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Subscribe to RSSA 7-year-old boy Baltimore boy was suspended from school after his teacher complained that the boy chewed a breakfast pastry into the shape of a gun, the boy's father says.
In a note that was sent to parents Friday, Park Elementary School officials told parents only that "a student used food to make an inappropriate gesture," WBFF-TV of Baltimore reported.
The boy, Josh Welch, a second-grader, told the station he was actually trying to shape a mountain, "but it didn't look like a mountain really, and it turned out to be a gun, kinda."
Josh's father, B.J. Welch, called Josh's two-day suspension "insanity."
"With all the potential issues that could be dealt with at school — real threats, bullies, whatever — the real issue is, it's a pastry," he told WBFF. "You know?"
Educators have been extra sensitive to representations of weapons in the wake of the mass shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., in which 20 children and six educators were killed.
In January, a 5-year-old girl was suspended for making a "terroristic threat" at a kindergarten in the Mount Carmel Area, Pa., School District for saying she was going to shoot classmates and herself with her pink "Hello Kitty" bubble gun.
NBC Philadelphia: Kindergartner suspended for pink bubble gun threat
"This is a good-natured little girl," said Robin Ficker, an attorney for the girl, who hasn't been identified because of privacy laws. "And this shows how hysterical people who work at schools have become since Sandy Hook."
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insanity for sure, but this boy is so lying saying he was trying to make it into a mountain. One looks nothing like the other.
Suspended for chewing a pastry? Truly, the inmates are running the asylum.
So you get suspended for making something that sort of looks like a gun out of a pop tart, or for bullying a kid to death. Seems right.
And chewed pastry looks like any other chewed food. Disgusting. You, I assume didn't see the "chewed art" but just automatically assume the 2nd grader is a liar. WTF. I do not know how a mountain or a gun or any other item could be replicated by chewed up food. Apparently you are an expert. You must be the Henry Lee of chewed food analysis. Did they teach that at Yale?
diana,
Your unreasoning hysteria is out of control. There was no gun. There was pastry.
You lefties must control your inane fear of inanimate objects.
The child should be charged as an adult. To the full extent of the law. Lock that kid up before he makes a mess.
You've gotta be kidding diana the kids only 7, in 2nd grade and your bitching about the kid lying.The kid's probably scared @!$%#less with what's happening and who gives a fk if he was trying to chew a gun because it's PASTRY.The people who think this is proper are the liberal asss holes who are pushing for gun control by turning these little things into a big deal.This is obamas tax increases at work and is the reason my kid schools online.The public school system is a liberal JOKE, broken and everyone working there is over paid.
Way to go libs.....you are turning this once great nation into the land of pus*ys. Hope your happy.
This is NOT a "liberal" movement. Please quit saying that it is.
Zero-tolerance policies are used by conservatives. They are beloved of conservatives. They allow them to expel as many students of color and "non-conforming" students as they would like to. Notice that they do not use these same zero-tolerance policies to get rid of students who harrass LGBT children--a student can threaten to kill an LGBT child, and the administrators will say that "there's no corroborating evidence."
The child is ADHD. They don't want to deal with it. This particular teacher probably dislikes the student because he is ADHD. Teachers and administrators harrass children and parents to get rid of students like this or try to get as many "behavioral" issues on their records as possible to be able to transfer them to a school where they can be warehoused until they are 18. This is not a liberal thing--this is a conservative thing.
The individual teacher could be liberal or conservative--but this is not about "guns." This is about getting rid of an ADHD kid because they don't like him.
Who the hell cares if it really was supposed to look like a gun?
Any teacher that thinks a kid making a "pastry gun" represents some kind of actual threat or problem, obviously doesn't have the cognitive capacity to be a teacher, and they need to go find a job that doesn't require thought and reasoning.
This is just a cry baby liberal trying to impress upon our kids that somehow guns are evil.
Punishment depends on whether it was a fully automatic assault pastry or a double action pastry. Assault pastry should definitely be banned. Think what the kid could do with that pastry in a food fight. Oh, the humanity!
He should've chewed it into the shape of a knife. Then maybe he would've just gotten detention.
