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Subscribe to RSSA Pennsylvania man accused of pouring perfume on his girlfriend and setting her on fire in an apparent domestic dispute was arrested Saturday, Pittsburgh's WTAE reported.
Springdale police said 22-year-old Maria Redman was burned on more than 30 percent of her body early Thursday morning when 27-year-old Clinton Cohen threw perfume on her and then lit her on fire with a cigarette lighter, according to WPXI. Cohen then threw a blanket at Redman and walked out of the apartment.
According to police, the couple's infant daughter was at home in a crib when the incident occurred.
“It was a verbal domestic dispute and he began choking her, then punched her,” Lt. Jeff Korczyk told WPXI. “Cohen then opened a bottle of perfume, poured it over the victim and lit it with a cigarette lighter.”
Korczyk said the daughter had some blood spatter on her from her mother.
Officials said Redman remains in the hospital in critical, but stable condition.
Cohen has been charged with attempted homicide, aggravated assault and endangering the welfare of children.
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.... perfume .. set on fire?
it's not romantic
it's deadly
it's violence
it stinks.
I suppose that the perfume IS cheaper than the price of GASOLINE.
A bit off topic I know, but since I had to fill up all three vehicles today (and I'm stilled a bit brassed off at the cost) I just decided to let it fly.
What this clown needs is a good shot of DepoProvera; now Starbuck will come along and explain how that is an unlawful search and seizure if not constituting 'unusual' punishment and we can all laugh and have a pint...
How much you want to bet he won't spend the rest of his life in jail or even come close to it? Causing this much pain and suffering to someone should get you the death penalty!
And to think that the Republican Party wants to cut funding for domestic violence shelters and other services designed to protect women from abusive men... because it's always the woman's fault, ya know!
JP couldn't wait to go political on the first chance he got.
Pathetic.
That type of hate is tearing the country apart.
What? Are you kidding me? It's not Florida or Texas? Someone needs to proofread this news article! :)
this guy should go away for a very long time.
He probably won't get all the time he deserves. But if he does less than 20 years, I'll be surrprised and outraged.
My emotional response is to quietly garrote him behind the court house, and bury him a land fill site. But society is not politically willing to do so, and that, believe it or not, is probably a good thing.
According to Republicans laws like for gun control do no good, bad guys still get the guns, so why pass laws for protection of women when the Bad guys will still commit the crimes against women anyways. Hell, why even have any laws according to Republicans, they won't do any good anyways.
Standard mentality of a Republican.
Can we get the stupid politicizing out of the way? Here you go.
1. Democrats will now ban all perfume. Because one person was sick, everyone must lose their freedom.
2. Republicans will demand we arm EVERYONE with perfume and lighters. Escalating arms races always solve the problem... or make it worse. I forget. Whatever.
Can we move on now?
BAN PERFUME!
If it saves even one life....
We need to make prisons cheaper so we can house more, this problem is not getting better, Tents, outhouses, and a colmen lantern for Clinton
Trynka-1213219
Too funny man. Even though you were not "trying" to be funny, it was. I know exactly what you mean...
Later...
This coward willingly violated all three of this woman's God/Nature given Rights of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
When this level of atrocity occurs, regardless of causation, the violator should have his Rights removed immediately and be sentenced to death. When someone has such callous disregard for another human being as to let her burn to death, or near death, there is no amount of therapy that will help him.
We have more laws than most judges can even remember, yet we have very little enforcement of these laws. When the punishment doesn't exceed the crime the deterrent effect is lost. Most repeat offenders know they will avoid lengthy prosecution and continue their destructive lifestyle.
Of course the bleeding-heart enablers in our society will demand that the criminals have more Rights than the victim.
We have 5 different "levels" of killing another person.
First degree murder
Second degree murder
Felony murder
Voluntary manslaughter
Involuntary manslaughter
Murder entails deliberately ending another persons life, while manslaughter is generally considered an accidental death.
Regardless of the nature of the sentence, the victim is no more or less dead. From First degree murder to involuntary manslaughter the victims Rights to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness have been eliminated.
We are a nation of Laws that are created to protect our Rights. Whether you accept them from God or Nature, they are unalienable. They are unquestionable.
