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Subscribe to RSSA Florida man was shot and wounded over the weekend by his dog, who walked away without charges, police said.
Gregory Dale Lanier, 35, of Frostproof, Fla., told police Saturday that he and his dog were in their truck in nearby Sebring when the dog kicked a gun that was on the truck's floor, the Highlands Tribune newspaper reported.
The gun went off, shooting Lanier in the leg, Sebring police said.
Lanier wasn't seriously injured, said Sebring Police Cmdr. Steve Carr, who actually said police didn't arrest the dog because the investigation was pending, the Tribune reported.
He also said he had never heard of a similar case.
According to the police report, Lanier said he was driving along State Road 17 North when the dog kicked "the unloaded .380 pistol." It went on to say that Lanier was "surprised" to learn not only that the gun was loaded, but also that it was actually a 9mm weapon, not a .380.
The incident is only the latest in a string of bizarre shootings in Florida. Just last week, a woman in St. Petersburg was wounded when she was shot by a friend's oven.
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WHAT has this to do with the $16,000,000,000,000 Debt ??
Everything! Because it's a dog's life, don't'cha know?
Nothing, it is just more fun with guns.
Another
boneheadlaw abiding citizen with a gun.If guns are illegal, only dogs will have guns.
Better check out this dog. A man was shot by his dog in Texas a few years ago. Same MO. Maybe he has had plastic surgery to avoid identification and is really a serial shooter. Thank God he's a bad shot.
I like the other story it referenced in the last paragraph. The woman who got shot by the oven. Can you image if those two got together and had kids? ®¿®
It seems to me that one would expect these stories would occur in any given state at a ratio of approximately 1 in 50. It seems to me as well that approximately 1 in 3 of these 'events' occurs in Florida.
Is it just me?
flnobody:
Well sure. There'd be a dog in the oven, a wife on the floor of the truck, and a kid gnawing on a bone under the porch.
The only thing that can stop a bad dog with a gun is a good dog with a gun.
Hummmmmmmm .... another of those CIA secretly trained countert-terrorist dogs gone nuts ...when he earned he was to replaced by a drone ...
The dog believed that he was going to be spayed. He stood his ground. He'll get off.
Ban dogs
Next Progressive legislation:
Yep, that will take care of all the biting dogs.
Wait a minute....the Progressive thinks dogs should have a day in court.
LoL!! A Dog? Seriously?
Now we can't even hide behind "People Kill People".
OK Guns don't kill people, dogs kill people.
(sorry, just had to put that down)
We need to do better background checks on dogs!!!
This isn't all that uncommon ... but usually Police Dogs are the shooters!
Anything to distract you from the REAL ISSUES that America faces right now. Leave it to MSNBC fair and balanced reporting. I say we ban reporters that don't report news but who skew it and produce nothing but propaganda to fit their agenda, bu..bye...MSNBC.
Seriously - where would we be without Florida? The news would be so boring without our stories. We're like the circus state.
Their kids would be "hot dogs". Lol
The only thing that stops a bad dog with a gun, is a good dog with a gun.
I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself.
Stupid bubblegum.
I'm sure the dog will use the Stand Your Ground defence. The dog owner says it was a Un-loaded 380, he was shot with his Loaded 9 mil. When you don't even know what caliber of gun you own and can't tell if it's loaded or not, your a good canadate for a background check. I can tell you the maker, model and caliber of every gun I own. And I sure as hell don't leave any of them lying on the floor of my truck loaded or un-loaded.
So you all feel safer, in FL Dade county a certain breed of dogs is outlawed. Numerous , HOA's outlaw dogs over 30 pounds.
So what what you want in gun control, has already started in dog control. You're much safer now.......
I'm sure you want that nation wide:-) How many breeds are over 30 pounds??
Hmmm, what's next? Outlawing people over a certain weight? A person could get real hurt if someone weighing over 250 lbs. fell on them.
You people are hilarious. Past that I think the dog was off his meds
Did the dog know it was a loded 9mm and not an unloaded .380?
Guns don't kill people ..... dogs do.. That's a new one.
Pro Freedom -- I would've paid you $100 not to have posted that. That joke is so tired, it's a corpse.
Why Annie?
When you and your posse invented the term....
Pro Freedom will give you a $1,000.00 to just go away.... He's the book keeper and that's all the donations he received from us "other" guys....
