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Subscribe to RSSA fierce, late-season storm has been pummeling the Midwest, making a snowy mess on sidewalks and highways and creating headaches for air travelers. NBC's John Yang reports.
A storm packing heavy, wet, travel-snarling snow threatened the Midwest on Tuesday with its hardest punch of the winter, as those along the east coast watched and waited for their turn to get socked.
Meteorologists predict Chicago may get a foot of snow by the time it’s all said and done, the most there since a blizzard in 2011. And flight delays continued well into Tuesday night and 1,180 flights were canceled into and out of O’Hare and Midway airports. Minneapolis-St. Paul experienced delays for much of the day, where more than 120 flights had been canceled, according to FlightAware.com.
The latest winter storm is slated to arrive in Boston on Wednesday and continue into Thursday, bringing beach erosion from Maryland to Cape Cod. The Weather Channel's Mike Seidel reports.
The city of Chicago and the Illinois Tollway, a tangle of highways around the city, on Tuesday deployed their full fleets of snowplows, 466 in all. Dozens of school systems closed for the day. Traffic inched along during the evening commute in downtown Chicago, but snow accumulations in the surrounding suburbs made travel more difficult.
More than 1,000 flights in Washington-area airports have already been cancelled for Wednesday in anticipation of the storm that is expected to bring anywhere from 5 to 8 inches.
The heaviest snow Tuesday occurred in a band stretching from Minnesota and Wisconsin down through the eastern nose of Iowa and across through Illinois, Indiana, Ohio and the central Appalachian Mountains.
Full coverage from weather.com
More than 9 inches of snow fell in Minneapolis, with totals nearing the double digits in parts of Wisconsin and Iowa and up to a foot around Chicago and in northern Indiana.
In Wisconsin, which was pummeled by snow early Tuesday, teams of divers plumbed the frigid waters of the Red Cedar River, looking for the driver of a semi that plunged off Interstate 94 before dawn, NBC affiliate KARE in Minneapolis said.
The storm promised heavy, wet snow, sometimes called “heart attack snow” because it is the most work to shovel.
“It is taxing their bodies and their hearts,” Dr. David Marmor, a cardiologist at NorthShore University HealthSystem in Evanston, Ill., told The Associated Press. “People are really testing their limits, and if they’re already at high risk, they are better off paying the kid across the street to do it.”
Chicago has reported about 20 inches of snow this winter and usually gets about 30, so the storm could erase the snow deficit for the season.
Jim Mone / AP
Workers remove snow from cars at an auto dealership Tuesday in Bloomington, Minn.
Workers remove snow from cars at an auto dealership Tuesday in Bloomington, Minn.
Predicting the storm’s path later this week is tricky, forecasters said. Some computer models had it heading straight east, while others forecast that it will curl to the northeast and sweep through New England.
Either way, the Washington metro area was expected to be hit hard and Congress has already taking precautions. A Democratic hearing on background checks for gun purchases, scheduled for Wednesday, was postponed because of the weather. A House vote on the continuing resolution to keep the government funded was moved to the early afternoon on Wednesday with members then able to leave for the week.
Because the snow was expected to be heavy and wet, the Washington area prepared for power outages. Baltimore Gas and Electric asked for 500 utility workers from out of state to help and encouraged people to prepare emergency kits.
Rain was expected to change to snow Wednesday in Baltimore and Philadelphia and Wednesday night in New York, threatening the Thursday morning commute there. The Weather Channel said New York could get 4 to 6 inches of snow.
Meteorologists said the storm could pack fierce wind gusts as well — up to 60 mph, tropical storm strength, along the New Jersey shore.
How much snow New England gets depends on which track the storm takes. If it tracks to the east, the region could get 1 to 6 inches of snow. If it bends to the north, the totals could be closer to a foot.
The driver of a semi was killed when his truck plunged into Wisconsin's Red Cedar River. Rescue crews are searching for the missing passenger. NBCNews.com's Dara Brown reports.
This story was originally published on Tue Mar 5, 2013 4:58 AM EST
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Guess I better get my shovel, salt and heart pills together LOL.
If you've got a heart condition you'd better NOT shovel this yourself,Turkey.Be safe ;)
The "Night Chicago Died"...
gm Creek Dog
That global warming's a bitch this winter, ain't it?
Chicago has been dying a slow agonizing death for some time now!
Bill, Get with the program...It is now called climate change...That way it doesn't look so bad when it snows in the winter
Translation:
It's probably the last storm of the year, hype it up and pray no one notices we're doing it again.
