Actually Bob is right. All of the sicking scandals which have rocked the Boy Scouts under the heterosexuals-only policies, and the filthy coverups which have followed, must be ended. The BSA screams out for an injection of moral fiber, and perhaps some upstanding homosexuals keeping an eye out the perverts currently in bed with the Boy Scouts, and blowing the whistle when red flags are seen is just what the Boy Scouts need. This pretense of "we alone so holy that only we can be trusted with your boys" continues to give cover and license to the pedos who have infested the BOA.

I join your call, Bob, to end the ignorant and bigoted discrimination based on sexual orientation. Perhaps the decent hetros, working arm in arm with the decent homos can succeed where the current governance has failed; shutting out the petos who threaten our boys under a pretense of morality beyond blemish and beyond question. Certainly what the Boy Scouts are doing now isn't working. The pervs keep getting through.

-Science_1

Google "Secret 14,000-page Boy Scout 'perversion list' " if you think the hetro-only policy has been a safe-guard for our kids. Some folks think that only men molest boys, or that hetros are trust-worthy. Stupid, stupid, willful ignorance. Child predators exploit trust and count on the cover it gives them. Our kids suffer as a direct result of bigoted views which focus on sexual orientation without rather than being vigilant for pedifile perverts within. It is tragic, it destroys lives, and it has to end.

-Science_1

Were these two guys back props for a campaign speech ?

I don't know, ldo. We'd have to check the Romney footage to see. But I wouldn't hold it against the man if they were. How about you?

-Science_1

Castrate them-sick fuggers

Wonderful. Now the lunatics will use these 'poster-boys' as a reason for shooting at firefighters that respond to fire-engulfed homes. "Nothing but the sick following the 'sicker' " as my NRA-loving neighbour says about politics: but in this case.....I have to agree. Heroes to zeros.

Well put Tag, and deliciously rude...

Oh Bob, you're so misguided. And so poorly informed. And so wrong.

Healthy gay men don't have sex with children any more than healthy straight men do. Pedophiles are no more common in the gay community than they are in heterosexual communities -- do some research into the statistics.

The point, Bob, is that there are messed-up people in every walk of life. Black, white, gay, straight, men, women, Christian, atheist -- no group is immune.

Guess I have to spell it out for you, Bob. These men are not gay. They are pedophiles. Gay men are attracted to other men. Pedophiles are attracted to children. Do you see the difference? If not, then that speaks for itself.

I guess the Fire Chief should be fired and all his awards vacated. And the Administrators of the Fire Department should be fired. And they should all be brought before a Grand Jury to investigate their role in this. And Freeh could make another report. They all must have known, since it went on for so many years. They just wanted to protect the Fire Department so they must have covered it all up.

Wow. Gay dudes are running amuck in Connecticut .

As a matter of fact it seems like that whole state is in the news about every other day.

Hmmm.

I'm a little fuzzy on the whole forced part. he kept coming back until he was 25.

Seems more like prostitution and sex with a minor than forced slavery.

And yes , a 35 year old man having sex with a 25 year old man is gay.

The victim is gay. the 2 old pervs are gay.

He was a 911 operator. Isn't that a policeman and not a fireman?

GM Bluto

911 operator. Isn't that a policeman and not a fireman?

actually, it is neither. Usually a hire by the city/town and is basically a telephone dispatcher for all 911 emergencies. They are only "trained" to record the emergency phone call and dispatch the closest unit (police, fire or ambulance).

HAGD

This is why the Boy Scouts

WOW! 6 words, it took 6 words to go from firefighters, to boy scouts... Holy crap.... Little bitter are we?

Let me rephrase LOL

WOW! 6 words, it took 6 words to go from firefighters, to boy scouts... Holy crap.... Little bitter are we?

OK at 12 he was being molested,at 18 he had a boyfriend. Not condoning what these guys did and I think they should go to jail but they didn't molest him at 25. He either liked it or was willing to do it for the money.

Rick, the men groomed the kid and damaged him psychologically by molesting him at the age of 12. Who knows how they manipulated him to keep coming back...probably told him he had to pay off his debt to be honorable. Messing with a kid at that age damages them unspeakably and your attempts at blaming the victim are disgusting. I'm glad the kid worked up the nerve to go to police and finally end it. By doing that , he became his own hero.

these two need to go on a little hunting trip! accidents happen all the time. id sleep at nite!

For what they did to a child they should both be put in prison in general population.

homosexuality & pedophilia are two completely different things. enjoy your life as a close-minded simpleton.

Yep....& both a perverted deviation.

And yet those pushing the "Rainbow agenda"will "nay say" the implications coming from this .