Take it or leave it...
"When you and your posse invented the term..."
Is jumping to conclusions the only exercise you get? Why don't YOU just go away with all your unoriginal thoughts?
Sarah...
Someotherguy beat you to the punch line...1.9
Damn it! How about this...
You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead paws.
Ok...
that's a pretty good one!
thank god the dog didn't get shot !!!who cares about the stupid human that did !!
I read this one before the internet was real popular and saw it later on one of those TV shows about bazaar incidents/accidents. A few years ago I was telling some folks at work about it and they laughed me to the ground so I found it on the internet and printed it out and showed it to them.
http://articles.latimes.com/1992-04-25/news/mn-901_1_turkey-shotgun-triggering
Moral of the story: never trust an animal with a gun.
The 2nd ammendment gives us the right to 'arm bears'? I think I got that right.
I wounder if he said dog gone that hurt!
flnobody, quit trying to scare people.
Idiot!! Doesn't know what kind of gun he owns or if it's even loaded. This kind of idiot is what gives other gun owners a bad name. Smh...
Sarah, pretty funny stuff, but your agenda is still foiled:
Guns save good people's lives every day. My ex-girlfriend became a believer after an encounter with a thug on the beach in Galveston Texas at 11:30pm November 19th 1998. We were casually walking on the beach late at night when I had to use my .380 to stop 5 gang members trying to initiate a new 16 year old member who was suppose to "jump us" SUPRISE... his eyes could be seen a million miles away looking down the barrel... we still laugh about it today and the sight of all five them running for there lives :)
Was the dog wearing a hoodie?
No, it had to have been the human wearing the hoodie because that's the reason he was shot.
If the paw doesnt fit you must acquit. Too bad since the dog passed the background check now he will walk free.
Texas or Florida.
Nearly every time you see a story about some whackjob being careless with a weapon and someone ends up getting shot, you can count on the story coming from Texas or Florida.
To try to put it delicately, from time to time we see news stories about (presumably) lonely men engaging in, um, certain activities with livestock. Ahem.
Do we ever see such stories on the canine front?
If so, this situation could be a case of self-defense. Was the shooting preceded by barking or howling that sounded like, "Hey, Greg, I'm not a damn sheep. KNOCK THAT OFF!!!"?
TheMan-1285490
Are you sure it wasnt a 9mm? :P
Ha Ha Hakstarr... Ask the little thug that question he's probably in his 30s by now... hopefully he's changed his ways :)
Lanier said he was driving along State Road 17 North when the dog kicked "the unloaded .380 pistol." It went on to say that Lanier was "surprised" to learn not only that the gun was loaded, but also that it was actually a 9mm weapon, not a .380.
Not only does he know that the gun was loaded, but he didn't know what type of gun he owned? Glad the dog wasn't arrested, however Lanier should have been for being stupid!
If the collar doesn't fit, you must aquit...
Can you seriously even believe this liberal propaganda? NO gun owner doesn't know what caliber his weapon is, and I can't think of a single pistol that can fire by being stepped on by a dog. A purely fabricated story to further the gun control agenda.
Darryl Did anyone ever tell you you was an idiot!! If a gun is loaded and the safteyboff any thing or body could discharge it if the trigger was pushed or pulled. Any fool would know that. You qualify for not owning a gun. .
yep, and the guy never shot his self in the butt at the movies.
>Zannie84: Not only does he know that the gun was loaded, but he didn't know what type of gun he owned?
Google for the .380 ACP, it is also known as a 9mm Browning or a 9mm Short.
Only in Florida.
Now will you stop buying the cheap dog food.
Hilarious! - Florida has to be the stupidest state in the Union.
I'm almost ashamed to admit I was born there.....
The dog probably did it BECAUSE he was being fed the cheap dog food from Walmart.... I strongly recommend a better grade food....
The gene pool could use some chlorine !
9mm kurz actually but no one with knowledge of guns would ever call it a 9mm.
Gun control would be most effective with a stupidity test before anyone could buy or possess a firearm. That would take millions of weapons out of the hands of the type of people that would get shot by their dog.
Gregory & Rover met at high noon outside the tavern in Frostproof, FL after a long time quarrel about humping on Gregory's leg.
Michael Vick should be thankful his dogs never got their paws on one of his firearms.
I bet the dog ate his homework and then shot him.