It's time we enforce our Laws to the maximum extent without emotional involvement.
gm CD
I hope the young woman recovers both physically and emotionally.
Unfortunately, if the psycho hasn't any prior record he will get off with a suspended sentence and be granted visitation with the child.
When violence like this is demonstrated it should be automatic that prison time is mandatory and that contact with children is prohibited.
Ahhh, actually Jim Spence, the woman is still alive. He only attempted to kill her, and then left the apartment. So while one argue that he lessened her ability to pursue happiness, to deprived her life and liberty is inaccurate. He only attempted to do so.
In our society we differentiate between attempted murder and murder.
Also, Felony Murder is not a level of killing. It defines the ability of the law to charge a person not directly involved in a person's unlawful slaying, if either in the commission of another felony, an unintentional death was caused, or if a person participates in a crime in which one the other participants commits a murder. The degree or level of murder to which such a person might be charged is a whole different matter.
For the rest, since the woman was not slain in this vicious attack, and since nobody, as yet, has advocated letting this man go free and unpunished, I have to wonder on just what your diatribe about "bleeding-heart enablers in our society" is based, and why you are admonishing that "we enforce our Laws to the maximum...".
What laws are we failing to enforce in this case?
Actually Jim, if you get really technical, .. Rights of life (she is still alive), Liberty (she is free to go anywhere she wants), and the pursuit of Happiness (she can still pursue happiness) So he has not taken anything by god or nature as you put it away from her.
That being said, what he did was just f-ed up.
Brenda--please grow a brain before you comment further. Your ridiculous political rants have nothing to do with this case or the indefensible abuse this woman suffered. If you really want to be a card-carrying member of the loony left, that's your choice, but kindly leave the inane anti-GOP comments for articles on politics. Reading comments like your's make me despair for us as a species.
brenda1964
dman-353357
The Right to Life is NOT a simple differentiation of life or death.
A “Right” is a moral principle defining and sanctioning a man’s (or woman’s) freedom of action in a social context. There is only one fundamental right (all the others are its consequences or corollaries), a man’s right to his own life. Life is a process of self-sustaining and self-generated action; the right to life means the right to engage in self-sustaining and self-generated action.
This allows the freedom to take all the actions required by the nature of a rational being for the support, the furtherance, the fulfillment and the enjoyment of his own life.
There is only one fundamental right, all the others are its consequences or corollaries, a man’s right to his own life.
This means that a primary aim of our society is to sustain the individual life of each and every citizen of this country. That has come to mean that we wish to enable people to live healthily, to live successfully, and to live comfortably, and by comfortably we mean not to suffer and not to die at an early age and not to sacrifice our lives for some abstract goal that has nothing to do with our personal dreams.
The Right to life is not negated with its destruction. This Right allows the freedom to attain whatever is desired by the individual, especially in life. The ultimate violation, of course, is when the person’s life is ended, but any violation of that person’s ability to live his life to his desired course is denying the very Right.
The Right of Liberty/Freedom, as explained above is a corollary of the Right to Life. It specifically refers to your freedom of action. This is a necessity for man’s life because man’s means of survival is reason. You can only act on your reason if you are free of coercion. In this case, the womans survival has been affected by the coercive action of this man. Her physical and emotional scars will be with her forever. Yes, she is still free to do what she wants, when she wants, but she has been violated to fully express her freedom because of his crime. The physical and emotional effects will affect how society accepts her and how she accepts herself. This can never be restored to normalcy. Thus, her Right of Liberty/Freedom has been violated.
The Right to the pursuit of Happiness means a man is free to do anything he pleases, as long as it doesn’t conflict with the rights of others. The ability of man to pursue happiness is based on the premise that he has an equal opportunity to attain that happiness. When someone interrupts that ability with forced coercion, physical or emotional, then the persons achievement of that happiness is reduced.
These Rights are not simply cut and dry, they are multifactorial. When someone abrogates these rights, intentionally or unintentionally, they are considered violations.
Rights are not laws that can be manipulated according to society’s whims. They are unalienable because they cannot be taken away in part.
Explain that to the decedent. In either case the victim is just as dead.