OOhhh PPleeaasse, quit with the hype...its just another fricken snowstorm!!
Hummmmmmmmmmm ... Did the hardware store owners make a "deal" with the "Weathermen" for this Blizzard to get rid of the overstock before spring .....? lol
Has been all year, Bill.
NOAA: 2012 was warmest year ever for US, second most 'extreme'
Which is why this moisture is so welcome in the Midwest.
The good news is that their drought should ease this Spring. The bad news is that drought in the South and Southwest will persist or intensify.
sounds like Rahm's getting ready to go to his pal in the WH with his hand out for some "emergency" funds. This is just total BS -- it's Chicago and winter is still on, why is MSNBC broadcasting this like it's a blizzard hitting FL in July?
If you interpreted this story as if a blizzard is hitting anywhere, I suggest you take a night course in reading comprehension.
GM Bill, C.D.
Here we go again.
Hello Chicago.
Hello Chicago.
Bye Chicago.
When i offer salutations i prefer it to be in my rear-view mirror.
I have lived in New England all my life, and have been through many snow storms and blizzards over that time, but I have NEVER heard the term "Heart attack snow".
Sounds like a new MSNism
Moonbeam, I've been saying that for years, but my connection has been with the grocery stores. They over buy and then panicking call the weather forecasters telling them they need a storm.
We'll take that heart-attack snow over here any day. We finally got something this past month, but for most of the winter, it's been bone dry. Don't know how they're going to have the duck race in Estes Park this spring with no water in the Big Thompson.
Best wishes and best of luck to those in the storms path!
janine
Very wet, very heavy snow. is what we here it the midwest call heart attack snow. Due to shoving it. I believe the mathematical formula is.....
Wet heavy snow +heavy exertion + breathing cold air = Vaperlock.
Its not so much the amounts as in N.E. as its the moisture content. much as the humidity content in the summer between the two places.
ahh Ok IA, thank you. I've never heard the term before, but I do agree with the idea of it.
I was very thankful for the blizzard we got this year, as it was the light fluffy stuff that is easy to move. That wet heavy stuff is tough.
Sled riding with the girls!!! Can't wait!!!
Snow is good.
Climate change means extreme weather on both sides of the spectrum you morons. Just read any fact about it. Just one. I know your primitive intellect sees the word "warm" and thinks "but it isn't". But really you are just an ignorant a$$hole
Too bad that blizzard didnt keep them damn blackbirds away. oh well theres always next year, only 6 months to kickoff. sept 9th .....
Football! Can't wait, IA.ScooterTramp! Go Pats!!!
Physicist-retired: Thanks for the links. I hadn't seen those.
The original headline refers to this storm as a "late" season blizzard, and there is nothing late about it. Today is only March 5th. Just a couple of decades ago it was quite common to get major snow storms in late March or even in early April at this latitude. There as a big St. Patrick's Day blizzard in Detroit in the early 1970s that produced 17 inches of snow, and there as another big snowstorm on the last day of March in 1989 in Cleveland too. I even remember a May 1st blizzard in Albany in 1982 where the State highway department had already taken the plow equipment off of the salt trucks, and was unable to deal with the 14 inches that fell that day too.
It is a known and well-studied fact that heavy deep wet snow increases the likelihood of heart attack mainly in older men. It would be better to take your time and take the necessary breaks, even if you have to be late or even miss work entirely. Don't over-exert yourself, as you are not as young as you used to be. I do the same thing myself and I'm only 56. Don't push yourself, it isn't worth dying over.
The only reason that anyone could say that this March snowstorm is because of climate change is in referring to it as a "late" season blizzard, as there is nothing late about it. It is still winter and likely it will still be winter for another few weeks. Call me back if you get another late-April blizzard, now that would be a lot rarer and still not without historical precedent too!
Disappointed and Ashamed: Sorry to disappoint you, but this is not extreme weather, despite the breathless hype of bored journalists. The midwest has received heavy snowfalls for as long as there has been weather measurement. They have occurred between early November and late April. A March 5 snowstorm is hardly news and is hardly extreme.
The problem with the climate change facade is you have cleverly changed the terminology so that ANY and ALL weather events neatly fall into your falsehood of climate change.
In Chicago, average annual snowfall is around 32 inches. Snowfall received in my lifetime has ranged from 11 inches to 89 inches. Those of us that understand science and statistics realize there is a range and a standard deviation to snowfalls ( and temperature and rainfall, etc.) each year. A few years back, we had four winters of snowfall in excess of 50 inches of snow. A person with a basic understanding of statistics would realize this is normal. Not the Climate Change Gang! This was proof of a larger devastating change. Last year, we only had 19 inches of snow. Again within statistical normalacy of the observed snowfall patterns. Suddenly it was climate change. No, it was just a dry year for both snow and rain. This year, we had very little snow in Dec and Jan. OMG it is Climate Change! February and March are running higher, and we are likely going to have a "normal" amount for the season.