The reason the guy didn't know the calber of the gun was that it wasn't his gun. It belonged to the dog, who DID have a CCW, and the shooting was NOT accidental. Dogs down here in Florida are smarter than most of the Northern carpetbaggers that float down South when it gets cold. Trust me, you do not want to piss this dog off, and don't event think of buying that cheap Wal-Mart dog food for him, or he WILL put a cap in yer azz !
No Ashley, people who want to commit murder are more likely to own a gun. It doesn't work the other way.
Statements like that remind me of the study a few years ago that concluded that men who use prostitutes are more likely to beat women. No, men who beat women are more likely to use prostitutes than men who don't beat women. It's amazing how these things can get twisted around.
Ashley, don't know where you're getting your statistics (some obscure court briefing) unless it is mainly from the some of the main stream media propaganda, but you are intirely wrong. Those with illegal (stolen) guns are the ones most likely to commit murder. As they are already criminals, they have no consience to take it a step further as well as their intention to commit a crime when stealing/buying a stolen gun. As for this story, I have seen a gun go off by simply being dropped on a rock. Remember folks, do do happens and sometimes that do do is nothing but stange bad luck.
How do they know the shooting wasn't intentional? Maybe the guy is also a terrible dog owner.
Ashley,
Do you think gang bangers are legal gun owners? You know, the ones that kill more people than all the nut jobs combined. The media never reports on the daily killings by the gangs. They bias media doesn't report them because it doesn't fit the agenda.
After interviewing the dog further, the police determined that the dog was upset about having been neutered.
This anti gun crusade is almost comical. Same old dull minds coming on here and spewing there same old party line. This time mostly in a weak attempt at humor.
Most of these dim-bulbs wouldn't understand what true liberty was if it smacked them in the face.
I profusely apologized to my dog before she was spayed. I'm pretty sure that's why I wasn't shot.
No paw prints and drool on the Gun, ya must acquit...woof woof
The only thing that can stop a bad dog with a gun is a good dog with a gun!
Proving once again that many gun owners do not register as high on the intelligence scale as their dogs. No doubt he beat the dog. The dog saw his chance and took it. In Florida it's perfectly justifiable under the 'stand your ground' statute. He's lucky the dog didn't bite him. That would have been a crime.
Hey Darryl, did you confer with your other brother Darryl.
Sounds like this jacka$$ shot himself and blamed it on the the dog.
You're obviously not averse to sweeping generalizations, are you? I could say that your post "proves once again that people who don't like gun owners use sweeping generalizations to describe 'many' gun owners" but I won't do that because I recognize that anomalies and anecdotal evidence are really not evidence of anything at all. There are millions of idiots in this world and it is just as likely as not for those idiots to own guns.
I think this is an amusing story. One stupid guy gets his comeuppance. It's a shame that the comments had to be bogged down by people who are afraid of guns.
Maybe the guy had it coming....you dunno......
Make me run and fetch that stupid stick 50 times again sucka!!! You KNOW I have OCD!!!
Why now are all these stories of how a firearm injured someone in a freak accident starting to show up?
Last week it was the article "Woman shot by her Oven"...no kidding!
Blame the dog. Right... We get blamed for eating kids' homework - and now we're shooting guns? If it was me, I'd bite the guy on the leg for being a stupid twit.
Ban all dogs..............................
Please secede from the Union, Florida. Your gene pool is hopelessly polluted and your RWNJ gun fanatics driving F150's don't have 2 brain cells to rub together. Oh, and take Alabama and Miss. with you.
CRAP! I better hide my gun, just got my kitten neutered yesterday! lol Thanks for the laugh floyd!
So much for the argument that guns don't kill people
Of course, you know the guy wasn't a democrat, right? Wait, no you don't. It's just easy for small-minded bigots like yourself to generalize a whole part of the country and demand they leave. Idiot.
Mandatory background checks and liability insurance for all dogs!
Americans are a group of people who spend their time reacting to salacious tidbits of dribble put forth by the media. This is yet another poorly written article. Shame on you. You should demand better.
The dog could have told any story and got away with it. After all, dogs don't have hands and fingers. Dubious story though.