Love is a many splendored thing...for the first few years...lol.
How can anyone pledge allegiance to a political party and still think they are a whole human being?
Approaching partnerships using romance and ideology - isn't working out so great - but then, all of society is really just made up stuff that over the years becomes the accepted paradigm. [paradigm in the WRT sense - not as defined by Webster...I've wadded many a panty using that word in the past :)]
Politics, religion, and love - are all very much alike - they all require faith, and its participants tend to make even the smallest things, far bigger than they are.
Notice: another UN-MARRIED couple having a domestic dispute.
OH Gosh.... No gun this time for the ANTI-GUN Freaks and Anti- Gun Media Whores to jump on?
Dang.... chalk another violent (near death) act in one of those columns they don't like to bring up such as swimming pool, fire and electrocution deaths. It's actually amazing they DID bring this one up.
The man in this attack................ immediately after his conviction............ douse him with gasoline......... and then torch the scum sucker.
Say what? If you attempt to murder someone and succeed, the victim is dead, and we call it murder.
If you attempt to kill someone and fail, the victim is still alive, and we call it attempted murder.
So if in either case the victim is just as dead someone is taking the definition of attempt to epic levels never seen before.
Texas just got done executing an inmate for throwing gas on an old GF and she died.
The same should be given to this thug.
I am sure the young woman was terrorized. Why is this man not being held on charges of terrorism???
Hope they don't give him bail since she's going to be ok (eventually), he might consider since he's being charged & looking at possibly 20+ yrs, he might as well finish her off. Life isn't much more than that unless you get no chance for parole. Maybe once he gets to prison, someone will throw him in the soup...he deserves no less...
Not only does the level of brutality directed at this woman and the fact that a helpless infant (the slimeball's unfortunate child) was present offend me, but far too often women like her will ultimately go back to the jerk because she loooooves him, he didn't mean it, he's sorry, and he is the father of her child. If not him, she will hook up with another creep just like this one. Unfortunately, though not always, these types of scenarios are endless, self-perpetuating loops.
Punishment should fit the crime old spice and a lighter.
Don't worry, Jim, I fully understood what you were saying, the first time. Just because he didn't succeed in his attempts to kill her doesn't mean he didn't violate her right to life. The term "violate" was referring to his actions, not her result. When you try to remove something that somebody has a right to, you are violating that right, even if you don't succeed. For instance, if a cop arrests you for no reason and puts you in prison, he has violated your right to due process even if another cop lets you go. I think Brenda was just being sarcastic, but this guy tried to take her life and, in so doing, successfully took much of what makes life valuable and enjoyable. I hope it's obvious to the courts that he is too violent to ever be trusted with his daughter, but I've been surprised at how some of those rulings go. One of these days, we may wind up reading about some other unsuspecting person he victimized even worse. I certainly hope not.
Jim Spence, you are aware that there is no decedent in an attempted murder case, not unless the gun explodes and causes the death of the shooter?
I hope so.
So why are you referring to a decedent?
As to the rest of your post, regarding the right to life and by its extension, to liberty and the pursuit of happiness, I cannot argue with it as a general principal.
But general principals are not enforceable. Laws must be enacted to enforce those principals, and they dictate how and under what circumstances a person may be charged with a crime. This has been so since our nation's inception.
So your statement, "Rights are not laws that can be manipulated according to society’s whims. They are unalienable because they cannot be taken away in part." is nonsensical. Laws are the mechanism by which the basic principals you reference are enforced. Without laws setting down in actionable language how the rights and obligations of each citizen are enumerated, and how they are enforced, no enforcement is possible.
Turning back briefly to the actual story under discussion here, it was a case of attempted murder, not of murder. Nobody is dead. Also, since the alleged perpetrator is known and has been charged with multiple felonies, I see no reason for your diatribe on "bleeding hearts" being more concerned with the criminal than with the victim.
Where in this story are you getting this?
I'll bet her parents were delighted when she hooked up with that goon. They were probably mortified when she turned up pregnant. Lay down with dogs wake up with fleas.
damm , that had to STINK !for her as well as who ever set her on fire as well as the EMS crew that responded
And they're straight. This is what happens when heterosexuality is accepted as normal in society.
