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Subscribe to RSSA family in suburban Genoa is upset with their son's teacher after he was told to remove his father's U.S. Marines T-shirt.
According to the Daily Chronicle, the Genoa-Kingston Middle School teacher objected to the 14-year-old boy's shirt because it displayed intersecting rifles across the chest.
The teacher reportedly told the student that the shirt was against school policy.
The boy's father, Daniel McIntyre, contacted FOX News after the incident, who reached out to school administrators who weren't aware of the situation.
School officials said had they known about the incident, the teacher's decision would have been overruled.
The dress code prohibits images depicting alcohol, drugs, violent behavior and offensive symbols, the newspaper reported.
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I smell lawsuit and a fired teacher.
How can you tell when liberals have gotten out of control?
I hope so jackieboy.
The Marines against the Chicago Teachers Union This should be an interesting assault.
When is the last time a teacher was fired?
A male teacher was accused by several female middle school students of molesting them and he was removed... to sit in a room reading a book and drawing his salary until he retires, at which time he will draw his pension and other benefits.
Teachers are never fired, merely reshuffled. Pedophile priests have nothing on them.
The unions probably have the Marines outgunned. And they are much more ruthless.
What is happening to our country and our schools? It does seem to me that in some parts of the country, teachers are bringing their bias into the classroom and forcing their beliefs down our students throats. She doesn't like the military....just like the teacher who made a kid turn his Romney shirt inside out. Liberal, progressive teachers are the majority now teaching our kids and I do not support their views.
Yet in Connecticut your shirt can scream, "No Fags" and the ACLU will stick up for you.
Screminmimi,
When a teacher is accused of something, anything, they are sent to a room to remove them from the classroom while their DUE PROCESS is handled. If they are found to be in the wrong then they are then fired and can lose their license. If every job handled complaints this way, giving equal say to both the accuser and the accused, we all would be better off. I'll ask it to you this way, what if it was a lie? Should he have been fired and branded a pedophile if it wasn't true?
Humm, the marines emblem does not include crossed firearms.
Any other shirt with the image of assault rifles on it would be banned. So just because it also says "marines" makes it ok?
The teacher probably overreacted, but this wasn't exactly a cut and dry situation.
Not seeing where it says symbols of guns are banned.
Um, there are several Marine Corp unit emblems that do include crossed rifles. Also some include crossed swords, crossed knives, crossed cannons... what else offends your delicate senses that you feel should be banned?
For the sake of argument honestdebate, it would fall under the broad and undefined "offensive symbols"
Or did you not read what you just copy/pasted ?
Now the parent know the teacher has a very thin skin, just put another shirt on, maybe one that say "those that can't do .... teach". No need to contact Fox News over it, unless you crave attention.
Almost all schools ban gun symbols as "violent". It is very common.
I did not state it offended me. I just realize that depictions of firearms is often a cut and dry taboo in most schools. The context of the image is the only thing that makes this an exception to the general rule.
Oh, i believe that, but that is not what they claim to be banning. ' Violent behavior' is not pictures of guns, that is just the liberal school system's concept of guns.
"If you don't hate guns, you are a violent person"
Sad but true.
After what has happened in schools with guns the picture of guns the kids father a marine should have had more common sense with the policy that is in place, he was playing the system. With the debates on gun control and the policy in that school there is no way he didn't know what he was doing. He sent his kid to make a statement, with him being a marine, he is well aware of what is happening and he cannot make a political statement, but his kid can and he can make it through his child.
Everything has to be so PC nowadays..............
I think I agree with the teacher on this one. A gun on a t-shirt is a gun on a t-shirt. I am NOT against guns, I support being able to arm yourself (I AM from Arizona after all) However, the rules on school dress code have always been the same. It shouldn't matter if the guns are on a military shirt or a guy hunting holding one. Its great to show pride for your dad being a Marine but pick a t-shirt that just has the logo next time.
Crossed rifles on a T-shirt? Cower. Run. Hide!
It depends on the shirt. If the rifles are an incidental mark to a larger message, then it's an overreaction. Like so many other arguments, it's not what's said but who said it.
The issue here is that the teacher thinks guns by themselves are bad and IMO that disqualifies them as a teacher. Granted bad guys sometimes use guns to do bad things. But that's the minority of gun use and when that happens the solution is usually a gun in the hands of a good guy; rarely, if ever, is the solution no guns in anyone's hands except the bad guy's.
Therefore, and I can't believe I have to 'splain this, the good/bad issue relates to the person with the gun, not the gun itself.
That said, we generally consider the Marines as part of the good guys so the T-shirt represents, IMO, the idea of good guys w/guns taking care of bad guys w/guns. Anyone who finds this concept offensive can go live in Somalia and let us know how it goes.
