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Eli Wohl / VosIzNeias.com via AP
First responders work at the scene shortly after a car accident in Brooklyn, New York, took the lives of an expectant couple Sunday, March 3, 2013.
A young couple en route to a hospital to have their first child was killed in a car crash in New York City early Sunday but the baby was born at the scene and survived.
Nathan and Raizy Glauber, both 21 and Orthodox Jews, were using a car service to go to the hospital when another vehicle crashed into the side of theirs at an intersection in the Williamsburg neighborhood of Brooklyn, Hasidic community activist and family friend Isaac Abraham said.
Nathan Glauber was pronounced dead at Beth Israel Hospital, while his wife died at Bellevue, the New York Post and The Associated Press reported.
Pictures of the scene were posted on Vos Iz Neias, a news site that covers the Jewish community.
The couple's son was delivered at the scene and was taken to a hospital in serious condition, said Abraham, who is also a neighbor of Raizy Glauber's parents and lives two blocks from the scene of the crash.
Abraham said: "The child is in a serious condition in Beth Israel Hospital, in Manhattan. Now we just pray with the child that all medical efforts keep him alive."
PhotoBlog: Victims caskets at their funeral
He added: "I know Raizy because I saw her grow up from a child."
The driver of the vehicle that hit the couple's car fled, police told the AP. No arrests have yet been made.
The Post reported that a BMW was involved and that it was the driver of the BMW who fled the scene, at the intersection of Kent Avenue and Wilson Street.
The condition of the car service's driver is unclear, police said, according to the AP.
Alastair Jamieson, NBC News, and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
This story was originally published on Sun Mar 3, 2013 6:06 AM EST
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What a horrible way to begin a life. The BMW driver deserves to spend the rest of his life in prison.
what does their religion have to do with it? if anything, it makes me feel even more sad. these two 21-year-olds were probably in an arranged marriage and felt obligated to have children so young and never got to experience life.
It will be like the guy in Florida who wasn't drunk when he had the accident. His Rolls Royce malfunctioned at the stop sign and he walked to a barn where he found some beer and drank it because he was upset. No lie. This happened.Ot that was his excuse. As if anyone would believe that. Then he adopted his girlfried so she would get his money. And the sad part is that I don't know that this guy is even in jail due to his money and lawyer shenanigans.
What a sad news. How horrible to have to be born this way. But seen another way now what could go wrong here onwards? Wish the baby everything best in life.
really sad
Condolences to the family and friends of the lost parents. Tragedies like these are difficult to understand.
Hoping the baby has a full recovery.
Our thoughts and prayers are with you.
Holy @!$%#, RockmeBritney, what a pretentious, judgmental statement.
I really hope they find the driver of the BMW, and throw the book at him. Good luck to the newborn baby.
What a terrible way to come into the world - as an orphan and in serious condition. Hoping this child heals and makes it and has an extended loving family to raise him. Very sad.
Also hoping the driver of the car service is OK. There was no information on him.
not judgmental, its fact. i live in israel. i know how the orthodox community works.
how was the driver's car able to get away after a hit like that? that's insane! i guess that's why BMW's are so expensive. well it's a good thing the baby won't remember what happened to the parents.
More car crash deaths.
I think it's time for some car control. Obama should limit the cars people can drive to 1 cylinder and no more than 100 horsepower. After all, why does anybody need more than that to get from point A to point B? Does it really matter how fast you can get from 0 to 60?
Plus, there's no constitutional amendment that confers the right to own a car. It's time the government does something -anything- to curtail the number of car crash deaths.
As tragic as this accident was, the above sounds pretty stupid, yet it follows the exact same logice that the libtards use to justify gun control.
Leave it a retard to make it about Obama. You need to really seek some professional help for dealing with your hatred for him.
bpmike, the BMW was abandoned, the police will find this rotten bastard driver who fled on foot, also the driver of the livery cab that the expectant couple were using survived and actually called 911.
rockmebritney - it adds human interest. Why are you trying to make an issue out of it?
willie53 - your description of Realist17 is so much better than what I was going to use, which is to say that it takes an ignorant moron like Realist17 to make light of two deaths and try to turn the topic to gun control. Some people just don't have a life.
Just simply heartbreaking. For the friends and family of the couple, and especially the grandparents, what should have been an incredibly happy day, the birth of a grandchild, is now also the saddest, the death of their precious children.
I wish them strength in the times that follow. Many, many condolences to the family and friends.
Realist1: The reality is that cars were not desinged to kill people. 99.99 percent of the time, they perform a non-violent, useful function in society. Guns on the other hand were desinged to kill people, effiently at that. Wether it be a justified kill or not lies in the hands of the holder. Now I am going to say that because of that they should be banned all out... certainly not, but limited, yes. And even most cars are "limited" to 130mph or less, for safety reasons, and the drivers are "limited" to operating only while wearing seatbelt, at risk of fine.