Adam and Eve were talking about Climate Change because it was going on then and it is going on now. Climate is always changing.
Take a science class. Take a statistics class.
I didn't say a single thing about this snow storm, thank you for reading. Please refer to my last sentence in comment 1:20. Bam!
My pleasure, Monkey@Keyboard.
Gary, maybe YOU should take a science class and maybe even start to listen to those who have majored in science. The changes due to increased amounts of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere are easily demonstrated and duplicated in the lab.
Ignorance doesn't change the facts.
Where is all that global warming we have been promised?
I will do my part by eating more cabbage to make methane come out of my tail pipe...
Like WC Fields said - "I'd rather be here than in Philapelphia."
We've had a mild winter - which of course usually means a crappy wet summer. You take care out there.
Dhurrr, Dhurrr....see...Global warming is a made up myth because it is cold and snowing somewhere....stupid dumbocrats beleiving stupid Odumba paid for 'scientists' .....by the way, some scientist somewhere said that zygotes can feel pain, so we should outlaw all abortions, in the name of less government...Dhurrr, Dhurrr
Michigan: "The changes due to increased amounts of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere are easily demonstrated and duplicated in the lab."
Show me one such an experiment.
The people who operate greenhouses know very well that the amount of CO2 inside the greenhouse has no effect on the solar heat gain and thus temperature inside. Once you have a greenhouse effect established on a planetary scale, the further increase in greenhouse gas concentration has no effect. And Earth's main greenhouse gas is water vapor, not CO2.
That work is more than 150 years old, Max.
Hard to believe that those conspiring scientists could keep the hoax going that long, isn't it?
Geez. It's a dangerous storm. Yes, it is. The heart attack title is appropriate given the conditions, too. Is it possible to have just one story where no one's comment are rude, no names are called, and no one has to inform people of things that are political and not scientific that have been said to sound scientific?
Like this..."Oh, stay safe!" You know, as a couple of people did in the thread. It is possible to do. Stay safe and warm, everyone, and be careful if you have to shovel, drive, or walk down your steps.
Two examples of why the GOP is being referred to as the Stupid Party. Ignorance can be corrected but you can't fix stupid.
Michigan: "The changes due to increased amounts of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere are easily demonstrated and duplicated in the lab."
That work is more than 150 years old, Max.
You equate one with the other? That is not even extrapolation. These are 2 completely different things. Just because gasoline burns does not cause your gas tank to explode.
Disapointed and Ashamed,
Snow in the winter time is not an extreme event in the north and northeast.
When that 10" of snow hits Miami,,now THAT would be extreme.
They changed it from "Global warming" after the global warming conference in DC a few years ago that had to be postponed, because of a blizzard.
I wonder if there will be any survivors?
Global warming, climate change, or whatever you want to call it causes weather EXTREMES, not just 100 degree weather all year round. If people like Janine won't admit to the extreme weather we have been experiencing the past couple of years, they are either uninformed or in denial. The past couple of years we have seen record breaking weather evens across the board. More violent, intense thunderstorms, heavier snow storms, severe drought, etc.
The caption on the picture. Snow plow clears roads. That Mr. Genius reporter is a front loader
Or as those of us who are actually familiar with winter weather refer to it: "Snow". If it's heavy snow and you have health concerns you have several options: 1) Use a snow blower, 2) Shovel less at a time and take breaks, or 3) Pay the neighbor kid to do it. This is not complicated, people.
I personally don't care about either global warming or climate change. The egos posting on here are incredible. To think you could have an iota of impact on whatever is happening is hilarious. Which lends me to believe it's a scam. Maybe not so much a scam but an agenda other than what they'd have you believe. If individuals were truly alarmed by what they perceive as a catastrophe they would be working to mitigate the effects instead of trying to stop the unstoppable. Individuals that believe in "climate change" religiously, because their fervor is truly of the religious kind, also believe that man is like a blight on the Earth or like a parasite or some other such simile. They believe that they are the truly enlightened and are the only ones that can really appreciate the wonders of mother Earth. Others are just overpopulating vermin who the planet would be better off without. Unfortunately these types are just being used by those that see something as unprovable and enigmatic as climate change as a never ending crisis they can continue using for their own personal or ideological gain. Ayn Rand predicted the environmental movement would be taken over by leftist back in the 60s. She was very prophetic.