Exasperated737
THANK YOU!!!!!!
It's reassuring that some people are still capable of academic/knowledge based education rather than the predominant workforce education training, better known as outcome based education, that has obtunded our criminal education system for 30 years.
It's sad to see education being driven so hard on the skill-based approach rather than knowledge based. Our base curriculum has become nothing more than rote memorization of selected important dates, quotes and concepts with no expansion of what it really means.
The Founders, notably Jefferson, did not suggest that our Right to Life was a simple difference between breathing and not breathing. It's not just a function of existence, it's a function of pursuing a normal life as a normal human being throughout your life.
Obviously taking someone's life is the ultimate infringement of that Right. When someone violates that physically or emotionally the violation is no less severe.
Unfortunately the Preambles of both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution are taught as some sort of slogan often repeated to appear clever or informed. Most Americans have no idea of the genius Jefferson and Madison put into their respective documents and what was truly intended by them.
But then again no one on the planet can compete with our kids when it comes to putting a condom on a cucumber or explaining what "Joey's Two Mommy's" means.
Ido,
Not being critical, just looking for an understanding of the point you are making. ???
This guy doesn't need any counseling, which usually is the case here in the USA. What this guy deserves is to be shot on the spot.
Shot on the spot? Don't you believe in the 6th amendment, but you probably do believe in the 2nd amendment.
Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.
So..the innocent people can be tortured or even murdered by criminal(s), but these criminals can always have some constitutional protections...through due process. That seems to defy our natural instincts ... sometimes.
Fine starbuck. Give him his trial, and if found guilty, then shoot him on the spot. Constitutional requirements met, victims rights protected, punishment completed.
Like it or NOT, EVERYBODY gets a trial, even you if they arrest you.
at least she smelled good for awhile !
Damn! Perfume is lethal? Likely cheap Chinese stuff.
I guess we need to ban perfume now, or least limit the capacity of the bottles to less than 10 ml. ;-)
Your name does you credit, DumbFarmBoy. However did you come up with it?
Yes, please save the justice system time, effort, and money and shoot this idiot NOW.
Why do right wingers hate Muslims so much yet would love the US to be just like Iran or Saudi Arabia?
And if they shoot the wrong guy, then what?
Hey Starbuck49, let me fix your quote...
Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.Per the Presidentially signed law,
In any "suspected" but not proven criminal act, the accused shall enjoy an indefinite detention complimented by torture until such time as the human race is at peace (end of hostilities). Furthermore, without being confronted by the witness against him, and with no recourse of to obtain said witness, or counsel, or even tell his/her family where he is (due to the blanket term "national security") the accused may be further subject to removal of U.S. Citizenship, and summarily executed by Drone regardless of citizenship status.
There, I think that sounds more like the "living document" speaking in our "modern and updated terms". Can't really hang onto those old ideals of proof, counsel and innocence until guilt is proven can we, after all that stuff was written by a bunch of naive white guys a few hundred years ago.
Source: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012) Yes I have citing wikipedia, but its late and I am tired, look up the law itself and check out section 1021 and 1022 and ask yourself how specific it is, and what you could sneak into its "loopholes"
Here's another poster who's more concerned about the guilty persons rights than the victims. People are more concerned that the people who do bad things are treated better than the victim who is now stuck with medical expenses, recovery costs as well as years of therapy both physical and mental.
wikipedia? That's your source? hahahaha anyone can write anything into wikipedia.
Try reading the actual Bill. If you can. NDAA 2012 said nothing whatsoever about detention of US citizens. It's also no longer relevant. 2012 is over.
Sorry, got pulled off topic. The sentence for creeps who abuse women should include having the details of the assault tattooed on their faces as a warning to the next girl.
Right starbuck------too bad she didn't exercise her right to defend herself before he tried to incinerate her alive.
but the she'd be in prison ......
You can blame the bleeding heart liberals that think everyone can be rehabilitated!!........ Because of the liberal laws we are pushed to now, this punk will probably plead some type of temporary insanity or emotional "boo hoo" and get 5 year in prison, put on probation, and "counseling", when he should be shot! But hey, liberals keep pushing our country further and further into the crapper with all their bullsh*t and handouts. If the laws were tougher, this idiot would think twice before roasting another human being!!!!..............keep it up liberals, you'll reap what you sow!