Wow, the ignorance that is showing is ridiculous. For those who believe that only gay people can molest boys, get out from under your rock.

In scientific terms it is a continuance of the homosexual continuum. Now this two would be considered not exclusively homosexual, so depravity plays a large part in the equation. Child molesters deserve frontal lobotomies.

Bob IS NOT RIGHT. If any parent would have a decent relationship with their child NONE OF THIS WOULD HAPPEN. It is because of FEAR that children do not report this to parents and to authorities, because SOME ONE TOLD THEM NOT TO. Gay people usually are not predatory, they are "different" but are not usually predatory, it is a person with ulterior motives that commit crimes that are to blame. They will lie and cheat and deceive in any way possible to achieve their goal, self satisfaction, damn the cost to everyone else. THESE PEOPLE SHOULD BE PUNISHED WHETHER THEY ARE SCOUT MASTERS, FIREMEN, OR POLITICIANS. There is reasons a woman can friend a gay man, it is because the woman understands she has nothing to fear from that man and if need be that man would defend and protect the woman WITH NO REWARD EXPECTED. You will not get that same treatment form a criminal, especially a CLOSET GAY MAN.

50 k bail?? thats absolute horsesh.t! people have gotten more for doing less.prob because hes a firepig,give him a fighting chance.typical.if this was you or me it would be 500 k or more.fn horsesh.t!

Off with their weiners! Chemical castration is needed for these sick f*cks. That way when they go to prison they will be Bubba's catcher and never again have a chance to be the pitcher.

To the heterophobes that say that they are not in charge of pedophilia, they are lying to you and they are also the ones that are responsible for messes like the Boy Scouts and the Catholic Church scenarios. You see, when things like this happen, the people who are NOT pedophiles are forced into doing these several options. The first option is to violate Judeo-Christian principles and label (that is put a generational curse and speak negatively) on someone who is a pedophile and label them as a pervert. The second thing that happens is that they end up being the very police state that they do not want to become because they are afraid of their own safety and due to demonically based attacks instead of going after the individual in the right way and learning to be better instructed in the arts of demonic warfare. The third thing is that they are ridiculed simply because someone went through the cracks and because they refuse to give up their moral structure, they are then accused of covering up for pedophiles and then, guess what, they are also accused of being hypocrites that are a. secretly engaging in homosexuality and pedophilia, b. that they are being homophobic, c. that they are lying about being heterosexual, and/or d. that they are trying to hide the "fact" that they are actually homosexuals. Add to that the REAL fact that people HAVE changed from a way of thought and that the heterophobia (homosexual) community acts like a gang and will still try to have a grip over people that have become disillusioned with their agendas and that they will try to kill anyone, whether it is with their reputation in their community and the community at large, or to kill them literally, or any other crime that they can pin or commit to these people who truly want to change, and you have the perfect storm against Christians. Yes, libel, slander, defamation of character, racqueteering, extortion, payola, bribery, graft, intimidation, and conspiracy are all nice little things that you just LOVE to do against the Christians, let alone accuse the lot of them on doing instead of the people who have actually infiltrated their ranks and who really DID do the deeds now, am I right...oh, but wait, the infiltrators are actually sleeper agents that were within your employment the whole time, so you could never punish someone who did a good job in your sight and that had done what you wanted them to do in the first place (unless you could actually get away with using them as a scapegoat for a much larger and more brilliantly evil scheme) now, could you? I believe that it will always begin and end with you stereotype producing, immature, judgmental, hypocritical, arrogant, elitist, bigoted, deviant (ooh, you really hate THAT word now, do you not), heterophobic, pedophilia promoting con artists now, do you? Also, when the Christians uncover your plans, you do your level headed best to make them look all so evil, never mind that they are simply not that smart to use your own tactics against you well enough to play your game well enough (I am sorry, Christians, but you DO have to play a FAR better game than what you are playing against them right now in order to diffuse the movement) and thus you get your billions of dollars and your "experts" to demonize them, am I right? I believe that the words "Woe be to those who call evil as good and good as evil, who put forward darkness for light and light for darkness, and who put things that are bitter for things that are sweet and things that are sweet for things that are bitter. Woe to those people who are wise in their own eyes and who are clever in their own sight. Woe to those people who boast about how much wine that they can drink as if they were heroes, who boast about how much of a champion that they are about mixing drinks, and who also boast about how much alcohol that they can hold. Woe to those people who acquit the guilty person for a bribe but who also deny justice and wrongfully convict the innocent person. However, it is to this end therefore that, as tongues of fire lick up the straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers will blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of Yahweh, the LORD Almighty and they have also spurned the Holy One of the nation of Israel," would more than apply to you in this case now, would they not, folks? This is your lot...this and many other words upon many other places in that Book. You will also pay dearly for twisting the words of one Margaret Mead to your own sick advantage, you know the quote already. "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." The problem is that we see you changing the world for worse and accusing the Christians (some rightfully, others, not so much) of making a Fascist police state but the truth is that you have plenty of experience in making dictatorships and hate groups far more than the lay Christians who want absolutely NOTHING to do with intolerant, insensitive, and immature bigots of ANY kind or for people who claim to not be bigoted yet are twice the intolerant, insensitive, and immature bigots of everyone else. People like me will rise up, people like me will put that quote to good use, and people like you, if they are fortunate, will be only a footnote in human history, as you should be already. Those people who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it and you WILL learn from your mistakes or you will learn to fall in the same way...it is your choice. Thank you and I am done with my words.