It's the Anti-Christ! OMGGGGGGG
just glad it wasn't kim k. and k. west... couldn't watch the t.v. for all the hoopla that would have erupted...BARRY would have made his usual statement if i had a kid with kim k. ...
'britney, what you think you know is absolutely irrelevant.
Gimme' is absolutely right. You ran your/mouth fingers to make a pretentious, judgmental comment. You are a troll of the worst sort. You are the scourge of the comments world.
We have no reason to believe you live in Israel. You live in your parents' basement in Bum@!$%# wherever.
@Willie, Interesting calling somebody else a retard. I guess your liberal "PC" values only apply to others? Typical. Regardless, while I appreciate your advice, I think a competent leader of the free world will suffice, as opposed to a community organizing clown who wants to hand out free stuff to people, consequences be damned, and dictate everything else... all the while blaming others for his failures - even going so far as to threaten anybody who chooses not to drink the kool-aid and dares to publish anything outside his phony narrative.
@Fred, yes cars are limited to 130 mph (seat belt laws are state laws, not federal laws)... just as automatic machine guns are already banned. Guns are for hunting, self defense, and defense of others. They should not be so limited that they are ineffictive when used for defense purposes against multiple would-be attackers. Why does a car need to travel 130 mph?
whether it be hunting, self defense, or defense of others, it all leads to killing something. A gun's main and only purpose is to kill, unlike cars.
Anything? Then I suggest that the population has become so overwhelming, that it's obvious that more car crashes are inevitable. So, the solution is to limit births. Too many people jamming the roads with too many cars. THAT'S the problem. Vasectomies for all males!
Vasectomies for all males? Why not tied tubes for all females??? After all, Hillary isn't in office YET...
But that's an amazing idea - Obama would probably LOVE that type of gov't regulation. Though he'd rather allow conception and kill the babies while they are in the womb.
rockmebritney - What does living in Israel have to do with your judgments of how others live their lives? Nothing actually.. What doesn't work for you, doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't work for others. A young couple either way won't have a chance to experience life.. Doesn't matter a lick about their religion.. that's the only darn thing you are correct about. You have an entire life to grow up. Good luck with that.
You did say the government should do 'anything', and this certainly would apply. Get off your high horse. You have too many cracks in your head already.
rockforbrainsbritney,
Too bad your parents ever met. You have to be about half ignorant with that kind of commentary.
Your mom should have swallowed. Or at least taken it third input style. The world would be much better without fools like you!
Realist17: for your information, automatic machine guns have not been banned. They are legal to own in all states except South Carolina if registered per federal laws.
Just out of curiosity, I am wondering how many "multiple would-be attackers" you are expecting to need to defend yourself from? You do have a pretty snotty attitude, but have you made THAT many enemies? Or is it that you feel the need to sit up in bed all night aiming your AR at your door just in case 30 rapists break in all at once?
I'm all for guns. I own several and have a permit to carry concealed. But for the life of me, I cannot fathom why a regular citizen would need an assault weapon. If life gets that savage that we're all needing to kill multiple would-be attackers on a regular basis, then I'm done with this life!
Realist17 - it sounds as though you live in a fantasy world. Exactly how many times do you think the average person is going to be attacked by multiple people during his lifetime, especially if he or she doesn't intentionally wander into crimeridden neighborhoods where no one is safe? You have seen too many Rambo movies.
Tsk, tsk, tsk, Realist17. You apparently don't recognize sarcasm when it hits you in the face. Sarcasm was Enneagram1's intent. BTW, vasectomies are simple procedures that can be done in a doctor's office with localized anesthesia. Tubal ligation requires major surgery in a hospital with full anesthesia. Does that answer your question why vasectomies are preferred over tubal ligation? The latter is more expensive and a greater risk to the life of the woman.
Realist17
Get a life, seriously!
ReckinRobin, for your information, cars are also allowed to go over 130 MPH. See the Daytona 500. But the basic analogy holds.
Enniegram1, clearly I was being sarcastic when I said that the government should do 'anything' - pointing out the stupidity of the govt's rationale for gun control (i.e., doing something - anything - for the mere purpose of acting, regardless of whether the regulations will work).
If somebody's wife is home when three armed gunmen break in to rob them, or hurt her or their children, damn straight she should have the right to as much ammunition as necessary to eliminate the threat. And by the way, situations such as these happen ALL the time. Just last month or so, a woman pumped 5 rounds into an intruder, and he was STILL able to run out the house. If there were three intruders, the limitations on gun clips would have gotten her killed. In any event, you don't have the right to tell her that she can't protect herself. Not to mention that gun control will only control guns in the hands of the 'good guys'. The bad guys won't hear about the gun laws and then all-of-a-sudden decide to comply, especially when they've already been ignoring our current gun laws. Time for you to wake up - enforcing gun control on the good guys isn't the answer.