@ J.P.
Then they'll have to spend $0.50 for another bullet to shoot the correct guy.
Starbuck is right. As low on the evolutionary ladder as this dirtbag is, a society that refuses him due process can do the same to any of us. He needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, lose all parental rights to his child, and spend the majority of the rest of his life locked away among much more violent people than he is--where I can guarantee you he will not be well received. Giving vent to our instinctive outrage and calling for his immediate execution is understandable, but that's why we have laws--to keep us from descending to his level. If this young woman dies, the charges will be elevated to murder, and his likelihood of rejoining society will be remote at best. As far as "rehabilitation" is concerned, if he's this violent in his twenties, I seriously doubt he'll ever be rehabilitated--if anything, his misogynism will escalate.
Limits on perfume are all ready in place - just try and get on an airplane with a pint of perfume.
Between all the hair products and after-shave/perfume, here in Tucson, it never occurred to me how much danger I was in just going to Walmart. No wonder they banned public smoking.
I used to have anger issues (growing up playing sports will do that to you) - then at 19yo I discovered pot - now I got pot issues...lol. As a wasted, no good, laid back, pot smokin hippie - my relationships just fade away...drama free. Being balanced and using logic is most critical at the time of a break-up - it separates the boys from the men...and if you can't do it by your self - smoke some pot, by the second toke you will have forgotten why you were mad in the first place :)
NO ..... DO NOT SHOOT HIM ..... SOAK HIM IN GASOLINE ..... BUCK NAKED ..... AND LIGHT HIM UP WITH HIS OWN CIGARETTE LIGHTER.
Why NOT? He seems to agree with that sort of capitol punishment for people.
Besides, the Anti-Gun whack-nuts would start talking about dismantling the Constitution.
NO mercy. Pure scum.
that had to STINK !!! for her
So give him a trial. It can last fifteen minutes (that'll satisfy the Constitutional right of a "speedy" trial) and open it to everyone (that'll satisfy the Constitutional right of a "public" trial).
Then shoot him.
@ Eve-1337029
Spoken Like a true liberal, Change the Subject, Ignore the Facts, and Name Call.
I no longer live on a farm, hence the "Dumb" part. The worst thing I ever did was get a Degree in Mechanical Engineering, move to the City and have to live in and amongst bigoted, myopic, inane morons like you. (see, I can name call too)
My my, look at the mob...Pitchforks and torches ready to go...
Trust me, I'd like to see this guy strung up by his balls like the next person.
But I love the constitution and bill of rights. All of it. Not just parts. I believe in due process and the right to ownership. I believe in the principles this country was founded on.
So I don't let hatred consume me, and make me into a monster. I won't be like this guy. You shouldn't either. Just put him in a jail cell, and throw away the key.
But I leave this cautionary reminder: be careful what you wish for.
If you cry "harsher punishments" without any clarification, you just might get it. America already has some of the harshest sentences for petty and simple crimes, like possession and theft. Many things are a federal crime in America that are only a misdemeaner elsewhere. America has more people in prison then any other country on earth, including china.
Our prisons are packed full of people who've done nothing anywhere near as evil as this...
And this guy is going to only get, maybe, 20 years.
It's all very bass ackward. Maybe if we didn't lash out in blind emotion all the time, things would make more sense?
Bullet in the head, no muss no fuss case closed.
Giving up the 2nd amendment too ?
Omerte.
I'm sure that you'll feel the same when it's your ass who is accused of something, huh? Especially if you're the wrong guy.
@ JP Dogly....uhhhhh, looks pretty much "case closed" on this one!! Accused and just plain guilty are different!
@twodogs...Agreed!
NO NO NO on the gun. You will wake up the Anti-Gun cake holes.
ETHANOL + fire from his own CIGARETTE LIGHTER....... Just like he did. Watch him burn.
Then he would wake up the Anti-Gun freaks with his screaming and they wouldn't know what to do or what to say since a gun is NOT INVOLVED.
Another lowlife takes away someones quality of life because they have no brain or respect of anyone but themselves.