pedophiles are just pedophiles...Most child molesters are not heterosexual, bisexual or homosexual however, many marry to cover their lifestyle. According to University of California Davis, their attraction is to children, not same or opposite sex. According to Mahrin Raman, Case Western Reserve University, over 90% of molesters in the United States in 2000 were male offenders abusing females, and over 90% were acquaintances or family members. In reality sexual orientation has nothing to do with pedophilia, It is a act of power and control by an individual who perceives himself and/or herself as inadequate. Children are targeted because they are not sexually judgmental and do not threaten the person as would be the case in normal adult sexual activities.

the sexual encounters happened when his wife was at work and out of the house so they would not be discovered

I'm going out on a limb here and guessing that the wives probably know now.

Well said, Carol. And thank you for the clarity.

Bob, your desire to equate pedophilia with homosexuality reflects on your own perversion for it flies in the face of the facts of this case. These men were NOT homosexuals. A careful reading shows that the men who preyed on this boy and lead him into the sexual bondage were forcing him to engage in sex acts with WOMEN. They did not try to have sex with the boy themselves. They were in it for money or their own heterosexual perversions or both. In fact, they only once asked the boy to have sex with another guy, and the boy refused. So the entire travesty exploiting this boy over all of those years involved sex toys and women.

Dude, I strongly URGE you to examine the twisted darkness of your own soul which drives you to equate pedophiles with homosexuals. They are NOT the same thing, and you slander an entire class of good and decent people with your bigoted suspicions. But worse than that, it is folks like yourself who enable pedophilia by failing to recognize the true nature of the thing. Your willfully ignorant notion that heterosexuals by virtue of their nature can be trusted with kids provides the cover pedophiles need to victimize kids.

If this tragedy with the Connecticut firefighters shows us anything, it shows us the folly, the corruption and the danger of that bigoted view.

-Science_1

These guys certainly deserve whats coming, but how exactly is this slavery?

I agree, I'm not exactly sure where the slavery and force come into play here. This guy wasn't forced to do anything it sounds like. He was paid for "services" which he rendered freely. I understand my comments may not be in tune with society considers correct, but it is a valid question nonetheless. Why did this young man agree to do these things if he did not want to? He could have refused the offers of money and dirt bikes and/or he could have gone to the police at any time. And he engaged in this activity freely for years when he could have gone to the police at any time. I'm glad he wised up and put a stop to this behavior so that these men won't be approaching anyone else, but he wasn't forced IMO.

I understand that the law was broken, and that sex with a minor is morally and legally wrong for obvious reasons, but IMO the young man who reported this isn't entirely and innocent victim in the same way a person who is forcibly raped is.

BOB, your ignorance probably isn't worth a response. I'm certain facts won't change your bigoted ways, but here goes. The majority of pefofiles (adults who molest children) are described as hetro sexual married men. Thats right, this category of pedofiles molests more children more often.

I'm certain you think youre smug, fitting every situation into your hatred of homosexuals, but in this case you failed.

to the delusionteller (calls himself a "truthteller")

"demonic warfare"?

what delusional fantasy do you live in?

your entire rant is nothing but delusion and fantasies of persecution

with idiots screaming about "demons" and the like, its no wonder the country is going down the tubes, the more the religious, so-called "christian" right inserts their delusional fantasies into our society, the further the country falls behind the rest of the world.

so easy to blame "demons" when facts don't fit your little world

These guys should be locked up so they can not hurt other children.

However, the title is misleading: a "sex slave" is someone who was kidnapped and forced to have sex just to stay alive under their captors (with no pay or "gifts" in exchange).