And ABC, with regard to my comment about vasectomies, you clearly don't recognize sarcasm when it hits YOU in the face.
Realist can recognize sarcasm (and I'm not admitting that my comments were), but he doesn't know what else to do with his time other than to annoy people; and his thing is to get as many negative comments directed at him as he can. Doing well, I'd say! ;)
How does a newborn have a REcovery?
ABCzyx -
I agree. Why is nbcnews trying to make an issue out of the couple's religion? Did the BMW driver know they were jewish? Was the accident more or less severe because they were jewish? Are jews exempted from auto accidents but somebody forgot to tell god?
No Enneagram, I'm actually working right now - taking breaks every now and then to educate the libtards like yourself.
I figure as long as I have to work weekends as part of my job in order to earn a decent salary which then gets redistributed to others (because I'm so fortunate, of course, to be have to work nonstop weekdays and weekends), I've kinda earned the right to say what I want.
And you have the right not to listen to me while you leach off me and others like me - you can just spew your radical liberal extremism into your new Obamaphone. Heaven forbid you learn some facts that call out your political agenda.
I hope that baby is taken to a good home and loved and cared for.
I also hope that the person who did that is in agonizing pain due to internal bleeding that will last a number of days until they finally expire in an undignified manner on a public toilet.
There are about 32,000 gun deaths per year. http://www.policymic.com/articles/21330/there-are-32-000-gun-deaths-a-year-in-the-u-s-here-is-how-we-get-that-number-to-zero
In 2010, there were about about 33,000 car crash fatalities. http://www.statisticbrain.com/car-crash-fatality-statistics-2/
More lives can be saved with car control than gun control.
Can we possibly get back to the subject at hand? Politics, gun control and birth control have no place on this thread. You may have the right to express yourself, but it is only common courtesy to keep your personal agenda for an appropriate forum.
Britney: I had my baby girl at 22 she was an accident. Believe me I had PLENTY of fun and I never regretted it. You sound very judgemental. Not all jewish peole have arranged marriages either. It is unfortunate that many women my age don't want to have children because of selfish reasons. I am not saying every one, after all the economy sucks but many women my age (26) act like having kids is the end of the world! I suppose this is your story but I don't know. Sure it is harder than not having kids but health-wise it is healthiest for mom and baby if the mother is anywhere from 22-28 years. The disgust people show about having kids at this age is astonishing. Like i said, hopefully it is the economy talking.
Shame on the majority of you nasty posters! Most are off subject, and almost ALL are snarky. NOT necessary, especially considering the ORIGINAL subject.
By the way, I support the post from Rockmebritney. I am familiar with the Hasidic community. They are ULTRA Orthodox. She is, most likely, correct about the marriage being arranged. And if you know ANYthing about Jewish mothers, you know that as soon as the wedding is over, they are wanting a grandbaby to love and spoil!
At the very least, she was on-subject, and expressed feelings of condolence.
Very few of you can say the same.
This was a horrible tragedy for the deceased and their families. May the deceased find peace in heaven, and the families find peace in their hearts. May the child have a complete and timely recovery, and a love and laughter filled life.
YET AGAIN the leftist liberal media FAILS to mention that the TAXI went thru the STOPSIGN , it was the TAXI DRIVERS FAULT as he had the STOP ,the BMW was going strieght and had NO STOPSIGN & had the "RIGHT OF WAY" the TAXI was also "UNLICENSED" ,NO BUT THEY ARE JEWISH ,SO THE RULES DON'T APPLY TO THEM ,looks like the RULES of physics won this time
This story makes me shake my head, look to the stars and ask; Why? I hope the parents are in heaven and the baby boy survives. Still if the little fella makes it, he will never hear Happy Birthday!
Sorry but there is no such thing as heaven, except in your mind and in the minds of other deluded folks who require no evidence.
There. Fixed it for you.
Why must you take the thoughts, feelings, condolences and well wishes of someone and try to smear it with your mud??? This and all of your other nasty comments peppered throughout this. You read like you have a vendetta.
If the little fella makes it, he will have no recollection of the accident whatsoever ever. There is no reason that this child should have to mourn on his birthdays in the future. I hope the child will be OK and has a good, safe home to go to that will raise him as their own.
I'll keep out of the religious part of the conversation as I see it as a moot point.
AB - and what value is your comment that seeks to take away someone's faith as they try to deal with a tragedy ? Why do you feel compelled to make that observation at this time ?
Have some decency and STFU !!
chefaz-1319563, if there is evidence, you must present it, but since you have failed to do this, you're nothing but a liar and a false hope.
GungaDin, I in fact do have the decency to see things objectively. It is those who see things with a religious eye that reject objectivity.