Don't ya just love the GW-Doomsday crowd. They'll preach & preach about how hot the world has gotten .... while they are shoveling 72" of snow off of their roof.
Down here in the South, where we've had Global Warming every year for the last .... well .... forever, we had 12" of Global Warming on Christmas day, most on that day in recorded history for this location. 2 weeks later, another 10" in several locales. And yet again in mid-February was 1/2" of solid ice. Luckily however, Global Warming had killed all of the trees back in the summer, so no limbs left to take down power-lines .... oh wait, the light company actually came through & did a massive trim in the summer. Sorry, my bad.
And a year ago, the winter of 2011-12, Global Warming kept the snow away, but it lowered temps to sub-zero F for around 2-3 weeks straight. That had NEVER happened in this specific locale. But I do know that Global Warming is a fact, because it showed up a couple summers back. Two months of 100-115 degree weather will make a believer out of anyone. Except for very limited "cherry-picked" locations & dates, those records still stand for this entire region.
Okay, maybe I exagerrated a wee bit. That was actually in 1980, 33 years ago, not just a "couple". Oh well, Spring is coming soon with the typical 95-105 weather we get every single year just behind it. So then the GW-Crowd can resume their We're-All-Gonna-Burn chant.
If a foot of snow hits the Northeast, it has to have a sensational name. Oh yah fugedaboudit it's the Heart Attack Snow! Run to your mommies!
I'm sure our elected officials left Washington on Monday! They simply can't agree on any issues anyway so they might as well STAY HOME!
Here in western Mass they are calling for 40 degrees and rain. No snow on the horizon here.
If someone looks like they're having a heart attack while shoveling, pour a bucket of water on them. That'll perk 'em right up!
Chicago - tomorrow's Detroit.
Physicist "Retired",
As you know; ever since this earth first wobbled and whirled, with an atmosphere, in an inelegant fashion around that fiery mass we call the sun, the "climate" has constantly changed. And you also know that, according to the rules of adaptation, we humans are products and victims of climate change from before the dawn of our known history. In other words, climate change is part of our lives no matter how you try to spin it.
Another thing, Physicist "Retired"; surely you recognize the fact human nature has not changed within our known history: You're the same basic animal as the inhabitants of Corinth 8500 years ago. From generation to generation humans exhibit ugly tendencies like lust, greed, revenge, avarice, gullibility, group think, etc. Just like the Mayans and the NAZIs, you(!!) believe the BIG LIE!
Here's your assignment, Physicist "Retired": Identify the NGOs and other vested interests pushing the climate change context, and report the amount of money they seek to redistribute. If you have half the intelligence you pretend, you'll appreciate that the global warming/climate change/climate disruption context has NOTHING to do with the environment, but everything to do with defining who prosper and who pays by force.
Frankly, I don't think you have the intelligence or the balls to accomplish this task. "Retired" has many different connotations.
Absolutely correct, David.
And how do we know that? Because scientists have studied our past climates for more than 100 years now - coming to an understanding of what forces drive those climate changes.
The same scientists are telling us that our climate is now changing very rapidly - due to human-caused CO2 emissions.
You can't have it both ways, David. The scientists can't be completely correct about our climate past, and (unanimously) completely wrong about our present. Science works, or it doesn't.
Rapid climate change is deadly, David. Species can't 'adapt' to rapid climate change. Every Great Extinction Event in the history of this planet involved rapid climate change.
The last Great Extinction (the PETM) happened 55 million years ago. During the PETM, global temperatures rose about 6C in 20,000 years. We're on track to see that kind of rise in the next 100 years, if we continue on a 'business as usual' track.
Even if humans could survive that incredibly rapid change (and of course, many wouldn't), what would they eat after another Great Extinction?
On a side note, I like the reference to Nazis. I've been called many, many things on these comment threads, by frustrated people who have 'opinions about the climate', but no actual scientific knowledge to back it up with.
But 'Nazi' is a new one. I'll add it to the list.
David, I am compelled to ask you: Why do you regard the notion that mankind has contributed to global warming as a big lie? Is it because someone told you? And how do you know that those people aren't lying themselves?
If people contribute to GW it is by turning forests into parking lots, highways, and rooftops - everybody knows that cities are much warmer than forest land or fields. That is empirical and observable. The slight CO2 increase as a force driving climate change is a joke.
The slight CO2 increase as a force driving climate change is a joke.
Oh really? A slight increase? I guess the joke is on you....