I find the most humor in the fact that the NBC writer has written this story as if it may be remotely credible, and might be of some interest. Using the standards of this article, NBC might do a story on a lunatic reporting to police that aliens are in his attic building a space ship to return home to their planet. I cant wait to read about that! Oh wait, I forgot. The alien would have to be armed with a firearm, or even better an "assault weapon" to be news worthy. Is this what passes for real journalism? If the mans dog would have distracted him and he drove into a tree killing himself instantly, we would have never read about it. But with a gun involved ...... stop the presses. This is something that must be covered! LOL!!!! No adgenda here !!!!!
We're not all like that. In any other country, this would be a story for the laugh reel. That's what it should be here.
A three-legged dog walks into a bar with a gun and says, "I'm lookin' for the man what shot my paw!"
Padump Tsshh! *Rimshot*
And meanwhile in Georgia, they stayed the execution of a man with an IQ of 70. They said it would be inappropriate to kill the most intelligent man in the state!
@ Patrick Hanna -
Dont be offended by the Northern and West coast liberals. Actually, its too bad the South can't secede again. We have already put to rest the evils of slavery, which in hind sight was the ONLY downfall to the Confederacy. Let me ask you this, is there really a downside to not being under the control of Washington, DC today? Washington has put America over 16 trillion dollars in debt under their leadership. They continue to borrow money like your spoiled 13 year old daughter with no end in sight. How could another "confederacy" of States do any worse than 16 trillion in debt, no jobs, soaring crime rates, and a government that refuses to do anything about illegal immigration? If you even bring up the topic, you're labeled a racist ..... I dont know, maybe there is something to that phrase "government for the people by the people" ..... maybe we should give it a try. The only downside I can see is if Florida did sucessfully secede from the Union, property value in Florida would increase so dramatically you probably couldnt afford to live there.
oobuck
I live near and work in Pittsburgh, PA. (though I am not a Steelers fan) I like Pennsylvania, and I don't want to have to show my passport to drive into Florida. I would rather just slice fifty miles from both coasts and leave the rest intact.
This was obviously premeditated!
The dog simply got tired of getting the blame every time the guy farted. 0_o
Gumps, you forgot to mention all the gas that Grandpa passes and blames the dog for! We'd better hope they don't watch the news, or they'll all be up in arms after getting the idea from this pooch.
Update after posting: Spiddas, seriously, I hadn't refreshed my screen and didn't see yours when I typed this! Great minds think alike. ;)
Stupid stupid stupid.
might want to look up exactly what a .380 auto is...
Other names for .380 ACP include .380 Auto, 9mm Browning, 9mm Corto, 9mm Kurz, 9mm Short, and 9×17mm. So the owner didn't know that .380 auto is the same thing as 9mm Kurz...so freaking what.
freaking libs sicken me with their stupidity.
@ Patrick Hanna -
Thats the best idea yet. If states could secede, the model you suggest would probably be the end result.
Hello, yes this is dog.
What up dawg............
I had to scratch my @ss because of the fleas. It's the fleas fault not mine.....Dog.
Warren, it has NOTHING to do with the debt. Sorry you did not realize this until AFTER you read the entire story.....duh
A good reason for gun control, lmao
Nah, the dog can just invoke "stand your ground" laws. It's all just business as usual.
A good reason for pet control.
Thank God for smart dogs.
its a dog shoot human world.
If it had been a cat, this sucka would have been dead. Ban cats.
Next time the dag says to slow down, do it !
Does Miranda apply to a dog suspected of shooting his owner?
Why did you do it Fido?
Well, basically, my onwer is an idiot and he embarrasses me, so I shot him. I want a new owner.
If the man had died would they have put him in a doggie bag?
Who let the dogs out?
Dog - Remember when you neutered me?
Man - Yeah. so what.
Dog - Just wanted to make sure you knew why I am shooting you - Bang !
mistaking a .380 for a 9mm... you must be joking.
Can you seriously even believe this liberal propaganda? NO gun owner doesn't know what caliber his weapon is, and I can't think of a single pistol that can fire by being stepped on by a dog. A purely fabricated story to further the gun control agenda.
You are a mental case and shouldn't be allowed to have a gun, Darryl Loaded gun safty off a dogs paw stepping in the trigger guard would surely fire the gun any one witha ny common sense would know that.
If true, he must be a liberal who knows nothing about guns. You don't even need to be a gun enthusiast to see "9mm" stamped on the side. He probably thought he owned a .380 ACP "assault weapon."
>Archer32 mistaking a .380 for a 9mm... you must be joking.