Uh, JK, are you being serious? If you are then you missed the point drastically. They were talking about the kid biting pieces off of the pastry until the shape resembled a gun, not the food he had already chewed up. Just curious how you jumped to that conclusion, that what was being talked about was already-chewed food. Then jumping off on other commentors, sounding like a lunatic when you're so far off the mark makes you look just a tad bit silly. Just sayin'.
Sure it does. Cut away the right-hand side of the mountain, leaving the top and bottom alone. Then, cut apart some of the bottom-left corner, creating a roughly "L" shaped object. "L"s look like pistols to most kids.
When the people running the schools are as foolish as this... how can anyone expect their children to get a decent education?
They haven't been acting sensitive at all, they are acting @!$%#ing retarded. I can understand a zero tolerance policy, but it should damn well be for something that is actually capable of causing damage. Not for a picture, pastry, drawing, embroidered design, etc etc.
Just more stupidity. These idiots over react to a simple harmless childs silly action of chewing food and make a big deal out of absolutely NOTHING!!!!!!!! But, I'm sure the silly ass teacher felt that she "saved" the day!
Just more proof libs are ruining our country. Giving guns to Mexican drug gangs gets you protection from our comrade and chief. Biting a pastry into a gun gets you suspended. The liberal disease is spreading, and then they wonder why we support the constitution.
These "educators", (and I use THAT term loosely), who are making these bone-headed decisions are just following their anti-Constitutional leaders, and nothing more. If the old saying is true that the teachers of today mould the leaders of tomorrow, we are seriously screwed!
I made pancakes the other day and made one that looked like a Nuke. Then I fed it to my 14 month old girl and posted pics on face book....I scared the hell outa people...I mean a nuke eating baby....damn!
diana did you witness his attempt to make one or the other out of this pastry? Do you know this kid and how his imagination works? I don't think so, so to call the kid a liar is bit extreme? NITWIT!!!!!!!!!!!
stoneaxe - don't tell them that! Next they'll be banning the letter L
First the issue is not, not since Sandyhook. These levels of zero tolerance have been going on since before then. I have spoken with some retired teachers and when they all initially began, claimed it was to put pressure to get zero tolerance rules changed. Now I think it really is the system being so mind bogglingly stupid.
I personally do not think this is a liberal attitude nor a conservative one. It is as I said above, purely a stupid one.
When is logic and reason going to be restored to the educational system that churns out these educators? Really? How moronic...and I mean that in every sense of the word. Who gave these imbeciles a certificate to teach? Another example of political correctness run rampant over logic and reason. Product of a non critical thinking society...the same one that produced abortion on demand and evolution as "science" instead of theory. Another fine mess you libs have gotten us into. Hope the students parents sue and win the right to terminate the teacher and principal for wasting the tax payers time and resources.
Next
just shows ...how retarded the teacher's are these days...
ban pastries!!!!!!!!!! quick before they kill someone.
Careful there! I gotta fully loaded Twinkie and I know how to use it!:)
This is akin to Senators like Hank Johnson who thought Guam would capsize if to many people were stationed at our naval station there. This intelectual giant also graduated with a degree in law and practiced for 25 years before going to the Senate. What does that say about political correctness and affirmitive action? This is one example of the people we allow to write and set the laws in this country and gave us things like the ACA "we have to pass it to find out what is inside" Pelosi. Truly, ignorance is bliss and many libs are blissful.
"Johnson graduated from Clark College (now Clark Atlanta University) in 1976, was a member of Omega Psi Phi Kappa Alpha Alpha Chapter, Decatur, Georgia, and Texas Southern University's Thurgood Marshall School of Law in Houston in 1979; he practiced law in Decatur, Georgia, for more than 25 years."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Johnson
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20001567-503544.html
Public education at its finest again.
Asinine knee jerk reaction!
ah yes, it never fails, on every comment thread for every topic, the moral outrage and finger-pointing from the righties. it is the conservatives in this country who try to postulate, dictate, regulate and legislate the behavior of others.
the school officials over-reacted and only self-righteous gasbags would feel the need to start with the political finger-pointing. get over yourselves
Ha! I caught you bluffing Jeepgal - as we all know, Hostess Twinkies are no more! Now, get back in line and put your hands up - I've got Twix bars, and I'm NOT afraid to make them into an 'L' shape and pretend that it is a pistol!
he's packing a POP TART...run...