Check this out: http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/history.html
Click on the Historic tab - there, you will see a video clip - go ahead and view it - you will see th trend from 1979 going forward to 2012, then it rapidly goes backward in time back 800,000 years.
Oh yeah - a "slight" increase, indeed...
This weeks version of the "Biggest Storm" of the winter. It's a shame journalist and headline writers can't just give the facts, instead of sensationalizing to make themselves feel relavent. At any given time, there is always some inclement weather event occurring in the US......that's the way it has always been and that is the way it will always be. But now they tell us the weather is always getting worse and this week's storm is the "worst ever" or the "Most Severe in Decades. This headline reads "Biggest Widespread Storm".......define that please. Just because a has-been politician narrated a video about "Climate Change" does not mean we can control our climate......next thing you know he'll be telling us, if you pay this blankety-blank tax (of which he gets a cut), then we'll put a stop to climate change!......Oh wait, he already has. The climate has always been changing and the main factor involved in that is energy input from the sun.....and no matter what the sirens on the rocks say, that is the way it will always be. The best way to protect yourself form mother nature when she decides to throw some weather your way is to make smart choices, be prepared in the short term (safety kit in the car) and the long term (don't build in a flood plain ((and expect soemone to bale you out))....YOU are the best person to take care of YOU.....not some pathetic politician trolling for votes and/or wealth.
10" of snow equals about 1" of rain. They need much more than this to recharge their aquifers...
But the consistent low temps & snows are covering the AGW peoples excuses, across the Northern Hemisphere for the last 4+winters...
Snow is absorbed into the ground as it melts providing a better chance of actually getting into the aquifers as opposed to rain which washes away and runs into storm drains, streams, rivers,ponds and lakes.
Good morning. Agree LITPB, the trouble out here on the prairie the wind blows so hard the ditches fill first, might get a little where you want it, then the wind comes up and who the hell knows where it ends up! Creek, it IS morning isn't it?
GM Stone, CD and DB
Looks like Mother Nature is having her way again. However, other than the inconveniences brought on by any winter storm, the need for moisture outweighs the inconvenience because the US needs to be drought free to produce the crops in the "Breadbasket" of America!
Wonder if Scooter has enough libations stockpiled and is his Bus Collection big emough yet?
Lostinthe woods....Due to frozen ground, most snomelt runs off into lakes, rivers and streams or down the street sewers...we need spring rains to replentish ground water...
Sorry Coyotehunter but a snow blanket and snow melt is the most effective way of replenishing the aquifers,Frozen ground is still porous and is absorbed into the ground as the snow slowly melts, Rain washes away and washes all the trash and pollutants into the waterways with it.
Gee...I did that without making a childish comment about your username.
hitting here now, predicting 40s thursday and rain this weekend, so screw it. im done shoveling.
(GM SP Jack)
I hear you man. Good morning, I would sit and watch the crap until it was all melted. Have a good day. :)
Lostinthepinebarrens: Not always. We had some snow earlier this year, but because it was so cold, it just sublimated. The ground was as dry after as before. It was weird driving down a snowy lane in a cloud of dust.
Lostinhisownmind and I did make a childish coment on your user name. Have you ever heard of the spring floods on the missasippi ond other midwest rivers.
AG99, Yes not always but for the most part snow melting and draining into the ground is better than a downpour that simply washes away.
drf, yes I have heard of the spring floods along the mississippi, If the same amount of water hits the ground be it either in the form of snow or the form of rain the snow takes time to melt and the rain drops immediately, The rain immediately saturates the ground to the point that it can no longer absorb any and the rain then washes down, Snow on the other hand takes time to melt and therefore the amount of water flowing at one time is less allowing the ground time to absorb .
Extreme amounts of either rain or snow are going to cause problems like flooding when an area can not accomodate that extreme amount of water but since snow takes time to melt and rain causes an immediate problem there is still a benefit to it being snow as opposed to just rain.
Your childish comment reflects you maturity or lack of in your case.
Good morning Scoots&Jack and one and all. So dang windy here I had to fill my pockets with rocks just to weigh me down. My wife keeps telling me to go ice fishing. Is she trying to tell me something?
Only if the ice has not been thick enough to support your weight.
o.o;
Maybe she wants the house to herself
Hmmmm...thanks. My dad always said never trust anything that bleeds regularly and doesn't die.
Hey... LOST in the pines....
Melting snow does NOT soak into frozen ground. Hence... not even equal to rain. Still... it will help with lake levels and rivers this spring. As always... still gonna need healthy spring rains to break the drought.