Hee Haw
Intelligent Donkey, you should remove the first part of your name if you feel that way. Someone's opinion on guns and their affects on the society in which they live no more disqualifies them from being a teacher than your apparently radical view that anyone who thinks guns are a part of violence should move to a 3rd world country.
basedumb,, he hit the nail right onthe head,,,,Semper Fi
basedrum, the point is when a teacher starts to inforce THEIR own personnal views onto students in a classroom that makes them NOT qualified to teach. The school policies on clothing DO NOT include pictures of guns and to tell a student that a military unit t-shirt is inappropriate is NOT that teachers decision to make. The school even indicated that the teacher was out of line and over stepped the authority that was given to her. Also anyone who reads the news knows that its the "GOOD GUYS" with the guns who are keeping the "BAD GUYS" with the guns from taking over. Try reading history.
Interesting. This will likely open the school up to a lawsuit, not necessarily by the boy wearing the t-shirt (since the school seems to be backing off the earlier decision by the teacher) but rather by the next child who is sent home for wearing a t-shirt with a gun on it.
If the school permits one gun t-shirt and not another, the school is making a substantive value judgment about the content of the specific gun speech on the shirts (i.e., the school is expressing a preference for gun depictions associated with groups the school likes while prohibiting gun depictions associated with groups the school doesn't like).
The school can generally ban types of speech it finds offensive (i.e., generally ban gun depictions on student t-shirts), but it can't selectively ban the specific content of the speech based on its preferences for one group over another (e.g., marine gun depictions vs. white supremacist gun depictions).
Waiting for an enterprising lawyer to find a plaintiff...
There counts up there with one of the most asinine statements ever made on the Vine.
The T-shirt was clearly one depicting the US Marines, and part of the equipment needed by the Marines is a damn freaking gun.
I believe a rapper's equipment often includes a gun as well. Would a t-shirt depicting gangster rappers with various automatic weapons have been acceptable?
Anticipating answer: "No. Gangster rappers aren't marines. I like marines; so it's okay to have a t-shirt depicting marines with guns. I don't like rappers; so it's not okay to have a t-shirt depicting rappers with guns."
Therein lies the lawsuit.
One-eye,
The issue is really about what the symbol on the T-shirt represents ideologically. You may not agree but most intelligent folks consider the Marines the good guys and the thug rappers who shoot civilians as the bad guys. Do you really consider these armed thug rappers as being one of the good guys or in any way being similar to a Marine?
W/o the Marines the chances are the school where this teacher worked would not exist. W/o thug rappers chances are the school would be better able to teach. Cops and criminals have guns too but to say they are similar is a real stretch at best. If you still think they're the same then try living somewhere where they are, like Somalia.
Again with the Somalia references...
Undertakers' point, which is very valid, is that the school should not be in the business of deciding who is or is not a "good guy" as you put it. In some ethnic neighborhoods they would characterize the police and ICE as the "bad guys". Does that mean based upon your logic you'd be ok with them banning symbols on their shirt that show the police shield? Even without any reference to guns or violence? Yeah didn't think so. So how about you stop trying to pick and choose winners and losers and just follow the policy that indicates that whatever the school thinks is final...
basedrum
I couldn't disagree w/you more. The schools my kids go to do teach the difference between right and wrong which includes teaching the difference between good/evil, and good guys/bad guys. They even go a step further to show the perspective factor for things like how both sides in the civil war thought they were the good guys but that it's important for the individual student to consider the fundamental issue of slavery AND to recognize that not everyone will agree w/them. This is basis for discussion of ethical constructs and w/o a concept of right/wrong the are no ethical constructs.
Do you send your kids to a school that does not distinguish between right and wrong, good and bad, good guys and bad guys? Do you even have kids? If so, how do you teach them about ethics w/o concepts of right/wrong, good/bad?
Perhaps one of the problems with America is that folks don't understand that there is a difference between right and wrong, good and bad. So riddle me this: what is the one thing that distinguishes good from evil?
Hee Haw
Does the gun ban in Chicago even apply to imiges on T-Shirts? Now that would be some crazy over reaching gun-control! LOL.
Well....
The Supreme Court banned the wearing of patriotic symbols such as the American flag on T-shirts because it might upset the Hispanic population in the schools.
Nothing would surprise me any more, but I did vote for your comment.
There is a lawsuit in Texas brought by a 15 year old school girl who was being forced to pledge allegiance to the MEXICAN FLAG in her spanish class.......she refused and said she would only pledge her allegiance to the American flag. She was punished for refusing. Pathetic and shocking.....but a patriotic young girl.
@ eg.ltnm:
"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
--Samuel Johnson, April 1775
Schools need to start requiring students to wear uniforms.This kid is sent home due to a marines T-shirt and in Connecticut a kid is applaud for wearing an anti gay T-shirt.American taxpayers want our kids to be educated and all of this silliness over T-shirts is wasting the time that could be spent teaching.Kids are sent to school to learn and not toe there for a fashion or politcal statements.I see nothing wrong with the Marines T-shirt.