Justopit - you make a good point. His birthdays can be a celebration of the fact that he survived and might be chosen for accomplishing something special within his lifetime. I'm not a religious person, but that doesn't mean that there is not a special reason for his survival.
I don't have to present anything. There is plenty of evidence out here. All the books, classes, aids, eye witness testimony, etc., that anyone could ask for just the same as any other subject. You have a computer. If you're that interested, make the effort.
***yaaawwwwaaannnn*** marked inflammatory, as were all of your other (ugh) posts. BTW...where is your evidence??? LOL
It is SAD that the parents died and little baby is in poor shape, and if we want to BELIEVE that the parents went to HEAVEN we have the RIGHT to BELIEVE that, if someone doesn't want to Believe than they don't have to- But Don't Tell Us What To BELIEVE, Maybe If People BELIEVED more in the Good- Maybe More GOOD Things Would HAPPEN! AMEN!
Hey AB 1981. This is a tragic story. No one wants to hear you using this as a chance to spout off.
Too tragic for words. The BMW driver will never again enjoy peace as long as he or she lives. May the baby grow up and honor the father and mother he never knew.
Hehe :)
Guys, guys. AB is a religion troll, one of those people who read anything religious and begin to foam at the mouth. It will never get off its soapbox because that's the only way people talk to it.
My heart goes out to the families who are dealing with this loss. I can't imagine how this child will grow up knowing his parents where murdered on his birthday, I can only hope he is raised with all the love his parents should have been able to give him. I hope they find the BMW driver soon and punish him or her accordingly. What a coward.
I'm an EMT and, not to be insensitive, I'd like to know how that baby was delivered. That close to birth that the delivery just went on? Mom was conscious enough to do what she needed to do?
Can we have a standing ovation for the EMS in this incident? Losing 2 patients is a horror. Bringing a baby into the world is a joy.
AB, it's called faith. Not knowing something exists, but believing it does. Just like Freedom, we know it exists and it's fading away in this great country. But believing it will be back is faith.
I will never understand why some people have to begrudge other people for believing in religion. I happen to not be a religious person but I certainly don't care that others are. I have had religious people tell me they will pray for me in certain situations and I just tell them "thank you" and go about my business. Who knows, I may be wrong about my beliefs and their "I'll pray for you" just might help me out.
Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs just as everyone is entitled to live in a certain neighborhood, eat a certain diet, date a certain type person, watch what they want on TV, etc. Why is religion any different? A person should be allowed to believe as they will without someone else making disparaging remarks about them. This is a discussion forum and while discussions about religious beliefs are welcome, personal attacks on people who are believers are just not cool.
music for these comments...but there will be one child left to carry on...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWTjCeF8sj8
Lyrica, if returning us back to reality is trollish, then yes I am an anti-religion troll. I have zero tolerance for the bull$hit that religion espouses. It's for dimwits and suckers.
Gabriel-1934044, sorry but I don't share your blind faith. Freedom does not go up or down automatically - it is earned with courtroom battles or with spilled blood.
His parents were the only ones who could sing Happy Birthday? And after all these years I find friends and other relatives violated that code of ethics/morality.
AB~ If, in your version of reality, all you can do is troll those who offer their own form of comfort to those who lost lives, even if it may involve prayer (something you don't believe in).....if in your version of reality you bypass any form of empathy or condolence and favor cynicism and tactless disregard to those who lost loved ones as you sit there all high and mighty in your computer chair...then your 'reality' is quite frankly pathetic. You really think your actions make you better? You're just as bad, if not worse, then those religious morons who spout hellfire for NOT believing in their faith, only you're spouting it for not believing in YOUR ideals. You are EXACTLY like them except you refuse to see it, so yeah...being closed minded and bigoted is for dimwits and suckers and I don't have the blind faith needed to believe what you say is absolute truth.
That being said, I know I'm wasting my time, those who think like you do never want to see themselves as flawed in their reasoning, they just want to attack those who think differently. And I'm talking about all spectrum's of belief, including the lack of. Have a nice day.
Now I get it. Believing something positive will come out of a warm fuzzy feeling. Next time I pee my pants I will get a warm fuzzy feeling but I believe nobody will notice.
Lyrica, in case there was a misunderstanding, may I remind you that this is a news site. It's not a site to express comfort or condolences. The family of the deceased won't come here to address their sorrow. As such, the expression of condolences here is entirely trite, wasteful and meaningless. I said what I did because I know many orthodox Jews drive like they're the only car on the road - it is they who disregard common courtesy. And waiting till the last minute to go to the hospital to have your baby delivered is hardly an intelligent thing to do. It's entirely possible that the cab driver was pressured to drive fast and extra-unsafely to get to the hospital in time.