Are you kidding me? PUH-lease. I guess children are not allowed to play cowboys and indians anymore either. How extreme and ridiculous.
OMG: I can't think of a more stupid thing a school could do. And how does this even make national news? What sort of idiots are running our schools?
I said that the other day. If two kids tried to play cowboys and indians with toy pistols in their own yard now, they would be arrested in a heartbeat. True, true stupidity going on. They are trying to give children an irrational fear of guns, they are grooming the children generation to not want guns. And they will keep the pressure on for years. This is way out of hand, and obumma is the one behind it.
They get to have pastry?? Our kids aren't allowed anything not deemed nutritious. No more Little Debbie's snack cakes, no Lunchables, no honey buns. This entire country has gone off the deep end.
Dav1bg...the same kind has our elected officials...paranoid politicians...
@Suds in Denver
Nope, not at school nor at the bus stop! No cops and robbers or soldiers either.
They shouldn't have suspended him....not without AT LEAST checking if the pop tart had a high capacity magazine in it or not.... :/
Once again my posts have been eliminated from this cite! I basically said that we are in dire need of a voucher system in this country so that many parents can send their kids to schools which more closely resemble their own value systems. If a liberal parent wants to send their kids to a school which is so hyper-sensitive about guns, so be it! But if other parents want to have different values be important then they should have that right! It is not the liberal left's right to dictate how kids are being raised and educated! How about one school district sending "fat letters" to parents advising them that their kids are overweight! This is not the responsibility of schools! The "pastry caper" and the multitude of crazy liberal crap just screams for more parental control of their own children's education!
If he had shaped it like a penis then ate it the teacher would have gave him a reward.
Well if schools are going to go that far to suspend a child.
They might as well take all pictures of weapons out of their books in US history and World history classes. And no more cutting up a frog in biology class.
They are watching and waiting for the little guy to crap out the rest of the evidence.
I hope they don't think it looks like a grenade.
Shame on you to suggest such a thing. We must all be politically correct and gender sensitive now days. You should have said "Cowpersons and Native Americans" so that nobody will feel offended. Consider this your final warning or we will see to it that you fail your next background check when you try to buy Pop Tarts!
Did he spit out any bullets?
Words cannot fully describe these people that see guns everywhere, kind of like finding the "pope in the pizza". Levity aside, these people carry some really onerous emotional baggage and should be restrained from any contact with children lest they project their warped delusions on them.
See what happens when you "fundamentally change America".
Hey,Plain Bob, better call in the swat team too!
Hey Blutow.... if he had done that, teacher might have eat it herself!!!!!!!!!!!LMAO
Of course it's a liberal movement.
The public schools today are liberal indoctrination centers, revising history and where you can't mark tests in red ink, so Suzie doesn't 'develop issues'.
Show me anyone but liberals who are calling for these gun bans.
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Where is the crime? It's not against the law to make a gun!
Crap. We're in trouble. Big trouble.
People! Stop. Take a deep breath. Relax. Think. This is nothing. Let the kid's parents deal with the school.
MSN! This is NOT NATIONAL NEWS! This is not even local news! How about some professional journalism?
If he bit it into the shape of a penis and said he was gay, they'd have given him a ribbon. This is insanity, and clearly wrong. Not much respect for a school board who would discipline a child for eating a poptart.
This teacher would be a great candidate for a sequester based reduction. This teachers worrying about thi scrap is why Johnny can't read.
This is how a government run education system works. The kid will probably be denied government run health care for making pastries of mass destruction. Next thing you know he'll make Dutch letters that spell NRA and be permanently expelled.
Someone beat me to it by posting it above, but I will repeat it...
The letter "L" will soon be eliminated from the alphabet because it resembles a gun when turned the right way.
More home schooling is on the way, which is going to cause a shortage in funds for schools because there won't be enough students filling up the seats. This will cause taxes to be raised which will cause parents to scream because they aren't making enough money and most of the parents are on welfare.