Whatever he gets I hope it hurts him till the day he dies. Hopefully the woman survives to live a full life.
I'd rather see the guy get run over by an 18 wheeler but that's just me I guess.
Sociopaths don't have feelings. Whatever happens to him, he'll always feel he doesn't deserve it.
You would like to see someone run over by an 18 wheeler? Have you talked to a shrink lately?
Why, yes, I think I would like to see this subhuman sack of monkey dung run over by an 18-wheeler. Slowly. Very, very slowly. Either that or a steamroller, starting at the ankles. Slowly. Very, very slowly. Of course, this beast will get the best public defender taxpayer money can buy, three hots and a cot, cable TV, and free medical care. All the while bleating about how he was railroaded, and how his girlfriend set herself on fire to make him look bad, and how he has now found Jeebus. Then the parole board will let him out in less than a year, due to his exemplary behavior and his demonstrated redemption for his sins as proven by his always carrying a BuyBull, even though he's too illiterate to read it.
Sadly, she'll either take him back or find another cretan just like him.
That's the truly sad part about it Jeanette.
How many times has this man abused her before this? And she took him back.
I would love to see women defended against scum like this guy, but at the same time I question WHY any woman would have such a man in her life to start with.
This is certainly not the first time he's abused her. I don't believe that for a moment.
I'm not a big fan of the bible, but this mass of flesh trying to be a man, needs to be doused in cologne and then given a lighter to play with. An eye for an eye. This is not how a real man treats his woman.
Jesus canceled that whole "eye for an eye" thing. In fact, he saved a woman caught in adultery from facing the death penalty according to Old Testament law.
Or so someone wrote.
Drugs? I guess I come from a part of America -as most do- where it's unimaginable that someone with a healthy mind could do such a thing. Or even a not perfectly healthy mind. My father was, unfortunately, a heavy drinker which some said was a result of his experience in Darby's Rangers in WW2 where he lost half a hand and where certain operations bothered him a little for the rest of his life -like the night raid at Sened Pass, Tunisia, where the Rangers were told, "Use your knives a lot: we're only taking ten prisoners." But he never laid an angry hand on my mother and I don't think it ever occurred to him that that was an option. That has to have something to do with learning a moral code of behavior as you're growing up.
Thank you Mick for your Dad's service to our country. Yes he was a MAN to treat you Mom the way she should be as a human and a lady. Thanks again a fellow USA citizen.
Before I even clicked on this story, I said to myself, 'What do you want to bet this is here in PA?' and it is! Typical. Men in this state are such a$$holes. And the women, I don't get why they insist on procreating with these losers. He had to have shown how violent he was BEFORE she got knocked up.
I'd like to know what she did to drive him insane.
Ah, here we go. Another troll blaming the victim.
This man (and I use that term loosely here) is nothing but evil filth.
3===> ~3 for the next 20 years! Lol.
Is that code?
How much you wanna bet she accepts his apology once she gets out of the Burn Unit?" Yes-he did choke me and set me on fire and leave me for dead.....But deep down I know he really loves me"
Tom, you really have to read up on domestic abuse, whether perpetrated by the man or woman. For the purposes of this post I will use a female victim. Usually the victim has such low self-esteem that she figures she is lucky to have the jerk. She will return to the jerk, or if she leaves him will even find herself yet another jerk that will treat her the same way. Until the cycle is broken by therapy and lots of it, she will remain a victim.
He can't be all bad, he didn't use an assault rifle/pistol (choose one). Surprised it even made the media.
Remember the Bobbitt incident? Over 19,000 comments entered the first day. Not one of them related to gun control or politics. The times they are a changin'. Or are they really?
19,000 comments mostly from men condemning the woman. And now we have a woman horribly burned and we have men making comments about it being her fault, or bringing up gun control.
If we can't even agree that violence against ANYONE is intolerable, how are we to survive as a society?
What she smell like? Was it Diamonds, Chanel, ......... or burnt Heavens
A clue is something you have never had, do not have at the present, and never, ever will have. Pick a different name, dingleberry!
I said make me turkey pot pie!
STFU troll
Violent Video games, has to be. If it doesn't involve a gun, its video games. Now which video game has flaming perfume?