Ok I know I implied that I wasn't going to respond, practically said it really but I just had to comment on something. "Waiting til the last minute to go to the hospital to have your baby.."??? Are you for real? I can tell your a guy now. How do you know she didn't go into premature labor? Common courtesy? Wow...just wow...and here I thought I was talking to someone who was just a religious troll, you took ignorance and just ran with it. Yes this is a news site, it is a site where people can reach out and who knows who is reading, you have no idea if family or friends will be reading this nor do you have any idea if they will be reading the comments. Waiting til the last minute to go to the hospital to have your baby......just.....wow. I wasn't laughing at you until now.
You know the BMW driver must have been doing something REALLY wrong/bad to actually FLEE a complete catastrophe of a wreck.
Most people want to keep everything the way it was for the insurance and police.
Also, the BMW driver wouldn't have known who he just killed unless he had got out and checked.
Clearly it was a very evil selfish person who killed this family and the future of the baby (If it survives).
The moral of the story:
Have your babies at home with a midwife where the danger of driving to the hospital is avoided and the baby isn't connecting with doctors in a horrible setting before it sees its own mother.
Lyrica, thank you for your corrective response. I admit my last reply made largely no sense, and was based on incorrect and unjustified assumptions which you fixed for me. I'm here to do the right thing. My behavior here earlier was driven by my biases, which however are driven by the behavior I have witnessed and read about relating to orthodox jews. To understand my position, please see the #7.10 post by MARK S-971793. Thanks again.
AB - You are missing the point.
The point is that if someone wants to lean on his faith in order to deal with life, there is absolutely no value in your raising doubts about that.
Leave them alone.
AB- You must be a COMPLETE idiot (which you make apparent by your painful ability to comprehend what you read). Or did you just try trolling after reading only the headline?
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Do you understand what that is?
Additionally, if you are making a scientific claim, (ie there is no God), it is up to YOU to prove it. Not just spout off at the mouth and demand others disprove you.
Let's try it the other way around, I'll make a scientific assertion and you disprove it. Ready? I'll even offer some supporting evidence. "You are a brainless idiot." The entire comment section is full of evidence supporting my assertion, it's up to you to disprove it.
Go.
was this another super hero story?
Stupid Comment of the Week, Lloyd - and it's only Sunday. And, you probably got ready for church after your post.
GFY Lloyd!
Children have their own angels. Born of a great sacrifice miracle child should have a great purpose.
Lloyd....you are a clown.
Why did they have to report they were jewish and then go into how many jews live in Brooklyn. That has nothing to do with the story.
This is usually where a person says "Omigod, how horrible! I pray the little child makes it and the family of those lost see them in him." or something to that effect.
Or even comment about something other than a race omission or inclusion.
So people will avoid making comments that they were so young...
For your own knowledge... See now you know it...
Marywhatever, you never did well in reading comprehension throughout your (presumed) 12 years of basic prep education?
The article cites community activists that provided the bonafide info on the deceased. They (the Hasidic) community provides a context for why the expectant parents were likely using a car service. The close-knit religious community of Jews (in a huge burough of NYC) will ensure the child will be given proper care.
And lastly, the final sentence of the article really anchors why the religious bit is mentioned and relevant.
Dumba**.
I will never understand why people have to insult others when they don't like a post or think it unintelligent. It's just plain mean. Especially on a story like this.
Poor little boy. I hope he's OK. At least he's got family left and he's got to be the only hope they see right now.
Because Mary's comment was patronizing and condescending; she's beating a very old drum, she's pretending she's way above the hoi polloi who like to know the simplest details about a story. And she's just as fascinated by the detail as anyone else. So that's why it was a dumb post.
What I will never understand is how people can see the countless utterly random and pointless tragedies unfolding around the world, just like this one, and continue to believe their loving Jesus smiles upon them and succors them and on and on and on... or insert Buddha, or Allah or the F, S & HG.
Gimmeabreakoradrink, are you kidding me? The child will likely be put up for adoption by a random third-party who doesn't know the background, or more likely be put in foster care. Close-knit religious community my a$$. The only thing they're close to is $$$ and driving dangerously.
Crass, crude and socially inept. Don't comment on that which you know nothing of. And, apparently, judging from your rant, you don't know much. You sound very ignorant, uneducated and bitter. They are a close knit community, they live modestly and.... driving dangerously?! They weren't driving; but, apparently reading comprehension is not one of your finer points, either. My heart breaks for this family. A wonderful event, the birth of a child, to be marred by this tragedy. I pray for them all, and for the complete recovery of this special child.
That baby, if it survives, (because she was at the end of her second trimester) will not be adopted. It will be raised by relatives and brought up in the Hasidic traditions.
Michele - how do you figure that she was at the end of her second trimester? The article clearly states, "A young couple en route to a hospital to have their first child", which would indicate that she was full term (as in three trimesters since "tri" refers to three). If posts on discussions such as these are truly an indication of the ability of American citizens to comprehend what they read and write, then this country is in deep trouble from which it will probably never recover.