Cause and effect. The libs better rethink this insanity.
Welcome to the NEW norm!!!!!!!!!!
GOOD GRIEF!!!!
Zero tolerance for actual threats..........not pastry!
Next thing you know banana's will be seen as a threat...........I think we should check through all the teachers belongings they have at school and see what we find.......hair spray and a lighter, a sharp comb, letter opener, pocket knife, sharp keys.........I say everyday ALL persons entering the school should undergo a thorough search of body and articles.....OMG, the janitor likely has a veritable arsenal at his fingertips.
Please, please, someone protect our kids from the pastry............oh, that's right the kids aren't afraid of the pastry, only the teachers are.
Just tell Billy to wish it out into the corn field........God help us if one of these little terrorists brings a sharp carrot to school...
what the heck is this insanity teaching our kids?.........nothing..........and their respect for the adults in charge must certainly be wavering at this point..........I know mine is.
Bananas. Are you crazy? Don't say Bananas online.
Obama has already dispatched a drone to your house.
Get out while you can.
You Know By Today's Standards None Of Us Was Suppose To Ever Make It This Far In Life.
HIGH SCHOOL -- 1957 vs. 2012
Scenario 1:
Jack goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck's gun rack.
1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2012 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.
Scenario 2:
Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.
1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2012 - Police called and SWAT team arrives -- they arrest both Johnny and Mark. They are both charged with assault and both expelled even though Johnny started it
Scenario 3:
Jeffrey will not be still in class, he disrupts other students.
1957 - Jeffrey sent to the Principal's office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.
2012 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD. The family gets extra money (SSI) from the government because Jeffrey has a disability.
Scenario 4:
Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman.
2012 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is told by Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist.
Scenario 5:
Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school..
1957- Mark shares his aspirin with the Principal out on the smoking dock
2012- The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations. His car is then searched for drugs and weapons.
Scenario 6:
Pedro fails high school English.
1957- Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.
2012- Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against the state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English is then banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.
Scenario 7:
Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up a red ant bed.
1957 - Ants die.
2012 - ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The FBI investigates his parents -- and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated. Johnny's dad is placed on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.
Scenario 8:
Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2012 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.
This should hit every email inbox to show how stupid we have become!
Liberals OUT OF CONTROL!
"No, no, no. I said DART gun. Not fart gun." -- Gru, "Despicable Me"
Sure it was a gun? Could have been a pen1s, you know! Them hormones kicking in early.
So what now? Schools are going to post signs that say: "Do not chew your pastries/food in to inappropriate or threatening shapes."
DumbFarmBoy.
your moniker suits you well, you obviously flunked out of that Liberal school system that you despise.
No one gets SSI for a child with ADHD, if you paddle an ADHD child until they rear fell off it would have zero affect on their behavior.
I guess you missed the story of the child that died recently from one of those friendly fights.
Johnny brings his shotgun to school and someone noticed, too bad no one noticed the signs that would have prevented the recent school shootings.
In 1927 in a janitor blew up a school in Michigan killing 38. Too bad we didn't see that as a reason to be more cautious when it comes to our children.
If these teachers had anything to do with educating those in Washington D.C., it would certainly explain a lot.
It would also indicate our doom.
wonder what they will charge him with when it comes out after eaten, guess depends what it looks like
Farm Boy - I get what you're saying and mostly agree with your post. Sometimes the human race simply goes nuts when simple solutions might actually work better.
I'm sure the parents of the little boy who died after getting beat up are amazed by this latest pastry debacle.
LOL@ at the unenlightened neocons who think that gubmint-run schools are the only schools that over-react to stupid stuff. My oldest children went from K4-12 in private "Christian" school. Here's a short list of offences for which they got in trouble, up to and including suspension:
1) daughter 1 sent home for wearing an "inappropriate T shirt" it was plain white, showed no cleavage, but she has a full figure on top. nothing short of a birka would hide her figure
2) daughter 2, ordered into counseling because she died her hair black because surely she must have some sort of drug problem *rolls eyes*
3) daughter 1 suspended from middle school for being in a photograph that was passed around without her consent----a photo in which she was wearing Rockettes costume *gasp!*
4) me and both daughters being hauled in for "Christian counseling" because their father cheated on and subsequently left me. I was ordered to "submit" to him in order to save my marriage. I was subsequently excommunicated for not "submitting". I wonder if his 2nd wife was given the same advice when he cheated on and left her?