BTW... the reporter said the NWS was calling for 5 inchs of snow for Minnesota when they actually put out a warning for 6 to 12 inchs. I just shoveled 8 inchs of heavy snow outside my door in North Central MN. The Twin Cities had 9 inchs with light snow still falling. Pretty much done now.
Again LOST...
You must be from the south... MOST flooding is caused by ice jams on the rivers and because the frozen ground can NOT absorb the snow melt. We are all to familiar with that in the Northland. Just ask the folks in Fargo-Moorhead.
Further for LOST and others...
MORE moisture from snow is lost through evaporation than from snow melt. I know most find it hard to believe that snow evaporates.... but that is what spawns more snow storms. It's a matter of relative humidity. Why do you think your house gets so dry in winter? Why do you think they sell humidifiers? For summer comfort?
FYI... I have a BS degree in Animal Science from the U of Minnesota with minors in Agronomy and Soil Science.
MSNBC, You called this a "Killer Storm" and have been saying a horrible storm will sweep the MIDWEST, and really, you're just as bad a Fox when it comes to getting your facts screwed and scaring folks. Your predictions are so far off that this is irresponsible reporting at best and neglent reporting and fear-mongering.
I live in Missouri and we got hit HARD, but it was HARDLY a KILLER STORM. Oh, but one person probably died, while, if the storm hadn't happened, more would have died in the normal commutes to work on the highways, much the same as your "Assault Weapons" stories and "facts and statistics" of them that are as skewed as hell. Theres NO SNOW in Missouri and NONE is forecasted for us, so rather than scare states and old folks and y oung folks for that matter, get your damn reporting right and BE SPECIFIC AND FACTUAL for once in your life. If you can't report responsibly, FIRE the freaking reporters who are writing this crap. Your stories do more HARM than they have EVER done good, and quite frankly, you really suck at true and real news reporting.
I live in Missouri too. Their writing is as vague as their definition of " the Mid-West."
media outlets do this for ratings and want you to go out and spend your money on things you "might" need.
This IS how retail businesses have been surviving lately, put the fear into the people because they are easier to control.
Bring back the REAL news journalists PLEASE. forget the fear mongering tactics, they are getting stale and the media outlets are losing credibility.
I already have those things I might need, Winter comes every year and I have had those things for as long as I can remember, I do replace them occasionally when a piece of equipment wears out or breaks or when a supply of rock salt or sand becomes diminished but I certainly do not wait until a storm is forcast before I run out to get them.
Be prepared is my motto!
check northern and NW Missouri.
Also? This isnt a "Late Storm". March is the snowiest month in the Midwest. You'd expect weather people to know facts like this.
If Obama had a son, he certainly would not be out shoveling snow.
IA.ScooterTramp
check northern and NW Missouri.
^^^^^^^^^^ I am. I live there. Sunny and beautiful today. Warm too, lol.
If you don't like MSNBC then don't bother reading the articles. It is really that simple...or is someone holding a gun to your head?
If you don't like what the poster said then don't bother reading the comments. It is really that simple...or is someone holding a gun to your head?
LostInThePineBarrens;
you took the words straight out my mouth :)
I see nothing wrong with the term "late winter storm". It refers to the part of the winter we are in - late winter, and doesn't imply that the storm missed its appointed time. If you consider a season to be divided into three parts, there would be early winter, mid winter, and late winter.
More kindness. Really, the point is true that if you really hate how this site covers news, then why are you here reading again? Sure, you can complain, but they aren't going to go fire people because someone said s/he didn't like them, so why really do you post if you hate it here so much?
And considering that Winter will be over in a couple of weeks this is a late Winter storm. Who cares if it's called that or a heart attack snow? Both are true...stay safe whatever the label.
Do neighbor kids still shovel snow?
Can't wait for summer
I'll wait and see how bad it is. They always say,this is going to be the worst.
think i will wait to shovel it too, untill i dunno say ....July....
Snowfall is just like a virgin bride on her wedding might....
"She doesn't know how long it's going to last....or how many inches she is going to get."
she also knows when a snowman is in her bed because she gets all wet......lol
Ask a hundred people to define what the "Mid-West is." It'd be hillarious.
If you live in New York, it's Ohio. If you live in St. Louis, it's Kansas. If you live in LA, it's Bakersfield.
If that's the Mid-West, What the heck is the Hartland.