AB-1981
perhaps someday you may learn....something...like common sense, respect, consideration. Those are probably big words for you...so try looking them up on dictionary.com. Until you learn some of those traits...I hope God will look out for you...
Why did they have to report they were Jewish? How about because they were probably going to a Jewish hospital. There are plenty of hospitals in Brooklyn, why did they have to go to Beth Israel in Manhattan?
Beth Israel isn't "a Jewish Hospital." It's one of the finest medical facilities in Manhattan.
Also, for those who like to nurse their prejudices at the breast of their ignorance and unwillingness to research before making hateful statements: the baby is going to be raised by his grandparents. Had you taken the time to search out the multiple news sources who reported this, you would have known this before slamming the Jewish community.
But they were in Brooklyn. Whats wrong with the hospitals there?
I pray the baby survives. Prayers to the families.
This is sad.
Cuomo needs to make a law that pregnant women can't be in car crashes.
Amend it to the new gun law he made.
I'm sure he already thought of this though
You sir, are an idiot.
@Jim - What a completly valueless post. Go back to bed. Do you even realize what happened tonight in Brooklyn?
@Jim -- I completely agree with Roger. It's also sad how you have to check your own comments.
This is a tragedy where two parents are dead and a baby is in dire straits at the moment. So why Jim do you choose to ploiticize this horrible event? EVerything is not political. Were you trying to be sarcastic? If you were this was not the place or the situation to do it.
Condolences to the family, and prayers for the little one to make it.
Only a guy with a gun can stop killer drivers. "Gospel of Wayne LaPierre".
JIM - When you tag a tragedy with a political statement, you are little better than the Westboro Baptist Church. Try a little respect and restraint, like the rest of the world.
Jim: Your comment really makes you look bad. I hope you have more sense than that, otherwise, do all of us a favor and keep your ignorant comments to yourself.
@Jim - you are a truly sad human being. This situation is nothing to joke about yet you choose to use it as a platform for your unfunny and heartless comment. Totally inappropriate, free speech or not.
My heart goes out to this poor child, may God bless him and his family. R.I.P. Nathan and Raizy.
What a pinhead.
Apparently I'm the only person who didn't read Jim's comment literally. I read it as sad and wry.
what a dumbass
Guys...Jim is a troll. Stop feeding the troll. He is a pathetic individual who has nothing better to do in life than to try to bring attention to himself. Don't grant him his wishes.
feed the baby to the troll ! SO IT DON'T GO ON WELFARE
Either way, Jim has a point. Cuomo has a bill in the works to outlaw pregnant women. Any woman found carrying a baby more than 7lbs will be charged with a class C felony.
The boy will have a strong community to support him. That is probably why the religion was mentioned. I love NY.
Thank You !
takenaka, you're kidding yourself. The only thing they worship is $ and themselves, not some random child. As a case in point, the driver who killed them was probably someone from their community too. If they're so religious, why did s/he not stop? Wake up to reality already.
The child will be put in foster care.
AB-1981. You just need to shut up and crawl back into your hole.
Seppie, this is my hole. Unlike you and takenaka, I dare to see things dispassionately.
AB-1981 - apparently you don't have the intelligence to consider that the baby probably has grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc. Why would a child be put in foster care if he has living relatives who want him? Not the brightest bulb in the box, are you?
ABCzyx, I believe they would have to formally adopt the child which is a non-trivial process. They would have to agree to specific protocols, meetings, and checks. You're assuming a lot here.
AB-1981 yes ...but that's what family does...obviously not yours...your family should recognize that you need help...and get it for you, fast...you may be the next whack job we read about exercising your "right to bare arms"
chrisk196, it's spelled "bear", not "bare". For more info, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_bear_arms . And yes, I will exercise my right for self-defense. I take of myself and don't need my family to do it for me.
The baby will undoubtedly be put in the care of relatives while the formal adoption process takes place. It makes no sense to place him in foster care when there are relatives capable and willing to take him, which I'm sure there are.
@Takenaka ,NY is a filth hole,i seen plenty of jews do alot of bad things even to there own people ,had a "assault jew" run into five vehicles with his private GMC Denali "ambulance" then flee the scene while he was drunk driving ! WTF!! he even had"OFFICIAL PLATES" on his private EMS vehicle ,ironically he "dissapeared" in a hatzolah ambulance to flee the scene to avoid blood alcohol testing and breathlizer ,they do this ALL THE TIME IN THE JEWISH COMMUNITY ,just seen another wreck 2 weeks ago with another "high cap" SUV "esclade" it belonged to a jewish rehab clinic ,the driver was a PATIENT! hit 4 other cars totalling them all ,while the victims went with FDNY EMS , the driver dissapeared with "hatzolah ambulance" it was his fault but he vanished before the police could test him ,p.s. he never even stepped on the brakes when he collided with all 4 cars
MARK S-971793, I agree entirely when it comes to orthodox jews. There seems to be a disproportionate number of fatal collisions attributable to their insane driving. I have seen the way they drive in NYC first hand.