5) asked to attend a conference with the middle school principal over concerns that I wasn't conforming enough due to the fact that I drove a pickup truck instead of a minivan
there's more, shall I continue?
the idiots who suspended the boy for a poptart hardly have a lock in over-reacting and intolerance
@ Notfiveo
NotsoBrilliant, or Observant either, are you numb nuts?
This is an email joke. Did you notice the "This should hit every email inbox to show how stupid we have become!" at the bottom of the post. (the interesting thing is, I just got this a couple days ago)
I guess I should have made it more obvious, so you dope smokin', hippy, commy Liberals could figure it out. But since you people are always telling me how dumb I am, and how smart you are, I thought you could figure it out all on your own. Maybe I am as dumb as you say, giving you enough credit to figure it on your own.
And guess what else NotsoSmart, if you have seen any of my other posts, (click on my little Happiness Fairy avatar and it will take you to my home page which has several of my recent posts) you would know that I already knew about the Bath School tragedy. I have been posting this on several vines, since the Sandy Hook shooting. (Oh, and I found out about the Bath School incident, back in the 80's at a more conservative Public School, small town, literate School Board, who hired conservative, common sense type educators)
I have also been posting this: (reference Johny brings his shotgun to school)
So numb nuts, what is you answer to this? Bunch of candy ass Liberals scared of your own shadows, passing your fears off onto your children. And indoctrinating the rest of the children with the same fears, because you are too scared to fend for yourself, too insecure to rely on your own self, and must have the Government give you security you with "Safety Nets".
I no longer live on a farm, hence the "Dumb" part. The worst thing I ever did was get a Degree in Mechanical Engineering, move to the City and have to live in and amongst bigoted, myopic, inane morons like you. (see, I can name call too)
I also noticed in several of your posts that you never went back and replied to replies to your comments. Sounds like the work of a troll to me.
@ Hope. #1.67
(it was a joke) If you really got what I was saying you would have known that.
@ Bulldozer62
I would agree some of that sounds over reactive, but then again, did you volunteer to go to this school did you not? Same thing applies to most every other "Private" business, if wish to use their services, you need to go by their rules.
And given this a "Christian" school, I would have to agree with them on the dress code, as they strive to set a higher moral standard.
well Farm Boy, short of removing my daughter's breasts there isn't much one can do about how her clothes fit. The shirt in question was well within the parameters of the school's dress code.
And yes, I understand that private schools are businesses and can set their own rules. That concept is not lost on me. My point is in response to all the ignorant people who think that this is a "liberal" issue and that only public schools are guilty of over-reacting.
Does anyone have more information about this incident? Such as...
Was the pastry loaded?
Was a "high capacity" (aka factory standard) clip crafted for this pastry, perhaps out of a croissant?
Was the pastry crafted into an assault rifle (i.e. did the pastry have militaristic cosmetic features such as a wheat based pistol grip, cherry flavored folding stock or sprinkle-based laser sight) or a handgun (or something else)? WAS THIS A FULLY AUTOMATIC PASTRY!
Did the child pass a background check before crafting the gun out of the pastry?
Was the pastry obtained by another 7 year old under false pretenses as a straw purchase?
Was the pastry at any time pointed at a classmate or brandished in a threatening manner?
Will this confection related incident generate a criminal record for this child, prohibiting future purchase of real or baked goods based weapons?
Was counseling provided for other lunch-going classmates who witnessed the terrifying pastry chewing incident?
What new rules will the school enact to prevent foodstuffs from ever being used in a weapons related crime again? (I suggest Gerber baby food be served at all lunches until the end of high-school, there is not enough solidity to craft a firearm out of it).
And lastly, how much fear should I place on my shoulders, knowing that such incidents can occur at any time, and any place (that serves pastries).
and they inevitably fail when they succumb to idiotic, religious hypocrisy (as clearly shown by bulldozers experience)
@ NoLiberty: I am laughing so hard!!