Please don't you would be surprised what Miss Negative SallyAnn would write. LOL have a good day
GM Pretty Ladies, Mary, Carol,
I always thought i was in the midwest AND the heartland. Maybe they moved it. I know i will ask poster 10 hes "fed up there"
Maybe let the crap lay there. I remember the days of shoveling, it sucked. Come to SC this weekend in the mid 60's
GM Scooter
Has your "Bus Collection" grown any in this new snowstorm? heheheh. How far is it from Post 6 to your home?
Carol,
Love to
Jack,
nope on the wagon tell they clear out the others.
got to love it I am waiting on Miss Negative to show up I am ready for her lol
Carol, Scooter
I would have my parka on if it was the 60s here! Come on down as it is 10:32 am and already 85 F.
Also, they have lots of busses to add to the collection - big 'uns, little 'uns and most fit on the roads!
Carol
the forecast for there was sunshine today, no doubt causing mass hysteria and confusion.
Besides why go there?
Sorry Jack when i said never again i ment it. I dont have a passport nor intend to, in my buisness its just to easy to say "well just this ONE time and......"
lol
"Hat;amd" is a small town in Wisconsin. "Heartland" is right next to Mayberry in never-never land.
woke up to freezing weather in Florida kinda scared me but now its warming up, i might go to New York for winter this year just not now hoping everyone up north stays safe and warm
Awwww C'mon Scooter
Perhaps this will sweeten the deal - All of the buses down here are right hand drive! Bet you dont have one of those in your bus collection in Iowa!
Denver Bill-#6.1- LOL! I live in Bakersfield! Man do we need the snow in our mountains east of here. We still don't have enough water in Lake Isabella. We will probably be getting some moisture tomorrow, how much, I don't know.
What is the Midwest? It is relative to where you come from.
Here is a little giggle for you... I was in a bar in Lancaster, PA and chatting with this older couple from Philadelphia. I asked them if they were on vacation, since Lancaster is a tourist mecca. They replied "Oh yes... we go out WEST every summer". Further questioning revealed that these pioneers had never ventured as far WEST as Pittsburgh.
Tru dat. When I moved to LA from Idaho, people would insist I was from "back east", and those same folk always associated cold weather with "east-ness", as in, "I got family back east, so they're used to the cold." I'd be shaking my head, trying to figure out which part of "back east" their family was from- Buffalo, NY, Buffalo WY, or Orlando.
Another massive winter storm. Again millions of people, here and around the world, are being endangered by severe weather. These recent events dramatically demonstrate that the earth is profoundly threatened by a new weather phenomenon, "Global Cooling." If left unchecked the earth will turn into a frozen, lifeless ice cube like Mars. This calamity is being caused by the atmospheric changes brought on by all the rich left wingers. By overheating their large mansions, flying around in their personal jets and spewing toxic waste from their mouths they block the sunlight from reaching earth. Fortunately, there is a solution. By imposing a 100% tax on left wingers we can save civilization and the earth. Al Gore, we're gonna get our money back.
Well done, I believe the new term is Geo-enginering. AKA "Chem trialing". I sure do love me some blue less sky's. Remember when the sky was actually blue and not hazy white even on a cloudless day. And the clouds we see as so botched with aluminum oxides and different metals vaporized into gaseous PPM being delivered via large military style fogging flying planes. That is there foolish answer to preventing the destruction of our beautiful planet. Dustin CMC NJ
Hardly. Check out: http://www.planetseed.com/relatedarticle/temperature-change-history
The fact that we have these storms hardly disproves global warming. As the atmosphere warms, it is capable of holding more moisture, so these storms are hardly unexpected. Neither is the fact that overall, we have received less moisture during the winter. The last sentence in the article bears this out:
http://www.nwf.org/Wildlife/Threats-to-Wildlife/Global-Warming/Global-Warming-is-Causing-Extreme-Weather/Floods.aspx
http://e360.yale.edu/feature/forum_is_extreme_weather_linked_to_global_warming/2411/
http://climatecommunication.org/new/articles/extreme-weather/precipitation-floods-drought/
There has been no warming for 16 years! The CO2 level has continued to rise during that time! CO2 does not cause global warming. Never has, never will.
Well, that settles that.
Thanks skeptical, now I'll never give climate change another thought.
Thanks for sharing your expertise and thoughtful scientific analysis.
Simply not true, by any stretch of the imagination.
These recent events dramatically demonstrate that the earth is profoundly threatened by a new weather phenomenon, "Global Cooling."
Hate to break it to you but "Global Cooling" was the concern of the first Earth Day in 1970.
The atmosphere is warming up now because we are getting toward the end of winter...the days are getting longer and the sun is higher in the sky. The last winter or two has been mild, which is why this normal winter seems unusual or extreme to the low information poster.