Google for the .380 ACP. The article doesn't say precisely what make & model it is, but a .380 ACP is also known as a 9mm Browning or a 9mm Short.
OK - I'll admit I know nothing about guns, but... wouldn't you kinda need to know what type of gun you own in order to buy ammunition and load the damn thing in the first place? Or do guys like this just walk into a gun store with it and say "I need those things that shoot out of this thing!" ?
"mistaking a .380 for a 9mm... "
They're similar sized - and don't call me Joking.
@Darrel,
If the gun was on the floor AND it was in full battery (safety off, hammer pulled back, round in the chamber) it would not take much force to cause the trigger to activate the mechanism. Let's just say for discussion that the dog innocently had one of his paws on the trigger and guard, truck swerves to avoid a pothole, the dog shuffles to maintain an upright position, bang. Seems possible to me.
But the stupid gun owner should not be driving around with a gun in full battery in my opinion, besides not knowing the caliber. What a piece of work.
Huh? If he was a liberal, he probably wouldn't have a gun.
Sam Adams, your an idiot. There are many liberal gun owners in this country, including myself. You right wing nut jobs are so hilariously ill informed and stupid.
If he was a liberal he would have been transporting the gun in a legal fashion.
But if he was a Republican he would have been transporting the dog on the roof.
If he was a liberal he would have been selling the gun at a buy back so he could compensate for his low wages and lower IQ.
Mike. You are lower than the RWNJ you attack. And if you haven't noticed, sam adams is a stupid liberal. Just like you.
Maybe the dog was McRuff and he took a bite out of crime.
Not really hard to confuse a .380 auto with a 9mm...seeing as a .380 auto and a 9mm Kurz are the exact same round.
Oh, you dumbasses didn't know that, huh?
Other names for .380 ACP include .380 Auto, 9mm Browning, 9mm Corto, 9mm Kurz, 9mm Short, and 9×17mm.
Freaking idiots.
Since no one was seriously hurt, I have to say this is funny, albeit the victim is double-dumb, not securing the weapon, and not even knowing what he had on board. Even as a shooter and (Gasp!) NRA member, I gotta grant this type needs some 'gun control.'
Another "successful defense against an intruder."
King, this case is closed. How about some cheese?
I lol'd.
First a stove in Florida shoots a women, now a dog in Florida shoots a man, wtf is next, maybe winning the war on drugs in Florida, lol.
tom:
They're going to secede from the Union, build a bridge to Cuba, and call themselves "Flocuba".
A few months ago it was a man 'Eating anothers mans face' after he was taking 'bath salts'...
It should not be a war on Illegal Drugs, just remove the IDIOTS and let the druggies overdose/die...
Must be the heat and humidity which drives our citizens bat sh!t crazy.
@SDN; When Rubio becomes president thatswhat he will do build a bridge to Cuba with the tax payers money_— He is a Cuban and would be able to drive back and forth to visit the Castros. Won't secede but Rubio will make Cuba another state.
More fear mongering and conspiracy theories from the idiots on the left. Rubio would probably only build a bridge so the idiots could walk back home.
Need any more proof of a revolving door for illegals, look to your messiah, OBAMA. In and out all day and ever time they come through, they have a baby and get $200 for passing go.
Say what!!!..............Florida has illegals? No way...................I thought they were all citizens...........This isn't Texas or Arizona we're talking about.......Crazy world.
LOL at people dumb enough to believe this story
What............I beleive the dude in the article is that dumb. Why is that dumb?
Well...thepunisher-2054749
the fact that you didn't pick up the little fact that .380 auto and 9mm kurz (9mm short) are the same round...that a .380 auto IS a 9mm weapon...
(Other names for .380 ACP include .380 Auto, 9mm Browning, 9mm Corto, 9mm Kurz, 9mm Short, and 9×17mm.) proves that you didn't employ due diligence and you actually BELIEVE the nonsense NBC puts out...
Might want to check THEIR facts before YOU open your mouth.
I believe in Gun Owners should be held responsible for crimes committed with their UNSECURED GUNS...
This owner should be charged and have his ability to ever own a gun REMOVED...
Support the NEW EOs concerning; BG screening of gun owners/purchasers, a Federal 'Clearing House' and removal of HIPAA restrictions...
Make your Judges & DA follow the current 'federal sentencing guidelines,' if you commit a crime with a gun...