The guys experimented with a little BDSM with a teenager; that's pedophilia, which is also illegal, but It's not real sex slavery.

These guys decided to become "sexual mentors" which no boy needs of course, but the fact that they bribed him with gifts makes them your run of the mill pervert. Especially by the time the boy reached 16, he could have done what his smart friend did: say "no" and then walk away.

the simple fact is that these firefighters were sick SOBs that wanted to have sex with boys, did anyone miss the part where the jerk asked the victim to make himself look younger?

not much different from the porns that take girls over 18, dress them with pigtails to encourage fantasies of having sex with underage "schoolgirls". while nothing illegal is actually happening, it is encouraging the fantasies of pedophiles

@blutowski & his ilk: Guess you missed this part of the article:

Police said Meyer also asked the teen to alter his appearance to look young and boyish

Sounds like a pedophile to me.

The more stories I read such as this one, the more I am inclined to trust the openly gay community over the hetero community. Instead of making a post warning people to not trust the gay community, maybe Bob should have made the post warning about not trusting the perceived hetero community.

You can't fix stupid.

Heterosexual men are attracted to ADULT women.

Homosexual men are attracted to ADULT men.

Pedophiles are attracted to CHILDREN.

Pedophiles can be heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual or fixated....based on their ADULT orientation (or lack of it). The gender of the child victim is not indicative or determinative of the orientation of the pedophile. To a pedophile, all that matters is the sense of control and power over a helpless, vulnerable victim, not the gender, which is more often a matter of opportunity than desire.

These HETEROSEXUAL men (attracted to adult women...NOT men) asked this boy to try and look younger...more like a CHILD, because they are heterosexual pedophiles.

Until you can tell the difference between a consenting relationship between two mutually attracted adults and the vile molestation, rape and exploitation of a CHILD then you will never understand how incredibly ignorant you look by assuming they are the same thing.

Truthteller you refer to christian values and rant about people who violate those(actually your values) are bad people.. please put you name on that list since I bet you violate every rule in Leviticus that controls YOUR sex life...

statistics show that more than a major portion of pedophiles are STRAIGHT married.. some one said in 2000 that it was mostly underage girls being molested.. but the counts were skewed since we never had the real number of pedophiles molesting boys.. easy answer!!!! all those reports got swept under the carpet, for instance SANDUSKY, catholic priests, the BSA, and the entire heirarchy of the church,, thousands of priests still able to walk the streets.. and boys was the only choice they had since very few young girls were involved in the church.. so the boys lived in shame and the priests threatened them frquently so they would not squeal.. 98% of molested children never say anything to anyone for fear of being punished, and their friends finding out.. .. I hope you realize that most of the kids are molested by an immediate family member..

maxgiver, you can't convince anyone that is so delusional that they believe in "demonic warfare" of reality.

it is just like trying to convince any other paranoid delusional person, you become "one of them"

Hetro's demand that their young boy victims dress as a FEMME only because it makes them feel superior.. it is a method of humiliation, and degredation. so they stay in control and the victim understands this.. usually there is punishment for disobeying the CONTROLLER

Markwills, you have no clue as to what is really going on. You just don't have the ability to perceive it. Not being able to verify it for yourself does not negate its reality.

LOL, I "have no clue"?

with the "demonic warfare" crowd, the next thing we will be seeing is prosecution for "wicthcraft", just like in Iran...

religious fundeMENTALism, evidence of the decline of a nation

when all you have to do is blame "invisible demons" for all the ills, instead of trying to find the real reasons for said problem and fix them

but do you know what I see, allen?

I see people giving in to the evolutionary leftover instincts that still reside within us that are evolutionary leftovers from our ancestors days as plains-dwelling apes. I see religion as an attempt to control those evolutionary leftovers. but just as with any tool, there are those that turn around and use a tool for wrongful purposes. I see "preachers and pastors" in their lust and desire for power, in their greed for wealth and prestige, manipulating people and using fear to twist the good into bad.

this has been going on, off and on through history, little has changed, it just moves faster now.

Not very hard for an adult to manipulate a kid. That's why they can't give consent until they are older and more mature.

So what is the excuse when he is 22 and still trading sex for gifts?

What part of this is forced. They asked him to have sex with another young man , he said no, and they didn't force him.

These to old gay pervs are gross but I don't see any slavery happening.

Maybe he was confused about how many to give for that particular bike.

You guys are stupid.

he was molested since 12. Who knows what psychological traumas he has. That stuff just doesn't go away. In a sick way, he was taught to believe from an early age that it's "ok" to exchange sex for gifts. It's like you were brought up a certain way- but that doesn't mean you're just going to change from one day to another.