Ok...I'm here as requested by AB to read comment 7.10 and I can say...with even just the SLIGHTEST bit of research:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/12/nyregion/new-yorks-jewish-population-is-growing-again.html?_r=0
So, on average, if you have more of one group in a location you are going to have more dealings with said group. Example: I live in a college town, I have gotten into more near accidents with college kids then I have any other group of people. The number of collisions caused by college kids will be higher as there are MORE of them in one location. That does NOT mean that all college kids are poor drivers, it just means that more of them in one place means a higher chance that I will have dealings with one.
The actions of a few do NOT speak for the many. Bad drivers are going to get press regardless of their religious affiliation. As it is, there are currently stigmas for the driving abilities of Asians, the elderly, teens, men, women, cell phone users, spaghetti monsters from space....hopefully you get the point.
@Lyrica ,they got a nasty habit of leaving the scene when at fault ,by guess what "private jewish ambulances"such as hatzolah !just misterously show up and they"dissapear" without a trace,seen this happen so many times ,they just call there"private ambulance" and use it as a car service to escape the scene to avoid DUI/DWI ,most of the time its there fault too ,then they try to blame the victims and even sue them sometimes ,i caught one of these on tape back in the 90's when they tried to sue the victim ,i fried his ass in court ,as well as got all the victims court cost returned as there lawyer got caught red handed"playing the system"
What kind of sick animal would crash into a car, seriously injure or kill someone and flee the scene. There is no punishment that would be too severe for this low life. My prayers are with the parents and their family. I hope the baby has a full recovery.
Sounds like a lot of the minority group that live in coastal Georgia: Uneducated, bad attitude, already in trouble with the law, no morals and don't give a phuck about others in society.
There are many reasons why:maybe they were drunk or wanted for another crime. I live in AZ and this happens all the time. Illegal, excuse me, undocumented aliens do not take drivers ed, do not know the laws and when they get into an accident they flee. They are not traceable.
Hopefully whoever the driver was in this incident will be traceable via registration, tags, etc....
Well since gimmeabreak knows everything about minorities, that should sum up your question...maybe he's been doing a little too much drinking!
Um, Gimmeabreakoradrink...apparently you didn't comprehend that the accident occurred in New York City, which is a few hundred miles north of Georgia.
but the BMW driver is not at fault? as the TAXI driver ran the STOPSIGN??? and was not licensed either????BMW driver had the RIGHT OF WAY and no STOPSIGN ,BUT THE MEDIA FAILED TO REPORT THIS???
Read another article from yesterday about this, sadly the baby did not survive his injuries. :(
The 'devil' does exist...
Why and how ?
Well look for yourself, the definition of 'half-truth' is incomplete...and the new types identified, (back in 1989) suggest that the logic of a true half-truth that lies, will eventually correct the definition of lie and truth, giving credibility to the story of Adam and Eve.
The media were advised of this back in the 1990's and have kept it their secret.
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Poor title to this article.
It is a tragedy, including the driver of the car....
However, it is a self imposed tragedy. Many think they can do anything and get by with it. Many do sort of. They know what they did and why. That imo is why we see so much drug and alchohol use. It helps them leave themselves and memories for a while. But the good news or bad however you look at it is that they never quite can. Chickens eventually come home to roost.
kt, what on earth are you talking about?
What an unfortunate story; but believing he is destined for great things having survived this...
very sad. I hope the child makes it and has family to care for him. The BMW hot and run, sounds like some drug dealer or druggie scummer in his fancy stolen or not (if a dealer). I hope some of the men of Williamsburg catch this monster, hang him upside down and feed him his cohones for breakfast.
redhand - if you must use vulgar slang in your posts, at least learn to spell. It's "cojones", Einstein.
Very sad news, but hopefully the boy will be cared for within the family who I assume is a vast community which is the point of defining the couple as Jewish. In my opinion this is a quick story and says nothing.
My heart breaks for these two families who just lost their children and that poor little baby. The last line of this article made my stomach turn.
PLEASE, Alastair Jamieson, explain what that last line has anything to do with this horrific story. Their religion is irrelevant. If my common sense serves me correctly, the large populations of this particular religion can be a "hot topic" for some (not me.) Would you, by any chance, be trying to lure your readers into a debate of cruel and anit-semetic comments, Mr. Jamieson? Just asking.
Really! What does that have to do with anything?