BTY - I'm a current gun owner with a CCW and gun safe...
AC Robertson: Your normally more on the mark in your posts. "Federal 'Clearing House' and removal of HIPAA restrictions..."
Ok, the VA , estimates 30% of returning vets have PSTD .
Janet say's veteran groups are potential terrorists.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/16/napolitano-stands-rightwing-extremism/?page=all
So they fought to secure the corporation money you enjoy.
But, upon returning , should lose their Constitutional Rights???
I am really not sure what this has to do with guns, if this man is this irresponsible - why is he allowed to own a car and a pet?!
Do you think stupidity extends only to firearms when he is directing a several thousand pound vehicle down a highway with CHILDREN nearby?
Will removing only is guns suddenly make this man an intellectual dynamo, capable of safe and rational use of all of his machinery, and exercising good judgement at all times?
Its funny to see so many of you assume he is stupid because he is a gun owner, and then support gun control. You need to realize he is stupid and happens to be a gun owner, but that his stupidity is not dependent on his property ownership!
Scar-481986,
I did my time in Iraq, BTY - NO PSTD...
If I was diagnosed with a mental problem/anger managementissues, I should not be allowed to have access to a GUN. My CCW requires physical/mental screening, every 5+years...
Being allowed to operate vehicles and heavy equipment, is also regulated by licenses backed-up with regular health exams...
Service to your country does not entitle you to any rights, the average Citizen does not have, until it comes to earned benefits...
BTY - LEGAL Gun ownership comes with responsibilities and the expectation to be held ACCOUNTABLE...
"I believe in Gun Owners should be held responsible for crimes committed with their UNSECURED GUNS..."
Huh, so if a gun owner pulls out a gun to protect his family from an intruder, but somehow the intruder takes the gun away from him cause it's not secure. Then uses it to murder everyone in the house, the gun owner should still be charged? For some reason, I think your light bulb went out a long time ago, may be its time to change it.
Maybe they didn't arrest the dog because he didn't have his papers and the police would get accused of profiling or they knew ICE would just release him any ways claiming they can't afford to incarcerate him because of budget cuts.
How do you know the dog is a him? You're being sexist.
Funny that the reporter doesn't specify the dog's breed. Apparently the type of breed isn't relevant unless it's a pit bull because, you know, they are more dangerous to society than dumb idiots leaving loaded guns on the floor of their cars pointed at themselves. Just an observation.
we should put all pit bulls down. if we can save one child's life we have to do something.
Well, if we're on the subject of saving one child's life, then we better be neutering all of the dummies like this Florida man who does not have enough common sense to properly secure his firearm. What if it had been a child in the car instead of a dog? People need to wake up and look at the more prevalent danger to society--improper care of firearms, not dog attacks.
That is the basis of "control" by government standards of the leftist approach. Just saying.
AG818, since they didn't mention the race of the dog it must have been a black Lab.
Sax please tell me you're being facetious, while I'm not a big fan of pitbulls there one breed I hate even more, poodles. But I would never say something as inane as "they should all be put down."
AG spot on.
I'm with AG, by not enabling child into this world by idiots like this dude. Would that still be saving a child's life?
Ban guns, ban trucks, and ban dogs. That way NONE of this will ever happen. Fool proof.
If we ban Florida too, then anything bad related to or in Florida will stop too.
Now THIS IS the best argument I've seen for gun control. Guns don't shoot people, dogs with guns do.
Unless your a DEA agent in which case yo shoot yourself in a room full of children.
Don't the left believes only law enforcement are responsible enough to have guns.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP6UvNgbqIA
The dog felt like he had to "stand his ground"!
Hate to break it to you.
But a 380 is a 9mm caliber weapon . 9mm KURZ
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.380_ACP
If you need help with the concept ....imagine a 9mm short .
And this is a example of the rabid stupidity used by the anti-gun community to write new laws.
"It went on to say that Lanier was "surprised" to learn not only that the gun was loaded, but also that it was actually a 9mm weapon, not a .380."
These, experts, feel empowered to write new firearms regulations.
How long has the anti-gun community been around?? Why can't they get firearms history right??
If you oppose something, shouldn't you study the object of your activism first??
Or do you think ignorance on the subject, is a plus when writing new laws and regulations??
I oppose the ease with which guns can be bought by people who are not qualified to handle guns.