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You are, of course, correct.
This isn't news. Not really.
But it is part of the agenda.
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NBC has been incessantly pounding everything and anything gun-related, in about a 300-1 ratio of 'bad gun' stories to 'good gun' stories, ever since the Newtown nutball massacre.
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People now need to start watching for deadly donuts.
The teacher watched a kid chew a "breakfast pastry" into what she thought was a gun? I don't know about the rest of you but most of the time my son had to explain his "artwork" to me. Even after his explanation I had trouble "seeing" what he made/drew. This kid explains it as a mountain but the teacher is paralyzed with fear because she knows it is a pastry gun. Let me guess - the jelly filling was the ammuntion and the 16 drops exceeded the maximum allowable quantity.
i think we should ban all assault poptarts, limit the number of strawberry seeds to 10, and require background checks to buy hunting poptarts and home defense poptarts.
these things are dangerous!!!
Is there any real difference between a zero policy or stupidity, anymore?
no, "zero tolerance" policies always lead to stupidity
Zero tolerance and is stupidity
Zero tolerance for public education. It's time we home school our children lest we want to see them brainwashed.
Educators? At the current rate, THAT is a freakin' stretch!!! More like, "Paranoid delusional's" have been INSANELY, HYPER sensitive...
And then the attorney calls them "hysterical"... What?!? They aren't "overly emotional". They went big time STUPID on us! This appears to be a common theme amongst anti-gunners...
Was there ever?
Oh the irony.
The reason that is it zero tolerance is because the illiterate school board doesn't trust the judgment or the teachers.
I used to be a teacher. This sort of horsesh*t is why I'm not a teacher any longer.
Hey Spiddas,
what do expect from our political re-education camps, er, I mean, er, our schools?
After reading this, it is starting to make sense, why we can't have a reasonable discussion with some people about politics and budgets on these vines. They have been brainwashed by the "Educators".
read with a bit of sarcasm, but not too much. ;-)
"zero-tolerance" absolves the powers-that-be from actually having to think and use common sense.
How ridiculous! The last time I checked they still make toy guns. They still make caps. I played cops and robbers when I was small. Are people really this stupid?
Sonny, the game from our childhood has evolved into Cops, Robbers, Lawyers for the defense who cry racism and it was the drugs, Prosecution lawyers who don't want to infer racism, Angry mobs to surround the courthouse, Newspaper hacks who publish a story before all the facts are known, and Judges running for another office with access to hot secretaries. Cops and robbers indeed! There's a lot more scope to it now.
And kids didn't have violent video games where you get rewarded for killing as many people as u can, and it's vERY realistic, or the amount of VERY realistic and dark bloody violence in most movies and tv dramas as well as the attention given to any school shooters or theater shooters out there ALL THE FRIGGIN' TIME on the Net and TV now. We NEVER had shootings at school or even heard of a shooting at a theater/school/mall til the 90's came around, lots of things changed then!
Who are these teachers who have zero common sense? Zero tolerance sure, but wait for an actual threat that you can refuse to tolerate!
On the other hand, MSN is eating stories like these up so that people can make comments like these. Please get back to responsible journalism.
Stop the insanity.
Sonny Huffman, the answer is yes, people are that stupid. Eric Holder said we need to vilify gun owners and make people hate them like we did to cigarette smokers. This is only a start.
The terrorist have won. We have lost our minds!
Someone please smack some sense into these moronic administrators.
How ABOUT ZERO TOLERANCE FOR STUPIDITY?
agreed those admin. people should be suspended. Hysterical overreaction to something as harmless as a pastry is an inappropriate response. Unless of course it was a Tommy scone,cannoli .45,or some other assault style pastry
The parents in this school district need to make sure to vote out the school board in the next elections. We have become so PC and stupid about everything in this country it makes me feel like the terroists have won. If my kid was suspended for something this idiotic, I would be raising holy hell.
