
Dayum all...welcome to New England in the winter.For us up here this kind of weathers' almost a weekly event here.75 mph? Try 85-90 mph clocked in on the Cape with heavy wet snow. Where I live right now I have around 20 inches on the ground with another foot expected Wednesday into Thursday with the high wind and thundersnow..zzz..normal..You guys ever hear of road salt there?I'm seein all these rigs and cars running into streetlights and such out there..wow.We almost never see that here unless we get ice on top of snow.Guys,man...put some weight in the back of your pickup trucks and use your 4WD! And for God sakes GO SLOW.Doesn't matter if you have 4wd or ABS brakes or whatever you cannot do the Daytona 500 in 18 inches of snow..I know I've tried it. I realized I was a dumbass!!
Dave, lived here all my life, we consistently have good snowfall, and it hasn't been 110 years since we had a good snow. We have had snow in the 25-30 inch range twice in the last 50 years. I was out all day today and didn't see a single accident, or anyone stuck. Had a good time because most people stayed home. But , that's the one thing you will learn about Texas weather, we had a white out this morning with 18 inches of snow, by 4 this afternoon TXDOT had roads clear, we were melting, and had no use for 4WD or FEMA.
Post 10.2 Dave. There's a difference between being a dumb ass and being inexperienced. Even when you do everything right, you still can end up in deep kimchi(sp).
Speaking of winter weather...why is it that right after schools the churches and religious organizations roll up the sidewalks during bad weather ? Right when the help they advetise they provide is needed most...hmmmm
Probably because they don't want a bunch of people from the forest making their yearly "pilgrimage" ....AKA... mooching trip.
Predictable and sorry response, Scooter. Try reading the actual story before responding and "treating" us with your nonsense.
@jaguar, you can ignore most of his posts. I never agree with him 99.9% of the time. Guess he thinks he's top dog or something. He sure has a lot of learning to do.
Good ole Dipstickintheforest...
Some where there is a stand of trees missing an idoit...
Pretty safe bet. seeing as how there is no such thing as a " lesser significant event" ....not anymore those all went away.
1. Raindrop = Huge wet storm
2. Snowflake=Huge White Storm
3. Running water= Flood of epic proportions
5. Breeze= Damaging high winds.
6. tornado / hurricane= The apocalypse is here
7. Any of the above = Global warming -Climate change
8. Posters going nuts= Posters going nuts
IA - awesome
Kornfed and Scooter are trolls who scan the vine just to be a pain in the butt to those making reasonable posts. Ignore them.
@Jaguar49,
"Kornfed and Scooter are trolls who scan the vine just to be a pain in the butt to those making reasonable posts. Ignore them."
Noooo not really.............In fact NOT even close. Scooter often visits the boards to pass some time, make a few people laugh, and in general be a good human being. When Scooter is serious he makes it quite apparent and he is fair as well. From a somewhat Conservative point of view anyway.
People from the Liberal and Conservative sides like Scooter and enjoy his company. As for Kornfed he is unique too but I will save his for another time. Kornfed is a Character though............. Love him or hate him he is an original :)
Regards,
Brandon - The Liberal
Hey, you stole that from the San Diego weather service. They were the first to report that .1 inches of rain with temps in the 50's is a severe winter storm (climate change you know). If you can feel the wind on your skin its gusting.
Put'er down lord. Anything to help with the drought conditions. IA., good one.
Here in "No Mans Land" the outside conditions are extremely treacherous. Whiteouts and drifts exceeding 2 1/2 ft. All highways are shut down and any travel is "at your own stupidity" with reservations only for dire emergencies. Currently, the average snow accumulation looks to be around 8 inches and climbing, I'm expecting around a foot of fresh snow with drifts close to 4 ft in some areas. Got the fireplace going with plenty of back-up firewood available and simmering some old fashioned veggie and chicken based stew, plus some home made cornbread with real butter. Playing with the grand kids and horse-n-around until scolded by Nana! LOL!
Sounds Nice.......
Well I see physicist is out again educating everyone with his quick-witted, i.e., somewhat sarcastic and condescending, responses.