This fellow, who was shot by his dog, does not know how to handle a firearm. If he had not been shot, some whacko walking along would have seen the gun on the floor of his truck, and stole it.
But that's OK, the guy could just go out and buy another one.
So Davey, you deny the basis of my post is false??
Bwtn. us I'm a Democrat, a gun owner, and my target weapons are in a locked safe, never in a vehicle except enroute to a range.
I'd feel a lot better , if people wanting new laws affecting a Constitution Right. Actually, knew something about weaponry?? Too much to ask???
pot.kettle.black
In popular nomenclature, "9mm" refers to 9x19mm Luger (Parabellum), not .380 ACP (9x17mm). There are a large number of other 9mm cartridges, but only one is known as "the" 9mm.
AL Kyda:
Guess you didn't hit the link: Why learn something????
"Other names for .380 ACP include .380 Auto, 9mm Browning,9mm Corto, 9mm Kurz, 9mm Short, and 9×17mm. It is not to be confused with .38 ACP, 9mm Makarov or 9mm Luger."
Like I said ...9mm Short??? You are referring to 9mm luger.
Yup, your an example of my post.
Yes, that's an alternate name for .380, but it's seldom used. Walk into any gun store and ask for 9mm. They'll give you 9mm Luger, not 9mm Short, 9mm Makarov or any other 9mm.
Walk into any gun store and say 9mm Kurz, Short, Makarov (especially, casing) , and they give you 9mm Luger???
Advice, NEVER go back there again. They do not know weaponry, and should not be in that business.
But, legislators & activists , should study their subject . It is after all, their business.
By the way, 9mm Kurz is how the round is referred to in Europe.
Can you be more specific? What do you want me to know, about guns?
Why isn't it enough to just know that in the US, the most commonly used murder weapon is a gun? Especially, a hand gun. Like this dog used to shoot his stupid, hand gun owning, master.
Do you think it is a good idea for any moron to be able to buy a hand gun?
Ok Davey: refer to the original post:
Do you have a problem with anti-gun proponents educating themselves on the subject??
Do you object to accuracy on the subject??
Now you ask my vision??
I recommend trigger locks sold with every weapon.
I recommend a free state authorized training/safety class with every weapon.
I recommend , the end of plea bargaining & parole with every violent criminal. Release, if needed the non - violent early.
I recommend enhancement of our mental health care system , and research into drugs that might be attached to reported tragedies.
But, If you want to treat the Bill of Rights as a rag??? We have a problem.
Scar is right. 9mm Luger and .380 ACP (aka 9mm Short) are both technically 9mm.
I think his original point was that the media wants to make this guy out to be a bigger idiot than he is, and by extension smear gun owners as being too stupid to even know that caliber their firearms are.
Don't get me wrong - I'm not sticking up for anyone who is driving around with a loaded handgun, or anyone who doesn't have their firearms safely controlled. However, the media is trying to paint this guy (and by extension all gun owners) as not even knowing what type of guns they own - when the fact is the .380 ACP is widely known as a 9mm Browning or a 9mm Short.
Al Kyda is kinda correct in one context - if you walk into a store and ask to see a 9mm handgun, they are unlikely to grab a .380 ACP - they are more likely to think you want to see a ''real 9mm''. However, if you have a .380 ACP in hand and refer to it as a 9mm Browning, they are also not going to correct you either.
So,
1) there's no excuse for driving around with a loaded weapon
2) there's no excuse for not knowing if your weapon is loaded or not
3) there's no excuse for a 'journalist' who misleads people into thinking this guy didn't know his caliber
rag???
Inflame much?
Can you think of any way to let responsible people have guns, and for irresponsible people to not be able to easily get guns?
Forget about the 2A. Let's pretend that we are writing the constitution for a new country (not the US, some country in central Asia). We want to balance gun ownership with public safety.
What kind of law could we write that would allow responsible people to easily get guns, and people who do not demonstrate a 'certain level of responsibility' to not be able to buy guns.
davey-526272,
Thailand has a few simple Gun Laws:
1. Possession of a unregistered Military style gun = LIFE in JAIL...
2. Possession of a unregistered gun 32cal or below = 5+years in JAIL or LIFE - if larger caliber...
3. Possession of EXCESSIVE amounts of ammunition = 5+years in JAIL...
4. A person can only obtain a weapons permit/registration, if they can PROVE a need for it...
5. Foreigners can NEVER possess LEGAL guns...
BTY - Thailand's Violent crime rate involving a gun is 5x the USA rate and the average gun cost over 5x what it would in the USA...