Gary...I'm with you all the way. I have 2 10-year olds in 4th grade and I have never heard of anything even remotely this ridiculous at their school. However, it is not the "PC" thing. A lot of people interchangeably use the term "PC" and "liberal." I am as liberal as it gets, heck, I'm a socialist, and I find this utterly ridiculous. Don't blame my kind. We just want equal rights for everyone.
Hope this kid didn't take his pastry to school in a illegal plastic bag LOL
@BeanAtHome: The article doesn't say anything about the child being ADHD, nor does it say whether either the teacher or school administrator is conservative or liberal. Jump to conclusions much?
Maybe BeanAtHome actually read more that MSNBC's account of this "horrible action". Other accounts of the story mention his name, the school and that he was ADHD.
The teacher is a tard and should be fired.
a fine looking turd...that's absurd...the guy that hired the teacher should be fired...the school board that hired him ought to be spanked...the town that elected these board members...ought to rename their town...dumbassville...
fire the stupid ass teacher, today!
It's all about teachers, the most liberal people on the planet, terrorizing kids about guns so they will hate and fear them. We need to educate our kids about gun safety, not add to the paranoia. Socializing children is not the mission of the schools.
don't know where you live but most of my teachers were right wing conservatives.
tmr,
Sorry, no one believes you when you say such moronic things.
I was a teacher and believe me the vast majority are left wing Democrats. It's not even close.
i remember when most of the boys carried pocket knifes to school...we had a smoking area for kids...and sometimes smoked the good stuff...yeah the good old days...life was good...and nobody even thought a bout a pastry...unless we had been smoking the good stuff...
@TMR. No. No they werent. It is a well known fact that academia is ALMOST (emphasis added) universally liberal.
I grew up in Georgia and all of my teachers were right wing conservatives and still are in that area. The biology teacher refused to teach the chapter on evolution and chose to give a sermon instead on why it was wrong and why he wouldn't teach it. Just depends on where you live, but there are almost none in the middle where they should be. It is one extreme or the other. We had a shooting team and a rifle range in the basement of the cafeteria.
Just imagine if he had then commenced shooting sweet jelly filling. He would have been in a real jam then.
God forbid he should draw a gun. I mean, put pencil or crayon to paper to make an image of one.
Grammar, I cannot thank you enough for making me belly laugh in the middle of a crappy afternoon at work. I salute you.
Soooo, basically suspended for eating at school. I'm not artistically gifted either, and yes things end up a whole lot different than what i was trying when i draw or paint anything.
Ridiculous!!!!!........What is it that we are teaching our children?????????Someone in a leadership position needs to address this insanity! Are you listening Mr. President?????????????????By insane actions such as this, we have become worse than things we believe that we are protecting our childrfen from!
Yes, Gary, I would be there right along with you. For a 7 year old to have done this, and it was JUST A PASTRY, the teacher should be given suspension for stupidity!
Teachers don't give suspensions...that was an administrative decision.
Really? How stupid is this?!?!? Just correct him and move on; don't cause the child to miss two days of school over a stupid pastry. Like the other have said it looks like we've let the terrorist win.
I am interested in what you think the child should corrected for ? Eating a pop tart ? I mean even if he made a gun out of a doughnut it's not like it is going to fire chocolet chip bullets now is it ? As more then a few people said on here already it is a typical Lib over reaction. I myself would love to see a common sense law passed I mean really people! Some of you Lib types must have some sort of control if you want to fight the " good fight " this is NOT the way to do it Personal politics should have no place in our schools
This is starting to sound like those people who see the face of Jesus in moldy bread or bird droppings. Its just gone over the edge into paranoia.
Wow, how many more of these stories do we have to read? Two bullies beat a kid into a coma and then the kid dies due to his injuries they get a two day suspension. A kid eats a pastry into what the teacher perceives as a gun and this child gets the same treatment.
Thanks to overzealous parents, it's policies like these that exist. The ones that cry the loudest "won't somebody think of the children!" and squabble and cry like drowning rats that their kids need the ultimate bubble protections. You can certainly thank a lot of those parents for this supposed 'zero tolerance' policies that are in place in so many schools. Instead of educating about what is appropriate in terms of play and what isn't, they simply ban all forms of natural play that would be normal for kids. Boys play pretend heroes, girls play the same way. But now kids are being stifled in creativity because their dear doting parents are terrified of them being offended when in truth, the parents are more worried about being offended or upset than their kids are.