There is nothing wrong with a Marines T-shirt. Sometimes Marines are forced to go on stupid, unnecessary and wasteful excursions (did somebody say "Iraq War"?) but their mission is to defend this country and they do that job quite nicely. Like John Kerry recently said - the Armed Forces (he's a Navy vet) protect our freedoms, including the right to do something stupid.
Forcing schoolkids to wear uniforms is destructive to child developement. Individual identity and character developement would be stifled, kids would be looking all generic, getting indoctrinated into an evil system that really doesn't give a **** about them anyway. They'd be droids, not people - being told to goosestep at the snap of the fingers. That is unhuman and dehumanizing. LET KIDS BE KIDS, FOR GOD'S SAKE! They need to know and discover who and what they are. They need to blossum as they grow up. As for limiting what students can wear, that's basically a matter of common-f'n-sence, something very few people seem to have anymore in a society of sheep. We should all be FREE TO BE YOU AND ME : )
I agree. Schools should start requiring students to wear uniforms.
Would have been welcomed if the boy were wearing high heels and lipstick.
These America-hating DemonKKKrat NEA union thugs think they can get away with anything.
And generally do.
We must ban t-shirts!
How about the 5 year old boy.....who dressed in girls clothes because he identified more with being a girl. His parents wanted his school in Texas to allow him to use the girls bathroom! They said no....the parents are suing. A TRANSGENDERED 5 year old! A five year old can't even pronounce transgendered.....this is how crazy our country has become.
Sounds like some school teachers managed to get their teaching certificates without having ANY common sense at all! This teacher should be coached on what is 'offensive' and what is patriotic. Is she in the country legally?
Now that the election is over - the Oboma Administration is now failing to fund Veterans Benefit Programs! Told you so! He will blame the Republican's for this, and deny it was his plan all along - And, his wife will claim any wrong doing by her husband!
Vern now that brings a tear to these old eyes,,someone remembers my beloved Corp!
Semper Fi
My father is a Marine...from Texas.
If someone had told me to take off my Marine T-shirt when I was 14, I would have borrowed a phrase from October 2, 1835 and told them to "Come and take it". A little more polite than calling their attention to my mistletoe belt buckle, I think.
Nicely said.
I wish that teachers and school districts would pay more attention to the three R's then whether a t shirt that represent one of our Armed services is appropriate or if a young girl should be suspended for a treat to shoot a bubble gun at another little girl....get real educators.
Zero tolerance = Zero intelligence.
When the goodie two shoes teacher needs protection I hope all military personnel avoid her like the plague she is. There are way too many rules in schools anyway, way too much administration and way too little actual educating. Old toots like me find a lot of things a hell of a lot more offensive like the manner of undress by most of the thugs or the lack of common courtesy but I do realize cultures change. I surmise this culture change will be replaced by something equally offensive.
Here's what's happening in our school system. Students are being bombarded with this "zero tolerance" policy. It's longevity warfare. The Obama administration knows they may not be able to molest the 2nd amendment in the immediate future so they are now teaching gun hatred to our youth. These stories are going to become more and more commonplace as the weeks go by.
It's media manipulation. The anti-gunners are pulling out all the stops this time. You still can't read an article referencing the Sandy Hook shooting without being definitively reminded that 26 people including 20 children were killed. This was a tragic day in American history but it's simply being exploited for a cause.
More people are killed with hammers each year than there are with assualt rifles and yet there is no legislation requiring background checks for their purchase. They're hangin all over the Home Depot for God and anybody to just wig out and go on a tacking spree.
Ban the BULLS basketball T-shirts because that is offensive.....having all those millionaires running around shoving people, getting up in their faces, throwing balls at each other and also ban any TEACHER referenced T-shirts, they seem to be teaching idiocy.
OMG, run! It's the Political Correctness Police. Sick of the stupidity.
LOL Is there anything more offensive than a Marine? If so, let's have it killed.
“The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps!”
--Eleanor Roosevelt
Are you even allowed to fly the U.S. Flag in Chicago?
Perhaps this teacher needs to vacation in one of those lovely spots where Marines hang out like Iraq or Afghanistan. I hear that other than folks getting killed heinously that the desert combat zones are quite lovely this time of year.
Hee Haw
fox news. Need I say more?
and it was against school policy.
non-trovery to keep the right wing mouth breathers frothing.
My only question is..Was the T-shirt locked and loaded? This could change things...Ohhh Boy ..where are we headed?
It's getting stranger and stranger,,,, Semper Fi
Chicago area middle schooler told to remove Marines t-shirt...teacher told to go F*ck themself. End of story. Semper Fi