The Winter storms in the Winter....what a shocker...hey the entire Nation NEEDS the Water..badly..and for those Anti-Warming people out there..We could get a storm a week for the rest of the winter and still NOT lift us out of the drought conditions around the Country...We are so so so very far behind on Moisture..It's not even funny...One or two cold snaps with snow ain't going to cut it for the farmers...and ranchers..no no..it's going to take allot more than that...I would love to see it happen..But..a couple of storms..It's a start...
Who knows mayhap the all tree huggers like me are wrong.......and were realy headed into a ICE AGE...Yea...right...I love to snow ski..but seriously we need much much more moisture than what were getting....MUCH MORE....
I'm not "Anti-Warming". I'm just appropriately suspicious that you can attribute this one event to global warming. I'm not a scientist but I have a trait that scientists should have in abundance: Skepticism.... about everything, especially their own beliefs, because that's hard. But it's better to spot your blunders yourself than to have others point them out first.
You sure never hear any skepticism about theory of climate change/global warming from any of it's true believers and proponents. To them, anything the "scientists" say is regarded as the gospel truth, never to be questioned or critically and scientifically verified. Logic and reason need not apply.
Last week Rajendra Pachuri the UN's Climate Chief, who was among the first Chicken Littles to warn of Global Warming, said "There has been a 17 tear interruption in "Global Warming". How many of you read it in the lamestream media? When he said Manhatten would be under three feet of water by now every paper covered it.
Another propaganda article by Murdoch's The Australian, written by prominent denier Graham Lloyd. You'll notice that Lloyd never actually quotes Pachuri, just paraphrases him (a huge red flag).
Over the past 17 years, the planet has accumulated the equivalent energy of detonating 3.7 Hiroshima atomic bombs per second, every second. It takes a fundamental misundertanding of the global climate to deny that immense amount of global warming.
From the group of scientists that can't control the common house fly...drum roll please...comes the power to control the weather...
Yeah, what's really hilarious is that they think they can do something to change the weather...control it if you will. Too effen funny.
Karma's a b!tch isn't it? When the Northeast was getting slammed, all these people were 'that's nothing, we get more, blah blah blah" Here's your karma!
Slam us everyday, we love it! And we dont whine!
We may get more global warming next winter to if it snows and it usually does ever winter somewhere....might even have some heat this summer to.
For a mere $500,000 contribution to Obama's "Organizing for Action" fund you can meet with President and let him know you are tired of the snow.
And remind me how this relates to the news story?
What I don't understand is why people have to get out and drive when there is a warning like these. I wouldn't take the chance and not even try. You know it's going to end badly. Around here when it says the mountains are in for a big blow and snow, people pay attention!!!
People still have heart attacks and have babies and get sick. I wonder about this too. Everyone should stay home. My sister works at a hospital in Pittsburg Kansas. She has to go to work. She has slid into the ditch because of snow too. I dont know. I would have to go to work too.
Were I come from it doesn't matter what the weather is, work comes first if your not there, and on time your in the wrong.If it says bad storm inbound,we set the alarm an hour or more ahead, and drive 15mph if we have to, of course we got 4 wheel drives etc.
Those workers that HAD to work today regardless of the elements, were shuttled to work by folks with 4-wheel dive vehicles. Later the National Guard was called out to use the big stuff. Has happened twice since 1970 her in Amarillo.
It's called winter.
And that period when it gets dark after 9-15 hours of light (in, say, Oklahoma).... that's called "night". It usually is colder then for reasons scientists on this page have not yet determined.
Boozer, about that period Darn mentioned called "NIGHT", DO NOT BE AFRAID, it too will go away!
Hey gang, it is winter and it snows!!!!
All proof of global farming. Especially in the plains.
Hey, I like that. Global warming.... in the plains. Can I use that?
Alledged woman molester Al Gore and his lackeys, cant keep selling the "global warming" nonsense , so now its called "climate change". And those poor polar bears that dont have ice to stand on in the Arctic,? well, 99.9% of humans will never go up there to check that out, so we will have to take the "experts" word on that wont we.
Thankfully the global climate change scientists also predict that no meteors or asteroids will come close to earth. Except for the ones they never saw coming.
Its all about the grant money or in Al Gore's case the carbon credits, that will be a million dollar(s) please.
hmmmm.... i'm glad this is happening now, instead of about ten days from now, when i expect to be driving on interstate 40. ------- the photo in the article reminds me of many small towns i used to drive thru this time of year when enroute from denver to minnesota.