The religion mention is just story fluff... It is a close-knit kind of community which can shed a bit of happy light knowing that that little baby will be taken care of. Thoughts and prayers to ALL family AND friends of this couple. And I'm sure he will grow up hearing wonderful stories about his parents.
So much premature death is from motor-vehicles and firearms!
Sad story.
Condolences to the family.
SHOULDN'T This Headline READ:
"Parents killed in crash, un-identifiable blob of tissue expelled from deceased female's body."
Shame on you
Not cool.
Disgusting, oh, I forgot, that is what the Democrat's think of unborn children! God bless this family and their baby!
Congratulations Kathy, you are stupid enough to but the trolls handle, and join in.
Kathy's got a moral insight though. Why are the liberal women's groups decrying the delivery of this baby? I mean, it's now "another mouth to feed by others, contributing to population growth, pulling resources. I mean, how do we know the parents would want the child to be born, since they're dead and we can't ask them?"
Kathy's philosophical comment is right on target. What about the millions of other babies scraped out of wombs annually in the US (that have NOTHING to do with rapes or incest?).
You are a disgusting excuse for a human being.
@Oldtimedemocrat - you are a shame and embarrassment to all Democrats. What a filthy, uncouth remark. You should slap your own face and kick your own hind-end.
Why? Oldtimedimocrat is right. That is how the left views unborn babies. So if the reporting were consistent, that is how it would have read.
Michelle, disgusting excuses for human beings are those OK with innocent unborn babies being ripped out of the womb and chopped up in little pieces in the name of women's rights.
@54buick - No, that is how Oldtimedemocrat views unborn babies. I happen to be a Dem and while I believe in a woman's right to chose, an abortion is a horrible way of birth control, what with so many viable alternatives available. I would never celebrate the loss of life of two innocent parents-to-be or their unborn child in a car crash. I would also never celebrate the death of a Republican, a right wing anti-abortion right to lifer, or any unborn child, either.
It is amazing to me that so many people on these boards are so quick to paint all people with such broad strokes, that all Dems are just the same, that all Repubs are just the same, all who lean left and all who lean right - just the same. Are you now going to tell me that Republicans never have abortions? Please, just please. As a former health care worker in a town that is overwhelming republican I can tell you for sure that republicans certainly do have abortions. They may walk the lines with signs proclaiming "pro-life" but they sneak into the back door to the abortion clinics on a daily basis.
I stand by my original post in that Filthyolddemocrat is wrong and an embarrassment to any Democrat. And to tell the truth, I really think the name is a sham only to incite Repubs in having more to hate Dems for. Basically a troll, a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Oldtimedemocrat: You sir/madam are a disgrace to the world. Had this happened to your family, How would feel . It takes all kinds of people to make up this world and you are the kind we do not need. Two lives lost and one in danger. What kind of a person would make a remark like yours.
What's up here? Has our Party gone back to being Pro-Life?
Democrat my ass. Liberals are just as saddened by this as anyone, and your comment is clearly thrying to make Democrats look bad.
Troll.
Libs are saddened by the death of the parents...well some of them. But they can't be saddened by the death of the unborn baby, otherwise they would not support partial birth abortion.
I am not the kind to wish anybody bad luck, but I hope your computer blows up.
How disgusting. Some of you should be ashamed. This is about a living baby who is term and was most likely about to be born anyway. Making this about politics or abortion is disgusting. Shame.
there is no party in tragedy.
Even if the child doesn't survive, don't mourn too deeply for him. He'll be in heaven with God his Father and his parents; whom he didn't get a chance to meet in person.
The ability to devalue life is one major problem with religion. Yes it brings solace in the face of tragedy, but it also allows for jihad and crusades.
To bad his parents rejected god.He may never see them again.
Jews rejected Jesus, not God.
I grew up in one of European cities with Jews.. We never asked EVER these kind of questions... How sad for some Americans to feel "supreme, someone bigger then the neighbor... Do you really have God in you ... while saying those words?
Gunjunke, Europeans were and are quite judgmental and "superior-complexed", too. Get off yoru soapbox.
Perhaps the poster does have God in him, since he relays the Truth that was revealed to the world (Jews and Gentiles) 2000 years ago. Would you scold him if the comment was about Buddhists, Muslims, etc?
SAD story...When they find the driver who took off... I bet He orShe has a rap sheet a mile long ...This person should probably have been in Jail...The Judge and NYC should be held LIABLE....Fine NYC and put the JUDGE behind bars for not doing his JOB....To many Criminals walking the streets in all of America...
An American car wouldn't have done this..
An American car wouldn't have crumbled like the piece of crap Toyota did. But you know the car services in this city, only worried about economy. Must be a Hybrid POS. The old Town Cars and Caprices at least got people to their destinations alive, regardless of how many miles per gallon they got.
I hope the baby will be Ok... So sad, so sorry it happened..