He should have a fair trial.
Then, if he's convicted, the authorities should:
Dress him exactly as his victim was dressed, pour the same amount of perfume on him as his victim (maybe a little extra because he's a guy with less sensitive skin), light it with a lighter, let it burn for a while, throw a blanket AT him and leave. OK, maybe that's too heartless. I guess they should throw him a tube of some burn ointment along with the blanket and before leaving, tell him next time they will use A LOT more perfume.
I believe in the sixth ammendment for those cases where there could be doubt to ones guilt. When a criminal is caught int he act of mayhem if a cop should tke him out i do not believe his rights have been ciolated. when the founding fathers wrote the constitution and the ammendments they thought common sense would prevail. I guess they didn't know about Liberals yet. What could this guys defense be? That he was in Toronto that day. I do'nt think that would be reasonable. We will spent hundreds of thousands to go through a trail which a liberal blood sucking lawyere might accidential convince a jury that he didn't mean to do it and to be easyon the ugy. I reality at the very least he should be put in jail with a life term + 5. With that type of sentence he has to serve the life term before he can sereve the 5. that would mean no parole. Our courts and society are too weak to do the right thing. The person that will suffer the most here is the child.
The Founding Fathers WERE liberals, chucklehead. By any definition. They rebelled against the status quo, set up a new government that conformed to no existing blueprint and gave unprecedented rights to the citizenry, including the idea of equality and the right of self-government. They were deists, agnostics or outright atheists and made sure that religion played no role in governance, an idea that was beyond radical. And that's just scratching the surface. Which of these tenets sounds anything but liberal to you?
The right-wing nuts have attempted to hijack and distort the history of this country's origins in liberal ideology, and the radical philosophy of the Founders. Fortunately, their contortions of logic and outright lies are relatively easily disproved by even just a casual study of the Founders' own writings.
" . . .outright lies are easily disproved . . ."
Like this(?):
Lots of posters would like to claim that many of the founders were deists (true) and that this country was not founded on Christianity (false). Those same folks like to quote Adams from the "Treaty of Tripoli" - see the last quote below.
“That there shall be no establishment of any one religious sect in this Province, in preference to another; and that no Protestant inhabitant of this Colony shall be denied the enjoyment of any civil right, merely on account of his religious principles; but that all persons, professing a belief in the faith of any Protestant sect. who shall demean themselves peaceably under the government, as hereby established, shall be capable of being elected into any office of profit or trust, or being a member of either branch of the Legislature, and shall fully and freely enjoy every privilege and immunity, enjoyed by others their
fellow subjects. “ Constitution of New Jersey, 1776, Article 19.
" I, A B. do profess faith in God the Father, and in Jesus Christ His only Son, and in the Holy Ghost, one God, blessed for evermore; and I do acknowledge the holy scriptures of the Old and New Testament to be given by divine inspiration." Constitution of Delaware, 1776, Article 22.
“ That no person, who shall deny the being of God or the truth of the Protestant religion, or the divine authority either of the Old or New Testaments, or who shall hold religious principles incompatible with the freedom and safety of the State, shall be capable of holding any office or place of trust or profit in
the civil department within this State.” Constitution of North Carolina, 1776, Article 23.
“I do believe in one God, the creator and governor of the universe, the rewarder of the good and the punisher of the wicked. And I do acknowledge the Scriptures of the Old and New Testament to be given by Divine inspiration. And no further or other religious test shall ever hereafter be required of any civil officer or magistrate in this State.” Constitution of Pennsylvania, 1776, Section 10.
" I ___— do believe in one God, the Creator and Governor of the Diverse, the rewarder of the good and punisher of the wicked. And I do acknowledge the scriptures of the old and new testament to be given by divine inspiration, and own and profess the protestant religion." Constitution of Vermont, 1776, Section 2, Article 9.
"Suppose a nation in some distant Region should take the Bible for their only law Book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited! Every member would be obliged in conscience, to temperance, frugality, and industry; to justice, kindness, and charity towards his fellow men; and to piety, love, and reverence toward Almighty God ... What a Eutopia, what a Paradise would this region be." --Diary and Autobiography of John Adams, Vol. III, p. 9.