And please back up your statement Physicist.
Check the temperature records! Even the UK met office has amended their predictions to show no further warming for an aditional 5 years.
That's why I provide links in my comments, Rex. Why don't you?
Are those invisible links because I just read your comments and did not see any links!
Disregard, I found the link, The bold print, However a youtube video is hardly proof of anything
Investigative reporting went out the window in this country years ago. Except when reporters want to tag along and Monday morning quarterback everything the military does. They can't get anything right and likely no longer edit half of it. The Next time we go into a country to fight insurgency warfare, we need to put a bounty on reporters and hunt them like coyotes. With tranquilizer guns
Another day in the 70's for so nv.
Shouldn't it be "AWAKENS" in the second paragraph, instead of "AWAKES"? Just sayin', Mr./Ms. Editor
So where do you live? those of us from post 6 are just dying to know.
In the meantime the rest of us know that spring does not officially arrive until March 20/21 and even after spring has arrived there is still a chance of getting some winter weather, It happens every year and will continue to happen.
The irony is that just a few weeks ago they were reporting that Chicago had not had any significant snowfall...alas maybe they spoke to soon.
We could blame it on Global Warming or we could even blame it on the Sequester or we could just call it normal weather because that is all it really is folks.
In the political world they would blame Bush.
Until we ALL change our ways, as in staying closer to home, conserving wherever we can, not over-heating our homes, not driving miles and miles to work, not wasting food, not thinking we need multiple big cars, not requiring (demanding) services that blatantly pollute, etc, etc, etc, we are ALL contributing to the problem rather than being part of the solution. In the absence of ALL of us doing what we should, Mother Nature will indeed have her way of solving the problem despite our best efforts to thwart her.
In the meantime, I'm going to hunker down, pour myself a drink, and enjoy the snow.
You just described Al Gore and Barrack Obama, Both who state that global warming is harming us yet both consume and waste huge amounts of energy for their personal benefit.
Silly me, I forgot...sacrifice and conservation only applies to us regular folks who actually work for a living!
Glad to see the weather this winter has been closer to normal precepitation. The mountains here in Colorado have been getting some pretty good falls, but the snowpack is still down because of some warm periods earlier on. Might see another good snow event start wrapping up in the Southwest by the weekend.
Anyone remember how low the Mississippi River is? Of course not that's yesterdays news The nation ought to be praying that the storm LOOMS for 40 days and 40 nights. And be grateful there is a storm LOOMING at all.
Ohhhhhhh and there is another bigger storm in the gulf of Alaska beginning to LOOM as well.
i can see it. that count?
still low, but the melt up north will help for a spell.
There should not be a drought this spring. The Mississippi will be up again. Down side is floods but hey, you can't have it all.
Guess Ole' Pacsawtawney Phil misses another forecast.
and hes still doing better then the local weatherman.
Well, well, Well. Snow...Come on spring. Today rain here. an this weekend in the mid 60's crazy weather. Good morning all.
hmmmm, we got a few inches at best, school 2 hrs late. got better than 12 last time it snowed & school was called off. hows that make this the biggest snow storm? news can't even report snow levels accurately anymore & we should beieve the rest of their garbage?.
Another one?! I thought the "biggest storm this winter" was a few weeks ago?
I think they are talking about the "land coverage" of this one and not necessarily the amount of snow it is going to dump. : )
To all who claim this isn't news - well it is news. Just not breaking news. News is all the info that people might want to read about. Interesting and informative.
At our Denver stations, every newscast seems to start with "Breaking News" or "Developing Story" or both.
Just one good editor could correct the mistakes of the people that write these articles.
known euphemistically as "heart attack snow"
It seems like it's a dysphemism not a euphemism.
Ok fess up ...how long have you been waiting ( and dying ) to use the word " dysphemism" Bob?
It seems to me that getting a normal amount of snow for the year would make it a normal winter - not a mild one.
Wasn't it just a couple of months ago that MSN was informing us that Chicago hadn't had at least 1 inch of snow for over 2 years? So, if they had this blizzard in 2011 that dumped 20 inches of snow, and those articles were in 2012, I'd say that they were full of it.
In Denver, for the year so far, we are ahead in precipitation by about a third of an inch, with temps a tad below average.
In other words nothing out of the normal.
It's amazing what people read into a story that reports a storm's size and the area that it is going to impact.
You'd think the story called for everyone to bunker down, head for the hills, bend over and kiss their butts goodbye.
Is reading comprehension dead ?
yep it was buried next to "reporting"