After the National Thai Elections - A person fired a unregistered pistol into the air. The bullet came down, went through a tin roof and KILLED a sleeping child. Using Bangkok's CCTV and microphones, the POLICE located and CONVICTED the person that fired the shot...
Ban handguns.
No, I wrote "ask for 9mm." If you ask for 9mm Kurz (Short), hopefully they'd give you that, but you're better off asking for .380, the designation far more popular in the US.
AC, I would say that Thailand has a gun problem.
Closer to home, when Canada enforced stricter gun laws, their murder rate went down.
The point is the author of the article was trying to make the gun owner appear even more stupid by saying that the gun was a 9mm and not a .380, when all he accomplished was making himself look stupid because a .380 round is 9mm.
ban takenaka who wants to ban our 2nd ammendment rights so lets take his 1 st ammendment rights as payback , if the 2nd falls all of the others will follow
Just out of curiosity, what ever happened to the 10mm round? Do they even produce pistols using that round anymore? And isn't the .40 caliber basically a 10mm Short?
Woof was exercising his second amendment rights.
The NRA says that we should enforce existing gun laws, not burden citizens with additional restrictions. Unfortunately, there are no laws against irresponsibility or stupidity.
Doesn't the left believe only law enforcement are responsible enough to have guns.
Watch as a trained professional, the only one in the room professional enough he knows to handle the Glock .40, a trained DEA agent giving a gun safety class to a room full of children, shoot himself in the foot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP6UvNgbqIA
Yeah, that's a pretty old one. Pointing to it went out of style years ago.
How would you know you've barely been a vine member for a half a year. I'm guessing your another fare weather Obama fan who jumped on board so he can feel like he's part of something special.
I'm pretty confident you'll disappear just like all the rest as soon as the going starts to get a little rough.
For ages, people have pointed to that video on lots of sites, not just Newsvine. It was hot for a couple years or so, but people moved on to other things. Just search for all the other gun fails on YouTube.
Can't beat the classics.
Of course you totally miss the point that police are just as human and fallible as everyone else, after all they were private citizens at one time, and will be again, and even with all their training, even they can make a mistake.
Just because you have seen it a thousand times doesn't mean every else has.
Here's another classic for you, a little off topic, or is it, considering NBC is posting every gun story they can to support the lefts agenda?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wave_(TV_special)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVRXXbU-z7U
How many people out there know that almost all mass media in the U.S. is owned by only five corporations?
http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/mind-control-theories-and-techniques-used-by-mass-media/
Just getting around to Brave New World, 1984, are you?
Thanks for the suggestion Jody. I just finished the Hunger Games trilogy a little while ago. I'm afraid for the last few years my head was in C#, C++, Java, HTML/XML, Introduction to World Religions, etc text books.
I looked it up and it sounds similar to Demolition Man, Logans Run, George Orwells 1984, etc. I keep hearing the term Soilent Green once in awhile and think I will look that up also. I used to be big into Robert A.Heinlein and Piers Anthony. Jack London is one of my favorite authors.
Al Kyda,
Carrying a gun in your vehicle, that can be reached by the driver - Is ILLEGAL unless the driver has a CCW in most States...
Was the gun unregistered??? This is also a crime in many States...
Having a loaded gun UNSECURED is a crime in many States...
In some States having ammunition in a vehicle, is a crime...
Carrying a unsecured loaded gun under the seat. Is just STUPID and should be against the Law...
The driver should have; his gun seazed, a trip to the EMD and then released to JAIL, for a visit with the Judge...
If there were laws against irresponsibility or stupidity the entire congress & the president would be incarcerated.
The cops tried to cuff the dog but they kept sliding off.
I always say be sure your gun turns on you and yours, not me and mine. Apparently in Florida this is working!
Another example of redneck inbreeding... not the dog
When are we going to pass laws to keep guns out the paws of these unstable dogs! What if the dog had shot someone in school? Congress please act now!
Wait just a minute. If we don't allow all dogs to have guns, then only bad dogs are going to have them!
Yeah, MSNBC reaches a new low every day. Infiltrated by low-life liberal scum bags. What a bunch of low life P'sOS.