When this POS gets out of jail I hope one of her relatives makes him disappear. Don't
think anyone will worry about what happened to him.
Put him away for life. Domestic violence should be dealt with harshly.
Drain Bammage. Riht not thnk cant.
Something's missing from the story. WHY he did it.
Until we admit that WOMEN perpetrate domestic violence TOO, nothing's really gonna change.
RIGHT? Because obviousely while fighting off the woman he actually had a chance to pour perfume over her and took a lighter and lit her up. Not to mention that he was already beating her up before lighting her on fire. SO "OBVIOUSELY" it might be the womans fault in this case.... Even if she could have "possibly" insulted him and taunted him. He could left her and gone off somewhere else. No excuse for that type of digusting actions this man took with his baby in the apartment/house.
Why he did it? LMAO he did it because he is a human piece of trash.
Kill Bucket, were you born an ass with a single-digit IQ, or was it too much television and sugary cereal as a child?
This comment is the most disturbing thing that I've read on the internet in a long time. Women get abused BECAUSE men like you think the way you do. I'm sure you and my soon to be ex who is now locked up because of HIS horrible behavior (not mine) would make fast friends. Disgusting. I don't even know you, but your words creeped me out badly. It's like my husband somehow got internet access from the slammer. Shiver.
BUCKET------So if your male friend does something you don't like it is acceptable to try and kill him? You can't have it both ways-------
I do think YOU may be a (potential) family abuser. You at the very least do not sound like you like or respect women. Perhaps they intimidate you, especially if they are successful.
Perhaps I've had a knife at my throat a time or two.
And why did YOU have a knife @ your throat? Were you perpetuating violence? That was your logic. So, are you saying you deserved to have a knife @ your throat?
Just walk away. There is no need for someone to do things like this to another human.
Sh*t happens, Pollyanna.
That's it, ban perfume and no cigarette lighters without universal background checks.
Right, because OBVIOUSLY any nut could fill an industrial-sized spray canister with perfume, douse 20 first-graders in 2 seconds and use a flame-thrower to set them all on fire. Now, why don't MORE of these aninhilator-types think of that one?
Great comparison, Frank. Love your ability to think logically.
Eve-1337029 , actually those 2 &1/2 gallon water "fire extinguishers" found in most schools make xlnt flamethrowers if done properly !
If I was that girls brother or father this guy would want to stay in jail to avoid my payback. I would run him over with my car or beat him all over his body with a bat. She would be the last girl he ever harmed.
It used to be like that. Unfortunately, there are few men left. But there are lots of women who want to be men. They just don't do a very good job of it.
Now you've really gone too far. Women want to be men? Seriously? Why would any self respecting woman want to be a man? Because you are so inherently superior? I don't think so. I would rather die than be a man.
Patter123, you sound like a guy that hasn't been laid in a while and is a bit pissed off at women for it. The trouble is, we can smell your desperation and it is revolting to us. Learn to respect us and you might get some respect back. Bigger is not better and just because you can dominate a woman physically doesn't mean you should. It doesn't endear you to us, boy, it is a huge turn off. Go back to your cave, idiot and leave the thinking to the grownups.
Patter - don't be a moron!
I am more of a man that that @!$%# will ever be, and I am 4'9" and 88 lbs. My husband is PROUD that I make more money than he does...
Cracks me up, people who think females are never unreasonably aggressive.
"Vodka-fueled Bitch" is not something I made up.
Even with the extreme bias of all police and lame stream media reports, skip the trial and move directly to no appeal execution... some crimes don't deserve a day in the injustice system. ©2013
I have to agree, there are instances where there is no question and absolute person is guilty of the crime where a fast track day in court guilty and sentencing is a done deal.
Mass murderers, shooters of mass killings, extreme murderers stabbing 27 times+throat slashing+shooting, and extreme spousal violence, etc.
When the person is caught red handed, then fast track Justice should prevail.
To: Blue n Gold
Police deal with a-holes 99% of their time because the a-hole(s) brought on the negative contact. The other 1% are the decent folks. No one likes a-holes. So, police aren't bias. Being an a-hole, you should know that.