This is kind of our own fault really.
Aren't these teachers college educated???? Is there no common sense applied to anything anymore??
That's just it, kernol. Those idiots are educated beyond their intelligence.
Teachers don't give suspensions...it is an administrative decision...a very bad one.
The president of this country is not a leader, you need to be looking for someone else to fill that role. And yes, the teacher should be fired. For cying out loud, children with imaginations should be taught at home.
I would like us to react as strongly to all the wars were in and going to be in, that these kids will be carrying real guns in when they grow up.
Some people should not breed, or go into teaching.... Here is another worthless one.
I have a 7 year old. Baltimore - you will have to suspend every 5-10 year old boy. They just can't help themselves. My son makes EVERYTHING into a gun. This is without a doubt the stupidest thing I have EVER heard. And that is saying A LOT these days! You win the prize for absolute stupidity! And a school winning too! Go figure?
I have 3 kids and they play pretend war, see things on Cartoon Network (Clone Wars, that Dragon show etc) and they re-enact it all the time. Somehow I just don't think that's going to turn them into gun wielding maniacs by having an imagination.
This nothing new with the zero tolerance policies and it has been going on long before Newtown in some areas. My son was suspended for pointing his finger "gun" while playing space aliens or something like that with another boy on the playground when he was in kindergarten (5 years ago). There was nothing out of the ordinary, especially since the other child was also shooting his finger "gun" back - there was no anger or anything threatening. We even had to have a sit down meeting with the school to discuss the "event." The school couldn't believe that we didn't see it as such a big problem and we were perplexed by the insane, overreaction by the school. I mean what the heck is wrong with simply sitting down and explaining to the child that those types of things are not allowed? If they disobey the rules, once they actually know what the rules are that is, then let's talk about that further. Boy, oh boy - They would probably pooh their pants if they knew that we chase each other around the house shooting nerf disk guns at each other now . . . .
hats off to the stupidest administrators alive, everytime I think they cant get worse, they do. what did they think this kid would do? shoot somebody with a pop tart?? WTF has the world come to when you can get suspended for packing a loaded pastry, when I was in high school we would often have real firearms in our gunracks so we could get in a bird hunt as soon as school let out, it was pretty frequent that a teacher or two joined us no big deal, now they kick your butt out for chewing a pastry that "resembles" a gun, stupidest thing I've heard today
I agree. These administrators & teachers are becoming a bunch of fricking idiots. It's no wonder kids are so screwed up anymore. They aren't allowed to be kids. Parents hover too much, kids can't have an imagination anymore. Everyone is so damn paranoid.
Can you sue people for stupidity? Next the kids will be suspended if they fart in class...can anyone say terroristic gas attack...I knew you could...oh the humanities.
leave the gun - take the cannoli!
Apparently they are one in the same in the hands, or should I say mouth, of a crafty 8 year old. Is there any truth to the rumor that the little boy, upon spitting out what was once a harmless pastry and now apparently a danger to society uttered the words, "say hello to my little friend". Now that would be proof it was no mountain.
happiness is a warm gun...
Keep the guns, get rid of Obama, Hillary, Feinstein, Holder and ALL OF THE worthless liberal cronies who suck the life from this country.
Obama = FAIL!!!!
You have a good point. Guns can be useful. Obama and his crew are not.
People from these communities need to NAME NAMES. They need to find out the name of both teachers that reported these incidents to school officials, and the school officials who pushed through these disciplinary actions need their names put out there too. Their names need to be published throughout the internet so that we never forget what they did and so they can be punished. Not allowed housing, future teaching jobs and promotions, blocked from using local business services ect..
"Sorry you have been 86ed from our restaurant and will not be seated, please leave" ect..
As it stands now, they are getting away with their insanity.
NAME THE SCHOOL EMPLOYEES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE, AND SPREAD THE WORD!
Luckily we don't have those worthless hypocritical Republicans in office who are always screaming "cut spending"..... until it actually happens and their true colors are exposed.